December 11, 2024 • 39 mins
Bill Belichick plays hard ball with UNC and they should accept all his demands. The Bears organization is a circus on every level from the field to the top of the organization. Plus, hopeless teams and much more on 'The Good, The Bad & The Ugly.'
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So apparently something actually might really happen in the world
of football. I didn't think it would, didn't think it
was possible. Thought it was all posturing. Apparently not. We'll
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the way tire buying should be. So when the discussion
came out about Bill Belichick being interested in the North
Carolina job, I just thought that it was all posturing.
He's trying to let everybody know, like, hey, I'm here.
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This media thing is fun, But I got my goal
set my eyes on coaching again. If I got to
throw out a college football rumor to try and stir
up some interest in the NFL and rattle some cages,
and that's what I gotta do. It's like, Okay, it
makes sense. I guess we've seen it before and apparently not.
Apparently this is a real thing now. Pete Prisco yesterday
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alluded to the fact that part of the allure for
Belichick in North Carolina would be that he would set
up his son to take over after he was gone,
so he would be there for a short time. Obviously,
age would be a factor as well. Too, and that
he would set up his son to take over the
gig after he left daddy. So. Allie Connolly, who writes
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for The Guardian, had a report that came out over
the last couple of days confirming the fact. According to
sources that Belichick's negotiations with North Carolina include the guarantee
that Steven Belichick's son will be named the school's head
coach in waiting. UNC's open to the guarantee. Discussions are
not a bid to gain leverage for NFL offers, and
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Bill Belichick is open to the move. He updated that
and went on to say Belichick has agreed to become
the North Carolina coach. Belichick handed the school a four
hundred paid quote organizational bible with structure, payment plans, staffing choices, etc.
Decisions on whether to commit with UNC. He is expected
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to know their decision within the next twenty four hours.
Allie Connelly went on to say Belichick's bible would require
historic levels of investment from the school, include salary minimums
position by position, and willingness to hire two staffs. A
coaching staff run by Belichick, a recruitment staff run by
a sitting college GM who would require a buyout. Belichick
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has a college and pro version of his updated manual
and has shared it with other schools and NFL teams,
but he drafted a new one specific to North Carolina
that touched on every aspect of the program, and school
will need to sign off from the athletic director, the chancellor,
the trustees, and boosters. There's already been pushback from the
group of thirteen trustees with input from a wider faculty.
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The investment would overhaul the school's approach to football. Call
Belichick unsure if the school will meet his demands and
is unwilling to negotiate again. That from Allie Connolly, who's
been covering this for The Guardian. When it comes to
Belichick's real interest in the North Carolina gig, all right,
I thought it was just smoke that he wasn't actually
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interested in the job. I was under the impression that
Belichick looked at the opportunity to be the all time
wins leader in the NFL as a goal that he
would want, and you would assume if he takes this job,
it's probably a two year deal at least based on
his age. Before his son comes in. He establishes the
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program gets them rolling. I don't know where he's at
at that point in his life. I don't know where
he's at in that point in his desire to go
back to the NFL. But all of a sudden, you're
looking at, Okay, this is being pushed down the road,
and we're kicking the can down the road on him
trying to pursue the record. I guess this is a
real thing. I guess Belichick looks at the opportunity to
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build the college program and thinks, I'll bet I could
do that. I'll just go and reverse. You'll see coaches
go from college to the NFL. I've never coached at
the college level. I'll go back and I'll get that done.
My favorite part about this whole report, though, is the
quote unquote pushback from North Carolina. That's my favorite. You know,
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like North Carolina. You know, because when you think powerhouse,
blue blood football program, and you think like college football
playoff team, you think North Carolina. No, you probably don't
at all. In fact, when you think North Carolina, let's
just be honest here, you think basketball school. Like that's
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I'm sorry that it is what it is. So when
I look at the pushback from North Carolina saying no, no, no, no, no.
That guy is gonna come in here and tell us
how we're going to do things. No, no, not gonna happen,
not on our watch. That's like walking by a homeless
encampment and somebody pops out from under a tent. He's
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got two different pairs of shoes on and holes in
his dickies and he looks at you and goes, hey, dude,
here's a few bucks. Clean up your act. Excuse you?
Who who are you?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Like?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
You're dictating to me? What like North Carolina is telling
Belichick no, listen, nah, no, Hey, I know we were
six and six this past year, all right, I know
that we haven't sniffed a national title and you know forever,
but we're not going to take any sort of adjustment
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to what our plan is and what our structure is,
especially from you. And you get people to say, what
is Belichick knows ever coached at the college level. Belichick's
one of his best friends in the world is Nick
Saban You ever heard of that name? You know, the
greatest coach to ever do it at the college level,
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one of his best friends, Like you don't think Belichick
has had conversations with Saban about, Hey, what went wrong
for you? What didn't you like and if you could
do it all over again, if you had any interest,
how would you do it. The guy put together in
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this quote unquote bible and presented it to the school,
custom made for North Carolina. And yet you got people
there that are pushing Oh listen, no, no, there's pushback.
We're not sure about all this. No, if somebody like
that offers up an idea on how to put the
program back on the map, you listen to that somebody.
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It's like when the Falcons and other teams were pushing
back on Belichick. All you know, his input in the organization,
his input. Look at how things ended in New England. Okay,
look how things went like You don't think he would
want that guy's input on some of this stuff. So
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when you see North Carolina, well, we're pushing back. We're
not sure if this is the best idea for our program. Okay,
so just go six and six again. And apparently, by
the way, the dismissal of Mac Brown and how that
all went, apparently that didn't go all that smooth either.
But don't worry about it. Everybody, North Carolina's got it.
Figure it out. Bum pops, bum pops out from under
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a tent. Ay, man, what's with the outfit? Dude? You're
wearing trash bags and Halloween decorations in public and pushing
a card around with aluminum cans inside of it. Don't
worry about what I'm driving in my presentation in public. Okay,
you got your own issues. Like if he's got any
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interest and ideas on how to get better, listen to
him and Nick Saban, his good friend, was very upfront
about this whole thing when he left Alabama and told
everybody this is why I left. I didn't like this.
I didn't like that dude, Like, of course he's going
to have a discussion with him, he's talked with you.
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Don't think he's got strategy. You don't think he's got
like this whole thing, Like, hey man, I've been doing
my due diligence. I've been around it. It's not like
Belichick's one of those guys who shows up to his
media gig ten minutes before with no prep and walks
in and says, all right, so what are we talking about?
He puts the time in, like he researches this stuff.
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He studies this stuff, the fact that he's intro still
in the gig and the people like you know that
it's a potential gateway for his son, who can he's
trying to build a program. And look, we talked about
it last week with Albert Breer, and Breer said it best.
He's like, no, he really thinks that if there's any
time to get into the college game to where it
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looks as close to the NFL game that it's ever been,
now's the time. And so if he sees that as
a better opportunity for him for his son, and he
likes the structure, yeah, like here, here's here's what I'm
I'm putting together for you guys. This is what I'm
willing to accept if you'll accept me. And you got
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people there at North Carolina like, nah, hold on, no,
whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa
Hold on a second here, Nah no, No, It's like
it's like the falcons telling him, no, listen, we're not
we're not sure whether or not you'd be a good
fit for us. Okay, Oh you're not sure, all right, Okay,
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Well I'm not sure you're a good fit for a
twenty five point lead in the Super Bowl either, So okay,
but all right, you're not sure neat. It's like me
standing over my mechanic shoulder, going now, man put that there.
He looks back at me and goes, did you get
the hell out of here?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
What hell do you know?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
So look, I'm still skeptical. I think he ends up
back in the NFL. There's some odds that have come
out to where North Carolina is the favorite to be
where Belichick coach is next a slight favorite. And then
you've got, you know, the Jacksonville Jaguars that could be
in the mix, and I think that would make a
little bit more sense to me. I'm a little skeptical.
But the fact that he's presented this and is just
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waiting for North Carolina to accept the terms and conditions
of the deal ought to tell you this is no joke.
Guy's done his research, He's looked into it, and this
is a real possibility of happening, even though I dismissed
it from the from the get go. Jonas here Fox
Sports Radio, two Pros and a cup of Joe here
on FSR. By the way we do have a quick
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update here. Lead to lap Our executive producer brought this
to our attention in another edition of In case you
missed it Last Hour, So we did want to get
to the bottom of this because this is important stuff here. Hey, Lee,
Chris wrote in and said, you do know Joe Burrow
and his girl broke up in the offseason, right.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Yeah, but they've been on again, off again for their
entire relationship.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Now you're probably wondering why Joe Burrow's girlfriend has made
an appearance on the show here, And it's not because
we needed to fill a seat because Brady and Lebar
didn't show up. It's because apparently Joe Burrow's house got
broken into during Monday night football and the person who
called in the report just happens to be an SI
swimsuit model. Is that the correct the correct credential? Yeah,
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who you know is a quote unquote employee of Joe Burrow,
And so we were speculating, you know, if Joe Burrow's
got a girlfriend, that's an interesting way for her to
find out that he's, you know, mowing somebody else's lawn.
So I'm just, yeah, I'm just trying to get to
the bottom of this, So Lee, do we do we
know for sure whether or not a Joe Burrow did
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break up with her in the off season or what.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
It is a story that they did break up, that
it is correct. It's been rumored whether or not they
got back together. Uh, but officially they are broken up. Officially, well,
I don't know, hope officially anything, but uh he I
don't think he's officially dating anybody right now.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
By the way, if I called my wife my employee,
like she would wrap a mag light around the bridge
of my nose when I got home, like there wouldn't
even like, there's not even a discussion. I walk in,
I get cursed out in Spanish, and then I've got
to wear a flashlight across my face if that's the case.
So hey, listen, Joe Burrow, godspeed man. I hope you
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figure that out. And for you dead ends that are
out there breaking into athletes homes where they're playing games,
get a life, man. And if you're upset about what
happened in Fantasy football draft better or do you think
I'm not in the playoffs in my league this year?
All right? Jonas Knox, Two pros and a cup of
Joe here on Fox Sports Radio at the Jonas Knox
and X coming up next year. Though, right when he
thought somebody was safe, there's a team in the NFL
(14:21):
they got a lot of problems. But we just assumed, hey,
somebody's safe, everything's gonna be all right. Apparently that's not
the case. We've got more information on that that's coming
up right here on FSR.
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Coming up in a little over twenty minutes from now,
we're gonna have a special edition of our Midweek Awards
that'll yours here on FSR. So if you're listening to
the podcast, Loraina is playing the theme song to National
(15:07):
Lampoon's Christmas Vacation. And you know they don't tell you
about that, But first of all, I don't think the
movie age very well. To be honest with you, it's
not all that funny. But the only way that it
can be funny is if you watch the real version.
And I can't watch the real version because my son
(15:27):
is three and there are a lot more F bombs
and things like that in the movie that are not
suitable for a three year old. So if you've got
to watch the water down version with the no cursing
and all that that they show on like AMC or
whatever channel it is or TBS, it's just not as good.
So it already does Beiz there was an R rated version?
(15:50):
Well of what isn't the the actual version rated R?
I'm assuming it would be. There's an F bomb drop,
there's there's scenes in there. I'm assuming it would be
an R movie.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I'm seeing PG thirteen.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Okay, well, prude in sexual humor. I just know that
there's curse words and for language, and he he will
repeat anything like he is not like. So that's that's
a little bit of a problem. And you know, it's
been a little bit of a problem, and I'm running
out of people to blame it on because everything comes
from me.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
So although the original was rated Our Lampoon's Vacation.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Oh and they watered it down? What did they say
they must have deleted scenes.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Right, Yeah, it says, you know, a side view of
a woman's anatomy, implied sexual acts.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
How close to NC seventeen was Bad Sanna? Because I
feel like the fact that that's rated R and National
Lampoon's Christmas Vacation is rated R, there's two different degrees here,
like completely different.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Sorry, what was the question?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
So like, how like how close to being NC seventeen
was bad Sanna? Because that's on the brink Like if
the original version of of Christmas Vacation was rated R
and so is bad Sanna, something's wrong here. It's just
two different levels, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I don't know how close to the NC seventeen it was,
but it was definitely going for it. I was watching
Jingle all the Way the other night, and I was
one of my favorites. I've first seen it first time
I'd seen it in probably decades, and I was like, oh,
this is probably where exactly where Bad Santa came from.
Where he meets Uh. Jim Belushi is Uh is a
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Bad Santa basically with his little elf, and they go
to like this warehouse and it's a bunch of criminal
Santas and Elves.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Oh sweet, and never seen it.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Yeah it's called Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, yeah, I never seen it. And zinbad such a
good interesting well, chan, it's good.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
It's worth watching. I also watched the Santa Claus last
night with Tim Allen. That was actually really good.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, my kids, he's all caught up in the Christmas Chronicles.
Little Kurt Russell, little Kurt Russell fan brewing. So he's
from Thousand Oaks, went to my alma mater. So you
got to give Kurt Russell some love, good taste. It
is two pros and a cup of Joe here on
Fox Sports Radio. All right, So speaking of you know,
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speaking of Jim Belushi, who I believe is a Chicago native.
If you were wondering whether or not there was going
to be somebody getting out of this disaster of a
season in Chicago for the Bears unscathed, oh don't worry
about it. There's not. There's not because apparently now GM
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Ryan Poles may or may not be kind of sniffing
around at his exit as well too. So this courtesy
of Mark Silverman from ESPN in Chicago, who had this
to say about the potential moving on from the Bears GM.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
One of the main reasons that Ryan Pohls took the
Bear's job was because he liked the direct reporting nature
to the team owner. It was very appetizing to him
as a general manager to report directly to ownership.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
There was no buffer.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
If he had an issue, he can go right to George,
right to ownership, and that when Kevin Warren was hired,
he was frustrated with that from the start that he
never loved it. It was not a personal thing with Kevin,
but it was something that he didn't like that he
went from reporting to the owner to now having to
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report to a team president who reports to the owner.
There was a go between, and he was very vocal
about that to people he trusted inside the building that
maybe he never would have taken the job to begin with.
I wouldn't be shocked again if by the end of
the year there's a mutual parting of the.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
So that's Mark Silverman of ESPN in Chicago talking about
Ryan Poles the GM there. So I mean, at least
everybody's getting it this year, you know, like there's like
that's the one thing you want to feel like you're
all part of the mess or all part of the circus.
You know, you've got to have people that are, like,
you know, walking around with the animals hoping they don't
get attacked. You've got to have people that are juggling
bowling pins. You've got to have a clown. You've got
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to you gotta have all that stuff at the circus
and you've got to fill every spot. And the Bears
have done that this year, so everybody's getting it. Head
coach is gone, offensive coordinator gone. You've got players saying, nah, man,
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we needed to move on from the coach. And then
what do they do when they finally move on from
the coach and they've got the interim offensive coordinator is
their coach. They go out to Santa Clara to play
the forty nine ers and get pistol whipped from start
to finish. That game wasn't close, and you start looking
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around and you go, so how bad is this gonna get?
And now the guy who everybody was lauding and everybody
was celebrating about the move he made. You remember how
everybody was laughing like people were, I mean, they couldn't
get enough. They were laughing at the deal that got done,
talking about oh my God, look at what the Look
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at what the Bears got in return. Look at what
the Bears got in return in that big blockbuster trade
for the Carolina Panthers. Mad the Bears fleeced the Carolina Panthers.
Everybody took shots at the Panthers. Oh by god, they're
a laughing stock, what a joke, what a terrible franchise
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and a terrible organization. They give up all those picks,
they traded away Dj Moore only to draft Bryce Young,
and he's not working out. He's gonna be a bust.
And then the Bears are gonna end up with all
this draft capital. They've got first round pick and second
round picks, and then it's gonna work out in their
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favor and they're gonna draft Caleb Williams one overall. Hahaha. Man,
the Carolina Panthers are a diaper fire. And then you
look at the standings and the Bears are one game better.
And I got news for you. They're not winning another
game this year. They were four and two going into
the bye week with a huge win against the Jacksonville
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Jaguars in London. They've lost every game since. They've had
catastrophic disasters at the end of games they've no shown
others like what they did in San Francisco and Santa
Clara with the Niners, and then their remaining schedule as
such at the Vikings on Monday night football home against
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the Lions, against the Seahawks, and then at the Packers. Dude,
they're gonna rattle off eleven straight losses after the bye
week to end the season. I don't want to hear
anybody make another comment remark smirk about the trade and
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the deal with the Carolina Panthers. Ever again, where the
guy who was being lauded as man oh, he fleece
the Panthers organization. He took their best wide receiver and
he got the Caleb Williams with the number one pick.
And I don't want to hear a damn thing from
anybody because there's a real chance that at the end
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of this season, you know, these season in which we
were really going to get to see the goods, you know,
we were really gonna get to see what all that
looked like and how bad out of a loss the
Panthers took in it. If they're sitting there tied with
the Bears at four wins at the end of this year.
(24:10):
You should shut your ass if you're being critical of
the Carolina Panthers in that trade. It's ow.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
You could just shut your big y.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
It's over. Like now the GM may one out, Okay.
And if you get a new GM and you get
a new coach, what does that mean for the quarterback?
And look, Caleb Williams has shown signs over the past
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several weeks that he's got the goods. There's some throws,
there's some decision like he's not like he's gone, you know,
two hundred something consecutive passes without throwing an interception and
all that. All that's good and well, but they're a
terrible football team. And if you were to tell people
before the year after everybody was talking about, oh my god,
this team, dude, they're gonna finish four and thir team. Yeah, okay,
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if you told somebody at the bye week after they
clowned the Jaguars in London, you know that was their
last one of the season, right, Okay, did you see
with that offense? Okay, Like that's the reality of the situation.
Like you've got leaks everywhere in the organization everywhere, Like
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Roman Dunesay's dad cannot help himself, goes to social media
on almost a daily occurrence and takes a shot at
the offense in the organization, can't help himself. There's been
some other reporting out there that maybe Tyson Bagent, the
backup quarterback, you know, his dad, who's the arm wrestler
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who was featured on Hard Knocks, that maybe his dad
was out there kind of throwing out some of the
reporting that that was a you know, there's been some
veteran players that have gone to gone to coaches and said, hey,
we need to bench Caleb and put in Tyson Bagent. Okay,
well that's normal, that's normal behavior. Like all the other
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stuff that came out the locker room leaks, Jalen Johnson
ripping into Matt Eberflus after the game against Detroit, like
all that stuff that came out. First of all, why
is that coming out? Why is it? And it's not
like the Bears are denying it. Bears players are talking
about oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is like the
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Eagle stuff. You got Brandon Graham talking about the dysfunction
between Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown, except the only difference
is Philly's actually good. Like I made this point if
there were like, because there was a discussion about ay
Man Kyle Shannan, could the Bears trade for Kyle Shannan.
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You know, it was thrown out there, Mike Florio threw
it out there, and then you know, you push back
on Flooryo's report. He gets you know, sensitive about or whatever.
So you know, part for the course, but there's like, oh, man,
like that would be a brilliant move for the Bears.
Of course it would, of course, But like there's one
key component to that whole discussion. It's the Bears. Like
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if you send them to the supermarket to get eggs,
they would come back with a blunder. That's what they do.
That's the organization. But like that's that's what it is.
And it's not just a well Eberflus is gone. Everything's
no stop stop. They have been milking the eighty five
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Bears for decades. It's been going on for decades. Like
since then you had your early two thousand's to like
around two thousand and eight or nine that you could
point to and listen. They had some great players on
those teams. Brian Urlacker and Lance Briggs and Old and
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Crudes and I mean, great players, but dude, like they
haven't won a playoff game since like twenty eleven. They've
won six playoff games since the eighty five Bears. Like
what else do you need to see? And I just
I do love the priorities though, you know, like they've
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got leaks everywhere, Like everybody's talking to everybody. Like now,
all of a sudden, Ryan Poles might win out at
the end of the season, and then you've got all
the other stuff that's happened during the course of the year.
My favorite part about all this, though, is the fact
that the Bears wanted to make sure when they were
featured on Hard Knocks that there was no cursing. All right,
(28:43):
we got to have our priorities straight here. No cursing
on Hard Knocks. What about the fact that everybody's talking
to everybody and leaks are coming out and you've got
you know, teammates dads that are complaining of Yeah, I mean,
who cares about all that? We just don't want to curse, Okay,
Like speaking of movie ratings, no problem, Hey Bears, your
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PG for the HBO cameras. But when it comes to
the actual season, like it's nc anybody not suitable for
anybody at any age to have to watch this garbage
that they've rolled out and they pointed fingers and it's
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this and listen, man, it takes a lot for you
to make the Cubs organization look like they got it
together in Chicago, and somehow the Chicago Bears have done it.
So bravo. Congratulations. Now everybody is getting it there. Everybody's
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got some sort of stink on him. Now it's Ryan
Poles who may want out at the end of the
season because he didn't know that the structure was going
to go like this. The head coaches gone, the offensive
coordinator's gone. You had a defensive coordinator last year who
had the FBI raid his house. You know that's normal. Whatever,
no big deal, no big deal whatsoever. Congratulations, We have
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now crossed everybody off the list. As we stare down
the barrel of eleven straight losses and a four and
thirteen season, after you sat there and poked fun at
another organization that you did a deal with, It's hilarious.
Jonas Knox here Fox Sports Radio, two Pros and a
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There are some good things that happen, and there's some
bad and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time
for good, bad and lovely.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
All right, to lead a lap. Since Levar's not here
and Brady's not here, we're gonna divvy this out a
little bit differently. Who's got what today?
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Will? Jonah says. We do each and every Wednesday. We
start with the good news, and it's an especially good
news week because we have Loraina.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Okay, another box of goodies.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
He drives about that positivity. But it's not about my
box of goodies. No, no, no. This actually popped up
on my Instagram feed and I thought it was kind
of funny.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
So Shaq, you know aka.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
DJ Diesel, he was on NBA on TNT and he
actually broke the big board that they have that like
the big screen in the background. They were all joking
and he went up and smacked it and broke it,
and he broke it so the whole screen was busted,
and they joked, we can't have nothing nice with you
(32:48):
around here.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Shrek.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
They called him Shrek.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I mean, I know when we were doing the when
we were doing the Sunday Night Show, the challenge on
KNBC last year. The monitor that we had, it's like
a TV monitor, like a third of the screen was
broken and we don't know who did it. We don't
know how it happened, but we couldn't see anything on
the screen. So you know, you just like those are
(33:13):
technical difficulties and you know, hopefully, hopefully they get that
figured out.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
The funny part is he went up and tried to
smack it again to fix it.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Oh yeah, it's the old trick and it didn't work.
Did not work. No, that's too bad. What else we got?
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I love that. That's a good news. Well, you can't
have good without the bad. And by the way, those
snacks that come in for Lorena are bad, but.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
You mean they're healthy, Lee, Well, so Lorena, what is
the so you get? There's people to send you boxes
of snacks and goodies every single week, and this week
it was what you had the little Debbie Christmas trees.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Yeah, we got little Debbie snacks. And then we have
new protein bars and protein chips.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Yeah, there's protein chips. It's kind of like a Dorito's
ranch but it's not and it's but they're like puffs.
It's filled with like protein powder. I just had one,
and I'm dying.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
It's not good. What about that beef jerkey you had?
That was like Serrano based beef jerkey.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
So yeah, I was flexing on these guys because they're like,
this is inedible. It's so hot. It's Cajun hot, Cajun
spice hot. And so I started eating a couple of
pieces of thoughts.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I think it says, casion, where's the bag.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
It's right there in front of Jonasova on the other side.
But uh, I was flexing on him, letting them know.
It was actually pretty tasty. But it did have a
pretty lingeren hot taste. So that was the best thing
that we've gotten, actually nice.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Any any any oatmeal raisin cookies in there? Those uh
those like soft Little Debbie oatmeal raisin cookies.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Nick Saban has that for breakfast every single day. He
has that with a cup of coffe, the one with
the cream filling, and those things are tremendous.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
My cousin ate like a whole box of those times three,
and he actually had to get his like.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Ripped of a stomach open. Right, Maybe they're not great,
all right, So don't send those, I guess Lee what
do you got for the bad?
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Also, my fantasy football strategy has been bad this year. Obviously.
You know, I stretched myself. Then I'm in five leagues
and it's playoff time now, so I think I made
three out of my five.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
You're such a digena. Why are you in five different leagues? Dude?
Come on?
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Well, you know I got like two separate childhood well
not childhood but like high school friend leagues. I got
a producer's league here with producers all across LA. I
got one league with like guys on the East Coast
that I've never even met. That's the one that I
always dominate. Actually. And then there's oh, Roberto's league. That's
(35:39):
the one I got called into. That's my fifth league.
Four is four is stretching it. Five is way too much.
Roberto asked me to be in his league. Roberto is
the only one I know in that league. Me and
him are killing it.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Yeah, I mean, so, what was your strategy? Because I
think there's a bit, there's a bigger story that's like
a real NFL story for people that don't play fantasy football.
There is a strategy, and this, now that I think
about it, this year I got kind of screwed because
if you don't value the running back the way that
you should in fantasy football, and also the way that
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NFL teams have not valued the running back in years past,
you probably got burned this year because if you took
a running back late, all of a sudden, you missed
out on Derrick Henry and Josh Jacobs and Saquon Barkley
and Joe and like all these guys because you thought, oh,
it's a receivers league, they're passing it. You get points
per reception to go along with it, and you're probably
you know, sitting on the outside looking in based on
(36:34):
this point the season and how running backs have been productive.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
I have one league where I have Saquon Barkley, Derrick Henry,
and Alvin Kamara. So I'm pretty, yeah, I'm sitting pretty.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
In that way. I don't have any of those, yea.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
So other than that, I have Jayden Reed in every
single league. He gave me a gooseg and all of them.
I'm not going to get into all that, but what
I am left with is basically one league where I
can come out with money. That's the league that I
am the commissioner of. So I have all the money
already in my bank account, which means I've already spent
all that money. So I'm basically playing not to pay
people out, if that makes any sense. Yeah, I'm basically
(37:06):
I'm hoping to win it all so that I don't
have to pay aisle.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
That's nice.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Hundreds and hundreds of dollars at the end of the
at the end of the season.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Well done, Yeah boy. But what a trustworthy source with
the income that everybody's provided you. All right, That's that's fun. Yeah,
all right.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
It's come in handy this week. So from bad two words, Jonas,
what was ugly this week? It's ugly and it seems
like it's getting uglier. And we've talked about just the
games in the NFL in comparison to college football, and
you could feel, however you want to feel about, you know,
which do you prefer.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Look, I'm an NFL guy. If you asked me to
pick one or the other, I'm glad I don't have
to pick. But if you asked me to pick one
or the other, I would pick the NFL. It's indisputable
that college football has been the better product this year. Indisputable.
And if you look at the NFL and you look
at some of these games that they've got scheduled, whether
it's the early window or the late window. Last week
(37:54):
was terrible, Like some of the early games are terrible.
But the real ugly in the NFL is while everybody celebrates,
you know, teams like the Chiefs, teams like the Lions,
the Bills, the Vikings, Phillies in the mix, the Steelers.
There's some really really bad football teams that almost feel
(38:15):
hopeless at this point, whether it's Cleveland or Jacksonville. The
Jets are a disaster, the Giants are atrocious, The Raiders
are awful. I mean, they threw Aidan O'Connell in an
air cast and he apparently didn't need it. He might
actually pu like the whole Carolina we've discussed, the Bears,
(38:36):
we've discussed like the Cowboys look brutal. If you just
look at the bottom half of the NFL, it's not
only teams that are bad, it's teams that feel hopeless,
Like how's Cleveland gonna move on from Deshaun Watson and
get out of that deal without having to pay a
fortune and then they've got to start all over again,
and then you're looking at Jacksonville or a team like
(38:58):
the Jets, and it feels like if everybody acknowledges that
the first quarterback off the board is going to be
Shad or Sanders, he's going to be the number one
overall pick. You got a bunch of teams out there
that need quarterbacks, and all of a sudden they're looking
at the draft going I don't know, I don't know
where I go next. So my ugly for the week
has been an ugly that we've seen play out way
(39:19):
too many times. It was brutal the scheduling last week
in the NFL, and then you start to look at
the bottom of the league and you realize, man, we
are bad and we've got no hope to be good
anytime soon.
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of football. I didn't think it would, didn't think it
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the way tire buying should be. So when the discussion
came out about Bill Belichick being interested in the North
Carolina job, I just thought that it was all posturing.
He's trying to let everybody know, like, hey, I'm here.
(01:40):
This media thing is fun, But I got my goal
set my eyes on coaching again. If I got to
throw out a college football rumor to try and stir
up some interest in the NFL and rattle some cages,
and that's what I gotta do. It's like, Okay, it
makes sense. I guess we've seen it before and apparently not.
Apparently this is a real thing now. Pete Prisco yesterday
(02:02):
alluded to the fact that part of the allure for
Belichick in North Carolina would be that he would set
up his son to take over after he was gone,
so he would be there for a short time. Obviously,
age would be a factor as well. Too, and that
he would set up his son to take over the
gig after he left daddy. So. Allie Connolly, who writes
(02:26):
for The Guardian, had a report that came out over
the last couple of days confirming the fact. According to
sources that Belichick's negotiations with North Carolina include the guarantee
that Steven Belichick's son will be named the school's head
coach in waiting. UNC's open to the guarantee. Discussions are
not a bid to gain leverage for NFL offers, and
(02:48):
Bill Belichick is open to the move. He updated that
and went on to say Belichick has agreed to become
the North Carolina coach. Belichick handed the school a four
hundred paid quote organizational bible with structure, payment plans, staffing choices, etc.
Decisions on whether to commit with UNC. He is expected
(03:09):
to know their decision within the next twenty four hours.
Allie Connelly went on to say Belichick's bible would require
historic levels of investment from the school, include salary minimums
position by position, and willingness to hire two staffs. A
coaching staff run by Belichick, a recruitment staff run by
a sitting college GM who would require a buyout. Belichick
(03:32):
has a college and pro version of his updated manual
and has shared it with other schools and NFL teams,
but he drafted a new one specific to North Carolina
that touched on every aspect of the program, and school
will need to sign off from the athletic director, the chancellor,
the trustees, and boosters. There's already been pushback from the
group of thirteen trustees with input from a wider faculty.
(03:57):
The investment would overhaul the school's approach to football. Call
Belichick unsure if the school will meet his demands and
is unwilling to negotiate again. That from Allie Connolly, who's
been covering this for The Guardian. When it comes to
Belichick's real interest in the North Carolina gig, all right,
I thought it was just smoke that he wasn't actually
(04:21):
interested in the job. I was under the impression that
Belichick looked at the opportunity to be the all time
wins leader in the NFL as a goal that he
would want, and you would assume if he takes this job,
it's probably a two year deal at least based on
his age. Before his son comes in. He establishes the
(04:43):
program gets them rolling. I don't know where he's at
at that point in his life. I don't know where
he's at in that point in his desire to go
back to the NFL. But all of a sudden, you're
looking at, Okay, this is being pushed down the road,
and we're kicking the can down the road on him
trying to pursue the record. I guess this is a
real thing. I guess Belichick looks at the opportunity to
(05:06):
build the college program and thinks, I'll bet I could
do that. I'll just go and reverse. You'll see coaches
go from college to the NFL. I've never coached at
the college level. I'll go back and I'll get that done.
My favorite part about this whole report, though, is the
quote unquote pushback from North Carolina. That's my favorite. You know,
(05:31):
like North Carolina. You know, because when you think powerhouse,
blue blood football program, and you think like college football
playoff team, you think North Carolina. No, you probably don't
at all. In fact, when you think North Carolina, let's
just be honest here, you think basketball school. Like that's
(05:56):
I'm sorry that it is what it is. So when
I look at the pushback from North Carolina saying no, no, no, no, no.
That guy is gonna come in here and tell us
how we're going to do things. No, no, not gonna happen,
not on our watch. That's like walking by a homeless
encampment and somebody pops out from under a tent. He's
(06:16):
got two different pairs of shoes on and holes in
his dickies and he looks at you and goes, hey, dude,
here's a few bucks. Clean up your act. Excuse you?
Who who are you?
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Like?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
You're dictating to me? What like North Carolina is telling
Belichick no, listen, nah, no, Hey, I know we were
six and six this past year, all right, I know
that we haven't sniffed a national title and you know forever,
but we're not going to take any sort of adjustment
(06:53):
to what our plan is and what our structure is,
especially from you. And you get people to say, what
is Belichick knows ever coached at the college level. Belichick's
one of his best friends in the world is Nick
Saban You ever heard of that name? You know, the
greatest coach to ever do it at the college level,
(07:14):
one of his best friends, Like you don't think Belichick
has had conversations with Saban about, Hey, what went wrong
for you? What didn't you like and if you could
do it all over again, if you had any interest,
how would you do it. The guy put together in
(07:36):
this quote unquote bible and presented it to the school,
custom made for North Carolina. And yet you got people
there that are pushing Oh listen, no, no, there's pushback.
We're not sure about all this. No, if somebody like
that offers up an idea on how to put the
program back on the map, you listen to that somebody.
(08:01):
It's like when the Falcons and other teams were pushing
back on Belichick. All you know, his input in the organization,
his input. Look at how things ended in New England. Okay,
look how things went like You don't think he would
want that guy's input on some of this stuff. So
(08:22):
when you see North Carolina, well, we're pushing back. We're
not sure if this is the best idea for our program. Okay,
so just go six and six again. And apparently, by
the way, the dismissal of Mac Brown and how that
all went, apparently that didn't go all that smooth either.
But don't worry about it. Everybody, North Carolina's got it.
Figure it out. Bum pops, bum pops out from under
(08:46):
a tent. Ay, man, what's with the outfit? Dude? You're
wearing trash bags and Halloween decorations in public and pushing
a card around with aluminum cans inside of it. Don't
worry about what I'm driving in my presentation in public. Okay,
you got your own issues. Like if he's got any
(09:09):
interest and ideas on how to get better, listen to
him and Nick Saban, his good friend, was very upfront
about this whole thing when he left Alabama and told
everybody this is why I left. I didn't like this.
I didn't like that dude, Like, of course he's going
to have a discussion with him, he's talked with you.
(09:33):
Don't think he's got strategy. You don't think he's got
like this whole thing, Like, hey man, I've been doing
my due diligence. I've been around it. It's not like
Belichick's one of those guys who shows up to his
media gig ten minutes before with no prep and walks
in and says, all right, so what are we talking about?
He puts the time in, like he researches this stuff.
(09:55):
He studies this stuff, the fact that he's intro still
in the gig and the people like you know that
it's a potential gateway for his son, who can he's
trying to build a program. And look, we talked about
it last week with Albert Breer, and Breer said it best.
He's like, no, he really thinks that if there's any
time to get into the college game to where it
(10:18):
looks as close to the NFL game that it's ever been,
now's the time. And so if he sees that as
a better opportunity for him for his son, and he
likes the structure, yeah, like here, here's here's what I'm
I'm putting together for you guys. This is what I'm
willing to accept if you'll accept me. And you got
(10:40):
people there at North Carolina like, nah, hold on, no,
whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa
Hold on a second here, Nah no, No, It's like
it's like the falcons telling him, no, listen, we're not
we're not sure whether or not you'd be a good
fit for us. Okay, Oh you're not sure, all right, Okay,
(11:01):
Well I'm not sure you're a good fit for a
twenty five point lead in the Super Bowl either, So okay,
but all right, you're not sure neat. It's like me
standing over my mechanic shoulder, going now, man put that there.
He looks back at me and goes, did you get
the hell out of here?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
What hell do you know?
Speaker 1 (11:21):
So look, I'm still skeptical. I think he ends up
back in the NFL. There's some odds that have come
out to where North Carolina is the favorite to be
where Belichick coach is next a slight favorite. And then
you've got, you know, the Jacksonville Jaguars that could be
in the mix, and I think that would make a
little bit more sense to me. I'm a little skeptical.
But the fact that he's presented this and is just
(11:44):
waiting for North Carolina to accept the terms and conditions
of the deal ought to tell you this is no joke.
Guy's done his research, He's looked into it, and this
is a real possibility of happening, even though I dismissed
it from the from the get go. Jonas here Fox
Sports Radio, two Pros and a cup of Joe here
on FSR. By the way we do have a quick
(12:05):
update here. Lead to lap Our executive producer brought this
to our attention in another edition of In case you
missed it Last Hour, So we did want to get
to the bottom of this because this is important stuff here. Hey, Lee,
Chris wrote in and said, you do know Joe Burrow
and his girl broke up in the offseason, right.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Yeah, but they've been on again, off again for their
entire relationship.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Now you're probably wondering why Joe Burrow's girlfriend has made
an appearance on the show here, And it's not because
we needed to fill a seat because Brady and Lebar
didn't show up. It's because apparently Joe Burrow's house got
broken into during Monday night football and the person who
called in the report just happens to be an SI
swimsuit model. Is that the correct the correct credential? Yeah,
(12:55):
who you know is a quote unquote employee of Joe Burrow,
And so we were speculating, you know, if Joe Burrow's
got a girlfriend, that's an interesting way for her to
find out that he's, you know, mowing somebody else's lawn.
So I'm just, yeah, I'm just trying to get to
the bottom of this, So Lee, do we do we
know for sure whether or not a Joe Burrow did
(13:16):
break up with her in the off season or what.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
It is a story that they did break up, that
it is correct. It's been rumored whether or not they
got back together. Uh, but officially they are broken up. Officially, well,
I don't know, hope officially anything, but uh he I
don't think he's officially dating anybody right now.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
By the way, if I called my wife my employee,
like she would wrap a mag light around the bridge
of my nose when I got home, like there wouldn't
even like, there's not even a discussion. I walk in,
I get cursed out in Spanish, and then I've got
to wear a flashlight across my face if that's the case.
So hey, listen, Joe Burrow, godspeed man. I hope you
(13:58):
figure that out. And for you dead ends that are
out there breaking into athletes homes where they're playing games,
get a life, man. And if you're upset about what
happened in Fantasy football draft better or do you think
I'm not in the playoffs in my league this year?
All right? Jonas Knox, Two pros and a cup of
Joe here on Fox Sports Radio at the Jonas Knox
and X coming up next year. Though, right when he
thought somebody was safe, there's a team in the NFL
(14:21):
they got a lot of problems. But we just assumed, hey,
somebody's safe, everything's gonna be all right. Apparently that's not
the case. We've got more information on that that's coming
up right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
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App Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
Jonas Knox in for the guys Flying Solo, by the way,
Coming up in a little over twenty minutes from now,
we're gonna have a special edition of our Midweek Awards
that'll yours here on FSR. So if you're listening to
the podcast, Loraina is playing the theme song to National
(15:07):
Lampoon's Christmas Vacation. And you know they don't tell you
about that, But first of all, I don't think the
movie age very well. To be honest with you, it's
not all that funny. But the only way that it
can be funny is if you watch the real version.
And I can't watch the real version because my son
(15:27):
is three and there are a lot more F bombs
and things like that in the movie that are not
suitable for a three year old. So if you've got
to watch the water down version with the no cursing
and all that that they show on like AMC or
whatever channel it is or TBS, it's just not as good.
So it already does Beiz there was an R rated version?
(15:50):
Well of what isn't the the actual version rated R?
I'm assuming it would be. There's an F bomb drop,
there's there's scenes in there. I'm assuming it would be
an R movie.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
I'm seeing PG thirteen.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Okay, well, prude in sexual humor. I just know that
there's curse words and for language, and he he will
repeat anything like he is not like. So that's that's
a little bit of a problem. And you know, it's
been a little bit of a problem, and I'm running
out of people to blame it on because everything comes
from me.
Speaker 4 (16:23):
So although the original was rated Our Lampoon's Vacation.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Oh and they watered it down? What did they say
they must have deleted scenes.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Right, Yeah, it says, you know, a side view of
a woman's anatomy, implied sexual acts.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
How close to NC seventeen was Bad Sanna? Because I
feel like the fact that that's rated R and National
Lampoon's Christmas Vacation is rated R, there's two different degrees here,
like completely different.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Sorry, what was the question?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
So like, how like how close to being NC seventeen
was bad Sanna? Because that's on the brink Like if
the original version of of Christmas Vacation was rated R
and so is bad Sanna, something's wrong here. It's just
two different levels, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
I don't know how close to the NC seventeen it was,
but it was definitely going for it. I was watching
Jingle all the Way the other night, and I was
one of my favorites. I've first seen it first time
I'd seen it in probably decades, and I was like, oh,
this is probably where exactly where Bad Santa came from.
Where he meets Uh. Jim Belushi is Uh is a
(17:35):
Bad Santa basically with his little elf, and they go
to like this warehouse and it's a bunch of criminal
Santas and Elves.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Oh sweet, and never seen it.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Yeah it's called Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Yeah, yeah, I never seen it. And zinbad such a
good interesting well, chan, it's good.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
It's worth watching. I also watched the Santa Claus last
night with Tim Allen. That was actually really good.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Yeah, my kids, he's all caught up in the Christmas Chronicles.
Little Kurt Russell, little Kurt Russell fan brewing. So he's
from Thousand Oaks, went to my alma mater. So you
got to give Kurt Russell some love, good taste. It
is two pros and a cup of Joe here on
Fox Sports Radio. All right, So speaking of you know,
(18:20):
speaking of Jim Belushi, who I believe is a Chicago native.
If you were wondering whether or not there was going
to be somebody getting out of this disaster of a
season in Chicago for the Bears unscathed, oh don't worry
about it. There's not. There's not because apparently now GM
(18:43):
Ryan Poles may or may not be kind of sniffing
around at his exit as well too. So this courtesy
of Mark Silverman from ESPN in Chicago, who had this
to say about the potential moving on from the Bears GM.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
One of the main reasons that Ryan Pohls took the
Bear's job was because he liked the direct reporting nature
to the team owner. It was very appetizing to him
as a general manager to report directly to ownership.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
There was no buffer.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
If he had an issue, he can go right to George,
right to ownership, and that when Kevin Warren was hired,
he was frustrated with that from the start that he
never loved it. It was not a personal thing with Kevin,
but it was something that he didn't like that he
went from reporting to the owner to now having to
(19:40):
report to a team president who reports to the owner.
There was a go between, and he was very vocal
about that to people he trusted inside the building that
maybe he never would have taken the job to begin with.
I wouldn't be shocked again if by the end of
the year there's a mutual parting of the.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
So that's Mark Silverman of ESPN in Chicago talking about
Ryan Poles the GM there. So I mean, at least
everybody's getting it this year, you know, like there's like
that's the one thing you want to feel like you're
all part of the mess or all part of the circus.
You know, you've got to have people that are, like,
you know, walking around with the animals hoping they don't
get attacked. You've got to have people that are juggling
bowling pins. You've got to have a clown. You've got
(20:22):
to you gotta have all that stuff at the circus
and you've got to fill every spot. And the Bears
have done that this year, so everybody's getting it. Head
coach is gone, offensive coordinator gone. You've got players saying, nah, man,
(20:42):
we needed to move on from the coach. And then
what do they do when they finally move on from
the coach and they've got the interim offensive coordinator is
their coach. They go out to Santa Clara to play
the forty nine ers and get pistol whipped from start
to finish. That game wasn't close, and you start looking
(21:03):
around and you go, so how bad is this gonna get?
And now the guy who everybody was lauding and everybody
was celebrating about the move he made. You remember how
everybody was laughing like people were, I mean, they couldn't
get enough. They were laughing at the deal that got done,
talking about oh my God, look at what the Look
(21:24):
at what the Bears got in return. Look at what
the Bears got in return in that big blockbuster trade
for the Carolina Panthers. Mad the Bears fleeced the Carolina Panthers.
Everybody took shots at the Panthers. Oh by god, they're
a laughing stock, what a joke, what a terrible franchise
(21:49):
and a terrible organization. They give up all those picks,
they traded away Dj Moore only to draft Bryce Young,
and he's not working out. He's gonna be a bust.
And then the Bears are gonna end up with all
this draft capital. They've got first round pick and second
round picks, and then it's gonna work out in their
(22:10):
favor and they're gonna draft Caleb Williams one overall. Hahaha. Man,
the Carolina Panthers are a diaper fire. And then you
look at the standings and the Bears are one game better.
And I got news for you. They're not winning another
game this year. They were four and two going into
the bye week with a huge win against the Jacksonville
(22:35):
Jaguars in London. They've lost every game since. They've had
catastrophic disasters at the end of games they've no shown
others like what they did in San Francisco and Santa
Clara with the Niners, and then their remaining schedule as
such at the Vikings on Monday night football home against
(22:58):
the Lions, against the Seahawks, and then at the Packers. Dude,
they're gonna rattle off eleven straight losses after the bye
week to end the season. I don't want to hear
anybody make another comment remark smirk about the trade and
(23:28):
the deal with the Carolina Panthers. Ever again, where the
guy who was being lauded as man oh, he fleece
the Panthers organization. He took their best wide receiver and
he got the Caleb Williams with the number one pick.
And I don't want to hear a damn thing from
anybody because there's a real chance that at the end
(23:49):
of this season, you know, these season in which we
were really going to get to see the goods, you know,
we were really gonna get to see what all that
looked like and how bad out of a loss the
Panthers took in it. If they're sitting there tied with
the Bears at four wins at the end of this year.
(24:10):
You should shut your ass if you're being critical of
the Carolina Panthers in that trade. It's ow.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
You could just shut your big y.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
It's over. Like now the GM may one out, Okay.
And if you get a new GM and you get
a new coach, what does that mean for the quarterback?
And look, Caleb Williams has shown signs over the past
(24:39):
several weeks that he's got the goods. There's some throws,
there's some decision like he's not like he's gone, you know,
two hundred something consecutive passes without throwing an interception and
all that. All that's good and well, but they're a
terrible football team. And if you were to tell people
before the year after everybody was talking about, oh my god,
this team, dude, they're gonna finish four and thir team. Yeah, okay,
(25:02):
if you told somebody at the bye week after they
clowned the Jaguars in London, you know that was their
last one of the season, right, Okay, did you see
with that offense? Okay, Like that's the reality of the situation.
Like you've got leaks everywhere in the organization everywhere, Like
(25:24):
Roman Dunesay's dad cannot help himself, goes to social media
on almost a daily occurrence and takes a shot at
the offense in the organization, can't help himself. There's been
some other reporting out there that maybe Tyson Bagent, the
backup quarterback, you know, his dad, who's the arm wrestler
(25:45):
who was featured on Hard Knocks, that maybe his dad
was out there kind of throwing out some of the
reporting that that was a you know, there's been some
veteran players that have gone to gone to coaches and said, hey,
we need to bench Caleb and put in Tyson Bagent. Okay,
well that's normal, that's normal behavior. Like all the other
(26:06):
stuff that came out the locker room leaks, Jalen Johnson
ripping into Matt Eberflus after the game against Detroit, like
all that stuff that came out. First of all, why
is that coming out? Why is it? And it's not
like the Bears are denying it. Bears players are talking
about oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is like the
(26:29):
Eagle stuff. You got Brandon Graham talking about the dysfunction
between Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown, except the only difference
is Philly's actually good. Like I made this point if
there were like, because there was a discussion about ay
Man Kyle Shannan, could the Bears trade for Kyle Shannan.
(26:53):
You know, it was thrown out there, Mike Florio threw
it out there, and then you know, you push back
on Flooryo's report. He gets you know, sensitive about or whatever.
So you know, part for the course, but there's like, oh, man,
like that would be a brilliant move for the Bears.
Of course it would, of course, But like there's one
key component to that whole discussion. It's the Bears. Like
(27:14):
if you send them to the supermarket to get eggs,
they would come back with a blunder. That's what they do.
That's the organization. But like that's that's what it is.
And it's not just a well Eberflus is gone. Everything's
no stop stop. They have been milking the eighty five
(27:39):
Bears for decades. It's been going on for decades. Like
since then you had your early two thousand's to like
around two thousand and eight or nine that you could
point to and listen. They had some great players on
those teams. Brian Urlacker and Lance Briggs and Old and
(28:00):
Crudes and I mean, great players, but dude, like they
haven't won a playoff game since like twenty eleven. They've
won six playoff games since the eighty five Bears. Like
what else do you need to see? And I just
I do love the priorities though, you know, like they've
(28:23):
got leaks everywhere, Like everybody's talking to everybody. Like now,
all of a sudden, Ryan Poles might win out at
the end of the season, and then you've got all
the other stuff that's happened during the course of the year.
My favorite part about all this, though, is the fact
that the Bears wanted to make sure when they were
featured on Hard Knocks that there was no cursing. All right,
(28:43):
we got to have our priorities straight here. No cursing
on Hard Knocks. What about the fact that everybody's talking
to everybody and leaks are coming out and you've got
you know, teammates dads that are complaining of Yeah, I mean,
who cares about all that? We just don't want to curse, Okay,
Like speaking of movie ratings, no problem, Hey Bears, your
(29:05):
PG for the HBO cameras. But when it comes to
the actual season, like it's nc anybody not suitable for
anybody at any age to have to watch this garbage
that they've rolled out and they pointed fingers and it's
(29:26):
this and listen, man, it takes a lot for you
to make the Cubs organization look like they got it
together in Chicago, and somehow the Chicago Bears have done it.
So bravo. Congratulations. Now everybody is getting it there. Everybody's
(29:48):
got some sort of stink on him. Now it's Ryan
Poles who may want out at the end of the
season because he didn't know that the structure was going
to go like this. The head coaches gone, the offensive
coordinator's gone. You had a defensive coordinator last year who
had the FBI raid his house. You know that's normal. Whatever,
no big deal, no big deal whatsoever. Congratulations, We have
(30:13):
now crossed everybody off the list. As we stare down
the barrel of eleven straight losses and a four and
thirteen season, after you sat there and poked fun at
another organization that you did a deal with, It's hilarious.
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(30:34):
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Speaker 2 (31:48):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some
bad and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time
for good, bad and lovely.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
All right, to lead a lap. Since Levar's not here
and Brady's not here, we're gonna divvy this out a
little bit differently. Who's got what today?
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Will? Jonah says. We do each and every Wednesday. We
start with the good news, and it's an especially good
news week because we have Loraina.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Okay, another box of goodies.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
He drives about that positivity. But it's not about my
box of goodies. No, no, no. This actually popped up
on my Instagram feed and I thought it was kind
of funny.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
So Shaq, you know aka.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
DJ Diesel, he was on NBA on TNT and he
actually broke the big board that they have that like
the big screen in the background. They were all joking
and he went up and smacked it and broke it,
and he broke it so the whole screen was busted,
and they joked, we can't have nothing nice with you
(32:48):
around here.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Shrek.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
They called him Shrek.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I mean, I know when we were doing the when
we were doing the Sunday Night Show, the challenge on
KNBC last year. The monitor that we had, it's like
a TV monitor, like a third of the screen was
broken and we don't know who did it. We don't
know how it happened, but we couldn't see anything on
the screen. So you know, you just like those are
(33:13):
technical difficulties and you know, hopefully, hopefully they get that
figured out.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
The funny part is he went up and tried to
smack it again to fix it.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Oh yeah, it's the old trick and it didn't work.
Did not work. No, that's too bad. What else we got?
Speaker 4 (33:27):
I love that. That's a good news. Well, you can't
have good without the bad. And by the way, those
snacks that come in for Lorena are bad, but.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
You mean they're healthy, Lee, Well, so Lorena, what is
the so you get? There's people to send you boxes
of snacks and goodies every single week, and this week
it was what you had the little Debbie Christmas trees.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Yeah, we got little Debbie snacks. And then we have
new protein bars and protein chips.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Yeah, there's protein chips. It's kind of like a Dorito's
ranch but it's not and it's but they're like puffs.
It's filled with like protein powder. I just had one,
and I'm dying.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
It's not good. What about that beef jerkey you had?
That was like Serrano based beef jerkey.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
So yeah, I was flexing on these guys because they're like,
this is inedible. It's so hot. It's Cajun hot, Cajun
spice hot. And so I started eating a couple of
pieces of thoughts.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I think it says, casion, where's the bag.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
It's right there in front of Jonasova on the other side.
But uh, I was flexing on him, letting them know.
It was actually pretty tasty. But it did have a
pretty lingeren hot taste. So that was the best thing
that we've gotten, actually nice.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Any any any oatmeal raisin cookies in there? Those uh
those like soft Little Debbie oatmeal raisin cookies.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
You know.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Nick Saban has that for breakfast every single day. He
has that with a cup of coffe, the one with
the cream filling, and those things are tremendous.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
My cousin ate like a whole box of those times three,
and he actually had to get his like.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Ripped of a stomach open. Right, Maybe they're not great,
all right, So don't send those, I guess Lee what
do you got for the bad?
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Also, my fantasy football strategy has been bad this year. Obviously.
You know, I stretched myself. Then I'm in five leagues
and it's playoff time now, so I think I made
three out of my five.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
You're such a digena. Why are you in five different leagues? Dude?
Come on?
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Well, you know I got like two separate childhood well
not childhood but like high school friend leagues. I got
a producer's league here with producers all across LA. I
got one league with like guys on the East Coast
that I've never even met. That's the one that I
always dominate. Actually. And then there's oh, Roberto's league. That's
(35:39):
the one I got called into. That's my fifth league.
Four is four is stretching it. Five is way too much.
Roberto asked me to be in his league. Roberto is
the only one I know in that league. Me and
him are killing it.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Yeah, I mean, so, what was your strategy? Because I
think there's a bit, there's a bigger story that's like
a real NFL story for people that don't play fantasy football.
There is a strategy, and this, now that I think
about it, this year I got kind of screwed because
if you don't value the running back the way that
you should in fantasy football, and also the way that
(36:12):
NFL teams have not valued the running back in years past,
you probably got burned this year because if you took
a running back late, all of a sudden, you missed
out on Derrick Henry and Josh Jacobs and Saquon Barkley
and Joe and like all these guys because you thought, oh,
it's a receivers league, they're passing it. You get points
per reception to go along with it, and you're probably
you know, sitting on the outside looking in based on
(36:34):
this point the season and how running backs have been productive.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
I have one league where I have Saquon Barkley, Derrick Henry,
and Alvin Kamara. So I'm pretty, yeah, I'm sitting pretty.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
In that way. I don't have any of those, yea.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
So other than that, I have Jayden Reed in every
single league. He gave me a gooseg and all of them.
I'm not going to get into all that, but what
I am left with is basically one league where I
can come out with money. That's the league that I
am the commissioner of. So I have all the money
already in my bank account, which means I've already spent
all that money. So I'm basically playing not to pay
people out, if that makes any sense. Yeah, I'm basically
(37:06):
I'm hoping to win it all so that I don't
have to pay aisle.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
That's nice.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Hundreds and hundreds of dollars at the end of the
at the end of the season.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Well done, Yeah boy. But what a trustworthy source with
the income that everybody's provided you. All right, That's that's fun. Yeah,
all right.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
It's come in handy this week. So from bad two words, Jonas,
what was ugly this week? It's ugly and it seems
like it's getting uglier. And we've talked about just the
games in the NFL in comparison to college football, and
you could feel, however you want to feel about, you know,
which do you prefer.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Look, I'm an NFL guy. If you asked me to
pick one or the other, I'm glad I don't have
to pick. But if you asked me to pick one
or the other, I would pick the NFL. It's indisputable
that college football has been the better product this year. Indisputable.
And if you look at the NFL and you look
at some of these games that they've got scheduled, whether
it's the early window or the late window. Last week
(37:54):
was terrible, Like some of the early games are terrible.
But the real ugly in the NFL is while everybody celebrates,
you know, teams like the Chiefs, teams like the Lions,
the Bills, the Vikings, Phillies in the mix, the Steelers.
There's some really really bad football teams that almost feel
(38:15):
hopeless at this point, whether it's Cleveland or Jacksonville. The
Jets are a disaster, the Giants are atrocious, The Raiders
are awful. I mean, they threw Aidan O'Connell in an
air cast and he apparently didn't need it. He might
actually pu like the whole Carolina we've discussed, the Bears,
(38:36):
we've discussed like the Cowboys look brutal. If you just
look at the bottom half of the NFL, it's not
only teams that are bad, it's teams that feel hopeless,
Like how's Cleveland gonna move on from Deshaun Watson and
get out of that deal without having to pay a
fortune and then they've got to start all over again,
and then you're looking at Jacksonville or a team like
(38:58):
the Jets, and it feels like if everybody acknowledges that
the first quarterback off the board is going to be
Shad or Sanders, he's going to be the number one
overall pick. You got a bunch of teams out there
that need quarterbacks, and all of a sudden they're looking
at the draft going I don't know, I don't know
where I go next. So my ugly for the week
has been an ugly that we've seen play out way
(39:19):
too many times. It was brutal the scheduling last week
in the NFL, and then you start to look at
the bottom of the league and you realize, man, we
are bad and we've got no hope to be good
anytime soon.
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