October 29, 2025 • 40 mins
Jonas and LaVar explain why the NCAA allowing student athletes to bet on professional sports is very clearly a terrible idea. The Dolphins are finally giving their fans some good news. Plus, the latest edition of The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly!
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I want to throw at somebody here whoever put the
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She loves to put those in there. Ours is pumpkins
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this morning. It's a nice talking spice.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, listen, there's nothing better than
pumpkins spice.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I know that now you're no longer is you longer.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
You're no longer willing to uh to give the the
pumpkin spice I got you. Yeah try Yeah, the sugar
free kind of kind of ruined it right at the
non sugar Yeah yeah, listen, uh, bree, nice job. I
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don't remember the name of it, but yeah, burst, you
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know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, it's like Cedar would. Yeah,
it's very nice. Now here's something that I think that
I actually don't know what people were thinking when they
when they implemented this. To be honest with you, this
is kind of flown under the radar because everybody's been
so wrapped up in the NBA betting scandal. But last week,
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the NCAA's Division one cabinet approved a rule change to
allow college athletes to bet on professional sports, and Division
two and Division three management councils also signed off on it,
allowing it to go into effect this coming Saturday. NCAA
athletes are still prohibited from betting on college sports and
sharing information about college sports with betters. Betting sites also
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aren't allowed to advertise or sponsor NCAA championships, So like,
all right, listen, we don't want to sponsor your championships.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
But all these athletes feel free.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
To give it a whirl, all right, you know, spin
the chamber and see what happens on some of these
betting apps. Now, Greg Sankie, the SEC commissioner, he asked
the NCAA to rescind the pending rule change that will
allow athletes and the athletic department staff members to bet
on professional sports coming this Saturday. According to a copy
of a memo obtained by ESPN, pat Nardoozi, the head
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coach of pitt He also aired his thoughts on this
new rule and allowing college athletes to bet on professional sports,
and he said this.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I'm not a gambler, so I just don't understand it.
You know, I'm not addicted to anything. I just don't
think it's a great thing to teach our young people
how to do. You know, it's hard enough in the
compliance office of trying to get your guys not to gamble.
You can gamble on a boxing match. You can gamble,
you know, on horse races because it's on an NCAA sport.
But who's gambling on horse races really? I mean unless
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you go to the you know, the horse track. But
now we're you know, just you know, it's a thing
on your phone and you can pick it up and
you can get get on an app and it's like
what are we doing? Like and once you do it
once and you win, you want to go do it again.
It becomes an addiction. I just think it's it's not good.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
So, uh, that was paton Ardoozy airing his concerns about
college athletes being allowed to gamble on professional sports starting Saturday.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
That just seems interesting. Uh, it's it's a topic that
was being discussed, debated obviously, you know, fought over who
who was a part of these conversations that led to
the conclusion of being that these young men and women
at the collegiate level should be allowed to partake in
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sports betting at you know, the pro level. That would
be what my first question would be.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
It's also interesting that they're like, look, they can bet
on professional sports, do not bet on college sports. They
do realize that when you go on your DraftKings app,
it's just like one little tabaway.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I just don't understand why there is even the conversation
of it being a compromise, you know what I mean, Like,
it just seems like that's so out of place. It's
so out of place, like even like, and take this
into consideration, more often than not, a junior, a senior,
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a rid shirt junior, rid shirt senior help sometimes a
red shirt sophomore are twenty one years old, and I
think it's inappropriate for college students, college student athletes to
endorse liquor, but I don't think that they should be
endorsing that. So what about stick c any longer? I
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don't think that they should be endorsing it. And so
to me, when you're talking about something like gambling, that
one is I mean how I view gambling on sports
as as something that certainly you have to want to do,
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Like that's something like a casual person like yeah, here
and there. You can find cases of people who casually
go on to these sites. But for the most part,
if you're downloading one of these these gambling sites, you're gambling.
And so I just don't I don't feel like opening
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up that door and saying, oh, there's an exception here.
Don't bet on college because you're here, but you can
bet on pros because you're not there. I just I
think that's poor judgment. I don't I don't understand how
morally speaking, how that makes sense. It almost comes across
as the agenda of what of what sports betting represents.
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It's bigger sports betting, what they what the consumer presents.
Even at the college level with the active athletes, it
presents the opportunity to increase the bottom line. And I
think that that's that's a tap bit like.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Off putting, like here's what, here's what I love about
it that I don't get it. I don't understand why
anybody thought that this was a great idea. That being said,
I'm saying, why should it even be at all? Right,
So like let's like let's have a call, like let's
throw out possible reasons as to why they thought that
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this was appropriate. Maybe because they're like, well, look, I
mean they're getting nil money now, so if we can
make a few bucks off them, why not, Like let's
not turn down any business. Like I'm being sick because
I don't understand any of you grew up. Maybe they
grew up in a casino. Maybe their family members were
a part of sports question and casinos. And I swear
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to God, like I'm saying all of this and laughing,
I'm not joking.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Like maybe there.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Is some element of well, look, I mean, you know
they're being paid now, well let's treat them like adults,
like let's uh, you have that you have the right
to go in there. Or maybe they're trying to snuff
some of these people out, like hey, you know, we
gotta we got to figure out, you know, in real
time right now, who we can trust, who we can't,
and let's start, you know, going down that road. But
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it is interesting that they just randomly decided, you know
what's starting November first, feel free, like everybody, go ahead
and and give it a whirl and go gamble on
professional sports.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
If you're if you're a college athlete. It's just it
seems like it's crowbard almost to an agenda.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Almost like you're trying to bait some people into doing
some stuff like oh, here we go, like let's let's
throw this in there and see, uh see who takes
the who takes the bait on this?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Like let's be real here, right, you you go on
to the site, you start seeing the lines and stuff
like that, it's right there, It's right there in front
of you. Bro.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
It's like putting a bottle of vodka in an AA
meeting next to the cookies and being like, all right,
let's see.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Let's see who's serious about this, Like, let's see. I
get less unless you told me that they had a
site that was specifically for athletes in college that did
not show any college sports on that site, on that app,
And even then I'd be like, yeah, but you're still
feeding feeding something that could be like a gateway to
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them going on to another site and and doing just that.
But again, I've always come to the conclusion, this has
always been my conclusion on sports betting. Why do you
do it? Why why do you do it? Like if
you're if you're going to to enjoy me? What I'm
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saying is like, why why do you why do you
log in? Why do you place the bets? Why do
you collect the money? And I get it that it's
a it's you know, it's a pastime. What's what's your
motivation And why wouldn't you just like, oh, like I
can get my fix by telling you like I would me,
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I would bet on this game, and I go this route,
I take the over unders on that boom, and I
can get my if I'm going to get a rush
off of the get the bet, I can get that
off of somebody who really does it and saying yeah,
do this. It's it's also you know what I mean,
like why are you directly doing it? Like That's what
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I've never understood.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Here's also the part of this that I don't think
because look, I think this is awesome.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Have somebody else do it that's what I want to say.
I try to do it, be like about it. But
why would you just have somebody else cour say? And
you could have always done that, and people probably did.
I think this is air just to see what's going
to happen next, and I'm all about the chaos. I'm
all about what's going to be the better story for
the radio show. I mean, you know, hey, listen, not
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trying to hope for negativity, but if it's presented and
there's a bad ending to all this, I'm in like.
I think that's more entertaining and it's more fun to discuss.
The part about the Terry Rozier NBA story and the
NBA story that I think ties into this is the
real issue that they had was the fact that people
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were giving away information about status of players health and
whether or not they were going to.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Be partaking in upcoming games, most notably Lebron James and
the Damon Jones story. Damon Jones was tipping people off
to Lebron's not playing in this game Hammred.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
The Milwaukee Bucks at the time.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
You mean to tell me that none of these college
players like and I'm not saying this would ever happened.
But just for example, the well, like they just played
with these guys. Like if you're if you're Jackson Darts
teammate at ole Miss and he's starting for the Giants,
you don't think Jackson Darts aware of who's playing and
who's not in the upcoming Giants game. And so all
of a sudden, somebody from ole Miss says, hey, man,
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is such and such going to be playing? Like what
are we looking at it as?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Now?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
We're gonna go run heavy on this. There are props
you can do for rushing yards, passing yards. He's the
quarterback of that team. He's probably still got friends that
are at ole Miss. They could hit him up.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And that's here's the thing. Who's to say that's just
not a normal regular conversation.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yes, and it's not even there's no ill intent, Like
there's no he's just like, man, like, how's it going
up there?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
What's going I don't know?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Man?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
This week, you know coach coach is playing it so.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Guard a tackle down. You can bet on all that
we're going to We're probably going to this week. You like,
just like tie it together. Hey, for some reason, you know,
we get a we get a lot of ole Miss
players that are betting on Giants games.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Like for some reason they're betting the the over under
on passing and rushing yards and the Giants games.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I don't know what it is. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Maybe it's because they played with the Giants starting quarterback
last year and now they can gamble on those games
like like it is. To Nardoozi's credit, Pat Nardoozy said it,
I think it's a bad idea. You're right, and that's
what makes it awesome, because somehow, some way, this.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Is gonna blow up in their face. And I don't
get it. I just don't understand. Why wouldn't you call
it your your your friend in New York City or
in California, or in Wyoming or Montana, Yes, and tell
them to place the bet and then you get the
money off of them. I'll never understand why you would
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directly connect yourself to doing bets that you have, what
you would say, air quotes and sad information too. So
this is how it used to be done. What's that
to stop you from doing it for yourself? Agreed? Agreed,
like it. There's no way to really fully regulate the
rules of engagement of how all of this works.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
So I probably shouldn't. Well, no, I'll just I'll air
this out.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
So how it used to go back in the day
because I knew a guy that would handle gambling, and
basically what he would do is because if you had
information on certain sporting events, you couldn't You didn't want
to load up heavy on an event or something like that,
because all of a sudden it would flag people and
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people would catch wind of the fact that, oh, this
is well, there's a lot of action coming on in
this one spot, on this one player in this one game.
What's happening here? And next thing you know, you can't
gamble at that casino. And that happens in Vegas all
the time. Dana White, who's a notorious blackjack player, isn't
allowed at the Palms casino because he won too much
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money off them. They're not looking to get done over.
They're looking to do the doing over of people. That's
why they the Vegas looks the way that looks. So
what you would do back in the day is if
you wanted to bet one hundred thousand dollars on a
sporting event, a result like whatever it was, instead of
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betting one hundred thousand dollars at let's say, you know,
the MGM Grand Sportsbook, you would take ten thousand dollars
and you would go bet it at ten different places,
so that that way it wouldn't look so out of
the ordinary that there would be a bunch of money
coming in. Well, theoretically, if you wanted to take that
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same approach, you didn't really need the app to go
ahead and do that. If you're a professional athlete and
you've got information, you could hit up some guy and say, hey,
take some cash, go to Caesar's bet on this result,
and then we'll split the winnings. There's no paper trail,
there's no you're not on it. Like this stuff is
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always existed, but now they're making it so easy for
people to get into that world and get caught up
in some stuff that maybe they're not even really fully
aware that they're doing anything wrong. Like all those NFL
players Calvin Ridley and Jamison Williams and all those guys
that got suspended, and Ridley got suspended for a year,
Calvin Ridley was just sitting at home, he was away
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from the team, and was like, uh, yeah, I'm gonna
bet on my team and I'm gonna bet on six
other teams in a parlay and see what happens, not
even thinking, oh, by the way, you're going to be
suspended for a year if you do that. He didn't
even win either, whole think he won, and there weren't
even big bets like these. Look, they're not big bets.
And I could, like, again, like, it's no to me.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I'm not a gambler, so I could be totally off
base for this, but I feel like it's no different
than fantasy football or fantasy whatever sport name it. Like
you you predict, you say this is what it's going
to be, and you're rewarded if you're right, and you
lose if you're wrong. It's pretty simple, right, So if
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you're sitting there and like you said, and you're watching
and you're spectating, like I would assume for the people
who gamble, it makes this watching the games more interesting,
intensifies the experience of doing it because you have more
of a vested interests literally, an invested interest and what
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happens during the course of that game. Some people it's
almost like, you know, isn't that why they came up
with espresso. Like some people got used to coffee, and
coffee didn't keep them up as well as it should have.
So now enter in a stronger version of the coffee. Right,
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then you get a cafecito and you see what I'm saying. Right,
It's like at some point it's like you're it's like
this isn't it's not just good enough for me to
sit here and watch it? No, or it's not just
good enough for me to sit here and play fantasy
football with it, Like I want some I need something
to heighten my experience. Need some juice. That's human nature.
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Need some juice, that's that's human nature. And what you're
doing by saying these these young men and women athletes
in college, what you're saying is is that we're going
to acclimate you and onboard you to something that maybe
you've already been doing, something that you might be curious
about doing, you know, pique your interest, get you involved,
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and now we have converted uh and have penetrated a
different market. Legally, you've legally penetrated a younger demographic. It's
the only bananas. I mean, if you if you really
think about it, like if you if you take a
deeper dive into it and say, why is this even
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a conversation? I mean, it's legal for the rest of
the student body to gamble as much as they want
to gamble, and they're and they're and they're probably friends
with those guys. So now you're talking about implementing an
influencer an influencer driven concept. Why are they allowed to
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to to bet on on pros? Because if they're allowed
to bet on pros, then they'll probably be telling their
friends in and around in and around campus, like what
they're betting on, what they're doing, dot this, that, and
the other. They're like, what are you doing? You know?
And maybe that grows their their presence within a college
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demographic of people. If you looked at what sports betting,
what they're going after demo wise, I think that would
tell you the story. That would tell you the story
that maybe one of the penetration points that they've been
trying to figure out might be that age of a demographic,
which is the college level of age grew.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
And it's and it's it's gotten bigger and bigger. And look,
part of it was during COVID, I mean, people were
looking for anything to Hey, listen, man, I bet on
a horse race in Japan, okay, like and they were
running backwards and the guys had masks on, I swear,
and that is a true story.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
So I am guilty as anybody of all this.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
But like a lot of that took place during COVID
because it was like, well, the ufcson own by the way,
you can gamble on this stuff, sweet, like like that's
where this started picking up. And if you go back
a little bit further than that, it wasn't that long ago.
I think it was around twenty fifteen. It might have
been a little bit maybe even later than that, to
where Tony Romo wanted to hold a fantasy football convention
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in Las Vegas, and Roger Goodell in the NFL told
him no, because we don't want to partner with anything
that would be somewhat close to gambling. And look where
we're at now to where now it's ay, anybody wants
some action here, like hey, college athletes, go bet on
some professional sports on guys that you might have relationships with,
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because we didn't have just a problem with that with
the NBA and any sort of insider trading or like
the whole thing This is like a wife getting her
husband a hooker for his birthday and then being like,
what do you mean you fooled around? Like all right,
what do you mean? How could you if you're putting
this in their hands. I'm not gonna be overly critic
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goal when stuff like this pops off or there's an issue,
just saying to patn our Doozy's credit and as we've
laid out, do not be surprised if something funky happens
like this. This just feels like they're setting yourself up
for something.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
That obviously a setup. It's it's obviously not there's nothing
positive about that. Like something should probably stay, you know,
like it just shouldn't be available.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Like if your son called you up and was like, hey, Dad,
I'm betting on Abdul's over under sack total for this.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
What do you think of this?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
You'd probably be like, wait what wait, wait.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
What do you mean? You know how long I paid
your bills for brouh keep your money in your bank account? Damn.
That is crazy, though, That is crazy to think like
college athletes being able to just gamble. Yeah, now with
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that being said, I again, I played blackjack when I
was in college, not much, not often, But I did
play blackjack, you know what I mean, Like I gambled,
well you counting cards and wearing. I wasn't a I've
never been a degenerate gambler though, So but I'm just saying.
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I'm saying you shouldn't be able to gamble and bet.
But I was playing blackjack in college. Like if I
went somewhere on like spring break or whatever, and they
had a casino, I'd go play. I go play blackjack,
some hands of blackjack. Now, if I'm looking at it
from that casual perspective, is it so wrong? Like if
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you're playing Devil's Advocate to it? Is it so wrong
to say, Hey, you know I bet on I bet
on this football game. I'm a fan of the team,
or you know, I feel like I'm good at, you know,
predicting games and stuff like that. I want to I
want to throw a couple of dollars. Now, I mean,
how how out of control? That is crazy? How that
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is crazy? That Black and Drag is black and Drack?
Is I've seen sound as Black and Drag?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
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Speaker 2 (24:21):
I've seen of our Black and Drag?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Somebody eyed LeVar and I for Black and drag and
they actually got our faces on that.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
That's disturbed. I'm gonna have to see this one. That's disturbing.
It's actually upsetting it really. Is it too good or
is it terrifying? I'm not that tan, It's just I'm
so mad at them for that. All right, I'm done
with My point is Oh my god? All right?
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Speaker 1 (26:06):
If you want to see the uh AI generated picture
of Black and drac I reposted it on my ex
account at the Jonas Knox. You can go see for yourself.
It's ridiculous. It is well done and disturbing at the
same time. It's really weird. I don't know how they
took like the ai generated photo. And by the way,
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what is what do you think they're searching when they
put that together. I don't like if you go on
CROC and you just go give me a picture of
a black guy and a really pale guy who might
look like Dracula at a cemetery and they just spit
that out.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I'm just curious as to what you're looking at. What
are you looking at in the picture exactly? Because I'm I'm, I'm,
I'm like, at least I'm looking into the camera. U
If you are looking off in like like you're looking
at one of the gravestones, don't. Yeah, it looks like
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lonely in there, like you're looking at a potential victim,
like somebody that already victimized.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Any blood letting left and that, right. I definitely look focused, though,
I swear. I told the rain of this I have
that jacket.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
He literally said that, can you wear it tomorrow? No,
it's just yeah, I don't want to bring out the
good stuff here, baby, I don't have that chain. I
don't have that shirt. I don't have that. You wouldn't
wear any of that. I mean I would wear a
shirt like that, but and I would rocket chain and
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a watch like that. I mean, I hate that it
looks as much like me as it does. I really do.
I think it sucks. But whatever, Well, good job, buddy,
good job. I know that.
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said it. Look it's a it's a wild idea, but
I think it's going to have a wild ending. And
uh and I'm into it. You want to college athletes
to be able to bet on pro sports, go right ahead,
let's see what happens. We're gonna have the good, the bad,
the ugly coming up here in about twelve minutes from now.
Speaking of some good news, Look, I know there's a
lot of people out there that are, like, man, everybody's
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trying to gouge us these days. You know, nobody, nobody's
looking out for the fan, nobody's doing right by us.
Like people have been complaining about how much it costs
to go to a World Series game, Like it's just
a ridiculous amount of money. If you're a Dodgers fan
or a Blue Jays fan, you want to get out
to these games. But we do have some good news.
Somebody in the NFL cares and that's somebody is the
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awful Miami Dolphins, who, according to Chris Perkins of the
South Florida Sentinel, what they care about. Some ticket prices
will actually decrease next season for Dolphins fans next season,
and some fans that purchase club seats for the season
will receive a two hundred and fifty dollars food and
beverage credit. That's what I'm talking about right there, there.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
You go, Miami.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Is that every game? Yeah, they get a voucher for
every game for if it happened once, maybe that's a bit.
Happen twice, maybe that's enough.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
But it is kind of interesting that while everybody nowadays
is raising prices on everything, the Dolphins are like, listen,
we're not going to insult you any longer. We've already
put out a bad product. We're probably gonna have a
new head coach next year. We've basically been selling off
pieces a little bit at a time. This year has
not gone well. Our quarterbacks thrown everybody under the bus
to it. By the way, woke up before the game
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against the Falcons with his eyes swollen shut and nobody
knows why. Last check was his teammates snuck in his
room and beat his ass like full metal jacket, wrapped
up a bar soap and put it in the sock
swelled his swelled his eyes right on up. What is this?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
It's a jelly donut private pile. And they just smoked
him all he was safe ass Nah, they didn't rolled
up on him real quiet. Oh, only take like a
little little like one little sock to the app bam,
like it's it rap swelled up both.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
But if you're a Dolphins fan, at least you're like,
you know what, Yeah, we're not very good. It appears
the Patriots are the goods. It appears that the Buffalo
Bills are going to be here for a while. But
you know, if you are playing the Jets and you
know that's probably going to be a win, at least
you can go and it's not going to cost you
as much as it would if you want to get
I only got their first win.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Sometimes once you get that first win, you know, things
change and you start to see a difference there. You
know that first one is the hardest one to get.
Now you start to have a little bit more belief
in what it is that you can do. So it's
there's the possibility that the Jets could be better moving forward.
They have players, They have players. Now, I don't expect
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them to be a contender, but they can be a
team that could knock a team off like the Miami Dolphins.
So I wouldn't take that light like, oh, there's a
win for us there, Like, No, I don't think that
it would be so uh you know, such a foregone
conclusion that that would take place. Yeah, I just.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Man, the Dolphins aren't good and by the way, they'll
be featured coming up on Thursday Night Football against you
returning Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
That could be the biggest cliff falling team out of
all of them. I had them finishing second in that division.
I had them being a team that could vy for
a wild card spot in the in the playoffs, like
I had them as a team that could have a
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good a good regular season, you know, and I mean,
I mean they're so far off from that.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
It's just like hit like to his concussions literally changed
the course of the franchise and and changed the course
of Mike McDaniel and his job security because like, if
if two is able to to be available for those games,
they might have beaten Buffalo in that playoff game, like
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they might have made some noise, but he just he
couldn't stay healthy and and it changed how how that team,
how that team looked the fortunes of the franchise because
they went to that game, a playoff game against Buffalo,
and they were starting Skyler Thompson because Tua wasn't available
to play. It's like, you know, if Mike McDaniel wins
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one playoff game, which, by the way, the Dolphins the
longest playoff drought of anybody in the NFL. The Dolphins
have not won a playoff game since I believe two thousand,
two thousand and one something along those lines. And that
was back when Mike Vanderjack was kicking for the Colts
and he missed a kick in that playoff game and
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the Dolphins. But other than that, it's been a quarter
century since the Dolphins have won a playoff game. But
you know, it's not going to cost you a fortune
to go to those games. Apparently next year year. And
I will say this about hard Rock Stadium because we
were there for the Penn State Notre Dame game. Somehow,
some way, Lee de Lap and I found ourselves in
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that little club area like, and I have no idea
we were not credentialed to be there, but we just
kept walking straight and we just walked right into a
bar places sweet man like we were eating shrimp cocktail
and oysters.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
You'll have the shrimp cocktail around y'all's mouths, like like
to do from Police Academy. You remember he was at
the buffet dip he was eating Yeah, all right, never there, Yeah,
don't worry about it. Who was the guy who did
the voice impressions? They go winslow. Oh man, he's the
(34:23):
best party. Yeah. And who is the NFL player who's yeah,
Bubbabo Smith. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
But listen, So, Dolphins fans, that's some good news for you.
It's not gonna cost you much to go see your
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Speaker 1 (35:12):
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Speaker 4 (35:56):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good, bad.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
And ugly, all right, Ryan Berschinger, executive producer, Who's got
what this week?
Speaker 5 (36:11):
Lavari, you're gonna take the good, Jonas, you're gonna take
the bad, and I will take the ugly.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
All right. I'll start off, I'll say we we open
the show with the topic of the World Series and
the Blue Jays taking a six to two victory last evening.
I think really has turned this into a must watch
World Series if you didn't feel that going into it,
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and so looking at the fact that they've they've knotted
up the series two to two and are heading back
to uh, you know, Toronto to play two more games.
They have the opportunity to be able to finish it
out in Toronto, and so does so does the La Dodgers.
(37:03):
So I think that it's really probably one of the
best things in sports right now that you had the
World Series living up to the building of it being
a competitive, competitive World Series and I got the bad
burst shown us the bad.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Oh yeah, the bad was this past weekend slate of
games in the NFL awful, awful, And we talked about
it on Monday. Pete Prisco kind of echoed these sentiments
that we had. If you go to that late slate
of games, Colts, Titans, Broncos, Cowboys, those are just bad
football games. And as much as we can criticize the
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NBA for having bad games and rolling out a bad
slate of games, the NFL can get that work as
well too. That was bad football. Those were bad games.
I know that the NFL had a bunch of teams
on the bye week, don't I don't think that had
anything to do with the fact that the product that
was on the field was trash through and through. Hopefully
this weekend is a little bit better. I would assume
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it's going to be. And it starts on Thursday Night
Football with two more bad teams, the Ravens and the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
All right, bro sure up.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
And when we're looking at the ugly here, let's go
back to the World Series. Now, the Dodgers offense as
a whole has not been nearly as good as they
can be throughout the postseason, but it hasn't hasn't held
them back too much. Obviously they're in the World Series.
The series is tied it to a piece. But when
we're talking about the ugly, we have to talk about
what Andy bah has has done throughout the postseason. Andy
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Pow has had a great season, was second on the
Dodgers in home runs this year twenty seven. Has played
very strong center field defense. However, his numbers this postseason
are now four. He is four for fifty at the
plate in the postseason. Four hits in fifty at bats.
That equates to a point an eighty average. That that
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is terrible, ugly, disgusting. It could be three for fifty one.
Whyight have to be so negative?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Birth, I'm sorry, you're right, that's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, you know what, Like also, when somebody like that
is struggling the way that they are, you know what
sucks about baseball? You think about it more and more
every time you go out there, and every at bat
there's more stress and more pressure and more and you're
just out there exposed to the world and everyone's like, oh,
here comes an out like thatt'say, yeah, that's a rough
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go for him. But hey, listen, maybe the next one's
going to be a big swing, and and it turns
around the series with the Dodgers and they clinch a
World Series.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Again, we will see if he does in fact get
another chance.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
Last night, during the game, he was pulled for Alex Call,
who didn't do much better. However, after the game, Dave
Roberts did say that he will believe looking at shaking
up the lineup a little bit, and the most logical
change would be benching Andy pa has. In turn of
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how and what they do, it's hard to say. Again,
Alex Call could play, but he hasn't been that great.
If Tommy Edmund's ankle was healthier, he could move to
center field and Miguel Rojas could get some reps in
the infield. But right now it has been ugly. Brandy
Pie's all I know.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
All I know is I thought you would have gone
with Adrian Peterson as you're ugly for the week.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
By the way, how bombed was he that they found
him asleep behind the wheel at a gas station at
nine in.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
The morning, tripped out all that. What you got going on?
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Man?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
What you fighting?
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Man?
Speaker 1 (40:36):
I hope he gets that help he needs, man, Yeah,
it ain't at the bottom of a momosa glass.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
I'll tell you that stuff like that don't end well
now
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I want to throw at somebody here whoever put the
hand soap the ascented like haunted fall whatever cinnamon hand
soap that's in the men's restroom. Nice work, smells great,
smells delicious. You know that was was it brief?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
She loves to put those in there. Ours is pumpkins
spice on our side. I mean that's what I'm drinking
this morning. It's a nice talking spice.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, listen, there's nothing better than
pumpkins spice.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I know that now you're no longer is you longer.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
You're no longer willing to uh to give the the
pumpkin spice I got you. Yeah try Yeah, the sugar
free kind of kind of ruined it right at the
non sugar Yeah yeah, listen, uh, bree, nice job. I
don't remember it's like a haunted some haunted scent. I
don't remember the name of it, but yeah, burst, you
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know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, it's like Cedar would. Yeah,
it's very nice. Now here's something that I think that
I actually don't know what people were thinking when they
when they implemented this. To be honest with you, this
is kind of flown under the radar because everybody's been
so wrapped up in the NBA betting scandal. But last week,
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the NCAA's Division one cabinet approved a rule change to
allow college athletes to bet on professional sports, and Division
two and Division three management councils also signed off on it,
allowing it to go into effect this coming Saturday. NCAA
athletes are still prohibited from betting on college sports and
sharing information about college sports with betters. Betting sites also
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aren't allowed to advertise or sponsor NCAA championships, So like,
all right, listen, we don't want to sponsor your championships.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
But all these athletes feel free.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
To give it a whirl, all right, you know, spin
the chamber and see what happens on some of these
betting apps. Now, Greg Sankie, the SEC commissioner, he asked
the NCAA to rescind the pending rule change that will
allow athletes and the athletic department staff members to bet
on professional sports coming this Saturday. According to a copy
of a memo obtained by ESPN, pat Nardoozi, the head
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coach of pitt He also aired his thoughts on this
new rule and allowing college athletes to bet on professional sports,
and he said this.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I'm not a gambler, so I just don't understand it.
You know, I'm not addicted to anything. I just don't
think it's a great thing to teach our young people
how to do. You know, it's hard enough in the
compliance office of trying to get your guys not to gamble.
You can gamble on a boxing match. You can gamble,
you know, on horse races because it's on an NCAA sport.
But who's gambling on horse races really? I mean unless
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you go to the you know, the horse track. But
now we're you know, just you know, it's a thing
on your phone and you can pick it up and
you can get get on an app and it's like
what are we doing? Like and once you do it
once and you win, you want to go do it again.
It becomes an addiction. I just think it's it's not good.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
So, uh, that was paton Ardoozy airing his concerns about
college athletes being allowed to gamble on professional sports starting Saturday.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
That just seems interesting. Uh, it's it's a topic that
was being discussed, debated obviously, you know, fought over who
who was a part of these conversations that led to
the conclusion of being that these young men and women
at the collegiate level should be allowed to partake in
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sports betting at you know, the pro level. That would
be what my first question would be.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
It's also interesting that they're like, look, they can bet
on professional sports, do not bet on college sports. They
do realize that when you go on your DraftKings app,
it's just like one little tabaway.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I just don't understand why there is even the conversation
of it being a compromise, you know what I mean, Like,
it just seems like that's so out of place. It's
so out of place, like even like, and take this
into consideration, more often than not, a junior, a senior,
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a rid shirt junior, rid shirt senior help sometimes a
red shirt sophomore are twenty one years old, and I
think it's inappropriate for college students, college student athletes to
endorse liquor, but I don't think that they should be
endorsing that. So what about stick c any longer? I
(06:10):
don't think that they should be endorsing it. And so
to me, when you're talking about something like gambling, that
one is I mean how I view gambling on sports
as as something that certainly you have to want to do,
(06:32):
Like that's something like a casual person like yeah, here
and there. You can find cases of people who casually
go on to these sites. But for the most part,
if you're downloading one of these these gambling sites, you're gambling.
And so I just don't I don't feel like opening
(06:55):
up that door and saying, oh, there's an exception here.
Don't bet on college because you're here, but you can
bet on pros because you're not there. I just I
think that's poor judgment. I don't I don't understand how
morally speaking, how that makes sense. It almost comes across
as the agenda of what of what sports betting represents.
(07:24):
It's bigger sports betting, what they what the consumer presents.
Even at the college level with the active athletes, it
presents the opportunity to increase the bottom line. And I
think that that's that's a tap bit like.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Off putting, like here's what, here's what I love about
it that I don't get it. I don't understand why
anybody thought that this was a great idea. That being said,
I'm saying, why should it even be at all? Right,
So like let's like let's have a call, like let's
throw out possible reasons as to why they thought that
(08:04):
this was appropriate. Maybe because they're like, well, look, I
mean they're getting nil money now, so if we can
make a few bucks off them, why not, Like let's
not turn down any business. Like I'm being sick because
I don't understand any of you grew up. Maybe they
grew up in a casino. Maybe their family members were
a part of sports question and casinos. And I swear
(08:26):
to God, like I'm saying all of this and laughing,
I'm not joking.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Like maybe there.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Is some element of well, look, I mean, you know
they're being paid now, well let's treat them like adults,
like let's uh, you have that you have the right
to go in there. Or maybe they're trying to snuff
some of these people out, like hey, you know, we
gotta we got to figure out, you know, in real
time right now, who we can trust, who we can't,
and let's start, you know, going down that road. But
(08:54):
it is interesting that they just randomly decided, you know
what's starting November first, feel free, like everybody, go ahead
and and give it a whirl and go gamble on
professional sports.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
If you're if you're a college athlete. It's just it
seems like it's crowbard almost to an agenda.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Almost like you're trying to bait some people into doing
some stuff like oh, here we go, like let's let's
throw this in there and see, uh see who takes
the who takes the bait on this?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Like let's be real here, right, you you go on
to the site, you start seeing the lines and stuff
like that, it's right there, It's right there in front
of you. Bro.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
It's like putting a bottle of vodka in an AA
meeting next to the cookies and being like, all right,
let's see.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Let's see who's serious about this, Like, let's see. I
get less unless you told me that they had a
site that was specifically for athletes in college that did
not show any college sports on that site, on that app,
And even then I'd be like, yeah, but you're still
feeding feeding something that could be like a gateway to
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them going on to another site and and doing just that.
But again, I've always come to the conclusion, this has
always been my conclusion on sports betting. Why do you
do it? Why why do you do it? Like if
you're if you're going to to enjoy me? What I'm
(10:21):
saying is like, why why do you why do you
log in? Why do you place the bets? Why do
you collect the money? And I get it that it's
a it's you know, it's a pastime. What's what's your
motivation And why wouldn't you just like, oh, like I
can get my fix by telling you like I would me,
(10:43):
I would bet on this game, and I go this route,
I take the over unders on that boom, and I
can get my if I'm going to get a rush
off of the get the bet, I can get that
off of somebody who really does it and saying yeah,
do this. It's it's also you know what I mean,
like why are you directly doing it? Like That's what
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I've never understood.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Here's also the part of this that I don't think
because look, I think this is awesome.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Have somebody else do it that's what I want to say.
I try to do it, be like about it. But
why would you just have somebody else cour say? And
you could have always done that, and people probably did.
I think this is air just to see what's going
to happen next, and I'm all about the chaos. I'm
all about what's going to be the better story for
the radio show. I mean, you know, hey, listen, not
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trying to hope for negativity, but if it's presented and
there's a bad ending to all this, I'm in like.
I think that's more entertaining and it's more fun to discuss.
The part about the Terry Rozier NBA story and the
NBA story that I think ties into this is the
real issue that they had was the fact that people
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were giving away information about status of players health and
whether or not they were going to.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Be partaking in upcoming games, most notably Lebron James and
the Damon Jones story. Damon Jones was tipping people off
to Lebron's not playing in this game Hammred.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
The Milwaukee Bucks at the time.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
You mean to tell me that none of these college
players like and I'm not saying this would ever happened.
But just for example, the well, like they just played
with these guys. Like if you're if you're Jackson Darts
teammate at ole Miss and he's starting for the Giants,
you don't think Jackson Darts aware of who's playing and
who's not in the upcoming Giants game. And so all
of a sudden, somebody from ole Miss says, hey, man,
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is such and such going to be playing? Like what
are we looking at it as?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Now?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
We're gonna go run heavy on this. There are props
you can do for rushing yards, passing yards. He's the
quarterback of that team. He's probably still got friends that
are at ole Miss. They could hit him up.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
And that's here's the thing. Who's to say that's just
not a normal regular conversation.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yes, and it's not even there's no ill intent, Like
there's no he's just like, man, like, how's it going
up there?
Speaker 2 (13:06):
What's going I don't know?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Man?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
This week, you know coach coach is playing it so.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Guard a tackle down. You can bet on all that
we're going to We're probably going to this week. You like,
just like tie it together. Hey, for some reason, you know,
we get a we get a lot of ole Miss
players that are betting on Giants games.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Like for some reason they're betting the the over under
on passing and rushing yards and the Giants games.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I don't know what it is. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Maybe it's because they played with the Giants starting quarterback
last year and now they can gamble on those games
like like it is. To Nardoozi's credit, Pat Nardoozy said it,
I think it's a bad idea. You're right, and that's
what makes it awesome, because somehow, some way, this.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Is gonna blow up in their face. And I don't
get it. I just don't understand. Why wouldn't you call
it your your your friend in New York City or
in California, or in Wyoming or Montana, Yes, and tell
them to place the bet and then you get the
money off of them. I'll never understand why you would
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directly connect yourself to doing bets that you have, what
you would say, air quotes and sad information too. So
this is how it used to be done. What's that
to stop you from doing it for yourself? Agreed? Agreed,
like it. There's no way to really fully regulate the
rules of engagement of how all of this works.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
So I probably shouldn't. Well, no, I'll just I'll air
this out.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
So how it used to go back in the day
because I knew a guy that would handle gambling, and
basically what he would do is because if you had
information on certain sporting events, you couldn't You didn't want
to load up heavy on an event or something like that,
because all of a sudden it would flag people and
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people would catch wind of the fact that, oh, this
is well, there's a lot of action coming on in
this one spot, on this one player in this one game.
What's happening here? And next thing you know, you can't
gamble at that casino. And that happens in Vegas all
the time. Dana White, who's a notorious blackjack player, isn't
allowed at the Palms casino because he won too much
(15:21):
money off them. They're not looking to get done over.
They're looking to do the doing over of people. That's
why they the Vegas looks the way that looks. So
what you would do back in the day is if
you wanted to bet one hundred thousand dollars on a
sporting event, a result like whatever it was, instead of
(15:42):
betting one hundred thousand dollars at let's say, you know,
the MGM Grand Sportsbook, you would take ten thousand dollars
and you would go bet it at ten different places,
so that that way it wouldn't look so out of
the ordinary that there would be a bunch of money
coming in. Well, theoretically, if you wanted to take that
(16:03):
same approach, you didn't really need the app to go
ahead and do that. If you're a professional athlete and
you've got information, you could hit up some guy and say, hey,
take some cash, go to Caesar's bet on this result,
and then we'll split the winnings. There's no paper trail,
there's no you're not on it. Like this stuff is
(16:24):
always existed, but now they're making it so easy for
people to get into that world and get caught up
in some stuff that maybe they're not even really fully
aware that they're doing anything wrong. Like all those NFL
players Calvin Ridley and Jamison Williams and all those guys
that got suspended, and Ridley got suspended for a year,
Calvin Ridley was just sitting at home, he was away
(16:46):
from the team, and was like, uh, yeah, I'm gonna
bet on my team and I'm gonna bet on six
other teams in a parlay and see what happens, not
even thinking, oh, by the way, you're going to be
suspended for a year if you do that. He didn't
even win either, whole think he won, and there weren't
even big bets like these. Look, they're not big bets.
And I could, like, again, like, it's no to me.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I'm not a gambler, so I could be totally off
base for this, but I feel like it's no different
than fantasy football or fantasy whatever sport name it. Like
you you predict, you say this is what it's going
to be, and you're rewarded if you're right, and you
lose if you're wrong. It's pretty simple, right, So if
(17:30):
you're sitting there and like you said, and you're watching
and you're spectating, like I would assume for the people
who gamble, it makes this watching the games more interesting,
intensifies the experience of doing it because you have more
of a vested interests literally, an invested interest and what
(17:54):
happens during the course of that game. Some people it's
almost like, you know, isn't that why they came up
with espresso. Like some people got used to coffee, and
coffee didn't keep them up as well as it should have.
So now enter in a stronger version of the coffee. Right,
(18:16):
then you get a cafecito and you see what I'm saying. Right,
It's like at some point it's like you're it's like
this isn't it's not just good enough for me to
sit here and watch it? No, or it's not just
good enough for me to sit here and play fantasy
football with it, Like I want some I need something
to heighten my experience. Need some juice. That's human nature.
(18:39):
Need some juice, that's that's human nature. And what you're
doing by saying these these young men and women athletes
in college, what you're saying is is that we're going
to acclimate you and onboard you to something that maybe
you've already been doing, something that you might be curious
about doing, you know, pique your interest, get you involved,
(19:01):
and now we have converted uh and have penetrated a
different market. Legally, you've legally penetrated a younger demographic. It's
the only bananas. I mean, if you if you really
think about it, like if you if you take a
deeper dive into it and say, why is this even
(19:22):
a conversation? I mean, it's legal for the rest of
the student body to gamble as much as they want
to gamble, and they're and they're and they're probably friends
with those guys. So now you're talking about implementing an
influencer an influencer driven concept. Why are they allowed to
(19:45):
to to bet on on pros? Because if they're allowed
to bet on pros, then they'll probably be telling their
friends in and around in and around campus, like what
they're betting on, what they're doing, dot this, that, and
the other. They're like, what are you doing? You know?
And maybe that grows their their presence within a college
(20:08):
demographic of people. If you looked at what sports betting,
what they're going after demo wise, I think that would
tell you the story. That would tell you the story
that maybe one of the penetration points that they've been
trying to figure out might be that age of a demographic,
which is the college level of age grew.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
And it's and it's it's gotten bigger and bigger. And look,
part of it was during COVID, I mean, people were
looking for anything to Hey, listen, man, I bet on
a horse race in Japan, okay, like and they were
running backwards and the guys had masks on, I swear,
and that is a true story.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
So I am guilty as anybody of all this.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
But like a lot of that took place during COVID
because it was like, well, the ufcson own by the way,
you can gamble on this stuff, sweet, like like that's
where this started picking up. And if you go back
a little bit further than that, it wasn't that long ago.
I think it was around twenty fifteen. It might have
been a little bit maybe even later than that, to
where Tony Romo wanted to hold a fantasy football convention
(21:13):
in Las Vegas, and Roger Goodell in the NFL told
him no, because we don't want to partner with anything
that would be somewhat close to gambling. And look where
we're at now to where now it's ay, anybody wants
some action here, like hey, college athletes, go bet on
some professional sports on guys that you might have relationships with,
(21:37):
because we didn't have just a problem with that with
the NBA and any sort of insider trading or like
the whole thing This is like a wife getting her
husband a hooker for his birthday and then being like,
what do you mean you fooled around? Like all right,
what do you mean? How could you if you're putting
this in their hands. I'm not gonna be overly critic
(22:00):
goal when stuff like this pops off or there's an issue,
just saying to patn our Doozy's credit and as we've
laid out, do not be surprised if something funky happens
like this. This just feels like they're setting yourself up
for something.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
That obviously a setup. It's it's obviously not there's nothing
positive about that. Like something should probably stay, you know,
like it just shouldn't be available.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Like if your son called you up and was like, hey, Dad,
I'm betting on Abdul's over under sack total for this.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
What do you think of this?
Speaker 1 (22:38):
You'd probably be like, wait what wait, wait.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
What do you mean? You know how long I paid
your bills for brouh keep your money in your bank account? Damn.
That is crazy, though, That is crazy to think like
college athletes being able to just gamble. Yeah, now with
(23:03):
that being said, I again, I played blackjack when I
was in college, not much, not often, But I did
play blackjack, you know what I mean, Like I gambled,
well you counting cards and wearing. I wasn't a I've
never been a degenerate gambler though, So but I'm just saying.
(23:27):
I'm saying you shouldn't be able to gamble and bet.
But I was playing blackjack in college. Like if I
went somewhere on like spring break or whatever, and they
had a casino, I'd go play. I go play blackjack,
some hands of blackjack. Now, if I'm looking at it
from that casual perspective, is it so wrong? Like if
(23:50):
you're playing Devil's Advocate to it? Is it so wrong
to say, Hey, you know I bet on I bet
on this football game. I'm a fan of the team,
or you know, I feel like I'm good at, you know,
predicting games and stuff like that. I want to I
want to throw a couple of dollars. Now, I mean,
how how out of control? That is crazy? How that
(24:14):
is crazy? That Black and Drag is black and Drack?
Is I've seen sound as Black and Drag?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I've seen of our Black and Drag?
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Somebody eyed LeVar and I for Black and drag and
they actually got our faces on that.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
That's disturbed. I'm gonna have to see this one. That's disturbing.
It's actually upsetting it really. Is it too good or
is it terrifying? I'm not that tan, It's just I'm
so mad at them for that. All right, I'm done
with My point is Oh my god? All right?
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Speaker 2 (26:01):
Oh my gosh, it's a good one. It's a good pool.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
If you want to see the uh AI generated picture
of Black and drac I reposted it on my ex
account at the Jonas Knox. You can go see for yourself.
It's ridiculous. It is well done and disturbing at the
same time. It's really weird. I don't know how they
took like the ai generated photo. And by the way,
(26:27):
what is what do you think they're searching when they
put that together. I don't like if you go on
CROC and you just go give me a picture of
a black guy and a really pale guy who might
look like Dracula at a cemetery and they just spit
that out.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
I'm just curious as to what you're looking at. What
are you looking at in the picture exactly? Because I'm I'm, I'm,
I'm like, at least I'm looking into the camera. U
If you are looking off in like like you're looking
at one of the gravestones, don't. Yeah, it looks like
(27:06):
lonely in there, like you're looking at a potential victim,
like somebody that already victimized.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Any blood letting left and that, right. I definitely look focused, though,
I swear. I told the rain of this I have
that jacket.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
He literally said that, can you wear it tomorrow? No,
it's just yeah, I don't want to bring out the
good stuff here, baby, I don't have that chain. I
don't have that shirt. I don't have that. You wouldn't
wear any of that. I mean I would wear a
shirt like that, but and I would rocket chain and
(27:41):
a watch like that. I mean, I hate that it
looks as much like me as it does. I really do.
I think it sucks. But whatever, Well, good job, buddy,
good job. I know that.
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(28:20):
said it. Look it's a it's a wild idea, but
I think it's going to have a wild ending. And
uh and I'm into it. You want to college athletes
to be able to bet on pro sports, go right ahead,
let's see what happens. We're gonna have the good, the bad,
the ugly coming up here in about twelve minutes from now.
Speaking of some good news, Look, I know there's a
lot of people out there that are, like, man, everybody's
(28:43):
trying to gouge us these days. You know, nobody, nobody's
looking out for the fan, nobody's doing right by us.
Like people have been complaining about how much it costs
to go to a World Series game, Like it's just
a ridiculous amount of money. If you're a Dodgers fan
or a Blue Jays fan, you want to get out
to these games. But we do have some good news.
Somebody in the NFL cares and that's somebody is the
(29:06):
awful Miami Dolphins, who, according to Chris Perkins of the
South Florida Sentinel, what they care about. Some ticket prices
will actually decrease next season for Dolphins fans next season,
and some fans that purchase club seats for the season
will receive a two hundred and fifty dollars food and
beverage credit. That's what I'm talking about right there, there.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
You go, Miami.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Is that every game? Yeah, they get a voucher for
every game for if it happened once, maybe that's a bit.
Happen twice, maybe that's enough.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
But it is kind of interesting that while everybody nowadays
is raising prices on everything, the Dolphins are like, listen,
we're not going to insult you any longer. We've already
put out a bad product. We're probably gonna have a
new head coach next year. We've basically been selling off
pieces a little bit at a time. This year has
not gone well. Our quarterbacks thrown everybody under the bus
to it. By the way, woke up before the game
(30:03):
against the Falcons with his eyes swollen shut and nobody
knows why. Last check was his teammates snuck in his
room and beat his ass like full metal jacket, wrapped
up a bar soap and put it in the sock
swelled his swelled his eyes right on up. What is this?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
It's a jelly donut private pile. And they just smoked
him all he was safe ass Nah, they didn't rolled
up on him real quiet. Oh, only take like a
little little like one little sock to the app bam,
like it's it rap swelled up both.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
But if you're a Dolphins fan, at least you're like,
you know what, Yeah, we're not very good. It appears
the Patriots are the goods. It appears that the Buffalo
Bills are going to be here for a while. But
you know, if you are playing the Jets and you
know that's probably going to be a win, at least
you can go and it's not going to cost you
as much as it would if you want to get
I only got their first win.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Sometimes once you get that first win, you know, things
change and you start to see a difference there. You
know that first one is the hardest one to get.
Now you start to have a little bit more belief
in what it is that you can do. So it's
there's the possibility that the Jets could be better moving forward.
They have players, They have players. Now, I don't expect
(31:27):
them to be a contender, but they can be a
team that could knock a team off like the Miami Dolphins.
So I wouldn't take that light like, oh, there's a
win for us there, Like, No, I don't think that
it would be so uh you know, such a foregone
conclusion that that would take place. Yeah, I just.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Man, the Dolphins aren't good and by the way, they'll
be featured coming up on Thursday Night Football against you
returning Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
That could be the biggest cliff falling team out of
all of them. I had them finishing second in that division.
I had them being a team that could vy for
a wild card spot in the in the playoffs, like
I had them as a team that could have a
(32:17):
good a good regular season, you know, and I mean,
I mean they're so far off from that.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
It's just like hit like to his concussions literally changed
the course of the franchise and and changed the course
of Mike McDaniel and his job security because like, if
if two is able to to be available for those games,
they might have beaten Buffalo in that playoff game, like
(32:45):
they might have made some noise, but he just he
couldn't stay healthy and and it changed how how that team,
how that team looked the fortunes of the franchise because
they went to that game, a playoff game against Buffalo,
and they were starting Skyler Thompson because Tua wasn't available
to play. It's like, you know, if Mike McDaniel wins
(33:05):
one playoff game, which, by the way, the Dolphins the
longest playoff drought of anybody in the NFL. The Dolphins
have not won a playoff game since I believe two thousand,
two thousand and one something along those lines. And that
was back when Mike Vanderjack was kicking for the Colts
and he missed a kick in that playoff game and
(33:26):
the Dolphins. But other than that, it's been a quarter
century since the Dolphins have won a playoff game. But
you know, it's not going to cost you a fortune
to go to those games. Apparently next year year. And
I will say this about hard Rock Stadium because we
were there for the Penn State Notre Dame game. Somehow,
some way, Lee de Lap and I found ourselves in
(33:48):
that little club area like, and I have no idea
we were not credentialed to be there, but we just
kept walking straight and we just walked right into a
bar places sweet man like we were eating shrimp cocktail
and oysters.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
You'll have the shrimp cocktail around y'all's mouths, like like
to do from Police Academy. You remember he was at
the buffet dip he was eating Yeah, all right, never there, Yeah,
don't worry about it. Who was the guy who did
the voice impressions? They go winslow. Oh man, he's the
(34:23):
best party. Yeah. And who is the NFL player who's yeah,
Bubbabo Smith. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
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It's not gonna cost you much to go see your
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the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, and it's yours
here on FSR.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
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Speaker 2 (35:10):
It is two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here
by the way, coming up top of next hour. A
little over ten minutes from now, we are going to
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yours here on FSR. That two is a Wednesday tradition
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Speaker 4 (35:56):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good, bad.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
And ugly, all right, Ryan Berschinger, executive producer, Who's got
what this week?
Speaker 5 (36:11):
Lavari, you're gonna take the good, Jonas, you're gonna take
the bad, and I will take the ugly.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
All right. I'll start off, I'll say we we open
the show with the topic of the World Series and
the Blue Jays taking a six to two victory last evening.
I think really has turned this into a must watch
World Series if you didn't feel that going into it,
(36:39):
and so looking at the fact that they've they've knotted
up the series two to two and are heading back
to uh, you know, Toronto to play two more games.
They have the opportunity to be able to finish it
out in Toronto, and so does so does the La Dodgers.
(37:03):
So I think that it's really probably one of the
best things in sports right now that you had the
World Series living up to the building of it being
a competitive, competitive World Series and I got the bad
burst shown us the bad.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Oh yeah, the bad was this past weekend slate of
games in the NFL awful, awful, And we talked about
it on Monday. Pete Prisco kind of echoed these sentiments
that we had. If you go to that late slate
of games, Colts, Titans, Broncos, Cowboys, those are just bad
football games. And as much as we can criticize the
(37:41):
NBA for having bad games and rolling out a bad
slate of games, the NFL can get that work as
well too. That was bad football. Those were bad games.
I know that the NFL had a bunch of teams
on the bye week, don't I don't think that had
anything to do with the fact that the product that
was on the field was trash through and through. Hopefully
this weekend is a little bit better. I would assume
(38:03):
it's going to be. And it starts on Thursday Night
Football with two more bad teams, the Ravens and the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
All right, bro sure up.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
And when we're looking at the ugly here, let's go
back to the World Series. Now, the Dodgers offense as
a whole has not been nearly as good as they
can be throughout the postseason, but it hasn't hasn't held
them back too much. Obviously they're in the World Series.
The series is tied it to a piece. But when
we're talking about the ugly, we have to talk about
what Andy bah has has done throughout the postseason. Andy
(38:34):
Pow has had a great season, was second on the
Dodgers in home runs this year twenty seven. Has played
very strong center field defense. However, his numbers this postseason
are now four. He is four for fifty at the
plate in the postseason. Four hits in fifty at bats.
That equates to a point an eighty average. That that
(39:00):
is terrible, ugly, disgusting. It could be three for fifty one.
Whyight have to be so negative?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Birth, I'm sorry, you're right, that's a good thing.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, you know what, Like also, when somebody like that
is struggling the way that they are, you know what
sucks about baseball? You think about it more and more
every time you go out there, and every at bat
there's more stress and more pressure and more and you're
just out there exposed to the world and everyone's like, oh,
here comes an out like thatt'say, yeah, that's a rough
(39:27):
go for him. But hey, listen, maybe the next one's
going to be a big swing, and and it turns
around the series with the Dodgers and they clinch a
World Series.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Again, we will see if he does in fact get
another chance.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
Last night, during the game, he was pulled for Alex Call,
who didn't do much better. However, after the game, Dave
Roberts did say that he will believe looking at shaking
up the lineup a little bit, and the most logical
change would be benching Andy pa has. In turn of
(40:00):
how and what they do, it's hard to say. Again,
Alex Call could play, but he hasn't been that great.
If Tommy Edmund's ankle was healthier, he could move to
center field and Miguel Rojas could get some reps in
the infield. But right now it has been ugly. Brandy
Pie's all I know.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
All I know is I thought you would have gone
with Adrian Peterson as you're ugly for the week.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
By the way, how bombed was he that they found
him asleep behind the wheel at a gas station at
nine in.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
The morning, tripped out all that. What you got going on?
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Man?
Speaker 2 (40:34):
What you fighting?
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Man?
Speaker 1 (40:36):
I hope he gets that help he needs, man, Yeah,
it ain't at the bottom of a momosa glass.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
I'll tell you that stuff like that don't end well
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