June 6, 2025 • 39 mins
Looks like the Colts will roll with Daniel Jones after Anthony Richardson’s aggravated shoulder. Russell Wilson could make the Giants sneaky good. Plus, Warren Moon conspiracy theories and the Wheel of Belmont Stakes!
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and we mentioned the feel good news for the Indiana Pacers.
If you're an Indiana sports fan, you gotta feel good
about your Pacers. Gotta feel great about your Indiana Pacers.
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And then the cultural around and they decide, you know what,
We're going to draft Anthony Richardson to be our future
franchise quarterback. He's going to be the guy, and we're
gonna give you plenty of opportunities.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
And this was a pivotal year.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
It was a big year for Anthony Richardson and we're
already off to a rough start. Take it away, Colt's
head coach Shane Steichen.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Anthony sustained an injury and his throwing shoulder felt some
pain in it. Doctors, trainers checked it out. He's got
some aggravation and his ac joint. So we're gonna set
him out this week. Obviously, he'll sit out for mini camp.
We'll see when he comes back. Not gonna put a
timetable for training camp on it, but when he does
come back, we'll ease him into throwing and then we'll
go from there. The good thing is he's not gonna
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need a procedure right now, all right.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
So, same shoulder that he had ac joint surgery on
in twenty twenty three, and now he's got something that's
fopped up yet again and they're going to hopefully have
him return at some point. No surgery yet, but the
idea is at some point during training camp he's going
to be there. But for right now, he's out indefinitely,
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which does open up the door for Daniel Jones to
take the reins and just keep this thing on trucking.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I mean, first of all, the door was already open
even if Anthony Richardson's ac joint was perfectly fine and intact.
I mean, I don't think anyone would dispute that piece
of information. Now the question becomes, does this become a
one horse situation with Daniel Jones and with the idea
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of moving forward, what that looks like for this team
and for Daniel Jones.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
That's what I would say.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
There's there, I mean, there's just a lot of question
marks surrounding the number two team from the AFC South.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You're in a great.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Position as a team to be able to possibly compete
with Houston for you know, for that that that first
spot and that automatic you know, get into the playoffs
deal by winning your your your division. But when you
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look at this, this Colt's team, how do you find
yourself feeling It's like you look at their their depth chart,
you look at their their team, and you would believe
that with the talent that they have, that they really
could be a real contender. I mean, at one point,
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not too long ago, in the distant past, this was
a team you looked at and said, they have the
makings of a Super Bowl a Super Bowl contending team,
and they're I mean, they have some players on defense,
they have some players on offense. I mean, Jonathan Taylor
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at one point was contending and competing to be considered one.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Of the top backs in this league.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Now he's dealt with a couple different setbacks, but for
the most part, Jonathan Taylor when he's on, that's a
that's a pretty big piece of anybody's team puzzle. When
you have a guy that can run the ball the
way that he does, takes pressure off of guys like
Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones. And we all know that
Daniel Jones had Sakwon Barkley to take that pressure off
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of him. In New York, Michael Pittman Juior is a
guy at the receiver's position that while he doesn't get
spoken on the level of like the Jamar Chases and
the Justin Jeffersons, you know, and that that type of
that type of rating and rain thinking of upper Echellan's elite,
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you know, receivers, He's still a very very gifted football player.
And keep in mind in the draft, they got our
guy out of Penn State, which I don't understand why
people maybe try to downgrade him and not talk as
highly about Tyler Warren because he wasn't the first tight
end taking in the draft.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
But he is.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
If if you're asking me who was the steel of
the draft, it was the Indianapolis Colts getting Tyler Warren one,
that's the steal SOS.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
But TEACHERLD, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Well you want that's the most valued pick for certain Again,
that's a whole other conversation because because it could take
you off into a whole nother conversation. If you get
a guy in the fifth round and you drafted in
the third round the same position, and you brought in
two free agents and that fifth round there ends up
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being your starter. That says a lot about that team
and a lot about the other teams in the league.
I'm just saying, but that's a whole other conversation. I
think that when you look at the Indianapolis Colts, Anthony
Richardson is in a position to solidify a job and
have that job with this personnel if he does what
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he needs to do, but it's also an opportunity for
Daniel Jones to try to resurrect or salvage a career
that maybe maybe he was unfairly judged. Maybe he becomes
the villain to Sakwon Barkley being the hero in this storyline.
I don't know, but I feel like the Colts are
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in a really really good position in terms of being
able to have a good season in that season being
a win for their organization and for their team. And
yet again you're having conversations of not being clear and
not being sure on what Anthony Richardson is going to
bring to the table, and as a high draft pick,
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what is he going to represent and what is he
going to mean to this team and this franchise moving forward.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Anthony Richardson's not getting this job back, and for all
intents and purposes, his career in Indianapolis is probably over.
He missed he only started four games his rookie year
because of injuries. He started eleven games last year, missed
a bunch because of either injuries or he got benched
and decided to take a knee during the course of
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a game. Obviously, young mistakes. Whatever the talent's there, We've
detailed the touchdown throw we had Week one, I believe
against Houston last year, which is one of the great
throws you'll ever see in the NFL. But the problem
is the injuries and the inconsistent play have cost him.
And now you've got a situation where you've got a
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quarterback who is fighting for his career to be saved
and a coach who's fighting for his job to be saved.
Because if Indianapolis struggles this year, Shane Steichen's probably gone.
So I look at it and I go, man, if
Daniel Jones just plays serviceable football and keeps them in
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the fight, Anthony Richardson isn't getting the job back.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
It's just not happening.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
If Daniel Jones, barring injury or poor play, I don't see.
I don't see how this turns out well for Anthony Richardson.
And I just think this was, as you mentioned, the
door was opened when they made the decision to sign
Daniel Jones. There's a reason why Daniel Jones wanted to
go there, why he signed with Indianapolis, because I think
he saw this as a real possibility, a real opportunity
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to be the starter there. And now if you're Indianapolis.
If I was a Colts fan, I would feel better
about my team going into this year with Daniel Jones.
With Daniel Jones than I would Anthony Richardson, just from
the standpoint of at least I know what I'm going
to get. At least I know what I'm going to get.
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It may not be the greatest quarterback back play at times,
but it's not like Daniel Jones hasn't played good football
for an extended period of time. He's got an offensive
minded coach there in Shane steik And who's done it
with quarterbacks like he did in Philly with Anthony Richardson.
I think it was too much of a wild card,
and I do think in agreement with you, that Indianapolis
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is in a better spot today than they were yesterday.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
We just had to wait and see how it plays
out again. I think the.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
AFC South is just a peculiar, curious division.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Now can I ask that AFC deal.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Let me ask you a question, though, all right, because
last year when we were making our season picks, you
were so disenchanted with the AFC South you didn't even
bother picking the order. I don't even know if you
actually finished picking who you thought was going to win
the division because you were just so bored with it,
which I think is a natural reaction to the AFC South,
Like if we're being honest, So.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Like what you know what I mean, You're gonna You're
gonna come to the same conclusion again this year. The
Jaguars are going to be a disappointment. It's like, Pete,
It's going to be a disappointment.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
It's like somebody asks you, like, Hey, which is your
favorite parking lot?
Speaker 5 (10:15):
It's like, I don't know who cares, Like, what do
you mean I'm gonna have.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
To walk from all of them?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, I don't if they're in a parking space in
like the front lot, which is like the Texans.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
If it's not a lot space in the Texans.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Parking lot, then I don't want I don't want to
go in park.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I gotta walk from wherever I something.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I'm going, Hey, rank your favorite seven elevens? What do
you mean they're all the same? Like they're all the same.
They're in a CD part of town. You go there,
you just hope your car is still intact when you
get out to that, and like this is it is
what it's like they're all You look at all these teams,
they're kind of all the same, Like there's not really
a like there's a reason why, you know, they probably
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invented the color rush game because it was like, hey man,
how could we get people to actually want to watch
Jacksonville Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
I know, let's do something goofy with their.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Jerseys and hope people are adjusting their televisions and we
can draw rating because they've got.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
It on the TV long enough.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Like I just so.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Now you've got Indianapolis who's in this spot that we
don't know what the hell.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Houston's gonna look like.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
They got a bunch of changes with their you know,
their offensive coaching staff that they had to make.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
You got CJ.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Stroud who's not throwing because of quote general soreness. Jacksonville
who the hell knows, and Tennessee's got a rookie quarterback
Shane Steikeen's looking at this like, hey man, I gotta
save my job. We've got a quarterback who's banged up
again and took a knee last year and we can't
depend on him. I'll just ride with Daniel Jones and
see if we can get this team out of the
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playoffs and I can and I can save my gig
here in Indianapolis. That's what it feels like to me.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I mean, if you believe that Liam Cohen is going
to come in and have.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
People on the duvo.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And totally change what the cadence has been there in Jacksonville,
then be excited. You know, it's just as open for
Cohen and company to come in and as certain apply
themselves into a situation where they could be atop the
AFC South. Same thing could happen for for the you know,
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I ain't gonna say Tennessee, but definitely for the Colts.
I just feel like with Houston, I don't know what
I'm going to get, but I do know they're going
to win. This is what I do know. The Houston
Texans are going to win because they had CJ. Stroud
at quarterback. Now, how impressive.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Will they be?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Will they be able to stay at top of the
AFC South? If I'm a betting man, I'm going to
say yes. But did any of those other teams do
anything to really shut down the gap between them and
the Texans? I would say definitively no, you haven't shut
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down the gap and listen. I think that that Travis
Hunter will be an amazing addition to the Jacksonville Jaguars,
but I do not look at them and until Trevor
Lawrence proves that he's more than what he's been, I
don't really. I don't look at Jacksonville as favorably as
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I did when the excitement was still there for Trevor
Lawrence and what he could bring to the table as
a franchise generational quarterback. He's just been pretty pretty on
Parr like, and I would say maybe even one over Parr,
you know.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
But and that's that's given him the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
That's given them a little bit. That's yeah. So to me,
I don't know what Tennessee's going to do. I still
think like Tennessee's going to be a cellar dweller, even
though I have to watch. I watched the McNair Untold,
Untold story yesterday, and he really did in his you know,
inaugural year, he really did an excellent job with with Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
You watched you watch that McNair doc.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Okay, what was your immediate just the whole It's probably
more interesting than the AFC South conversation for me. Okay,
all right, what was your immediate takeaway from watching the
Steve McNair documentary, because I'll tell you what mine was.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
It didn't.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
It didn't tell me anything new there was I took.
I got nothing from it. Okay, Yeah, we get it.
Very very weird, a very weird situation. And it seems
like more went on. Any answers, Nope, just speculations.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Awesome, And that's I walked away from it still wondering, like, Okay,
it seemed like they came to the real conclusion that
the girlfriend did it, and maybe just maybe that's what
it was. But I still feel like I walked away
from it like there was foul play.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah, they could.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
It could have been the guy that they they found
that that sold the gun, that bought the gun. And
if you guys watched the documentary, you'll know what I'm
talking about. It could have been him that did it,
ran up on him, maybe stole something whatever. I don't
know because they didn't make it a point like could
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have been a robbery that took place. Was there anything missing?
I don't think that they even went through any of that,
like nothing was missing when when they just came to
the conclusion that she did both of them. She hit
him and then she hit herself.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
You know what I mean, Like the way they details it, well,
she wanted to end up in his lap, and it's like,
well if you if you make the decision to call
it a day.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
I don't think you really get to determine where you land.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's really don't.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Like it's like, you know, throwing up a hail Mary
and getting picked off.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I mean, like, damn, she was on the floor, right,
she ended up on the floor. Yeah, just you know,
all I'll say is Jonas is the first thing tristaid
when she was watching, and she was.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Like, that's the wife.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
It was the wife. The wife wouldn't got him. And
I never thought of it that way. I never even
looked at it that way, like dang, Like you know,
you can draw different conclusions from it, you know, like
they had the boyfriend as one of the main people
that they interviewed that try to piece the story together.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Thanks for that thought. Now I got to clear all
my messages, Jesus.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I mean, it's just there. I think there's different angles
in which you could look at. They tried to blame
the best friend of falling out. It could have been him.
But there's the idea that they What I feel is
interesting about that Doc Jonas is that they positioned you
to try to figure out who committed the crime. It
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wasn't this lady did it, and here's how she did it,
Here's why she did it. Here's definitive information that proves
that this was who did it. I didn't come away
from it feeling that way. I came away from that
doc having more questions than you know, to ask, needing answered,
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than than questions answered from watching it.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
And so it was if they're like, all right, the end,
now you figure it out.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
No, that's not that's not our job, our Joe, you
like it's been all these years later. The guy who's
done a great job, by the way, on the Steve McNair, uh, murder, suice,
whatever you want to call it, armand Katayan, Yeah, has
done a great job. And I think he's been pretty
consistent if I remember correctly, that he doesn't buy the story,
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like he doesn't buy just every detail of the story
that's been laid out in the way and the way
it all happened. It just it's it's a sad story.
No doubt, but there's just something about it that has
never landed right with me.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
It just seems too too clean to direct it and
put it on her.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
And by the way, how about the fact that we're
coming up on the sixteen year anniversary.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
That's crazy. It's such a that one rocked the football
communities to the core. I mean, there's so many people
that can remember. I can remember exactly where I was,
the vehicle I was driving, the city I was in,
what I was doing I was driving when that information hit.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
It's one of the most airy.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Like empty, sad feelings, like numb feelings that you could
possibly have.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
And I didn't even know Steve that well. We were
at the Pro Bowls.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
The only time that I ever really spent with him
and had a conversation was very brief, and it was
at the Pro Bowl. We were on the elevator together
and it was the year he was a co MVP
with Peyton Manning and we we were heading down to
the lobby and had a conversation in the elevator.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Real real cordial dude, real good dude.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Like you know, he was like, yeah, I'm just I'm
gladuating in our division. Da da dad this and now
he was gassing me, and I liked it when the
dude gas you up at that point in your career.
So I don't know, man, I just I did come
away from that that untold with more questions versus like,
how do you how do you come to the rest
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on the conclusion that it was a murder and a
suicide deal? How do you come away with it as
that's your conclusion. I felt like there was just a
lot a lot of questions that were remaining at the
end of that, and we probably won't get another documentary
that clears it up.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
That's the interesting thing about it.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
They do a lot of stuff with with Brett Fahr,
but in reality, this is one of the ones where
you be like then Aaron Hernandez, but this one had
as more storyline plot twist if they dig a little deeper,
if you ask me, than even Aaron Hernandez's situation.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
And that'll wrap up our preview of the girlfriend afc here.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
On the show. He could have been one of the
other girlfriends.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
There was clearly other people involved that we didn't even
really get an opportunity to even get them developed.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
In the storyline.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
You know what, I mean, and there's somebody sitting back
somewhere like I really got away with this.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I really did this, and I'm still free. I'm really
going to do it.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
So there you go, and those are our picks to
win the AFC South. It is two Pros and a
Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington,
Jonas NOx with you here. Coming up next though, we
are going to hear from somebody in the NFL and
boil boy. If anybody knows how to gas anybody else
up this guy does, that's yours right here on FSR.
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Speaker 5 (21:43):
It's about time.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
So speaking of pros, there's somebody that's a real professional
when it comes to gassing up the people around him.
And that's somebody is brand new New York Giants quarterback
Russell Wilson, who talked about not only being a mentor
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to the other quarterbacks in the room, but also to
everybody in every room.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
I've always viewed it as, you know, you're always trying
to be the best version of you, and then then
you're always giving back to everybody else. I think that,
you know, it's not just about one team. It's about
all the teammates. It's about everybody in the building. It's
about you know, from all the way to the quarterback
room to the receivers, so the running backs, to the
tight ends, the old line, and the relationship there, all
the way to the defensive line, to the to the
corners and to the all the way to the training room.
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You know, just to me, it's it's it's all all inclusive,
you know, and that's always the approach.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
I'm with him, and I think it's una right.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yeah, but he definitely needs to worry about himself. He
doesn't need to be that person trying to spread himself
that thin try to influence all those people around that
entire building. I just shouldn't be his focus right now.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
You see this, This is I mean, this is the
part that's difficult. Is a guy like Russell Wilson who's
out there trying to do his part. He goes above
and beyond. He's like one of those employees who always goes.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Above and beyond.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
And he's even gone so far out of the kindness
of his heart because he's a good person.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
To give back the office space that he required on
his contract, I mean that which went to a certain
certain franchise.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
That which is a sign of unselfishness. But also the
fact that he was out there trying to help the
defensive coaching staff get the defense lined up in Denver.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Run Run Run. Yeah, Like he'll never live that one down.
That's why when he.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Why should he it's a good deed. He should be
celebrated for it.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
He's got to be a very very oblivious person to
what perception of reality is and perception of fantasy is.
You know, it comes across as the people that are
in front of Russell Wilson give him all of the
energy and all of the support that he needs to
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continue to say it, do the things that he does
in his interviews with his sound bites, versus somebody that
he knows, loves and respects telling him to like, Bro,
you might you might want to just be more seen
rather than heard, Like let what you do be the
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representation of what you are as a leader to this
team and even as the community. Once you've been outed
and people like have an idea or are given some
type of material where you can draw conclusions that aren't
it doesn't need for you to say anything to the media.
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You got to be very careful in how you're trying to,
you know, maneuver and build your brand, especially in a
new market, and especially in a market where the fans
are very intense about how they consume their content about
their teams and how they support the players or not
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support the players. They'll tell you real quick, go back
to Pittsburgh, Russ, we don't want you, or whatever it
may be. It's like, no, I know, I know by experience.
Take your ass back in DC LeVar anyway. Uh, it's
just one of those things where the book is already
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out on Russell Wilson. And I bet you if.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
You asked anyone.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Who is aware of who Russell Wilson is at this
point that the first thing that they'll say is what Jonas.
The first thing that comes to mind when you hear
Russell Wilson's name.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Is what fink dang? I was gonna say, Sierra.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
That's the first thing that you That's where you hear
Russell Wilson that is real. Now, that gives him credibility,
but that gives them credibility in terms of his taste
and who he wants to hang out with and be around.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Off the field.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
He's very very interesting with his god fearing spirituality and
his faith and all those different things. Because I mean,
his his his wife wasn't singing songs about you know,
about Jesus. She was singing about her goodies. But I mean,
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you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I think still they didn't call. I don't think you
were going to have any problem with it. You know,
you wouldn't have any problem with it.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
You know, he didn't come with shiny suits and and
different different storylines that kind of went against You.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Know, you go to a kid's birthday party, and you
know they don't want the other kids who it's birthday
it's not to feel bad, so they hand them a
little bag of goodies. Like there's nothing wrong with that.
I mean, I don't mean. You know, she's just out
there trying to be.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Talking about a diddy party.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah, it applies to the goodies she was talking about
in that that song. But it's just there's too many,
there's too many conflicting contradictions who Russell Wilson is by
listening to him and seeing some of the things that
he does, and I just feel like being in New York,
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for one, this is his last chance. For two, how
long does he get? How long does he get in
that position? And three how do you not understand that
in the situation you're in right now, way less is
way more in this scenario, because if your personality is
misunderstood or taking the wrong way, or something you said
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lens towards a conclusion of what fans are going to
think of the team and where it may go. And
then you're not a part of that. You're gonna get spanked.
You're gonna get spanked. Less is more.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
The less you say, the less the posts.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
You know and the times can can you know put
on the front of the tablet papers and this, that
and the other and on the back page of it.
The less you have for them to use you as
an example, and the better chance you have of acclimating
and integrating into being a positive contributor to the team.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
But he just led to to me.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
He lets his mouth walk him into situations that puts
unnecessary pressure on himself.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Yeah, I mean, listen, you know you mentioned Sierra. Check
your text.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
But so.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
The problem I have with and look, I try and
judge anybody I meet when happened. I try and judge
anybody I meet with how I meet them, Because you
could hear something about somebody from another person and then
your interaction with him is completely different. So I never
base my opinion on somebody based off somebody else's interactions.
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I like to, you know, get my own information, do
my own analysis, and then we can judge.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
My problem that do you think that they would wear
some of the outfits they wear when they go out
to church.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
You think they wear those the church?
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Oh God, no, yeah, no, I mean I wish go
to finish your time.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I wish.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I just thought it was very important to interrupt your
thought to ask what they wear some of these outfits
that they wear on the red carpet or when they
go out to these events.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
You know, would you wear that the church? You know?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I think of the sisters and the mothers, I think,
and the other Christian people are up in there, you know,
see the outfit that you're rocking.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
I think if they did, there'd be more people at church,
to be honest with you, hmm.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
But that's that's my thought.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
But I just problem say. God doesn't judge, No, he doesn't,
and he should come.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Come the way you are is kind of what they say,
you know, and they'll save you from there.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Don't don't worry. We'll judge for you. That's that's fine.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
But I look at I look at Russ, and I
go my problem with the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
And it'd be one thing if you.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Heard it from one person, like hey, you know he
didn't get along or see i'd I with people in Seattle.
It's like, oh, okay, well listen, just a bad fit.
But then Denver happened, that was a disaster. Then he
gets to Pittsburgh that also turned into a disaster. And
it wasn't like Aaron Rodgers had a better year than
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Russell Wilson. You can actually put their years together and
be like, well, they're kind of similar, They're kind of
on par with each other, and Russ was more familiar
with the system and wanted to be there. The fact
that so many teams consecutively and so many people have
wanted nothing to do with him leads me to believe
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that there's a common denominator there, that there's something going
on there. And so when you say what's the word
you come up with first, and I say fake, it's like, man,
I don't know from personal experience. I could never speak
about the guy personally, but there seems like there's a
lot of people around the NFL that are all telling
you the same thing about how they feel about the game.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
It was it was a strong conclusion. It wasn't worth
condemning or saying you were wrong. It just wasn't as
strong as Sierra. That's all I'm gonna say. You're right,
You're one hundred percent correct, And what your assessment was
a first word that comes to mind. But Sierra, I
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think outweighs it. Well, now they.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Get to a mark.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I mean, now they get to a market where they
can they I can recall when Tom Brady made the
decision to go to Tampa.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
They were in Tampa, and you.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Remember that report that came out with Russ and Sierra
sitting with Roger Goodell at the at the Super Bowl
and they were like, Yeah, Russell Wilson's looking for the
same situation. Go to a great market, bring in the
players he wants to bring in, do it how he
wants to do it, and then everything is going to
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work out the way that is supposed to work out
for Russ and Sierra. Sierra gets to build her brand
in a major market and then it works out that way.
I mean, I can recall that, and every time I
hear of a decision being made, it's the first thing
I think about. Was Pittsburgh the right market for Russell Wilson? No,
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it wasn't. If Russell Wilson would have balled out and
Pittsburgh would have balled out and did really well, then yes,
it becomes a market that would have been amazing for
Russell Wilson, and even Sierra amazing because it's a football town.
It just isn't a super large market.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
But New York.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
If he's able to go in there and bring New
York offense back to life, then this New York team,
with that defense that they got with Tibbs and who's
that Burns and now the addition of young Sticks wearing
the Carlos Emmins fifty one, if that pass rush and
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that defense can be what it was last year and
better moving forward, this New York Giants team could sneak
up on a lot of people. And if you're one
of those teams that sneak up on people and Russ
is the quarterback that's doing it, I think that that
is tremendous for Russ. Now what's even more tremendous for
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the Giants is if it ends up being Dark. If
I'm just being honest, if Dark steps in and starts
throwing darts and starts starts bringing this this offense to life.
You thought it was crazy when when Danny DeVito's nephew
got up in there and started doing what he was doing.
Wait till you see what happens if Jackson Dark ends
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up being the guy that leads this team, you know,
to a more successful season. But nonetheless, there's multiple storylines.
Even if it's Jameis Winston, there's multiple storylines that would
lend to whoever is that has the success. Jonas, They're
going to be the one that reaps the spoils of
the victor, and right now Russell Wilson is in pole
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position to be that guy.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Yep, it's all about that poll.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
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Radio videos on YouTube. And now it's time for.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
Who needs an expert pick on these other sporting events
when our experts can spin a wheel.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
So now it's time for Belmont Steak Swinner.
Speaker 9 (35:43):
The Belmont Steaks final leg of the Triple Crown coming up.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Tomorrow on Fox. That's right, coming up tomorrow on Fox.
So here we go. We've got an actual wheel in
studio here with your names. It's a huge ass wheel,
and so lead the lap. What would you like to
read the names of the horses on the wheel and
then we'll start spinning away here.
Speaker 10 (36:10):
Sure I can do that for you, because there's only
eight horses in the race tomorrow, it's gonna be Hill
Road in post number one, sovereignty. The number two, of
course he won the Kentucky derby Rodriguez and number three
Bob Baffort to us say that's right, Uncaged one of
two horses trained by Todd Kletcher in post number four.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
He's thirty to one odds.
Speaker 10 (36:33):
Crudo right next to him in post number five, also
by Todd Pletcher fifteen to one odds.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Jockey John Velasquez.
Speaker 10 (36:40):
We got Baeza in post number six four to one
odds by John John cheriefs.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Doesn't matter about that?
Speaker 10 (36:47):
How about journalism at number seven creaking mistakes? Winner there
journalism And finally number eight Heart of Honor.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
All right, thirty to one odds. All right, So who
wants to spin that wheel?
Speaker 2 (36:59):
What is it matter? We're spinning a wheel like?
Speaker 7 (37:01):
What?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Come on?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Just do that for? But if you're spinning a wheel
like I'd.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Rather just get to pick But yeah, well, all right,
who do you want?
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Who do you?
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Who do you want for? Or who are you wishing for?
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Once you reach your long ass arm out, what't you
read that long arm out?
Speaker 5 (37:17):
And spin that wheel?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
That baby? Spin the wheel?
Speaker 5 (37:20):
All right, let's go all.
Speaker 11 (37:21):
Right there you gos are that's a strong sap yeah,
come on, man.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
By by four to one.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Who's right now?
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Flavian Pratt.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Flavian Pratt, Lobby and Pratt no relation to Chris.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Oh, Chris, Chris France. He's from France. He rides in
the Belmont Stakes. It's his fourth time. Best finish is
second and twenty one with hot Rod.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Charlie. Uh, he's right in bays.
Speaker 11 (38:02):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
All, I feel all right about this.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, he's not won it, but I mean all right,
I'm okay with with with this.
Speaker 7 (38:14):
Now.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Mark is in for Lorena because Loraina doesn't work four
weeks anymore. So Mark, go ahead and uh and spin
that wheel if you will.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
Let's see you, Marks, that number is growing. Damn journalism, journalism.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
All that's appropriate.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
Yep, eight to five odds for journalism. All right, leaves Lap,
go ahead and spin that wheel please and.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Spin ere Rod regas right.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Bob Bafford stores all right, I'll think so that'll count
for right after the race if he wins, and then
two weeks later he'll piss hot knowing it's a Bob
Bafford horse. All right, So I'll go ahead and give
that spin of the wheel for the Belmont Steaks winner.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
Good dear, that's a real spam.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yeah, good on you.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
Get there, get there, get there, get there.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Get their sovereignty there.
Speaker 10 (39:11):
It is all right, the favorite two to one for sovereignty,
Bill Motts.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
There, so they would never win.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
So yeah, so there you go. There's your spin of
the wheel.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Because it's yours. I hope, I hope he'd
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Loses just away as we await the results of the Belmont,
which should be a fun race on Fox tomorrow.
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and we mentioned the feel good news for the Indiana Pacers.
If you're an Indiana sports fan, you gotta feel good
about your Pacers. Gotta feel great about your Indiana Pacers.
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And then the cultural around and they decide, you know what,
We're going to draft Anthony Richardson to be our future
franchise quarterback. He's going to be the guy, and we're
gonna give you plenty of opportunities.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
And this was a pivotal year.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
It was a big year for Anthony Richardson and we're
already off to a rough start. Take it away, Colt's
head coach Shane Steichen.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Anthony sustained an injury and his throwing shoulder felt some
pain in it. Doctors, trainers checked it out. He's got
some aggravation and his ac joint. So we're gonna set
him out this week. Obviously, he'll sit out for mini camp.
We'll see when he comes back. Not gonna put a
timetable for training camp on it, but when he does
come back, we'll ease him into throwing and then we'll
go from there. The good thing is he's not gonna
(01:56):
need a procedure right now, all right.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
So, same shoulder that he had ac joint surgery on
in twenty twenty three, and now he's got something that's
fopped up yet again and they're going to hopefully have
him return at some point. No surgery yet, but the
idea is at some point during training camp he's going
to be there. But for right now, he's out indefinitely,
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which does open up the door for Daniel Jones to
take the reins and just keep this thing on trucking.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I mean, first of all, the door was already open
even if Anthony Richardson's ac joint was perfectly fine and intact.
I mean, I don't think anyone would dispute that piece
of information. Now the question becomes, does this become a
one horse situation with Daniel Jones and with the idea
(02:51):
of moving forward, what that looks like for this team
and for Daniel Jones.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
That's what I would say.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
There's there, I mean, there's just a lot of question
marks surrounding the number two team from the AFC South.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
You're in a great.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Position as a team to be able to possibly compete
with Houston for you know, for that that that first
spot and that automatic you know, get into the playoffs
deal by winning your your your division. But when you
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look at this, this Colt's team, how do you find
yourself feeling It's like you look at their their depth chart,
you look at their their team, and you would believe
that with the talent that they have, that they really
could be a real contender. I mean, at one point,
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not too long ago, in the distant past, this was
a team you looked at and said, they have the
makings of a Super Bowl a Super Bowl contending team,
and they're I mean, they have some players on defense,
they have some players on offense. I mean, Jonathan Taylor
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at one point was contending and competing to be considered one.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Of the top backs in this league.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Now he's dealt with a couple different setbacks, but for
the most part, Jonathan Taylor when he's on, that's a
that's a pretty big piece of anybody's team puzzle. When
you have a guy that can run the ball the
way that he does, takes pressure off of guys like
Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones. And we all know that
Daniel Jones had Sakwon Barkley to take that pressure off
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of him. In New York, Michael Pittman Juior is a
guy at the receiver's position that while he doesn't get
spoken on the level of like the Jamar Chases and
the Justin Jeffersons, you know, and that that type of
that type of rating and rain thinking of upper Echellan's elite,
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you know, receivers, He's still a very very gifted football player.
And keep in mind in the draft, they got our
guy out of Penn State, which I don't understand why
people maybe try to downgrade him and not talk as
highly about Tyler Warren because he wasn't the first tight
end taking in the draft.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
But he is.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
If if you're asking me who was the steel of
the draft, it was the Indianapolis Colts getting Tyler Warren one,
that's the steal SOS.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
But TEACHERLD, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Well you want that's the most valued pick for certain Again,
that's a whole other conversation because because it could take
you off into a whole nother conversation. If you get
a guy in the fifth round and you drafted in
the third round the same position, and you brought in
two free agents and that fifth round there ends up
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being your starter. That says a lot about that team
and a lot about the other teams in the league.
I'm just saying, but that's a whole other conversation. I
think that when you look at the Indianapolis Colts, Anthony
Richardson is in a position to solidify a job and
have that job with this personnel if he does what
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he needs to do, but it's also an opportunity for
Daniel Jones to try to resurrect or salvage a career
that maybe maybe he was unfairly judged. Maybe he becomes
the villain to Sakwon Barkley being the hero in this storyline.
I don't know, but I feel like the Colts are
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in a really really good position in terms of being
able to have a good season in that season being
a win for their organization and for their team. And
yet again you're having conversations of not being clear and
not being sure on what Anthony Richardson is going to
bring to the table, and as a high draft pick,
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what is he going to represent and what is he
going to mean to this team and this franchise moving forward.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Anthony Richardson's not getting this job back, and for all
intents and purposes, his career in Indianapolis is probably over.
He missed he only started four games his rookie year
because of injuries. He started eleven games last year, missed
a bunch because of either injuries or he got benched
and decided to take a knee during the course of
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a game. Obviously, young mistakes. Whatever the talent's there, We've
detailed the touchdown throw we had Week one, I believe
against Houston last year, which is one of the great
throws you'll ever see in the NFL. But the problem
is the injuries and the inconsistent play have cost him.
And now you've got a situation where you've got a
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quarterback who is fighting for his career to be saved
and a coach who's fighting for his job to be saved.
Because if Indianapolis struggles this year, Shane Steichen's probably gone.
So I look at it and I go, man, if
Daniel Jones just plays serviceable football and keeps them in
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the fight, Anthony Richardson isn't getting the job back.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
It's just not happening.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
If Daniel Jones, barring injury or poor play, I don't see.
I don't see how this turns out well for Anthony Richardson.
And I just think this was, as you mentioned, the
door was opened when they made the decision to sign
Daniel Jones. There's a reason why Daniel Jones wanted to
go there, why he signed with Indianapolis, because I think
he saw this as a real possibility, a real opportunity
(08:39):
to be the starter there. And now if you're Indianapolis.
If I was a Colts fan, I would feel better
about my team going into this year with Daniel Jones.
With Daniel Jones than I would Anthony Richardson, just from
the standpoint of at least I know what I'm going
to get. At least I know what I'm going to get.
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It may not be the greatest quarterback back play at times,
but it's not like Daniel Jones hasn't played good football
for an extended period of time. He's got an offensive
minded coach there in Shane steik And who's done it
with quarterbacks like he did in Philly with Anthony Richardson.
I think it was too much of a wild card,
and I do think in agreement with you, that Indianapolis
(09:21):
is in a better spot today than they were yesterday.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
We just had to wait and see how it plays
out again. I think the.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
AFC South is just a peculiar, curious division.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Now can I ask that AFC deal.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Let me ask you a question, though, all right, because
last year when we were making our season picks, you
were so disenchanted with the AFC South you didn't even
bother picking the order. I don't even know if you
actually finished picking who you thought was going to win
the division because you were just so bored with it,
which I think is a natural reaction to the AFC South,
Like if we're being honest, So.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Like what you know what I mean, You're gonna You're
gonna come to the same conclusion again this year. The
Jaguars are going to be a disappointment. It's like, Pete,
It's going to be a disappointment.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
It's like somebody asks you, like, Hey, which is your
favorite parking lot?
Speaker 5 (10:15):
It's like, I don't know who cares, Like, what do
you mean I'm gonna have.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
To walk from all of them?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, I don't if they're in a parking space in
like the front lot, which is like the Texans.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
If it's not a lot space in the Texans.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Parking lot, then I don't want I don't want to
go in park.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I gotta walk from wherever I something.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
I'm going, Hey, rank your favorite seven elevens? What do
you mean they're all the same? Like they're all the same.
They're in a CD part of town. You go there,
you just hope your car is still intact when you
get out to that, and like this is it is
what it's like they're all You look at all these teams,
they're kind of all the same, Like there's not really
a like there's a reason why, you know, they probably
(10:53):
invented the color rush game because it was like, hey man,
how could we get people to actually want to watch
Jacksonville Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (10:59):
I know, let's do something goofy with their.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Jerseys and hope people are adjusting their televisions and we
can draw rating because they've got.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
It on the TV long enough.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Like I just so.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Now you've got Indianapolis who's in this spot that we
don't know what the hell.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Houston's gonna look like.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
They got a bunch of changes with their you know,
their offensive coaching staff that they had to make.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
You got CJ.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Stroud who's not throwing because of quote general soreness. Jacksonville
who the hell knows, and Tennessee's got a rookie quarterback
Shane Steikeen's looking at this like, hey man, I gotta
save my job. We've got a quarterback who's banged up
again and took a knee last year and we can't
depend on him. I'll just ride with Daniel Jones and
see if we can get this team out of the
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playoffs and I can and I can save my gig
here in Indianapolis. That's what it feels like to me.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I mean, if you believe that Liam Cohen is going
to come in and have.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
People on the duvo.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And totally change what the cadence has been there in Jacksonville,
then be excited. You know, it's just as open for
Cohen and company to come in and as certain apply
themselves into a situation where they could be atop the
AFC South. Same thing could happen for for the you know,
(12:24):
I ain't gonna say Tennessee, but definitely for the Colts.
I just feel like with Houston, I don't know what
I'm going to get, but I do know they're going
to win. This is what I do know. The Houston
Texans are going to win because they had CJ. Stroud
at quarterback. Now, how impressive.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Will they be?
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Will they be able to stay at top of the
AFC South? If I'm a betting man, I'm going to
say yes. But did any of those other teams do
anything to really shut down the gap between them and
the Texans? I would say definitively no, you haven't shut
(13:09):
down the gap and listen. I think that that Travis
Hunter will be an amazing addition to the Jacksonville Jaguars,
but I do not look at them and until Trevor
Lawrence proves that he's more than what he's been, I
don't really. I don't look at Jacksonville as favorably as
(13:29):
I did when the excitement was still there for Trevor
Lawrence and what he could bring to the table as
a franchise generational quarterback. He's just been pretty pretty on
Parr like, and I would say maybe even one over Parr,
you know.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
But and that's that's given him the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
That's given them a little bit. That's yeah. So to me,
I don't know what Tennessee's going to do. I still
think like Tennessee's going to be a cellar dweller, even
though I have to watch. I watched the McNair Untold,
Untold story yesterday, and he really did in his you know,
inaugural year, he really did an excellent job with with Tennessee.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
You watched you watch that McNair doc.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Okay, what was your immediate just the whole It's probably
more interesting than the AFC South conversation for me. Okay,
all right, what was your immediate takeaway from watching the
Steve McNair documentary, because I'll tell you what mine was.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
It didn't.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
It didn't tell me anything new there was I took.
I got nothing from it. Okay, Yeah, we get it.
Very very weird, a very weird situation. And it seems
like more went on. Any answers, Nope, just speculations.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Awesome, And that's I walked away from it still wondering, like, Okay,
it seemed like they came to the real conclusion that
the girlfriend did it, and maybe just maybe that's what
it was. But I still feel like I walked away
from it like there was foul play.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah, they could.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
It could have been the guy that they they found
that that sold the gun, that bought the gun. And
if you guys watched the documentary, you'll know what I'm
talking about. It could have been him that did it,
ran up on him, maybe stole something whatever. I don't
know because they didn't make it a point like could
(15:21):
have been a robbery that took place. Was there anything missing?
I don't think that they even went through any of that,
like nothing was missing when when they just came to
the conclusion that she did both of them. She hit
him and then she hit herself.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
You know what I mean, Like the way they details it, well,
she wanted to end up in his lap, and it's like,
well if you if you make the decision to call
it a day.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
I don't think you really get to determine where you land.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
It's really don't.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Like it's like, you know, throwing up a hail Mary
and getting picked off.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I mean, like, damn, she was on the floor, right,
she ended up on the floor. Yeah, just you know,
all I'll say is Jonas is the first thing tristaid
when she was watching, and she was.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Like, that's the wife.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
It was the wife. The wife wouldn't got him. And
I never thought of it that way. I never even
looked at it that way, like dang, Like you know,
you can draw different conclusions from it, you know, like
they had the boyfriend as one of the main people
that they interviewed that try to piece the story together.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Thanks for that thought. Now I got to clear all
my messages, Jesus.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I mean, it's just there. I think there's different angles
in which you could look at. They tried to blame
the best friend of falling out. It could have been him.
But there's the idea that they What I feel is
interesting about that Doc Jonas is that they positioned you
to try to figure out who committed the crime. It
(16:59):
wasn't this lady did it, and here's how she did it,
Here's why she did it. Here's definitive information that proves
that this was who did it. I didn't come away
from it feeling that way. I came away from that
doc having more questions than you know, to ask, needing answered,
(17:21):
than than questions answered from watching it.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
And so it was if they're like, all right, the end,
now you figure it out.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
No, that's not that's not our job, our Joe, you
like it's been all these years later. The guy who's
done a great job, by the way, on the Steve McNair, uh, murder, suice,
whatever you want to call it, armand Katayan, Yeah, has
done a great job. And I think he's been pretty
consistent if I remember correctly, that he doesn't buy the story,
(17:50):
like he doesn't buy just every detail of the story
that's been laid out in the way and the way
it all happened. It just it's it's a sad story.
No doubt, but there's just something about it that has
never landed right with me.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
It just seems too too clean to direct it and
put it on her.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
And by the way, how about the fact that we're
coming up on the sixteen year anniversary.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
That's crazy. It's such a that one rocked the football
communities to the core. I mean, there's so many people
that can remember. I can remember exactly where I was,
the vehicle I was driving, the city I was in,
what I was doing I was driving when that information hit.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
It's one of the most airy.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Like empty, sad feelings, like numb feelings that you could
possibly have.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
And I didn't even know Steve that well. We were
at the Pro Bowls.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
The only time that I ever really spent with him
and had a conversation was very brief, and it was
at the Pro Bowl. We were on the elevator together
and it was the year he was a co MVP
with Peyton Manning and we we were heading down to
the lobby and had a conversation in the elevator.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Real real cordial dude, real good dude.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Like you know, he was like, yeah, I'm just I'm
gladuating in our division. Da da dad this and now
he was gassing me, and I liked it when the
dude gas you up at that point in your career.
So I don't know, man, I just I did come
away from that that untold with more questions versus like,
how do you how do you come to the rest
(19:29):
on the conclusion that it was a murder and a
suicide deal? How do you come away with it as
that's your conclusion. I felt like there was just a
lot a lot of questions that were remaining at the
end of that, and we probably won't get another documentary
that clears it up.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
That's the interesting thing about it.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
They do a lot of stuff with with Brett Fahr,
but in reality, this is one of the ones where
you be like then Aaron Hernandez, but this one had
as more storyline plot twist if they dig a little deeper,
if you ask me, than even Aaron Hernandez's situation.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
And that'll wrap up our preview of the girlfriend afc here.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
On the show. He could have been one of the
other girlfriends.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
There was clearly other people involved that we didn't even
really get an opportunity to even get them developed.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
In the storyline.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
You know what, I mean, and there's somebody sitting back
somewhere like I really got away with this.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I really did this, and I'm still free. I'm really
going to do it.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
So there you go, and those are our picks to
win the AFC South. It is two Pros and a
Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington,
Jonas NOx with you here. Coming up next though, we
are going to hear from somebody in the NFL and
boil boy. If anybody knows how to gas anybody else
up this guy does, that's yours right here on FSR.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
Be sure to catch live edition of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here coming up a
little over fifteen minutes from now. It's that time every
so often we dust this bad boy off. We are
going to spin yet another wheel here live on the air.
That'll be yours here coming up a little over fifteen
minutes from now. But again everybody's Jonas Knox here at
(21:34):
the home Depot. It is about time for pros to
source the whole job with one partner. Ask about all
we can do for you at the pro desk the
Home Depot pro.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
It's about time.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
So speaking of pros, there's somebody that's a real professional
when it comes to gassing up the people around him.
And that's somebody is brand new New York Giants quarterback
Russell Wilson, who talked about not only being a mentor
(22:05):
to the other quarterbacks in the room, but also to
everybody in every room.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
I've always viewed it as, you know, you're always trying
to be the best version of you, and then then
you're always giving back to everybody else. I think that,
you know, it's not just about one team. It's about
all the teammates. It's about everybody in the building. It's
about you know, from all the way to the quarterback
room to the receivers, so the running backs, to the
tight ends, the old line, and the relationship there, all
the way to the defensive line, to the to the
corners and to the all the way to the training room.
(22:33):
You know, just to me, it's it's it's all all inclusive,
you know, and that's always the approach.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
I'm with him, and I think it's una right.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yeah, but he definitely needs to worry about himself. He
doesn't need to be that person trying to spread himself
that thin try to influence all those people around that
entire building. I just shouldn't be his focus right now.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
You see this, This is I mean, this is the
part that's difficult. Is a guy like Russell Wilson who's
out there trying to do his part. He goes above
and beyond. He's like one of those employees who always goes.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Above and beyond.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
And he's even gone so far out of the kindness
of his heart because he's a good person.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
To give back the office space that he required on
his contract, I mean that which went to a certain
certain franchise.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
That which is a sign of unselfishness. But also the
fact that he was out there trying to help the
defensive coaching staff get the defense lined up in Denver.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Run Run Run. Yeah, Like he'll never live that one down.
That's why when he.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Why should he it's a good deed. He should be
celebrated for it.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
He's got to be a very very oblivious person to
what perception of reality is and perception of fantasy is.
You know, it comes across as the people that are
in front of Russell Wilson give him all of the
energy and all of the support that he needs to
(24:00):
continue to say it, do the things that he does
in his interviews with his sound bites, versus somebody that
he knows, loves and respects telling him to like, Bro,
you might you might want to just be more seen
rather than heard, Like let what you do be the
(24:21):
representation of what you are as a leader to this
team and even as the community. Once you've been outed
and people like have an idea or are given some
type of material where you can draw conclusions that aren't
it doesn't need for you to say anything to the media.
(24:42):
You got to be very careful in how you're trying to,
you know, maneuver and build your brand, especially in a
new market, and especially in a market where the fans
are very intense about how they consume their content about
their teams and how they support the players or not
(25:04):
support the players. They'll tell you real quick, go back
to Pittsburgh, Russ, we don't want you, or whatever it
may be. It's like, no, I know, I know by experience.
Take your ass back in DC LeVar anyway. Uh, it's
just one of those things where the book is already
(25:26):
out on Russell Wilson. And I bet you if.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
You asked anyone.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Who is aware of who Russell Wilson is at this
point that the first thing that they'll say is what Jonas.
The first thing that comes to mind when you hear
Russell Wilson's name.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Is what fink dang? I was gonna say, Sierra.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
That's the first thing that you That's where you hear
Russell Wilson that is real. Now, that gives him credibility,
but that gives them credibility in terms of his taste
and who he wants to hang out with and be around.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Off the field.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
He's very very interesting with his god fearing spirituality and
his faith and all those different things. Because I mean,
his his his wife wasn't singing songs about you know,
about Jesus. She was singing about her goodies. But I mean,
(26:22):
you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I think still they didn't call. I don't think you
were going to have any problem with it. You know,
you wouldn't have any problem with it.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
You know, he didn't come with shiny suits and and
different different storylines that kind of went against You.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Know, you go to a kid's birthday party, and you
know they don't want the other kids who it's birthday
it's not to feel bad, so they hand them a
little bag of goodies. Like there's nothing wrong with that.
I mean, I don't mean. You know, she's just out
there trying to be.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Talking about a diddy party.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Yeah, it applies to the goodies she was talking about
in that that song. But it's just there's too many,
there's too many conflicting contradictions who Russell Wilson is by
listening to him and seeing some of the things that
he does, and I just feel like being in New York,
(27:14):
for one, this is his last chance. For two, how
long does he get? How long does he get in
that position? And three how do you not understand that
in the situation you're in right now, way less is
way more in this scenario, because if your personality is
misunderstood or taking the wrong way, or something you said
(27:38):
lens towards a conclusion of what fans are going to
think of the team and where it may go. And
then you're not a part of that. You're gonna get spanked.
You're gonna get spanked. Less is more.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
The less you say, the less the posts.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
You know and the times can can you know put
on the front of the tablet papers and this, that
and the other and on the back page of it.
The less you have for them to use you as
an example, and the better chance you have of acclimating
and integrating into being a positive contributor to the team.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
But he just led to to me.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
He lets his mouth walk him into situations that puts
unnecessary pressure on himself.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Yeah, I mean, listen, you know you mentioned Sierra. Check
your text.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
But so.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
The problem I have with and look, I try and
judge anybody I meet when happened. I try and judge
anybody I meet with how I meet them, Because you
could hear something about somebody from another person and then
your interaction with him is completely different. So I never
base my opinion on somebody based off somebody else's interactions.
(28:54):
I like to, you know, get my own information, do
my own analysis, and then we can judge.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
My problem that do you think that they would wear
some of the outfits they wear when they go out
to church.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
You think they wear those the church?
Speaker 5 (29:06):
Oh God, no, yeah, no, I mean I wish go
to finish your time.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
I wish.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I just thought it was very important to interrupt your
thought to ask what they wear some of these outfits
that they wear on the red carpet or when they
go out to these events.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
You know, would you wear that the church? You know?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I think of the sisters and the mothers, I think,
and the other Christian people are up in there, you know,
see the outfit that you're rocking.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
I think if they did, there'd be more people at church,
to be honest with you, hmm.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
But that's that's my thought.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
But I just problem say. God doesn't judge, No, he doesn't,
and he should come.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Come the way you are is kind of what they say,
you know, and they'll save you from there.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Don't don't worry. We'll judge for you. That's that's fine.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
But I look at I look at Russ, and I
go my problem with the whole thing.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
And it'd be one thing if you.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Heard it from one person, like hey, you know he
didn't get along or see i'd I with people in Seattle.
It's like, oh, okay, well listen, just a bad fit.
But then Denver happened, that was a disaster. Then he
gets to Pittsburgh that also turned into a disaster. And
it wasn't like Aaron Rodgers had a better year than
(30:20):
Russell Wilson. You can actually put their years together and
be like, well, they're kind of similar, They're kind of
on par with each other, and Russ was more familiar
with the system and wanted to be there. The fact
that so many teams consecutively and so many people have
wanted nothing to do with him leads me to believe
(30:42):
that there's a common denominator there, that there's something going
on there. And so when you say what's the word
you come up with first, and I say fake, it's like, man,
I don't know from personal experience. I could never speak
about the guy personally, but there seems like there's a
lot of people around the NFL that are all telling
you the same thing about how they feel about the game.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
It was it was a strong conclusion. It wasn't worth
condemning or saying you were wrong. It just wasn't as
strong as Sierra. That's all I'm gonna say. You're right,
You're one hundred percent correct, And what your assessment was
a first word that comes to mind. But Sierra, I
(31:24):
think outweighs it. Well, now they.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Get to a mark.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I mean, now they get to a market where they
can they I can recall when Tom Brady made the
decision to go to Tampa.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
They were in Tampa, and you.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Remember that report that came out with Russ and Sierra
sitting with Roger Goodell at the at the Super Bowl
and they were like, Yeah, Russell Wilson's looking for the
same situation. Go to a great market, bring in the
players he wants to bring in, do it how he
wants to do it, and then everything is going to
(32:03):
work out the way that is supposed to work out
for Russ and Sierra. Sierra gets to build her brand
in a major market and then it works out that way.
I mean, I can recall that, and every time I
hear of a decision being made, it's the first thing
I think about. Was Pittsburgh the right market for Russell Wilson? No,
(32:25):
it wasn't. If Russell Wilson would have balled out and
Pittsburgh would have balled out and did really well, then yes,
it becomes a market that would have been amazing for
Russell Wilson, and even Sierra amazing because it's a football town.
It just isn't a super large market.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
But New York.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
If he's able to go in there and bring New
York offense back to life, then this New York team,
with that defense that they got with Tibbs and who's
that Burns and now the addition of young Sticks wearing
the Carlos Emmins fifty one, if that pass rush and
(33:08):
that defense can be what it was last year and
better moving forward, this New York Giants team could sneak
up on a lot of people. And if you're one
of those teams that sneak up on people and Russ
is the quarterback that's doing it, I think that that
is tremendous for Russ. Now what's even more tremendous for
(33:29):
the Giants is if it ends up being Dark. If
I'm just being honest, if Dark steps in and starts
throwing darts and starts starts bringing this this offense to life.
You thought it was crazy when when Danny DeVito's nephew
got up in there and started doing what he was doing.
Wait till you see what happens if Jackson Dark ends
(33:51):
up being the guy that leads this team, you know,
to a more successful season. But nonetheless, there's multiple storylines.
Even if it's Jameis Winston, there's multiple storylines that would
lend to whoever is that has the success. Jonas, They're
going to be the one that reaps the spoils of
the victor, and right now Russell Wilson is in pole
(34:13):
position to be that guy.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Yep, it's all about that poll.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you
Coming up next though, a major event in the world
of sports coming up this weekend, and we're going to
spin that damn wheel right here on FSR.
Speaker 7 (34:31):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here coming up top
of next hour a little over ten minutes from now,
we are going to celebrate.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
One of the great.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Moments that we've seen in a long time, and it's
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That'll be yours here again top of next hour, a
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Speaker 5 (35:21):
Radio videos on YouTube. And now it's time for.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
Who needs an expert pick on these other sporting events
when our experts can spin a wheel.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
So now it's time for Belmont Steak Swinner.
Speaker 9 (35:43):
The Belmont Steaks final leg of the Triple Crown coming up.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Tomorrow on Fox. That's right, coming up tomorrow on Fox.
So here we go. We've got an actual wheel in
studio here with your names. It's a huge ass wheel,
and so lead the lap. What would you like to
read the names of the horses on the wheel and
then we'll start spinning away here.
Speaker 10 (36:10):
Sure I can do that for you, because there's only
eight horses in the race tomorrow, it's gonna be Hill
Road in post number one, sovereignty. The number two, of
course he won the Kentucky derby Rodriguez and number three
Bob Baffort to us say that's right, Uncaged one of
two horses trained by Todd Kletcher in post number four.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
He's thirty to one odds.
Speaker 10 (36:33):
Crudo right next to him in post number five, also
by Todd Pletcher fifteen to one odds.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Jockey John Velasquez.
Speaker 10 (36:40):
We got Baeza in post number six four to one
odds by John John cheriefs.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Doesn't matter about that?
Speaker 10 (36:47):
How about journalism at number seven creaking mistakes? Winner there
journalism And finally number eight Heart of Honor.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
All right, thirty to one odds. All right, So who
wants to spin that wheel?
Speaker 2 (36:59):
What is it matter? We're spinning a wheel like?
Speaker 7 (37:01):
What?
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Come on?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Just do that for? But if you're spinning a wheel
like I'd.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Rather just get to pick But yeah, well, all right,
who do you want?
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Who do you?
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Who do you want for? Or who are you wishing for?
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Once you reach your long ass arm out, what't you
read that long arm out?
Speaker 5 (37:17):
And spin that wheel?
Speaker 2 (37:18):
That baby? Spin the wheel?
Speaker 5 (37:20):
All right, let's go all.
Speaker 11 (37:21):
Right there you gos are that's a strong sap yeah,
come on, man.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
By by four to one.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Who's right now?
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Flavian Pratt.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Flavian Pratt, Lobby and Pratt no relation to Chris.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Oh, Chris, Chris France. He's from France. He rides in
the Belmont Stakes. It's his fourth time. Best finish is
second and twenty one with hot Rod.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Charlie. Uh, he's right in bays.
Speaker 11 (38:02):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
All, I feel all right about this.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, he's not won it, but I mean all right,
I'm okay with with with this.
Speaker 7 (38:14):
Now.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Mark is in for Lorena because Loraina doesn't work four
weeks anymore. So Mark, go ahead and uh and spin
that wheel if you will.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
Let's see you, Marks, that number is growing. Damn journalism, journalism.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
All that's appropriate.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
Yep, eight to five odds for journalism. All right, leaves Lap,
go ahead and spin that wheel please and.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Spin ere Rod regas right.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Bob Bafford stores all right, I'll think so that'll count
for right after the race if he wins, and then
two weeks later he'll piss hot knowing it's a Bob
Bafford horse. All right, So I'll go ahead and give
that spin of the wheel for the Belmont Steaks winner.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
Good dear, that's a real spam.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yeah, good on you.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
Get there, get there, get there, get there.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Get their sovereignty there.
Speaker 10 (39:11):
It is all right, the favorite two to one for sovereignty,
Bill Motts.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
There, so they would never win.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
So yeah, so there you go. There's your spin of
the wheel.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Because it's yours. I hope, I hope he'd
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Loses just away as we await the results of the Belmont,
which should be a fun race on Fox tomorrow.
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