July 10, 2025 • 40 mins
The Commanders bring back Super Bowl era uni’s, but still refuse to reward Terry McLaurin with a well-deserved contract. Coach Prime wants to see a salary cap in college football/ Plus, the GOAT, Joey Chestnut setting records.
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Speaker 3 (01:23):
By the way, how about the fact but there is
two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you Black and
drag here on a Thursday morning all the way up
until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. How about
the fact that they're bringing back the old Washington Redskins jerseys.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
See, we saw that there was a Indian group, a
Native American group that said, now that things are seemingly
settling down and settling in in the United States, which
I don't know what news they're paying attention to, but
uh said, it's time to return and restore the commanders
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back to the Washington raidskin. I mean, you know, I
saw that report somewhere. Now, it could have been it
could have been AI. You know, you doesn't ever know anymore.
You got to really check your sources these days. But
I did see that there was a letter that was
sent to Congress or something to that effect.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
It wouldn't be the first.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I just.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Look, it's not for me to speak on who should
be offended by what when it comes to that stuff.
To my knowledge, I'm not Native American, so it's not
It's not my place to say who should be offended
and who shouldn't. But there was back when all this
was happening, some thought that if if it wasn't attached
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to Dan Snyder. Would there have been such a push
to make the change because he was so adamant and
he was so disliked by so many people that it
was almost like a battle to try and.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
To get him. Yeah, you wanted to devalue what he had.
That's possible because they would not even entertain the idea
of the stadium going into the district of Columbia. Would
not entertain it.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Like they're look sweet, they're old, I'm telling you, and
I used to wear they are so sweet, like just
that color combo, the scheme, all that like. And look,
I've said this before. I think a lot of those
unis from back in the day. You see the Seahawks
dust off the old ones, the Giants, the Eagles are
way better than some of the stuff they've come out
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with now.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
So I like the commander's uniforms, though I think they
look pretty dope. To be honest, I like the commanders so,
but I like their uniforms. You know, I know a
lot of people have a lot of issues one way
or to the other in terms of how they feel
about the whole name deal, but you know, it is
what it is.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Well, speaking of the commanders who are no longer the commandos.
We used to make that joke, and then once they
got good, it was no longer fun to make fun
of the commandos. So they are the commanders. Maybe one
day they'll go back to their former name, but nonetheless.
Joe Thaisman, a legendary Washington commander slash Redskin, he talked
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about the Terry McLaurin situation. He was on the Up
and Adams Show with Kay Adams and had this to
say about the star receiver for Washington.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
That would be a major problem for all of us
to appreciate what the commanders have done, what Terry has done.
Terry's a dear friend. He's just a great young man,
a great leader. You know, you talk about intangibles. His
intangibles and his value to this football team are even
more outweighed, should say, than his talent, which we know
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is extreme. He needs to be paid. He needs to
be paid right away. We need to put this issue
behind us as a football team. He is one of
the leaders and he's a guy that you can always
count on.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Now I agree with him about uh, Terry Macklin. I
think that Terry Macklin is an amazing football player, an
amazing person and should be compensated. I think he's a
major part of Jayde and Daniel's success. So they got
to make sure they get Macklin signed. Terry Macklin. Yeah,
(05:21):
I mean you didn't catch it though, Did you catch it?
What I did? Just now?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yes, what I do? Did Macklin look at your rundown? Oh?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Look at your rundown? Oh Jesus, And you asked you,
and you asked him earlier, You asked him earlier. Did
he have a night?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
It's like there's no way LeVar thinks his last name
is Macklin. No, Levart doesn't. Lee does, apparently based on
the rundown.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And just Macklin not not his first name, just Macklin. Whatever.
I don't think he's played in quite some time. Isn't
that the even from Missouri? He went to the Eagles
or something.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Oh Jeremy mack Yeah, I remember him. Yeah, he was
part of that. It was him and DeShawn Jackson. Yeah, yeah,
they were all part of the the same team back then.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
On a more serious note, I do agree with what
Thaisman is saying.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I think that unless unless you were to pull off
which would be I don't know, it would rank up
there as one of the highest like profile trades to
take place, unless there's that that rumor of t J.
Watt a swap out for t J. Watt and Terry McLaurin,
which I think would be a win win for both
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of them. I don't think that it would be a
slight If I'm Terry McLaurin, if I get the opportunity
to go to Pittsburgh and play, you would become the
easily the number two receiver there and and maybe even
challenged to be number one, and that that would be
a tremendous And now you're talking about there are no
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excuses for Pittsburgh and Aaron Rodgers and I have a
good year outside of maybe their backfield. But and then
if the Washington Commanders were able to add a talent
like TJ. Watt, it would make them one of the
most formidable defensive fronts in all of football. So it
would be a win win. Outside of a scenario like that,
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I can't see why you would mess around with this situation. Greed,
and so you gotta go ahead, and you gotta You're
getting closer and closer to training camp. I mean, we're
in July. You know, maybe you give it a week
or two. I don't know, but you don't want this
to be a holdout scenario. You got too much great will,
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good will built up from last season with the transition
to the Harris ownership group. You have a guy in
Jane Daniels who can carry the load as the anchor
star franchise quarterback going into his sophomore season. You don't
want to do anything to lose that momentum. It's like
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that water primer, you know, getting the water out of
the well. You've primed it and you've primed it and
you've primed it, and they've done a great job of
getting the water to come out of you know, with
the pump. You don't want to stop pumping because if
you stop pumping, then the water starts coming out, then
you got to start the process all over again. Washington
is in a good position. Don't lose your momentum. Sign
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Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
It just and that's the part that doesn't add up
to me, and it's why I think they're going to
get a deal done. It's also why I think ultimately
Pittsburgh's going to get a deal done with TJ. Watt
because based on the direction of the organization, the plan
of the organization, this would be the opposite of that.
Washington has tried to stabilize the organization, set the foundation,
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get first, you know, get new ownership in the restore
the faith and the fan base put together, and build
a roster and sort of get this thing going from
the ground up. And the guy who's been there during
the dark days of Washington when all that stuff was
happening is Terry McLaurin, and he's sort of the the
leader of the locker room, the veteran presence of the
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locker room. To make all of this progress as an
organization only to not maintain Terry McLaurin just wouldn't make
any sense to me. It almost seems counter to everything
that they've tried to build there over the past several years.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
It wouldn't make sense for the simple fact that you're
also talking about what are you what is your recourse
if you don't sign if you don't sign them back,
like who are you using? Who are you using? And
that would be my biggest question is how do you
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determine what direction you're going to go in? Like I
just find it to be curious that if you're if
you're intending to not pay Terry McLaurin what he wants,
how are you looking at it? Are you viewing it
as the closer we get this is a game of chicken,
he's going to break break down and he's going, you know,
him and his representation are going to do the deal.
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Or are you looking at it like we're okay with
moving on from you know what we got going on.
It's interesting if you go to their depth chart on
ESPN or even to their site, it doesn't have any
skill positions outside of the quarterback listed on the depth chart,
which means they're fully aware. You gotta believe that you
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can get a hold of depth charts pretty easily. They're
fully aware of what the situation is at the receiver's position.
They don't want people looking at their depth chart. So
it's either they got something in the wings that they
feel really good about and maybe they feel like they
can get a better value at the position and not
have to give Terry McLaurin that contract that he's seeking,
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or you don't have anything out of all, but it's
still a negotiation and you got to figure out how
you can get him at the best price that you
can get them for. And you got to hold things
close to the vest till you get it done, or
you're looking at it as do we have enough value
to move them and bring in another another edition that's
just as valued. And again I gave you guys that
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that scenario of how that could possibly play out. But
keep in mind the idea of that type of a
trade taking place. TJ. Watt's gonna come in and he's
gonna want to get paid. Terry Mclaurin's gonna come into
Pittsburgh and he's gonna want to get paid. So why
not just pay what you have? Yeah, why don't you
pay for who you have? And and Pittsburgh, of all teams,
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should be the one that's thinking that way right now.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah, they like Pittsburgh walking away or dealing TJ. Watt
just it just doesn't make any sense based on the
moves that they've made. Like every Pittsburgh's basically told everybody, I.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Don't think you'd be able to justify it by bringing
in another weapon of the caliber of Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
No, No, I'd rather have TJ. Watt, Terry mclaurin's a
fine player. That's awesome, But I feel like you need
the anchor, you need the guy on defense, and I'll
take TJ. Watt Like I know that that would load
up the Steeler offense, but I think you would lose
too much defensively if you want away from it.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I don't disagree with that sentiment at all, but i
will say, if I'm going all in and I'm saying
this is a one year I'm I'm putting all my
chips in the center of the table. I'm loading up
the offense, sticks picks. I'm just saying I'm loading up
the offense. And I wouldn't feel any certain type of
way about it. Wow. And even if it was TJ.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Watt, boy, really uh he really selling out the defensive
side of the ball. Huh?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Why has it got to be that? Damn. I'm just saying,
it's an offensive driven league. Pittsburgh needs offense. They're going
in on a legendary quarterback to get one season out
of them. Why would you not load up? Why would
you load up the skill players on the offensive side
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of the ball. That's all I'm sad, Especially if you
don't feel as though you can get close enough to
one another with what the you know, what each side wants.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
To have, you know, so you know, it's so disturbing
about this, Oh punk Satani LaVar Arrington grows up in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
It's all about defense, baby.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
He loves the defense. He loves Greg Lloyd. It's Levon, Kirkland,
Carnell Lake, Rod Woodson, Kevin Green, all those Pittsburgh Steelers
defensive players. Cheesel goes on, yeah, to have one of
the most illustrious college football careers in the state of
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Pennsylvania on the defensive side of the ball. And then
years later, at four feet fifteen local time, here on
a Thursday morning in July.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Eight fifteen in Pittsburgh, maybe.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
City seven fifteen, but three hours ahead seven.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Fifteen, listen, thank you early batman.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Sitting look for fifteen, sitting here, we'd be closer to done.
He's sitting here next to a vampire in an Italia.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah shirt, yeah, stay, didn't see the stay and wasn't
looking for that.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
And you're and you're sitting here telling us down way
too far on the coat. You're sitting here, telling us
it's right there. You're sitting there telling us. You know what,
forget about all that. Let's bring in more offense. F
the defense, f my roots, forget the Pittsburgh Steeler defensive legacy.
None of that matters. Let's go more offense. That's a
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damn disgrace.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I mean, listen, I'm with you on that. I'm one
hundred percent with you, Just so you know. I mean,
load up the defense, make sure they got a dope defense,
Get some some characters, some names on the defense side
of the ball. I'm all about it. Keep TJ wide,
I'm all about it. But I'm just saying, why would
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it not be why would it not be justifiable? If
you're saying this is an all in year, putting it
all in, all on the line, right, I'm putting it
all on the line. I'm not saving anything for any
other season. It's all on the line for this season.
And I could add another weapon like that to the
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arsenal of weapons that you've already tried to put and
play like if they still had pickings. It's not even
it's not even a question. I think the fact that
they traded out, they traded out, they swapped out receivers,
leaves the door wide open for the conversation of you
still don't have enough weapons for Aaron Rodgers to overcome
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defense schemes in national football?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Can they send like Jordy Nelson or Alan Lazard are available, Like,
let's just go that direct, go get Jordy? Why not?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
You know, all I know is you hyped it about
the defense. But if if I'm going all in and
my job is on the line or things are on
the line for what we're going to do for this
one season, why would you not give him another receiver
on the other side of the ball. I mean, that's
what they did for Dak Prescott. Like, it's one thing
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if you got rid of a player, bring in another player,
and your your addition, you're you're adding to it. You
did not add to what you're doing in Pittsburgh. You
did not. You just replaced. You did not upgrade. You
bring in Terry McLaurin. You can definitively say you've upgraded
your offense, and you've upgraded in a way where now
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John news Smith and Pat Fryarmouth at at TYD and
you got depth that tight end and now you have
a one to two punch where either one of those
guys can play a one receiver position, like you don't
even have to say one to two on a receiving
cord that would have Terry McLaurin and DK metcalf. It
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just makes all the sense in the world if you
were going to do it, if you're going to be
forced to spend the money. I'm gonna spend that money
knowing that my job is on the line, and we're
putting all our cards in, our chips in the front,
and then to Tay, I'm showing my hand, put my
chips in. I'm showing my hand. Here's what we're going
to do. Why wouldn't that make any sense? That's that's
how I see it. But that would be the only
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way that I don't get a deal done with Scary Terry,
And that'd be the only way I don't get a
deal done with TJ. Watt is if I had the
ability to be able to swap out and add that
type of value to each each scenario.
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again a little over twenty minutes from now. Dion Sanders
was that the Big twelve media Days and was talking
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about sure was was talking about the issue of college football,
the nil, the spending, all of the stuff that is
happening in Dion coach Prime has a thought on how
to improve things. How do you believe NIL should be
guard railed now? Especially with the revenue sharing at fairs.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
I wish it was a cat, but you know, like
the top of the line player makes this, and if
you're not that type of guy, you know you're not
gonna make that.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
That's what the NFL does.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
So the probably mean is you got a guy that's
not that darn good, but he could go to another
school and they give them half a million dollars and
you can you can't compete with that.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
That don't make sense.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
And you're talking about equality, not equality like equal attend
to equality. And all you have to do is look
at the playoffs and see what those teams spent. And
you understand during the white end playoffs, it's kind of
hard to compete with somebody who's giving twenty five thirty
million dollars. So during freshman class, right, it's crazy. We're
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not complaining because all these coaches up here can coach
at bts off and given the right opportunity with the
right players and play here and there, you'll be there.
But it's what's going on right now. Don't make sense
and we want to say stuff, but we're trying to
be professional. But you're going to see the same teams
during that at the end and with somebody who sneaks
up in there, but the team that pays the more,
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pays the most is going to be then in.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
So that was Deon Sanders, Colorado head coach at Big
twelve Media Days, talking about the issue with nil and
the demand for well not demand, but the hope for
a salary cap maybe eventually helping this whole situation and
landscape in college football. Look, man, I just want whatever
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gets us to a place where we know what the
parameters are and we just go from there. Whatever however
we get there faster is better for me, and I
think better for a lot of people, because I think
a lot of people are just exhausted by the back
and forth and trying to keep up with the changing
landscape that is college football. It's exhausting, man.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
It is exhausting, and it's a lot of moving parts.
I mean, a cap being put on on the teams,
I mean, that's just that's one of many things that
you would have to assume is going to have to
take place if you're going to try to create parity.
I think what he might have been looking for instead
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of equality was just the parody of and level of
closeness and competition. You know, if a team can spend
thirty million, everybody talked about how much you know, a
Hio States spent on there, which is probably who he
was referencing. They won it all. I mean you look
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like you look at a team like Oregon, they're they're
close to it. They came into a new environment and
was able to win the Big Ten Conference. So when
you look at who the major spenders are, they can't now.
I mean you'd assume they can afford to miss more
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so than a Colorado you know, in terms of if
you're giving out a large amount of money to a
player that may not necessarily ever transition from being potential
to you know, fruition. But I also think that one
thing that you got to take a look at and
consider now is is when he talked about, you know,
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the value not being able to compete with the value
of if a school pays this amount to an athlete
and he's not as good, and how the athletes on
your team are going to be negotiating and looking at
what's going on and leveraging. You know, how do you coach?
How do you coach a team where they're like, Okay,
this is how much I'm getting paid. If you tell
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me something I don't like, I'll call my agent. My
agent will start reaching out to other schools, and then
I'll plan my departure to go to another school. How
do you coach people that under those those circumstances. And
then now what's taking place with Texas Tech and the
reports coming out that they've gone beyond what the regular
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status quo approach of doing contracts with these kids coming out?
You do a three year contract and now you're putting
out the word guaranteed like guarantees, you're now moving the
goal post and you haven't figured out how to make
the field goal where the goal post are currently sitting
and they're already being moved. How do you now navigate
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doing contracts with these these athletes? Where is the fairness
or where are the comps? This that, so on and
so forth? How does that apply to the transfer portal?
How does it apply to the not being considered employees?
It's still not pay for play. There's so many different
issues Jonas, and so now you're adding more and more.
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You know, when you guarantee a three year contract or
you offer a three year contract to a kid, now
that becomes a comp You're starting to build the comps.
How are you going to compete with that? How are
you going to contend with that? Are the big schools
going to start giving out three year contracts? They may
be forced to. You just don't know what it's going
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to look like because there are very little rules and
regulations that force you to kind of live within the
space to keep things competitive and having a level of
parody between the schools. But I will also say, you know,
in closing, wrapping it up, it's always been a tremendous disparity.
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If you're a football power, it's always been a disparity.
If you're a basketball power, it's always been because that's
where the advertising dollars go. It's one thing for everybody
to get the same type of money and the television contracts.
But when you're talking about the amount of support that
you're able to garner when you have advertisers that go
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direct to the universities, like they want their products there,
that's the demo that they want to hit, and you're
talking about a Michigan or an Ohio state. You know
in basketball, if it's like a duke or you know,
U n C. Whatever, like, the amount of resource that
resources they have to back what they're doing is endless Oregon.
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It's it's endless. You're talking about endless resources. So that's
there's just a lot to it. And I don't see
there being a tremendous amount of rules and regulations and
structure that's going to alleviate the pressure of what's going
on right now. It's a pressure built and I wonder
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is there a pressure built where it's going to burst
or is a pressure is it a pressure azed situation
where they will be able to get enough things, you know, pasted,
enough things, regulated, enough things agreed upon where it alleviates
that pressure, and there isn't a burst that takes place,
so to speak. It takes down the pressure on it
and then the level of the the you know, the
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temperature goes down and you're not in an overheating situation.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
So I've seen this kind of kicked around to where
people think, well, this is going to even the playing field. Now,
a team like in a school, in a program like
Texas Tech, can all of a sudden compete with the
Texas when it comes to landing big time recruits. And
I look at that and I go, maybe in the
short term, maybe for this year, maybe even for next year.
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Eventually the powerhouses of college football will figure it out
and are going to maintain the powerhouses of college football.
Like I just there's way too much money and interest
and investment in those programs to just see a school
like Texas Tech show up and not have a booster
or somebody at Texas go oh no, no, no, that's
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not happening. Ever again, like that's that's not how this works,
Like we're Texas, all right, Let's let's remind people who
we are. And if that means that, you know that
you've got to put a salary cap on things, and
they've got to bring back you know, you know, the
bag man or whoever it is, it's got to like
whatever it is, it's just and I've thought about this
as well too. What a pain in the ass to
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be a coach in college football right now, because now
you've all of a sudden and I'm not saying that
athletes don't deserve to get paid or don't deserve, you know,
to get a check and this is you know, long overdue.
But now you're having to manage and operate dealing with
all of this and having to wonder, so, who's the
(29:02):
representation telling the athlete to make this move, go to
me for more money, hold my feet to the fire hold.
And you turn out it's you know, a cousin or
somebody you know, pretending to be an agent. Like just
the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Well, they're not pretending. That's the thing about it, that
whether they're qualified or not, they're acting as representations. And
and and because of the way that this is all
regulated or lack thereof, they have the freedom to become
an agent. They had the freedom to become a representation,
representative of these athletes.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
The more I hear about this stuff, the more I
understand why guys like Chip Kelly and other another coaches
decided I am out of here. Yeah I'm good, you know,
like the Boston college head coach who bailed and went
to go be the defensive coordinator of the Packers. Now
I'm good, Like I don't you know, Nick Saban's like,
you know, what.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Have it done? I don't want coach at all?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I got I get it. I totally get it. And
people look at that and go, oh, well, they're just
running away from it because now they don't have all
the advantages. No, they're running away from it because they're like, dude,
this is not managed correctly.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
It's the way.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
It's literally the wild wild West. And if nobody's gonna
you know, get a hold of the of everybody involved
and be like, here's what the parameters are and this
is how we're going to operate. Why do I want
to deal with this? Like I just I don't want
Like Chip Kelly doesn't want to have to worry about this,
He just wants to coach football. Rick Patino's talked about
it as well too, and it was turning around Saint
(30:31):
John's stories, like you have to understand, I would love
to just be coaching. Instead, I've got to be at dinners.
I've got to be at this. I've got to try
and sell people and investing in the program. Like there's
so much that goes into it now outside of just coaching.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
You used to have players opt out of playing because
they wanted to make sure they were okay for the draft,
okay for the NFL. Like I remember Bosa, you know,
opted out. You know, Michael Parsons opted out because of
COVID and wanted to make sure health wise, he was doing.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
What he like.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
People opt out, They opt out of games all the
time for for a bigger a bigger purpose. Do you
realize you have people who are now in positions where
they're opting out to enter the transfer portal and it's
a negotiation, Like you got guys that that would actually announce,
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like like what happened with us with Boa Beulah Pa Beulah.
You know, he's he entered transfer portal. We didn't have
him for the rest of the playoffs, like different things
like that.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
And James Franklin had his back and defended all that
because he's like, man, listen, he doesn't want.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
To do this, but he has to.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
The calendar is such that he has to.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
If somebody if he's going to transfer and it's like, oh,
I'm gonna finish out the year with my teammates, he
runs the risk of losing that scholarship opportunity period. So
you now, what you do do you figure out like, Okay,
I'm going to come because if you if you pause,
if you put it out there, you know you got
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to you got to figure out a way that you're
going to go to a school before you enter the portal.
But then that's not I don't believe that that's by
the rules, that's not legal. You have to enter yourself
into the transfer portal, and then that's when you start
to see who wants you and what you can get
value wised out there on the open market. So it's
just it's so many complications to it. It's unnecessary and
(32:30):
in some of these cases, in some of these instances,
it would be alleviated with more regulations and rules to
guide it and manage it. But again, I don't see
there being a solution that really really stabilizes what's going
on anytime soon. And we listen to who's the writer
(32:51):
from the Athletic that we had on the other day,
Bruce listening to Feltman talk about what what these schools
are facing and how things are are unfolding because there's
so many like this is like really really damning. There
are so many different interpretations of the rules or what
(33:12):
NIL represents, what the collectives represent, how the money is
being divvied up, this the revenue share versus ANIL. There
are so many different interpretations Who are you going to
say is right? Who are you going to say is wrong?
If this school over here says this is how we
interpret it and this is how we're going to do it.
(33:33):
Like you said, who's reporting it, who's saying you're breaking
the rules? How is that being managed? How is that
being governed? It's just there's so many there's so many holes,
there's such a large gray area and what's taking place
that you know, it's just hard to it's hard to
assume that there's going to be a fear playing field
(33:55):
or a safe market, an established market at the college
level anytime soon, in unforeseeable future, I.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Mean, meanwhile, Buried underneath all this is the fact that
the college football season kicks off in about five weeks,
five and a half weeks, six weeks, something.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Like that, like fifty days right around, right around the corner.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
And still trying to figure all this other mess out.
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Speaker 3 (35:01):
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with the hair coming on top
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here again a little over ten minutes from now, But
it is time to hand out an award here on
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this show. We call this our Express Pros Pro of
the Week, and the Pro of the Week goes to
none other than the greatest of all time. But here he.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
Stands quiet, of talking, still of motion, content of wearing
shy of a god, perhaps.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
But more than a man.
Speaker 8 (35:49):
With seventy point five hot dogs and buns in ten minutes.
So Nathan's famous fourth of July Champion of the World.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Joey Chestnut. There it is, baby, courtesy of ESPN. I
am starting to believe congratulations to the Glizzy Glutton himself,
none other than Joey Chestnut.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Not a fan of your social media following group, but
one of them said, you're obsessed with Joey Testnut, and
I'm starting to believe that they're correct.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Well, who else we given the Express pros Pro the
Week award too?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
I mean, not a Glizzy Stuffer.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I mean, I don't know, George Springer of the Blue Jays.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I mean there's I don't know. I give it to
a weather man before I.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Get yeah, what about that one right there?
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Exactly?
Speaker 3 (36:50):
You? I understand that. How is the uh oh though?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
What your obsession is with Joey Chestnut?
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Man?
Speaker 3 (36:57):
The guy just shoveled seventy and a half hot dogs
in his mouth in ten minutes. He should be the
Express pros Pro the Week. I mean, who else? You're
the one telling us that he's an athlete?
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I said, by definition of what an athlete is, he's
considered that doesn't mean that we have to cover him.
We cover him more. He's probably lately second place to
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Wait, you think Joey Chestnuts second.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Aaron Rodgers in your coverage of him?
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Like listen, man, you and Lee are infatuated and obsessed
with this dude.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Man.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
I heard he was on the station not too long ago.
I heard he did an interview was the shows?
Speaker 4 (37:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
I didn't hear it, but I do know this. Joey Chestnut. Congratulations,
you are the Express Pros pro the week. So are
you ready for a new job? Let's employment professionals help
will Express helps people in all industries find work. Our
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(38:01):
if we go to expresspros dot com. Congratulations Joey chest Nut.
Now he disappears for another year. I think there's some
other events that pop up. Wing eating contest.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Go drink some goat milk Malayas. I wonder how he
gets it no kitting, Does he get it in the
cartn or does he just get it straight from straight
from the source and steivemind his back?
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Dang, that's disgusting.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Do you really?
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeahali, why do I hear some other records. He holds.
Speaker 9 (38:45):
Two chicken wings in thirty minutes, thirty fish tacos in
five one hundred and twenty one tweakies, and six dang,
one hundred and forty one hard boiled eggs, and eight
that is fricking one.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Hundred and forty one hard boiled eggs in eight minutes.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Yeah, I wonder does he puts salt and pepper on
him as he's eating time?
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Do you know how bad his gas must be after
that many hard boiled eggs.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
It has to smell like the worst. That has to
be the worst smell ever.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Oh no, you could use his underwear as part of
a drone strike. Dang, he is filthy. Eh, just drop
his drawl, that's all you need.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Drop the chestnuts all you need.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Just just hear bodies dropping, right, that's all you need.
One and forty hard boiled eggs.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
That's crazy, Man, chicken will make your your belly hurt too, Man,
Too much chicken, some fried chicken, I'd get you going. Man,
you don't want that. Eighty one mutton sandwiches in ten minutes.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
What is a mutton sandwich? It's a sham sheet.
Speaker 9 (40:02):
Meet twenty pounds of shrimp cocktail.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
He's disgusting, Joey Chess that there's no way you should
be the player of the week. It's disgusting what you do.
I mean, I hate that you get rewarded and all
this attention for doing disgusting, revolting things. I mean, there's.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Nobody, nobody better in the history of the quote unquote sport.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Disgusting it to mean, name another sport where you talk
about the things that you accomplished and it's freaking disgusting. Oh,
we are hungry, and we are hungry for more.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
He's our player of the Week, Express pros Pro the Week.
He sucks damn down, hot Dog. That is the Glizzi
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Speaker 1 (00:40):
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Speaker 3 (01:23):
By the way, how about the fact but there is
two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you Black and
drag here on a Thursday morning all the way up
until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. How about
the fact that they're bringing back the old Washington Redskins jerseys.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
See, we saw that there was a Indian group, a
Native American group that said, now that things are seemingly
settling down and settling in in the United States, which
I don't know what news they're paying attention to, but
uh said, it's time to return and restore the commanders
(02:02):
back to the Washington raidskin. I mean, you know, I
saw that report somewhere. Now, it could have been it
could have been AI. You know, you doesn't ever know anymore.
You got to really check your sources these days. But
I did see that there was a letter that was
sent to Congress or something to that effect.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
It wouldn't be the first.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I just.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Look, it's not for me to speak on who should
be offended by what when it comes to that stuff.
To my knowledge, I'm not Native American, so it's not
It's not my place to say who should be offended
and who shouldn't. But there was back when all this
was happening, some thought that if if it wasn't attached
(02:47):
to Dan Snyder. Would there have been such a push
to make the change because he was so adamant and
he was so disliked by so many people that it
was almost like a battle to try and.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
To get him. Yeah, you wanted to devalue what he had.
That's possible because they would not even entertain the idea
of the stadium going into the district of Columbia. Would
not entertain it.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Like they're look sweet, they're old, I'm telling you, and
I used to wear they are so sweet, like just
that color combo, the scheme, all that like. And look,
I've said this before. I think a lot of those
unis from back in the day. You see the Seahawks
dust off the old ones, the Giants, the Eagles are
way better than some of the stuff they've come out
(03:34):
with now.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
So I like the commander's uniforms, though I think they
look pretty dope. To be honest, I like the commanders so,
but I like their uniforms. You know, I know a
lot of people have a lot of issues one way
or to the other in terms of how they feel
about the whole name deal, but you know, it is
what it is.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Well, speaking of the commanders who are no longer the commandos.
We used to make that joke, and then once they
got good, it was no longer fun to make fun
of the commandos. So they are the commanders. Maybe one
day they'll go back to their former name, but nonetheless.
Joe Thaisman, a legendary Washington commander slash Redskin, he talked
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about the Terry McLaurin situation. He was on the Up
and Adams Show with Kay Adams and had this to
say about the star receiver for Washington.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
That would be a major problem for all of us
to appreciate what the commanders have done, what Terry has done.
Terry's a dear friend. He's just a great young man,
a great leader. You know, you talk about intangibles. His
intangibles and his value to this football team are even
more outweighed, should say, than his talent, which we know
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is extreme. He needs to be paid. He needs to
be paid right away. We need to put this issue
behind us as a football team. He is one of
the leaders and he's a guy that you can always
count on.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Now I agree with him about uh, Terry Macklin. I
think that Terry Macklin is an amazing football player, an
amazing person and should be compensated. I think he's a
major part of Jayde and Daniel's success. So they got
to make sure they get Macklin signed. Terry Macklin. Yeah,
(05:21):
I mean you didn't catch it though, Did you catch it?
What I did? Just now?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yes, what I do? Did Macklin look at your rundown? Oh?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Look at your rundown? Oh Jesus, And you asked you,
and you asked him earlier, You asked him earlier. Did
he have a night?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
It's like there's no way LeVar thinks his last name
is Macklin. No, Levart doesn't. Lee does, apparently based on
the rundown.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
And just Macklin not not his first name, just Macklin. Whatever.
I don't think he's played in quite some time. Isn't
that the even from Missouri? He went to the Eagles
or something.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Oh Jeremy mack Yeah, I remember him. Yeah, he was
part of that. It was him and DeShawn Jackson. Yeah, yeah,
they were all part of the the same team back then.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
No.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
On a more serious note, I do agree with what
Thaisman is saying.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I think that unless unless you were to pull off
which would be I don't know, it would rank up
there as one of the highest like profile trades to
take place, unless there's that that rumor of t J.
Watt a swap out for t J. Watt and Terry McLaurin,
which I think would be a win win for both
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of them. I don't think that it would be a
slight If I'm Terry McLaurin, if I get the opportunity
to go to Pittsburgh and play, you would become the
easily the number two receiver there and and maybe even
challenged to be number one, and that that would be
a tremendous And now you're talking about there are no
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excuses for Pittsburgh and Aaron Rodgers and I have a
good year outside of maybe their backfield. But and then
if the Washington Commanders were able to add a talent
like TJ. Watt, it would make them one of the
most formidable defensive fronts in all of football. So it
would be a win win. Outside of a scenario like that,
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I can't see why you would mess around with this situation. Greed,
and so you gotta go ahead, and you gotta You're
getting closer and closer to training camp. I mean, we're
in July. You know, maybe you give it a week
or two. I don't know, but you don't want this
to be a holdout scenario. You got too much great will,
(07:43):
good will built up from last season with the transition
to the Harris ownership group. You have a guy in
Jane Daniels who can carry the load as the anchor
star franchise quarterback going into his sophomore season. You don't
want to do anything to lose that momentum. It's like
(08:03):
that water primer, you know, getting the water out of
the well. You've primed it and you've primed it and
you've primed it, and they've done a great job of
getting the water to come out of you know, with
the pump. You don't want to stop pumping because if
you stop pumping, then the water starts coming out, then
you got to start the process all over again. Washington
is in a good position. Don't lose your momentum. Sign
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Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
It just and that's the part that doesn't add up
to me, and it's why I think they're going to
get a deal done. It's also why I think ultimately
Pittsburgh's going to get a deal done with TJ. Watt
because based on the direction of the organization, the plan
of the organization, this would be the opposite of that.
Washington has tried to stabilize the organization, set the foundation,
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get first, you know, get new ownership in the restore
the faith and the fan base put together, and build
a roster and sort of get this thing going from
the ground up. And the guy who's been there during
the dark days of Washington when all that stuff was
happening is Terry McLaurin, and he's sort of the the
leader of the locker room, the veteran presence of the
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locker room. To make all of this progress as an
organization only to not maintain Terry McLaurin just wouldn't make
any sense to me. It almost seems counter to everything
that they've tried to build there over the past several years.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
It wouldn't make sense for the simple fact that you're
also talking about what are you what is your recourse
if you don't sign if you don't sign them back,
like who are you using? Who are you using? And
that would be my biggest question is how do you
(09:52):
determine what direction you're going to go in? Like I
just find it to be curious that if you're if
you're intending to not pay Terry McLaurin what he wants,
how are you looking at it? Are you viewing it
as the closer we get this is a game of chicken,
he's going to break break down and he's going, you know,
him and his representation are going to do the deal.
(10:15):
Or are you looking at it like we're okay with
moving on from you know what we got going on.
It's interesting if you go to their depth chart on
ESPN or even to their site, it doesn't have any
skill positions outside of the quarterback listed on the depth chart,
which means they're fully aware. You gotta believe that you
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can get a hold of depth charts pretty easily. They're
fully aware of what the situation is at the receiver's position.
They don't want people looking at their depth chart. So
it's either they got something in the wings that they
feel really good about and maybe they feel like they
can get a better value at the position and not
have to give Terry McLaurin that contract that he's seeking,
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or you don't have anything out of all, but it's
still a negotiation and you got to figure out how
you can get him at the best price that you
can get them for. And you got to hold things
close to the vest till you get it done, or
you're looking at it as do we have enough value
to move them and bring in another another edition that's
just as valued. And again I gave you guys that
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that scenario of how that could possibly play out. But
keep in mind the idea of that type of a
trade taking place. TJ. Watt's gonna come in and he's
gonna want to get paid. Terry Mclaurin's gonna come into
Pittsburgh and he's gonna want to get paid. So why
not just pay what you have? Yeah, why don't you
pay for who you have? And and Pittsburgh, of all teams,
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should be the one that's thinking that way right now.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah, they like Pittsburgh walking away or dealing TJ. Watt
just it just doesn't make any sense based on the
moves that they've made. Like every Pittsburgh's basically told everybody, I.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Don't think you'd be able to justify it by bringing
in another weapon of the caliber of Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
No, No, I'd rather have TJ. Watt, Terry mclaurin's a
fine player. That's awesome, But I feel like you need
the anchor, you need the guy on defense, and I'll
take TJ. Watt Like I know that that would load
up the Steeler offense, but I think you would lose
too much defensively if you want away from it.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I don't disagree with that sentiment at all, but i
will say, if I'm going all in and I'm saying
this is a one year I'm I'm putting all my
chips in the center of the table. I'm loading up
the offense, sticks picks. I'm just saying I'm loading up
the offense. And I wouldn't feel any certain type of
way about it. Wow. And even if it was TJ.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Watt, boy, really uh he really selling out the defensive
side of the ball. Huh?
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Why has it got to be that? Damn. I'm just saying,
it's an offensive driven league. Pittsburgh needs offense. They're going
in on a legendary quarterback to get one season out
of them. Why would you not load up? Why would
you load up the skill players on the offensive side
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of the ball. That's all I'm sad, Especially if you
don't feel as though you can get close enough to
one another with what the you know, what each side wants.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
To have, you know, so you know, it's so disturbing
about this, Oh punk Satani LaVar Arrington grows up in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
It's all about defense, baby.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
He loves the defense. He loves Greg Lloyd. It's Levon, Kirkland,
Carnell Lake, Rod Woodson, Kevin Green, all those Pittsburgh Steelers
defensive players. Cheesel goes on, yeah, to have one of
the most illustrious college football careers in the state of
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Pennsylvania on the defensive side of the ball. And then
years later, at four feet fifteen local time, here on
a Thursday morning in July.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Eight fifteen in Pittsburgh, maybe.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
City seven fifteen, but three hours ahead seven.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Fifteen, listen, thank you early batman.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Sitting look for fifteen, sitting here, we'd be closer to done.
He's sitting here next to a vampire in an Italia.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Yeah shirt, yeah, stay, didn't see the stay and wasn't
looking for that.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
And you're and you're sitting here telling us down way
too far on the coat. You're sitting here, telling us
it's right there. You're sitting there telling us. You know what,
forget about all that. Let's bring in more offense. F
the defense, f my roots, forget the Pittsburgh Steeler defensive legacy.
None of that matters. Let's go more offense. That's a
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damn disgrace.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I mean, listen, I'm with you on that. I'm one
hundred percent with you, Just so you know. I mean,
load up the defense, make sure they got a dope defense,
Get some some characters, some names on the defense side
of the ball. I'm all about it. Keep TJ wide,
I'm all about it. But I'm just saying, why would
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it not be why would it not be justifiable? If
you're saying this is an all in year, putting it
all in, all on the line, right, I'm putting it
all on the line. I'm not saving anything for any
other season. It's all on the line for this season.
And I could add another weapon like that to the
(15:37):
arsenal of weapons that you've already tried to put and
play like if they still had pickings. It's not even
it's not even a question. I think the fact that
they traded out, they traded out, they swapped out receivers,
leaves the door wide open for the conversation of you
still don't have enough weapons for Aaron Rodgers to overcome
(16:00):
defense schemes in national football?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Can they send like Jordy Nelson or Alan Lazard are available, Like,
let's just go that direct, go get Jordy? Why not?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
You know, all I know is you hyped it about
the defense. But if if I'm going all in and
my job is on the line or things are on
the line for what we're going to do for this
one season, why would you not give him another receiver
on the other side of the ball. I mean, that's
what they did for Dak Prescott. Like, it's one thing
(16:30):
if you got rid of a player, bring in another player,
and your your addition, you're you're adding to it. You
did not add to what you're doing in Pittsburgh. You
did not. You just replaced. You did not upgrade. You
bring in Terry McLaurin. You can definitively say you've upgraded
your offense, and you've upgraded in a way where now
(16:53):
John news Smith and Pat Fryarmouth at at TYD and
you got depth that tight end and now you have
a one to two punch where either one of those
guys can play a one receiver position, like you don't
even have to say one to two on a receiving
cord that would have Terry McLaurin and DK metcalf. It
(17:17):
just makes all the sense in the world if you
were going to do it, if you're going to be
forced to spend the money. I'm gonna spend that money
knowing that my job is on the line, and we're
putting all our cards in, our chips in the front,
and then to Tay, I'm showing my hand, put my
chips in. I'm showing my hand. Here's what we're going
to do. Why wouldn't that make any sense? That's that's
how I see it. But that would be the only
(17:39):
way that I don't get a deal done with Scary Terry,
And that'd be the only way I don't get a
deal done with TJ. Watt is if I had the
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again a little over twenty minutes from now. Dion Sanders
was that the Big twelve media Days and was talking
(20:27):
about sure was was talking about the issue of college football,
the nil, the spending, all of the stuff that is
happening in Dion coach Prime has a thought on how
to improve things. How do you believe NIL should be
guard railed now? Especially with the revenue sharing at fairs.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
I wish it was a cat, but you know, like
the top of the line player makes this, and if
you're not that type of guy, you know you're not
gonna make that.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
That's what the NFL does.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
So the probably mean is you got a guy that's
not that darn good, but he could go to another
school and they give them half a million dollars and
you can you can't compete with that.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
That don't make sense.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
And you're talking about equality, not equality like equal attend
to equality. And all you have to do is look
at the playoffs and see what those teams spent. And
you understand during the white end playoffs, it's kind of
hard to compete with somebody who's giving twenty five thirty
million dollars. So during freshman class, right, it's crazy. We're
(21:25):
not complaining because all these coaches up here can coach
at bts off and given the right opportunity with the
right players and play here and there, you'll be there.
But it's what's going on right now. Don't make sense
and we want to say stuff, but we're trying to
be professional. But you're going to see the same teams
during that at the end and with somebody who sneaks
up in there, but the team that pays the more,
(21:46):
pays the most is going to be then in.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
So that was Deon Sanders, Colorado head coach at Big
twelve Media Days, talking about the issue with nil and
the demand for well not demand, but the hope for
a salary cap maybe eventually helping this whole situation and
landscape in college football. Look, man, I just want whatever
(22:09):
gets us to a place where we know what the
parameters are and we just go from there. Whatever however
we get there faster is better for me, and I
think better for a lot of people, because I think
a lot of people are just exhausted by the back
and forth and trying to keep up with the changing
landscape that is college football. It's exhausting, man.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
It is exhausting, and it's a lot of moving parts.
I mean, a cap being put on on the teams,
I mean, that's just that's one of many things that
you would have to assume is going to have to
take place if you're going to try to create parity.
I think what he might have been looking for instead
(22:53):
of equality was just the parody of and level of
closeness and competition. You know, if a team can spend
thirty million, everybody talked about how much you know, a
Hio States spent on there, which is probably who he
was referencing. They won it all. I mean you look
(23:14):
like you look at a team like Oregon, they're they're
close to it. They came into a new environment and
was able to win the Big Ten Conference. So when
you look at who the major spenders are, they can't now.
I mean you'd assume they can afford to miss more
(23:34):
so than a Colorado you know, in terms of if
you're giving out a large amount of money to a
player that may not necessarily ever transition from being potential
to you know, fruition. But I also think that one
thing that you got to take a look at and
consider now is is when he talked about, you know,
(23:55):
the value not being able to compete with the value
of if a school pays this amount to an athlete
and he's not as good, and how the athletes on
your team are going to be negotiating and looking at
what's going on and leveraging. You know, how do you coach?
How do you coach a team where they're like, Okay,
this is how much I'm getting paid. If you tell
(24:17):
me something I don't like, I'll call my agent. My
agent will start reaching out to other schools, and then
I'll plan my departure to go to another school. How
do you coach people that under those those circumstances. And
then now what's taking place with Texas Tech and the
reports coming out that they've gone beyond what the regular
(24:37):
status quo approach of doing contracts with these kids coming out?
You do a three year contract and now you're putting
out the word guaranteed like guarantees, you're now moving the
goal post and you haven't figured out how to make
the field goal where the goal post are currently sitting
and they're already being moved. How do you now navigate
(25:00):
doing contracts with these these athletes? Where is the fairness
or where are the comps? This that, so on and
so forth? How does that apply to the transfer portal?
How does it apply to the not being considered employees?
It's still not pay for play. There's so many different
issues Jonas, and so now you're adding more and more.
(25:21):
You know, when you guarantee a three year contract or
you offer a three year contract to a kid, now
that becomes a comp You're starting to build the comps.
How are you going to compete with that? How are
you going to contend with that? Are the big schools
going to start giving out three year contracts? They may
be forced to. You just don't know what it's going
(25:41):
to look like because there are very little rules and
regulations that force you to kind of live within the
space to keep things competitive and having a level of
parody between the schools. But I will also say, you know,
in closing, wrapping it up, it's always been a tremendous disparity.
(26:01):
If you're a football power, it's always been a disparity.
If you're a basketball power, it's always been because that's
where the advertising dollars go. It's one thing for everybody
to get the same type of money and the television contracts.
But when you're talking about the amount of support that
you're able to garner when you have advertisers that go
(26:22):
direct to the universities, like they want their products there,
that's the demo that they want to hit, and you're
talking about a Michigan or an Ohio state. You know
in basketball, if it's like a duke or you know,
U n C. Whatever, like, the amount of resource that
resources they have to back what they're doing is endless Oregon.
(26:43):
It's it's endless. You're talking about endless resources. So that's
there's just a lot to it. And I don't see
there being a tremendous amount of rules and regulations and
structure that's going to alleviate the pressure of what's going
on right now. It's a pressure built and I wonder
(27:05):
is there a pressure built where it's going to burst
or is a pressure is it a pressure azed situation
where they will be able to get enough things, you know, pasted,
enough things, regulated, enough things agreed upon where it alleviates
that pressure, and there isn't a burst that takes place,
so to speak. It takes down the pressure on it
and then the level of the the you know, the
(27:29):
temperature goes down and you're not in an overheating situation.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
So I've seen this kind of kicked around to where
people think, well, this is going to even the playing field. Now,
a team like in a school, in a program like
Texas Tech, can all of a sudden compete with the
Texas when it comes to landing big time recruits. And
I look at that and I go, maybe in the
short term, maybe for this year, maybe even for next year.
(27:54):
Eventually the powerhouses of college football will figure it out
and are going to maintain the powerhouses of college football.
Like I just there's way too much money and interest
and investment in those programs to just see a school
like Texas Tech show up and not have a booster
or somebody at Texas go oh no, no, no, that's
(28:17):
not happening. Ever again, like that's that's not how this works,
Like we're Texas, all right, Let's let's remind people who
we are. And if that means that, you know that
you've got to put a salary cap on things, and
they've got to bring back you know, you know, the
bag man or whoever it is, it's got to like
whatever it is, it's just and I've thought about this
as well too. What a pain in the ass to
(28:40):
be a coach in college football right now, because now
you've all of a sudden and I'm not saying that
athletes don't deserve to get paid or don't deserve, you know,
to get a check and this is you know, long overdue.
But now you're having to manage and operate dealing with
all of this and having to wonder, so, who's the
(29:02):
representation telling the athlete to make this move, go to
me for more money, hold my feet to the fire hold.
And you turn out it's you know, a cousin or
somebody you know, pretending to be an agent. Like just
the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Well, they're not pretending. That's the thing about it, that
whether they're qualified or not, they're acting as representations. And
and and because of the way that this is all
regulated or lack thereof, they have the freedom to become
an agent. They had the freedom to become a representation,
representative of these athletes.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
The more I hear about this stuff, the more I
understand why guys like Chip Kelly and other another coaches
decided I am out of here. Yeah I'm good, you know,
like the Boston college head coach who bailed and went
to go be the defensive coordinator of the Packers. Now
I'm good, Like I don't you know, Nick Saban's like,
you know, what.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Have it done? I don't want coach at all?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
I got I get it. I totally get it. And
people look at that and go, oh, well, they're just
running away from it because now they don't have all
the advantages. No, they're running away from it because they're like, dude,
this is not managed correctly.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
It's the way.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
It's literally the wild wild West. And if nobody's gonna
you know, get a hold of the of everybody involved
and be like, here's what the parameters are and this
is how we're going to operate. Why do I want
to deal with this? Like I just I don't want
Like Chip Kelly doesn't want to have to worry about this,
He just wants to coach football. Rick Patino's talked about
it as well too, and it was turning around Saint
(30:31):
John's stories, like you have to understand, I would love
to just be coaching. Instead, I've got to be at dinners.
I've got to be at this. I've got to try
and sell people and investing in the program. Like there's
so much that goes into it now outside of just coaching.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
You used to have players opt out of playing because
they wanted to make sure they were okay for the draft,
okay for the NFL. Like I remember Bosa, you know,
opted out. You know, Michael Parsons opted out because of
COVID and wanted to make sure health wise, he was doing.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
What he like.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
People opt out, They opt out of games all the
time for for a bigger a bigger purpose. Do you
realize you have people who are now in positions where
they're opting out to enter the transfer portal and it's
a negotiation, Like you got guys that that would actually announce,
(31:23):
like like what happened with us with Boa Beulah Pa Beulah.
You know, he's he entered transfer portal. We didn't have
him for the rest of the playoffs, like different things
like that.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
And James Franklin had his back and defended all that
because he's like, man, listen, he doesn't want.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
To do this, but he has to.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
The calendar is such that he has to.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
If somebody if he's going to transfer and it's like, oh,
I'm gonna finish out the year with my teammates, he
runs the risk of losing that scholarship opportunity period. So
you now, what you do do you figure out like, Okay,
I'm going to come because if you if you pause,
if you put it out there, you know you got
(32:06):
to you got to figure out a way that you're
going to go to a school before you enter the portal.
But then that's not I don't believe that that's by
the rules, that's not legal. You have to enter yourself
into the transfer portal, and then that's when you start
to see who wants you and what you can get
value wised out there on the open market. So it's
just it's so many complications to it. It's unnecessary and
(32:30):
in some of these cases, in some of these instances,
it would be alleviated with more regulations and rules to
guide it and manage it. But again, I don't see
there being a solution that really really stabilizes what's going
on anytime soon. And we listen to who's the writer
(32:51):
from the Athletic that we had on the other day,
Bruce listening to Feltman talk about what what these schools
are facing and how things are are unfolding because there's
so many like this is like really really damning. There
are so many different interpretations of the rules or what
(33:12):
NIL represents, what the collectives represent, how the money is
being divvied up, this the revenue share versus ANIL. There
are so many different interpretations Who are you going to
say is right? Who are you going to say is wrong?
If this school over here says this is how we
interpret it and this is how we're going to do it.
(33:33):
Like you said, who's reporting it, who's saying you're breaking
the rules? How is that being managed? How is that
being governed? It's just there's so many there's so many holes,
there's such a large gray area and what's taking place
that you know, it's just hard to it's hard to
assume that there's going to be a fear playing field
(33:55):
or a safe market, an established market at the college
level anytime soon, in unforeseeable future, I.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Mean, meanwhile, Buried underneath all this is the fact that
the college football season kicks off in about five weeks,
five and a half weeks, six weeks, something.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Like that, like fifty days right around, right around the corner.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
And still trying to figure all this other mess out.
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(34:39):
deserving for maybe the greatest of all time. Find out
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Speaker 1 (35:00):
What's she laugh at at?
Speaker 3 (35:01):
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with the hair coming on top
of next hour a little over ten minutes from now,
we are going to get to the bottom of a
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the NFL season. Right around the corner, that'll be yours
here again a little over ten minutes from now, But
it is time to hand out an award here on
(35:23):
this show. We call this our Express Pros Pro of
the Week, and the Pro of the Week goes to
none other than the greatest of all time. But here he.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
Stands quiet, of talking, still of motion, content of wearing
shy of a god, perhaps.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
But more than a man.
Speaker 8 (35:49):
With seventy point five hot dogs and buns in ten minutes.
So Nathan's famous fourth of July Champion of the World.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Joey Chestnut. There it is, baby, courtesy of ESPN. I
am starting to believe congratulations to the Glizzy Glutton himself,
none other than Joey Chestnut.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Not a fan of your social media following group, but
one of them said, you're obsessed with Joey Testnut, and
I'm starting to believe that they're correct.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Well, who else we given the Express pros Pro the
Week award too?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
I mean, not a Glizzy Stuffer.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
I mean, I don't know, George Springer of the Blue Jays.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I mean there's I don't know. I give it to
a weather man before I.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Get yeah, what about that one right there?
Speaker 4 (36:47):
Exactly?
Speaker 3 (36:50):
You? I understand that. How is the uh oh though?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
What your obsession is with Joey Chestnut?
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Man?
Speaker 3 (36:57):
The guy just shoveled seventy and a half hot dogs
in his mouth in ten minutes. He should be the
Express pros Pro the Week. I mean, who else? You're
the one telling us that he's an athlete?
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I said, by definition of what an athlete is, he's
considered that doesn't mean that we have to cover him.
We cover him more. He's probably lately second place to
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Wait, you think Joey Chestnuts second.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Aaron Rodgers in your coverage of him?
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (37:27):
Like listen, man, you and Lee are infatuated and obsessed
with this dude.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Man.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
I heard he was on the station not too long ago.
I heard he did an interview was the shows?
Speaker 4 (37:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
I didn't hear it, but I do know this. Joey Chestnut. Congratulations,
you are the Express Pros pro the week. So are
you ready for a new job? Let's employment professionals help
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(38:01):
if we go to expresspros dot com. Congratulations Joey chest Nut.
Now he disappears for another year. I think there's some
other events that pop up. Wing eating contest.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Go drink some goat milk Malayas. I wonder how he
gets it no kitting, Does he get it in the
cartn or does he just get it straight from straight
from the source and steivemind his back?
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Dang, that's disgusting.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Do you really?
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeahali, why do I hear some other records. He holds.
Speaker 9 (38:45):
Two chicken wings in thirty minutes, thirty fish tacos in
five one hundred and twenty one tweakies, and six dang,
one hundred and forty one hard boiled eggs, and eight
that is fricking one.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Hundred and forty one hard boiled eggs in eight minutes.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Yeah, I wonder does he puts salt and pepper on
him as he's eating time?
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Do you know how bad his gas must be after
that many hard boiled eggs.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
It has to smell like the worst. That has to
be the worst smell ever.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Oh no, you could use his underwear as part of
a drone strike. Dang, he is filthy. Eh, just drop
his drawl, that's all you need.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Drop the chestnuts all you need.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Just just hear bodies dropping, right, that's all you need.
One and forty hard boiled eggs.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
That's crazy, Man, chicken will make your your belly hurt too, Man,
Too much chicken, some fried chicken, I'd get you going. Man,
you don't want that. Eighty one mutton sandwiches in ten minutes.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
What is a mutton sandwich? It's a sham sheet.
Speaker 9 (40:02):
Meet twenty pounds of shrimp cocktail.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
He's disgusting, Joey Chess that there's no way you should
be the player of the week. It's disgusting what you do.
I mean, I hate that you get rewarded and all
this attention for doing disgusting, revolting things. I mean, there's.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Nobody, nobody better in the history of the quote unquote sport.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Disgusting it to mean, name another sport where you talk
about the things that you accomplished and it's freaking disgusting. Oh,
we are hungry, and we are hungry for more.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
He's our player of the Week, Express pros Pro the Week.
He sucks damn down, hot Dog. That is the Glizzi
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