June 19, 2025 • 39 mins
Shedeur Sanders gets busted speeding, but don’t make a big deal out of it. Baltimore takes in another talented vet with Jaire Alexander. Plus, Producer Lee defends HIS Green Bay Packers.
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I'm sure they can use the context clues. Oh boy.
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I would like to give a shout out here. There
were some people that were critical of the decision by
Miles Garrett earlier this offseason to not participate with the
team at OTAs after signing that big contract and instead
going to Japan to be with his girlfriend. At the time,
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some people were critical of it. They did not think
that that was showing true leadership. I think that Miles
Garrett is owed an apology. I think there should be
an apology that comes immediately to Miles Garrett from people
that were critical of him, because clearly he is showing leadership.
Since should Or Sanders just got popped for going forty
one miles an hour over the speed limit there in Ohio,
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so clearly the influence of Miles you have to do
well because Miles Garrett had an issue with that. You know,
he's had an issue with speeding, and there's been a
couple of things that have popped up. Clearly he was
able to provide true leadership there in the sense that
shoud Or Sanders is driving around Ohio early Tuesday morning
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and the guy's driving one on one in sixty. I mean,
what are we doing here? You know what?
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Those who have not speed speeded be the first one
to cast the stone.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I'm just.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
It's not sped speed it is it speeded?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I would think it was be sped.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, I thought it sped those who have not sped.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Okay, you could be right, yeah, whatever could be right clean.
I like speed it better.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, No I don't.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
We don't have to clean it up.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
All right, this talk radio, we talk every day on
this bad Boy.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
We're changing it. I'm change it. Yeah. All right.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
So, so Miles Garrett was caught speeded it last year
and I think maybe the year before. Lee, can you
can you double check how many times Miles Garrett's been
popped for speeded it in.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I'm seen at least twice with a high of one
to twenty one hundred miles per hour and sixty five
and twenty twenty also in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, that's true leadership. And for those of you that
are trying to be critical Miles Garrett again, you know
the guy in apology, all right, shod Or Sanders hasn't
even taken a real snap with the team yet and
he's already going forty one miles an hour in over
the sixty speed limit.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
There. I mean I feel like it is a word too.
By the way, it is a word. I might have
used it improperly, but it is a word. It's proper grammar.
It's just so we're clear.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Now, can we talk about the bigger issue here, which
is what the fact that you said, Durgan.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
It's not it's not Miles.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Garrett being a proper example of how to drive over
the speed limit. It's not him not being there for
mini camp. It's does this genuinely call for concern with
Shador Sanders?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
You said he should you said he should be cut
during the break? Did you not? Did you not know?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I don't know why you jumping out there like that.
I I mean, because people take things and they run
with it. And then there's the quote of the day.
So when you're dact that, please take it back.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Take that one out. Please.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Did I say anything to you about anything like that
during the break? Jonas knocks, No, sir, you did not. Okay,
thank thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
So do not run with the fact that Jonas said
LeVar Arrington said during the break like doing or our
real conversations, that I said he should be cut, because
I did not. In fact, my question becomes the people
that are going to cut him. I wonder, have they
ever sped above the speed limit before? You know, have
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they ever gone close to one hundred miles per hour
and a sixty mile per hour zone? Like when you
hear it and it's somebody else, you know, you have
an ability to be able to say, oh, my gosh,
you mean it was sixty miles per hour and they
were going one hundred.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
You know, Like, let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
The way these cars are made these days, it's not
hard to hit one hundred miles per per hour the
way it feels. I'm just telling you, it's not hard
the time. It doesn't feel like you're out one hundred
miles per hour.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
The first time I was ever in a Tesla, the
guy it was in an Uber and the guy got
on the freeway and I remember he was on the
freeway on ramp and he was literally in traffic in
a second and a half, Like like, Tesla's are unbelievable, wick.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
So and it's not, you know, and most people in
California are driving Tesla's, So this isn't a rich people problem.
Don't make this like this is like, oh, this entitled
kid he yeah. For some of us, like like me, Jonas,
we drive trucks. They can't even go past forty miles
per hour. Past okay, we can't even go past forty
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miles per hour. So so forget forget your door Sanders. Hey, Like,
this isn't about talking about him being cut bro. All
this is is a young man driving his car and
got pulled over for speeding.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
It's as simple as that he.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Was driving a truck. It was not a cyber truck Tesla,
but he was. I believe it was a Dodge if
if my memory serves me correct. So he's driving a
Dodge truck and he got a Listen, the new any
new car can get you to where you want to
go a lot faster than the old ones could. Now
you took a little bit of a pot shot at
me there, Uh, I completely disrespectful. I'm sorry, but also accurate.
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If my truck went over one hundred miles an hour,
it would literally disappear, like it would time warp back
to two thousand and six when it was made and go,
let's start over again. This is a bad idea, This
is not this.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Is you believe in magic and nope, you do God
have a memory start having memories of the truck when
it was born.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
God would literally God would literally make wave a magic
wand over my truck and go hoada, and it's back
to two thousand. There's no shot by truck to get
to one.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
On one, so you skipping around the truck giving it hugs.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
H But one of the one of the details that
did come out in this was that apparently shud Or
sanders he can pay the two hundred and fifty dollars
fine two dollars, okay, or he could fight it in court.
Now from personal experience, I tried to fight a speeding
ticket in court. I showed up to court because it
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was way advanced, way after the ticket, and I showed
up in court, think and there's no way this CoP's
gonna be the cops going to show up. Before before
anything started, guy taps me on the shoulder and says
he just wanted to show you the proof of your speeding.
And I literally got up and left a waste of time.
There's no chance I'll go to driving school or whatever
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I gotta do to make sure I don't have a
point on my insurance record. But there's no chance in hell,
I'm gonna win this based on the fact that that
guy showed up, and I'd imagine this guy will show
up to it sure.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Saying well, it doesn't matter if he fights it or
if he doesn't. His personal business, how it impacts his
insurance or anything like that is a whole different conversation
that isn't worth broaching. But in terms of how this
this is a story, because we all know that the
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elephant in the room is he is indeed the last
string quarterback on a four quarterback five quarterbacks on the
roster team. That's what made lay, That's what makes this
a conversation. Is this egregious enough if people want to
be honest about why this is a topic? The topic
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of concern here is is this bad enough for Shador
Sanders to actually caused himself a job? And I would say,
if you lean on the side of quarterbacks have a
different level of accountability, a different level of responsibility and
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how they conduct themselves and how they do things than
other players, it could be perceived as a judgment called
that this young man isn't ready to be a leader,
and those you open yourself up for that type of
scrutiny and that type of criticism when you do things
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that you know don't pan out the way that you like.
He probably wasn't even thinking nothing of it. He's driving,
He's probably either on his bluetoothe his hands free device,
talking on the phone. He's maybe listening to his music.
Cats be turning up while they be driving, listening to
the music, whatever it may be. Right, he probably wasn't
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paying no attention to the fact that he was speeding,
and that very well could be the conversation that he
has with the coaching staff. But I think that's what
the transition to me goes to, is what was the
conversation between Shador Sanders and the coaches that he has
to talk to, Because ultimately, the only reason why this
is a story is because of how much how much
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attention there has been paid to what do you do
with Shador Sands?
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah? Right, this does this dictate? God? Yeah, I'm just
like I would.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I would imagine and Jordan Addison waking up behind the
wheel outside of lax problem, that's a problem, Okay, Like
that's a little bit of an issue. We need to
have a discussion about that. And then him going to
social media afterwards and posting a bottle of booze, like
probably not you know that that that feels like that's
(11:29):
a bit reckless. This could be a guy and that
did to your point, didn't even realize he was speeding.
But it also lends to the actual older hey knew
he was speeding?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Well, he probably knew he was speeding. But pretty much,
hey man, pretty much.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Everybody speed when when you when you're driving on a highway,
which I don't even know what if he was on
a highway, I'm assuming sixty miles per hour he was
on some.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Type of a highway.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Bruh, everybody is generally driving above the speed limit, Like,
make no mistake about that. Now is forty miles per
hour over to speed limit? Egregious? Yes it is, There's
no doubt about it. You're going fast. He knew he
was going fast? Question it like, there's so many different
determining factors. Was he keeping up with traffic? Were there other.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Cars going as fast as he was?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
You know?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
What was the scenario? Was he was he weaving? Was
this reckless driving? Was he weaving in and out of traffic?
I think if it's put in the proper context, then
it allows for you to make a more accurate judgment
of how good or how bad the offense was. But
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again it comes down to the conversations he's going to
have with his coaching stat because I don't. Ultimately, the
question now becomes did he do something that makes it
easier for Cleveland to to, you know, move on from him?
And you know, I saw, once again here we go.
I'm a reference because I do listen to the other shows.
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I saw I saw a comment from the one Rob
Parker where he's basically saying they need to release him,
they need to cut him right now. Based off of
that Rob Robinson, I mean, come on, Rob, you call
him for this man's job because he was he was speeding, like,
come on, Rob.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I saw.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I saw Rob get a parking ticket at KNBC when
we were there, which he shouldn't have gotten, and he
was walking through the parking lot like like Denzel Washington
and training day, let me take somebody out. He looked
like the guy in the wire walking through the parking
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lot trying to take somebody out because you got a
parking ticket on accident. If anybody should not be talking
about traffic violations and how this should unpacked your career.
It's Rob Parker. I saw it with my own two
eyes after we did a TV show, Bucky.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I would love.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
There's no way he was able to keep a straight
face with that take. There's no way, no finance.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I just I just think that there's there's going to
be now he did himself no favors by getting pulled over.
But again, I think when you're in your own space,
you're driving, you're doing what you're doing your daily task.
I mean we're being honest here, man, Like the dude
was driving. If he was speeding, he was speeding, he
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got the ticket, pay the fine or challenge it whatever.
I think what makes it complicated is if he were intoxicated,
if he were under the influence, like you mentioned earlier,
that now makes it a conversation, Jonas. But him speeding,
if he was racing, if it came out that he
was street racing somebody, that's a problem. But there does
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it seemed to be from the reports that I've seen,
it's just as simple. He was speeding, he got pulled over,
he got a ticket. Keep it moving, man, and you know,
I mean, let's keep it moving.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
But this also does point out the fact that this
is a story because it's Shadhor Sanders and this is
and people aren't you know, probably are gonna maybe disagree
with this, But there is something to being loud when
you're not the starter. It's not a great place to
be if.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Kess not loud. He just got he got pulled over.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
But it's loud because first of all, the time of year. Okay,
the NBA Finals have gotten less interesting as the series
has gone on, especially the past couple of days, and
the time of year, the name that goes along with it,
and the fact that if this was Dylan Gabriel, probably
not a big story. If this was Kenny Pickett, probably
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not a big story. If it was Joe Flacco, probably
not a big story. He's the loudest and most talked
about name in that room, and so because of it,
he's gonna get talked about at nauseum because it's Shadoor
Sanders and the quote unquote brand and ore that he
brings with him. The guy sped a little bit, he
got popped. He wasn't drinking and driving. This wasn't a
(16:15):
DUI situation. He didn't have some story made up. Remember,
Jordan Addison also had a story made up to where
he was speeding because he was trying to get his
dog to the vet. I got news for you. If
a CoP's behind me and I'm trying to get my
dog to the vet, I'm throwing that thing out the window. Okay, Sorry, Well,
I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
I got news for you.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
If my dog is dying and I can save them
and I'm rushing them to the to the pet emergency room,
that cop is going to have to meet me there
and he can arrest me at the place where I'm
taking my dog.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I'm blaming the dog.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I'm not blaming I'm I'm listen, and it is what
it is. It is what it is, mister Sticks.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Was if mister Sticks needed me to get him to
the emergency room, you're gonna have to follow me to the.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Emergency and in fact, you know what I would do.
I would actually put the dog in the driver's seat
and I had to hop in the passenger seat so
you could take full You're so stupid, and I'll just
I'll deal with the repercussions when I get home. Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Can I put a bow on this? Let me put
a bow on this. From my perspective of Shador Sanders.
There's there's there's a few ways to look at it.
The first way is is this is this offense an
out for the Cleveland Browns. Do they leverage this as
here's our golden, golden ticket hand delivered on a platter
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to us to be able to part ways with Shador Sanders.
That's that's that's option number one. Option number two is
you show Shador Sanders that you believe in him, and
you know, mistakes are made. You know, you got a ticket,
pay your ticket, you know, try not to get speeding tickets,
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Shador like, slow it down, you know, don't do anything
that's going to bring this type of attention on to you, Uh,
getting to get in the locker room, getting the training room,
getting a meeting room, whatever, UH see you at practice?
Is it is it just as simple as you made
a mistake moving on? Or is this is this the
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opportunity for them to say, yep, this is something that
we can leverage without getting cause it would take something
crazy for them to get out from under cutting Shadoor Sanders.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
What is your reasoning for doing it? And this could
be the possible, you know, way that they can leverage
something to let them go.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
You want to know why it's not an out for
the Browns to get away from Shore Sanders, because the
Browns already had an out to get away from Shore Sanders.
It was called the first four rounds of the draft.
Dang they want it in.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Hey, they allowed too many highlights to come out. Bro
they could not They could not leverage his draft.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
They could not leverage his draft pick for any further
then what they were going to be able to do
when they first drafted them. You know, after all of
the the OTA highlights that came out and continuous coverage
of Shador Sanders, they're not going to be able to
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let him go based upon where he was drafted because
there's too much justification that he can play at that
level from the highlights that have.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Been released repeatedly of what he's doing in practices.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Do you think if he shows up to court to
fight the ticket, that mel Kiper will also show up
for support.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Do you think that will tell the judge that this
is just a man that there's not enough scrutiny on
in turn, or there's too much scrutiny on them, and
you guys don't know how quarterback drive trucks, and I
don't know, man.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Mel Kiper will blame the traffic people and say, well,
you know, the speed limit sign wasn't visible enough for
so that's why you should not have to pay this
two fifty maybel just really unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It's just really truly unfortunate that you got to take
something as trivial as getting pulled over for speeding. And again,
the only reason why I'm saying it because I'm not
saying break the law.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
I mean, hell, I was speeding this morning. You know
I was speeding.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
You know, I think I was doing fifty and a
thirty five this morning, Like sorry, I was just driving.
You know, I was driving my son's car. It's a
it's a muscle car. It's one of them chargers or whatever.
Not not the charger, what's the bigger body ones. Not
not the charger, but the other one.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
SRTs bro Come on anyway, I was driving his car
and it's fast, it's a strong car. So we're driving.
I'm driving. I'm not purposely or being dismissive of the
speed limit. I'm just driving. So if there's nothing connected
to him speeding, it's just the speeding ticket. Moving on,
(20:58):
there's no reason to have no hot take Rob on
saying this man needs to be cut immediately because he
got cited for speeding ticket.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Like, get out of here with that og. Y'all had notice.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I'm taking pop shots by Rob Parker until I get
it out of my system that I'm with you people,
some of these people at Fox Sports Radio, Like I
know I was one of these people. It was my
quote directly, So I'm going that og yeah a few
more times until i get it all out because I'm petty.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
And by the way, Lee, why don't you cut this
up and send it over to Robert Guerra and let
him let Rob get a whiff of this.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
I'm petty. By the way.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
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We are going to have an award that we'll hand
out here coming up about fifteen minutes from now here
on FSR. The Baltimore Ravens may have done it again.
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They have signed Jayir Alexander, formerly of the Green Bay Packers,
to a one year deal worth up to six million
dollars if he stays healthy. This is a nice pickup
for Baltimore. They've already got a pretty solid secondary intact,
so this is another piece for the Ravens. The head
coach of the Ravens, John Harborough, spoke about the signing yesterday.
Speaker 8 (24:02):
I'm just really excited about a head chance to you know,
sit down with him today, which was an awesome, awesome,
awesome time, and he's he's excited to be here. We're
excited to have him. He had been kind of behind
the scenes in the works a little bit and and
I know we wanted to be here and we wanted him.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Here, you know.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
So for it to work out the way it did
made Lamar happy, you know, I think made everybody happy.
It's just an opportunity to become a better team in
that sense today, So we're really excited about it.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
So Lamar Jackson and JayR Alexander were teammates at Louisville,
so they have a previous relationship. So Lamar kind of
jokingly throughout he you know, go out and sign him.
And then the next day they followed up by signing
Jay Alexander. Again, he's a piece for the secondaries. Maybe
not the player he once was considering the injuries, but
if he could stay healthy, another solid pick up for Baltimore.
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But I don't know why it is, and maybe it's
just their track record of making wise personnel decisions, not
all of them. Okay, there's been some misses, but for
the most part, if Baltimore makes a move or signs
a player on a prove it deal or something along
those lines, I tend to trust the Baltimore front office
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and their decision making about as much as I do
anybody in the NFL. It just seems like an organization
where if you're trying to build back or come back
from injury or anything else and revitalize your career, that's
a place in an organization you'd want to do it with.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
It seems like it seems like it, And especially on
the defensive side of the ball. You know, it's not
it's not that you know, Jaiere isn't capable of being
you know, an all pro, a Pro Bowl level level guy.
Just didn't work out, you know, that way where he
was currently at, well formerly at. I just think a
(25:56):
lot of this, you know, sometimes it's probably placed proper
time he gets a new new beginning. I saw the
video where they you know, saw each other for the
first time in the meeting room, and how excited they
were to see one another. I mean, this could be
the move that that makes the most sense for him
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to have a bump in positivity for his career. You know,
you just never know, though, I mean, you know, he
could still be a marginal guy, just above marginal guy,
a serviceable guy for them. It's just a matter of
how he fits into to the scheme. But most people
that go to Baltimore, especially you know, well I wouldn't
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say especially any particular position, but you know, guys go
there as cornerbacks, it seems like they have productive years.
They go there as safeties, they seem to have productive years.
Linebackers the same, and defensive lineman the same. It seems
like when you go to the Ravens on defense you
tend to have have successful years. Then on the offensive
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side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
To that point, I just there's something about and maybe
it's the influence of because Ozzie Newsom is still there
and still you can feel his presence.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
In the building.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
And so you've got that, and you've got Eric DaCosta
who basically took over for Ozzie Newsom, and even Ozzie
knewso on his way out the door. His you know,
one final first round pick was Lamar Jackson. It's like, oh,
by the way, I'm away out the door. Here's a
guy who's a future Hall of Famer potentially, and it
just it seems like what they touch, I don't want
(27:37):
to say turns to gold, but at least puts them
in a position to where that's a guy who could
have success. And John Harbaugh mentioned it, you know, this
is a place that he wanted to be. There was
probably other opportunities for him out there. There's probably other
opportunities to where maybe he gets more playing time, maybe
he gets more reps because it is a pretty loaded secondary.
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But he probably recognized that and said, man, if I
got to do it on a one year proven deal,
there's no better place to do it than in Baltimore,
where seemingly they're able to find guys and put them
in a position to succeed and I would imagine that's
probably an opinion around the NFL as well too, that
if you're a player out there that's that's not a
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that's a pretty nice landing if you're in a spot
to where you're trying to get back to where you
once or previously were and trying to build back your
reputation in the league. Seems seems like a good, good
foundation for a play.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
I think it's a solid take. He's heading into his
what eighth year, his eighth season. I believe.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
His stat line isn't anything to to gock over, but
he probably fits into the scenario as a second a
second defensive back, you know, coming in a rotation guy,
maybe a nickel nickel dime pen coverage guy that comes
in as as an extra dB. And there's possibly the
(29:07):
opportunity that could come about where he's able to start.
But I think it's a great situation because you know,
now he gets away from being you know, the draft pick. Right,
It's not like, all right, he's the draft pick. This
isn't good enough, and you know, whatever it may be
that he had to deal with in his experience while
(29:30):
he was in Green Bay, but it's a kick. I
think it is a great opportunity for him.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
It's a kick the tires type deal. Okay, it's one
year's one year at a total max out at six
million dollars. Why not see if he's got something left.
If he doesn't, then you can move on. But if
he does, all of a sudden, it's another piece for
your secondary. It's like when they went out and signed
Derrick Henry. The second the move happened and they signed
Derrick Henry, it's like, Oh, that makes way too much sense.
(29:58):
That's just gonna work. You just you I knew that
that fit was going to work with Derrick Henry, and
you saw what it did last year. So you know,
Baltimore adds another piece, and I would say this, you know,
I thought it was pretty disrespectful Lee's attitude towards the
JayR Alexander signing. Because Lee is a packer. Some would
call him a ball washer. I would not, but some
(30:18):
would call him that. And so Lee sort of scoffed
at the idea of JayR Alexander based on his two
previous injury riddled years, and.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
That would have been the key. Yeah, that's been the
key of it.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Three in the last four you know, yeah, can't stay healthy.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
He's a pro bowler in twenty twenty two though.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
And twenty twenty second team, second team All Pro.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Twice, he's been a Pro bowler, he's been an All Pro.
And again that's the issue is have the injuries derailed
his ability to be able to make big plays?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Now?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
What sort of injuries were we to be that legit guy?
Which was like what an injury wise? The concerning injury
issue for you as you went to Green Bay last
year and spent time at a rubber ducky klom machine
instead of showing your support for JR. Alexander and his
in his you know, hopeful return to the NFL in
a solid, impactful way. What sort of injuries were we
(31:10):
looking at there?
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Well, it's it's tough to keep track because I think
he's had a number of them including growing back, shoulder,
knee injuries.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I think it was a knee injury, his PC that
he's been dealing with lately. Yeah, the PCL.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
It was his PCL and he had to get a
scope on it.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
You know, it's not the name.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
It's not an easy that's it's a simple procedure these days,
but it's not the easiest, the easiest of injuries to
come back.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Isn't isn't PCL a TV brand.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Or that T set's TCL?
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Yeah huh but uh but you know, everyone in the
coaches and everyone in the front office were reportedly frustrated
with him for like he would come, he would come back,
and then he would leave the game.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
He would play for just a few plays and then
leave and.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
S Green Bay. What do you want to do? Hang out?
Speaker 4 (31:56):
I'm supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Why why can't you stick around? I don't know, open
your eyes? What do you mean another here?
Speaker 5 (32:02):
I mean obviously I'm frustrated because we gave him every opportunity.
We offered him much more money than the Ravens did.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
We.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Hey, I'm an owner, you.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Are not no owner.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I got I gotta share your ass up. You know,
I ain't got no ownership shares in that place. I'm
an owner.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (32:26):
They're owned by the community. So you just think you
could just loosely throw out there, Yeah, I own stock.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
I own stock. You don't.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
It's Lee not we.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Own stock.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
You ain't got no What do you mean do you
actually own stock in the packers?
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I gotta I gotta share.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
I need you to, I need you to show me. Yeah,
I don't believe that. I don't believe that, not one
not for one second. Do you have stock in a
Green Bay Packers?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I think you sold that share for a bottle of booze.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I never owned it.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I think I think it's a guy stocking shelves at
a seven eleven who's got stock of the packers now
because Lee gave it up for a for a for
a bottle of bourbon and a bender.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, I'm gonna give you one more chance to tell
the truth. Do you own stock in the Green Bay Packers?
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Or no?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Of course I do.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I want to see it. I want to see it.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
I want war.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
You can win. I won't put that dope. I want.
I want you to send me the proof in my
email sometime in the near future.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I'll see if I can find it.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Now, please, I want to see where it says that
lead to lap owns.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Oh no, no, they don't. They don't put your name
on it. These things are like, well, come on, Lee.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
This isn't put your name on I haven't.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
No, I haven't seen it because I had no interest
in being an owner of the Packers.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
There's a difference between fan cards and ownerships.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Well, I mean, if you know about the Packers shares,
they're they're purely it's not doesn't mean anything, Yes it does.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
It's an asset.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
If you've purchased stock in the team, you have stock
in the team, and that needs to be in your name.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Lee.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
You don't stock and you don't have.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
It all, then don't put that dowt bet that doll.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Lee.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
You ain't got no stopping that team. Stop captain man.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
I'm just saying we as the Packers, are very frustrated
with I was bummed that he went to the Ravens man.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Okay, well, hold because why because you feel like that's
a because he's actually gonna do well there. Yeah, of course,
because that's what happens.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
If he can stay healthy and if he can return
back to form. I think that's what it.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Let's not let's not bury the lead here, Okay, Lee,
who tends to do that at a time. Actually, you know,
let's we get.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
To pick this up on that leads.
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asking a very important question here. All right, we want
to see that proof of ownership. All right, that's what
we want. I want to see that damn one. We
want to see that damn proof of ownership.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Lead to LAP.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
All right, you claim you are the owner of the
Green Bay Packers, that you are part owner.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I am a part owner.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yes, all right, so let's go ahead and see this. Yeah,
it's you at lambeau Field.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
This is not proof me at the shareholders meeting.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
It's late to LAP if you don't go to the
bathroom and wash your boddy mouth out with some frickin
molde water.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
You got a picture of you putting a it's good
sign up and that what bro? What w t F
is this?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Lee?
Speaker 4 (37:03):
It's a picture of you standing behind the goal post?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Yeah, the shareholders meeting?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Lee, Lorena?
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Lorena?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Is there anything about this that says Lee is a shareholder?
For I don't have the share up.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
I mean, I mean, you got to realize you're talking
to Lorena. She's my gosh, is the most shareholder photo
I've ever seen. You know what, Lee, you could even
photoshop that's big white sign in here that says I
own this team. Yeah, that's that's Lorena, who's the captain
of the LDL, the Lee the Lap Defense League. She
loves defending Lee at all costs. Here, let me for
(37:41):
people that are listening, here's what the picture is. It's
Lee in the back of the end zone at Lambeau Field,
raising his arms up like he's doing a goal post.
Yeah he is. He's not even dressed up. He's he
doesn't even look like an owner. He's got a Packers
T shirt, he's got a sweater wrapped around his waist
(38:02):
to tie it in a knot. And he's wearing the
same jeans he wore when he skinned his knee at
Radio Row, the Super Bowl jeans I wear.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
But Lee, this is not proof of I don't I'm sorry.
I couldn't come up with the sheriff and height now
within the last five minutes.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Okay, then, how did how I want to be in
your email or some type of foul in your phone?
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Lee?
Speaker 3 (38:23):
It's just it's not it's not hand me down. It's
a hand me down gift.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
It's it's a framed piece of paper that says what
it looks like a diplomat. It's like you're a proud
owner of the Green Bay Packer or something like something
along those lines.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
I haven't seen it in ever, in years. I'm looking
for a picture of.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
You haven't seen it in years that you have ownership
stock and steak in the Green Bay pack.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
You and Todd smoked it one night.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
How much exactly do you have? Lee?
Speaker 3 (38:52):
It's a one dude. Do you know how these works?
It's an honorary thing.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
They still know how having ownership steak works. Ye, Lee,
it's been how much how much ownership stock do you have?
Speaker 5 (39:03):
If you remember from our stories years ago, they did
start offering more shares, so it's gone down in percentage
wise because every few years they do a fundraiser.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Where they offer three hundred dollars.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
You get an honorary piece of paper that says you're
a member of the packers, and it really means nothing.
It's an honorary piece of paper. But as you know,
and everyone who's a sports fan knows, you have a
popillary piece of paper. Yes, okay, Lee, that's not ownership.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Dude, I know that, but I'm saying everybody knows the
Packers sports where you can say me.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Yeah, they're dune
Speaker 3 (39:39):
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I would like to give a shout out here. There
were some people that were critical of the decision by
Miles Garrett earlier this offseason to not participate with the
team at OTAs after signing that big contract and instead
going to Japan to be with his girlfriend. At the time,
(01:55):
some people were critical of it. They did not think
that that was showing true leadership. I think that Miles
Garrett is owed an apology. I think there should be
an apology that comes immediately to Miles Garrett from people
that were critical of him, because clearly he is showing leadership.
Since should Or Sanders just got popped for going forty
one miles an hour over the speed limit there in Ohio,
(02:16):
so clearly the influence of Miles you have to do
well because Miles Garrett had an issue with that. You know,
he's had an issue with speeding, and there's been a
couple of things that have popped up. Clearly he was
able to provide true leadership there in the sense that
shoud Or Sanders is driving around Ohio early Tuesday morning
(02:37):
and the guy's driving one on one in sixty. I mean,
what are we doing here? You know what?
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I mean?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Those who have not speed speeded be the first one
to cast the stone.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I'm just.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
It's not sped speed it is it speeded?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I would think it was be sped.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, I thought it sped those who have not sped.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Okay, you could be right, yeah, whatever could be right clean.
I like speed it better.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, No I don't.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
We don't have to clean it up.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
All right, this talk radio, we talk every day on
this bad Boy.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
We're changing it. I'm change it. Yeah. All right.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
So, so Miles Garrett was caught speeded it last year
and I think maybe the year before. Lee, can you
can you double check how many times Miles Garrett's been
popped for speeded it in.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
I'm seen at least twice with a high of one
to twenty one hundred miles per hour and sixty five
and twenty twenty also in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, that's true leadership. And for those of you that
are trying to be critical Miles Garrett again, you know
the guy in apology, all right, shod Or Sanders hasn't
even taken a real snap with the team yet and
he's already going forty one miles an hour in over
the sixty speed limit.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
There. I mean I feel like it is a word too.
By the way, it is a word. I might have
used it improperly, but it is a word. It's proper grammar.
It's just so we're clear.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Now, can we talk about the bigger issue here, which
is what the fact that you said, Durgan.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
It's not it's not Miles.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Garrett being a proper example of how to drive over
the speed limit. It's not him not being there for
mini camp. It's does this genuinely call for concern with
Shador Sanders?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
You said he should you said he should be cut
during the break? Did you not? Did you not know?
Speaker 1 (04:35):
I don't know why you jumping out there like that.
I I mean, because people take things and they run
with it. And then there's the quote of the day.
So when you're dact that, please take it back.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Take that one out. Please.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Did I say anything to you about anything like that
during the break? Jonas knocks, No, sir, you did not. Okay,
thank thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
So do not run with the fact that Jonas said
LeVar Arrington said during the break like doing or our
real conversations, that I said he should be cut, because
I did not. In fact, my question becomes the people
that are going to cut him. I wonder, have they
ever sped above the speed limit before? You know, have
(05:17):
they ever gone close to one hundred miles per hour
and a sixty mile per hour zone? Like when you
hear it and it's somebody else, you know, you have
an ability to be able to say, oh, my gosh,
you mean it was sixty miles per hour and they
were going one hundred.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
You know, Like, let me tell you something.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
The way these cars are made these days, it's not
hard to hit one hundred miles per per hour the
way it feels. I'm just telling you, it's not hard
the time. It doesn't feel like you're out one hundred
miles per hour.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
The first time I was ever in a Tesla, the
guy it was in an Uber and the guy got
on the freeway and I remember he was on the
freeway on ramp and he was literally in traffic in
a second and a half, Like like, Tesla's are unbelievable, wick.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
So and it's not, you know, and most people in
California are driving Tesla's, So this isn't a rich people problem.
Don't make this like this is like, oh, this entitled
kid he yeah. For some of us, like like me, Jonas,
we drive trucks. They can't even go past forty miles
per hour. Past okay, we can't even go past forty
(06:32):
miles per hour. So so forget forget your door Sanders. Hey, Like,
this isn't about talking about him being cut bro. All
this is is a young man driving his car and
got pulled over for speeding.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
It's as simple as that he.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Was driving a truck. It was not a cyber truck Tesla,
but he was. I believe it was a Dodge if
if my memory serves me correct. So he's driving a
Dodge truck and he got a Listen, the new any
new car can get you to where you want to
go a lot faster than the old ones could. Now
you took a little bit of a pot shot at
me there, Uh, I completely disrespectful. I'm sorry, but also accurate.
(07:11):
If my truck went over one hundred miles an hour,
it would literally disappear, like it would time warp back
to two thousand and six when it was made and go,
let's start over again. This is a bad idea, This
is not this.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Is you believe in magic and nope, you do God
have a memory start having memories of the truck when
it was born.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
God would literally God would literally make wave a magic
wand over my truck and go hoada, and it's back
to two thousand. There's no shot by truck to get
to one.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
On one, so you skipping around the truck giving it hugs.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
H But one of the one of the details that
did come out in this was that apparently shud Or
sanders he can pay the two hundred and fifty dollars
fine two dollars, okay, or he could fight it in court.
Now from personal experience, I tried to fight a speeding
ticket in court. I showed up to court because it
(08:11):
was way advanced, way after the ticket, and I showed
up in court, think and there's no way this CoP's
gonna be the cops going to show up. Before before
anything started, guy taps me on the shoulder and says
he just wanted to show you the proof of your speeding.
And I literally got up and left a waste of time.
There's no chance I'll go to driving school or whatever
(08:33):
I gotta do to make sure I don't have a
point on my insurance record. But there's no chance in hell,
I'm gonna win this based on the fact that that
guy showed up, and I'd imagine this guy will show
up to it sure.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Saying well, it doesn't matter if he fights it or
if he doesn't. His personal business, how it impacts his
insurance or anything like that is a whole different conversation
that isn't worth broaching. But in terms of how this
this is a story, because we all know that the
(09:04):
elephant in the room is he is indeed the last
string quarterback on a four quarterback five quarterbacks on the
roster team. That's what made lay, That's what makes this
a conversation. Is this egregious enough if people want to
be honest about why this is a topic? The topic
(09:28):
of concern here is is this bad enough for Shador
Sanders to actually caused himself a job? And I would say,
if you lean on the side of quarterbacks have a
different level of accountability, a different level of responsibility and
(09:51):
how they conduct themselves and how they do things than
other players, it could be perceived as a judgment called
that this young man isn't ready to be a leader,
and those you open yourself up for that type of
scrutiny and that type of criticism when you do things
(10:14):
that you know don't pan out the way that you like.
He probably wasn't even thinking nothing of it. He's driving,
He's probably either on his bluetoothe his hands free device,
talking on the phone. He's maybe listening to his music.
Cats be turning up while they be driving, listening to
the music, whatever it may be. Right, he probably wasn't
(10:34):
paying no attention to the fact that he was speeding,
and that very well could be the conversation that he
has with the coaching staff. But I think that's what
the transition to me goes to, is what was the
conversation between Shador Sanders and the coaches that he has
to talk to, Because ultimately, the only reason why this
is a story is because of how much how much
(10:58):
attention there has been paid to what do you do
with Shador Sands?
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah? Right, this does this dictate? God? Yeah, I'm just
like I would.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
I would imagine and Jordan Addison waking up behind the
wheel outside of lax problem, that's a problem, Okay, Like
that's a little bit of an issue. We need to
have a discussion about that. And then him going to
social media afterwards and posting a bottle of booze, like
probably not you know that that that feels like that's
(11:29):
a bit reckless. This could be a guy and that
did to your point, didn't even realize he was speeding.
But it also lends to the actual older hey knew
he was speeding?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Well, he probably knew he was speeding. But pretty much,
hey man, pretty much.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Everybody speed when when you when you're driving on a highway,
which I don't even know what if he was on
a highway, I'm assuming sixty miles per hour he was
on some.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Type of a highway.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Bruh, everybody is generally driving above the speed limit, Like,
make no mistake about that. Now is forty miles per
hour over to speed limit? Egregious? Yes it is, There's
no doubt about it. You're going fast. He knew he
was going fast? Question it like, there's so many different
determining factors. Was he keeping up with traffic? Were there other.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Cars going as fast as he was?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
You know?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
What was the scenario? Was he was he weaving? Was
this reckless driving? Was he weaving in and out of traffic?
I think if it's put in the proper context, then
it allows for you to make a more accurate judgment
of how good or how bad the offense was. But
(12:46):
again it comes down to the conversations he's going to
have with his coaching stat because I don't. Ultimately, the
question now becomes did he do something that makes it
easier for Cleveland to to, you know, move on from him?
And you know, I saw, once again here we go.
I'm a reference because I do listen to the other shows.
(13:07):
I saw I saw a comment from the one Rob
Parker where he's basically saying they need to release him,
they need to cut him right now. Based off of
that Rob Robinson, I mean, come on, Rob, you call
him for this man's job because he was he was speeding, like,
come on, Rob.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I saw.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
I saw Rob get a parking ticket at KNBC when
we were there, which he shouldn't have gotten, and he
was walking through the parking lot like like Denzel Washington
and training day, let me take somebody out. He looked
like the guy in the wire walking through the parking
(13:50):
lot trying to take somebody out because you got a
parking ticket on accident. If anybody should not be talking
about traffic violations and how this should unpacked your career.
It's Rob Parker. I saw it with my own two
eyes after we did a TV show, Bucky.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I would love.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
There's no way he was able to keep a straight
face with that take. There's no way, no finance.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
I just I just think that there's there's going to
be now he did himself no favors by getting pulled over.
But again, I think when you're in your own space,
you're driving, you're doing what you're doing your daily task.
I mean we're being honest here, man, Like the dude
was driving. If he was speeding, he was speeding, he
(14:36):
got the ticket, pay the fine or challenge it whatever.
I think what makes it complicated is if he were intoxicated,
if he were under the influence, like you mentioned earlier,
that now makes it a conversation, Jonas. But him speeding,
if he was racing, if it came out that he
was street racing somebody, that's a problem. But there does
(15:00):
it seemed to be from the reports that I've seen,
it's just as simple. He was speeding, he got pulled over,
he got a ticket. Keep it moving, man, and you know,
I mean, let's keep it moving.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
But this also does point out the fact that this
is a story because it's Shadhor Sanders and this is
and people aren't you know, probably are gonna maybe disagree
with this, But there is something to being loud when
you're not the starter. It's not a great place to
be if.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Kess not loud. He just got he got pulled over.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
But it's loud because first of all, the time of year. Okay,
the NBA Finals have gotten less interesting as the series
has gone on, especially the past couple of days, and
the time of year, the name that goes along with it,
and the fact that if this was Dylan Gabriel, probably
not a big story. If this was Kenny Pickett, probably
(15:52):
not a big story. If it was Joe Flacco, probably
not a big story. He's the loudest and most talked
about name in that room, and so because of it,
he's gonna get talked about at nauseum because it's Shadoor
Sanders and the quote unquote brand and ore that he
brings with him. The guy sped a little bit, he
got popped. He wasn't drinking and driving. This wasn't a
(16:15):
DUI situation. He didn't have some story made up. Remember,
Jordan Addison also had a story made up to where
he was speeding because he was trying to get his
dog to the vet. I got news for you. If
a CoP's behind me and I'm trying to get my
dog to the vet, I'm throwing that thing out the window. Okay, Sorry, Well,
I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
I got news for you.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
If my dog is dying and I can save them
and I'm rushing them to the to the pet emergency room,
that cop is going to have to meet me there
and he can arrest me at the place where I'm
taking my dog.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I'm blaming the dog.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
I'm not blaming I'm I'm listen, and it is what
it is. It is what it is, mister Sticks.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Was if mister Sticks needed me to get him to
the emergency room, you're gonna have to follow me to the.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Emergency and in fact, you know what I would do.
I would actually put the dog in the driver's seat
and I had to hop in the passenger seat so
you could take full You're so stupid, and I'll just
I'll deal with the repercussions when I get home. Okay.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Can I put a bow on this? Let me put
a bow on this. From my perspective of Shador Sanders.
There's there's there's a few ways to look at it.
The first way is is this is this offense an
out for the Cleveland Browns. Do they leverage this as
here's our golden, golden ticket hand delivered on a platter
(17:34):
to us to be able to part ways with Shador Sanders.
That's that's that's option number one. Option number two is
you show Shador Sanders that you believe in him, and
you know, mistakes are made. You know, you got a ticket,
pay your ticket, you know, try not to get speeding tickets,
(17:57):
Shador like, slow it down, you know, don't do anything
that's going to bring this type of attention on to you, Uh,
getting to get in the locker room, getting the training room,
getting a meeting room, whatever, UH see you at practice?
Is it is it just as simple as you made
a mistake moving on? Or is this is this the
(18:18):
opportunity for them to say, yep, this is something that
we can leverage without getting cause it would take something
crazy for them to get out from under cutting Shadoor Sanders.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
What is your reasoning for doing it? And this could
be the possible, you know, way that they can leverage
something to let them go.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
You want to know why it's not an out for
the Browns to get away from Shore Sanders, because the
Browns already had an out to get away from Shore Sanders.
It was called the first four rounds of the draft.
Dang they want it in.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Hey, they allowed too many highlights to come out. Bro
they could not They could not leverage his draft.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
They could not leverage his draft pick for any further
then what they were going to be able to do
when they first drafted them. You know, after all of
the the OTA highlights that came out and continuous coverage
of Shador Sanders, they're not going to be able to
(19:16):
let him go based upon where he was drafted because
there's too much justification that he can play at that
level from the highlights that have.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Been released repeatedly of what he's doing in practices.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Do you think if he shows up to court to
fight the ticket, that mel Kiper will also show up
for support.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Do you think that will tell the judge that this
is just a man that there's not enough scrutiny on
in turn, or there's too much scrutiny on them, and
you guys don't know how quarterback drive trucks, and I
don't know, man.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Mel Kiper will blame the traffic people and say, well,
you know, the speed limit sign wasn't visible enough for
so that's why you should not have to pay this
two fifty maybel just really unfortunate.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
It's just really truly unfortunate that you got to take
something as trivial as getting pulled over for speeding. And again,
the only reason why I'm saying it because I'm not
saying break the law.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
I mean, hell, I was speeding this morning. You know
I was speeding.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
You know, I think I was doing fifty and a
thirty five this morning, Like sorry, I was just driving.
You know, I was driving my son's car. It's a
it's a muscle car. It's one of them chargers or whatever.
Not not the charger, what's the bigger body ones. Not
not the charger, but the other one.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
SRTs bro Come on anyway, I was driving his car
and it's fast, it's a strong car. So we're driving.
I'm driving. I'm not purposely or being dismissive of the
speed limit. I'm just driving. So if there's nothing connected
to him speeding, it's just the speeding ticket. Moving on,
(20:58):
there's no reason to have no hot take Rob on
saying this man needs to be cut immediately because he
got cited for speeding ticket.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Like, get out of here with that og. Y'all had notice.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I'm taking pop shots by Rob Parker until I get
it out of my system that I'm with you people,
some of these people at Fox Sports Radio, Like I
know I was one of these people. It was my
quote directly, So I'm going that og yeah a few
more times until i get it all out because I'm petty.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
And by the way, Lee, why don't you cut this
up and send it over to Robert Guerra and let
him let Rob get a whiff of this.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
I'm petty. By the way.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
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Speaker 4 (23:11):
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We are going to have an award that we'll hand
out here coming up about fifteen minutes from now here
on FSR. The Baltimore Ravens may have done it again.
(23:40):
They have signed Jayir Alexander, formerly of the Green Bay Packers,
to a one year deal worth up to six million
dollars if he stays healthy. This is a nice pickup
for Baltimore. They've already got a pretty solid secondary intact,
so this is another piece for the Ravens. The head
coach of the Ravens, John Harborough, spoke about the signing yesterday.
Speaker 8 (24:02):
I'm just really excited about a head chance to you know,
sit down with him today, which was an awesome, awesome,
awesome time, and he's he's excited to be here. We're
excited to have him. He had been kind of behind
the scenes in the works a little bit and and
I know we wanted to be here and we wanted him.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Here, you know.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
So for it to work out the way it did
made Lamar happy, you know, I think made everybody happy.
It's just an opportunity to become a better team in
that sense today, So we're really excited about it.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
So Lamar Jackson and JayR Alexander were teammates at Louisville,
so they have a previous relationship. So Lamar kind of
jokingly throughout he you know, go out and sign him.
And then the next day they followed up by signing
Jay Alexander. Again, he's a piece for the secondaries. Maybe
not the player he once was considering the injuries, but
if he could stay healthy, another solid pick up for Baltimore.
(24:52):
But I don't know why it is, and maybe it's
just their track record of making wise personnel decisions, not
all of them. Okay, there's been some misses, but for
the most part, if Baltimore makes a move or signs
a player on a prove it deal or something along
those lines, I tend to trust the Baltimore front office
(25:15):
and their decision making about as much as I do
anybody in the NFL. It just seems like an organization
where if you're trying to build back or come back
from injury or anything else and revitalize your career, that's
a place in an organization you'd want to do it with.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
It seems like it seems like it, And especially on
the defensive side of the ball. You know, it's not
it's not that you know, Jaiere isn't capable of being
you know, an all pro, a Pro Bowl level level guy.
Just didn't work out, you know, that way where he
was currently at, well formerly at. I just think a
(25:56):
lot of this, you know, sometimes it's probably placed proper
time he gets a new new beginning. I saw the
video where they you know, saw each other for the
first time in the meeting room, and how excited they
were to see one another. I mean, this could be
the move that that makes the most sense for him
(26:18):
to have a bump in positivity for his career. You know,
you just never know, though, I mean, you know, he
could still be a marginal guy, just above marginal guy,
a serviceable guy for them. It's just a matter of
how he fits into to the scheme. But most people
that go to Baltimore, especially you know, well I wouldn't
(26:41):
say especially any particular position, but you know, guys go
there as cornerbacks, it seems like they have productive years.
They go there as safeties, they seem to have productive years.
Linebackers the same, and defensive lineman the same. It seems
like when you go to the Ravens on defense you
tend to have have successful years. Then on the offensive
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side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
To that point, I just there's something about and maybe
it's the influence of because Ozzie Newsom is still there
and still you can feel his presence.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
In the building.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
And so you've got that, and you've got Eric DaCosta
who basically took over for Ozzie Newsom, and even Ozzie
knewso on his way out the door. His you know,
one final first round pick was Lamar Jackson. It's like, oh,
by the way, I'm away out the door. Here's a
guy who's a future Hall of Famer potentially, and it
just it seems like what they touch, I don't want
(27:37):
to say turns to gold, but at least puts them
in a position to where that's a guy who could
have success. And John Harbaugh mentioned it, you know, this
is a place that he wanted to be. There was
probably other opportunities for him out there. There's probably other
opportunities to where maybe he gets more playing time, maybe
he gets more reps because it is a pretty loaded secondary.
(27:57):
But he probably recognized that and said, man, if I
got to do it on a one year proven deal,
there's no better place to do it than in Baltimore,
where seemingly they're able to find guys and put them
in a position to succeed and I would imagine that's
probably an opinion around the NFL as well too, that
if you're a player out there that's that's not a
(28:20):
that's a pretty nice landing if you're in a spot
to where you're trying to get back to where you
once or previously were and trying to build back your
reputation in the league. Seems seems like a good, good
foundation for a play.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
I think it's a solid take. He's heading into his
what eighth year, his eighth season. I believe.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
His stat line isn't anything to to gock over, but
he probably fits into the scenario as a second a
second defensive back, you know, coming in a rotation guy,
maybe a nickel nickel dime pen coverage guy that comes
in as as an extra dB. And there's possibly the
(29:07):
opportunity that could come about where he's able to start.
But I think it's a great situation because you know,
now he gets away from being you know, the draft pick. Right,
It's not like, all right, he's the draft pick. This
isn't good enough, and you know, whatever it may be
that he had to deal with in his experience while
(29:30):
he was in Green Bay, but it's a kick. I
think it is a great opportunity for him.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
It's a kick the tires type deal. Okay, it's one
year's one year at a total max out at six
million dollars. Why not see if he's got something left.
If he doesn't, then you can move on. But if
he does, all of a sudden, it's another piece for
your secondary. It's like when they went out and signed
Derrick Henry. The second the move happened and they signed
Derrick Henry, it's like, Oh, that makes way too much sense.
(29:58):
That's just gonna work. You just you I knew that
that fit was going to work with Derrick Henry, and
you saw what it did last year. So you know,
Baltimore adds another piece, and I would say this, you know,
I thought it was pretty disrespectful Lee's attitude towards the
JayR Alexander signing. Because Lee is a packer. Some would
call him a ball washer. I would not, but some
(30:18):
would call him that. And so Lee sort of scoffed
at the idea of JayR Alexander based on his two
previous injury riddled years, and.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
That would have been the key. Yeah, that's been the
key of it.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Three in the last four you know, yeah, can't stay healthy.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
He's a pro bowler in twenty twenty two though.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
And twenty twenty second team, second team All Pro.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Twice, he's been a Pro bowler, he's been an All Pro.
And again that's the issue is have the injuries derailed
his ability to be able to make big plays?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Now?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
What sort of injuries were we to be that legit guy?
Which was like what an injury wise? The concerning injury
issue for you as you went to Green Bay last
year and spent time at a rubber ducky klom machine
instead of showing your support for JR. Alexander and his
in his you know, hopeful return to the NFL in
a solid, impactful way. What sort of injuries were we
(31:10):
looking at there?
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Well, it's it's tough to keep track because I think
he's had a number of them including growing back, shoulder,
knee injuries.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
I think it was a knee injury, his PC that
he's been dealing with lately. Yeah, the PCL.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
It was his PCL and he had to get a
scope on it.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
You know, it's not the name.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
It's not an easy that's it's a simple procedure these days,
but it's not the easiest, the easiest of injuries to
come back.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Isn't isn't PCL a TV brand.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
Or that T set's TCL?
Speaker 5 (31:39):
Yeah huh but uh but you know, everyone in the
coaches and everyone in the front office were reportedly frustrated
with him for like he would come, he would come back,
and then he would leave the game.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
He would play for just a few plays and then
leave and.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
S Green Bay. What do you want to do? Hang out?
Speaker 4 (31:56):
I'm supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Why why can't you stick around? I don't know, open
your eyes? What do you mean another here?
Speaker 5 (32:02):
I mean obviously I'm frustrated because we gave him every opportunity.
We offered him much more money than the Ravens did.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
We.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Hey, I'm an owner, you.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Are not no owner.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I got I gotta share your ass up. You know,
I ain't got no ownership shares in that place. I'm
an owner.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (32:26):
They're owned by the community. So you just think you
could just loosely throw out there, Yeah, I own stock.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
I own stock. You don't.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
It's Lee not we.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Own stock.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
You ain't got no What do you mean do you
actually own stock in the packers?
Speaker 3 (32:41):
I gotta I gotta share.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
I need you to, I need you to show me. Yeah,
I don't believe that. I don't believe that, not one
not for one second. Do you have stock in a
Green Bay Packers?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I think you sold that share for a bottle of booze.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I never owned it.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I think I think it's a guy stocking shelves at
a seven eleven who's got stock of the packers now
because Lee gave it up for a for a for
a bottle of bourbon and a bender.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Yeah, I'm gonna give you one more chance to tell
the truth. Do you own stock in the Green Bay Packers?
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Or no?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Of course I do.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
I want to see it. I want to see it.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
I want war.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
You can win. I won't put that dope. I want.
I want you to send me the proof in my
email sometime in the near future.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I'll see if I can find it.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Now, please, I want to see where it says that
lead to lap owns.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Oh no, no, they don't. They don't put your name
on it. These things are like, well, come on, Lee.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
This isn't put your name on I haven't.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
No, I haven't seen it because I had no interest
in being an owner of the Packers.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
There's a difference between fan cards and ownerships.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Well, I mean, if you know about the Packers shares,
they're they're purely it's not doesn't mean anything, Yes it does.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
It's an asset.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
If you've purchased stock in the team, you have stock
in the team, and that needs to be in your name.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Lee.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
You don't stock and you don't have.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
It all, then don't put that dowt bet that doll.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Lee.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
You ain't got no stopping that team. Stop captain man.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
I'm just saying we as the Packers, are very frustrated
with I was bummed that he went to the Ravens man.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Okay, well, hold because why because you feel like that's
a because he's actually gonna do well there. Yeah, of course,
because that's what happens.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
If he can stay healthy and if he can return
back to form. I think that's what it.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Let's not let's not bury the lead here, Okay, Lee,
who tends to do that at a time. Actually, you know,
let's we get.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
To pick this up on that leads.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
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Speaker 4 (35:41):
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Go to expresspros dot com. All right, So we were
(36:11):
asking a very important question here. All right, we want
to see that proof of ownership. All right, that's what
we want. I want to see that damn one. We
want to see that damn proof of ownership.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Lead to LAP.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
All right, you claim you are the owner of the
Green Bay Packers, that you are part owner.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I am a part owner.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yes, all right, so let's go ahead and see this. Yeah,
it's you at lambeau Field.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
This is not proof me at the shareholders meeting.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
It's late to LAP if you don't go to the
bathroom and wash your boddy mouth out with some frickin
molde water.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
You got a picture of you putting a it's good
sign up and that what bro? What w t F
is this?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Lee?
Speaker 4 (37:03):
It's a picture of you standing behind the goal post?
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Yeah, the shareholders meeting?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Lee, Lorena?
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Lorena?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Is there anything about this that says Lee is a shareholder?
For I don't have the share up.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
I mean, I mean, you got to realize you're talking
to Lorena. She's my gosh, is the most shareholder photo
I've ever seen. You know what, Lee, you could even
photoshop that's big white sign in here that says I
own this team. Yeah, that's that's Lorena, who's the captain
of the LDL, the Lee the Lap Defense League. She
loves defending Lee at all costs. Here, let me for
(37:41):
people that are listening, here's what the picture is. It's
Lee in the back of the end zone at Lambeau Field,
raising his arms up like he's doing a goal post.
Yeah he is. He's not even dressed up. He's he
doesn't even look like an owner. He's got a Packers
T shirt, he's got a sweater wrapped around his waist
(38:02):
to tie it in a knot. And he's wearing the
same jeans he wore when he skinned his knee at
Radio Row, the Super Bowl jeans I wear.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
But Lee, this is not proof of I don't I'm sorry.
I couldn't come up with the sheriff and height now
within the last five minutes.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Okay, then, how did how I want to be in
your email or some type of foul in your phone?
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Lee?
Speaker 3 (38:23):
It's just it's not it's not hand me down. It's
a hand me down gift.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
It's it's a framed piece of paper that says what
it looks like a diplomat. It's like you're a proud
owner of the Green Bay Packer or something like something
along those lines.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
I haven't seen it in ever, in years. I'm looking
for a picture of.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
You haven't seen it in years that you have ownership
stock and steak in the Green Bay pack.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
You and Todd smoked it one night.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
How much exactly do you have? Lee?
Speaker 3 (38:52):
It's a one dude. Do you know how these works?
It's an honorary thing.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
They still know how having ownership steak works. Ye, Lee,
it's been how much how much ownership stock do you have?
Speaker 5 (39:03):
If you remember from our stories years ago, they did
start offering more shares, so it's gone down in percentage
wise because every few years they do a fundraiser.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Where they offer three hundred dollars.
Speaker 5 (39:13):
You get an honorary piece of paper that says you're
a member of the packers, and it really means nothing.
It's an honorary piece of paper. But as you know,
and everyone who's a sports fan knows, you have a
popillary piece of paper. Yes, okay, Lee, that's not ownership.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Dude, I know that, but I'm saying everybody knows the
Packers sports where you can say me.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
Yeah, they're dune
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Green Bay Packers
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