June 2, 2025 • 37 mins
The NFL is reportedly looking into creating a division in Europe, but that might be a step too far. Odell Beckham Jr. never wanted to leave the Giants, or his star status. Plus, tales from Vancouver on the FSR IR.
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we start off our two of the program talking about growth,
(01:19):
potential growth. Now, conflicting reports on this, right, So the
NFLPA is trying to say no, no, no, this is
not the case. But according to Mike Florio and per
a source with knowledge of the situation, NFLPA Executive Director
Lloyd Howell has been actively discussing the pros and cons
(01:41):
of a four team European division. That's because the NFLPA
is preparing for the push from the league to try
and grow overseas, ultimately resulting in a division in the
NFL that would be in Europe. Now, Lloyd Howell did
(02:01):
respond and say player members are in regular discussion with
the NFLPA about international games and related to health and
safety issues, but no one is actively preparing for a
European division. Well you can say that, but it does
feel like eventually this is where this is going. And
(02:23):
I just wonder, and we've talked about the sixteen game
international schedule that they've thrown in there, and just how
would this work and how does this look? I wonder
if that's Roger Goodell in the NFL sort of their
soft launch into NFL in Europe and potentially growing. And
we've heard this before, having four teams playing over in
(02:44):
Europe and making that be one of the divisions in
the NFL somehow someway. As much as I can't stand it,
I'm good with the way that it is. The NFL
is always looking for growth, and it feels like Europe
is the place that.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
It may happen. I mean, but they've tried.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's before, I mean, and maybe not like this, but
it's been They've tried numerous times to create world leagues.
Football just isn't widely participated in like soccer. And that's okay.
I understand what. I guess the thought process of trying
(03:24):
to expand the borders, trying to to make the game
more you know, globalized, I get that, but I don't know.
I think that there has to be an understanding, and
which it's not. It's not in my wheelhouse to try
to figure it out. So maybe it is taking place
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under Roger Goodell to understand the market well enough to
maybe capture the NFL fans that are there. That I mean,
I think they've done a great job at excellent job
of what they've been able to do with the games
that are played there. I've been to a couple of them.
I've experienced it. It is a spectacle, but you have
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a lot you have a lot of people who don't
understand the game, and they go because it's a spectacle.
They go for the meeting of people, They go to
have a good time, could be a date, go for
the food, whatever it may be. And you may be like, well,
how do you know that, because I'll go see a
team that's playing, and the two teams that are playing,
(04:29):
you'll see a whole bunch of different team jerseys being
warned by the fans that are there. And then what's
interesting is is that the fans kind of pick and
choose who they want to chair for and that becomes
almost like the de facto home team, like, oh, we're
going to chair more for this team. But for the
most part, you'll see you'll hear jeers and cheers after
(04:53):
every big play. It's not a home field advantage, you know,
So it's an ow and I oh, it's a h yeah,
it's it's not a it's weird. It's not a you know,
like you know, Joan is because he plays for this team,
and that's your team they're representing, you know, their team.
That's not what you have there. And I just wonder
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what that what that create? Would it create a better
environment if you created this four team division? Are they playing?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Are they all playing out wimberly?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Because I mean I would assume that those four teams
are going to have to travel quite a bit to
come here to play other teams in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Correct, Yeah, that's the other part of it, like travel,
Like logistically, how does this work? How does it work?
It just feels like And I would also say this,
if you're the NFL and you really want to get
people in London or in Europe excited about the game,
maybe you shouldn't have sent the Jaguars over first, because
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there's probably people in London.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Going, is this what you guys love? Like this, like
like we're supposed to be excited about this? This team sucks?
What are we doing here.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Listening to what you just said and what we just said?
Like I guess that would be the difference for what
they did in the past and what they didn't play
each other in the past, Like when they created NFL
euro they were playing each other it was just their league,
because this would actually entail them playing teams in the
(06:34):
National it's a National Football League division that could have
the CACHE connected to it. That makes sense. And then
if you get those names like I don't know how
big NFL names are European wise, Like I feel like
some names like.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Move the needle a little bit, a little bit.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I mean, if you'd have had, you know, I would
assume that you have a Tom Brady that moves the
needle abroad. If you have, you know, maybe right now
a Patrick Mahomes or a Dak Prescott maybe that moves
the needle abroad.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
But how many players do you really.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Have that are a drawing card a big ticket for
selling tickets to come watch? What are you what are
you selling? You know, in terms of advertisement wise, what
are you connecting to these these TV deals that you
would want to do over there to try to get
the type of money that you're going to generate. These
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are all questions that would have to be answered and
understood and making that type of decision. What is what
is attractive to that market about the NFL player, the
NFL game and the community that's connected to.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
What about from a player standpoint, would you want to
play in.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Your I would say, if I could identify, and this
is just me personally, because I was always trying to
identify how am I able to integrate and acclimate to
one serving this community for one and for two, what
am I doing after I'm done playing? So if I
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could identify something like for me I could have, I
would have been fine. Because I chose to go into media.
I wanted to be a media personality. I wanted to write,
I wanted to do television, I wanted to do radio.
So that was something that was important to me, and
I started building while I was playing in Washington.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
So if I'm in if I'm in Europe, you know
they got what's it called sky? I believe it's called
sports Sports.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, so I would have been I think there are
things that would be attractive.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
It's a beautiful place. There's a lot going on. The
euro is stronger than the American dollar now. That can
play against you or it could play for you, depending
on how you look at it. Right Like, if I'm
making money and I'm saving money and I'm living modestly
in Europe, and I decided to come back home and
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live in America. I don't know how all that works,
but I would assume I'm getting more bang for my
buck when I bring my buck here from what I'm
making over there. There's a lot of things to consider
and to think about that would play a part in this.
Where are the players coming from? Are they coming from America?
Are they European players? How does that work? You know
(09:29):
what I mean? Like, there's a lot of questions.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
That would have to be it would you'd be drafted
into that division and that team in Europe, just as
you would be drafted into any other team in the day.
I just think there's a lot because now you got
like a dual citizenship tea situation, Like I just wonder
how that would would work. And I know some people
may say, well, isn't that how it would work with
the Canadian Football League, Like, I don't think it would
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work that way. Well, maybe the setup of you having
a working visa and stuff like that. I mean, people
play abroad all the time, you know, they play people
go abroad to play professionally all the time. But as
it applies to playing for an American.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
League abroad, how does that work?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I mean, I know, you got you have it in basketball,
you have it in hockey, you even have it in baseball.
You have pro teams franchises that are in Canada. But
how does that work? Canada's right here for one, that's
just that's right a part of like North America. Like
we're right here. You could drive to it. But this
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is different. This is your going over over the pond.
This is a different You're asking a different type of
commitment level from these athletes and they got to be
away from Like at least your family can fly to
see you.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Or drive to see you.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
If you're playing somewhere in the States, how is your
family going to be a part of your life? And
that's a changing you're really changing your lifestyle. There's there's
there's a difference in culture, different in in in language.
Not so much a language barrier because they speak English,
but it's still different. Lee, what's a flight? How long
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is a flight from Seattle to London? Like, what what's
that flight time?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
If we're guessing, I'm gonna say eight hours gotta be
or maybe ten I'll say like eight hours, seven eight hours,
we're looking at nine and a half hours.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
So think about that one.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Like, if you're the Seahawks and you're playing the you know,
the London butter Teeth or whatever they like, but whatever,
Like I said, whatever, whatever their team name is. And
you've like you're yeah, you're you're playing Yeah, you're playing
the London Crumpets. So you've got to fly nine and
a half hours to go see. I mean, just there's
(11:56):
just and this is my question, is the well completely
dry here in the States that you've got to do this,
because I feel like maybe there's some other markets in
the US that are looking at this going and man,
what about us, Like if you're San Diego, Hey, can
we get our team back?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
You know what I mean? Like we can we like,
can we get something here? I mean West southern California.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
You're talking about three teams and or well two teams
in this market. You got two teams in this market, right,
Pennsylvania has two teams in Pennsylvania, Like you have states
that support more than one pro team in the National
Football Chicago could probably have a second team.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
They've got two baseball teams, They've got New York's got
two teams. I just I feel like there's possibilities here
within the States that you could work on as opposed
to now let's just let's go take it.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
It does it does make you wonder why that is
there are or some markets Texas could handle it. Yeah,
san Antonio, the Oilers were there, they left, you know,
so I mean and you have the Texans now, so
you have you.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Got together Dallas, Boston, San Antonio could carry a team.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
San Antonio probably could support a team. I just I
just think there's places where like what about Oklahoma? There
are some places. Why is there not a pro football team?
You took a pro league to Alabama? Why do you
not have a pro team in Alabama? I feel like,
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and again, there has to be a very very there
has to be a real defined reason as to why
this what we're saying isn't happening, and why there's such
a concentrated and focused thought on making that move to Europe.
(13:55):
There's a reason why we just I don't know that
we're privy to. I don't know that that's playing view
as to why it's so valuable to try to penetrate
that market the way that the NFL is trying to do.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Yeah, but there's a reason.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
There is a reason, and it goes beyond just conventionally
saying why not just expand in the States. They have
done that, they have expanded at times within the States.
There's gotta be a reason why, like this, whoa, this
is why? I just don't know what that is.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Well, I mean, you know the I guess the easy
answer would be, you know, financially, the global takeover, the
money in Europe, you know that they want this, they
want to keep growing the game. I mean, at a
certain point, you just got to come to terms with
the fact that other parts of the world don't give
a rip about the NFL.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
They really don't do they really do, which.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Is fine, Like go go enjoy cricket, Go do whatever
you guys like to do, and have fun with that.
There's nothing wrong with the NFL just being ours. And
I just feel like there's there's other ways that you
can probably grow the sport here as opposed to sending
an entire division over to Europe.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
You know, I mean.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Six Like, look at sixteen international games in a season.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
That's a lot. I mean, and now we're.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Talking about and even with your viewing audience here, you know,
if you're going to watch that game, I mean, it's
definitely off the beating path of how you're going to
view a game. It's very early. You got to get
up very early to be able to see it. If
you're on the East coast, it's pretty early. If you're
on the West coast, it's crazy early. It's crazy early.
It's like what a nine am.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Game or something like six thirty local time out here?
It's crazy, man. Play. So it's very different. Man. What
about Hawaii? Like fans listening in Hawaii on you know
the edit and they're five hours behind us, right the
tiki torch of the Hawaiian? Is that what it is?
Throughout Fox Sports Night three hours, three hours, three hours.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Because they don't do daylight savings, So I think it's
renow and two.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
In the fall. I believe whatever it is. You know,
Arizona doesn't do that either. Yeah. Interesting, I don't know, man.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I just I mean, if they see it and it
makes sense and it works, I get it. But I
just think that there are a lot of serious issues
that have to be addressed, and I think a lot
of it will have to do with the mental health
and the emotional health of your players. If you're bringing
players from America over there to go to go play,
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I know the conventional fan will sit there and be like,
you get in the opportunity to go make millions of
dollars and play at the professional game and it's a
kid's game, and then and then go do your job.
And people do that all the time. I know people
will say that, and that's fine, but again, you grew
up here playing the game. You worked your ass off
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to to make it through high school, make it to
a college, and play well enough to have the opportunity
to play in the pro level in the Pro League.
I would assume, just like you go through having homesickness
when you go to college and you have to deal
with go to college, you're going to have a little
bit of homesickness when you go to the pros and
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unless you go to your hometown. So imagine if you're
going to go through that going to a franchise that's
here in the States. What is that going to look like?
What is that going to feel like when you're going
through the colder months of the year and you're abroad.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I swear to God, if I got drafted by a
European team and I get picked up by the airport,
the second I see that guy driving in the wrong
side of the car.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
I'd retire. That's it. I'm out of here. This is
not worth my time.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
This guy can't even figure out which side of the
car to drive on, and you expect me to play
games here f that?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
But hey, good luck. We'll see it someday.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
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Odell Beckham Junior, who was oh lesson there's a lot
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of a lot of reports about OBJ recently. But nonetheless
he was on Golazo, which I'm assuming is a a
soccer show. I guess it's a soccer show. I was
gonna watch it, but I just carried on living my life.
And so Odell Beckham Junior was speaking about his time
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with the New York Giants and apparently he didn't want
it to end.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
For me, it's like the New York Giants, like I
never ever wanted to leave the New York Giants. The
reason you heard me talking about what was going on
is because I was pissed because where I come from
in college, if we lost one game, our season was over.
This was an organization I got drafted to. They believed
in me. So if the Giants went and won a
Super Bowl, I would be happy. But deep down inside,
(19:57):
I wanted to be the woman of the one I
ain't want, no question, So it's definitely you always hold that.
But then you know someone like me, I went to
the l A Rams won a Super Bowl, you know,
you know, you know, like I.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Still you just wrote that.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
So you were on a team that won the Super Bowl.
You know, he might have the way he was playing
early in that game, had he not got he might have.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Been the m v P.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
No, he might have got MVP of that game. I
think Cooper Cup did he? I think so Aaron Donald.
If Aaron Donald, that's what that is a freaking travesty
if Aaron Rodgers or Aaron Donald didn't get the MVP
of that game.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah, oh wow, it's a big win for the Obie.
Eight catches, ninety two yards, two touchdowns. What what did
Aaron Donald do in that game? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
He see the game with a sack for certain. I mean, dude,
the dude was balling out of control in that game. Man.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Four tackles so solo, five assists, and two sacks.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Two sacks in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Actually, that's that's including two games in Super Bowls.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
That's his career in Super Bowls.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Yeah, that one, he had three solo tackles, one assist
tackle and two sacks in that one.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
He had two sacks in that game. Yep. I mean
he was making some big plays in that game. You know,
he is the most dominant dude.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Don't don't mess with the amish. Learned your lesson, way
to go, Cooper Cup.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Nice job.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Now I look at because Odell Beckham can say, well, look,
you know I ended up, you know, going to win
a super Bowl. There was a point in time where
he was the reason you would have been in the
super Bowl. Well, and also he was the biggest non
quarterback star in the league. There were like that was like,
there was a time he was.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
The biggest star in the league. I was almost gonna
say that, you don't even put a qualify your there.
There was a moment in time he was the biggest
star with a Tom Brady in the league. He was
the biggest star in the league.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
And I look at it and I go, his career
is going to be one of the great what ifs.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
And I'll bet part of his you know.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah, I didn't want to leave New York and I
was frustrated, and he would call out there because I
think he realized because after that, I mean he went
to Cleveland. He had a decent year after that, but
after his first three years with the Giants, he never
was quite the same. The injury started to pile up.
But yeah, he was the star of the NFL. And
to make that catch in primetime on Sunday Night Football
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against the Cowboys, the way he did, he was off
like a rocket ship.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
It's almost part of you could almost say you started
seeing him crash out a little bit, just based off
of the amount of fame that he had.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Remember the Josh Norman stuff. Him and Josh Normal would
be going at it. Remember when he was fighting against
the field goal Nat kicking. I mean, I just he
his fame transcended being a football player. It got to
a point where OBJ was a brand all its own.
(23:18):
It was not a It was not, oh, this is
a football player. The dance is the fashion. I mean,
he was really in a lot of ways. I say
that could have been as undoing as a player, honestly
in New York and in the market, but it was
certainly not an undoing of his brand. I mean, if
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you walk around and you see OBJ, you're still going
to it's still a recognizable brand.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Star power, it's star power.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
He created star power, like a star power that was
beyond being a football player, star plower. It was like
rock star like he was approaching like rock star status
and how popular and famous he was as a football player.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Welle, I think he can you look this up because
I think OBJ was the first NFL player to have
his own cleat. I think he was the first guy
to have his own signature cleat and that might have
been in the in the history of the NFL that
he had like his own signature because in Nike get
I think it was like eight to ten million dollar
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cleat sponsorship or something like that. But I think he
had gotten a deal with Nike in the prime of
his career when he was taking off in New York
because Nike realized, oh, this guy's the goods like that,
that's what we want to align ourselves with.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I just I know, like Jesse Armstead is one of
my buddies, and he's been working with the Giants for
a really long time, and he was telling me that
the amount of of media that were there when OBJ
was at the height of his popularities, he's never seen
it before like it. They were the media outlets were
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there covering him as if something happened. That's how that's
how famous and how popular he was as an iconic figure.
He said that it was during training camp. They said
it was. It was just droves and droves of media
trucks and vans that were parked just to cover Obj,
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all for him, all for him.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
It was like it was he was transcended. Lee. What
do we got, can you? Uh, well, there's a few
things here.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
He did have signature cleats of course with Nike, the
vapor Untouchable pro threes, and of course he's kind of
been credited. He credits himself with inventing the cleat game
with the custom footwear that players would wear before games. Uh,
but if you wanted to do a deep dive into
signature cleats, you're actually looking at Sanders Walter Payton.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Actually all right? Ever, with the ruse yes, these.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Dion Sanders definitely had a signature shue. Maybe it was
the Jackson They had a signature shoe. But I was
just going to wait and see what wo Jackson Randy Moss.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Only nineteen players have received their own shoes apparently was it?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
But I think maybe it was Nike was the It
was Nike's first signature.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Was maybe that? Maybe that's right? Yeah, what do you
mean Nike's first signature.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
It was the first, Nike's first signature cleat.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Deal was with OBJ. What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Well, Ruse did Walter Payton like they were called objs.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Is what do you mean? Yeah, like his signature cleat?
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Yeah, I guess they're called the vapor threes. But what
you're saying is Nike's first signature cleat would would have
been with OBJ.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Really, who are the who are the nineteen players got
signature cleats? Who were the nineteen players?
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Let's see?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I think it would have been d On Man, Deon
or Bo Jackson would have been the first ones if
you asked me six Yeah, I think it would have
been be On what but it could have been Bo Jackson.
It's one of them too.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Bo was actually Bo was with Nike nineteen eighty six,
Deon Sanders nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
But when did their sneaker come out? Like when did
they they had a sneaker and a cleat. So basically
what I said was wrong.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
Yeah, it is really okay, Okay, and Smith, Barry Sanders,
Jerome Bettis, Randy Moss, Michael.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Vick Junior say, I have his own, Danian.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
Tomlinson, Reggie Bush, Cam Newton, DARRYL Reeves, Calvin Johns, Darrell
Darrell I know whatever people are called Darryl Russell, Wilson,
JJ Wall there's there you go, Patrick mahoone, there you go,
JJ Watt up top.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
And Patrick mAbs all right.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Okay, by the way, the Ruse Dan Byer Fox Sports
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Speaker 4 (28:25):
Be that guy. So that's just never gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
But yeah, listen, OBJ, Yeah, he probably never wanted to
leave the Giants because if he would to stay in
that market and continue to produce, I I guess it's
a superstar people showing up the training camp just to
see a wide receive.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
A guy like Victor Cruz is still relevant, strong within
the media, loved, like respected and is able to like
navigate being Victor Cruz. I mean, and it's the same
type of deal, like he date that type of you know,
(29:02):
those type of that that dating pool next level Yeah
oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Oh yeah, what do you mean by that, like, you.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Know, like entertain entertainer type dating you know, like celebrity dating.
You know, a lot of guys don't. They don't do that.
They don't get into those they're not able to get
into the celebrity pool where they can date people of
that like higher higher up stature and status, you know.
(29:34):
But but guys like Victor Cruz and OBJ do a
very fine job of being able to you know, live
in those spaces.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
So there you go. I mean, listen, a lot of
a lot of spaces for for OBJ.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Depending on he's the first one to do a deal
in bitcoin though, isn't he. I think that's what he's
the first to do, if I if I don't, if
I recall correctly.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, and I think his Uh, they were making fun
of him because he's like a portion of his contract
he wanted him bitcoin. And then when bitcoin ended up
hitting a short time ago, he was celebrating. He was
taking a victory lap on was.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
He Yeah, yeah, because he did get some of it
in bitcoin, right, And uh.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Well, I always remember it was Russell o'coon who had
the bitcoin contract.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
What did he do it before Obj? I think so?
I think he was the first.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I mean, if Russell o'coon did his whole entire contract
in bitcoin and cashed out at the right time.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Why you make that phase, bro?
Speaker 1 (30:39):
No, I'm just you know, I'm just listen, I'm just
thinking about I'm just saying he doing all right?
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Yeah, he is? Sure is. By the way.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
His five hundred thousand dollars signing bonus in bitcoin in
twenty twenty one, OBJ did, OBJ did, but Russell beat
him the year before twenty twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
The year before twenty million.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
Thirteen million of his twenty one million converted to bitcoin.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
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Speaker 3 (32:48):
All right, so you got the Vancouver duo that took
off to Canada.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Yeah, so Lee and Lorena.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, no, no, no, it's Lee Reina Yeah Lee Raina spilled
the b had to go.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Excellent fun time. I think we came out pretty unscathed. Yeah,
oh gosh.
Speaker 7 (33:09):
Made the trip there easy, peasy.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
I think uh Coop Coop and his uhop coop.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Loop and his wife.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
They cut it pretty damn close.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
They got in right as they were closing the.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Doors from Lax to Vancouver.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Oh really, yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
They We were trying to be nice to them and
say like, hey, you should get here at this time.
This is how long it's gonna take to get security,
this is how long it's going to get to the gate,
and they're like noa, noa, no, stop bothering us. And
they showed up sweating and panting and tried to play
it cool like they weren't.
Speaker 7 (33:35):
But I made them nervous by telling them what time.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
They wait was gonna So what time was? What time
did the flight leave?
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Well, the flight took off the door close probably eleven ten,
eleven eleven or eleven ten, so took off at what
like eleven thirty?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Yeah, so the flight was just supposed to take off
at eleven thirty. Yeah, and they walked onto the plane
at eleven ten.
Speaker 7 (33:57):
Yeah, like literally as the doors were closing.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Yeah, what what what are they doing?
Speaker 7 (34:03):
He thought they you know, I think Coop was trying
to prove a point he was, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Because we were trying to tell him, and he's like,
he wanted an extra half hour sleep.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Extra half hour sleep. It's eleven in the morning. Get
the extra half hour on the planet. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Right.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
That was probably the most stressful thing of the whole
trip though.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Yeah, we nailed it.
Speaker 7 (34:21):
It was so nice, one of the best vacations I've
ever had.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
And how was my drinking over the weekend, Lorena, I
don't even think you drank.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Well, I was drinking. I was definitely drinking the whole time.
Speaker 7 (34:32):
No, he definitely drank. But like I've never he never
got deliterate, He never blacked out, he was never incoherent,
he never fell, he never stumbled his words.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Even you lost it, Lee or he was having a
good time past you're primely he was just focused in
on other things.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
You know, when you're happy and you just don't need
to be drunk.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
All the time.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Oh wow, what are you saying?
Speaker 7 (34:53):
Damn, I just think when you're in a bad mood.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
A good time. Was he happy about that? He was happy.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
I just told you we had the best vacation like ever.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Did you catch the keyword? Yeah, you got it. And
as long as you caught the keyword Jonas, I caught
it too. I've got several key words so far.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Oh wow.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
And we we hit all the tourist attractions, all this
stuff our vacation we did.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Uh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (35:19):
We did have a great time. Yeah, I got he
was my partner in crime.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Yeah, we got some good hiking in crime.
Speaker 7 (35:28):
Oh my gosh, we hiked.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
How many crime scenes did you guys?
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Never mind the food up there?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
How is Vancouver's food delicious?
Speaker 6 (35:40):
I'm not a huge delicious No, I'm not a huge
poutine guy.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
But we did. We did a nice mission. It's gravy
and what I think it?
Speaker 1 (35:49):
But what what's it to you?
Speaker 7 (35:54):
You talking about those late night snacks part?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
It was great with the tuesdayese Curd was telling me
it was pretty good. It was interesting because in Vancouver,
not a lot of people barbecue. What they do is
they cook their food underneath the spoon that wow. Yeah,
(36:17):
a lot of a lot of a drug paraphernalia flying
around there.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Yeah, were right in the.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Heart of downtown Vancouver. You can get yourself pretty much
anything you're looking for. In fact, they'll just hand it
over to you. Apparently over at the U they take
care of the streets there. You know what, as far
as downtown cleanest downtown I've ever seen, it's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Even though people are there doing what they want to
do wherever they want to do it, somebody's cleaning up
after him.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
So good on that. The only thing I missed out
on was some whale watching.
Speaker 7 (36:48):
I wanted to see some more because we will love
to see a moose too. Didn't see a.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Moose as many moose did y'all have? Uh? Did y'all
have syrup?
Speaker 7 (36:57):
I bought syrup, you know, because.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
The maple apparently the maple syrup is ridiculous from Canada.
Speaker 7 (37:06):
I brought an extra one if you want it.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Well, maybe Arney Spaniard is a big maple syrup blow
hard because he's from Vermont, So I don't know if.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
There's that was my thing.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
I was like, I have four different maple syrups in
my fridge because of Arney, so I didn't.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Want to try. The bacon.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Bacon was delicious, Grape and dive bar across the Canadian bacon.
Oh no, I don't like Canadian bacon.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
No him, real bacon. They do it. There you go.
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we start off our two of the program talking about growth,
(01:19):
potential growth. Now, conflicting reports on this, right, So the
NFLPA is trying to say no, no, no, this is
not the case. But according to Mike Florio and per
a source with knowledge of the situation, NFLPA Executive Director
Lloyd Howell has been actively discussing the pros and cons
(01:41):
of a four team European division. That's because the NFLPA
is preparing for the push from the league to try
and grow overseas, ultimately resulting in a division in the
NFL that would be in Europe. Now, Lloyd Howell did
(02:01):
respond and say player members are in regular discussion with
the NFLPA about international games and related to health and
safety issues, but no one is actively preparing for a
European division. Well you can say that, but it does
feel like eventually this is where this is going. And
(02:23):
I just wonder, and we've talked about the sixteen game
international schedule that they've thrown in there, and just how
would this work and how does this look? I wonder
if that's Roger Goodell in the NFL sort of their
soft launch into NFL in Europe and potentially growing. And
we've heard this before, having four teams playing over in
(02:44):
Europe and making that be one of the divisions in
the NFL somehow someway. As much as I can't stand it,
I'm good with the way that it is. The NFL
is always looking for growth, and it feels like Europe
is the place that.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
It may happen. I mean, but they've tried.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's before, I mean, and maybe not like this, but
it's been They've tried numerous times to create world leagues.
Football just isn't widely participated in like soccer. And that's okay.
I understand what. I guess the thought process of trying
(03:24):
to expand the borders, trying to to make the game
more you know, globalized, I get that, but I don't know.
I think that there has to be an understanding, and
which it's not. It's not in my wheelhouse to try
to figure it out. So maybe it is taking place
(03:45):
under Roger Goodell to understand the market well enough to
maybe capture the NFL fans that are there. That I mean,
I think they've done a great job at excellent job
of what they've been able to do with the games
that are played there. I've been to a couple of them.
I've experienced it. It is a spectacle, but you have
(04:08):
a lot you have a lot of people who don't
understand the game, and they go because it's a spectacle.
They go for the meeting of people, They go to
have a good time, could be a date, go for
the food, whatever it may be. And you may be like, well,
how do you know that, because I'll go see a
team that's playing, and the two teams that are playing,
(04:29):
you'll see a whole bunch of different team jerseys being
warned by the fans that are there. And then what's
interesting is is that the fans kind of pick and
choose who they want to chair for and that becomes
almost like the de facto home team, like, oh, we're
going to chair more for this team. But for the
most part, you'll see you'll hear jeers and cheers after
(04:53):
every big play. It's not a home field advantage, you know,
So it's an ow and I oh, it's a h yeah,
it's it's not a it's weird. It's not a you know,
like you know, Joan is because he plays for this team,
and that's your team they're representing, you know, their team.
That's not what you have there. And I just wonder
(05:15):
what that what that create? Would it create a better
environment if you created this four team division? Are they playing?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Are they all playing out wimberly?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Because I mean I would assume that those four teams
are going to have to travel quite a bit to
come here to play other teams in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Correct, Yeah, that's the other part of it, like travel,
Like logistically, how does this work? How does it work?
It just feels like And I would also say this,
if you're the NFL and you really want to get
people in London or in Europe excited about the game,
maybe you shouldn't have sent the Jaguars over first, because
(05:57):
there's probably people in London.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Going, is this what you guys love? Like this, like
like we're supposed to be excited about this? This team sucks?
What are we doing here.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Listening to what you just said and what we just said?
Like I guess that would be the difference for what
they did in the past and what they didn't play
each other in the past, Like when they created NFL
euro they were playing each other it was just their league,
because this would actually entail them playing teams in the
(06:34):
National it's a National Football League division that could have
the CACHE connected to it. That makes sense. And then
if you get those names like I don't know how
big NFL names are European wise, Like I feel like
some names like.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Move the needle a little bit, a little bit.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I mean, if you'd have had, you know, I would
assume that you have a Tom Brady that moves the
needle abroad. If you have, you know, maybe right now
a Patrick Mahomes or a Dak Prescott maybe that moves
the needle abroad.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
But how many players do you really.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Have that are a drawing card a big ticket for
selling tickets to come watch? What are you what are
you selling? You know, in terms of advertisement wise, what
are you connecting to these these TV deals that you
would want to do over there to try to get
the type of money that you're going to generate. These
(07:33):
are all questions that would have to be answered and
understood and making that type of decision. What is what
is attractive to that market about the NFL player, the
NFL game and the community that's connected to.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
What about from a player standpoint, would you want to
play in.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Your I would say, if I could identify, and this
is just me personally, because I was always trying to
identify how am I able to integrate and acclimate to
one serving this community for one and for two, what
am I doing after I'm done playing? So if I
(08:15):
could identify something like for me I could have, I
would have been fine. Because I chose to go into media.
I wanted to be a media personality. I wanted to write,
I wanted to do television, I wanted to do radio.
So that was something that was important to me, and
I started building while I was playing in Washington.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
So if I'm in if I'm in Europe, you know
they got what's it called sky? I believe it's called
sports Sports.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, so I would have been I think there are
things that would be attractive.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
It's a beautiful place. There's a lot going on. The
euro is stronger than the American dollar now. That can
play against you or it could play for you, depending
on how you look at it. Right Like, if I'm
making money and I'm saving money and I'm living modestly
in Europe, and I decided to come back home and
(09:08):
live in America. I don't know how all that works,
but I would assume I'm getting more bang for my
buck when I bring my buck here from what I'm
making over there. There's a lot of things to consider
and to think about that would play a part in this.
Where are the players coming from? Are they coming from America?
Are they European players? How does that work? You know
(09:29):
what I mean? Like, there's a lot of questions.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
That would have to be it would you'd be drafted
into that division and that team in Europe, just as
you would be drafted into any other team in the day.
I just think there's a lot because now you got
like a dual citizenship tea situation, Like I just wonder
how that would would work. And I know some people
may say, well, isn't that how it would work with
the Canadian Football League, Like, I don't think it would
(09:54):
work that way. Well, maybe the setup of you having
a working visa and stuff like that. I mean, people
play abroad all the time, you know, they play people
go abroad to play professionally all the time. But as
it applies to playing for an American.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
League abroad, how does that work?
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I mean, I know, you got you have it in basketball,
you have it in hockey, you even have it in baseball.
You have pro teams franchises that are in Canada. But
how does that work? Canada's right here for one, that's
just that's right a part of like North America. Like
we're right here. You could drive to it. But this
(10:37):
is different. This is your going over over the pond.
This is a different You're asking a different type of
commitment level from these athletes and they got to be
away from Like at least your family can fly to
see you.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Or drive to see you.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
If you're playing somewhere in the States, how is your
family going to be a part of your life? And
that's a changing you're really changing your lifestyle. There's there's
there's a difference in culture, different in in in language.
Not so much a language barrier because they speak English,
but it's still different. Lee, what's a flight? How long
(11:13):
is a flight from Seattle to London? Like, what what's
that flight time?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
If we're guessing, I'm gonna say eight hours gotta be
or maybe ten I'll say like eight hours, seven eight hours,
we're looking at nine and a half hours.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
So think about that one.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Like, if you're the Seahawks and you're playing the you know,
the London butter Teeth or whatever they like, but whatever,
Like I said, whatever, whatever their team name is. And
you've like you're yeah, you're you're playing Yeah, you're playing
the London Crumpets. So you've got to fly nine and
a half hours to go see. I mean, just there's
(11:56):
just and this is my question, is the well completely
dry here in the States that you've got to do this,
because I feel like maybe there's some other markets in
the US that are looking at this going and man,
what about us, Like if you're San Diego, Hey, can
we get our team back?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
You know what I mean? Like we can we like,
can we get something here? I mean West southern California.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
You're talking about three teams and or well two teams
in this market. You got two teams in this market, right,
Pennsylvania has two teams in Pennsylvania, Like you have states
that support more than one pro team in the National
Football Chicago could probably have a second team.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
They've got two baseball teams, They've got New York's got
two teams. I just I feel like there's possibilities here
within the States that you could work on as opposed
to now let's just let's go take it.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
It does it does make you wonder why that is
there are or some markets Texas could handle it. Yeah,
san Antonio, the Oilers were there, they left, you know,
so I mean and you have the Texans now, so
you have you.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Got together Dallas, Boston, San Antonio could carry a team.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
San Antonio probably could support a team. I just I
just think there's places where like what about Oklahoma? There
are some places. Why is there not a pro football team?
You took a pro league to Alabama? Why do you
not have a pro team in Alabama? I feel like,
(13:34):
and again, there has to be a very very there
has to be a real defined reason as to why
this what we're saying isn't happening, and why there's such
a concentrated and focused thought on making that move to Europe.
(13:55):
There's a reason why we just I don't know that
we're privy to. I don't know that that's playing view
as to why it's so valuable to try to penetrate
that market the way that the NFL is trying to do.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Yeah, but there's a reason.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
There is a reason, and it goes beyond just conventionally
saying why not just expand in the States. They have
done that, they have expanded at times within the States.
There's gotta be a reason why, like this, whoa, this
is why? I just don't know what that is.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Well, I mean, you know the I guess the easy
answer would be, you know, financially, the global takeover, the
money in Europe, you know that they want this, they
want to keep growing the game. I mean, at a
certain point, you just got to come to terms with
the fact that other parts of the world don't give
a rip about the NFL.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
They really don't do they really do, which.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Is fine, Like go go enjoy cricket, Go do whatever
you guys like to do, and have fun with that.
There's nothing wrong with the NFL just being ours. And
I just feel like there's there's other ways that you
can probably grow the sport here as opposed to sending
an entire division over to Europe.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
You know, I mean.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Six Like, look at sixteen international games in a season.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
That's a lot. I mean, and now we're.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Talking about and even with your viewing audience here, you know,
if you're going to watch that game, I mean, it's
definitely off the beating path of how you're going to
view a game. It's very early. You got to get
up very early to be able to see it. If
you're on the East coast, it's pretty early. If you're
on the West coast, it's crazy early. It's crazy early.
It's like what a nine am.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Game or something like six thirty local time out here?
It's crazy, man. Play. So it's very different. Man. What
about Hawaii? Like fans listening in Hawaii on you know
the edit and they're five hours behind us, right the
tiki torch of the Hawaiian? Is that what it is?
Throughout Fox Sports Night three hours, three hours, three hours.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Because they don't do daylight savings, So I think it's
renow and two.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
In the fall. I believe whatever it is. You know,
Arizona doesn't do that either. Yeah. Interesting, I don't know, man.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I just I mean, if they see it and it
makes sense and it works, I get it. But I
just think that there are a lot of serious issues
that have to be addressed, and I think a lot
of it will have to do with the mental health
and the emotional health of your players. If you're bringing
players from America over there to go to go play,
(16:37):
I know the conventional fan will sit there and be like,
you get in the opportunity to go make millions of
dollars and play at the professional game and it's a
kid's game, and then and then go do your job.
And people do that all the time. I know people
will say that, and that's fine, but again, you grew
up here playing the game. You worked your ass off
(16:59):
to to make it through high school, make it to
a college, and play well enough to have the opportunity
to play in the pro level in the Pro League.
I would assume, just like you go through having homesickness
when you go to college and you have to deal
with go to college, you're going to have a little
bit of homesickness when you go to the pros and
(17:22):
unless you go to your hometown. So imagine if you're
going to go through that going to a franchise that's
here in the States. What is that going to look like?
What is that going to feel like when you're going
through the colder months of the year and you're abroad.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
I swear to God, if I got drafted by a
European team and I get picked up by the airport,
the second I see that guy driving in the wrong
side of the car.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
I'd retire. That's it. I'm out of here. This is
not worth my time.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
This guy can't even figure out which side of the
car to drive on, and you expect me to play
games here f that?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
But hey, good luck. We'll see it someday.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
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Speaker 4 (18:32):
Aw Houses on the Street.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Yeah, I'm sure there was a lot of tossy involved
with songs like yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
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Odell Beckham Junior, who was oh lesson there's a lot
(19:10):
of a lot of reports about OBJ recently. But nonetheless
he was on Golazo, which I'm assuming is a a
soccer show. I guess it's a soccer show. I was
gonna watch it, but I just carried on living my life.
And so Odell Beckham Junior was speaking about his time
(19:32):
with the New York Giants and apparently he didn't want
it to end.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
For me, it's like the New York Giants, like I
never ever wanted to leave the New York Giants. The
reason you heard me talking about what was going on
is because I was pissed because where I come from
in college, if we lost one game, our season was over.
This was an organization I got drafted to. They believed
in me. So if the Giants went and won a
Super Bowl, I would be happy. But deep down inside,
(19:57):
I wanted to be the woman of the one I
ain't want, no question, So it's definitely you always hold that.
But then you know someone like me, I went to
the l A Rams won a Super Bowl, you know,
you know, you know, like I.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Still you just wrote that.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
So you were on a team that won the Super Bowl.
You know, he might have the way he was playing
early in that game, had he not got he might have.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Been the m v P.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
No, he might have got MVP of that game. I
think Cooper Cup did he? I think so Aaron Donald.
If Aaron Donald, that's what that is a freaking travesty
if Aaron Rodgers or Aaron Donald didn't get the MVP
of that game.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah, oh wow, it's a big win for the Obie.
Eight catches, ninety two yards, two touchdowns. What what did
Aaron Donald do in that game? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:56):
He see the game with a sack for certain. I mean, dude,
the dude was balling out of control in that game. Man.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
Four tackles so solo, five assists, and two sacks.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Two sacks in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (21:09):
Actually, that's that's including two games in Super Bowls.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
That's his career in Super Bowls.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Yeah, that one, he had three solo tackles, one assist
tackle and two sacks in that one.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
He had two sacks in that game. Yep. I mean
he was making some big plays in that game. You know,
he is the most dominant dude.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Don't don't mess with the amish. Learned your lesson, way
to go, Cooper Cup.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Nice job.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Now I look at because Odell Beckham can say, well, look,
you know I ended up, you know, going to win
a super Bowl. There was a point in time where
he was the reason you would have been in the
super Bowl. Well, and also he was the biggest non
quarterback star in the league. There were like that was like,
there was a time he was.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
The biggest star in the league. I was almost gonna
say that, you don't even put a qualify your there.
There was a moment in time he was the biggest
star with a Tom Brady in the league. He was
the biggest star in the league.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
And I look at it and I go, his career
is going to be one of the great what ifs.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
And I'll bet part of his you know.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Yeah, I didn't want to leave New York and I
was frustrated, and he would call out there because I
think he realized because after that, I mean he went
to Cleveland. He had a decent year after that, but
after his first three years with the Giants, he never
was quite the same. The injury started to pile up.
But yeah, he was the star of the NFL. And
to make that catch in primetime on Sunday Night Football
(22:43):
against the Cowboys, the way he did, he was off
like a rocket ship.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
It's almost part of you could almost say you started
seeing him crash out a little bit, just based off
of the amount of fame that he had.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Remember the Josh Norman stuff. Him and Josh Normal would
be going at it. Remember when he was fighting against
the field goal Nat kicking. I mean, I just he
his fame transcended being a football player. It got to
a point where OBJ was a brand all its own.
(23:18):
It was not a It was not, oh, this is
a football player. The dance is the fashion. I mean,
he was really in a lot of ways. I say
that could have been as undoing as a player, honestly
in New York and in the market, but it was
certainly not an undoing of his brand. I mean, if
(23:43):
you walk around and you see OBJ, you're still going
to it's still a recognizable brand.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Star power, it's star power.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
He created star power, like a star power that was
beyond being a football player, star plower. It was like
rock star like he was approaching like rock star status
and how popular and famous he was as a football player.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Welle, I think he can you look this up because
I think OBJ was the first NFL player to have
his own cleat. I think he was the first guy
to have his own signature cleat and that might have
been in the in the history of the NFL that
he had like his own signature because in Nike get
I think it was like eight to ten million dollar
(24:31):
cleat sponsorship or something like that. But I think he
had gotten a deal with Nike in the prime of
his career when he was taking off in New York
because Nike realized, oh, this guy's the goods like that,
that's what we want to align ourselves with.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
I just I know, like Jesse Armstead is one of
my buddies, and he's been working with the Giants for
a really long time, and he was telling me that
the amount of of media that were there when OBJ
was at the height of his popularities, he's never seen
it before like it. They were the media outlets were
(25:12):
there covering him as if something happened. That's how that's
how famous and how popular he was as an iconic figure.
He said that it was during training camp. They said
it was. It was just droves and droves of media
trucks and vans that were parked just to cover Obj,
(25:39):
all for him, all for him.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
It was like it was he was transcended. Lee. What
do we got, can you? Uh, well, there's a few
things here.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
He did have signature cleats of course with Nike, the
vapor Untouchable pro threes, and of course he's kind of
been credited. He credits himself with inventing the cleat game
with the custom footwear that players would wear before games. Uh,
but if you wanted to do a deep dive into
signature cleats, you're actually looking at Sanders Walter Payton.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Actually all right? Ever, with the ruse yes, these.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Dion Sanders definitely had a signature shue. Maybe it was
the Jackson They had a signature shoe. But I was
just going to wait and see what wo Jackson Randy Moss.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Only nineteen players have received their own shoes apparently was it?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
But I think maybe it was Nike was the It
was Nike's first signature.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Was maybe that? Maybe that's right? Yeah, what do you
mean Nike's first signature.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
It was the first, Nike's first signature cleat.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Deal was with OBJ. What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Well, Ruse did Walter Payton like they were called objs.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Is what do you mean? Yeah, like his signature cleat?
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Yeah, I guess they're called the vapor threes. But what
you're saying is Nike's first signature cleat would would have
been with OBJ.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Really, who are the who are the nineteen players got
signature cleats? Who were the nineteen players?
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Let's see?
Speaker 1 (27:04):
I think it would have been d On Man, Deon
or Bo Jackson would have been the first ones if
you asked me six Yeah, I think it would have
been be On what but it could have been Bo Jackson.
It's one of them too.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
Bo was actually Bo was with Nike nineteen eighty six,
Deon Sanders nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
But when did their sneaker come out? Like when did
they they had a sneaker and a cleat. So basically
what I said was wrong.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
Yeah, it is really okay, Okay, and Smith, Barry Sanders,
Jerome Bettis, Randy Moss, Michael.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Vick Junior say, I have his own, Danian.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
Tomlinson, Reggie Bush, Cam Newton, DARRYL Reeves, Calvin Johns, Darrell
Darrell I know whatever people are called Darryl Russell, Wilson,
JJ Wall there's there you go, Patrick mahoone, there you go,
JJ Watt up top.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
And Patrick mAbs all right.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Okay, by the way, the Ruse Dan Byer Fox Sports
Radio Living Legend Dan Byer gave me a Walter Payton
Ruse headband and my son wears it when he plays football. Now,
I was trying to show him old Walter Payton highlights
and I think even my son acknowledgey, I'll never.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Be that guy. So that's just never gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
But yeah, listen, OBJ, Yeah, he probably never wanted to
leave the Giants because if he would to stay in
that market and continue to produce, I I guess it's
a superstar people showing up the training camp just to
see a wide receive.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
A guy like Victor Cruz is still relevant, strong within
the media, loved, like respected and is able to like
navigate being Victor Cruz. I mean, and it's the same
type of deal, like he date that type of you know,
(29:02):
those type of that that dating pool next level Yeah
oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Oh yeah, what do you mean by that, like, you.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Know, like entertain entertainer type dating you know, like celebrity dating.
You know, a lot of guys don't. They don't do that.
They don't get into those they're not able to get
into the celebrity pool where they can date people of
that like higher higher up stature and status, you know.
(29:34):
But but guys like Victor Cruz and OBJ do a
very fine job of being able to you know, live
in those spaces.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
So there you go. I mean, listen, a lot of
a lot of spaces for for OBJ.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Depending on he's the first one to do a deal
in bitcoin though, isn't he. I think that's what he's
the first to do, if I if I don't, if
I recall correctly.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, and I think his Uh, they were making fun
of him because he's like a portion of his contract
he wanted him bitcoin. And then when bitcoin ended up
hitting a short time ago, he was celebrating. He was
taking a victory lap on was.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
He Yeah, yeah, because he did get some of it
in bitcoin, right, And uh.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
Well, I always remember it was Russell o'coon who had
the bitcoin contract.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
What did he do it before Obj? I think so?
I think he was the first.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I mean, if Russell o'coon did his whole entire contract
in bitcoin and cashed out at the right time.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Why you make that phase, bro?
Speaker 1 (30:39):
No, I'm just you know, I'm just listen, I'm just
thinking about I'm just saying he doing all right?
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Yeah, he is? Sure is. By the way.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
His five hundred thousand dollars signing bonus in bitcoin in
twenty twenty one, OBJ did, OBJ did, but Russell beat
him the year before twenty twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
The year before twenty million.
Speaker 6 (31:02):
Thirteen million of his twenty one million converted to bitcoin.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
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Speaker 2 (32:39):
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Speaker 3 (32:48):
All right, so you got the Vancouver duo that took
off to Canada.
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Yeah, so Lee and Lorena.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Yeah, no, no, no, it's Lee Reina Yeah Lee Raina spilled
the b had to go.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
Excellent fun time. I think we came out pretty unscathed. Yeah,
oh gosh.
Speaker 7 (33:09):
Made the trip there easy, peasy.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
I think uh Coop Coop and his uhop coop.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Loop and his wife.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
They cut it pretty damn close.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
They got in right as they were closing the.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Doors from Lax to Vancouver.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Oh really, yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
They We were trying to be nice to them and
say like, hey, you should get here at this time.
This is how long it's gonna take to get security,
this is how long it's going to get to the gate,
and they're like noa, noa, no, stop bothering us. And
they showed up sweating and panting and tried to play
it cool like they weren't.
Speaker 7 (33:35):
But I made them nervous by telling them what time.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
They wait was gonna So what time was? What time
did the flight leave?
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Well, the flight took off the door close probably eleven ten,
eleven eleven or eleven ten, so took off at what
like eleven thirty?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Yeah, so the flight was just supposed to take off
at eleven thirty. Yeah, and they walked onto the plane
at eleven ten.
Speaker 7 (33:57):
Yeah, like literally as the doors were closing.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Yeah, what what what are they doing?
Speaker 7 (34:03):
He thought they you know, I think Coop was trying
to prove a point he was, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:06):
Because we were trying to tell him, and he's like,
he wanted an extra half hour sleep.
Speaker 4 (34:09):
I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Extra half hour sleep. It's eleven in the morning. Get
the extra half hour on the planet. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Right.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
That was probably the most stressful thing of the whole
trip though.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Yeah, we nailed it.
Speaker 7 (34:21):
It was so nice, one of the best vacations I've
ever had.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
And how was my drinking over the weekend, Lorena, I
don't even think you drank.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Well, I was drinking. I was definitely drinking the whole time.
Speaker 7 (34:32):
No, he definitely drank. But like I've never he never
got deliterate, He never blacked out, he was never incoherent,
he never fell, he never stumbled his words.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Even you lost it, Lee or he was having a
good time past you're primely he was just focused in
on other things.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
You know, when you're happy and you just don't need
to be drunk.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
All the time.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Oh wow, what are you saying?
Speaker 7 (34:53):
Damn, I just think when you're in a bad mood.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
A good time. Was he happy about that? He was happy.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
I just told you we had the best vacation like ever.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Did you catch the keyword? Yeah, you got it. And
as long as you caught the keyword Jonas, I caught
it too. I've got several key words so far.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Oh wow.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
And we we hit all the tourist attractions, all this
stuff our vacation we did.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Uh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (35:19):
We did have a great time. Yeah, I got he
was my partner in crime.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
Yeah, we got some good hiking in crime.
Speaker 7 (35:28):
Oh my gosh, we hiked.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
How many crime scenes did you guys?
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Never mind the food up there?
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
How is Vancouver's food delicious?
Speaker 6 (35:40):
I'm not a huge delicious No, I'm not a huge
poutine guy.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
But we did. We did a nice mission. It's gravy
and what I think it?
Speaker 1 (35:49):
But what what's it to you?
Speaker 7 (35:54):
You talking about those late night snacks part?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
It was great with the tuesdayese Curd was telling me
it was pretty good. It was interesting because in Vancouver,
not a lot of people barbecue. What they do is
they cook their food underneath the spoon that wow. Yeah,
(36:17):
a lot of a lot of a drug paraphernalia flying
around there.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Yeah, were right in the.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Heart of downtown Vancouver. You can get yourself pretty much
anything you're looking for. In fact, they'll just hand it
over to you. Apparently over at the U they take
care of the streets there. You know what, as far
as downtown cleanest downtown I've ever seen, it's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Even though people are there doing what they want to
do wherever they want to do it, somebody's cleaning up
after him.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
So good on that. The only thing I missed out
on was some whale watching.
Speaker 7 (36:48):
I wanted to see some more because we will love
to see a moose too. Didn't see a.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Moose as many moose did y'all have? Uh? Did y'all
have syrup?
Speaker 7 (36:57):
I bought syrup, you know, because.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
The maple apparently the maple syrup is ridiculous from Canada.
Speaker 7 (37:06):
I brought an extra one if you want it.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Well, maybe Arney Spaniard is a big maple syrup blow
hard because he's from Vermont, So I don't know if.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
There's that was my thing.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
I was like, I have four different maple syrups in
my fridge because of Arney, so I didn't.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Want to try. The bacon.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Bacon was delicious, Grape and dive bar across the Canadian bacon.
Oh no, I don't like Canadian bacon.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
No him, real bacon. They do it. There you go.
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