December 19, 2025 • 41 mins
In Hour 2 of the show today, the guys talk Nick Saban taking shots at College Football Playoffs such as JMU getting in over Notre Dame. Plus, the guys discuss the notion of Tom Brady hinting that he could return, the NFC East, and more!
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You got you got issues, But we are. We were
off and running here an hour two of the program,
and there's a lot of things that are happening, things
that are taking place. First and foremost, we recap Thursday
at football last night. It was a class. We've got
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And then there's the return of the college football playoffs.
The College Football Playoff is back. It opens up tonight.
(02:13):
It's a good one. It's in Norman. You're gonna have
a rematch between Alabama and Oklahoma is.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Going to be off the rottle thump, aw say, are
going to get it in Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
It's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be a lot of fun.
But you know, Nick Saban's got some thoughts. Oh god, Uh,
I mean, listen, he's got some thoughts on you know,
not so much Alabama, but he's got some thoughts on
the little playoffs, James Madison getting in and James Madison.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Uh, you know, having a playoff spot over a team
like say Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Nick Saban shared and aired those grievances on The Pat
McAfee show starring AJ Hawk.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Look, would we allow the winner of the trip away
Baseball League, the International League whatever they call. I don't
even know the name of it. Would you let them
in the in the World Series playoff?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I don't think they do.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
I don't think no, they don't. But I'm saying, but
that's the equivalent of what we do when j m
U gets in to the college football playoff and Notre
Dame doesn't.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yes, I mean the man's like, ether, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
That's one way to put it.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Oh man, oh man, Oh, they ain't even in the
same league.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Uh, you know, like you know, he also pointed out,
you know, like the playoff bonus. Just give that to them.
And and let's get Notre dame in. Just give them,
you know, the four million dollars. Let's get it's so
dismissive and so demeaning that it's hilarious, Like it's absolutely hilarious.
And look, that's that's part of this as well too.
(04:21):
And here's here's because there's going to be some people
that are like, it's arrogant, unqualified. There's gonna be somethople
like it's arrogant. You know, this is all ego and
you're letting the little guy in and and and it's
a great story.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Look, man, if you want to be a part of
the party, you got to accept the repercussions that come
with being a part of this party. And being a
part of this party is you walk in the record
player skips and people are like, what are you doing here?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Don't skip? Scratch it. Yay, we'll let you hang out.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
But just understand, you don't look like anybody else here.
You don't look like anybody here.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
You never had to deal with that. I have. Have
you seen my in laws? Respect? Take that back? Try
being the only guy you know? Respect, Try being the
only guy other than.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Your four year old son, Like, hey, why do you
hang out with us?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Why are you hanging out with your son? Because I
know what he's saying, What do you mean Mexico. I'm
with you, Jerry, But the boy did I step down
the wrong lane that? But didn't even think that was
very selfless of me. I'm sorry. Listen to what right?
(05:37):
I know, I know what you go through. Man, You're
so right.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
But like to Nick Samon's points, like this is this
is part of it. I mean they're here and you
hope they represent themselves well, but like this is part
of it.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Man, we know what that sets the stage for when
someone of his magnitude and caliber of a person uh
accomplishments and that if Mints as a coach, this sets
the stage for those to be the biggest games, those
truly should be the biggest games. Are watching the JMUS
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there's another one that's in there, right, Who's there's another
smaller team that's that's in.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
The lane, Tulane, Tulane.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
That to me, I would not be interested in watching
a JMU game. I would not be interested in watching Tulane.
Like maybe like throw it on see like Okay, all right,
turn it off. But when you have someone like coach
Saban come out and say that like you're a triple
A team, you're not even a team that should be you.
(06:44):
You've not had to win a game that would count
for you winning in the big leagues, and you deserving
to be in the World Series playoffs, you know, said
wild Saban said, quote these guys ought to have their
own playoffs.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Just give them the money. Each school gets four million
dollars for playing the first round. Just give them four
million dollars and putting Notre Dame in want to see
Notre Dame in organ play?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Hell, yeah you do, man, that's the truth. Sorry, that's
the truth. Yes.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
But with that being said, now it raises the state.
So here you go, jam You, Here you go, Tulane,
go whoop somebody's ass? Or if you're the team they're playing, who,
who's jam you playing first?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Oregan?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Who is who is Tulane playing first? That they already
lost to? Okay, ole miss and Oregon better win by
one hundred points, and that's exactly better. They better win
by one hundred points. No, no, winning is not good enough.
Oregon winning is not good enough. Old miss You better
thump them every single minute of that game, because you
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know what would happen if a Triple A team played
a major league team, They would get thumped. They would
get thumped. You're basically saying if a college team played
a pro team in a game, that that should never happen.
That's what coach Saban said. That's if I'm comprehending it.
(08:12):
He's saying that the developmental League should never be competing
for a developmental league team should never be competing for
a World's there. So you're basically saying a college team
should never play a pro team. If a pro team
ever played a college team, what you think would happen?
They had better destroyed. And I'm talking the best college team.
(08:33):
I'm talking to team Ohio State. I'm talking. I'm talking
when Nick Saban was coach in Alabama. They had better
not be the worst team, let alone a playoff team
in the National Football League.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Let me ask you a question, and I'm trying to
figure out how I want to frame this, because like
I want people to know that you were recruited to
play college basketball, correct, Like you were recruited you know
by you know Bob Huggins. Yeah, you know, John Thompson
like all this, so you would actually have an understanding
as well as anybody, and you played high level college football.
(09:10):
Why do you think it is that in the NCAA tournament,
we're okay with Cinderella team, yeah, and we almost are
pulling for it, but in this one it's this, ugh,
what are you doing here?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah? Is it just because it's new, Like it's.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Almost like it's it's almost like if you loose. Look,
Virginia was a one seed and lost to a sixteen
seed in the NCAA Tournament and it was the first
time it ever happened, and yeah, they got their balls broken.
But we've seen fifteen seeds be two seeds. We've seen fourteens,
b threes, et cetera, et cetera, the twelve and the
five all the time. There's so many and if you
have one bad half of basketball on a neutral site.
(09:51):
But why do you think that there's this, for lack
of a better term, arrogance when it comes to college
football or is that just college football culture, especially in
college football culture.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Is an arrogant culture.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
It is it is, and it's a very very uh
top heavy, dominant culture, because at the end of the day,
he could have said the same thing about the bottom
teams in the SEC or the Big Ten, or even
in the in the ACC. Yeah right, Like, think about it,
none of them belonging to playoff either. Have you seen
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them play?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Give them four million dollars?
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Don't believe he Have you seen some of these bottom
dwelling big conference schools play?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Throw them some cash and tell them to get the
hell hell out of here. Man, we only need you
for a couple of wins to get into the play
You do it? Hey, how much? Can you just go
ahead take a walk?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Your only flex is to say you're in the Big Ten,
in the Big ten Conference. Your only flex is to
say I'm in the SEC. That's your only flex because
at the end of the day, they do not view
the bottom teams. That's why the Vanderbilt story is so crazy.
That's why the Indiana story is so Do you understand
(11:05):
people are still reeling from and trying to figure out
what the.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Just happened this year?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Indiana is your Big Ten Conference champion, and they don't
look like they're going anywhere. It doesn't look like the
Kirk Signetti influence and impact is fake. It's for real.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
So if you see what took place with Indiana, and
they're showing that they have the cash to be able
to create what it is that they want to create,
which is a winner in the Big Ten. Holy moly,
you beat Organ in Organ, you beat Ohio State in
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the Big Ten championship game, Indiana.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
You know the first thing I think about when I here.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Indiana Colbert Cheney, Isaiah Thomas, Bobby Knightight, the Hoosiers, like
the movie.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Football.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
I think Ala Gulia. I know you know who he
is because you played for your team. I don't think
of anything else that Joan Randall m Yeah, Michael Pennick say,
he ain't even want to be there. He rolled out.
Let me go somewhere where I can. And now they're
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in the Big Ten. Like you left the Big Ten.
You went to the back and then you ended up
being that dead.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I mean, you're gone, but they ended up being in
the Big Ten.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Anyway, Listen, if you are never afforded the opportunity to
improve your circumstances is then why are you here?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Why are you here?
Speaker 4 (13:06):
If I can't turn There's probably was a point where
once some of these schools that are considered to be
blue blood schools were looked at and talked about and
criticized and put down just like JMU.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah, yeah, of course.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
And now they're this team, right, Indiana was that team?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I mean, we did. This is a great example. It's
a great example.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
But I'm talking even smaller like even smaller like Cincinnati
flirts with being next level. They flirt with it. But again,
imagine a JMU. Nobody takes you say, JMU, nobody's taking
that seriously.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
And big major.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Power for football, we're not taking JAMU seriously. But what
if they get into a game like this where they're
not on the stage that they've been on all year.
They're on a big stage and there's a different audience
and there's a different level of scrutiny and criticism and
and breaking down and analyzing, and they throw down.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
That's what sport is supposed to be about. Opportunity. One
of the.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Best stories in the Bible was an underdog story, David
versus Goliath, and and and in sports, you're able to
take and create these types of storylines where it was
a larger than life situation that a daunting task in
front of this group of people and they stepped up
(14:44):
to the plate and they answered the call and.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
They rung that bell.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
That's what to me, that's what makes sports and athletics amazing. Sure,
I would love to see Oregon versus Notre Dame more
than I would love because I know what the knowns
are of.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Of that game. These are two elite programs.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
But what if for one moment you could say to yourself,
jam you showed that they are an elite program this
year and they afforded themselves the opportunity to measure and way,
can we start to get the same recruits that you're getting.
Can we be looked at and revered the same way
you guys are being looked at and being revered. I
almost feel like, for what is worth all respect to
(15:24):
coach Saban, because obviously he's coach Saban, but coach, give
the little guy a chance, like, don't like hoard it
all to yourself.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
He is he going, hey, you use.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
This door over here, Like whoa, what do you mean
that's why you're drinking fountain? That's not your fountain brouh,
Like yeah, maybe he does want to give me a chance.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
He wants to give him four million dollars and go away,
just leave us along. I don't buy into that.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
It's an elitist type, like and I think that Nick
Saban is a dope dude, But that comes across as
like disconnected, detached and removed from the reality of what
could exist.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I'm telling you, But in the NCAA tournament for basketball, like,
you don't get any of this. It's not there's a
different train of and their numb to it. Maybe it's
because of the amount like games, Yeah, that their numb
to it. It's like early rounds, it's like, oh, okay,
I expect I expect upsets in the early rounds.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
When the Cinderella teams really matter is.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
When you get down, when you start knocking it down,
you get to the sweet sixteen.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
And be on Mason and and.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Look at what Larynaga was able to do as a
coach based off of showing that he could coach this
George Mason team to the level what he did.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Look at what Shaka Smart did at VCU, Like, I mean,
you have to have these opportunities. Stevens at Butler u
gon Zacha.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Fore, Gonzaga has now built a reputation in the legacy
off of being that small team that brings big time
players and basketball to the table.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
And again, here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Why shouldn't Gonzaga or VCU or George Mason and some
of these other schools that are small schools at the
college level, Why shouldn't they have the opportunity to go
get the same players that Kentucky and u KHN and
and and those teams Arkansas and Alabama.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Why shouldn't they be able to go get those players.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Why shouldn't JAM you be able to go and get get.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
And now who's playing in the playoffs? Jam? And not bad?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Like I felt like I messed up there there at
the acronym James Mason. I'm sorry, James Madison. Look, James Madison, Look,
Give them four million dollars. Tell them to take a walk,
Give them four million dollars. Make sure everybody knows what
jail you've got complaints here? Take this four million some
four million bucks.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Beat it. I just I just to me. It now
broke as it raises the stakes.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
It raises the stakes of how I'm viewing these games,
because you've now put the spotlight not on the small guy,
You've put it on the big guy. And just like
just like everybody loves to see and be able to
say I told you so. You know what else they
love like you said the in the NCAA basketball tournament.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
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Speaker 4 (18:33):
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Speaker 3 (19:03):
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Speaker 4 (19:07):
I'm looking for, damn you to have people saying, oh,
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Speaker 3 (19:22):
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Away, speaking of Rocky, y'all know how this applies to Rocky?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
How y'all have no idea? Do you talk to me?
Speaker 4 (24:03):
We we just talked about Rocky on the last segment
of y'all come back into this. So this was the
song that was playing when Rocky and his team had
just got to the Soviet Union, really number four. They
were sitting, they were sitting in the log cabin, and
I believe the trainer, I forget his name, he's passed
away since too. Uh, but he was playing chess with
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a little Meredith.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Is that his name? Yeah, the old guy. Yeah, yeah,
the ball hated dude. That's it.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
The town.
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Oh no, no, that's no Burgess married. This is the white
guy you're talking about. The black guy you talked about
Apollo Creeds.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah, yeah, black guy.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Well, anyway, they were in uh.
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They were in the radio. I want to I want
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What shin?
Speaker 7 (25:00):
I did look this up though, Yes, the classic Chipmunk
song is.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
In Rocky for the hell do you remember that feature during.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
A scene where Polly is listening to it on headphones
while in Siberia?
Speaker 4 (25:12):
There is Siberia there you go, that's crazy, ovarar, what.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
About my round of applause? I played the song without
even not You're like.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Like, what's it called? Uh? What's the music? What's the music?
Speaker 4 (25:31):
That?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Oham?
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Yeah, she's like she didn't even know it though I
didn't even know she was shaming.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Hey, listen, what's the most awkward place she ever szamed.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
On the toilet. I did it in the public of public. Yeah,
you told me this before. I liked the song was
so good.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I'm at the I'm at church, like literally, my best
friend in the world his uh, his grandma died and
they were just really sad Italian family, like old school
Italian family, and they started playing this song, and I'm like, God,
it's so good, but I don't want anybody to see me.
So I just kind of shuffled around in my in
my pocket, in my jacket pocket, and it was my phone,
(26:19):
and I just pretended like I was like I was
praying and really distraught, and I was szaming the song
and it was Andrea Bocelli time to say goodbye, so good,
so good. And I told him afterwards though, that's ridiculous.
I told him afterwards though, that.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
Was a great song.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yeah, that's ridiculous, really good. But you knew, Ben, you
that's good. Recall you remember that Siberian scene? Yeah? Yeah,
is that the Soviet Union there enough? I mean, he's
overseas training for the what's the relation to the Soviet
Union in Siberias. It's part of the world. I'm not
(26:55):
I have no interest in visiting, so say that I'm
gonna look that up.
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So coming up in about twelve minutes from now possible.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I don't know if the history is the right word.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
But it is an indication that has been a long
time since something took place in.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
The area was under the Soviet Union, transformed from a
remote territory into a vast, strategic industrial and resource hub.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
We learned today. There you go. Yeah, I had it right.
This is history talks with LeVar Arrington. You know, athletes.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Have brains and they're not just they don't just succumb
to CTE and stuff like that. I mean, we joke
and we key key and all that stuff. But you know, hey,
you know, sometimes you find out. Sometimes you find out, man,
we actually use some parts of our brain.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Man. Yeah, I'm with you, man, me too. No, I
don't go that deep with it.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Speaking of speaking of athletes, Tom Brady was on with
Shaq and when.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
People refer to quarterbacks as athletes, but go.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Ahead, damn well, he played baseball too. I mean I
think he was drafted by the Expos. Tom Brady was
played catcher, but anymore. Tom Brady was talking with Shaq
and Adam Lefko about, you know, just the return of Philip.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Rivers and whether or not he could give it a go,
and had this to say, would you be ready to
go right now? Right now?
Speaker 8 (28:38):
Absolutely? I could go out there and play. Give me
a month. I mean I could go play with anybody.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
For thirty one days.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
And like I said, I took care of my body great.
I mean everything is I can do it all. And
I just you know, what I wouldn't want to do
is make the commitment to play, because it's like i'ld say,
it's like basketball season. Do you really want to commit
to playing eighty two games? That takes a lot of
And it's like, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
If he could come back for just the finals, okay,
so you buying the tom Brady could come back and play,
because I do. I'm just glad he's not going to
I think he could come back and play. I think
he could come back and play at a high level.
I just I would not want to see it because
(29:22):
I want the lasting memory to be Yeah, that guy
could still go. Probably had a little bit more in
the tank and just decided that was it. Like get
out early before you stick around too long.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
The quick answer is yes, he could probably still play
and still be very effective. And the reason being is
the one element that Tom Brady has on his side
is that he understands schematics and how it applies to
him and how it applies to his team. So give
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then he'd have the proper tools in terms of having
a running back, having a tight end or two, having
a slot receiver, and having deep threats on the outside.
If he had the right skilled players on his team, obviously,
(30:20):
with a offensive line that can pass block and run block.
If he had a complete team with a running back
in a running game, tom Brady could still be ridiculously
successful at the pro level. Now, if you put him
on a team and you're saying, we don't have all
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of those answers, we don't have all of that personnel,
and it's one of those teams where it's like like
I don't know, like they don't protect him well enough,
or they don't run the ball well enough, or they
don't like Tennessee okay, or the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
We came out. He came out and.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Played for the Raiders, which he could do if he
wanted to, right, but he ain't going to do it
because if you go out there with them Raiders, it
could expose you for being, you know, a guy that
was a benefactor to really really good good players and
good good programming around what you did. There's no reason
to risk that. But if he went into a front
(31:20):
running situation where you had all of those elements involved.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Sure you be be super super effective.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
You mean to tell me not one time after you
walked away, there was like didn't want to scratch the itch,
never didn't want to like didn't think, you know what,
maybe I could Like one morning you woke up, You're like,
I feel better now than I've felt in years because
I've had some time to rest.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
You know, maybe I could come back and play a
little bit. You never one time felt that after you
walked away.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
My last year playing football, I don't know if I've
even ever told this before. So we went up to Albany,
New York, and we were at the University of the Giants,
and we had to come from the dorms to go
over to the facility to get dressed and do your
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meetings and all that stuff. And I remember the one
time I had a segue. You remember the segues. They
still people still use them to go touring, like places DC.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Downtown, LA or whatever. People will be on them segues.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
It's like the two wheels and you lean on it
and it has the bars and you hold it and
it's like the like Flash Gordon, like yeah, yeah, all right. Anyway,
so I'm this is before they're all popular. I had
an all terrain one with the big tires on it
and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
And I had to get up early.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I get up maybe an hour and a half to
two hours earlier than everyone else and get over there
and get let into the facility.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I did.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
I had such an extensive pre everything ritual of doing
contrasting a heat and cold tub, of doing stretches, of
doing all kinds of stuff to get my body ready
just for the day. And I remember the one time
I was on my segue and I'm riding over there
and it was brisk, super brisk, and I was like,
(33:20):
why are you doing this?
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Bro? Like, what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Like I'm really like riding over here on my second
almost wrecked because I got so deep into the thought.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Of what are you doing? Why are you doing this?
Speaker 4 (33:38):
You start to realize, Like for me, I knew that
was it, Like I was going to do what I
needed to do, and I was going to get through
what I needed to get through. But sometimes you don't
know what these guys are feeling, what they're thinking, how
they view life around them. Some guys view life as
this is what I am. I'm a football player and
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that's what I do. And you'll talk to them a year, two, ten,
fifteen years removed from the game, and if you ask
them the same question, they'll answer it the same exact way.
I was never that guy. I never was the guy
I'm a football player, like what do you do? What
(34:22):
are you? Who are you? Like I'm a football player
like that, I'm a competitor. So to answer your question, no,
I never thought about going back. In fact, before I
was done playing, I was asking myself why do I
keep getting up and coming back?
Speaker 3 (34:40):
And I came to the conclusion that I work.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
I work, and my challenge, my challenge for the last
part of my career was one to get through the
BS that I was dealing with in Washington.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
That was my challenge. I'm a competitor.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
My challenge is I'm gonna be the best teammate that
I can be and get through this. When I went
to New York and I realiz that, like, why are
you doing this? My challenge was to get through it,
be a positive contributor, and be the best teammate that
I could possibly be, which meant put my best foot forward.
No matter how I felt, I put my personal feelings
(35:14):
and thoughts away. I compartmentalized the right way and I
did my job and that's that's how I got through it.
So for guys like Tom Brady's probably had like way
better experiences during his pro career, had way better results.
For certain, it was probably a different It's just a
different feeling for you to relive, you know, that part
(35:37):
of your life and then sometimes have the feelings of
I would love to relive that. I didn't have too
many of those when I played in the league. And
for what it's worth, as amazing as my college career was,
I don't have moments of wanting like could I if
I got one more year eligibility, let's go do it.
You know, Like, No, I don't want to play at
(35:58):
the college level either.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
I don't want to ever play. I don't even want
to think about playing. All I like to do is
reminisce on the moments that I had and the guys
that I went up against, and the guys I played
with and had that respect, like saw Al Wilson, saw
Eddie George, saw all these different guys that were at
the Hall of Fame dinner, and it never makes me
(36:21):
feel like I want to play again. I see Coach
Spurry or Coach Switzer, coach Coach Foehmer, and all these
amazing coaches that are in the College Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I see all of them. We're all in one room,
We're all talking to each other.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
The fact that I can give them hugs and we
can embrace one another the way that we do and
talk about our past and talk about what we got
going on now means more to me that I put
in that work to be able to be in those
conversations and then those rooms versus still trying to do it,
is what I would say.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
By the way, did you know that you had two
career sacks against the New Orleans Saints? Like you always
got spicy against that Louisiana team for some reason.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
That's interesting because, well, you know, when you're getting sacks
against Aaron Brooks and you're making those plays against a
guy that can run the ball the way that he did,
I want to throw some hot sauce on him. And
you know, the topic is usually debated, who's the MVP
Most Valuable poor? And well mine is the original Louisiana
hot sauce. So, by the way, I take it with
(37:21):
me when I go to Louisiana, but I take it
with me wherever I go. It's in my refrigerator at home.
Make sure you become that VP. Yeah, that's that tastes
that original Louisian hot sauce.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Make sure you buy you so well. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
Sports Radio. Up next, we could be on the brink
of history. First time in over twenty years of this
in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
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Speaker 2 (37:48):
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Speaker 1 (38:10):
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Speaker 1 (38:44):
All right, So we do have the potential of some
history in the NFL that could go down later on
this weekend, let's talk about the NFC East. All right,
the NFC East has has gotten around, Oh wow, if
in what way?
Speaker 3 (39:01):
And better? Yet, When.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
The Eagles beat the Commanders on Saturday night, the Philadelphia
Eagles would become the first NFC East team to win
back to back division titles since two thousand and four, Right,
two thousand and.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Four, which would have been the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah, So over twenty years, everybody's taking a turn so
that that division title is hoard itself out to everybody.
So everybody's gotten a turn with the division title. Not everybody, Well,
Dallas has won the division, Okay, Washington's won the division,
(39:40):
Phillies won it.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
The Giants, yeah they have yeah, yeah, okay, Right, everybody's
got the turn with that division.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
It also, you know the fact that you've seen that much,
you know, I think it's kind of it's emblematic of
the NFL to where it's so one year you're great,
one year you're out. But in that vision, it's really
just been all over the place. It also makes what
New England did that much more impressive. So New England
won the AFC East eleven straight years, from two thousand
and nine to twenty twenty with Tom Brady as the
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starting quarterback of the Patriots. With him as the guy
in New England, the Patriots won the AFC East seventeen
out of nineteen years.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
That's crazy, man.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
And you know what's even crazier than that is Patrick
Mahomes's stats are better than Tom Brady's right now up
to this point.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
It's just so that ought to show you the l
And by the way, one of those years that they
didn't win the division, the Patriots, that was the year
that he got hurt in the first game. Speaking of
Patrick Mahomes, he got hurt with the knee injury against
the Chiefs in the first game and then it was
Matt Castle who took over. They ended up not going
to the playoffs that year, but they were still eleven
and five. Yeah, And then I was some I'm like
(40:58):
looking around and going, well, you know who's had the
longest drought from winning a division.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
It's the Giants.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
The Cleveland Browns in the whole entire league last won
the division in nineteen eighty nine. Town they had to
get a fought out.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Of here, And I mean that's like that that training league,
that development League, James.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Madison, Yeah, Nick Saban, I think it was a part
of that staff, probably was, Yeah, that won it. So
he's speaking from experience there you go, Yeah, it would
like to be behind.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
So maybe some thanka what hour three coming at you? Yikes,
Paul
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One day You're going to get the help you need.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
You got you got issues, But we are. We were
off and running here an hour two of the program,
and there's a lot of things that are happening, things
that are taking place. First and foremost, we recap Thursday
at football last night. It was a class. We've got
some big games coming up later on this weekend in
(01:52):
the NFL. Those will be featured in our Picks against
the Spread coming up an hour three of the program.
We mentioned you know, sprinkle some Jake, Paul, Anthony Joshua
on Netflix coming up later on. Like all that is fun.
And then there's the return of the college football playoffs.
The College Football Playoff is back. It opens up tonight.
(02:13):
It's a good one. It's in Norman. You're gonna have
a rematch between Alabama and Oklahoma is.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Going to be off the rottle thump, aw say, are
going to get it in Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
It's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be a lot of fun.
But you know, Nick Saban's got some thoughts. Oh god, Uh,
I mean, listen, he's got some thoughts on you know,
not so much Alabama, but he's got some thoughts on
the little playoffs, James Madison getting in and James Madison.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Uh, you know, having a playoff spot over a team
like say Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Nick Saban shared and aired those grievances on The Pat
McAfee show starring AJ Hawk.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Look, would we allow the winner of the trip away
Baseball League, the International League whatever they call. I don't
even know the name of it. Would you let them
in the in the World Series playoff?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I don't think they do.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
I don't think no, they don't. But I'm saying, but
that's the equivalent of what we do when j m
U gets in to the college football playoff and Notre
Dame doesn't.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yes, I mean the man's like, ether, Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
That's one way to put it.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Oh man, oh man, Oh, they ain't even in the
same league.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Uh, you know, like you know, he also pointed out,
you know, like the playoff bonus. Just give that to them.
And and let's get Notre dame in. Just give them,
you know, the four million dollars. Let's get it's so
dismissive and so demeaning that it's hilarious, Like it's absolutely hilarious.
And look, that's that's part of this as well too.
(04:21):
And here's here's because there's going to be some people
that are like, it's arrogant, unqualified. There's gonna be somethople
like it's arrogant. You know, this is all ego and
you're letting the little guy in and and and it's
a great story.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Look, man, if you want to be a part of
the party, you got to accept the repercussions that come
with being a part of this party. And being a
part of this party is you walk in the record
player skips and people are like, what are you doing here?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Don't skip? Scratch it. Yay, we'll let you hang out.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
But just understand, you don't look like anybody else here.
You don't look like anybody here.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
You never had to deal with that. I have. Have
you seen my in laws? Respect? Take that back? Try
being the only guy you know? Respect, Try being the
only guy other than.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Your four year old son, Like, hey, why do you
hang out with us?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Why are you hanging out with your son? Because I
know what he's saying, What do you mean Mexico. I'm
with you, Jerry, But the boy did I step down
the wrong lane that? But didn't even think that was
very selfless of me. I'm sorry. Listen to what right?
(05:37):
I know, I know what you go through. Man, You're
so right.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
But like to Nick Samon's points, like this is this
is part of it. I mean they're here and you
hope they represent themselves well, but like this is part
of it.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Man, we know what that sets the stage for when
someone of his magnitude and caliber of a person uh
accomplishments and that if Mints as a coach, this sets
the stage for those to be the biggest games, those
truly should be the biggest games. Are watching the JMUS
(06:14):
there's another one that's in there, right, Who's there's another
smaller team that's that's in.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
The lane, Tulane, Tulane.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
That to me, I would not be interested in watching
a JMU game. I would not be interested in watching Tulane.
Like maybe like throw it on see like Okay, all right,
turn it off. But when you have someone like coach
Saban come out and say that like you're a triple
A team, you're not even a team that should be you.
(06:44):
You've not had to win a game that would count
for you winning in the big leagues, and you deserving
to be in the World Series playoffs, you know, said
wild Saban said, quote these guys ought to have their
own playoffs.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Just give them the money. Each school gets four million
dollars for playing the first round. Just give them four
million dollars and putting Notre Dame in want to see
Notre Dame in organ play?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Hell, yeah you do, man, that's the truth. Sorry, that's
the truth. Yes.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
But with that being said, now it raises the state.
So here you go, jam You, Here you go, Tulane,
go whoop somebody's ass? Or if you're the team they're playing, who,
who's jam you playing first?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Oregan?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Who is who is Tulane playing first? That they already
lost to? Okay, ole miss and Oregon better win by
one hundred points, and that's exactly better. They better win
by one hundred points. No, no, winning is not good enough.
Oregon winning is not good enough. Old miss You better
thump them every single minute of that game, because you
(07:50):
know what would happen if a Triple A team played
a major league team, They would get thumped. They would
get thumped. You're basically saying if a college team played
a pro team in a game, that that should never happen.
That's what coach Saban said. That's if I'm comprehending it.
(08:12):
He's saying that the developmental League should never be competing
for a developmental league team should never be competing for
a World's there. So you're basically saying a college team
should never play a pro team. If a pro team
ever played a college team, what you think would happen?
They had better destroyed. And I'm talking the best college team.
(08:33):
I'm talking to team Ohio State. I'm talking. I'm talking
when Nick Saban was coach in Alabama. They had better
not be the worst team, let alone a playoff team
in the National Football League.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Let me ask you a question, and I'm trying to
figure out how I want to frame this, because like
I want people to know that you were recruited to
play college basketball, correct, Like you were recruited you know
by you know Bob Huggins. Yeah, you know, John Thompson
like all this, so you would actually have an understanding
as well as anybody, and you played high level college football.
(09:10):
Why do you think it is that in the NCAA tournament,
we're okay with Cinderella team, yeah, and we almost are
pulling for it, but in this one it's this, ugh,
what are you doing here?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yeah? Is it just because it's new, Like it's.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Almost like it's it's almost like if you loose. Look,
Virginia was a one seed and lost to a sixteen
seed in the NCAA Tournament and it was the first
time it ever happened, and yeah, they got their balls broken.
But we've seen fifteen seeds be two seeds. We've seen fourteens,
b threes, et cetera, et cetera, the twelve and the
five all the time. There's so many and if you
have one bad half of basketball on a neutral site.
(09:51):
But why do you think that there's this, for lack
of a better term, arrogance when it comes to college
football or is that just college football culture, especially in
college football culture.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Is an arrogant culture.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
It is it is, and it's a very very uh
top heavy, dominant culture, because at the end of the day,
he could have said the same thing about the bottom
teams in the SEC or the Big Ten, or even
in the in the ACC. Yeah right, Like, think about it,
none of them belonging to playoff either. Have you seen
(10:28):
them play?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Give them four million dollars?
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Don't believe he Have you seen some of these bottom
dwelling big conference schools play?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Throw them some cash and tell them to get the
hell hell out of here. Man, we only need you
for a couple of wins to get into the play
You do it? Hey, how much? Can you just go
ahead take a walk?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Your only flex is to say you're in the Big Ten,
in the Big ten Conference. Your only flex is to
say I'm in the SEC. That's your only flex because
at the end of the day, they do not view
the bottom teams. That's why the Vanderbilt story is so crazy.
That's why the Indiana story is so Do you understand
(11:05):
people are still reeling from and trying to figure out
what the.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Just happened this year?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Indiana is your Big Ten Conference champion, and they don't
look like they're going anywhere. It doesn't look like the
Kirk Signetti influence and impact is fake. It's for real.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
So if you see what took place with Indiana, and
they're showing that they have the cash to be able
to create what it is that they want to create,
which is a winner in the Big Ten. Holy moly,
you beat Organ in Organ, you beat Ohio State in
(11:59):
the Big Ten championship game, Indiana.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
You know the first thing I think about when I here.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Indiana Colbert Cheney, Isaiah Thomas, Bobby Knightight, the Hoosiers, like
the movie.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Football.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
I think Ala Gulia. I know you know who he
is because you played for your team. I don't think
of anything else that Joan Randall m Yeah, Michael Pennick say,
he ain't even want to be there. He rolled out.
Let me go somewhere where I can. And now they're
(12:40):
in the Big Ten. Like you left the Big Ten.
You went to the back and then you ended up
being that dead.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I mean, you're gone, but they ended up being in
the Big Ten.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Anyway, Listen, if you are never afforded the opportunity to
improve your circumstances is then why are you here?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Why are you here?
Speaker 4 (13:06):
If I can't turn There's probably was a point where
once some of these schools that are considered to be
blue blood schools were looked at and talked about and
criticized and put down just like JMU.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah, yeah, of course.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
And now they're this team, right, Indiana was that team?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I mean, we did. This is a great example. It's
a great example.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
But I'm talking even smaller like even smaller like Cincinnati
flirts with being next level. They flirt with it. But again,
imagine a JMU. Nobody takes you say, JMU, nobody's taking
that seriously.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
And big major.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Power for football, we're not taking JAMU seriously. But what
if they get into a game like this where they're
not on the stage that they've been on all year.
They're on a big stage and there's a different audience
and there's a different level of scrutiny and criticism and
and breaking down and analyzing, and they throw down.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
That's what sport is supposed to be about. Opportunity. One
of the.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Best stories in the Bible was an underdog story, David
versus Goliath, and and and in sports, you're able to
take and create these types of storylines where it was
a larger than life situation that a daunting task in
front of this group of people and they stepped up
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to the plate and they answered the call and.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
They rung that bell.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
That's what to me, that's what makes sports and athletics amazing. Sure,
I would love to see Oregon versus Notre Dame more
than I would love because I know what the knowns
are of.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Of that game. These are two elite programs.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
But what if for one moment you could say to yourself,
jam you showed that they are an elite program this
year and they afforded themselves the opportunity to measure and way,
can we start to get the same recruits that you're getting.
Can we be looked at and revered the same way
you guys are being looked at and being revered. I
almost feel like, for what is worth all respect to
(15:24):
coach Saban, because obviously he's coach Saban, but coach, give
the little guy a chance, like, don't like hoard it
all to yourself.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
He is he going, hey, you use.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
This door over here, Like whoa, what do you mean
that's why you're drinking fountain? That's not your fountain brouh,
Like yeah, maybe he does want to give me a chance.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
He wants to give him four million dollars and go away,
just leave us along. I don't buy into that.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
It's an elitist type, like and I think that Nick
Saban is a dope dude, But that comes across as
like disconnected, detached and removed from the reality of what
could exist.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I'm telling you, But in the NCAA tournament for basketball, like,
you don't get any of this. It's not there's a
different train of and their numb to it. Maybe it's
because of the amount like games, Yeah, that their numb
to it. It's like early rounds, it's like, oh, okay,
I expect I expect upsets in the early rounds.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
When the Cinderella teams really matter is.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
When you get down, when you start knocking it down,
you get to the sweet sixteen.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
And be on Mason and and.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Look at what Larynaga was able to do as a
coach based off of showing that he could coach this
George Mason team to the level what he did.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Look at what Shaka Smart did at VCU, Like, I mean,
you have to have these opportunities. Stevens at Butler u
gon Zacha.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Fore, Gonzaga has now built a reputation in the legacy
off of being that small team that brings big time
players and basketball to the table.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
And again, here's the thing.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Why shouldn't Gonzaga or VCU or George Mason and some
of these other schools that are small schools at the
college level, Why shouldn't they have the opportunity to go
get the same players that Kentucky and u KHN and
and and those teams Arkansas and Alabama.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Why shouldn't they be able to go get those players.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Why shouldn't JAM you be able to go and get get.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
And now who's playing in the playoffs? Jam? And not bad?
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Like I felt like I messed up there there at
the acronym James Mason. I'm sorry, James Madison. Look, James Madison, Look,
Give them four million dollars. Tell them to take a walk,
Give them four million dollars. Make sure everybody knows what
jail you've got complaints here? Take this four million some
four million bucks.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Beat it. I just I just to me. It now
broke as it raises the stakes.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
It raises the stakes of how I'm viewing these games,
because you've now put the spotlight not on the small guy,
You've put it on the big guy. And just like
just like everybody loves to see and be able to
say I told you so. You know what else they
love like you said the in the NCAA basketball tournament.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
They love a Rocky Balboa. They love a Rocky Balboa.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Why in the world would you get into a fight
with Apollo Creed?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
And you know what Apollo Creed's trainer was saying to him.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
After that first fight that he gave this man that
shouldn't have been in the ring with him. His trainer said, Champ,
I watched you dish out a beating on this man
that I had never seen you ever do or either
(18:53):
even someone else ever do before, and he kept coming back.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
You don't want that, don't want that fight. Now.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
I'm looking for, damn you to have people saying, oh,
they taking a whooping like I ain't never seen before,
and they keep coming back, Champ.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
It'd be a great story, That's all I'm saying. Man.
But but what's really gonna happen. They're gonna get their asses.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
They gonna get tour out the frame, tour out the
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Speaker 4 (23:55):
Away, speaking of Rocky, y'all know how this applies to Rocky?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
How y'all have no idea? Do you talk to me?
Speaker 4 (24:03):
We we just talked about Rocky on the last segment
of y'all come back into this. So this was the
song that was playing when Rocky and his team had
just got to the Soviet Union, really number four. They
were sitting, they were sitting in the log cabin, and
I believe the trainer, I forget his name, he's passed
away since too. Uh, but he was playing chess with
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a little Meredith.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Is that his name? Yeah, the old guy. Yeah, yeah,
the ball hated dude. That's it.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
The town.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Oh no, no, that's no Burgess married. This is the white
guy you're talking about. The black guy you talked about
Apollo Creeds.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah, yeah, black guy.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Well, anyway, they were in uh.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
They were in the radio. I want to I want
to paint the picture for everybody. It's a black guy
they's talking about.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Why you keep leaving it out? You don't want to
do it right now?
Speaker 4 (24:59):
What shin?
Speaker 7 (25:00):
I did look this up though, Yes, the classic Chipmunk
song is.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
In Rocky for the hell do you remember that feature during.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
A scene where Polly is listening to it on headphones
while in Siberia?
Speaker 4 (25:12):
There is Siberia there you go, that's crazy, ovarar, what.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
About my round of applause? I played the song without
even not You're like.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Like, what's it called? Uh? What's the music? What's the music?
Speaker 4 (25:31):
That?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Oham?
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Yeah, she's like she didn't even know it though I
didn't even know she was shaming.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Hey, listen, what's the most awkward place she ever szamed.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
On the toilet. I did it in the public of public. Yeah,
you told me this before. I liked the song was
so good.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I'm at the I'm at church, like literally, my best
friend in the world his uh, his grandma died and
they were just really sad Italian family, like old school
Italian family, and they started playing this song, and I'm like, God,
it's so good, but I don't want anybody to see me.
So I just kind of shuffled around in my in
my pocket, in my jacket pocket, and it was my phone,
(26:19):
and I just pretended like I was like I was
praying and really distraught, and I was szaming the song
and it was Andrea Bocelli time to say goodbye, so good,
so good. And I told him afterwards though, that's ridiculous.
I told him afterwards though, that.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
Was a great song.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yeah, that's ridiculous, really good. But you knew, Ben, you
that's good. Recall you remember that Siberian scene? Yeah? Yeah,
is that the Soviet Union there enough? I mean, he's
overseas training for the what's the relation to the Soviet
Union in Siberias. It's part of the world. I'm not
(26:55):
I have no interest in visiting, so say that I'm
gonna look that up.
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Speaker 3 (27:16):
I don't know if the history is the right word.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
But it is an indication that has been a long
time since something took place in.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
The area was under the Soviet Union, transformed from a
remote territory into a vast, strategic industrial and resource hub.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
We learned today. There you go. Yeah, I had it right.
This is history talks with LeVar Arrington. You know, athletes.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Have brains and they're not just they don't just succumb
to CTE and stuff like that. I mean, we joke
and we key key and all that stuff. But you know, hey,
you know, sometimes you find out. Sometimes you find out, man,
we actually use some parts of our brain.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Man. Yeah, I'm with you, man, me too. No, I
don't go that deep with it.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Speaking of speaking of athletes, Tom Brady was on with
Shaq and when.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
People refer to quarterbacks as athletes, but go.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Ahead, damn well, he played baseball too. I mean I
think he was drafted by the Expos. Tom Brady was
played catcher, but anymore. Tom Brady was talking with Shaq
and Adam Lefko about, you know, just the return of Philip.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Rivers and whether or not he could give it a go,
and had this to say, would you be ready to
go right now? Right now?
Speaker 8 (28:38):
Absolutely? I could go out there and play. Give me
a month. I mean I could go play with anybody.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
For thirty one days.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
And like I said, I took care of my body great.
I mean everything is I can do it all. And
I just you know, what I wouldn't want to do
is make the commitment to play, because it's like i'ld say,
it's like basketball season. Do you really want to commit
to playing eighty two games? That takes a lot of
And it's like, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
If he could come back for just the finals, okay,
so you buying the tom Brady could come back and play,
because I do. I'm just glad he's not going to
I think he could come back and play. I think
he could come back and play at a high level.
I just I would not want to see it because
(29:22):
I want the lasting memory to be Yeah, that guy
could still go. Probably had a little bit more in
the tank and just decided that was it. Like get
out early before you stick around too long.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
The quick answer is yes, he could probably still play
and still be very effective. And the reason being is
the one element that Tom Brady has on his side
is that he understands schematics and how it applies to
him and how it applies to his team. So give
(30:00):
then he'd have the proper tools in terms of having
a running back, having a tight end or two, having
a slot receiver, and having deep threats on the outside.
If he had the right skilled players on his team, obviously,
(30:20):
with a offensive line that can pass block and run block.
If he had a complete team with a running back
in a running game, tom Brady could still be ridiculously
successful at the pro level. Now, if you put him
on a team and you're saying, we don't have all
(30:41):
of those answers, we don't have all of that personnel,
and it's one of those teams where it's like like
I don't know, like they don't protect him well enough,
or they don't run the ball well enough, or they
don't like Tennessee okay, or the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
We came out. He came out and.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Played for the Raiders, which he could do if he
wanted to, right, but he ain't going to do it
because if you go out there with them Raiders, it
could expose you for being, you know, a guy that
was a benefactor to really really good good players and
good good programming around what you did. There's no reason
to risk that. But if he went into a front
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running situation where you had all of those elements involved.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Sure you be be super super effective.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
You mean to tell me not one time after you
walked away, there was like didn't want to scratch the itch,
never didn't want to like didn't think, you know what,
maybe I could Like one morning you woke up, You're like,
I feel better now than I've felt in years because
I've had some time to rest.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
You know, maybe I could come back and play a
little bit. You never one time felt that after you
walked away.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
My last year playing football, I don't know if I've
even ever told this before. So we went up to Albany,
New York, and we were at the University of the Giants,
and we had to come from the dorms to go
over to the facility to get dressed and do your
(32:11):
meetings and all that stuff. And I remember the one
time I had a segue. You remember the segues. They
still people still use them to go touring, like places DC.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Downtown, LA or whatever. People will be on them segues.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
It's like the two wheels and you lean on it
and it has the bars and you hold it and
it's like the like Flash Gordon, like yeah, yeah, all right. Anyway,
so I'm this is before they're all popular. I had
an all terrain one with the big tires on it
and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
And I had to get up early.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I get up maybe an hour and a half to
two hours earlier than everyone else and get over there
and get let into the facility.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I did.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
I had such an extensive pre everything ritual of doing
contrasting a heat and cold tub, of doing stretches, of
doing all kinds of stuff to get my body ready
just for the day. And I remember the one time
I was on my segue and I'm riding over there
and it was brisk, super brisk, and I was like,
(33:20):
why are you doing this?
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Bro? Like, what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Like I'm really like riding over here on my second
almost wrecked because I got so deep into the thought.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Of what are you doing? Why are you doing this?
Speaker 4 (33:38):
You start to realize, Like for me, I knew that
was it, Like I was going to do what I
needed to do, and I was going to get through
what I needed to get through. But sometimes you don't
know what these guys are feeling, what they're thinking, how
they view life around them. Some guys view life as
this is what I am. I'm a football player and
(34:00):
that's what I do. And you'll talk to them a year, two, ten,
fifteen years removed from the game, and if you ask
them the same question, they'll answer it the same exact way.
I was never that guy. I never was the guy
I'm a football player, like what do you do? What
(34:22):
are you? Who are you? Like I'm a football player
like that, I'm a competitor. So to answer your question, no,
I never thought about going back. In fact, before I
was done playing, I was asking myself why do I
keep getting up and coming back?
Speaker 3 (34:40):
And I came to the conclusion that I work.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
I work, and my challenge, my challenge for the last
part of my career was one to get through the
BS that I was dealing with in Washington.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
That was my challenge. I'm a competitor.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
My challenge is I'm gonna be the best teammate that
I can be and get through this. When I went
to New York and I realiz that, like, why are
you doing this? My challenge was to get through it,
be a positive contributor, and be the best teammate that
I could possibly be, which meant put my best foot forward.
No matter how I felt, I put my personal feelings
(35:14):
and thoughts away. I compartmentalized the right way and I
did my job and that's that's how I got through it.
So for guys like Tom Brady's probably had like way
better experiences during his pro career, had way better results.
For certain, it was probably a different It's just a
different feeling for you to relive, you know, that part
(35:37):
of your life and then sometimes have the feelings of
I would love to relive that. I didn't have too
many of those when I played in the league. And
for what it's worth, as amazing as my college career was,
I don't have moments of wanting like could I if
I got one more year eligibility, let's go do it.
You know, Like, No, I don't want to play at
(35:58):
the college level either.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
I don't want to ever play. I don't even want
to think about playing. All I like to do is
reminisce on the moments that I had and the guys
that I went up against, and the guys I played
with and had that respect, like saw Al Wilson, saw
Eddie George, saw all these different guys that were at
the Hall of Fame dinner, and it never makes me
(36:21):
feel like I want to play again. I see Coach
Spurry or Coach Switzer, coach Coach Foehmer, and all these
amazing coaches that are in the College Football Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
I see all of them. We're all in one room,
We're all talking to each other.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
The fact that I can give them hugs and we
can embrace one another the way that we do and
talk about our past and talk about what we got
going on now means more to me that I put
in that work to be able to be in those
conversations and then those rooms versus still trying to do it,
is what I would say.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
By the way, did you know that you had two
career sacks against the New Orleans Saints? Like you always
got spicy against that Louisiana team for some reason.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
That's interesting because, well, you know, when you're getting sacks
against Aaron Brooks and you're making those plays against a
guy that can run the ball the way that he did,
I want to throw some hot sauce on him. And
you know, the topic is usually debated, who's the MVP
Most Valuable poor? And well mine is the original Louisiana
hot sauce. So, by the way, I take it with
(37:21):
me when I go to Louisiana, but I take it
with me wherever I go. It's in my refrigerator at home.
Make sure you become that VP. Yeah, that's that tastes
that original Louisian hot sauce.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Make sure you buy you so well. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
Sports Radio. Up next, we could be on the brink
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Speaker 3 (37:46):
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Of next hour.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
We'll call it a little over ten minutes from now,
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Speaker 1 (38:44):
All right, So we do have the potential of some
history in the NFL that could go down later on
this weekend, let's talk about the NFC East. All right,
the NFC East has has gotten around, Oh wow, if
in what way?
Speaker 3 (39:01):
And better? Yet, When.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
The Eagles beat the Commanders on Saturday night, the Philadelphia
Eagles would become the first NFC East team to win
back to back division titles since two thousand and four, Right,
two thousand and.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Four, which would have been the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Yeah, So over twenty years, everybody's taking a turn so
that that division title is hoard itself out to everybody.
So everybody's gotten a turn with the division title. Not everybody, Well,
Dallas has won the division, Okay, Washington's won the division,
(39:40):
Phillies won it.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
The Giants, yeah they have yeah, yeah, okay, Right, everybody's
got the turn with that division.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
It also, you know the fact that you've seen that much,
you know, I think it's kind of it's emblematic of
the NFL to where it's so one year you're great,
one year you're out. But in that vision, it's really
just been all over the place. It also makes what
New England did that much more impressive. So New England
won the AFC East eleven straight years, from two thousand
and nine to twenty twenty with Tom Brady as the
(40:13):
starting quarterback of the Patriots. With him as the guy
in New England, the Patriots won the AFC East seventeen
out of nineteen years.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
That's crazy, man.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
And you know what's even crazier than that is Patrick
Mahomes's stats are better than Tom Brady's right now up
to this point.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
It's just so that ought to show you the l
And by the way, one of those years that they
didn't win the division, the Patriots, that was the year
that he got hurt in the first game. Speaking of
Patrick Mahomes, he got hurt with the knee injury against
the Chiefs in the first game and then it was
Matt Castle who took over. They ended up not going
to the playoffs that year, but they were still eleven
and five. Yeah, And then I was some I'm like
(40:58):
looking around and going, well, you know who's had the
longest drought from winning a division.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
It's the Giants.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
The Cleveland Browns in the whole entire league last won
the division in nineteen eighty nine. Town they had to
get a fought out.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Of here, And I mean that's like that that training league,
that development League, James.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Madison, Yeah, Nick Saban, I think it was a part
of that staff, probably was, Yeah, that won it. So
he's speaking from experience there you go, Yeah, it would
like to be behind.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
So maybe some thanka what hour three coming at you? Yikes,
Paul
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