July 3, 2023 • 38 mins
Based off recent comments, Jonas wonders if Robert Kraft resents Bill Belichick for Tom Brady leaving. Joe Burrow is waiting on Justin Herbert to get his deal done first but Jonas argues for Burrow to sign his deal now. Overdoing it on fireworks, hockey fights and more travel woes from Producer Lee on the “FSR IR.”
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way tire buying should be. So I'm starting to wonder
if there's a little bit of resentment going on, you know,
like there's some resentment going on in the NFL. Right,
So there's a couple of things I want you to
hear because it feels like maybe we're not, you know,
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totally lined up around the same page with some stuff.
So Bill Belichick at his postseason press conference talked about
maybe some of the financial restraints that they have as
an organization, just you know what they're spending and whatnot.
And if you remember a couple of years ago, they
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actually were really aggressive and free agency brought a lot
of guys in, you know, Hunter, Henry, Matthew Judon, They
brought in, you know, a bunch of guys to try
and help, you know, add to the roster, add some talent.
It felt like they needed to go in that direction.
And then they found themselves sort of maybe not spending
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as much the next year, and then you know, some
of those guys that they brought in, you know, or
we're kind of you know, sent packing or released or
putting another It just like it felt like it was
a little bit odd that they were getting aggressive one
year and then they weren't. That It's just kind of
the way they're spending was a little bit off. But
Belichick and his postseason press conference talked about just this
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spending habits of the organization, and some people perceive this
as maybe him complaining or maybe taking a little bit
of dig at Robert Kraft. Let's go back and listen
to Belichick. This is his postseason presser.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Are spending in twenty twenty, are spending in twenty and
twenty one, and are spending in twenty and twenty two.
The aggregate of that was we were twenty seventh in
the league in cast spending. So a couple of years
were low, one year was high, but over a three
year period or one of the lowest spending teams in
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the league. So had we averaged that out and in
those three years, you would have had the same numbers.
So whether it's two low and one high, or two
medium or three medium, or two sort of high and
one really low, whatever it is, there's an average that
comes in. So that's the three year average. We're twenty
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seventh in the league in cast spending.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
So that was Belichick talking about just where they're at.
So twenty seventh two teams, so you know they're bottom
five when it comes to spending. Now, Belichick kind of,
you know, clarified later on and said, wow, you know,
I wasn't really taking a shot at anybody. That wasn't
my you know, my intent, you know, something along those lines.
But Robert Kraft, the owner of the Patriots, was recently
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asked about it, and Greg Bedard, who's been covering the
NFL and the Patriots for a long time, asked him,
and he was on NBC Sports Boston's early edition, and
he relayed the message in return that he got from
Bob Kraft after hearing Belichick's comments.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I just want to quot him accurately.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
He says he has never come to me and not
gotten everything he wanted. From a cash spending perspective, we
have never set limits. And he further went on to
say money spending will never be the issue. I promise you,
or I'll sell the team.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So that seems like a clear denial of no. No, listen,
spending is not the problem here and I'm not and
I don't look the way Greg Bodard kind of painted
that picture. You know, maybe Robert Craft was a little
bit pissy about the fact that Belichick made those comments
or made those complaints, like well, whatever the case may be,
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it does bring up a bigger question though. I wonder
if Robert Kraft has some resentment towards Bill Belichick over
the fact that Tom Brady A didn't finish his career
with the Patriots and b not only did he not
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finish his career with the Patriots, he went and won
a super Bowl super Bowl somewhere else, and part of
the reason why Belichick moved on from Brady is because
he felt like that was it. It was time he
was washed. We need to go in a different direction.
And I wonder if Robert Craft will ever forgive him
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for that.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Ultimately, Robert Craft makes the calls on this stuff, you
would assume, but I wonder if Craft trusted Belichick not
Maybe he didn't choose Belichick over Brady, but I wonder
if he trusted him and said, listen, you have a
great eye for talent. I'm going to put this in
your hands. I'm going to trust that you believe that
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Tom Brady has seen better days and that Tom Brady
is done, and you think we're going to go in
a different direction, I'm going to trust you in this
spot to make that call. You're the coach of this team,
you're the de facto general manager. You've been pretty great
about this for a long time. I'm trusting you here
that the greatest player in the history of the franchise,
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the greatest player in the history of the game, is finished.
And I'm trusting that you're making the right decision here.
And then Tom Brady goes and wins the Super Bowl
in the COVID year right afterwards.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I wonder.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
If Robert Craft looks at that and goes, damn, that
was the spot.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I shouldn't have trusted him like that was.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
And I wonder if he's ever forgiven Belichick for that,
because those two are, I mean are joined at the hip,
I mean Belichick and like everyone talks about Belichick and
Tom Brady, but Belichick and Craft have been there a
long time. And when Belichick and when Robert Kraft drops,
he well, it's not spending, I'll sell the team. If
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that were the case, He's never come to me and
made those comments. He's never come to me and said that.
I do wonder whether or not there's still some resentment
that still lies over from that relationship going sour between
Belichick and Brady and Belichick feeling like it's over, because
I absolutely believe that if Belichick wanted Brady there for
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as long as Brady wanted to play, Tom Brady doesn't
leave to go anywhere else. I don't think he leaves.
I think he would have stayed in New England. I
don't think after that many years with an organization, Brady
would be like, yeah, I just want to go try
something else out. Yeah, I just want to try something
melts out for me, there was clearly an issue there.
There was clearly some sort of headbutting there. You know,
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they were at a point in their relationship where they
couldn't work together anymore. And I wonder if Robert Kraft
looks at that and goes, man, you cost us the
ability to write the end of that story. You cost
us that. And then he goes and he wins a
Super Bowl somewhere else, and he was unbelievable, like Tom
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Brady's final year. And there was, you know, a conversation
that was out recently where I think it was you know,
Logan Ryan came out recently and said, well, you know,
Brady was dealing with stuff off the field. I think
he was talking with Colin Coward. He was dealing with
stuff off the field. He was dealing stuff on the field.
There was a lot happening that final season and Tom
Brady that final year, it was not the same player.
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He wasn't bad, he wasn't awful. He just wasn't the
same player he was the first two seasons in Tampa.
So that's fair. But those first two years in Tampa,
they were fantastic. Tom Brady was awesome, Like you could
argue his second to last year, Tom Brady should have
won the MVP. There were people making the argument Rogers
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won it, but there were people say man Brady should
have won MVP. I mean, they nearly pulled off the
comeback to beat the Rams. And then that conversation completely
changes because next thing you know, Tampa Bay's hosting the
NFC title game. Because the Niners beat the Packers at
lambeau Field. Packer fans are so distraught, lead to that
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passed out by a fire pit with a Packers helmet
on True story. And I just wonder if Robert Kraft
looks at the whole situation and goes, dude, like, the
one time I needed you not to screw this up,
the one time I was depending on your evaluation and
your ability to read players and know when they're done
and when they're not time, and he couldn't do it.
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And it was involving the guy that was the face
of our franchise for years, the player that we identified
we groomed six round pick takes over for Drew Bledsoe.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
That's our guy. We found him.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
We could have had him finish his career here, and
instead you convinced me that it was time for him
to move on. It got to a point to where
he had to leave, and then he goes somewhere else
and he wins a Super Bowl. And I just wonder
if when you hear Belichick make comments about where they're
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at spending wise, and Robert Kraft gets aggressive and says, listen,
if spending wherever the case, I would sell the team.
I wonder if every time Belichick pops off or they
come up short, it's a reminder to Robert Kraft that
maybe we wouldn't be in this spot if you would
have made the right call on Tom Brady. And I
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just wonder if he never forgives him, Like I don't
come from divorce all right, like I was for my
parents stayed married for you know, the story goes, they met,
got married, I think thirteen days later, and they were
together over fifty years. So I've never gone but I've
heard stories of people talk about divorce to where sometimes
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when one parent, you know, decides to leave, that the
child can get caught in the middle and almost resents
the other parent because it feels like that you forced
them to leave.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's your fault.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
They didn't want to stay in this marriage and they
had to move away, and there's some resentment towards it.
And I just wonder if Bob Kraft is sitting there
in this moment, going, dude, you're the reason he left.
And since then, you know, we've been pretty lackluster. We
went and drafted a quarterback in the first round and
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that was a little bit of a mess. Last year,
we did make a playoff appearance, but we got blown
out by Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Now we're you know, entering this year.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And we're still trying to figure out whether or not
this is the quarterback of the franchise. We went out
and got aggressive and spent a bunch of money, and
yet here you are talking about us being twenty seventh
in the league when it comes to spending. You know,
now we're trying to, you know, convince DeAndre Hopkins to
want to sign here. We signed Juju Smith Schuster and
apparently he's got a knee issue that's still a problem.
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Like you know, I mean, you know, maybe Dalvin Cook like,
but like, we're having to do all of this and
I'm trusting you to make all these decisions. Yet the
biggest decision that you made that was your call resulted
in us losing the face of our franchise and him
going and winning a Super Bowl elsewhere. Like I wonder
if Bob Kraft is that child who kind of resents
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one pair to the next. It's like, dude, you chase
them away.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
That was you.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
And so every time belichick complains about something or makes
a comment, Robert Craft's kind of like, hey man, I
don't want to hear a damn thing, Like you're the
one that made the call on Brady and you're the
reason he didn't finish his career here, And I just
wonder whether or not that's going to persist for the
remainder of Belichick's time there, if Robert Craft ever gets
over that, because damn, it was pretty quick. They wanted
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to celebrate tom Brady. Tom Brady had announced his retirement
on a beach in Florida, and twenty minutes later, Robert
Craft's like, we're going to celebrate him week one this
upcoming year, Like, okay, I'm gonna give this a little bit,
like the Packers waited like five years to honor Brett Fahr.
But I get at different circumstances. But that was pretty
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quick for Robert Kraft to want to, you know, make
sure everybody knows he's a patriot. It struck me as
somebody who maybe never wanted to lose Tom Brady to
begin with. That's how landed to me, and maybe that
resentment is still happening. Jonas Knox were Two Pros and
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we take you all the way up until nine am
Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. But we do have ourselves
a waiting game in the NFL. Somebody's waiting for something.
They're waiting for something before they make a decision, and
we may now know what the waiting is all about.
We'll have it for you next.
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Jonas knocks with you here by the way, coming up
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We've got some.
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Injuries, issues, ailments, things to report in the world of sports,
so we'll and beyond from the entire crew here. So
we'll get into that for you again coming up a
little over twenty minutes from now. So there was some
everybody's been waiting around, Like the two guys that people
are waiting on to make a decision and make a
deal are Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert. One of these
guys going to sign their contract extension because they're going
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to get paid, and you know Cincinnati, he's been kind
of bracing themselves for this. We've talked about this to where,
you know, stadium sponsorship, you know, they didn't normally do that.
You know, now you can gamble in the state of Ohio,
so maybe you know some of that gambling revenue, you know,
throw a sports book in there in the state. Like
whatever they're trying to think of or whatever they're trying
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to do, they're trying to come up with as much
cash as possible because Joe Burrows their guy. It's been
a total success and they'd like to hold on to
him for the next twelve fifteen years and get him paid,
get him locked in, and get the deal done. And
then with Justin Herbert and the Chargers, like he's not
going anywhere. The Chargers have identified he's their franchise quarterback
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and he's going to be our guy moving forward. And
now you're just kind of waiting around. You know, these
are the next two and what are we waiting on?
And they've all talked. Joe Burrow in his camp have said,
and the Cincinnati Bengals have kept it pretty close to
the vest, and everybody's been trying to figure out, all right,
so who's going to be the next one to get
their deal done? Jalen Hurts got paid, Lamar Jackson got paid.
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Who's going to be the next one? So this discussion
has been going on in Cincinnati for a little while now,
and people have been trying to figure out whether or
not Joe Burrow's going to go first or Justin Herbert's
going to go first. And apparently there's a thinking behind
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why Joe Burrow may be waiting this according to Paul Danner,
Junior of The Athletic, who said that part of the
delay in Joe Burrow signing his contract is because he's
waiting on Justin Herbert. Now, all of that would make sense.
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You want to see what the other guy settles for
and then you can come over the top.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Like all of that makes sense. I totally get it.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
But if it's me, and maybe I'm just playing it
safe and maybe I'm not as you know, ballsy or
gutsy when it comes to finances and things like that.
But if it's me, I'm taking my deal and I'm
not really waiting around for the other guy. Because let's
be based on the structure of the contract, you could
probably come back in a couple of years and then
redo it again, like Aaron Rodgers when he got his
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deal done years ago. All of a sudden, you look
back a couple of years later and Rodgers was like,
you know, kind of low on the list when it
comes to quarterbacks making money.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
And then they redid it and he's.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Getting what fifty million a year from the Packers and
now onto the Jets.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
You're just going to redo the deal.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Anyways, after a couple of years, you would think that's
why Patrick Mahomes there's been speculation about what they're going
to do with his contract or Josh Allen or some
of these guys. But Joe Burrow waiting around potentially for
Justin Herbert to get his deal done. I mean, you know,
if I'm Burrow, first of all, he's done more than
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Justin Herbert as I mean, Justin Herbert's got all the
potential and all the promise in the world. But Joe
Burrow's actually taking his team to a super Bowl. You
could argue maybe they should have won that Super Bowl.
He took him to an AFC title game. He's completely
turned around the entire franchise. Like they've gone from disaster
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trying to recover from Andy Dalton. Is Zach Taylor going
to get fired? Do they regret firing Marvin Lewis, etc.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Etc. Etc.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
And now they're one of the teams in the NFL
that you look at and go, yeah, that's a legitimate
Super Bowl contender. I mean, they've ruined the Buffalo Bills,
Like Buffalo's not been the same since that playoff game.
Stefan Diggs doesn't know whether or not he wants to
be on the team anymore. He you know, fighting with somebody.
Is it Josh Allen, Is it the head coach like
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what Cincinnati's. They've completely changed the course of the AFC
for at least one franchise, So Joe Burrow's their guy,
like Justin Herbert. Yeah, I mean he's still got, you know,
things he needs to accomplish, like winning a playoff game
and all the other fun stuff. So he's gonna get paid.
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But Joe Burrow definitely deserves to get paid. And if
he's waiting around for Justin Herbert, me personally, I'm getting
my deal done. I'm not waiting for anybody. If he
ends up being making more money than me the first
couple of years of the deal and I got to
go back after year three or four and redo the
contract with Cincinnati, then I'll do that. But the idea
that he's waiting around for Justin I would get my
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deal done. And on top of that, and this sort
of gets lost in the shuffle. Joe Burrow suffered a
pretty nasty knee injury his first year that cut his
rookie season short, where he tore a couple of ligaments.
And to I give anybody knows the mortality of your
NFL career, Joe Burrow suffered a devastating knee injury year one.
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You would think that would be somebody who doesn't want
to take any chances and wants to go and get
a deal done. It's why wohend Lamar Jackson was playing
the game with the Baltimore Ravens trying to get his
contract done. I'm thinking to myself, dude, you've had your career.
You know mortality stare your scoring in the eyes a
couple of times already. You're a mobile quarterback, You've suffered,
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You've been banged up and injured multiple times in your career.
Why would you not want to get a deal done now?
I play it safe, all right. When we talk about
betting on sports legitimately, and I'm not making this up.
When I complain about bets that I lose, they're five
and ten dollars. I don't have the guts to bet
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significant money on a game because it'll drive me nuts.
Because I can remember being a bus boy at TG
Fridays and betting a one hundred dollars parlay. It was
I think Lebron James's rookie year. I want to say
maybe it was first or second year they were playing
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the Orlando Magic. This is how long ago it was
It was when Tracy McGrady was on the Orlando Magic
and I had a two team parlay. I had the
Calves minus two and a half, or I had the
Calves plus two.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
And a half and I had the under.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
So the over under was like two hundred and two
to oh one something like that, and Cleveland had a
one hundred to ninety seven lead. So on a parlay,
you need both of those to hit in order to
get paid, and I bet one hundred dollars on it.
It would have paid out two sixty. Cleveland had a
one hundred to ninety seven lead. So not only am
I winning my my plus two and a half because
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I'm getting two and a half points and they're up
by three, not only am I covering that, but as
it stands right now, the totals at one ninety seven,
about to hit the under, and Tracy McGrady shoots a
three at the buzzer and gets fouled, misses the shot,
but goes to the free throw line and hits all
three free throws. And I'm standing with a bus tub
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in my hand, a squirt bottle hanging off my apron,
holding on to some paper towels. I'm about to wipe
down a party of eight from thinking to myself, I
just work this entire shift for free, one hundred dollars gone,
man up and vanished like.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
A fart in the wind.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Okay, I've been scarred ever since that, and that happened
like twenty years ago. So when it comes to financial
risk taking, I don't take any chances. And if I'm
Joe Burrow, I'm not waiting around for Justin Herbert and
the Chargers to figure out whether or not they want
to get a deal done. And I'm definitely not waiting
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around to play football any longer, especially after I suffered
a devising injury a couple of years ago. Go to
the table, figure out what it is. Maybe you'll make
a little bit less than some of these other guys,
but then you come back in a couple of years
after there's more revenue in the sport and TV deals
get bigger and the Bengals make more money, and then
you can redo the contract. Then me, personally, I'm the
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All right, two pros and a cup of Joe here
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now here from those tire rack dot Com studios. Hey
look another strike in downtown La. Well, it's like every
day there's like some sort of worker strike, Like every day.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
I just I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I mean, look, you drive into the studio here, there's
the Sherman Oaks Gallery for people listening across the country
all right to just see you understand where the studio
is located, these tire rack dot Com studios.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
It's right off the freeway, so you get right off the.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Freeway and then you know, you go, you hang a
right or depending on where you're coming from, and then
it's right across from this giant shopping center called the
Sherman Oaks Galleria. And I believe that's the where they
filmed the move. Was it Fast Time a Ridgemont High Lee.
That's the movie that was filmed there.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
That is true. I still have never seen it. I
don't know, it's right.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I just I've never said I don't know why, But
if you come here to the studio on a Saturday,
I don't remember the last time that I didn't see
some sort of a protest or somebody on strike. I
swear to god, I don't remember the last time that happened.
And I don't know when this all started, if it
was you know, COVID or if it was you know,
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people were tied, you know, they needed to be outdoors
or whatever the case may be. But it just feels
like there's a writers strike. Now, there's some hotel workers strike,
and just feel like everybody like there's some sort of
a strike going on at all times. So that's one thing.
Here's the other thing. I love how people aren't happy
with just one day. They got to spread everything out.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
It's like you ever talk to somebody who celebrates like
a burday weekend or a birthday month. Like there's some
people that are like, oh my god, it's my birthday month.
All right, your birthday's on the thirtieth. We're doing this
for four weeks. Really like you do, it's my birthday week. No,
you get a birthday. You don't get birthdays, right. It's
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not like when you know your your mom was going
through the process at like eleven forty five at night.
Oh we see that. Here comes all right, so okay
that the head is out. Everything is safe so far,
and the mom said, okay, we hold on a second,
give me like another twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I want to make sure my child can have a
couple of birthdays here.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
It's gonna be we'll do we'll do the just the
head and upper torso, and then we'll do the legs,
you know, when it passed midnight, so that way we
can get two birthdays going on here.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
It's really important. Let's go ahead and spread this stuff out.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
It's like these people that go, oh, it's my birthday month,
my birthday week. It's starting to bleed over into fourth
of July. I have noticed, because you bastards, you're just
not content with fireworks on the fourth of July.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
No no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
It's got to start on the first, the second, the third,
it's gonna be the fifth, it's gonna be the sixth.
Then you're gonna have some left over. You're gonna fire
those off on the seventh. Like enough's enough, just stop,
all right. Dogs don't like it. It freaks kids out
and it's not cool. Like there's people in my neighborhood
(27:31):
that are lighting off like mortar bombs, Like what do
we It's like a Sunday night at six pm and
they're lighting off mortar bombs. Well, it's fourth of July season. No, no,
it's just fourth of July. It's not an entire season.
It's not a week, it's not a month. It's just
a day. And the day generally goes like this. People
(27:52):
wake up, they prep their food, they have an early cocktail.
They they throw the food, you know, on the grill.
If they're smoking something, it's got to sit there for
a significant amount of time. Then maybe you'll go swimming,
then maybe you run around and play. You'll watch some baseball,
have a couple of more beers, this and that, and
(28:13):
then at the end of the night, then the fireworks start.
And then maybe after the fireworks, you'll have a couple
of more cocktails and your roast some marshmallows.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
And it's cool. Every dingy like it.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Just it seems like there's a process here. It's like
a six or seven step process. But that's not good enough,
because ua hole has got to light off fireworks all
week long. I don't know when that started. I don't
know when everybody started to get greedy. But you should
be ashamed of yourself, all right, buy the proper amount
(28:43):
of fireworks so you don't feel like you got to
spread these out over the course of several days and
just let them, let them blow off on fourth of
July and then we move on with our lives. But
it's not gonna happen today. What is gonna happen. They're
gonna fire more off coming up later on today. And
I'm telling you, mark my words, July fifth, right when
you think it's a work week, now we can focus
on getting our stuff done, some clown is going to
(29:07):
fire off some sort of a mortar bomb or a
piccolo pete in your mailbox because they're too drunk, because
they got a cooler of beer left over from the holiday,
and they want to make sure that they get all
this stuff out of their system because they want to
be able to focus on Labor Day. I'm telling you
right now, it's going to happen. Just get ready. That's
what fourth of July is turned into. That and that
slob Joey Chestnuts shoving food in his mouth in front
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Speaker 3 (31:26):
So who's got what? Who wants to go first? Eddie Garcia,
you got one?
Speaker 7 (31:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:30):
I don't know if this counts or not because it
actually didn't happen to me. But I played Beer League
hockey here in southern California. I've played for like twenty years,
and I'm not any good, but it's fun. For the
first time in all the games I've ever played, I
saw two guys drop the gloves, square off really and
(31:52):
have an honest to god hockey fight. Yeah, the rolling hands,
bloody knuckles, the revs let them go. We all just
stood there and watched him. We're like, holy crab, I.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Can't believe that.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
It was a seriously good fight. Like one of the
guy's jerseys got practically ripped off his body, and uh,
I was like, Wow, all the years I've played, I
don't know how many games I've played, I've never I've
seen guys getting mad at each other, pushing.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Even I've shoved.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
Some guy in the face.
Speaker 8 (32:22):
You know, we're wearing bird cage masks and stuff like that.
But I've never seen two guys just literally say let's
go square, like like the NHL players, drop the gloves,
grab older each other and just start teeing off at
each other. How old are these guys, like ballpark I'm
guessing the early thirties and just throwing down.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
Yeah, and they're both pretty big guys, like six to two.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
It was like, were they cool afterwards they got there, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
That's the funny part.
Speaker 8 (32:49):
So you know, they they said they kicked him out
of the game, and so they go off and the
locker rooms and these you know, little coal rinksters right
next to each other so we're looking as the game's
getting ready to Brazil, and they're walking towards each other
like there's nobody there. They're gonna go again. Nope, they
like hug each other.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
See that, Like that's the good thing about hockey players.
They seem like they get well. I think most seem
like they get over it pretty quick.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
Plus they were way too tired to go again. They
were exhausted.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
It's uh man, I don't know if I'm trying to
think like all the times I've ever played like a
pickup game, if I ever saw anybody legitimately throw down,
I don't think I have.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
I said it, like I said, it was a first
for me.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
That's great.
Speaker 7 (33:35):
I've seen people get mad.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
I've seen people, you know, do some stuff, but never
literally you know, just like you see on TV back.
Speaker 7 (33:41):
In the day.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Now, why did they get a game misconduct though it's
just a fight.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
Well, it's because this isn't the.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
NHL okay, But I feel like there needs to be
a rules commissioner there. Somebody's got to step in, Like
those guys have a claim against the league. Now they
got a game misconduct for fighting. There was no high
stick or blatant.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
They also got two gay suspensions automatic two games.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Really yeah, so who's making the calling?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (34:08):
All right, that's fantastic, Lee to lab you got anything?
Speaker 9 (34:12):
Yeah, I gotta air out the latest scumbag of the week.
United Airlines CEO Scott Kirby had to go and apologize
rightfully so for taking a private jet from New York
area to Denver.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
What do you talk about? Why is this important to you?
Talk about? Not reading the room?
Speaker 9 (34:27):
The United Airlines leading the UH seven days in a
row of canceled flights, seven hundred and fifty canceled flights
on that day that he took this private jet over
three thousand so far, including three of mine.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
You know, Lee's a pretty stuck up guy. I've noticed
that about him.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
He's very snut like, like, oh you want your too
good to like stand in line and bathe with bums, Like,
oh you're too good for that, Holly, Like you can't.
You can't sleep with sewer rats outside an airport or
outside of train station.
Speaker 9 (34:53):
You should see my legs right now. They're riddled with
rat might bites and mosquito bites. Yes, no, uh, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, but yeah, no, Scott Kirby. Uh big, did
you see birds for you?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Did you get your bag yet?
Speaker 9 (35:09):
No, I've been calling. I can't figure out where the
bag's at.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
And your keys are in the bag, my car keys
are in the back, and how many articles of clothing
are in the back?
Speaker 9 (35:18):
All my favorite articles of clothing, my two shorts that
I'm like a cartoon character. I wear the same stuff
over and over again. So my my shorts, my favorite
pair of jeans, my shirts, my best dress shirts with
so I had a wedding this week, so I had
was missing my best dress shirts.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Just all gone.
Speaker 9 (35:35):
It's all gone.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
And they haven't talked to you about like reimbursing you
money or given you.
Speaker 9 (35:40):
Like no, I'm shaking my head right now. No, they
have not talked about that.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I don't get it, man, I don't know how that's
allowed to happen. And just nobody Like I used to
when people would complain on social media about their flights
being delayed, like like famous people, I'd be like, oh God,
here we go another somebody else complaining.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
And then when you see that, the fallout is all
lead to laugh.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Has to show for what happened on his trip to
back East is a bunch of sewer rat mite bites
on his ankles and no clothes and just no cash,
like no, nothing being reimbursed, just gone, that's it.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
No.
Speaker 9 (36:18):
Yeah, I had had to double up and spend a
lot more than we had hoped just to get back home.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Okay, where's the best guess? Like, do you like the
flight that the bag went on? Do you at least
know where that is?
Speaker 9 (36:30):
Well, we had held out hope that we were going
to get it on the last flight out to Los Angeles,
and then that was canceled. They told us the priority
was international bags and that the domestic bags were all
going to be kind of piling up on each other.
So I think that's where it's at right now. Is
basically it's in a big old pile somewhere in Newark,
New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
And nobody can go through there and like look and
maybe try and claim it or like.
Speaker 9 (36:54):
It my right now, I'm like going to the website
and putting in the code, my receipt confirmation code, and
it's not coming up.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Pain in the ass, man. It's so weird how they
pull crap like that. When I lost my bag or
I left an article of clothing. I look like some
jackets on a rack as you hang up on the
plane when you get in there. Because I took a
red ites when this was back in two thousand and
twenty with Super Bowl in Miami, and I remembered that
(37:25):
I left them as I was walking off the plane.
So when I tried to get back to the plane,
they said I can't go back and walk through, and
I said, I left, you know, you know, some stuff
hanging up in the rack there. They said, okay, well
they've already started cleaning the plane. We'll see if they
can find it. And they ended up not coming back
to me. So then I have capt having to go
(37:46):
back to the airport. They're like, well, they'll just bring
it on and they'll put it, you know, in sort
of lost baggage. Just come back later on. I went
back to the airport two or three times while we
were in Miami for super Bowl week and look through
the entire higher place multiple times. Nowhere to be found.
I called the airline multiple times. So what happened to
that stuff? It just disappeared. If somebody got some free
(38:09):
clothes and just like walked away, It's so odd that
they can get away with this stuff.
Speaker 9 (38:14):
Is it like storage wars? They auction it off at
the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
It is the weirdest thing that just that stuff disappears
and we've got no answers, and you don't get reimbursed
for it, like you would assume the airline would say,
you guys went through a lot.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Here, here's two thousand dollars. Let's call it even.
Speaker 9 (38:29):
Here's a fifteen dollars voucher for whatever's in the food court.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
I just, yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
So but you know what, like I said, little parting
gift for the fourth July Holiday sewer rat bite.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
You know who doesn't like a little sewer rat bite.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
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if there's a little bit of resentment going on, you know,
like there's some resentment going on in the NFL. Right,
So there's a couple of things I want you to
hear because it feels like maybe we're not, you know,
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totally lined up around the same page with some stuff.
So Bill Belichick at his postseason press conference talked about
maybe some of the financial restraints that they have as
an organization, just you know what they're spending and whatnot.
And if you remember a couple of years ago, they
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actually were really aggressive and free agency brought a lot
of guys in, you know, Hunter, Henry, Matthew Judon, They
brought in, you know, a bunch of guys to try
and help, you know, add to the roster, add some talent.
It felt like they needed to go in that direction.
And then they found themselves sort of maybe not spending
(02:38):
as much the next year, and then you know, some
of those guys that they brought in, you know, or
we're kind of you know, sent packing or released or
putting another It just like it felt like it was
a little bit odd that they were getting aggressive one
year and then they weren't. That It's just kind of
the way they're spending was a little bit off. But
Belichick and his postseason press conference talked about just this
(03:00):
spending habits of the organization, and some people perceive this
as maybe him complaining or maybe taking a little bit
of dig at Robert Kraft. Let's go back and listen
to Belichick. This is his postseason presser.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Are spending in twenty twenty, are spending in twenty and
twenty one, and are spending in twenty and twenty two.
The aggregate of that was we were twenty seventh in
the league in cast spending. So a couple of years
were low, one year was high, but over a three
year period or one of the lowest spending teams in
(03:32):
the league. So had we averaged that out and in
those three years, you would have had the same numbers.
So whether it's two low and one high, or two
medium or three medium, or two sort of high and
one really low, whatever it is, there's an average that
comes in. So that's the three year average. We're twenty
(03:53):
seventh in the league in cast spending.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
So that was Belichick talking about just where they're at.
So twenty seventh two teams, so you know they're bottom
five when it comes to spending. Now, Belichick kind of,
you know, clarified later on and said, wow, you know,
I wasn't really taking a shot at anybody. That wasn't
my you know, my intent, you know, something along those lines.
But Robert Kraft, the owner of the Patriots, was recently
(04:16):
asked about it, and Greg Bedard, who's been covering the
NFL and the Patriots for a long time, asked him,
and he was on NBC Sports Boston's early edition, and
he relayed the message in return that he got from
Bob Kraft after hearing Belichick's comments.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I just want to quot him accurately.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
He says he has never come to me and not
gotten everything he wanted. From a cash spending perspective, we
have never set limits. And he further went on to
say money spending will never be the issue. I promise you,
or I'll sell the team.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So that seems like a clear denial of no. No, listen,
spending is not the problem here and I'm not and
I don't look the way Greg Bodard kind of painted
that picture. You know, maybe Robert Craft was a little
bit pissy about the fact that Belichick made those comments
or made those complaints, like well, whatever the case may be,
(05:13):
it does bring up a bigger question though. I wonder
if Robert Kraft has some resentment towards Bill Belichick over
the fact that Tom Brady A didn't finish his career
with the Patriots and b not only did he not
(05:33):
finish his career with the Patriots, he went and won
a super Bowl super Bowl somewhere else, and part of
the reason why Belichick moved on from Brady is because
he felt like that was it. It was time he
was washed. We need to go in a different direction.
And I wonder if Robert Craft will ever forgive him
(05:54):
for that.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Ultimately, Robert Craft makes the calls on this stuff, you
would assume, but I wonder if Craft trusted Belichick not
Maybe he didn't choose Belichick over Brady, but I wonder
if he trusted him and said, listen, you have a
great eye for talent. I'm going to put this in
your hands. I'm going to trust that you believe that
(06:18):
Tom Brady has seen better days and that Tom Brady
is done, and you think we're going to go in
a different direction, I'm going to trust you in this
spot to make that call. You're the coach of this team,
you're the de facto general manager. You've been pretty great
about this for a long time. I'm trusting you here
that the greatest player in the history of the franchise,
(06:39):
the greatest player in the history of the game, is finished.
And I'm trusting that you're making the right decision here.
And then Tom Brady goes and wins the Super Bowl
in the COVID year right afterwards.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I wonder.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
If Robert Craft looks at that and goes, damn, that
was the spot.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I shouldn't have trusted him like that was.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
And I wonder if he's ever forgiven Belichick for that,
because those two are, I mean are joined at the hip,
I mean Belichick and like everyone talks about Belichick and
Tom Brady, but Belichick and Craft have been there a
long time. And when Belichick and when Robert Kraft drops,
he well, it's not spending, I'll sell the team. If
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that were the case, He's never come to me and
made those comments. He's never come to me and said that.
I do wonder whether or not there's still some resentment
that still lies over from that relationship going sour between
Belichick and Brady and Belichick feeling like it's over, because
I absolutely believe that if Belichick wanted Brady there for
(07:47):
as long as Brady wanted to play, Tom Brady doesn't
leave to go anywhere else. I don't think he leaves.
I think he would have stayed in New England. I
don't think after that many years with an organization, Brady
would be like, yeah, I just want to go try
something else out. Yeah, I just want to try something
melts out for me, there was clearly an issue there.
There was clearly some sort of headbutting there. You know,
(08:09):
they were at a point in their relationship where they
couldn't work together anymore. And I wonder if Robert Kraft
looks at that and goes, man, you cost us the
ability to write the end of that story. You cost
us that. And then he goes and he wins a
Super Bowl somewhere else, and he was unbelievable, like Tom
(08:32):
Brady's final year. And there was, you know, a conversation
that was out recently where I think it was you know,
Logan Ryan came out recently and said, well, you know,
Brady was dealing with stuff off the field. I think
he was talking with Colin Coward. He was dealing with
stuff off the field. He was dealing stuff on the field.
There was a lot happening that final season and Tom
Brady that final year, it was not the same player.
(08:54):
He wasn't bad, he wasn't awful. He just wasn't the
same player he was the first two seasons in Tampa.
So that's fair. But those first two years in Tampa,
they were fantastic. Tom Brady was awesome, Like you could
argue his second to last year, Tom Brady should have
won the MVP. There were people making the argument Rogers
(09:16):
won it, but there were people say man Brady should
have won MVP. I mean, they nearly pulled off the
comeback to beat the Rams. And then that conversation completely
changes because next thing you know, Tampa Bay's hosting the
NFC title game. Because the Niners beat the Packers at
lambeau Field. Packer fans are so distraught, lead to that
(09:38):
passed out by a fire pit with a Packers helmet
on True story. And I just wonder if Robert Kraft
looks at the whole situation and goes, dude, like, the
one time I needed you not to screw this up,
the one time I was depending on your evaluation and
your ability to read players and know when they're done
and when they're not time, and he couldn't do it.
(10:03):
And it was involving the guy that was the face
of our franchise for years, the player that we identified
we groomed six round pick takes over for Drew Bledsoe.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
That's our guy. We found him.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
We could have had him finish his career here, and
instead you convinced me that it was time for him
to move on. It got to a point to where
he had to leave, and then he goes somewhere else
and he wins a Super Bowl. And I just wonder
if when you hear Belichick make comments about where they're
(10:42):
at spending wise, and Robert Kraft gets aggressive and says, listen,
if spending wherever the case, I would sell the team.
I wonder if every time Belichick pops off or they
come up short, it's a reminder to Robert Kraft that
maybe we wouldn't be in this spot if you would
have made the right call on Tom Brady. And I
(11:03):
just wonder if he never forgives him, Like I don't
come from divorce all right, like I was for my
parents stayed married for you know, the story goes, they met,
got married, I think thirteen days later, and they were
together over fifty years. So I've never gone but I've
heard stories of people talk about divorce to where sometimes
(11:25):
when one parent, you know, decides to leave, that the
child can get caught in the middle and almost resents
the other parent because it feels like that you forced
them to leave.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's your fault.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
They didn't want to stay in this marriage and they
had to move away, and there's some resentment towards it.
And I just wonder if Bob Kraft is sitting there
in this moment, going, dude, you're the reason he left.
And since then, you know, we've been pretty lackluster. We
went and drafted a quarterback in the first round and
(12:00):
that was a little bit of a mess. Last year,
we did make a playoff appearance, but we got blown
out by Buffalo.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Now we're you know, entering this year.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And we're still trying to figure out whether or not
this is the quarterback of the franchise. We went out
and got aggressive and spent a bunch of money, and
yet here you are talking about us being twenty seventh
in the league when it comes to spending. You know,
now we're trying to, you know, convince DeAndre Hopkins to
want to sign here. We signed Juju Smith Schuster and
apparently he's got a knee issue that's still a problem.
(12:34):
Like you know, I mean, you know, maybe Dalvin Cook like,
but like, we're having to do all of this and
I'm trusting you to make all these decisions. Yet the
biggest decision that you made that was your call resulted
in us losing the face of our franchise and him
going and winning a Super Bowl elsewhere. Like I wonder
if Bob Kraft is that child who kind of resents
(12:56):
one pair to the next. It's like, dude, you chase
them away.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
That was you.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
And so every time belichick complains about something or makes
a comment, Robert Craft's kind of like, hey man, I
don't want to hear a damn thing, Like you're the
one that made the call on Brady and you're the
reason he didn't finish his career here, And I just
wonder whether or not that's going to persist for the
remainder of Belichick's time there, if Robert Craft ever gets
over that, because damn, it was pretty quick. They wanted
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to celebrate tom Brady. Tom Brady had announced his retirement
on a beach in Florida, and twenty minutes later, Robert
Craft's like, we're going to celebrate him week one this
upcoming year, Like, okay, I'm gonna give this a little bit,
like the Packers waited like five years to honor Brett Fahr.
But I get at different circumstances. But that was pretty
(13:45):
quick for Robert Kraft to want to, you know, make
sure everybody knows he's a patriot. It struck me as
somebody who maybe never wanted to lose Tom Brady to
begin with. That's how landed to me, and maybe that
resentment is still happening. Jonas Knox were Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio from the tire
Rack dot Com Studios. Again, you can listen to us
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we take you all the way up until nine am
Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. But we do have ourselves
a waiting game in the NFL. Somebody's waiting for something.
They're waiting for something before they make a decision, and
we may now know what the waiting is all about.
We'll have it for you next.
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Jonas knocks with you here by the way, coming up
later on this hour we'll call it about twenty minutes
from now, we are going to have another edition of
the FSRIR.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
We've got some.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Injuries, issues, ailments, things to report in the world of sports,
so we'll and beyond from the entire crew here. So
we'll get into that for you again coming up a
little over twenty minutes from now. So there was some
everybody's been waiting around, Like the two guys that people
are waiting on to make a decision and make a
deal are Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert. One of these
guys going to sign their contract extension because they're going
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to get paid, and you know Cincinnati, he's been kind
of bracing themselves for this. We've talked about this to where,
you know, stadium sponsorship, you know, they didn't normally do that.
You know, now you can gamble in the state of Ohio,
so maybe you know some of that gambling revenue, you know,
throw a sports book in there in the state. Like
whatever they're trying to think of or whatever they're trying
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to do, they're trying to come up with as much
cash as possible because Joe Burrows their guy. It's been
a total success and they'd like to hold on to
him for the next twelve fifteen years and get him paid,
get him locked in, and get the deal done. And
then with Justin Herbert and the Chargers, like he's not
going anywhere. The Chargers have identified he's their franchise quarterback
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and he's going to be our guy moving forward. And
now you're just kind of waiting around. You know, these
are the next two and what are we waiting on?
And they've all talked. Joe Burrow in his camp have said,
and the Cincinnati Bengals have kept it pretty close to
the vest, and everybody's been trying to figure out, all right,
so who's going to be the next one to get
their deal done? Jalen Hurts got paid, Lamar Jackson got paid.
(16:18):
Who's going to be the next one? So this discussion
has been going on in Cincinnati for a little while now,
and people have been trying to figure out whether or
not Joe Burrow's going to go first or Justin Herbert's
going to go first. And apparently there's a thinking behind
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why Joe Burrow may be waiting this according to Paul Danner,
Junior of The Athletic, who said that part of the
delay in Joe Burrow signing his contract is because he's
waiting on Justin Herbert. Now, all of that would make sense.
(17:00):
You want to see what the other guy settles for
and then you can come over the top.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Like all of that makes sense. I totally get it.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
But if it's me, and maybe I'm just playing it
safe and maybe I'm not as you know, ballsy or
gutsy when it comes to finances and things like that.
But if it's me, I'm taking my deal and I'm
not really waiting around for the other guy. Because let's
be based on the structure of the contract, you could
probably come back in a couple of years and then
redo it again, like Aaron Rodgers when he got his
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deal done years ago. All of a sudden, you look
back a couple of years later and Rodgers was like,
you know, kind of low on the list when it
comes to quarterbacks making money.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
And then they redid it and he's.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Getting what fifty million a year from the Packers and
now onto the Jets.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
You're just going to redo the deal.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
Anyways, after a couple of years, you would think that's
why Patrick Mahomes there's been speculation about what they're going
to do with his contract or Josh Allen or some
of these guys. But Joe Burrow waiting around potentially for
Justin Herbert to get his deal done. I mean, you know,
if I'm Burrow, first of all, he's done more than
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Justin Herbert as I mean, Justin Herbert's got all the
potential and all the promise in the world. But Joe
Burrow's actually taking his team to a super Bowl. You
could argue maybe they should have won that Super Bowl.
He took him to an AFC title game. He's completely
turned around the entire franchise. Like they've gone from disaster
(18:34):
trying to recover from Andy Dalton. Is Zach Taylor going
to get fired? Do they regret firing Marvin Lewis, etc.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Etc. Etc.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
And now they're one of the teams in the NFL
that you look at and go, yeah, that's a legitimate
Super Bowl contender. I mean, they've ruined the Buffalo Bills,
Like Buffalo's not been the same since that playoff game.
Stefan Diggs doesn't know whether or not he wants to
be on the team anymore. He you know, fighting with somebody.
Is it Josh Allen, Is it the head coach like
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what Cincinnati's. They've completely changed the course of the AFC
for at least one franchise, So Joe Burrow's their guy,
like Justin Herbert. Yeah, I mean he's still got, you know,
things he needs to accomplish, like winning a playoff game
and all the other fun stuff. So he's gonna get paid.
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But Joe Burrow definitely deserves to get paid. And if
he's waiting around for Justin Herbert, me personally, I'm getting
my deal done. I'm not waiting for anybody. If he
ends up being making more money than me the first
couple of years of the deal and I got to
go back after year three or four and redo the
contract with Cincinnati, then I'll do that. But the idea
that he's waiting around for Justin I would get my
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deal done. And on top of that, and this sort
of gets lost in the shuffle. Joe Burrow suffered a
pretty nasty knee injury his first year that cut his
rookie season short, where he tore a couple of ligaments.
And to I give anybody knows the mortality of your
NFL career, Joe Burrow suffered a devastating knee injury year one.
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You would think that would be somebody who doesn't want
to take any chances and wants to go and get
a deal done. It's why wohend Lamar Jackson was playing
the game with the Baltimore Ravens trying to get his
contract done. I'm thinking to myself, dude, you've had your career.
You know mortality stare your scoring in the eyes a
couple of times already. You're a mobile quarterback, You've suffered,
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You've been banged up and injured multiple times in your career.
Why would you not want to get a deal done now?
I play it safe, all right. When we talk about
betting on sports legitimately, and I'm not making this up.
When I complain about bets that I lose, they're five
and ten dollars. I don't have the guts to bet
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significant money on a game because it'll drive me nuts.
Because I can remember being a bus boy at TG
Fridays and betting a one hundred dollars parlay. It was
I think Lebron James's rookie year. I want to say
maybe it was first or second year they were playing
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the Orlando Magic. This is how long ago it was
It was when Tracy McGrady was on the Orlando Magic
and I had a two team parlay. I had the
Calves minus two and a half, or I had the
Calves plus two.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
And a half and I had the under.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
So the over under was like two hundred and two
to oh one something like that, and Cleveland had a
one hundred to ninety seven lead. So on a parlay,
you need both of those to hit in order to
get paid, and I bet one hundred dollars on it.
It would have paid out two sixty. Cleveland had a
one hundred to ninety seven lead. So not only am
I winning my my plus two and a half because
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I'm getting two and a half points and they're up
by three, not only am I covering that, but as
it stands right now, the totals at one ninety seven,
about to hit the under, and Tracy McGrady shoots a
three at the buzzer and gets fouled, misses the shot,
but goes to the free throw line and hits all
three free throws. And I'm standing with a bus tub
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in my hand, a squirt bottle hanging off my apron,
holding on to some paper towels. I'm about to wipe
down a party of eight from thinking to myself, I
just work this entire shift for free, one hundred dollars gone,
man up and vanished like.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
A fart in the wind.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Okay, I've been scarred ever since that, and that happened
like twenty years ago. So when it comes to financial
risk taking, I don't take any chances. And if I'm
Joe Burrow, I'm not waiting around for Justin Herbert and
the Chargers to figure out whether or not they want
to get a deal done. And I'm definitely not waiting
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around to play football any longer, especially after I suffered
a devising injury a couple of years ago. Go to
the table, figure out what it is. Maybe you'll make
a little bit less than some of these other guys,
but then you come back in a couple of years
after there's more revenue in the sport and TV deals
get bigger and the Bengals make more money, and then
you can redo the contract. Then me, personally, I'm the
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All right, two pros and a cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio again, we're gonna have the FSRIR
coming up here. We'll call it about twelve minutes from
now here from those tire rack dot Com studios. Hey
look another strike in downtown La. Well, it's like every
day there's like some sort of worker strike, Like every day.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
I just I don't.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I mean, look, you drive into the studio here, there's
the Sherman Oaks Gallery for people listening across the country
all right to just see you understand where the studio
is located, these tire rack dot Com studios.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
It's right off the freeway, so you get right off the.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Freeway and then you know, you go, you hang a
right or depending on where you're coming from, and then
it's right across from this giant shopping center called the
Sherman Oaks Galleria. And I believe that's the where they
filmed the move. Was it Fast Time a Ridgemont High Lee.
That's the movie that was filmed there.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
That is true. I still have never seen it. I
don't know, it's right.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I just I've never said I don't know why, But
if you come here to the studio on a Saturday,
I don't remember the last time that I didn't see
some sort of a protest or somebody on strike. I
swear to god, I don't remember the last time that happened.
And I don't know when this all started, if it
was you know, COVID or if it was you know,
(25:33):
people were tied, you know, they needed to be outdoors
or whatever the case may be. But it just feels
like there's a writers strike. Now, there's some hotel workers strike,
and just feel like everybody like there's some sort of
a strike going on at all times. So that's one thing.
Here's the other thing. I love how people aren't happy
with just one day. They got to spread everything out.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
It's like you ever talk to somebody who celebrates like
a burday weekend or a birthday month. Like there's some
people that are like, oh my god, it's my birthday month.
All right, your birthday's on the thirtieth. We're doing this
for four weeks. Really like you do, it's my birthday week. No,
you get a birthday. You don't get birthdays, right. It's
(26:17):
not like when you know your your mom was going
through the process at like eleven forty five at night.
Oh we see that. Here comes all right, so okay
that the head is out. Everything is safe so far,
and the mom said, okay, we hold on a second,
give me like another twenty minutes.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I want to make sure my child can have a
couple of birthdays here.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
It's gonna be we'll do we'll do the just the
head and upper torso, and then we'll do the legs,
you know, when it passed midnight, so that way we
can get two birthdays going on here.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
It's really important. Let's go ahead and spread this stuff out.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
It's like these people that go, oh, it's my birthday month,
my birthday week. It's starting to bleed over into fourth
of July. I have noticed, because you bastards, you're just
not content with fireworks on the fourth of July.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
No no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
It's got to start on the first, the second, the third,
it's gonna be the fifth, it's gonna be the sixth.
Then you're gonna have some left over. You're gonna fire
those off on the seventh. Like enough's enough, just stop,
all right. Dogs don't like it. It freaks kids out
and it's not cool. Like there's people in my neighborhood
(27:31):
that are lighting off like mortar bombs, Like what do
we It's like a Sunday night at six pm and
they're lighting off mortar bombs. Well, it's fourth of July season. No, no,
it's just fourth of July. It's not an entire season.
It's not a week, it's not a month. It's just
a day. And the day generally goes like this. People
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wake up, they prep their food, they have an early cocktail.
They they throw the food, you know, on the grill.
If they're smoking something, it's got to sit there for
a significant amount of time. Then maybe you'll go swimming,
then maybe you run around and play. You'll watch some baseball,
have a couple of more beers, this and that, and
(28:13):
then at the end of the night, then the fireworks start.
And then maybe after the fireworks, you'll have a couple
of more cocktails and your roast some marshmallows.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
And it's cool. Every dingy like it.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Just it seems like there's a process here. It's like
a six or seven step process. But that's not good enough,
because ua hole has got to light off fireworks all
week long. I don't know when that started. I don't
know when everybody started to get greedy. But you should
be ashamed of yourself, all right, buy the proper amount
(28:43):
of fireworks so you don't feel like you got to
spread these out over the course of several days and
just let them, let them blow off on fourth of
July and then we move on with our lives. But
it's not gonna happen today. What is gonna happen. They're
gonna fire more off coming up later on today. And
I'm telling you, mark my words, July fifth, right when
you think it's a work week, now we can focus
on getting our stuff done, some clown is going to
(29:07):
fire off some sort of a mortar bomb or a
piccolo pete in your mailbox because they're too drunk, because
they got a cooler of beer left over from the holiday,
and they want to make sure that they get all
this stuff out of their system because they want to
be able to focus on Labor Day. I'm telling you
right now, it's going to happen. Just get ready. That's
what fourth of July is turned into. That and that
slob Joey Chestnuts shoving food in his mouth in front
(29:29):
of thousands of people on TV. All right, two pros
and a cup of joe Here. Fox Sports Radio Jonas
Knox with you hear coming up next. Though, we do
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you know other stuff weekend and it's yours here on
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This is where we report any issues, injuries, ailments, problems
that pop up over the course of the weekend.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
So who's got what? Who wants to go first? Eddie Garcia,
you got one?
Speaker 7 (31:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (31:30):
I don't know if this counts or not because it
actually didn't happen to me. But I played Beer League
hockey here in southern California. I've played for like twenty years,
and I'm not any good, but it's fun. For the
first time in all the games I've ever played, I
saw two guys drop the gloves, square off really and
(31:52):
have an honest to god hockey fight. Yeah, the rolling hands,
bloody knuckles, the revs let them go. We all just
stood there and watched him. We're like, holy crab, I.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Can't believe that.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
It was a seriously good fight. Like one of the
guy's jerseys got practically ripped off his body, and uh,
I was like, Wow, all the years I've played, I
don't know how many games I've played, I've never I've
seen guys getting mad at each other, pushing.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Even I've shoved.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
Some guy in the face.
Speaker 8 (32:22):
You know, we're wearing bird cage masks and stuff like that.
But I've never seen two guys just literally say let's
go square, like like the NHL players, drop the gloves,
grab older each other and just start teeing off at
each other. How old are these guys, like ballpark I'm
guessing the early thirties and just throwing down.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
Yeah, and they're both pretty big guys, like six to two.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
It was like, were they cool afterwards they got there, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
That's the funny part.
Speaker 8 (32:49):
So you know, they they said they kicked him out
of the game, and so they go off and the
locker rooms and these you know, little coal rinksters right
next to each other so we're looking as the game's
getting ready to Brazil, and they're walking towards each other
like there's nobody there. They're gonna go again. Nope, they
like hug each other.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
See that, Like that's the good thing about hockey players.
They seem like they get well. I think most seem
like they get over it pretty quick.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (33:17):
Plus they were way too tired to go again. They
were exhausted.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
It's uh man, I don't know if I'm trying to
think like all the times I've ever played like a
pickup game, if I ever saw anybody legitimately throw down,
I don't think I have.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
I said it, like I said, it was a first
for me.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
That's great.
Speaker 7 (33:35):
I've seen people get mad.
Speaker 8 (33:36):
I've seen people, you know, do some stuff, but never
literally you know, just like you see on TV back.
Speaker 7 (33:41):
In the day.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Now, why did they get a game misconduct though it's
just a fight.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
Well, it's because this isn't the.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
NHL okay, But I feel like there needs to be
a rules commissioner there. Somebody's got to step in, Like
those guys have a claim against the league. Now they
got a game misconduct for fighting. There was no high
stick or blatant.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
They also got two gay suspensions automatic two games.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Really yeah, so who's making the calling?
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (34:08):
All right, that's fantastic, Lee to lab you got anything?
Speaker 9 (34:12):
Yeah, I gotta air out the latest scumbag of the week.
United Airlines CEO Scott Kirby had to go and apologize
rightfully so for taking a private jet from New York
area to Denver.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
What do you talk about? Why is this important to you?
Talk about? Not reading the room?
Speaker 9 (34:27):
The United Airlines leading the UH seven days in a
row of canceled flights, seven hundred and fifty canceled flights
on that day that he took this private jet over
three thousand so far, including three of mine.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
You know, Lee's a pretty stuck up guy. I've noticed
that about him.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
He's very snut like, like, oh you want your too
good to like stand in line and bathe with bums, Like,
oh you're too good for that, Holly, Like you can't.
You can't sleep with sewer rats outside an airport or
outside of train station.
Speaker 9 (34:53):
You should see my legs right now. They're riddled with
rat might bites and mosquito bites. Yes, no, uh, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry, but yeah, no, Scott Kirby. Uh big, did
you see birds for you?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Did you get your bag yet?
Speaker 9 (35:09):
No, I've been calling. I can't figure out where the
bag's at.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
And your keys are in the bag, my car keys
are in the back, and how many articles of clothing
are in the back?
Speaker 9 (35:18):
All my favorite articles of clothing, my two shorts that
I'm like a cartoon character. I wear the same stuff
over and over again. So my my shorts, my favorite
pair of jeans, my shirts, my best dress shirts with
so I had a wedding this week, so I had
was missing my best dress shirts.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Just all gone.
Speaker 9 (35:35):
It's all gone.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
And they haven't talked to you about like reimbursing you
money or given you.
Speaker 9 (35:40):
Like no, I'm shaking my head right now. No, they
have not talked about that.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I don't get it, man, I don't know how that's
allowed to happen. And just nobody Like I used to
when people would complain on social media about their flights
being delayed, like like famous people, I'd be like, oh God,
here we go another somebody else complaining.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
And then when you see that, the fallout is all
lead to laugh.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Has to show for what happened on his trip to
back East is a bunch of sewer rat mite bites
on his ankles and no clothes and just no cash,
like no, nothing being reimbursed, just gone, that's it.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
No.
Speaker 9 (36:18):
Yeah, I had had to double up and spend a
lot more than we had hoped just to get back home.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Okay, where's the best guess? Like, do you like the
flight that the bag went on? Do you at least
know where that is?
Speaker 9 (36:30):
Well, we had held out hope that we were going
to get it on the last flight out to Los Angeles,
and then that was canceled. They told us the priority
was international bags and that the domestic bags were all
going to be kind of piling up on each other.
So I think that's where it's at right now. Is
basically it's in a big old pile somewhere in Newark,
New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
And nobody can go through there and like look and
maybe try and claim it or like.
Speaker 9 (36:54):
It my right now, I'm like going to the website
and putting in the code, my receipt confirmation code, and
it's not coming up.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Pain in the ass, man. It's so weird how they
pull crap like that. When I lost my bag or
I left an article of clothing. I look like some
jackets on a rack as you hang up on the
plane when you get in there. Because I took a
red ites when this was back in two thousand and
twenty with Super Bowl in Miami, and I remembered that
(37:25):
I left them as I was walking off the plane.
So when I tried to get back to the plane,
they said I can't go back and walk through, and
I said, I left, you know, you know, some stuff
hanging up in the rack there. They said, okay, well
they've already started cleaning the plane. We'll see if they
can find it. And they ended up not coming back
to me. So then I have capt having to go
(37:46):
back to the airport. They're like, well, they'll just bring
it on and they'll put it, you know, in sort
of lost baggage. Just come back later on. I went
back to the airport two or three times while we
were in Miami for super Bowl week and look through
the entire higher place multiple times. Nowhere to be found.
I called the airline multiple times. So what happened to
that stuff? It just disappeared. If somebody got some free
(38:09):
clothes and just like walked away, It's so odd that
they can get away with this stuff.
Speaker 9 (38:14):
Is it like storage wars? They auction it off at
the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
It is the weirdest thing that just that stuff disappears
and we've got no answers, and you don't get reimbursed
for it, like you would assume the airline would say,
you guys went through a lot.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Here, here's two thousand dollars. Let's call it even.
Speaker 9 (38:29):
Here's a fifteen dollars voucher for whatever's in the food court.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
I just, yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
So but you know what, like I said, little parting
gift for the fourth July Holiday sewer rat bite.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
You know who doesn't like a little sewer rat bite.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
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