December 12, 2025 • 42 mins
In Hour 2 of the show today, the guys discuss Joe Burrow contemplating if he is having anymore fun in the NFL lately after his recent press release. Plus, the guys talk about Jim Knowles getting hired by Tennessee as their DC, Quinn's Wins, and more!
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search two Pros FSR and subscribe. Uh Joe Burrow, Bengals
quarterback and a Bengals quarterback for another Bengals team that's
not going to the playoffs. Was talking with the media
recently and just sort of addressing where he's at from
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his standpoint with the season being what it is and
sort of where he's at at this point in his career,
and had this to say.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I want to keep doing this. I have to have
fun doing it. You know, I've been through a lot,
and if it's not fun, then what am I doing
it for. I'm not sure.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
I'm not sure there is a singular moment or time.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
It's just a.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Reflection, reflection on a lot of things that I've done
and been.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Through in my career. I think I've been through.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
More than most and it's certainly not easy on the
brain or the body.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
So let's trying to if I'm doing it again.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Some people have taken that as he's not happy with
the Bengals organization. I took that as maybe he's not
happy with physically and mentally where he's at and it's
starting to take a toll on him.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
That's how I don't think one has to be false
for the other to be true.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It could be all of it. You know.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
A lot of things that guys go through once they
lead college and get to the pros is that they
have to figure out how to lose. And it's a
lot of times most of us, at like an elite level,
we don't know what losing really feels like. We know
what a loss feels like singular like here and there,
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you'll lose a game here and there, But losing, you know,
that's that's not that's not easy, and there's nothing fun
about it. And there's nothing profound about not being happy
in failure. So it's not a place where you want
to get used to being. It's not something that you
want to be okay with. So you know, and you
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throw in it, you know, his health with that, I
think it's a it's it's very reasonable to say what
it is that he's saying, like, it's not fun losing,
it's not fun fighting, you know, through injuries and trying
to get your health right. Is there's a there's a
lot of moving parts to a football season. I can
only imagine how much more that's amplifac you win you're
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a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, I mean I was gonna look at one thing
differently because Jonas has written off this Bengals team and
that's not technically true. True they do have a one
to three percent chance of making into the playoffs, and
they'd have to do that by winning the division. So all,
here's what needs to happen. Okay, for a seven and
ten Bengals team, maybe you would just want to say
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eight to nine. It just seems rather unlikely that they
would be able to win out the rest of the way.
The Steelers would need to go oh to four over
their final four games, the Ravens would need to go
one in three over their final four games, and then
the Bengals would have to go at a minimum three
in one. So there's your scenario. That's how they'd go
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about winning it out. But so it's not over completely.
I will say this when I hear those words by
Joe Burrow, and I understand he has been through some
tough times with injuries and the Bengals organization, you know,
and the frustration with whatever they're doing out around them
on the roster and all those things. You're twenty nine
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years old, you're playing under a contract where you got
two hundred and nineteen million dollars guaranteed. I just it
doesn't register when you say fun, like when it's not fun.
First off, as a competitor, and trust me, I was
drafting the Browns dealt with adversity from injuries to going
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to other teams where things didn't go well, wasn't playing
as well as what I'd like to all those things
injuries involved. I literally chose to go and play on
a team that I knew it was a chance that,
you know, maybe it wasn't gonna be as good, purely
because I wanted a chance to go play. It didn't
matter if I was gonna get my ass kicked or not.
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I wanted to play, like I just wanted to compete.
So it hurts me a bit to hear him say that,
because as much as you want to find joy in this,
this career, this job that is playing football professionally, it's
a flipping gift, is a blessing, like it is the
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greatest thing in the world, in my opinion, And it's
not always gonna be fun. In fact, more often than not,
it's it's not gonna feel fun. Fun is afterwards, Like
I'm sure fun for him was when you're hosting up
the AFC Championship trophy, going to the Super Bowl. But
that's after all the work, all the stress, all the
everything you've put into it goes into it, like all
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the adversity, and honestly, when you look back on it,
that's what made it fun. Like that was the whole
point of it, of it being fun, was the journey
to get there because it was so damn hard. Like
that's the thing that I just look back when I
hear him say that, I'm like, dude, let's just step
back and look, let's just look at this. You and
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the point zero zero one percent of people in the
world as far as what you're earning. So even if
you can't find it fun, let's just look at it
from that standpoint, you're making almost fifty million year beyond that.
Like again, like this is about a competitor, Like you
should be ticked off, you should be angry, you should
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be motivated. This thing's not over yet. I mean that's
how I look at it. So I hate to hear
these words because the people start to compare them to
Andrew Luck and oh, is he gonna retire early all stuff?
I don't think so, because I think he's a competitor.
And I've said this all along, and Pete Prisco tried
to rail against me for sale it and He defends
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the Bengals organization because a couple people in the organization
actually talk to him, you know, they're always nice to him.
So he's like, oh, I'm not gonna get the morel
to him. But the truth is like, and I know
Bengals fans gonna sell when I say this. It's not
just me, says Boomeracias. And one of your own has
said this. It's a cheaper organization and despite that, they've
still been able to put together good rosters at times.
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This year is an example of that. Unfortunately, with the
borough injury, it held back the chance of seeing what
they really could end up being. Now, I'm not giving
up hope. It's not over till it's over. You know,
they still have a chance if things go their way
and they you know, can can win out Like there's
still some things there for them. But I hate hearing
this from Burroughs from a sheer standpoint that it's not relatable.
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There's so many people out there who are struggling in
a variety of ways, and yeah, your adversities are tough
because it's your body, or it's you know, what people
are saying about you, or maybe frustrations with what the
organization's doing. But man, just let's just step back and
look at this from standpoint holidays coming up, families who
don't have much, you know, kids who aren't going to
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have anything, Like you're very blessed to be in the
position you are, like fun Like, I just that doesn't
register with me.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Man, Ain't that's heavy? That's heavy right there?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, I mean, you know, he also could have just
been having a moment like it could be you know,
long season frustrated. I think they asked him later on,
you know, is it you know, is there like personal
stuff going on?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
He goes, yeah, a little bit of everything, So like
he could have been having a moment.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And you know, upon further review, maybe realize is yeah,
not the most relatable thing to to be complaining about.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
His Like nonetheless, he was candid and he was transparent.
I mean, when when guys aren't transparent, we got a
problem with it, you know what I mean, Like when
guys speak their truth, like sometimes it doesn't hit well.
But nonetheless, he told us how he was feeling. And
and again at the at the beer animal of it all,
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like if you've been a winner, like stuff like that
will bother you. If you've been healthy, not being healthy
will bother you.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
That's what it was gonna because that's got to be
the like, the mental part of it, knowing that every
like every year something comes up with him seemingly like
there's you know, knee injuries that's got to be.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
Frustrating, going on back and healthy that's got to be frustrating,
and it just is, it is what it is. The
moment when you are you're one of the best in
the league, that's got to be frustrating and you just
can't stand there. Have you ever been great at something?
And no, you weren't as great as you once were. No,
And then you see things like kind of changing and
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not being exactly the way that it was when you were.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
As great as you were.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Like, I don't know how deeply he's looking into what
he's feeling and what that response you know, was based
off of. But you know, sometimes emotion can can get
the best of you if you're going through some trying moments,
some trying times, and if it's resonating from where he's working.
I mean, you know, I get it. I get the
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perspective too, I mean I get cues perspective. I mean
that's very there's very real realities out here, and the
reality of it is is wind loser draw, You're You're
going to be fine financially, you know, and stable financially speaking.
But I also look at it from the standpoint of
again being a competitor. When you have results that go
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your way for so long, you.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Get you get a little bit used to it.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Like it it like you get I don't want to
say you get comfortable with it, but it just becomes
a part of what.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
He's probably used to. Missing the playoffs. Now say it's
been a while.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Oh well, apparently, regardless of apparently, regardless of what he's
not having fun and happy about right now, the reality
of it is is Joe Burrow is not happy and
he's not having fun, at least as much fun as
he could be having. So I think that he has
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to figure out how to have fun again. I think
this Bengals team has to figure out how to have
more success and you know, maybe go from there.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
He needs to put a chip on his shoulder, bro,
you know, you need to put that that rock on
your shoulder and start wanting to fight back. I mean,
I know he's been through injuries and so, but a
lot of guys are dealing with injuries, you know, like
that that's the truth of the league. I mean you
already depreciating asset, you know, and as you go further
and further than the league, you're gonna be like a
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beat up truck. And I think that's one of the
things that like Tom Brady always took pride in was,
you know, outside of missing one season, dude, he was
He's an iron man playing Toy's forty five, the way
he took care of his body, the way he got
the ball out of his hand, and he had to
adapt his game and adjust just for the chance to
go play into his forties. And you look at all
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these guys, Philip Rivers coming back, Aaron Aaron Rodgers. I
mean these are guys who are over a decade older
than him, and they're they're fighting for the chance to
come back and play and compete. Do you think Aaron
Rodgers has had fun how things have gone and how
they went in New York? I mean again, like life
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isn't always going to be fun, Like that's not the purpose.
So I just look at it and say, like, man,
I don't call me, call someone who you know wishes
they're there, they were back there doing it.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Oh you could still be doing it.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
No, don't do that. We're not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I don't do that.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
You know.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Let's just have a conversation, a serious moment right now.
Why are you like throwing weird stuff out there?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
People?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
He's a weird dude.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
It is so sorry, sorry, let me let me back away.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Sorry, that's a fine, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Tap on another ten bucks and kiss my asso.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
You guys. There you go, God forbid, And I'm gonna
say here's what the fine is gonna be let me
type it in real quick. Jonas knocks on twelve twelve
for being a little bitch.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
God. Can we all get fines today? I wonder.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Did we institute a fine for you? Not today?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yesterday?
Speaker 7 (13:32):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
To get one though? Yeah, you're scared of var and
giving Jonas a participation trophies?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
It was a blatant one.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Do you think that he's is this sort of a
signal that he's not happy with the Bengals organization?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Do you think I don't want to go there? Because
I don't. I don't know that. I mean, they gave
him everything he was asking for this year and they've
given him the contract he wanted to, you know, so
I don't want to. I'm not going there and saying that.
You know, when I look at Joe burrow situation, it's
so different because he's from Ohio, right He was, you know,
from Athens, so that's where you don't play his high
school ball, and there's a lot of ties back there.
He went to Ohio State initially, so it's a lot
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different when Carson Palmer gets drafted there and you know,
he's a California kid, what you know, It just it
hits a lot different when you're in a place where
you grew up and you have so many relationships and
so many things going on for you and you always will,
right Like, he's not like those roots are playing an
arket to continue to grow even after his career is done.
(14:33):
So I think it's different for Burrow than it was
for Carson Palmer if you really compare those two situations.
But I just I hate hearing that from guys that.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
As a dad, now, I look at it and I
just I want to teach my kids to be competitors,
you know. I want them always to strive to try
to try to win because we live in a society
now that does not push that. Like I had a
long talk to my daughter last and I because she
started asking them about stuff when I was a kid,
and I said, see all those trophies that you have,
I said, when we were little, we had to earn them.
(15:09):
I said, we didn't just sign up for a league
and they gave us a trophy at the end of
the season because we participated. That was what our jersey was.
I was like, when you had a jersey or you
had a hat from your baseball team, I was like,
that was what you like was sacred to you because
you were on the team. You got to play, and
if you're lucky enough your team was good enough, you won,
you got a trophy, and that was like the accomplishment
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at the end. But now that all gets diminished and
taken away because it's all about, well, you participated, so
here's your trophy. And so yeah, like the idea of
was it fun, Yeah, it was fun? I participate great.
No man like funds winning, like being able to like
strive to achieve something that no one else did, Like
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like that's the fun part. I just I don't know, man,
it stinks to hear that from him, because I do
think he's a competitor. He's one of the most gifted
players the NFL has ever seen. And I understand he's
been through adversity, but my goodness, like, take some perspective now,
like this isn't you know playing football in the NFL
is not the hardest thing you have to do in life.
(16:16):
It's not. It's very it's true, and you want to
be the Jonas I'm gonna say this, and I know
this is like not entertaining, it's not whatever it is,
but like you know, you've buried you know, your parents. No, boy,
Like I'm just saying, like, that's that's a much more
difficult thing to have to go through than sit there saying, well, hey,
it's not fun. I'm feeling down about life right now.
And maybe he's got something personal like that going on.
(16:37):
I don't know, but I just I think about those
real situations in life and the real situations people are
dealing with, and it's it's hard to hear a players
say like, hey, it's not fun, like I would I
mean worded a different way. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah, no, and that I get the the perspective on
that because that's always like, no matter how bad things are,
like what's really bad, like however bad, what's really bad
in comparison to what what everybody else has got going on,
whatever whatever else is out there. And I would also say,
from a football standpoint, dude, talk to Joe Flacco, ask
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him his thoughts on this, Like like Joe Flacco knows
that the end is near, he knows that he's not,
you know, one of the like he was brought in
for emergency situations, and he probably looks at it and goes, hey, man,
enjoy this while you got it, because once it's gone,
that's a rap and you're never going to get that again.
And I'm sure you guys probably feel like nothing's ever
(17:31):
replaced that feeling of being a player in the league.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I kind of I have a different and we don't have.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
They might be different for you, but I will co
sign on that. I literally had a dream the other
night about being in a situation too minute drive going down,
and I was like just a whole thing in my
head and I woke up and I was like, damn,
that's depressing, Like you never You're never going to get
that opportunity to do that again and like and it's
(18:01):
it's funny because people tell you when you're young, Like
I remember people telling me when I was in high
school or junior high like, you know, you get your sleep,
get ready, all this stuff, and just hey man, you're
like you don't want to have any regrets. Like the
one thing I like look back on because it was
never about effort, was never about like working and all
that stuff. It's just like, I don't know, I probably
(18:21):
have spoke my mind a little bit more, like I
wouldn't have been I would have like probably talked a
little bit more, talked to that talk. I was just
always so brought up to be so conservative, and looking
back on it's like, no, I wish I would have
said more every once in a while when there was
when instead of like feeling like I needed to be
a leader by example, Like maybe I should have talked
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up a little bit more. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
I just live life with the idea of having impact
and having gravity and competing. I've never like football was
in my first sport. I love football, I love I
love competing. And when I did meeting football, you know,
I competed in other sports. I love those sports and
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enjoyed competing in those other sports. I just I've always
felt like things had to be for me. I felt
like my motivation was to be good enough where I mattered,
because if I mattered, then I could make a difference.
And that's like that might sound kind of corny, but
that really has always been my motivation. Like I saw
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how my mother and my father impacted you know, people
like when I was growing up. I felt like that
was something that was compelling for me, the way they
taught us, the way they they raised us, you know,
be a person of impact. And that's what I've always
that's what I've always enjoyed doing. So I feel like
a lot of times the reason why I was able
(19:48):
to play so well is because I wasn't so so
motivated by what it felt like to play the game,
or what what the fans, you know, the fame of
it all all didn't really it all mattered to me
to be able to look at a kid and say,
you can do it. You know, it all mattered to
me to be able to look at a parent and say,
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you know, just just hold on and keep trying, and
you know, things are possible.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Like that's all.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
And even like how I live my life now, I
live my life with the same exact approach, just with
more experience and more understanding of how it go about
doing it. So as just for me, I never really
was a football player. I played football, LaVar played football,
but I was never a football player.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
That's a third person find by the way.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
I mean, I was just just giving it the way
that you know how I feel about it. I just
I've never, like I know, people are like, I could
never I've never been able to replace what it felt
like on game day and stuff like that, and like
that feeling is that feeling?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Like I could argue the fact that.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
I felt more intense feelings even at the high school level,
then maybe I did points in time at.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
The college or pro level.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Really yeah, why not? I mean, I imagine I played
for a state title in high school. I never played
for any titles in college or or the pros. So
the moment that you know, when we were taking that
that bus ride tile Tuna, the pre game, I can
tell you I can remember in detail how my body felt,
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how cold it was, you know, what I wore. I
could tell you. I could tell you what my teammates
were wearing. I could tell you moments of that game
because of how intense and how amazing that feeling was.
But like you said earlier, Q, I can also tell
you how it felt when I looked at.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
My nana for the last time.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Yeah, I can tell you how I felt when I
thought that I was going to lose my dad when
I was in the seventh grade because he had a
heart attack. Like I could tell you things that I
could remember, like distinctly, the feelings that it gave me
in those moments, and all of it went towards like
to me, the same thing, like this is a moment
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to help me understand how I need to be in
order to make a difference. Like I've always just wanted
to make a difference. And that's like for me, that's
how I've always that's how I've always lived. So I
guess when I left the game, You know, I left
the game with a whole lot on the table. I
could have rehabbed and came back and kept playing. I
was done, Like I didn't look at it like, oh,
(22:27):
I got to stay in football for as long as
I possibly can. That I was done. You know, moving on,
you're going to change professions. Moving on, figure it out.
Would you say you live life with no regrets? I
have a few, da.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
I was gonna say, because I feel like from getting
to know you, I feel like you live life with
no regrets.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
I do.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I do many things that are presented in front of you,
and you don't turn down. You're like, I'm gonna do this.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
That's correct.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
But there are some things that I do regret where
I could have did better, or I could have you know,
made a better decision, stuff like that. But for the
most part, I do not live with regret.
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about a h a nice little higher in the world
of football that that's going to pay dividends down the
stretch for some team in the world of football.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
We'll get into that for you in.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
About twelve minutes from now, but right now, models, it
is time.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
What are you looking at? Ai Model? Yes?
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Bruh, Matt bars Man, Hey, look bro, I just saw
Ai Model.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I understand why. It's very close. I mean, would you
rather have a fake ten or a real three? You
know what I mean. I think he's I think he's
spinning some knowledge. Guys, you know what I mean? Oh,
all right, right now it's time for this.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
I'm winning.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
Listen, winning cures all illnesses, it really does.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
I'm going to win.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
It's Quinn's wins. That's right, come on, Yeah, yeah, we
were back at five hundred, folks. We did it five
and three last week. Got us back and had some winners.
Obviously that Mac Championship between Western Michigan and the under
that one. Duke won that one. We had Georgia as well.
(29:20):
Number of winners losers though, man, we had the under
of the Big Ten Championship. That was a good one.
But we're back to five hundred on the season as
we enter into Bowl season at fifty five fifty five
and three, so we don't have much to pick from
this week, although Jonas did boy me into having to
do additional picks that I wasn't really prepared for. But
here we go. Let's start off with one of the
(29:43):
greatest rivalries in all of sport, Army Navy, and this
one traditionally is one that you think it's gonna be
a more low risk scoring game. Not so fast over
under a set at thirty and a half, that's very low.
These are two teams that are very capable of scoring.
In particular Navy that's now kind of I want to
(30:03):
call it like an era air raid passing attack. But
their quarterback play Quarterbath averages about twelve throws per game.
That's four times more than Army. For you math majors
out there, But this is an offense that is a
little bit more balanced of what we're accustomed to saying
there at Navy. Army, on the other hand, kill helms
their quarterback. He's leading rush over a thousand yards this season.
(30:24):
It's pretty typical. But I think the over in this game,
I think both offenses should be able to score enough
points to hit the over. I don't see either team
being conservative in this one. In the rivalry game. And
also I'm a ride with Jeff Monkin an Army at
plus six and a half, I think they keep it
within the number. He's been known for being able to
(30:45):
pull off some of these upsets two over the years.
So go Army beat Navy straight up outright. But I'll
take plus six and a half in the over of
thirty eight and a half. And then let's get to
some of the games that Jonas had to bully me into.
We got the l A Bowl and so far stadium
down there in Boise State, taken on Washington. Boise was
(31:07):
the Mountain West champs taking on a U dub team
that was eight and four, you know, good season, maybe
some higher aspirations, led by their quarterback Demon Williams Junior.
He's a phenomenal player. Although a little concern with the
Michigan job opening a lot of ties back to Jedfish.
He had he was a quarterback coach off the coordinator
(31:29):
there back about ten years ago, and so maybe some
concerns about Fish going to take this job. After this
Bowl game, I wish I could tell you who the
hell's playing in it, but we never really know. Opt outs,
you know, and of course there's some players to get
to warm ups or get into the game then decide
to opt out of the exhibition game. So here's the play.
All right, you either don't play it, but if you
(31:50):
want to have fun, take the over fifty two and
a half. These teams can score some points, all right.
Boise a bit more balanced, but Washington they could throw
it all over the field. Jodah Coleman's a tremendous running back.
He get tote the rock as well. But that's assuming
that anyone actually plays in this game. But the over
of fifty two and a half is probably the best play.
And then finally the Cricket Bowl, South Carolina State versus
(32:14):
Prairie View.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I can't even find a line on this thing, so
we're just going to go. If you can bet it
on Calshie, which I did. I did note that on
Calshie South Carolina State it's a slight favorite according to
their odds, and it's really the passing attack of South
Carolina State taken on the more balanced rush attack of
Prairie View. William Atkins, the quarterback for South Carolina State,
(32:35):
good player, a good decision maker with the football. His
go to targets. Jordan Smith has almost one hundred and
fifty yards on the year receiving and on the flip
side of that, you've got previews. Quarterback Cameron Peters also
can throw the football around a little bit, but again
more they balance rushing attack and offense. I like South
(32:56):
Carolina State to win this thing. I do think it's
going to be close, but I'll take South Carolina State
on the money line or whatever wherever you want to
bet it. I will say, what's a little bit sad
about this is looking at Calshi's the volume for this game.
Only eight thousand dollars have been bet on this game
so far on Calshi.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Well, I think, I mean probably only about eight thousand
dollars in tickets that have been sold to this game too.
I mean, I can't imagine that.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Does It is being played at Mercedes Benz Dome in Atlanta,
so you've got that going for you as well, noon
Eastern time tomorrow to do the math on that. And
do you think it'll be any viewers in the West
Coast tuning into this one?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Oh god no no. By the way, I don't even
think it just sounds racist to me.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
I don't think there's going to be viewers on the
West Coast watching the LA Bowl either, the bucked up
LA Bowl.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Between well, mind you the LA Bowl is I believe
one of the bull is going away. I think this
might be its last year. It's a rap.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Wasn't this the Jimmy Kimmel Ball at one point too?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
It was also the Rob Gronkowski Bowl. I don't know that.
I think the Arizona one was the Barstool Bowl at
some point, but it's held a bunch of names. Yeah,
so I think the problem with the Jimmy Kimmel bowles
everyone had to wear a mask in that one.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Work that well.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Last bet for the weekend in Quinn's wins Heisman, Fernando
Mendoza is like minus two thousand.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
To win it.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
He's your winner. He had the most moments, He's leading
the number one team in the country statistically. Can make
an argument four two call a bias, but it's not.
Jeremiah Love's the best player in college football. We just
know how this award works. It goes to quarterbacks typically,
and in this case, it won't go to Jeremiah Love,
even though it probably should go to jeremih Love. But
(34:34):
my bet is that if you can go ahead and
box it in little trifecta box, it'll most likely finish.
In my opinion, Mendoza won, Diego Pavia two, Jeremiah Love
at three, Julian saying at four, I think that's how
it will probably finish. I am a Heisman voter. That
is not how I voted, but I'm not going to
reveal my ballot. But minus two thousand, it's a sure
(34:56):
thing Fernando Mendoza will win the Heisman.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I'm certain that uh.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
Love will have gotten one vote to have won the Heisman.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
I am certain of that. I think, uh.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I think there's three Heisman voters that work here at
Fox Sports Radio. I think Brady's won, Steve Hartman's another,
and I think Andy Furman's.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
A Heisman voter.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Oh nice, If I have that correct, Why aren't you
a Heisman voter?
Speaker 6 (35:23):
Bar, I don't get involved with that at your favor,
Why would I be a Heisman voter. I let let
guys like Q handle that. He won't take you.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I could just text you, though, var So I'll see
what you do with that information.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Let me see what you got here. Let's see what
you got here.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Oh, I'm not I don't know what to say either.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Let not touch that.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
Yeah, I digress. Maybe I was wrong now, one I
cannot say for sure.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
One thing of note here the Army Navy games is now,
so I did see I did see that.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Army Okay, I like that. I think it's gonna be
a three four point game. That's how I would see
these two teams between Army Navy. Y, Yes, tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
I love the Army Navy game. So much fun?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Can we go? I mean between Like, I know, obviously LeVar,
you're big with the vets. We've got a foundation works
with vets too. Like it would make sense if we
could do a Friday show and go.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I talked to the a d from from Army.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
Why I know, Monkin, I'll just reach out to Jeff.
He'd godly host us. But I'm also an Anapolitan. I'm
a former Anapolitan. So if it plays out one year
where we go and it's in Annapolis, we'd have a
really good time. I've never where did they play when
they play Army? Is that in Philly?
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah? That's in Philly?
Speaker 6 (36:45):
Yeah the link I mean, I think I think we
would be pretty good to go in Philly too.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Anthony Gargano and Lincoln Kennedy used to go every year.
They would go host a show from there.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
My guy aunt.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yeah, so I got Lincoln. That'd be a big link,
big link.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
We you shake that guy's hand. It's a humbling moment.
Lincoln Kennedy is massive. He is massive again, what a
good dude? Yeah he agree. Dude, man, h dude.
Speaker 7 (37:12):
I think we need to figure that out. We will,
We'll figure out. We'll figure out what to get into
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(38:33):
way to Tennessee. He's been hired as the defensive coordinator,
departing Penn State. He's got a three year deal that's
going to pay him an average of two point two
million dollars. So Tennessee gets himselves a DC from Penn State.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
So kind of interesting. I mean, obviously, I guess Matt
Campbell doesn't want to bring him or keep him there
at Penn State. Var is that how it kind of worked.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Uh, it probably wouldn't have been the best move to
bring them back. I don't want defensively, No, they weren't.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Dam No, they weren't. Damn they weren't. They just they weren't.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Okay, they don't think they were as bad as you
make them out to be.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
They were. They were as bad. They were as bad
as I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
They gave up twenty one points a game this season.
It's not that bad.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
They were bad.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
You wanted to say this for no reason.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
No, it's no, it's not a no reason. It's bad.
They weren't.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
I mean, if you look at the standard by standard
and by year, like this was a bad year for them,
I would say probably in the turnovers category.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
In terms of sack production, it was a bad year.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
It's also the first year with a defensive coordinator. Once
you say, like.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
We've been there before, though, we've had first year defensive
coordinators and they come in and they did pretty Uh.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
I'm never fifth in the Big ten in sacks. That's
not that bad.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
That's bad for us. That's bad. That's all I'll say.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Also, I mean, all right, I mean I'll put it
this way. Do you have a Micah Parsons are Abdual
card there right now?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Maybe that's the problem. It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Maybe last year you knew what you had in Abdul.
Speaker 6 (40:25):
Yeah, you got to figure out how to to establish
those things, you know, because I mean, you wouldn't have
said that going into last year, would Abdul? They didn't
know you would have they know that, No, you wouldn't
his his.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Buddy, I'm in this profession one hundred percent were saying.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
That buddy, Like we know who the scouts are, we
know who Bruce, we know more year Q like you
would not come into his his junior year saying this
is the most elite pass rusher that you'll see in and.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Without a doubt because this goes back to high school.
Like we'll go back to high school rankings and looking
at players and how they play. ETCA excited, like that's
not True's there's always players who are unproven that people
talk about.
Speaker 6 (41:14):
The dude had a subpar sophomore year. I mean, call
it what you want. I wouldn't have came into last
year like he's going to be the best in all
the college even if I'm basing off the high school
like I think that's off.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
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Speaker 2 (41:47):
Stunk this year.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
Damn what and a buddy? Hopefully we're better next year
on defense? How about that? No time to discuss
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search two Pros FSR and subscribe. Uh Joe Burrow, Bengals
quarterback and a Bengals quarterback for another Bengals team that's
not going to the playoffs. Was talking with the media
recently and just sort of addressing where he's at from
(01:16):
his standpoint with the season being what it is and
sort of where he's at at this point in his career,
and had this to say.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I want to keep doing this. I have to have
fun doing it. You know, I've been through a lot,
and if it's not fun, then what am I doing
it for. I'm not sure.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
I'm not sure there is a singular moment or time.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
It's just a.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Reflection, reflection on a lot of things that I've done
and been.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Through in my career. I think I've been through.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
More than most and it's certainly not easy on the
brain or the body.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
So let's trying to if I'm doing it again.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Some people have taken that as he's not happy with
the Bengals organization. I took that as maybe he's not
happy with physically and mentally where he's at and it's
starting to take a toll on him.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
That's how I don't think one has to be false
for the other to be true.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
It could be all of it. You know.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
A lot of things that guys go through once they
lead college and get to the pros is that they
have to figure out how to lose. And it's a
lot of times most of us, at like an elite level,
we don't know what losing really feels like. We know
what a loss feels like singular like here and there,
(02:34):
you'll lose a game here and there, But losing, you know,
that's that's not that's not easy, and there's nothing fun
about it. And there's nothing profound about not being happy
in failure. So it's not a place where you want
to get used to being. It's not something that you
want to be okay with. So you know, and you
(02:58):
throw in it, you know, his health with that, I
think it's a it's it's very reasonable to say what
it is that he's saying, like, it's not fun losing,
it's not fun fighting, you know, through injuries and trying
to get your health right. Is there's a there's a
lot of moving parts to a football season. I can
only imagine how much more that's amplifac you win you're
(03:20):
a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah, I mean I was gonna look at one thing
differently because Jonas has written off this Bengals team and
that's not technically true. True they do have a one
to three percent chance of making into the playoffs, and
they'd have to do that by winning the division. So all,
here's what needs to happen. Okay, for a seven and
ten Bengals team, maybe you would just want to say
(03:42):
eight to nine. It just seems rather unlikely that they
would be able to win out the rest of the way.
The Steelers would need to go oh to four over
their final four games, the Ravens would need to go
one in three over their final four games, and then
the Bengals would have to go at a minimum three
in one. So there's your scenario. That's how they'd go
(04:07):
about winning it out. But so it's not over completely.
I will say this when I hear those words by
Joe Burrow, and I understand he has been through some
tough times with injuries and the Bengals organization, you know,
and the frustration with whatever they're doing out around them
on the roster and all those things. You're twenty nine
(04:30):
years old, you're playing under a contract where you got
two hundred and nineteen million dollars guaranteed. I just it
doesn't register when you say fun, like when it's not fun.
First off, as a competitor, and trust me, I was
drafting the Browns dealt with adversity from injuries to going
(04:52):
to other teams where things didn't go well, wasn't playing
as well as what I'd like to all those things
injuries involved. I literally chose to go and play on
a team that I knew it was a chance that,
you know, maybe it wasn't gonna be as good, purely
because I wanted a chance to go play. It didn't
matter if I was gonna get my ass kicked or not.
(05:12):
I wanted to play, like I just wanted to compete.
So it hurts me a bit to hear him say that,
because as much as you want to find joy in this,
this career, this job that is playing football professionally, it's
a flipping gift, is a blessing, like it is the
(05:35):
greatest thing in the world, in my opinion, And it's
not always gonna be fun. In fact, more often than not,
it's it's not gonna feel fun. Fun is afterwards, Like
I'm sure fun for him was when you're hosting up
the AFC Championship trophy, going to the Super Bowl. But
that's after all the work, all the stress, all the
everything you've put into it goes into it, like all
(05:58):
the adversity, and honestly, when you look back on it,
that's what made it fun. Like that was the whole
point of it, of it being fun, was the journey
to get there because it was so damn hard. Like
that's the thing that I just look back when I
hear him say that, I'm like, dude, let's just step
back and look, let's just look at this. You and
(06:20):
the point zero zero one percent of people in the
world as far as what you're earning. So even if
you can't find it fun, let's just look at it
from that standpoint, you're making almost fifty million year beyond that.
Like again, like this is about a competitor, Like you
should be ticked off, you should be angry, you should
(06:40):
be motivated. This thing's not over yet. I mean that's
how I look at it. So I hate to hear
these words because the people start to compare them to
Andrew Luck and oh, is he gonna retire early all stuff?
I don't think so, because I think he's a competitor.
And I've said this all along, and Pete Prisco tried
to rail against me for sale it and He defends
(07:01):
the Bengals organization because a couple people in the organization
actually talk to him, you know, they're always nice to him.
So he's like, oh, I'm not gonna get the morel
to him. But the truth is like, and I know
Bengals fans gonna sell when I say this. It's not
just me, says Boomeracias. And one of your own has
said this. It's a cheaper organization and despite that, they've
still been able to put together good rosters at times.
(07:22):
This year is an example of that. Unfortunately, with the
borough injury, it held back the chance of seeing what
they really could end up being. Now, I'm not giving
up hope. It's not over till it's over. You know,
they still have a chance if things go their way
and they you know, can can win out Like there's
still some things there for them. But I hate hearing
this from Burroughs from a sheer standpoint that it's not relatable.
(07:45):
There's so many people out there who are struggling in
a variety of ways, and yeah, your adversities are tough
because it's your body, or it's you know, what people
are saying about you, or maybe frustrations with what the
organization's doing. But man, just let's just step back and
look at this from standpoint holidays coming up, families who
don't have much, you know, kids who aren't going to
(08:06):
have anything, Like you're very blessed to be in the
position you are, like fun Like, I just that doesn't
register with me.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Man, Ain't that's heavy? That's heavy right there?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, I mean, you know, he also could have just
been having a moment like it could be you know,
long season frustrated. I think they asked him later on,
you know, is it you know, is there like personal
stuff going on?
Speaker 2 (08:28):
He goes, yeah, a little bit of everything, So like
he could have been having a moment.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And you know, upon further review, maybe realize is yeah,
not the most relatable thing to to be complaining about.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
His Like nonetheless, he was candid and he was transparent.
I mean, when when guys aren't transparent, we got a
problem with it, you know what I mean, Like when
guys speak their truth, like sometimes it doesn't hit well.
But nonetheless, he told us how he was feeling. And
and again at the at the beer animal of it all,
(09:01):
like if you've been a winner, like stuff like that
will bother you. If you've been healthy, not being healthy
will bother you.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
That's what it was gonna because that's got to be
the like, the mental part of it, knowing that every
like every year something comes up with him seemingly like
there's you know, knee injuries that's got to be.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
Frustrating, going on back and healthy that's got to be frustrating,
and it just is, it is what it is. The
moment when you are you're one of the best in
the league, that's got to be frustrating and you just
can't stand there. Have you ever been great at something?
And no, you weren't as great as you once were. No,
And then you see things like kind of changing and
(09:45):
not being exactly the way that it was when you were.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
As great as you were.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
Like, I don't know how deeply he's looking into what
he's feeling and what that response you know, was based
off of. But you know, sometimes emotion can can get
the best of you if you're going through some trying moments,
some trying times, and if it's resonating from where he's working.
I mean, you know, I get it. I get the
(10:12):
perspective too, I mean I get cues perspective. I mean
that's very there's very real realities out here, and the
reality of it is is wind loser draw, You're You're
going to be fine financially, you know, and stable financially speaking.
But I also look at it from the standpoint of
again being a competitor. When you have results that go
(10:35):
your way for so long, you.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Get you get a little bit used to it.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Like it it like you get I don't want to
say you get comfortable with it, but it just becomes
a part of what.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
He's probably used to. Missing the playoffs. Now say it's
been a while.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Oh well, apparently, regardless of apparently, regardless of what he's
not having fun and happy about right now, the reality
of it is is Joe Burrow is not happy and
he's not having fun, at least as much fun as
he could be having. So I think that he has
(11:16):
to figure out how to have fun again. I think
this Bengals team has to figure out how to have
more success and you know, maybe go from there.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
He needs to put a chip on his shoulder, bro,
you know, you need to put that that rock on
your shoulder and start wanting to fight back. I mean,
I know he's been through injuries and so, but a
lot of guys are dealing with injuries, you know, like
that that's the truth of the league. I mean you
already depreciating asset, you know, and as you go further
and further than the league, you're gonna be like a
(11:46):
beat up truck. And I think that's one of the
things that like Tom Brady always took pride in was,
you know, outside of missing one season, dude, he was
He's an iron man playing Toy's forty five, the way
he took care of his body, the way he got
the ball out of his hand, and he had to
adapt his game and adjust just for the chance to
go play into his forties. And you look at all
(12:08):
these guys, Philip Rivers coming back, Aaron Aaron Rodgers. I
mean these are guys who are over a decade older
than him, and they're they're fighting for the chance to
come back and play and compete. Do you think Aaron
Rodgers has had fun how things have gone and how
they went in New York? I mean again, like life
(12:30):
isn't always going to be fun, Like that's not the purpose.
So I just look at it and say, like, man,
I don't call me, call someone who you know wishes
they're there, they were back there doing it.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Oh you could still be doing it.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
No, don't do that. We're not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I don't do that.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
You know.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Let's just have a conversation, a serious moment right now.
Why are you like throwing weird stuff out there?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
People?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
He's a weird dude.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
It is so sorry, sorry, let me let me back away.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Sorry, that's a fine, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Tap on another ten bucks and kiss my asso.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
You guys. There you go, God forbid, And I'm gonna
say here's what the fine is gonna be let me
type it in real quick. Jonas knocks on twelve twelve
for being a little bitch.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
God. Can we all get fines today? I wonder.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Did we institute a fine for you? Not today?
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yesterday?
Speaker 7 (13:32):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
To get one though? Yeah, you're scared of var and
giving Jonas a participation trophies?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
It was a blatant one.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Do you think that he's is this sort of a
signal that he's not happy with the Bengals organization?
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Do you think I don't want to go there? Because
I don't. I don't know that. I mean, they gave
him everything he was asking for this year and they've
given him the contract he wanted to, you know, so
I don't want to. I'm not going there and saying that.
You know, when I look at Joe burrow situation, it's
so different because he's from Ohio, right He was, you know,
from Athens, so that's where you don't play his high
school ball, and there's a lot of ties back there.
He went to Ohio State initially, so it's a lot
(14:13):
different when Carson Palmer gets drafted there and you know,
he's a California kid, what you know, It just it
hits a lot different when you're in a place where
you grew up and you have so many relationships and
so many things going on for you and you always will,
right Like, he's not like those roots are playing an
arket to continue to grow even after his career is done.
(14:33):
So I think it's different for Burrow than it was
for Carson Palmer if you really compare those two situations.
But I just I hate hearing that from guys that.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
As a dad, now, I look at it and I
just I want to teach my kids to be competitors,
you know. I want them always to strive to try
to try to win because we live in a society
now that does not push that. Like I had a
long talk to my daughter last and I because she
started asking them about stuff when I was a kid,
and I said, see all those trophies that you have,
I said, when we were little, we had to earn them.
(15:09):
I said, we didn't just sign up for a league
and they gave us a trophy at the end of
the season because we participated. That was what our jersey was.
I was like, when you had a jersey or you
had a hat from your baseball team, I was like,
that was what you like was sacred to you because
you were on the team. You got to play, and
if you're lucky enough your team was good enough, you won,
you got a trophy, and that was like the accomplishment
(15:30):
at the end. But now that all gets diminished and
taken away because it's all about, well, you participated, so
here's your trophy. And so yeah, like the idea of
was it fun, Yeah, it was fun? I participate great.
No man like funds winning, like being able to like
strive to achieve something that no one else did, Like
(15:54):
like that's the fun part. I just I don't know, man,
it stinks to hear that from him, because I do
think he's a competitor. He's one of the most gifted
players the NFL has ever seen. And I understand he's
been through adversity, but my goodness, like, take some perspective now,
like this isn't you know playing football in the NFL
is not the hardest thing you have to do in life.
(16:16):
It's not. It's very it's true, and you want to
be the Jonas I'm gonna say this, and I know
this is like not entertaining, it's not whatever it is,
but like you know, you've buried you know, your parents. No, boy,
Like I'm just saying, like, that's that's a much more
difficult thing to have to go through than sit there saying, well, hey,
it's not fun. I'm feeling down about life right now.
And maybe he's got something personal like that going on.
(16:37):
I don't know, but I just I think about those
real situations in life and the real situations people are
dealing with, and it's it's hard to hear a players
say like, hey, it's not fun, like I would I
mean worded a different way. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah, no, and that I get the the perspective on
that because that's always like, no matter how bad things are,
like what's really bad, like however bad, what's really bad
in comparison to what what everybody else has got going on,
whatever whatever else is out there. And I would also say,
from a football standpoint, dude, talk to Joe Flacco, ask
(17:10):
him his thoughts on this, Like like Joe Flacco knows
that the end is near, he knows that he's not,
you know, one of the like he was brought in
for emergency situations, and he probably looks at it and goes, hey, man,
enjoy this while you got it, because once it's gone,
that's a rap and you're never going to get that again.
And I'm sure you guys probably feel like nothing's ever
(17:31):
replaced that feeling of being a player in the league.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
I kind of I have a different and we don't have.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
They might be different for you, but I will co
sign on that. I literally had a dream the other
night about being in a situation too minute drive going down,
and I was like just a whole thing in my
head and I woke up and I was like, damn,
that's depressing, Like you never You're never going to get
that opportunity to do that again and like and it's
(18:01):
it's funny because people tell you when you're young, Like
I remember people telling me when I was in high
school or junior high like, you know, you get your sleep,
get ready, all this stuff, and just hey man, you're
like you don't want to have any regrets. Like the
one thing I like look back on because it was
never about effort, was never about like working and all
that stuff. It's just like, I don't know, I probably
(18:21):
have spoke my mind a little bit more, like I
wouldn't have been I would have like probably talked a
little bit more, talked to that talk. I was just
always so brought up to be so conservative, and looking
back on it's like, no, I wish I would have
said more every once in a while when there was
when instead of like feeling like I needed to be
a leader by example, Like maybe I should have talked
(18:42):
up a little bit more. I don't know.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
I just live life with the idea of having impact
and having gravity and competing. I've never like football was
in my first sport. I love football, I love I
love competing. And when I did meeting football, you know,
I competed in other sports. I love those sports and
(19:05):
enjoyed competing in those other sports. I just I've always
felt like things had to be for me. I felt
like my motivation was to be good enough where I mattered,
because if I mattered, then I could make a difference.
And that's like that might sound kind of corny, but
that really has always been my motivation. Like I saw
(19:28):
how my mother and my father impacted you know, people
like when I was growing up. I felt like that
was something that was compelling for me, the way they
taught us, the way they they raised us, you know,
be a person of impact. And that's what I've always
that's what I've always enjoyed doing. So I feel like
a lot of times the reason why I was able
(19:48):
to play so well is because I wasn't so so
motivated by what it felt like to play the game,
or what what the fans, you know, the fame of
it all all didn't really it all mattered to me
to be able to look at a kid and say,
you can do it. You know, it all mattered to
me to be able to look at a parent and say,
(20:09):
you know, just just hold on and keep trying, and
you know, things are possible.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Like that's all.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
And even like how I live my life now, I
live my life with the same exact approach, just with
more experience and more understanding of how it go about
doing it. So as just for me, I never really
was a football player. I played football, LaVar played football,
but I was never a football player.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
That's a third person find by the way.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
I mean, I was just just giving it the way
that you know how I feel about it. I just
I've never, like I know, people are like, I could
never I've never been able to replace what it felt
like on game day and stuff like that, and like
that feeling is that feeling?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Like I could argue the fact that.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
I felt more intense feelings even at the high school level,
then maybe I did points in time at.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
The college or pro level.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Really yeah, why not? I mean, I imagine I played
for a state title in high school. I never played
for any titles in college or or the pros. So
the moment that you know, when we were taking that
that bus ride tile Tuna, the pre game, I can
tell you I can remember in detail how my body felt,
(21:25):
how cold it was, you know, what I wore. I
could tell you. I could tell you what my teammates
were wearing. I could tell you moments of that game
because of how intense and how amazing that feeling was.
But like you said earlier, Q, I can also tell
you how it felt when I looked at.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
My nana for the last time.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Yeah, I can tell you how I felt when I
thought that I was going to lose my dad when
I was in the seventh grade because he had a
heart attack. Like I could tell you things that I
could remember, like distinctly, the feelings that it gave me
in those moments, and all of it went towards like
to me, the same thing, like this is a moment
(22:07):
to help me understand how I need to be in
order to make a difference. Like I've always just wanted
to make a difference. And that's like for me, that's
how I've always that's how I've always lived. So I
guess when I left the game, You know, I left
the game with a whole lot on the table. I
could have rehabbed and came back and kept playing. I
was done, Like I didn't look at it like, oh,
(22:27):
I got to stay in football for as long as
I possibly can. That I was done. You know, moving on,
you're going to change professions. Moving on, figure it out.
Would you say you live life with no regrets? I
have a few, da.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
I was gonna say, because I feel like from getting
to know you, I feel like you live life with
no regrets.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
I do.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I do many things that are presented in front of you,
and you don't turn down. You're like, I'm gonna do this.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
That's correct.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
But there are some things that I do regret where
I could have did better, or I could have you know,
made a better decision, stuff like that. But for the
most part, I do not live with regret.
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stretch for some team in the world of football.
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We'll get into that for you in.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
About twelve minutes from now, but right now, models, it
is time.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
What are you looking at? Ai Model? Yes?
Speaker 6 (28:28):
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Ai Model.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I understand why. It's very close. I mean, would you
rather have a fake ten or a real three? You
know what I mean. I think he's I think he's
spinning some knowledge. Guys, you know what I mean? Oh,
all right, right now it's time for this.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
I'm winning.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
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Speaker 4 (28:57):
I'm going to win.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
It's Quinn's wins. That's right, come on, Yeah, yeah, we
were back at five hundred, folks. We did it five
and three last week. Got us back and had some winners.
Obviously that Mac Championship between Western Michigan and the under
that one. Duke won that one. We had Georgia as well.
(29:20):
Number of winners losers though, man, we had the under
of the Big Ten Championship. That was a good one.
But we're back to five hundred on the season as
we enter into Bowl season at fifty five fifty five
and three, so we don't have much to pick from
this week, although Jonas did boy me into having to
do additional picks that I wasn't really prepared for. But
here we go. Let's start off with one of the
(29:43):
greatest rivalries in all of sport, Army Navy, and this
one traditionally is one that you think it's gonna be
a more low risk scoring game. Not so fast over
under a set at thirty and a half, that's very low.
These are two teams that are very capable of scoring.
In particular Navy that's now kind of I want to
(30:03):
call it like an era air raid passing attack. But
their quarterback play Quarterbath averages about twelve throws per game.
That's four times more than Army. For you math majors
out there, But this is an offense that is a
little bit more balanced of what we're accustomed to saying
there at Navy. Army, on the other hand, kill helms
their quarterback. He's leading rush over a thousand yards this season.
(30:24):
It's pretty typical. But I think the over in this game,
I think both offenses should be able to score enough
points to hit the over. I don't see either team
being conservative in this one. In the rivalry game. And
also I'm a ride with Jeff Monkin an Army at
plus six and a half, I think they keep it
within the number. He's been known for being able to
(30:45):
pull off some of these upsets two over the years.
So go Army beat Navy straight up outright. But I'll
take plus six and a half in the over of
thirty eight and a half. And then let's get to
some of the games that Jonas had to bully me into.
We got the l A Bowl and so far stadium
down there in Boise State, taken on Washington. Boise was
(31:07):
the Mountain West champs taking on a U dub team
that was eight and four, you know, good season, maybe
some higher aspirations, led by their quarterback Demon Williams Junior.
He's a phenomenal player. Although a little concern with the
Michigan job opening a lot of ties back to Jedfish.
He had he was a quarterback coach off the coordinator
(31:29):
there back about ten years ago, and so maybe some
concerns about Fish going to take this job. After this
Bowl game, I wish I could tell you who the
hell's playing in it, but we never really know. Opt outs,
you know, and of course there's some players to get
to warm ups or get into the game then decide
to opt out of the exhibition game. So here's the play.
All right, you either don't play it, but if you
(31:50):
want to have fun, take the over fifty two and
a half. These teams can score some points, all right.
Boise a bit more balanced, but Washington they could throw
it all over the field. Jodah Coleman's a tremendous running back.
He get tote the rock as well. But that's assuming
that anyone actually plays in this game. But the over
of fifty two and a half is probably the best play.
And then finally the Cricket Bowl, South Carolina State versus
(32:14):
Prairie View.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I can't even find a line on this thing, so
we're just going to go. If you can bet it
on Calshie, which I did. I did note that on
Calshie South Carolina State it's a slight favorite according to
their odds, and it's really the passing attack of South
Carolina State taken on the more balanced rush attack of
Prairie View. William Atkins, the quarterback for South Carolina State,
(32:35):
good player, a good decision maker with the football. His
go to targets. Jordan Smith has almost one hundred and
fifty yards on the year receiving and on the flip
side of that, you've got previews. Quarterback Cameron Peters also
can throw the football around a little bit, but again
more they balance rushing attack and offense. I like South
(32:56):
Carolina State to win this thing. I do think it's
going to be close, but I'll take South Carolina State
on the money line or whatever wherever you want to
bet it. I will say, what's a little bit sad
about this is looking at Calshi's the volume for this game.
Only eight thousand dollars have been bet on this game
so far on Calshi.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Well, I think, I mean probably only about eight thousand
dollars in tickets that have been sold to this game too.
I mean, I can't imagine that.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Does It is being played at Mercedes Benz Dome in Atlanta,
so you've got that going for you as well, noon
Eastern time tomorrow to do the math on that. And
do you think it'll be any viewers in the West
Coast tuning into this one?
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Oh god no no. By the way, I don't even
think it just sounds racist to me.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
I don't think there's going to be viewers on the
West Coast watching the LA Bowl either, the bucked up
LA Bowl.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Between well, mind you the LA Bowl is I believe
one of the bull is going away. I think this
might be its last year. It's a rap.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Wasn't this the Jimmy Kimmel Ball at one point too?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
It was also the Rob Gronkowski Bowl. I don't know that.
I think the Arizona one was the Barstool Bowl at
some point, but it's held a bunch of names. Yeah,
so I think the problem with the Jimmy Kimmel bowles
everyone had to wear a mask in that one.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Work that well.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Last bet for the weekend in Quinn's wins Heisman, Fernando
Mendoza is like minus two thousand.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
To win it.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
He's your winner. He had the most moments, He's leading
the number one team in the country statistically. Can make
an argument four two call a bias, but it's not.
Jeremiah Love's the best player in college football. We just
know how this award works. It goes to quarterbacks typically,
and in this case, it won't go to Jeremiah Love,
even though it probably should go to jeremih Love. But
(34:34):
my bet is that if you can go ahead and
box it in little trifecta box, it'll most likely finish.
In my opinion, Mendoza won, Diego Pavia two, Jeremiah Love
at three, Julian saying at four, I think that's how
it will probably finish. I am a Heisman voter. That
is not how I voted, but I'm not going to
reveal my ballot. But minus two thousand, it's a sure
(34:56):
thing Fernando Mendoza will win the Heisman.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I'm certain that uh.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
Love will have gotten one vote to have won the Heisman.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
I am certain of that. I think, uh.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I think there's three Heisman voters that work here at
Fox Sports Radio. I think Brady's won, Steve Hartman's another,
and I think Andy Furman's.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
A Heisman voter.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Oh nice, If I have that correct, Why aren't you
a Heisman voter?
Speaker 6 (35:23):
Bar, I don't get involved with that at your favor,
Why would I be a Heisman voter. I let let
guys like Q handle that. He won't take you.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
I could just text you, though, var So I'll see
what you do with that information.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Let me see what you got here. Let's see what
you got here.
Speaker 6 (35:41):
Oh, I'm not I don't know what to say either.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Let not touch that.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
Yeah, I digress. Maybe I was wrong now, one I
cannot say for sure.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
One thing of note here the Army Navy games is now,
so I did see I did see that.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Army Okay, I like that. I think it's gonna be
a three four point game. That's how I would see
these two teams between Army Navy. Y, Yes, tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
I love the Army Navy game. So much fun?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Can we go? I mean between Like, I know, obviously LeVar,
you're big with the vets. We've got a foundation works
with vets too. Like it would make sense if we
could do a Friday show and go.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I talked to the a d from from Army.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
Why I know, Monkin, I'll just reach out to Jeff.
He'd godly host us. But I'm also an Anapolitan. I'm
a former Anapolitan. So if it plays out one year
where we go and it's in Annapolis, we'd have a
really good time. I've never where did they play when
they play Army? Is that in Philly?
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah? That's in Philly?
Speaker 6 (36:45):
Yeah the link I mean, I think I think we
would be pretty good to go in Philly too.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Anthony Gargano and Lincoln Kennedy used to go every year.
They would go host a show from there.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
My guy aunt.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yeah, so I got Lincoln. That'd be a big link,
big link.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
We you shake that guy's hand. It's a humbling moment.
Lincoln Kennedy is massive. He is massive again, what a
good dude? Yeah he agree. Dude, man, h dude.
Speaker 7 (37:12):
I think we need to figure that out. We will,
We'll figure out. We'll figure out what to get into
the games. By the way, speaking of the games, you
guys heard about Trainer Games. You got to go check
it out, streaming on Prime Video starting January eighth.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
It's where ten athletes go head to head for a
chance to win an I Fit trainer contract worth up
to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Add this to
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Speaker 3 (37:36):
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Speaker 2 (37:46):
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(38:33):
way to Tennessee. He's been hired as the defensive coordinator,
departing Penn State. He's got a three year deal that's
going to pay him an average of two point two
million dollars. So Tennessee gets himselves a DC from Penn State.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
So kind of interesting. I mean, obviously, I guess Matt
Campbell doesn't want to bring him or keep him there
at Penn State. Var is that how it kind of worked.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
Uh, it probably wouldn't have been the best move to
bring them back. I don't want defensively, No, they weren't.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Dam No, they weren't. Damn they weren't. They just they weren't.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Okay, they don't think they were as bad as you
make them out to be.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
They were. They were as bad. They were as bad
as I'm thinking.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
They gave up twenty one points a game this season.
It's not that bad.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
They were bad.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
You wanted to say this for no reason.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
No, it's no, it's not a no reason. It's bad.
They weren't.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
I mean, if you look at the standard by standard
and by year, like this was a bad year for them,
I would say probably in the turnovers category.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
In terms of sack production, it was a bad year.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
It's also the first year with a defensive coordinator. Once
you say, like.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
We've been there before, though, we've had first year defensive
coordinators and they come in and they did pretty Uh.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
I'm never fifth in the Big ten in sacks. That's
not that bad.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
That's bad for us. That's bad. That's all I'll say.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Also, I mean, all right, I mean I'll put it
this way. Do you have a Micah Parsons are Abdual
card there right now?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Maybe that's the problem. It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Maybe last year you knew what you had in Abdul.
Speaker 6 (40:25):
Yeah, you got to figure out how to to establish
those things, you know, because I mean, you wouldn't have
said that going into last year, would Abdul? They didn't
know you would have they know that, No, you wouldn't
his his.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Buddy, I'm in this profession one hundred percent were saying.
Speaker 6 (40:43):
That buddy, Like we know who the scouts are, we
know who Bruce, we know more year Q like you
would not come into his his junior year saying this
is the most elite pass rusher that you'll see in and.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Without a doubt because this goes back to high school.
Like we'll go back to high school rankings and looking
at players and how they play. ETCA excited, like that's
not True's there's always players who are unproven that people
talk about.
Speaker 6 (41:14):
The dude had a subpar sophomore year. I mean, call
it what you want. I wouldn't have came into last
year like he's going to be the best in all
the college even if I'm basing off the high school
like I think that's off.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
But maybe that was just you know, he was playing
in the wrong system. And by the way, cleaning your
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Speaker 2 (41:47):
Stunk this year.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
Damn what and a buddy? Hopefully we're better next year
on defense? How about that? No time to discuss
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