June 17, 2025 • 40 mins
Micah Parsons and TJ Watt inch closer to huge paydays because neither team can afford to lose them. Lanorris Sellers supposedly turned down a huge NIL payday to stay put at South Carolina. Plus, Lee off the leash, ‘Would You Rather…?’ and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Get this, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
By the way, you at a Are you at a
Penn State State College right now?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah? Now?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Is that the same place where Lead the Lab helped
himself to a bag of chips?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
That was correct? Yeah, I'm in that room where they
got all the goodies. That's right. It's very tempting.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Before we to the tailgate. Before went to the Stick
City tailgate, LeVar was doing his show and I was
doing mine right afterwards, and I'm waiting. I'm waiting as
LaVar's finishing up, and Lee just grabs a bag of
chips and starts eating a bag of chips and didn't
belong to him.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
A touched one man.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
It's but there's like a bunch of Halloween candy leftovers
and chips.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I toldly like, look, man, like we're in a very
very secure area. And this secure area happens to be
during football season, so it's even more high security. You know,
you got all kinds of people out here on a Saturday,
on a Saturday on game day. Yes, and Lee's just
(01:49):
walking around the facility, Like I was just walking around
the facility. I'm like, where did you go?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Like, Bro, it was a big old TV I was
watching watching the.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Bro like something. It's interesting knowing like the whole spatial
awareness and understanding of what's going on around you. Like
you were so close to danger, bro, Like it's the
wildest thing. Like you had no idea how close the
danger you were, and you you were you were running
(02:28):
the risk of getting grabbed up, yoked up, thrown up,
tossed up, and sat down before you even realize what happened.
Hey man, you know what. I'm sitting there looking at
him like he comes back in the room. I'm like, leeve,
you can't do that. Yeah, we're can't. You can't just
(02:50):
walk around the main Bruh. You're in the Death Star
on game day and you have, you have no credential,
nobody knows who you are on game day and find them.
We got coaches offices, you got game plans on boards,
you know you got, you got draft boards, you got,
(03:13):
you got recruiting boards, you got I mean Lee. I
looked at Lee and I was like the fact that
you were totally oblivious to the fact that you're in
Penn State's football building, the last building, walking around unaccompanied
with no type of.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Trophy case and watching the TVs.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
So, you know, the other part of this is, so
we're in State College last year. We're staying at the
Graduate Hotel and we get there to do the Friday
morning show, and then LeVar and I have shows on Saturday,
and so we were going to fly out later on
that night, but we were going to do our Saturday shows.
They're from the building, and LaVar was nice enough to
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get us a space stairs so that we could do
our shows. And so I go downstairs at the hotel
because Levar's show starts at noon Eastern time. And I
go downstairs at the hotel Saturday morning, like around I
don't know, eleven thirty, like a half hour before Levar's show,
and I get a coffee. And as I'm walking back
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towards the elevator, I see Lee scrambling out of the
elevator with all his bags and I'm like, well, geez,
you should have been there by now. Lee was in
such a panic. And then he got over there and
he tells me he's given me instructions on how to
get into the building when I arrive and we walk
(04:43):
in there, and I can clearly see that, Okay, like
we've got to be careful here. You got to tread lightly,
like there is. If you're gonna get coffee, you go once,
and you make straight to where you're going. Yes, everything
you do, you go straight to where you're going, you
go straight back. And even that is a risk. Lee
gave me the tour.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
You're in the weight room.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I saw everything. It was great.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, I was in danger, didn't even know it. And
here's what's crazy. Here's what's going to happen, because this
is what always happens, right, this is what happens. Y'all
get caught up. And the first thing Lee's gonna do,
it's say we're here with LeVar, buddy. The first thing
(05:29):
he's going to do, Hey, buddy, no, need to panic,
no need to worry. We're with LeVar, we do Fox
Sports Radio. We're here with him. That's the first thing,
y'all going to do Depth of Coaches and then you
know what's going to happen. You know what's going to
happen is they are going to find me where I'm
supposed to be. And mind you, had it happened after
(05:52):
I went over to the Stick City tailgate, oh god,
y'all would like it would have been no you you,
it just would have been over. Like I don't know
what they would have done with you being on air,
but you wasn't finishing that show.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I tell you, LeVar. LaVar leaves after his show. It's
fifty five, so my show starts in five minutes. LaVar
final words as he's quietly backing out of the room
where we're doing the shows from, he just said, hey, hey,
you don't leave here. You don't leave this this area
(06:26):
right here, this is where you can stay. And if
anybody asks, you don't know me, I don't know you.
I was like, oh my god, terrified. I thought James
Franklin was going to come in with a lasso and
like take us out by the hips.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It was Frank. That's the thing. I know exactly who
it is that will come in and get y'all. I
know I can see it. I saw it playing out him.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Oh my god, so fun met everyone the day before, so.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
You didn't meet everybody, and it ain't like they're going
to be like, oh yeah, you're the guy. So on
the field with LeVar yesterday, brouh and you saw how
tight that practice was. You couldn't do nothing. Lee got
his camera out there, like buddy, Buddy, Buddy. And you know,
(07:26):
they they use real language around here. They don't play around.
They're like, what that for you doing? Buddy? Put it down? Please?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Like sorry, Buddy, We'll just try.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
You know. I'm just over here with Jack Ham camming
it up.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
A couple of still shots.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Buddy. I moved away from Lee. He was on his own.
He was by himself. Oh my god, Coachi, coach said,
can you please make sure I know exactly who it
is that you're bringing please?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Well, it is two pros and a cup of Joe
here on Fox Sports Radio, speaking of State College, speaking
of Penn State. Somebody who's in line to make Penn
State even more proud than they already are is one
Micah Parsons. Now there's been some discussions about, all right, well,
what is this contract going to get done? When's this
deal gonna get done? Miles Garrett spoke with Abby Jones
(08:29):
of DLLLS Sports and said the following about Micah Parsons quote,
I think he deserves whatever he's earned. I mean, the
guy is special. Once I got the chance to train
with him, I've seen his work ethic, I've seen how
he attacks the weights running. He is one hundred percent
committed to his craft and he's getting better every day.
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He also went on to say he's someone who produces
on the field and has that dedication to the game.
He should get every penny he's owed now Micah Parson.
Since reportedly, we've got a little more detail on the
negotiations with the Dallas Cowboys, and these are always fun.
According to Clarence Hill, the negotiation started with Micah Parsons
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and Jerry Jones. They had some sort of a soft
agreement on the terms, but Jerry Jones had never spoken
with Micah's agent, David Mullagetta, and that was back in
March and since then it's just kind of like whatever,
we just haven't really gotten the deal done yet, and
(09:33):
so Micah's kind of expressed a little bit of maybe confusion.
He said the following to Clarence Jones, it's gonna end
up costing him more, so on and so forth, and
he's absolutely right. But I would say this about Jerry Jones,
and I like to call this the fashionably late tax.
I don't think Jerry Jones mind's paying it. I really don't.
(09:53):
I think Jerry Jones is okay with the fact that, Yeah, listen, TJ.
Watt might get his deal done first, Trey Hendrickson might
get his deal done first. MICHAEH. Parsons, Listen, if it
cost us a little bit more on the back end
and we can stay in the news cycle and be
discussed a little bit more, then we're gonna stay in
the new cycle and be discussed a little bit more.
I don't think there's any question that the deal's gonna
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get done this offseason. I just don't think Jerry Jones
cares at all about it taken longer and costing them more.
I don't think he cares. I really don't.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, I buy that. I buy that. At this point,
I think it's happened enough where that that feeling of
that sense of drama, will it get done? Like it
was at the most craziest of a feverish pitch with
Dak Prescott, and the unthinkable happened, Like he got it.
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Damn he got it everybody. I mean, I'll say unthinkable.
Based off of the conversations that were being had before
he got his contract. People thought the number that he
was going for, what was it, like forty million at
that point, Yeah, I believe ye like forty million a year.
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And people were like, yeah, it's not going to happen.
He's not going to get to where he wants to be.
And there were so many debates about where people fell
that everybody decided, you know, we live in a take
sides culture. Now you ever noticed that our culture is
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so take sides driven, And in that instance, everybody that
was doing coverage on football, we're taking sides with Dak Prescott.
And you had the pro side, you had the conside,
and everybody had their arguments and their discussion points as
to why they felt that it would or wouldn't happen
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the way that people may have put it out there,
the way that maybe you know, Dak may have you know,
alluded to whatever it may have been, there were reasons
why on both sides. You do not have those conversations
taking place now. They are not These are not headlines
that are dominating the sports world. It's actually barely being discussed. Yeah,
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and knowing that that's how this is being handled, there
is no real media value to not getting the deal
done with Micah Parsons. It's been very non dramatic. It's
been very very low impact. There is no feverish pitch
about it. And I think that that's good that in
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the end, that's a good thing because here's the reason why,
whether you're whether you're for it or you're against it,
it's being so intensely covered and the stakes are being
raised so high and high you saw it being handled
when Dak Prescott or when Zeke Elliott was doing his contract.
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It builds this interest level, and it builds this narrative
that you got to figure out which side you fall
on or what side was correct in what took place.
And I don't know that it gives a guy the
fairest of opportunities to just be the player that they
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need to be, because that's ultimately What it comes back
to is being the player that you need to be
for the team, and it becomes more about are they
living up to their contract, not are they being the
player they need to be. And for some strange reason,
I think people come up with by position what they
believe that value represents, and I don't know that it's
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accurate or not. I just know that very few people
ever live up to the expectation of what is created
it appearance wise. For that player that waits and negotiates,
like even with Hendrickson, right, it just creates this narrative
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where it's like, Oh, you were going to hold out
for this, You did all of that to get this contract,
and this is all you're going to Oh you go
get hurt. Oh you didn't get the same amount of
sacks that you did last year. What you ate? The
dude almost got twenty sacks. So to me, the fact
that Micah is doing his own podcast and when he
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goes viral, it's generally something that he said or he's done,
and it's nothing you know that you would say. You know,
it makes you feel uncomfortable about him. You know he's
in you know, he's I don't know where he was
at but he was abroad. He was on the Wall,
the Great Wall. He was you know, sumo wrestling. He
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he does his podcast, He talked about, you know, all
kinds of different topics. I think Michael Parsons has done
it the right way, regardless of what people may have
to say about He's rubbed people the wrong way inside
the building. Da da da. It's been quiet. It's been quiet.
You have not heard anyone saying disparaging things about him,
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and I think that's a good thing. And you gotta
assume the deal is going to get done. I just
asked the question Jonas, how big is the deal? Is
it just below Miles Garrett? Is it right with Miles Garrett?
Is it above Miles Garrett? Those aren't only real questions
that to me are the major questions here in this topic.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I mean, I think he beats Miles Garrett. I think
that's I think whoever, And that's why maybe when you've
got three at the same position, maybe that's sort of
what the back and forth is. And one of the
things that was mentioned, and I think it Ian Rappaford
of NFL Network is that maybe part of the delay,
(16:04):
specifically with the t J Watt deal is the fact
that nobody knows for sure the exact numbers behind Miles
Garrett's deal, Like they know that the year per the
dollar amount per year, maybe some of the guarantees, but
they're not maybe totally sure how some of those guarantees
are split up and ration that it was it was
something along those lines, and so maybe that's the delay.
(16:26):
But like we talked about yesterday, you know, Brooke Pryor,
who covers the Steelers for ESPN, saying that, well, you
know the Steelers, you know, weren't they were kind of
surprised that TJ. Watt would want to reset the market. Well,
why would you be surprised. He's he's had a better
career than Miles Garrett. That shouldn't be a surprise.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Micah Parsons, No checkers and no, no, no, no checkered flag.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Yes, he's never he's never assaulted. He's never assaulted a
man with his own helmet.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
That's happened. We didn't have to go that far. But
there there are no real which is at all, no
checkers flows on either one of those guys.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I think he drives safe, which which is you know,
which helps as well too. I just like the Michael
Parsons stuff. Yeah, Dak Prescott, I get the debate. I
can get the debate. I never thought that Dak Prescott
was going to play anywhere other than Dallas. They were
never going to let him out of the building. I
get the debate. Ceedee Lamb, I could kind of understand
the debate. Zeke Elliott I could kind of understand the debate.
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There is no debate with Michaeh Parsons at all, whatsoever.
He should reset the market. He's in his prime, He's
produced every single year, and Jerry Jones does not care
about the fact that it may cost him a little
bit more. It's the fashionably late tax. I'm willing to
pay it because we're going to be in the story
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and we're going to be the center of the story
throughout the course of training camp leading up to the season.
Whether it gets done right before the year or during
training camp, this deal is getting done. Man. There's no
nothing about TJ.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Watt.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
I think I'll pose a question to you, do you
believe there's more of a chance that the TJ. Watt
negotiations go sideways or Micah Parsons negotiations go sideways because
I think it's TJ.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Watt I got. I have to say there's more pressure
on Pittsburgh in this scenario than Dallas because there is
no there's no reasoning to exercise as it applies to Dallas.
If you were to lose TJ. Watt based off of
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not getting a contract done, I believe that has way
more impact than out of the two because I don't
see there being any circumstance any way that Dallas doesn't
do the deal with Michael Parsons. There are no real
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MICA's not come out and made it a thing. Dallas
hasn't really come out and made it a thing. So
the fact that there hasn't been very much conversation about
it at all, I mean, there was that one moment
where could it get combustible where you talk about I
don't even know his agent. I haven't talked to his agent.
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Maybe that was the moment that was the crossroad where
it could have happened and it could have gained momentum
to be a conversation, but it didn't happen. Now, but
there's so much going on in Pittsburgh right now. There's
so many question marks with Pittsburgh and the way the
quarterback situation has been. It's like Days of our Lives.
It's like you tune in for your stories, like, what
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are you doing now? Dad's watching the stories? What's the stories?
Days of the Stealers Live? Like what it's going like?
The from from Fields to Wilson to now Rogers, George Pickens,
the Pickens Like it's just it's just been a constant
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no no time for rest, no time for comfort or
feeling really good about what's going on. And it's tolerable
because the team still is good and the team still wins.
If you get rid of or if you lose out
on having one of these singular major elements assets, that
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is the reason why you're still able to win in
spite of and TJ. Watt. The implications of that, I mean,
I think it's large enough to lose your job. I
think the implications of something going wrong with the TJ.
Watt situation and what could follow after after that in
terms of the season would be large enough for somebody
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to lose their job.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
It does, and that's why I pose the question because
I don't I don't think Mike will get his deal done.
No concerns there but I'm with you. It does feel
something feels a little off about the T. J. Watt
Steelers stuff. And maybe it's because it's the second time,
you know, he's he's looking to get paid.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Ben Roethlisberger was on his podcast and you know said, listen,
last time he was looking to get a contract, he
held in. This time he's holding out, he goes. So
there's a clear difference in his approach towards wanting to
get a deal done. I think, you know, if I'm
a betting man, I bet that they do get a
deal done with TJ. Watt. But man, it wouldn't It
wouldn't surprise me if if Pittsburgh was like, look, this
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is getting too steep for us. If we can get
back enough draft capital and go in another direction, maybe
we'll go there.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
But this is going to a little bit pray. It
would be one of the biggest moves in Steeler history,
and it would most likely be one of the biggest
mistakes in Pittsburgh Steeler history. They gotta pay him. You
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cannot afford to not pay the man what he has
established and earned as a Pittsburgh Steeler, which is the
right to be compensated fairly and kept on the team.
You do not have a replacement of the value that TJ.
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Watt brings to your team as the position that he
plays or a personality that represents that team. You don't
have a replacement, So you do not you do not
allow for that to happen. You do not allow to
Watt to not be a part of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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So it shouldn't be a big deal. But if it
were to turn into a big deal, then now all
that does is make things even more weirder in terms
of how you're viewing. Where is this Pittsburgh team at
this Is that turning into something where that's this is
not the Pittsburgh way. It's not the Pittsburgh way. And
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that's going to become a major conversation that ensues, and
how do you handle that. It's to be interesting.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
It's two pros and a cup of Joe here on
Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you coming
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the money's nice, but we like where we are in
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Speaker 2 (23:48):
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Speaker 3 (24:01):
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Coming up a little over fifteen minutes from now, we
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That'll be yours here about fifteen minutes from now here
on FSR, SO, we were talking about the TJ. Watt
Micah Parsons potential paydays whenever that they decide to get
that done, if they get it done. Leonora Sellers, who's
one of the more exciting quarterbacks in college football, plays
for the South Carolina game Cocks. Him and his father
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did an interview recently with Bruce Feldman of Fox and
of The Athletic, and Seller's father said that Sellers turned
down he received a two year, eight million dollar nil
off from an unidentified school to try and tempt the
quarterback into transferring to from the game Cocks. And so
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there's some speculator, well why didn't he make the move?
And Leonora Seller said the following, I've been playing football
all of my life for free. I've built relationships here,
my family's here, my brother's here. There's no reason for
me to go someplace else and start over. Do you
buy the number based on your knowledge of how the
recruiting process goes that schools are out there throwing around
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two years eight million dollars for Leonora Sellers.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
An, you know the thing about nil right now, Jonas,
is that no one knows.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
What to believe.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
No one knows. I don't care how much of an
expert people think they are or people they know. Unless
you are directly dealing with the person who is doing
this these deals and making this money, no one knows.
But what's going to happen is with this new judgment
(26:05):
coming you know, already happening, they're now going to have
to kind of itemize and show very clearly what it
is that they're doing to make the money that they're
being paid. And if they're not doing it, that's going
to be a voilation and whatever it may be. And
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also I believe if I read some of the reports
you know, accurately, that there's a committee that's going to
decide if what the person is doing and what they're
getting paid even matches and have the right to approve
it or reject it. So as we're moving forward, I
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think there's going to be more. I don't know if
the information that is being you know, circulated to the
body that's going to decide if you're if it's legitimate
that you're doing this and you're getting paid X to
do this. I don't know if those get you know,
(27:11):
may made public knowledge. But I do think where we're
at right now as it applies to that article right now,
I would not be surprised if that were the offer
on the table to get them. You gotta pay to
get kids today. You got to pay to get them.
(27:31):
And whether people are okay with it or not, that's
just where that's just where things are, and you got it.
You gotta pay to play man, And how much that
is I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I I just it's hard to know what to believe.
And I go back to my thought on this when
NIL started getting introduced and they started opening up the
floodgates on all this. It's almost as if they they
didn't think long term about all the other things that
come attached to this, whether it's the fake agents that
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are at the negotiating deals, whether it's you know, the
transfer portal, this that you know, like all of these
other things that came to taxes, all of these other
things they came along with it. They were just like, no, no,
athletes deserve to be paid players agreed, But there's there's
stuff that you need to consider when it comes to
doing that. It's not just a you know, a black
(28:27):
and white topic of hey, pay the athletes and then
we move on. No, there's all these other things that
have come up, and it's almost like they took care
of the initial which was the easy part, and now
they're having to like, yeah, but we've got to like
tighten the screws on this, and we've got to tighten
this up here, and we've got to make the move here.
And you've got and we've talked about this several times before.
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You've got athletes who are you know, walking away to
go take another deal somewhere else after agreeing to a
deal with one school you've got, you know, certain schools,
you know, maybe promising one athlete this and another athlete.
Just like the whole thing is the wild West when
it comes to getting this stuff figured out. And so
(29:11):
when you hear Leonora Sellers and his dad talk about,
you know, reportedly there being a two year, eight million
dollar offer on the table, I mean probably, But haven't
we heard stories about schools that haven't paid, that have
promised always that too, like that have promised money and
then haven't paid their portion of them. Like it's just
(29:32):
the whole thing's bizarre.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Man, you have to I guess the way I'm saying,
I guess well. I mean, I have a son in college.
You you're you. You sign a deal with your collective,
Like this is the way I understand. It could be
different at different schools. I'm not sure. But you sign
a deal with your collective, and within your collective it
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has how much you will make as a stipend based
upon what it is that you're doing within the contract,
meaning you have x amount of appearances that you have
to make. So the collective says, okay, we're taking kids
to go do this like we just did the Carly
(30:19):
Short Foundation you know scholarship, you know deal for Brandon
Short and there were a few players there that counts
towards their appearances. Right, you're logging an appearance, meaning you're
justifying the contract that you've signed. You're satisfying the deliverables
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in your contract. Now, say, for instance, you have that appearance,
you're scheduled to go make that appearance. They're able to
leverage your name coming to the appearance and you don't
show up, but you still get paid for the appearance
within your stipend. And but you haven't satisfied what your
(31:04):
your are. You know what what what your deliverables are.
They're in where to me, I believe the potential of
the problems are going to take place or may be
taking place. Jonas. So while we're saying, okay, the kid
has eight million dollars on the table, what does he
have to do for that eight million dollars, Because it's
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just not it's not just playing football. It's going to
be other things that he's going to have to be
committed to doing in order to make that money. So
what is that and is he going to do it?
You get there some of these people complaining that they're
not getting their money. Are you doing what what it
is you're being asked to do, because in some cases,
(31:47):
what I'm hearing is they're not. And so if you're
not and they can't justify why they're giving you this money,
some of it you're not going to get paid because
you haven't fulfilled. Like say, it's a major sponsor. It's
a major sponsor that's a part of a major event
for the university. Your name is on there, you are
(32:09):
a main attraction to doing it, and you don't do it.
That's a problem, right, And now it's like, all right, well,
we're not going to pay you for an appearance you
didn't make. And now the sponsor has to deal with it,
the university has to deal with it. You know, you
don't know if this turns into losing a sponsor over
(32:31):
not having the cooperation and the participation of the athlete
that was involved. There's just a lot to it, man,
there's a lot to it. But this is a new time,
it's a new place, and a lot of these things
are now having to be established marketplace, market value, you know,
all these different things are having to be you know,
(32:52):
kind of defined for the first time.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
I mean, can't we just go back to the good
old days where there was a duffle bag full of
cash on your door step.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
You know, now that we're here, when'd you say, a
lot of people will be like dang. It was hard
and it was.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Stressful for men, it was easier.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Seems easier. I mean, would I.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Mean a duffle bag full of cash? You're not reporting
that to pay taxes, are you?
Speaker 1 (33:23):
No? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:24):
So I just felt like it was a lot easier, man.
Blue Chips was really ahead of its time.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Man.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
They tried to put everybody up on game on how
it should have been done.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
It's unfortunate, man, they put that team together.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
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Speaker 1 (34:55):
Let's make hiss to and now would would you rather
your random? Topics? Sports or otherwise? All right?
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Lead to lab? What do we got, oh man? So
many to choose from?
Speaker 1 (35:08):
My kid?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Decide? How about this?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Oh God? Would you never?
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Would you rather never watch another football game again, or
have to watch every w NBA game.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
What do you mean, watch every w n B A game?
Speaker 4 (35:23):
You have to watch w NBA games every single night,
or you have to never watch football again?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Oh boy, I'd rather just not watch football. Geez, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Okay, Now how.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Many I just wouldn't want to do it?
Speaker 3 (35:39):
How many w NBA games are we talking?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Like?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
At least one a night? At least one to night.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
If it's just one, I guess do you have to
watch it from like that? Do they log your eyes? Like?
Do you have to watch it from start to finish?
Speaker 3 (35:55):
It's like an iPad? Or you watch Are you watching film?
Because we're tracking you on the iPad?
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Okay, if you keep it on all day long, you
could track it throughout the day as long as it's
on the TV and you put in a full game,
but you got out the day.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
You gotta watch at least one game a day collective.
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I'll take that because I can.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Also I can also bet on it.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
You also have multiple TVs and multiple ways to watch,
so yeah, that's fine. I could. I could. I could
live with that, I volume long because I can casually
look at it when I want to and not look
at it or whatever.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
That'd be fine just in the background. Yeah, that'd be fine.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
To save your paintings that I don't look.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
At, by the way, I got it. I got kids,
I don't look at.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
You know what I mean? Dig it? To save your job?
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Would you rather have to tackle Derrick Henry or guard
Shay Gildas Alexander one on one?
Speaker 1 (36:52):
I would do both if I if I could, you
know what I mean, If I could, I do both
without even worrying about if I'd lose my job or
keep my job. I would love to have the opportunity
to hit Derrick Henry. That would be that would be wonderful.
I mean, you know, I never met a man I
couldn't take down and s g A. I would love
(37:13):
to guard him. I would love to guard him because
I would hack the hell out of it.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
And and you know he's going to really sell the
foul to make you look dominant, because that's what he does.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
He could sell the foul. I don't care. I'm going
to hack him bad. I'm going to get like four
out of well you get six fouls in the league. Yeah,
I'm gonna get four out of the six fouls on
one plate on one play.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah, I'll go, I'll go as I'll go Sga as
well too. I'm not. I don't want to tackle Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
I don't want to get turned into a Pez dispenser
because Derrick Henry's got a red ass about something some
take I had about the Titans years ago. I don't
want to deal that.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
I would love to hit him. I love to feel that.
I love to feel that big name players contact.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Big name players. You might be on the move this offseason.
Would you rather get Jannie or KD? Est honest, I
love KD to death. It's not because I wouldn't want KD.
But I just feel like, you know, he's getting up there.
It's like more is it?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Is it safe to say you feel like with a
Yannis his better days may still be ahead of him,
while Kd's better days are what we say most certainly
behind him.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Like, yeah, but I don't know that Jannie is. I
think he's past and he's still a great player, but his.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Best days are behind him too.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah, I think so, Dan.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
I don't think so, But I'm not gonna go with
that one and if so, I'm going to I'd be
more I would be more willing to find out that
Giannie's better days are behind them rather than trying to
That's fair, know that that that Kd's probably are.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
That's fair. What a weird career Katie's had, though, if
you think about it and talk about like an all
time great player who just I just want to rent.
I don't really want to one anywhere. I just want
to with.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
That, you know, So it depends on what your thoughts are.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Anyway, guys anymore inspired by the local news, would you
rather lose an eye or one of the family jewels?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Oh, it's family jewels because you still can produce with
that one that I've rather have both my eyes to
be able to see God.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah, but only have a one eye would make watching
the WSL.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
I got all my kids, I got, I got all
the kids I want. You could tag both of them,
to be honest,
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Get this, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
By the way, you at a Are you at a
Penn State State College right now?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah? Now?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Is that the same place where Lead the Lab helped
himself to a bag of chips?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
That was correct? Yeah, I'm in that room where they
got all the goodies. That's right. It's very tempting.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Before we to the tailgate. Before went to the Stick
City tailgate, LeVar was doing his show and I was
doing mine right afterwards, and I'm waiting. I'm waiting as
LaVar's finishing up, and Lee just grabs a bag of
chips and starts eating a bag of chips and didn't
belong to him.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
A touched one man.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
It's but there's like a bunch of Halloween candy leftovers
and chips.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
I toldly like, look, man, like we're in a very
very secure area. And this secure area happens to be
during football season, so it's even more high security. You know,
you got all kinds of people out here on a Saturday,
on a Saturday on game day. Yes, and Lee's just
(01:49):
walking around the facility, Like I was just walking around
the facility. I'm like, where did you go?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Like, Bro, it was a big old TV I was
watching watching the.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Bro like something. It's interesting knowing like the whole spatial
awareness and understanding of what's going on around you. Like
you were so close to danger, bro, Like it's the
wildest thing. Like you had no idea how close the
danger you were, and you you were you were running
(02:28):
the risk of getting grabbed up, yoked up, thrown up,
tossed up, and sat down before you even realize what happened.
Hey man, you know what. I'm sitting there looking at
him like he comes back in the room. I'm like, leeve,
you can't do that. Yeah, we're can't. You can't just
(02:50):
walk around the main Bruh. You're in the Death Star
on game day and you have, you have no credential,
nobody knows who you are on game day and find them.
We got coaches offices, you got game plans on boards,
you know you got, you got draft boards, you got,
(03:13):
you got recruiting boards, you got I mean Lee. I
looked at Lee and I was like the fact that
you were totally oblivious to the fact that you're in
Penn State's football building, the last building, walking around unaccompanied
with no type of.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Trophy case and watching the TVs.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
So, you know, the other part of this is, so
we're in State College last year. We're staying at the
Graduate Hotel and we get there to do the Friday
morning show, and then LeVar and I have shows on Saturday,
and so we were going to fly out later on
that night, but we were going to do our Saturday shows.
They're from the building, and LaVar was nice enough to
(03:59):
get us a space stairs so that we could do
our shows. And so I go downstairs at the hotel
because Levar's show starts at noon Eastern time. And I
go downstairs at the hotel Saturday morning, like around I
don't know, eleven thirty, like a half hour before Levar's show,
and I get a coffee. And as I'm walking back
(04:21):
towards the elevator, I see Lee scrambling out of the
elevator with all his bags and I'm like, well, geez,
you should have been there by now. Lee was in
such a panic. And then he got over there and
he tells me he's given me instructions on how to
get into the building when I arrive and we walk
(04:43):
in there, and I can clearly see that, Okay, like
we've got to be careful here. You got to tread lightly,
like there is. If you're gonna get coffee, you go once,
and you make straight to where you're going. Yes, everything
you do, you go straight to where you're going, you
go straight back. And even that is a risk. Lee
gave me the tour.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
You're in the weight room.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I saw everything. It was great.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, I was in danger, didn't even know it. And
here's what's crazy. Here's what's going to happen, because this
is what always happens, right, this is what happens. Y'all
get caught up. And the first thing Lee's gonna do,
it's say we're here with LeVar, buddy. The first thing
(05:29):
he's going to do, Hey, buddy, no, need to panic,
no need to worry. We're with LeVar, we do Fox
Sports Radio. We're here with him. That's the first thing,
y'all going to do Depth of Coaches and then you
know what's going to happen. You know what's going to
happen is they are going to find me where I'm
supposed to be. And mind you, had it happened after
(05:52):
I went over to the Stick City tailgate, oh god,
y'all would like it would have been no you you,
it just would have been over. Like I don't know
what they would have done with you being on air,
but you wasn't finishing that show.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I tell you, LeVar. LaVar leaves after his show. It's
fifty five, so my show starts in five minutes. LaVar
final words as he's quietly backing out of the room
where we're doing the shows from, he just said, hey, hey,
you don't leave here. You don't leave this this area
(06:26):
right here, this is where you can stay. And if
anybody asks, you don't know me, I don't know you.
I was like, oh my god, terrified. I thought James
Franklin was going to come in with a lasso and
like take us out by the hips.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
It was Frank. That's the thing. I know exactly who
it is that will come in and get y'all. I
know I can see it. I saw it playing out him.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Oh my god, so fun met everyone the day before, so.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
You didn't meet everybody, and it ain't like they're going
to be like, oh yeah, you're the guy. So on
the field with LeVar yesterday, brouh and you saw how
tight that practice was. You couldn't do nothing. Lee got
his camera out there, like buddy, Buddy, Buddy. And you know,
(07:26):
they they use real language around here. They don't play around.
They're like, what that for you doing? Buddy? Put it down? Please?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Like sorry, Buddy, We'll just try.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
You know. I'm just over here with Jack Ham camming
it up.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
A couple of still shots.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Buddy. I moved away from Lee. He was on his own.
He was by himself. Oh my god, Coachi, coach said,
can you please make sure I know exactly who it
is that you're bringing please?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Well, it is two pros and a cup of Joe
here on Fox Sports Radio, speaking of State College, speaking
of Penn State. Somebody who's in line to make Penn
State even more proud than they already are is one
Micah Parsons. Now there's been some discussions about, all right, well,
what is this contract going to get done? When's this
deal gonna get done? Miles Garrett spoke with Abby Jones
(08:29):
of DLLLS Sports and said the following about Micah Parsons quote,
I think he deserves whatever he's earned. I mean, the
guy is special. Once I got the chance to train
with him, I've seen his work ethic, I've seen how
he attacks the weights running. He is one hundred percent
committed to his craft and he's getting better every day.
(08:50):
He also went on to say he's someone who produces
on the field and has that dedication to the game.
He should get every penny he's owed now Micah Parson.
Since reportedly, we've got a little more detail on the
negotiations with the Dallas Cowboys, and these are always fun.
According to Clarence Hill, the negotiation started with Micah Parsons
(09:13):
and Jerry Jones. They had some sort of a soft
agreement on the terms, but Jerry Jones had never spoken
with Micah's agent, David Mullagetta, and that was back in
March and since then it's just kind of like whatever,
we just haven't really gotten the deal done yet, and
(09:33):
so Micah's kind of expressed a little bit of maybe confusion.
He said the following to Clarence Jones, it's gonna end
up costing him more, so on and so forth, and
he's absolutely right. But I would say this about Jerry Jones,
and I like to call this the fashionably late tax.
I don't think Jerry Jones mind's paying it. I really don't.
(09:53):
I think Jerry Jones is okay with the fact that, Yeah, listen, TJ.
Watt might get his deal done first, Trey Hendrickson might
get his deal done first. MICHAEH. Parsons, Listen, if it
cost us a little bit more on the back end
and we can stay in the news cycle and be
discussed a little bit more, then we're gonna stay in
the new cycle and be discussed a little bit more.
I don't think there's any question that the deal's gonna
(10:14):
get done this offseason. I just don't think Jerry Jones
cares at all about it taken longer and costing them more.
I don't think he cares. I really don't.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, I buy that. I buy that. At this point,
I think it's happened enough where that that feeling of
that sense of drama, will it get done? Like it
was at the most craziest of a feverish pitch with
Dak Prescott, and the unthinkable happened, Like he got it.
(10:48):
Damn he got it everybody. I mean, I'll say unthinkable.
Based off of the conversations that were being had before
he got his contract. People thought the number that he
was going for, what was it, like forty million at
that point, Yeah, I believe ye like forty million a year.
(11:10):
And people were like, yeah, it's not going to happen.
He's not going to get to where he wants to be.
And there were so many debates about where people fell
that everybody decided, you know, we live in a take
sides culture. Now you ever noticed that our culture is
(11:33):
so take sides driven, And in that instance, everybody that
was doing coverage on football, we're taking sides with Dak Prescott.
And you had the pro side, you had the conside,
and everybody had their arguments and their discussion points as
to why they felt that it would or wouldn't happen
(11:56):
the way that people may have put it out there,
the way that maybe you know, Dak may have you know,
alluded to whatever it may have been, there were reasons
why on both sides. You do not have those conversations
taking place now. They are not These are not headlines
that are dominating the sports world. It's actually barely being discussed. Yeah,
(12:22):
and knowing that that's how this is being handled, there
is no real media value to not getting the deal
done with Micah Parsons. It's been very non dramatic. It's
been very very low impact. There is no feverish pitch
about it. And I think that that's good that in
(12:42):
the end, that's a good thing because here's the reason why,
whether you're whether you're for it or you're against it,
it's being so intensely covered and the stakes are being
raised so high and high you saw it being handled
when Dak Prescott or when Zeke Elliott was doing his contract.
(13:07):
It builds this interest level, and it builds this narrative
that you got to figure out which side you fall
on or what side was correct in what took place.
And I don't know that it gives a guy the
fairest of opportunities to just be the player that they
(13:30):
need to be, because that's ultimately What it comes back
to is being the player that you need to be
for the team, and it becomes more about are they
living up to their contract, not are they being the
player they need to be. And for some strange reason,
I think people come up with by position what they
believe that value represents, and I don't know that it's
(13:52):
accurate or not. I just know that very few people
ever live up to the expectation of what is created
it appearance wise. For that player that waits and negotiates,
like even with Hendrickson, right, it just creates this narrative
(14:12):
where it's like, Oh, you were going to hold out
for this, You did all of that to get this contract,
and this is all you're going to Oh you go
get hurt. Oh you didn't get the same amount of
sacks that you did last year. What you ate? The
dude almost got twenty sacks. So to me, the fact
that Micah is doing his own podcast and when he
(14:34):
goes viral, it's generally something that he said or he's done,
and it's nothing you know that you would say. You know,
it makes you feel uncomfortable about him. You know he's
in you know, he's I don't know where he was
at but he was abroad. He was on the Wall,
the Great Wall. He was you know, sumo wrestling. He
(14:56):
he does his podcast, He talked about, you know, all
kinds of different topics. I think Michael Parsons has done
it the right way, regardless of what people may have
to say about He's rubbed people the wrong way inside
the building. Da da da. It's been quiet. It's been quiet.
You have not heard anyone saying disparaging things about him,
(15:19):
and I think that's a good thing. And you gotta
assume the deal is going to get done. I just
asked the question Jonas, how big is the deal? Is
it just below Miles Garrett? Is it right with Miles Garrett?
Is it above Miles Garrett? Those aren't only real questions
that to me are the major questions here in this topic.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I mean, I think he beats Miles Garrett. I think
that's I think whoever, And that's why maybe when you've
got three at the same position, maybe that's sort of
what the back and forth is. And one of the
things that was mentioned, and I think it Ian Rappaford
of NFL Network is that maybe part of the delay,
(16:04):
specifically with the t J Watt deal is the fact
that nobody knows for sure the exact numbers behind Miles
Garrett's deal, Like they know that the year per the
dollar amount per year, maybe some of the guarantees, but
they're not maybe totally sure how some of those guarantees
are split up and ration that it was it was
something along those lines, and so maybe that's the delay.
(16:26):
But like we talked about yesterday, you know, Brooke Pryor,
who covers the Steelers for ESPN, saying that, well, you
know the Steelers, you know, weren't they were kind of
surprised that TJ. Watt would want to reset the market. Well,
why would you be surprised. He's he's had a better
career than Miles Garrett. That shouldn't be a surprise.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Micah Parsons, No checkers and no, no, no, no checkered flag.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Yes, he's never he's never assaulted. He's never assaulted a
man with his own helmet.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
That's happened. We didn't have to go that far. But
there there are no real which is at all, no
checkers flows on either one of those guys.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I think he drives safe, which which is you know,
which helps as well too. I just like the Michael
Parsons stuff. Yeah, Dak Prescott, I get the debate. I
can get the debate. I never thought that Dak Prescott
was going to play anywhere other than Dallas. They were
never going to let him out of the building. I
get the debate. Ceedee Lamb, I could kind of understand
the debate. Zeke Elliott I could kind of understand the debate.
(17:29):
There is no debate with Michaeh Parsons at all, whatsoever.
He should reset the market. He's in his prime, He's
produced every single year, and Jerry Jones does not care
about the fact that it may cost him a little
bit more. It's the fashionably late tax. I'm willing to
pay it because we're going to be in the story
(17:49):
and we're going to be the center of the story
throughout the course of training camp leading up to the season.
Whether it gets done right before the year or during
training camp, this deal is getting done. Man. There's no
nothing about TJ.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Watt.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
I think I'll pose a question to you, do you
believe there's more of a chance that the TJ. Watt
negotiations go sideways or Micah Parsons negotiations go sideways because
I think it's TJ.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Watt I got. I have to say there's more pressure
on Pittsburgh in this scenario than Dallas because there is
no there's no reasoning to exercise as it applies to Dallas.
If you were to lose TJ. Watt based off of
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not getting a contract done, I believe that has way
more impact than out of the two because I don't
see there being any circumstance any way that Dallas doesn't
do the deal with Michael Parsons. There are no real
(19:10):
MICA's not come out and made it a thing. Dallas
hasn't really come out and made it a thing. So
the fact that there hasn't been very much conversation about
it at all, I mean, there was that one moment
where could it get combustible where you talk about I
don't even know his agent. I haven't talked to his agent.
(19:31):
Maybe that was the moment that was the crossroad where
it could have happened and it could have gained momentum
to be a conversation, but it didn't happen. Now, but
there's so much going on in Pittsburgh right now. There's
so many question marks with Pittsburgh and the way the
quarterback situation has been. It's like Days of our Lives.
It's like you tune in for your stories, like, what
(19:54):
are you doing now? Dad's watching the stories? What's the stories?
Days of the Stealers Live? Like what it's going like?
The from from Fields to Wilson to now Rogers, George Pickens,
the Pickens Like it's just it's just been a constant
(20:17):
no no time for rest, no time for comfort or
feeling really good about what's going on. And it's tolerable
because the team still is good and the team still wins.
If you get rid of or if you lose out
on having one of these singular major elements assets, that
(20:42):
is the reason why you're still able to win in
spite of and TJ. Watt. The implications of that, I mean,
I think it's large enough to lose your job. I
think the implications of something going wrong with the TJ.
Watt situation and what could follow after after that in
terms of the season would be large enough for somebody
(21:05):
to lose their job.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
It does, and that's why I pose the question because
I don't I don't think Mike will get his deal done.
No concerns there but I'm with you. It does feel
something feels a little off about the T. J. Watt
Steelers stuff. And maybe it's because it's the second time,
you know, he's he's looking to get paid.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Ben Roethlisberger was on his podcast and you know said, listen,
last time he was looking to get a contract, he
held in. This time he's holding out, he goes. So
there's a clear difference in his approach towards wanting to
get a deal done. I think, you know, if I'm
a betting man, I bet that they do get a
deal done with TJ. Watt. But man, it wouldn't It
wouldn't surprise me if if Pittsburgh was like, look, this
(21:49):
is getting too steep for us. If we can get
back enough draft capital and go in another direction, maybe
we'll go there.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
But this is going to a little bit pray. It
would be one of the biggest moves in Steeler history,
and it would most likely be one of the biggest
mistakes in Pittsburgh Steeler history. They gotta pay him. You
(22:20):
cannot afford to not pay the man what he has
established and earned as a Pittsburgh Steeler, which is the
right to be compensated fairly and kept on the team.
You do not have a replacement of the value that TJ.
(22:42):
Watt brings to your team as the position that he
plays or a personality that represents that team. You don't
have a replacement, So you do not you do not
allow for that to happen. You do not allow to
Watt to not be a part of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
(23:03):
So it shouldn't be a big deal. But if it
were to turn into a big deal, then now all
that does is make things even more weirder in terms
of how you're viewing. Where is this Pittsburgh team at
this Is that turning into something where that's this is
not the Pittsburgh way. It's not the Pittsburgh way. And
(23:26):
that's going to become a major conversation that ensues, and
how do you handle that. It's to be interesting.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
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Speaker 3 (24:01):
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That'll be yours here about fifteen minutes from now here
on FSR, SO, we were talking about the TJ. Watt
Micah Parsons potential paydays whenever that they decide to get
that done, if they get it done. Leonora Sellers, who's
one of the more exciting quarterbacks in college football, plays
for the South Carolina game Cocks. Him and his father
(24:46):
did an interview recently with Bruce Feldman of Fox and
of The Athletic, and Seller's father said that Sellers turned
down he received a two year, eight million dollar nil
off from an unidentified school to try and tempt the
quarterback into transferring to from the game Cocks. And so
(25:07):
there's some speculator, well why didn't he make the move?
And Leonora Seller said the following, I've been playing football
all of my life for free. I've built relationships here,
my family's here, my brother's here. There's no reason for
me to go someplace else and start over. Do you
buy the number based on your knowledge of how the
recruiting process goes that schools are out there throwing around
(25:31):
two years eight million dollars for Leonora Sellers.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
An, you know the thing about nil right now, Jonas,
is that no one knows.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
What to believe.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
No one knows. I don't care how much of an
expert people think they are or people they know. Unless
you are directly dealing with the person who is doing
this these deals and making this money, no one knows.
But what's going to happen is with this new judgment
(26:05):
coming you know, already happening, they're now going to have
to kind of itemize and show very clearly what it
is that they're doing to make the money that they're
being paid. And if they're not doing it, that's going
to be a voilation and whatever it may be. And
(26:25):
also I believe if I read some of the reports
you know, accurately, that there's a committee that's going to
decide if what the person is doing and what they're
getting paid even matches and have the right to approve
it or reject it. So as we're moving forward, I
(26:48):
think there's going to be more. I don't know if
the information that is being you know, circulated to the
body that's going to decide if you're if it's legitimate
that you're doing this and you're getting paid X to
do this. I don't know if those get you know,
(27:11):
may made public knowledge. But I do think where we're
at right now as it applies to that article right now,
I would not be surprised if that were the offer
on the table to get them. You gotta pay to
get kids today. You got to pay to get them.
(27:31):
And whether people are okay with it or not, that's
just where that's just where things are, and you got it.
You gotta pay to play man, And how much that
is I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
I I just it's hard to know what to believe.
And I go back to my thought on this when
NIL started getting introduced and they started opening up the
floodgates on all this. It's almost as if they they
didn't think long term about all the other things that
come attached to this, whether it's the fake agents that
(28:06):
are at the negotiating deals, whether it's you know, the
transfer portal, this that you know, like all of these
other things that came to taxes, all of these other
things they came along with it. They were just like, no, no,
athletes deserve to be paid players agreed, But there's there's
stuff that you need to consider when it comes to
doing that. It's not just a you know, a black
(28:27):
and white topic of hey, pay the athletes and then
we move on. No, there's all these other things that
have come up, and it's almost like they took care
of the initial which was the easy part, and now
they're having to like, yeah, but we've got to like
tighten the screws on this, and we've got to tighten
this up here, and we've got to make the move here.
And you've got and we've talked about this several times before.
(28:50):
You've got athletes who are you know, walking away to
go take another deal somewhere else after agreeing to a
deal with one school you've got, you know, certain schools,
you know, maybe promising one athlete this and another athlete.
Just like the whole thing is the wild West when
it comes to getting this stuff figured out. And so
(29:11):
when you hear Leonora Sellers and his dad talk about,
you know, reportedly there being a two year, eight million
dollar offer on the table, I mean probably, But haven't
we heard stories about schools that haven't paid, that have
promised always that too, like that have promised money and
then haven't paid their portion of them. Like it's just
(29:32):
the whole thing's bizarre.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Man, you have to I guess the way I'm saying,
I guess well. I mean, I have a son in college.
You you're you. You sign a deal with your collective,
Like this is the way I understand. It could be
different at different schools. I'm not sure. But you sign
a deal with your collective, and within your collective it
(29:56):
has how much you will make as a stipend based
upon what it is that you're doing within the contract,
meaning you have x amount of appearances that you have
to make. So the collective says, okay, we're taking kids
to go do this like we just did the Carly
(30:19):
Short Foundation you know scholarship, you know deal for Brandon
Short and there were a few players there that counts
towards their appearances. Right, you're logging an appearance, meaning you're
justifying the contract that you've signed. You're satisfying the deliverables
(30:42):
in your contract. Now, say, for instance, you have that appearance,
you're scheduled to go make that appearance. They're able to
leverage your name coming to the appearance and you don't
show up, but you still get paid for the appearance
within your stipend. And but you haven't satisfied what your
(31:04):
your are. You know what what what your deliverables are.
They're in where to me, I believe the potential of
the problems are going to take place or may be
taking place. Jonas. So while we're saying, okay, the kid
has eight million dollars on the table, what does he
have to do for that eight million dollars, Because it's
(31:25):
just not it's not just playing football. It's going to
be other things that he's going to have to be
committed to doing in order to make that money. So
what is that and is he going to do it?
You get there some of these people complaining that they're
not getting their money. Are you doing what what it
is you're being asked to do, because in some cases,
(31:47):
what I'm hearing is they're not. And so if you're
not and they can't justify why they're giving you this money,
some of it you're not going to get paid because
you haven't fulfilled. Like say, it's a major sponsor. It's
a major sponsor that's a part of a major event
for the university. Your name is on there, you are
(32:09):
a main attraction to doing it, and you don't do it.
That's a problem, right, And now it's like, all right, well,
we're not going to pay you for an appearance you
didn't make. And now the sponsor has to deal with it,
the university has to deal with it. You know, you
don't know if this turns into losing a sponsor over
(32:31):
not having the cooperation and the participation of the athlete
that was involved. There's just a lot to it, man,
there's a lot to it. But this is a new time,
it's a new place, and a lot of these things
are now having to be established marketplace, market value, you know,
all these different things are having to be you know,
(32:52):
kind of defined for the first time.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
I mean, can't we just go back to the good
old days where there was a duffle bag full of
cash on your door step.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
You know, now that we're here, when'd you say, a
lot of people will be like dang. It was hard
and it was.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Stressful for men, it was easier.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Seems easier. I mean, would I.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Mean a duffle bag full of cash? You're not reporting
that to pay taxes, are you?
Speaker 1 (33:23):
No? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:24):
So I just felt like it was a lot easier, man.
Blue Chips was really ahead of its time.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Man.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
They tried to put everybody up on game on how
it should have been done.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
It's unfortunate, man, they put that team together.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
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Speaker 1 (34:55):
Let's make hiss to and now would would you rather
your random? Topics? Sports or otherwise? All right?
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Lead to lab? What do we got, oh man? So
many to choose from?
Speaker 1 (35:08):
My kid?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Decide? How about this?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Oh God? Would you never?
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Would you rather never watch another football game again, or
have to watch every w NBA game.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
What do you mean, watch every w n B A game?
Speaker 4 (35:23):
You have to watch w NBA games every single night,
or you have to never watch football again?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Oh boy, I'd rather just not watch football. Geez, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Okay, Now how.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
Many I just wouldn't want to do it?
Speaker 3 (35:39):
How many w NBA games are we talking?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Like?
Speaker 3 (35:43):
At least one a night? At least one to night.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
If it's just one, I guess do you have to
watch it from like that? Do they log your eyes? Like?
Do you have to watch it from start to finish?
Speaker 3 (35:55):
It's like an iPad? Or you watch Are you watching film?
Because we're tracking you on the iPad?
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Okay, if you keep it on all day long, you
could track it throughout the day as long as it's
on the TV and you put in a full game,
but you got out the day.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
You gotta watch at least one game a day collective.
That's fine.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
I'll take that because I can.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Also I can also bet on it.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
You also have multiple TVs and multiple ways to watch,
so yeah, that's fine. I could. I could. I could
live with that, I volume long because I can casually
look at it when I want to and not look
at it or whatever.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
That'd be fine just in the background. Yeah, that'd be fine.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
To save your paintings that I don't look.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
At, by the way, I got it. I got kids,
I don't look at.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
You know what I mean? Dig it? To save your job?
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Would you rather have to tackle Derrick Henry or guard
Shay Gildas Alexander one on one?
Speaker 1 (36:52):
I would do both if I if I could, you
know what I mean, If I could, I do both
without even worrying about if I'd lose my job or
keep my job. I would love to have the opportunity
to hit Derrick Henry. That would be that would be wonderful.
I mean, you know, I never met a man I
couldn't take down and s g A. I would love
(37:13):
to guard him. I would love to guard him because
I would hack the hell out of it.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
And and you know he's going to really sell the
foul to make you look dominant, because that's what he does.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
He could sell the foul. I don't care. I'm going
to hack him bad. I'm going to get like four
out of well you get six fouls in the league. Yeah,
I'm gonna get four out of the six fouls on
one plate on one play.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah, I'll go, I'll go as I'll go Sga as
well too. I'm not. I don't want to tackle Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
I don't want to get turned into a Pez dispenser
because Derrick Henry's got a red ass about something some
take I had about the Titans years ago. I don't
want to deal that.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
I would love to hit him. I love to feel that.
I love to feel that big name players contact.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Big name players. You might be on the move this offseason.
Would you rather get Jannie or KD? Est honest, I
love KD to death. It's not because I wouldn't want KD.
But I just feel like, you know, he's getting up there.
It's like more is it?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Is it safe to say you feel like with a
Yannis his better days may still be ahead of him,
while Kd's better days are what we say most certainly
behind him.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Like, yeah, but I don't know that Jannie is. I
think he's past and he's still a great player, but his.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Best days are behind him too.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Yeah, I think so, Dan.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
I don't think so, But I'm not gonna go with
that one and if so, I'm going to I'd be
more I would be more willing to find out that
Giannie's better days are behind them rather than trying to
That's fair, know that that that Kd's probably are.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
That's fair. What a weird career Katie's had, though, if
you think about it and talk about like an all
time great player who just I just want to rent.
I don't really want to one anywhere. I just want
to with.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
That, you know, So it depends on what your thoughts are.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Anyway, guys anymore inspired by the local news, would you
rather lose an eye or one of the family jewels?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Oh, it's family jewels because you still can produce with
that one that I've rather have both my eyes to
be able to see God.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah, but only have a one eye would make watching
the WSL.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
I got all my kids, I got, I got all
the kids I want. You could tag both of them,
to be honest,
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