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It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
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Speaker 4 (00:43):
How about this one?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Huh, LaVar Arrington, Jonas NOx.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
With you here?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Hey man, how was the Rogan and Rodney show? Man?
I wasn't for you to.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Hang out, my guy, Rodney Pete, you know, got to smooth.
It's always good to uh to see them find folks
over there. They do a tremendous job, you know, the
old p Petricks pop with us here. Yeah, Fred's awesome,
but all those guys are Kevin Figures who people here
here on Fox Sports Radios. Over there, ron Ronnie Foscio
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is awesome, Like all those guys are great. So yeah,
it's fun to fill in. Uh, you know, talk a
little bit about the Dodgers. I mean it's really the
only successful franchise in southern California right now. I mean,
you know, the Rams won a Super Bowl recently, the
Chargers still trying to figure it out.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
But the Dodgers, Dodgers, I mean, you got that.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
And and for people listening across the country, like the
Dodgers are a massive deal out here, like.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
It is like I would have never I mean, man,
and I played in New York, so I know what
massive deals over you know baseball franchises look like. I mean, man,
I want to say, is it not that close like
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the way people maybe because I don't know, but you
have the Stros out here or I mean the Angels,
I mean not the Strokes. You have the Angels and
they're in like what what like the OC they're in
Orange County.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
But I mean, you know what's fascinating about it is
so shoheo. Tani's unbelievable, Like the guys, he's must watch
every time he comes up.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And he hasn't even started.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
To pay a cyborg.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, and he hasn't even started pitching yet, and he's
just tremendous.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
What the guy does you know?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
We like we're talking rarefied Air, one of the great players,
potentially of all time in the history of the sport.
He was in this market ish for years. Yeah, like
right down right down the five Freeway and nobody cared.
Literally nobody cared. Second he gets to the Dodgers completely
takes off. I mean, people are when they have a
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show Heyo Tani bobblehead and they've done like five of them.
People show up to the stadium three hours before the
gates even open just to get the bobblehead. Like they're there,
Like people would call in.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
A bobblehead for you.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I mean they.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
People would call in and they'd be hanging out in
the parking lot. They'd bring to go food and they'd
just be sitting there just waiting for the gates to ope.
And it's like, dude, the gatestone open for three hours. No, no, no,
Like they got to get their hands on it. So
like the fever is real. Like people love the Dodgers,
they love this place. So yeah, we got to talk
a lot about the Dodgers' potential issues, injuries and all
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that stuff that go along with it.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
By the way.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
We also had somebody reach out here and they demanded
that we get more in case you missed it from
Lee because they felt like the segment wasn't long enough.
I felt like we did an adequate job pointing out,
you know, the the interesting things that you know high
school sport or allows here in California and what they
and what they don't allow.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
But Lvar, if you're up for it, Lee says, He's
got a.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Couple of more.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Good thing.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
The guys are here to bring you in case you
missed it, And for that we turn it back over
to our executive producer, Lead Lap.
Speaker 6 (04:24):
Good morning again, everybody. Good morning Jonas, Good morning LeVar.
You want more stories? I got more stories for you.
How about this, guys, in case you missed it. PACER's
owner Herb Simon and the Simon family have decided to
reward full time employees with another edition of road Trip.
He's chartered a couple of planes for all full time employees,
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including three or four guests, to go to Games one
and two of the NBA Finals in Oklahoma City.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (04:53):
That's cute?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I mean, now, does he pay for drinks and food
and everything to go along with it or is it
just the flight in the hotel?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
You know, idly, they'd probably give them for dem.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Yeah, probably a little pre diem. You know, they did
something like this back in January when they played in
Paris versus The San Antonio Spurs said they lost a
lot of money on the Paris trip, but that the
player's staff and their families thoroughly enjoyed the experience.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Hmm, all right, interesting.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
You could do a little bit better than that. I mean,
that's a cool little story, But I mean.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
You want a better story.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Case in case I missed it, I would have been
okay missing that one regardless.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
So oh but well, if you want a better story,
I got a better story for you.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Come on.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
In case you missed this, noted attorney Tony Busby. We've
heard his name several times. Yeah, has decided to turn
down the lawsuit against Zion Williamson from his former ex
girlfriend Mariah Mills. Asked about it later, he said, a
member of our staff spoke to her. Busby said, after review,
we declined to take her case. We can't comment about
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the details or merits. Of her claims. As you know,
we are contacted by numerous people well across the United
States daily with grievances. We can't help them all. Some
of those we do take are resolved quietly. A number
filed and litigated, like the six hundred and forty million
dollar jury verdict we achieved a few weeks ago. Only
a small few become public. So I just because I think.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Lee was the one who had mentioned this that, you know,
he was like he obviously there's a movie called the
Wetter the Better or something like that.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
That Oh wow, yeah from Mariah.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Mills at Lee was a was a big fun.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Of I don't know how many how many delaps did
you give that, Lee?
Speaker 6 (06:32):
That would be uh three and a half delapse?
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Okay, I should watch that all right?
Speaker 4 (06:37):
Out of five?
Speaker 6 (06:38):
Out of five?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Hey, did y'all hear Cameron's take on it? It is
what it is? Podcast shots out to Cam and Killer
Well Mace Mason Bethick. I'll say this, BUZZBYA. You can't
you can't fight every battle. You can't put ten toes
down on every hit. And in order to try to
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continue to maybe hold credibility for some of the outrageous
things that he's been associated with, or maybe the outrageous
way in which he has spoken in media and the
public about things that are going on with his clients
and the cases he's working on. You got to be
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selective because I tell you like this, you take on
a case like that with a person like her, and
you run the risk of losing the type of credibility
that you had and what it is that you do.
I mean, just go listen to what Cam had to
say about Mariah Mills. It's some of the wildest ass
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but he kept it all the way real. I mean,
she is an adult film star man, and you know,
it's like they have feelings too, they're people too. Yeah,
But I'm just saying, though, when you really get to see, like, Okay,
you made it based upon you know this, and and
she never made any real claims as to you know,
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him doing what he's being accused of by others. She
came out and said, I told you this was who
he was, and all this old other stuff. But if
you look at which I mean, yes, I'll admit I've
seen Mariah Mills. I've seen yeah, I've seen it. I've
seen I've seen her work. I mean she's not a slouch.
(08:31):
I'll say that. Yeah, No, she's not a slouch. She's
not like a you know, it's just simple type deal
like you know, press play extremes and then it's done.
Like it it gets a little graphic, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Lee, What would you since the Wedder the Better has
gets three and a half.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
To last, well, she would award.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I bet you she's got an award from the adult
the adult film.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Industry hiding somewhere.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
What is the uh? What? What feature films?
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Like?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
What well known movies would you rate the wet or
the Better better?
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Then?
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Like, which one's got three delapse? Like well known feature
films you've gotten to the movie to sup?
Speaker 6 (09:14):
Oh do you mean like The Green Door or Delhi? Does?
Speaker 5 (09:21):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I mean Jesus, like, don't go through your whole catalog.
I'm saying, like, what movie have you seen recently that
you would say, like a real like a movie you
saw in the theater with with Todd or whoever, that
you would say that only got three or below delapse
while The Wedder the Better got three point five.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Wes Anderson's The Phoenician Scheme not one of wes Anderson's
better films a very famous director, Wes Anderson's sixteenth feature
film or twelfth something doesn't matter. But on the lesser
scale of the wes Anderson's, I'd put Mariah Wills Mariah
Mills's The Wedder the Better at three and a half delapse. Hey,
over the three de lapse you got. You got the
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Phoenician Skin.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
You got P stars like it big, you got Baby
gat Boobs, which you got.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
You got r K Prime. I don't even know what
the hell that means.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
You got Ebony s tapes, you got Brown Bunnies, you
got big t round a, Brasiers goes Black. All right,
Now hold on, I'm gonna give you the star rating
(10:34):
Real Real Wife Stories six point six stars TV series,
Brasiers Extra five point two.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Hey, Lee, you gotta step your game.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Up, man.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Oh oh oh, hold on, Round and Brown six six
point nine stars for TV's.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Now we're talking.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I don't know how many that's out of I'm assuming
I'm assuming ten.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Now we're talking.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
I'm just saying, when you're getting that high of ranks
on your content on i am dB, you know the
the you know.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Lee, how many how many delaps did you give? Because
we know, you give the Wedder the better three point five?
How many delaps did you give rack as Black.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Or whatever it's called.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
That was a three nine. Yeah, so it's just a
little better, all right, just under And I'm looking up
for a v N history. I'm not seeing any awards
for it. For miss Mills, Wow, she was she was robbed.
It's like when DiCaprio got it for The Revenant. You
really should have gotten it for some other ones, but
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he got it for the Revenant. He begged for that
Oscar and the Revenant. It was awful.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Her birth name Raven Chester.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I mean, let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
If that's if that's the name you're giving, you got
very little options.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
By way, what you're gonna Why did he change her name?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, she went from what's what the industry name was
to to a regular name, Raven Riah Mills. You were
born Raven Chichester. That's a hell of an name, Chichester.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Come on.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
I mean, it's like, listen, if you give your kid
the first name Seymour, like he's probably not playing in
the NBA, you know what I mean, it's last name,
but yeah, probably just not playing in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Like it's just it is what it is.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Hey, Butch get over here. Hey, hey you but.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Seymour.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
Well listen, I think that. Uh, I like that clear
to our deskin for great and is if your name
is see more Butts. Yeah, you certainly are all right,
well done, Lee?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
So there it is.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
That was Did you have anything else?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Lee?
Speaker 6 (13:15):
Nothing that's going to top that, but you know I
always got a stack ready.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
And by the way, if you would like to know
any flick, whether you know the adult variety or feature
film or variety, and you'd like to know the the
lap score, send it over to Lee and you will
fire it off at lead to lap on on X.
So how many will find out? How many delaps you
give it?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Lee?
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Do you get those secret viewings like that you can't
talk about for the adult film film deals as well?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (13:43):
Yeah, back in well not in a while, but back
in my pizza delivery days, I delivered to a few
sets here and there, So yeah, you can say I
got it. I got an early screening once or twice.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Let you get early screenings? Yeah, like would you release
this one?
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Lead?
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (13:56):
They trying to get me to be an extra?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Whoa to wear a blindfold leewalk in. They're like, that
didn't feel like a door knob. Wait what all right?
Leave the pizzas.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Yeah, you're not far off hammers.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
All right, Well there it is. I think that cleared
it up. So hey Tony, I'm just glad.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
That we could relate that to sports.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
You know, thanks Zion, Hey Tony Buzzan you Tony Busby. Uh,
you know, using a little discretion when it comes to.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
That is crazy that man turned down that.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
That could have been a big one. You know, you
just never know.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Probably smart, Tony Buzzby, Yeah, probably smart move.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Uh. It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas knocks with you.
All right's coming up next here? Somebody could be on
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Speaker 2 (14:48):
You'll hear why right here on FSR.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
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Speaker 3 (15:05):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming up in
about twenty minutes from now, we are going to have
our Midweek Awards. It's the good, the bad, and the ugly.
They will be yours here on FSR. It's been a
big week for Saquon Barkley. Tell us why well, first
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and foremost, he's on the Madden cover. That is true,
So he is on the Madden cover. Congratulations of Saquoni too.
Was there the steak cheese steak plays what are they
called steak.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Wons kwon Yeah, kons boy, that's cool a kwon.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Yeah, out of Geno's right.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, that's like where the legendary ones are. That's that's
a legendary spot. And they like came in and decked it.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Out and dear god, oh there.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, but they like cheez whiz. That's a weird. It's
a weird deal for me, Like, I can't get into
a cheese whiz.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Philly cheese.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Steak and cheese was used to be that I remember,
gets so unhealthy to think about, but that was one
of the sandwiches my mom would make us when we
were kids. Is we would do uh miracle whipping cheese
whiz that's sound.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
You'd think it was. I'm telling you it sounds bad.
It ain't bad.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
The consistency of what that would create with yeah, I'm
sure it took years off our lives like that. That's
I'm not I'm not talking about the health aspects of it.
I'm just saying, cheese whiz comes out of a can.
And then and sometimes didn't cheese whiz come out of
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a jar?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
Sometimes? Maybe?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Yeah, was there a charge? You might be thinking of
the cheese that you spray out of the can.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
That's cheese. But cheese wiz comes out of a can.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, we edit out of the jar like it was
out of the jar. And that understand say.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
All I'm gonna say is that's disgusting. That's just it
comes in a can. It comes like it comes in
a spray can, aerosol, whatever kind of can it comes
out of like a like a miracle whip or what's
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the what's the whipped cream? Whipped cream type of container.
It's different containers. All I know is yeah, it's it's disgusting.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
It's a different container.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
It's disgusting.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Bro like like mayonnaise, mayo and and cheese whiz.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Did you miracle.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Did you toast the did you toast the bread? I
don't the bread. There's a possibility I could get on
board with you. There's a possibility I would say I
would have added baloney like coming up, because I know
what what you're getting at with a cheese whiz and
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miracle whip sandwich, like like that's a that's what you
call a humble beginning sandwich, right, I would have added blooney.
I don't know, baloney seemed like or even spamtros for
all I know. Back then that was just was what
it was, and there would.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Have had to have been toasted bread.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
We did do the we did do the blooney was
the Bolonian cheese, and uh there would be mayo and mustard.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Yeah I could do that. Yeah, I could do that.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
And if you even added a tomato and and some
lettuce to it, like if you had it, I could
you could do that?
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Yeah, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Did you ever did you ever fry your blooney before
you put it on your soul?
Speaker 4 (18:58):
God? No, no, I never. I used to fry to bologna.
We do.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
We just trusted whatever the supermarket gave to us. Now,
I didn't need to be cooked, even though even though
you had it, and it was like, huh, why what
does Why does the inside.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Of my mouth feel like weird?
Speaker 4 (19:12):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
What's what's going on there? So you just you just
trusted whatever the expiration date was on the on the
blowny packaging you.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Got so well Anyways, shouts out to Saquan. Yes, he
did get honored and in one of the most historical
areas in Philadelphia. Well deserved a lot of a lot
of adversity that he's overcome. Couldn't be happier for him,
as as an alumni and and obviously a fellow letterman
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and and all American. Couldn't be happier for him. He
is he has what any of us would would dream
of or hope for, is to find yourself in a
situation before it's too late to be able to have success.
And you know, so I'm happy for him, and I'm glad,
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you know, it's this kind of cool he's getting the cover.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I got a couple of questions about well, want A
concern first being can the giants get a break? I mean,
can can we like, can the giants just stop being
reminded of what they what they lost?
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Can they?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Can they stop be I mean the guy went from
I want to be here, I gotta be here. I'm
a giant. I love this place too. In what feels
like less than a year, two thousand yard rusher, super
Bowl champion on the cover of Madden name on a
Philly Cheese steak restaurant like should have been the league
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MVP and a new contract. Yeah so, I mean, and.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Beloved and loved by the ownership and by the community.
Obviously being a Penn Stater, I mean, he's in his market.
But and he had a fellow Penn State walking him
around when he was at the Philly.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Cheese steak spot. Did you see that?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, Big Dom was walking him around. Of course he
was pretty cool. Yeah, of course he was.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
So you know what, you know, can the Giants ever
catch a break?
Speaker 3 (21:09):
The other thing I have the other question I have
when it comes to the Madden cover, And I think
this is the kind of a general question when it
comes to posters, is Jerry and Jones? Who is the
guy who is being leaped over backwards on the Jaguars,
which is the picture being used on the cover of Madden.
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Does he get any sort of residuals for also being
on the cover of Madden, Like, does he get any
sort of is there any sort of paid lead? Does
this guy get any sort of cash for this?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
No, he doesn't.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
And note this doesn't get any cash either. EA Sports
Plays it pays the NFL p A for licensing agreement.
So it's all name, image, image and likeness. Has to
basically go do these photo shoots on his own, doesn't
get any payment for it.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Okay, so what about the guys in posters that are
getting dunked on? That's not the actual guy doing the dunking,
but the guy getting dunked on.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Does he get any sort of Does he get anything
other than just.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
The embarrassment of getting getting posterized and being on some
kid's bedroom wall. Growing up, it feels like if I'm
going to be involved in this, it's like a you know,
a guy that loses a fight. He still gets paid.
It's not like he's you know, you lose and you
lose everything. He still gets some sort of a paycheck.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
From what I'm seeing.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
No, the people who are quote unquote posterized do not
get it paid.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yeah, that sucks.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I'm certain say Quon gets paid for the appearances that
he makes, though, like he probably got a grip to
go down into Philly and do what he did.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
He didn't do that. That's not for free.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
That's like the promotional deals that are created out of
him getting on the cover, that's not that's not in
the collective bargaining agreement.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
They got to pay him for that. You get that,
that promo dip, That promo dip surely hit.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
Can you guys guess the one player who's turned down
being a Madden cover Deshaun Watson? Dang, Okay, I don't
think he turned it down.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Okay, fine, I'm fine.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Aaron Hernandez Sorry, it's actually la Danian Tomlinson turned it down.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
You know.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
There was a yeah, well there was. There was a curse,
but he said it wasn't because of that. He said
they didn't value him and they weren't going to be
paying him, so he said it wasn't worth his.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Time to go to those those photo shoots and what really?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know how you pass up
a man that that's like, that's a cool honor to.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
The value him and they weren't going to be paying
him to go do all that stuff. I can't I
cannot believe that they would not be paying them for
their time. That makes app that makes that makes absolutely
zero sense.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Who got the cover if it wasn't La Danian Tomlinson, Hmmm,
I'm trying to think what year that would be.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
He said it was seven, but he wasn't sure. It
might have been Shawn Alexander. That might have been the
Shawn Alexander here and oh seven, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, that seems late for Shaun Alexander, doesn't it.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Well that that was yeah, and then the year after
that was Vince Young O eight.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
And you know what Vince Young did with whatever money
he made there. He took it all to cheesecakes, Yeah,
and Applebee's. So the other aspect of Sakuon Barkley's big
week is his appearance that he made on The Green
Light with Chris Long, in which he talked about, you know,
maybe while they're celebrating me at this at the Philly
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Cheese Steak Spots and I'm on the cover of the
video game and I'm a Super Bowl champion and I
got this new contract, maybe I won't be around here
all that long.
Speaker 8 (24:53):
One of my favorite players of all time is probably
my favor play all time is Barry Sanders, So probably
similar to that. Maybe one day, like he'll be out
of nowhere, I'll probably balling and just be like, yeah,
call it quits, all.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Right, you know, Saquan is that the move he just
kind of does. He send the picture like Marshawn Lynch
did where he throws the sneakers up on the telephone
wires and just says, I'm out.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
And that's around. I mean, Barry Sanders is a very
very differently wired dude. Like he is.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
He is so like he's just gotten comfortable with getting attention,
like and it still kind of pains him to get attention.
I think Saquon enjoys the attention. But at the same time,
he is one of them. Like when I say, and
I'm not saying it's just because he went to Penn State,
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I'm saying because I've been around him since he was
a kid, like like early days, since his freshman year
of college. He's just always been a good dude. Like
you know, how you walk away from somebody, he'd be like,
that's just a good person, Like that is just a
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really really really good person. Yeah, in general. Yeah, I'll
tell you, I'll be fanboying out sometimes. Like so, I
was on a visit with with Man Man and at
Penn State. He was going on his official We were
on his official and Saquan was there. He was there
to talk to talk to the guys, and he gave
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the whole entire team his signature sneaker the year before,
and I was like, dang, I saw the sneakers in
like a presentation dip you know, around the facility. I said,
y'all got any of them left? So just so happens coincidentally,
I get my sneakers, like, I get some Saquon Barkley
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sneakers right and then he's there. So I was like, man,
you got to sign these for me? And that's last year.
So I got a pair of Saquon Barkley signed sneakers
the year before. He goes and has basically an MVP
season in the National Football League. But a lot of
guys would like one. They'd be like, you know, like
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I don't want to sign you know, I don't want
to sign autographs.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
A lot of guys would do that.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
A lot of guys would not be as humble when
they meet older guys you know when they're around. It's
just like it just all depends on, you know, just
the personality makeup of the person. But he's always engaging.
I've always said one of the best skills and best
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qualities a person can possess is the ability to make
somebody that you don't even know feel like they've known
you your entire life. And that's how Saquon is. And
to anyone who's ever met him, you feel like you're
important to him. And I really I appreciate that more
about Saquon Barkley than I do anything he's ever done
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on the football field, because there's always going to be
guys that can do phenomenal things on the football field.
So to answer your question, he's such a good dude,
and he has positioned himself so well, and there are
so many people that think so highly of him that
if he ever decided to just walk away from the game,
it's not like he's just walking away to not have
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any other opportunities. There will be a plethora of things
for him to be able to do and people that
will want to be associated with him and attach their
brands to Saquon. If he were to decide to walk away.
So if he did it, it's possible he could. But
I'll say this, while this team is constructed the way
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that they are, if all things given, if they don't
change anything about what they got going on, there would
be no reason for him retire early because go ahead,
just keep enjoying it.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Because the Barry Sanders decision to retire was because the
organization was a mess, and he was like.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Man, they couldn't win it, and they were close.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
He was getting him closed. They were getting closed. They
just couldn't get over to home.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
And and so if you're say Kwon Barkley, you're looking
at this going, man, I could just keep stacking up,
you know, fifteen hundred yard seasons for as long as
my body can do it, or you know, a thousand
yard season, just keep you know, putting the stats together.
To your point on him being which is why you
go back to the decision by the Giants not to
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retain him even though he wanted to be there.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
He said it.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
He fits the bill of everything you would want to build.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Around with your organization.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
You drafted him, he had success, He's a good dude,
he represents the organization well, and you let him walk
it to your our.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Trival and the I'm going to have trouble sleeping.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
If one of our most beloved and well liked players
goes to Philly. So and he did, it's crazy. And
he won a super Bowl. Yeah, and he should have
been the MVP. And if you compare stats to him
and his historic run let this past season to Eric
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Dickerson's historic run when he broke the record, it's I
think Saquon had a better season.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Man.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
He didn't have more he didn't have more rushing yards,
but I think if you look at the comparisons of
what their numbers were down the lote, like I think
I think Eric Dickerson had like eleven or thirteen fumbles
that year, like Saquon had like two or three, you
know what I mean. Like that was the most glaring
of the stats. And I you know, I love ed
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to death, so I ain't I ain't gonna say too
much more on that. But Saquon Barkley may have solidified
a Hall of Fame campaign in one season.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Yeah, in one season.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
It's and unfortunately it's one of those moves. Like Seth Greenberg,
who's the college basketball analyst for ESPN, he coached at
Virginia Tech. What he's going to be known for in
his coaching career is the fact that he didn't offer
Steph Curry a scholarship even though Steph Curry's dad went
to Virginia Tech. Joe Shane, the GM of the Giants,
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is going to be known for the fact that he
lets say Kwan Barkley walk. And what made it worse
is that, as you pointed out Jones and paid Daniel Jones,
and on top of that, it was featured on Tech
like we got to see it.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
All on time.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
We got to see it.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Man.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
That's that's the worst part.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
And at least the owner gets to say, dang, like
I really said.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
It, like I really like.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
How do you move forward with positive trust and a
person making this for you at the GM position when
you knew in.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Your gut this is the wrong decision. Just pay the
man and let's move on.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Sad thing about it is this is how this plays out, Jonas,
and it plays out way too often. More often than not,
the owner does break down and pay that player. But
he was getting tore out the frame because they didn't
have the type of players that they have in Philadelphia.
So you would have saw Saquon continue to work his
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ass off. The other teams beat the hell out of
him because that's really all they had and their quarterback
wasn't doing as for them to pull pull the defenses
off of Saquon, he would have probably kept getting injured.
And you know what he would have did Jonas retired early.
It would have taken it like Arry sad.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yes, and it would have taken him two years to
accomplish what he did in Philly in one year. From
a yard he would end point. From a production standpoint, yeah,
you would have had the comps.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Like, it's crazy how that exposes the comp right, Like
in terms of when a really really gifted player goes
to a wasteland of an organization and people are like.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Oh, he's a bus. You're a bus. You're a bus.
He's a bus, you're a bus. You're just mad that
you didn't have a great career. Lah lah lah lah
lah lah.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Like the point is is that more often than not,
if you're as gifted and as talented as Saquon Barkley is,
you're going to a crappy organization.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
You don't get to choose.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
So if he were if this was like college and
you get recruited and it's like, yeah, I'm gonna take
visits here, here, here, and here, I'm gonna go play
for this team. I'm gonna go play for that team.
Imagine if Saquon Barkley was able to choose what team
he was going play for and he goes to the
Kansas City Chiefs or he goes to the Baltimore Ravens. Like,
that's not how it works. So you're up, You're You're
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at the expense of whatever organization is going to take you.
Cam Ward this year, like you got to go to
a seller dweller team and on a bad team, you
got to be the one that makes it better. I
just I'm happy that for once, justice was served in
the right way, where a guy gets out of a
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crappy situation and goes into an ideal situation and it
actually played out the way that it was supposed to
play out. I'm loving the fact that Sakwon Barkley represents
the comp of what so many of us have had
to deal with.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
And have to live with in our lives.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
That he was able to show that it does indeed
make a difference where you go and who you're playing for.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
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Speaker 5 (35:52):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
It's time for good, bad and ugly all right, lead
to lap Who's got what will?
Speaker 6 (36:07):
As we do each and every week, we start with
the good and this week, LeVar, you are delivering the goods.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, Well, I'll say the goods is that
we're well in a slow, seemingly time of the sports year.
We have the NBA Finals coming up, and that should
be pretty fun to go watch. It starts up what
tomorrow night, and we should be able to see if
this is going to be what should be perceived as
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a really really competitive series of the Pacers and the
Oklahoma Thunder. So I'm pretty excited about that, even though
I'm not sure how excited most fans will be. Sports
fans will be, but NBA Finals always seem to be
like a cool time to like go to the local
bar or whatever it may be and watch the games
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at like a sports pub or a dive bar. For
some strange reason, it's it's pretty good congregating, so I
might do that. I might get in a mix, especially
this weekend. So it's good.
Speaker 6 (37:09):
Well, can have good without the bad, and for bad,
I'll deliver this week. I'll echo John McEnroe who says,
you know, there's a lack of American success in tennis
right now. The Americans just ran out at least the America.
The men did at Roland Garros this week, Carlos Alcarez
took out Tommy Paul. Yesterday Lorenzo Mussetti out of Italy
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took out Francis Tifo. Now we got Coco Golf, at
least we got that, but we got no Americans doing
anything in tennis. We've lost in a doll We've lost Federer,
We're down to Djokovic, which we're all tired of, and
Carlos Alcarez. We need some American blood. Serena's gone. We're
basically down to Cocoa Golf. That's what's bad for me
this week. How about hold on a second, Yeah, but
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what who who gives a rip?
Speaker 4 (37:53):
I do?
Speaker 2 (37:54):
What do you mean like we don't we don't have
to have everything?
Speaker 6 (37:58):
Well, we would, we would give a rip if there
were Americans in it.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
We do. That's the problem. We have to have everything.
We have to have some of everything, something of everything.
We gotta disagree with you, child us. I've gotta be greedy.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
All right, It's just okay, I.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Gotta have some skin in the game.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Well, okay, you want to you want to make better,
you want it, you want to improve matters. Stop promoting
pickleball over tennis. Good point, do That is a great point.
All I hear about is pickleball.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Because it's less athletics.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Aundred percent, that's correct, one percent. Why do you play
Madden because I can't play real football?
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Right, fair enough, very true? From bad to worse?
Speaker 6 (38:40):
What was ugly this week?
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Jonas?
Speaker 3 (38:42):
In general, have you noticed that some of the driving,
some of the speeding on the roads is getting worse
and worse and worse. People are out there taking too
many chances. I brought this up the other day. I
saw a guy walking on the freeway at two point
thirty in the morning with a headlamp on, and he
was not working for a trans.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Are doing any repair work?
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Ready to go? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Stop taking chances and if you are ready to go,
do it. Somewhere else so we don't have to deal
with the guilt for the rest of our lives.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Losers so selfish