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October 23, 2025 39 mins

The guys react to Joe Flacco delivering the greatest piece of truth in recent press conference history. The mess with Aaron Glenn's New York Jets continues to get worse. Plus, the guys celebrate Shohei Ohtani's all-time great performance.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:39):
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Speaker 2 (00:54):
Now, is this the white stripes?

Speaker 1 (00:57):
The white stripes? Yeah, no, it's not the white stripes?
It is not the white stripes? Is wolf Mother? Wolf Mother,
Joker and the Thief? You know how I took it
off of you know, I took it from somewhere. That's
the uh, that's the pre pre game dip for the

(01:23):
Oregon volleyball team.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
So I liked it. It got me hyped up. And
I was like, you know what, let's go with that. Okay,
that's hey, it's all right. No, listen, I mean I
feel good about it. Not a stripper song, it's not
it's not a stripper song.

Speaker 6 (01:41):
Oh yeah, do you think mine's kind of as though
to pick up the slack there?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Dang, so there's a slack?

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Well well yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
I mean that's so you took a direct shot at
my song. Man.

Speaker 6 (01:56):
You don't need any sense of about it. We just
thought you want a stripper song. Someone someone's gotta carry
carry the water.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Slack because my song, I mean, that song could be
a stripper song.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
It could be too fast paced.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
But I didn't see what I was doing just then,
you know, I I just took a shot at Sean
Payton just so y'all know I wouldn't be sensitive. I
was just kind of shout at job.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, if you're gonna if you're gonna answer my question.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
On the tact, okay, hold on, let me look at you,
Let me look at you here. Now you're gonna let
me see what you're talking about here. Yay, I'm really
going to do this, spin it like a basketball and

(02:52):
to throw it out the room like a Dodgeball.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Harlem Globe Trotters.

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Speaker 1 (03:23):
Is that under the seat or over the top?

Speaker 2 (03:26):
That's that's like in your pocket?

Speaker 1 (03:29):
In your pocket?

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah all right, yeah, you get a fanny pack that
that'll fit nicely in there.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
That is crazy.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Fanny packs are back, man, they are, except they wear
them over the shoulder.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Now, oh yeah, yeah they do. But some people still
wear them over there, you know, you.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Think that's how men wear them.

Speaker 7 (03:50):
Some of them they got like that cool shoulder strap
thing going on because women I.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Went through, But that was like three four years ago.
Like that's still in style though, Yeah, I see some
people doing that.

Speaker 6 (04:03):
But are you a growing ass man still going through phases?
Like I feel like when you get to a certain
point as a man, you just like sail off into
the sunset.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
You know you are what you are.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
Yeah, you just kind of like like you're not worried
about fashion trends and stuff.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
You just you wear what's comfortable. You know.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
No, I go with fashion.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
I go.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
I try to. I try to maintain my own little style,
my own little sense of fashion.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Why not Outlet Let me sit, Let me set this
one out.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
You Where are you going?

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Like?

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Where men? Where the real men live.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
I didn't say that.

Speaker 6 (04:42):
I'm just saying I'm not the type of dude whos
worried about fashion trends.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Okay, you look like you'd be so stylish. Brady, he
is stylish.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
No, he is not at all.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
He wears like you know, Brooks Brothers suits and.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Because okay, you always have style to you, right, you
have like this.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Whole I want the white guy Alf.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
Only wear his workout clothes like he always has his
little studios and I.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Look like above me in studio.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Jonas just wears all black go out. It's all he wears.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, I'm black on blacker to match.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
Yeah, and then he then he'll be like I got
this at Ross dress for less, which, by the way,
I don't know anyone else who calls it Ross dress
for less said Ross. He'll say I got this. I
got this at Ross for like fourteen ninety nine.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
That's what like my.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Wife would say, I haven't seen it.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Not good.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
I've never worn him.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Haven't seen him.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Were I like him? I just I've never worn him.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
That's crazy. Man.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
What's that shoe you wear that's ten and a half
or those maybe eleven? I don't remember, but probably there's
always Uh.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
I wish you got a little feet, bro, I must
say six.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
You're a little foot type dude.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
You know what that means?

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Yeah, you a little foot. They call you little foot.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
That's right, amongst other things. Well, it's also I have
a I've seen different ways that people tie their Jordans,
and there's like really elaborate ways they do it, and
so and.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Then you don't even fallen in. You ain't gonna lay.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Them because I saw so many different versions. I'm like,
f this, I'm not this is just there's too.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Much even gonna try it.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, okay, so listen, I'll wear the one day.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
One day.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Eventually, they didn't play my daughter in the match last night.
Speaking of sneakers, Yeah right, so out of protest. I
took my shoes off and had my feet on the court. Now,
how many people can say they had their feet on
U c l A's basketball court like beer.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Foot at U c l A this week? Yeah, last night?

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yes, okay, yesterday? Yeah, like the same court. I'm assuming
that's the same arena that that Wooton coached in and
lou Ause Cinder and ball would would I say Wooten?
That might be Maryland? That might be Maryland's coach. There's
a Wooten. There is a Wooten though.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Wasn't there Corey Wooton? Let me see, was there a
Corey Wooton in the NFL at one point?

Speaker 1 (07:17):
There was? No. I don't know about that, but I
think there's a coach from Maryland. Yeah, yeah, messed it up,
my bad Maryland coach, Maryland legend. So shots up the
Hall of Fame. Yeah yeah, but the manic way Catholic?

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Yeah at you going back?

Speaker 3 (07:37):
How is poly Pavilions? They redone it because he's very
nice place. It's very dump It's very nice, man, it's
very nice. But I had my beer butt feet on
the ground. So until Trent plays my daughter and just
keep when I go to the matches. I'm gonna just
keep pulling my feet out. Next thing, you know, I
might pull something else out. So I hope I don't lose.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
My protesting and that ain't no jail, and that ain't
no jab if y'all know what I mean, suckers, you.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Guys want to hear somebody who speaks to men everywhere?

Speaker 2 (08:13):
All right, this is the one and only just for men.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
The Great Joe Flacco, Cincinnati Bengals Court.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Just amazing who.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
By the way, you know, he was discussing yesterday just
the challenges of being away from his family while he's
still continuing his NFL journey, and he had this to say, I.

Speaker 7 (08:31):
Think there's always a challenge of sitting in a room
by yourself and being lonely. So for me, it's trying
to find ways to maybe stay over here a little
bit longer and then you know, just kind of take
myself out of that mindset, call home, go sit at
a restaurant by myself and realize that, man, that's pretty
enjoyable to do.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
You know.

Speaker 7 (08:52):
After there's not too many situations, I tell you, I
tell people all the time. I mean, I used to
see guys sitting at a bar by themselves, or know,
just sitting by themselves, eating and grabbing a little meal.
And I like, man, I feel so bad for that guy,
like you almost want to go join them. And now
I realize, like that dude was in heaven and and
and not to say that that's that's obviously not what

(09:15):
I want.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
I'd rather.

Speaker 7 (09:16):
I'd rather be at home, sitting at the dinner table
with my kids and hearing what the hell they were
talking about all day. But there are but but if
you but if you have to do it, then you
might as well take advantage of it, so, you know,
just little things like that.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
I mean, he's not wrong.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
He's not the most relatable thing that you'll hear from
a quarterback. Dude.

Speaker 6 (09:39):
I love this verson Joe Flacco, Like I just I
love everything he's done this year, just how he's played
to in the spots that he's been given.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
It's just it's awesome. It's awesome, man.

Speaker 6 (09:51):
But damn, and then there's that barefoot that that parent
that no coach One's band.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
I'm crash it out right now by bad, don't mind
be bad?

Speaker 4 (10:05):
Yeah, but uh, in.

Speaker 6 (10:06):
All seriousness, though, like if you if you've ever been
in that position, which you know, I played for some
teams where it was kind of like that where you're
away from your at a time fiance wife or nowadays
like now I travel all the time and I've got
five kids, So there is that moment where you're like,
you just want to sit down and have a nice
meal by yourself.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
It's it's kind of okay to admit that. You know,
you know, it doesn't happen very often.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
You know, when it hits the hardest and you're like, man,
this is amazing. Is when the bill comes out, that
check comes out, you're sitting by yourself and you're like,
holy Mary mother, like are we being serious right now?
Like did you bring me to write check? And then
you got to look around yourself and you realize, wow,

(10:54):
I'm only paying for myself. Yeah, that's it, that's all
I gotta car. Wait, so you're saying this meal is
only this much? Then I feel guilty, Like I feel
guilty when I get the check. When do you ever
get a check where you can sit there and say, huh,
like I could pull some pocket money out, some cash

(11:18):
out of my pocket and pay for this.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
I'm fake cash in years.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Dang, but that's only when you buy yourself because some way, somehow,
like it's the craziest thing. I don't want to put
nobody on blast church. But the craziest thing is like
the type of drinks they order, because that's where they
get you. You know, that's where they get you. And
you'll hear something real slick like yeah, I'll take that,

(11:42):
give me a double of that. Okay, yep, this and that,
and then you realize when you get that check, that
double went from twenty some dollars to forty some dollars
on this short ass glass of top shelf liquor. And
there you go. Now try that three four times, he said.

(12:07):
They're like, wait, I thought I thought the steak was
going to be what what hurts you? You know? And
then you see the line items of what made your
bill like five hundred dollars and you're like, oh, oh,
it's the liquor.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
You know.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
You know, some people will say, like, what's the best
beers at the airport? Beers at this beer that, like,
you know, the people have those discussions all the time.
It's the cheapest beer, now you know what the best
one is? Which one the to go? Food, beer, order
some food to go, I'll go pick it up, and
you buzz the tower and then head on back home.
That's the one, all right, because that's.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
Peace and quiet.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
You're getting dinner for the fam, you got one for
the road, and then you're back home before you enter
into the world a chaos.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
But you have like uber eats and all that stuff.

Speaker 6 (12:56):
Now, yeah, but yeah, but the issue with that is,
to Jonas's point, depending on the restaurant where you're getting
that beer from, you'll probably save a little bit on
the delivery charge, the strategy, everything else that comes along
with it.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
That's true, even with the beer. So there is that like,
I need to do that more.

Speaker 6 (13:12):
I always like, we always kind of resort to that
usually because you're like wrangling one of many.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
But I really needed to start just going to pick
up the food more.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
I go on, I go on the stand for interrogation,
cross examination, and yeah, I gotta testify. Raise your hand.
Do you swear to tell the truth, nothing but the truth,
the whole truth? So help you got So you're going
to go pick up the food. Why is it that
you want to leave to go pick up the food?

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Damn?

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Maybe because it's cheaper, is not. That's not going to
move some needles.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
My favorite, some of the delivery charges are outrageous, Like
there really are.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
That's not that's not going to move the needle over here,
Like that's not. It's not a good enough reason over here.
Really no, it's not good enough reason. Like if you're
saying like like no, it's like, nah, that ain't good
enough reason. Nah, you're gonna take that charge, and you're
gonna sit your ass down and and and you're gonna
go pick up them boxes from outside of of you know,

(14:16):
the house, when they when they arrives or when the
food gets here. The food is getting here, go get
the food, like you go pick it up there and
then you can have a beer when you get back,
you know. So it's all good.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yeah, I don't know Joe Flacco though, family's in town
this weekend?

Speaker 1 (14:34):
Are they?

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:34):
So, actually, you know what, I'm curious, So because he
did mention that they're gonna be in town this weekend,
So would you is he more or less likely to
have a good game with his family in town because
the way he makes it, you know, he loves his family,
he loves being there with him. But you know you
can focus a little bit more when the family's not around.
So let me just go ahead and I'm gonna get
on DraftKings here and find a find the line for

(14:56):
the Bengals this week.

Speaker 6 (14:57):
I think it's six and a half, which if I'm not,
I'm mistaken, all right, because they played the Jets.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (15:04):
I believe so.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
Yeah, it's it's a.

Speaker 6 (15:07):
Pretty damning thing in a number of ways if you're
the Jets and you were a six and a half point.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
Underdog last time.

Speaker 6 (15:15):
I looked to a quarterback who just got there like
two weeks ago, like to a team, by the way,
who you know, outside of his play, there really hasn't
been much of a glimmer of hope until that.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah, because they were looking bad. Yeah, they were looking
bad all the way. Yeah, until he got there. They
were looking bad. And that's why was taking it so hard, man, Mike.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
You're the New York Jets.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
You're playing a team that, I forget the record, I
believe Bengals still have a losing record, but you're playing
against a team that has a quarterback that just got there,
just got there, and you're an almost touchdown underdog.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
A former Jets former Jet himself, also a guy that
could have signed this offseason.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
By the way, he's a free agent, so it is
six and a half. Yeah, I'm not trusting the Jets.
I bet the Jets last that was awful. But man,
all of a sudden, the Bengals just that seems dangerous
and and there he's going to keep him afloat for
just long enough that they could make some noise and
potentially be a problem in the postseason. Like that, that

(16:28):
could actually happen for the Cincinnati Bengals, even with all
their even with all their crap and all the stuff
that's gone on there, they could they could still be
making noise there.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
I don't know about Baltimore. Baltimore feels like, you know.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
They've they've got a longer way to go and the
injuries are more of an issue for them. But Lamar
is supposed to be getting back this week potentially.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Maybe.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
There was also some video floating around of Lamar Jackson
buying street food in Baltimore and it looked like he
was time traveling high, like blazed out of his mind.
So you know, people, people, why are you judging him?
I'm not listen, people, rehab their injuries in different ways.
I guess you know, if that's what he wants to do,

(17:09):
that's what.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Do you want to that's better than an opioid?

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, I would agree.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Man.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
All right, yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Just toke it up?

Speaker 4 (17:19):
Is that? What is that what you're you're sing? This
your Uh?

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, I'm no pill popper, bro, I've never been a
pill popper. I've never been to that, never been. No,
I don't want to do that. You don't want to
get caught up into the pill popping. I'm not a
bong type. I'm not a bong type of guy either,
you know what I mean. I'm an old school like,

(17:44):
I'm a cocoa leaf type dude. Man, I pull out
that big ass leaf, you know, the big one, Yeah,
big one. I'm gonna send you all some of my work.
I've showed you my work before. Jonas. Yeah, he did
like straight rosta bush style, you know, back to back
to the origin, back to the roots. You know, people

(18:06):
don't know that, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
It looks like one of those yellow wiffleball bats that
you buy it like Walgreens with the plastic whiffle ball
on the top.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Stupid anyway, good for you, lamar, And I'm glad we're
I'm glad we're at a point in life where we
can actually say it and and not have to feel,
you know, bad about saying it. Man, don't don't get
on them opioids. They they because they'll they'll give you
that uh, they'll give you that false sense of hope
and security. You know. Only time I pop is when

(18:44):
when that gat danged gout start running my way. Now,
I don't mess around with that, man, that that thing
start start creeping in. You got to take action. Hey,
By the way, I'm a pop uppial on that. It's
been a while, right.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, that issue.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah. Also the knee doppler, it's starting to chill out
a little bit here.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Man. Every single time, every single time it was raining,
my knee was at You ain't see me limping into
the the studio, limping like.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Crazy for people. Uh.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Oh god, double don't work.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
Oh gosh, so I got into it one more time,
one more time.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Please my doubler don't work.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Oh my gosh, god, I miss him. I miss bird Soft.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Oh don't worry. He uh he drinks heavily during Dodgers games.

Speaker 6 (19:31):
And uh, well, can you imagine him though, the dichotomy
between his Raiders fandom and the Dodgers right now, just
like the contrast would be awesome.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
By the way, nobody hurt more on a Monday morning
during football season than Burdo because he would go to
a Raiders bar during the day, he would drink a
picture of beer to himself, and then he would take
a nap. He would come in to work that night.
The Raiders would have gotten their ass beat, and he
was miserable.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
He also got his ass beat, is what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Yeah, oh yeah, he was. Damn yeah it was. It
was all out of sorts. But you know, love Burdo though.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
Yeah. The difference was he to do it during the week.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, oh wow, oh wow.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
True, There's always that.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
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Speaker 1 (21:33):
Top of the World, Top of the World, Sitting on
top of the world, Top of the World.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yearde, you're unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Come hang with your boy sometimes.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
I couldn't you know?

Speaker 1 (21:55):
You heard Ce talking about Russ Like before long, we're
gonna start talking bad about you, man, Like you know
you're too good, Like you you're the overachiever. You know
you know you got to come hang out, man, you know,
go out with the lineman.

Speaker 4 (22:08):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (22:09):
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Speaker 2 (22:50):
That is impressive. That's that's something.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Yeah, bro, brain cells left after that thing's done.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Oh no, you'll be fine. You'll be fine.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
No, no, man, believe me.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
That's just how we do it.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
You know, that's one way.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Just relax, just just you know, you just got to relax, man,
you know, enjoy, enjoy your day. Enjoy the day, you
know what I mean, takes away the pain.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
You know, probably take away some of the pain for
Jets fans.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
No, it wasn't that day. And enough weed in the
world still Jets fans to numb that pain. No way.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
So the Jets, there was some speculation about who is
going to be named starting quarterback for the Jets, and
it was going to be to Rod Taylor. Justin Field
is going to be benched. And then Aaron Glenn was
talking yesterday with the media and they're asking him about
the quarterback situation in New York and it sounded like this.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
We will have a quarterback on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
I will tell you that.

Speaker 4 (23:58):
I wouldn't want to give them a repetitive advantage when
I have that.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Opportunity, but we would have a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Did you your list is long?

Speaker 10 (24:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (24:07):
You day to day?

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yes, what does he dealing?

Speaker 4 (24:10):
He's dealing a need.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
There's something that he had before. So just you know
who you're starting quarterback is going to be.

Speaker 7 (24:17):
You're just not announcing it.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
So it isn't like this week as a competition.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Where you're going to have and I know, the Star
Quarters movie.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
So it's going to be tyrod Taylor. Well, but he
gives him a competitive advantage according to Aaron Glenn by
not announcing who the quarterback is.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
And then there was this report from Pro Football Talk
because it feels like the fingers are already starting to
point that according to according to Pro Football Talk and
their sources, apparently there was a difference of opinion as
to who did and didn't want Aaron Rodgers as their

(24:56):
quarterback GM Darren Moogie w wanted to keep Rogers, I
bet he did, and Aaron Glenn wanted to move on.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
So we're already starting down the road of that was
his decision, not mine, and people are looking for life preservers.
It feels like with the Jets and they've been there
what two months seasons? What two months old? Less than
two months? So away we go with your New York Jets.
Who's New York Jets? Go ahead, cute, you got that

(25:26):
you play.

Speaker 6 (25:27):
I was just gonna say, like, this is a dysfunction
at its highest point, and unfortunately, like here's the hard.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Part about.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
The job of Woody Johnson. In this instance, you know
what you and you're an owner.

Speaker 6 (25:43):
There's a trickle down effect where when when adversity hits,
and it always hits, even at the best organizations, adversity
strikes in some fashion or form. You know, even if
you wanted to include the Kansas City Chiefs, you know
they've had a ton of success, So what is the
adversity that they face. Well, it's now dealing with, you know,
outside of football, the fame that comes along with that.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
You know, you've got a tight end.

Speaker 6 (26:06):
Who's dating you know, Taylor Swift, You've got all these
celebrities that are part of it.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
You're gonna lose coaches or you're gonna have turnover on
your staff.

Speaker 6 (26:13):
You're gonna have turnover on your roster at times too,
because you know, with this success comes everyone feeling like
they're better than they actually are, and they want to
get compensated and paid for it, and the team probably
can't keep all of them. So you know, there's all
sorts of things that come along with this. On the
other side is when you know you are a team
that just cannot put together any wins, you have no

(26:34):
success whatsoever. It's dealing with the failure, in dealing with
the constant you know, reminder of that, and the hardest
part is in either case, like you still have to
kind of stay the course, put on your ear muffs,
put on your blinders, and find a way of buying
into whoever it is that you made a decision to

(26:55):
hire as your head coach and you made a decision
to hire as your general manager, Like if you are
Woody Johnson and as bad as this season looks, and
you fire Aaron Glenn, which is what I believe this
whole you know, conversation's about right now, because ultimately, after
one year, when you don't see the results that there's

(27:16):
any progress, and we have not seen anything from the
Jets so far this year, which with mind you a
talented roster, or at least some talent on that roster.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
You pointed the coach. You say you had seventeen opportunities
and had no point that this team improve.

Speaker 6 (27:31):
That's where this is headed, and that's why you hear
these reports because you've got a general manager that wants
to survive past a year. And the hardest thing is
for an owner like Woody Johnson, is at some point
you have to stay the course. You have to give
this coach a chance. He has no chance if you're

(27:53):
asking him to fix what has been wrong for a
long time, since what two thousand when he bought the
team with a few instances here and there where it
wasn't the case. He can't fix it in a year
you signed you know, a quarterback in Justin Fields who
you knew was a question mark in ways and still

(28:15):
needed some development.

Speaker 4 (28:18):
Like is any of this surprising?

Speaker 6 (28:21):
Like I look at this and I just say, if
this is where this is going, Like if I'm Whatdy
Johnson right now, I walk down and I put together
a meeting between Aaron Glenn, Darren Moogie whoever else that
you feel like are the main decision makers to say
none of this BS is happening, We're not leaking stuff.

(28:41):
I'm sticking with you guys. You're safe this year, you're
safe next year, You're safe the next year, and then
we'll reevaluate. And so at least they have a timeline
instead of like allowing everything to kind of be up
in the air all the time and the owner to
sit there and allow this stuff to happen where you're

(29:01):
already creating fractures in a divide like it just it's
a recipe for disaster, and he's the only one that
can fix this, there's no one else because it's only
gonna get worse if they keep losing games. It's only
gonna get worse. Everyone's gonna start looking for life wrass,
life jackets, and they're jumping off the boat to save themselves.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
When you hear about the Detroit lines right now, the
overarching message that you hear is a Dan Campbell message.
The culture that you see playing out with this team
is a Dan Campbell culture. Well, the reason why I

(29:45):
bring him up, Aaron Glenn comes from that coaching tree.
Aaron Glenn came from Detroit to take over the New
York Jets. Dan Campbell in his first year. If by
records we're talking about a one and done year, Dan
Campbell won three games his first year.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
There three games.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
And so, to me, when you're looking at situations that
you've already seen failure year and year out, year after
year after year, the disappointment of what's taking place, you
really should look at it at the To me, from

(30:32):
a lens of if we continue to keep changing the
people around, we are going to continue to get the
same results. You can't move in the definition of insanity
doing the same exact things. Thinking you're going to get
a different result. You can't do it so with someone

(30:54):
like whoever it is, whether it was Robert Salah, whether
it now is airin Glenn, if you're the New York Jets.
The the ultimate challenge is is that whoever it is
that you hire, you have to give them enough time
to allow that culture to be built. You gotta allow

(31:19):
the trust and the belief, all those things that you
know Q is mentioning in his in his his points,
those things have to be present and it has to
have time. Like name me one seed that grows the
moment you planted, Like maybe there are some I don't know,

(31:41):
but I don't know of anything. It takes time. And
not only does it take time, but imagine if it's
you're you're looking for this this planted seed to bear fruit,
it takes time, It takes care, it takes you know,
a lot of people they talk to their plants and
stuff like that, like people that have green dumbs. They'll
tell you, like the whole entire process of what it

(32:03):
takes to raise healthy, healthy fruit and produce bearing plants
and trees and stuff like that. Sometimes it takes years
for a fruit to be produced. And that's a lot
like coaching. That's a lot like building a winning culture
and building a winning team. You can't expect instinct grits

(32:26):
if you want them to be good. And some of
them are really good. Though you put a lot of
butter and some sold on it. Some people like sugar
in their grits. But anyway, I'm just saying, it takes time, man,
It takes time, and if you're not. The thing about
it is is that the culture that's been created because
I again, I lived in it. I lived in bad culture,

(32:49):
I lived in arrogant like I'm good, like I'm the
best culture. I lived in it. And it goes through
the whole entire fan base, it goes, it's everywhere. When
you have that type of culture, if it is not
gutted out from the root of the issue and rectified
at the root, that culture still continues to have a

(33:13):
very very strong undercurrent. And that undercurrent a lot of
times can be worse than when it's just right blatantly
in your face, because then you're confused. It's like, Okay,
before I knew this was bad because of X, Y
and Z. But when you act as though you have
addressed it, and you you've rectified it and we're moving

(33:35):
on from it, but it's still there. Then people get
even more confused because they can't even identify why things
aren't going right. And then next thing you know, then
it goes back to being right back in your face.
It's like a vicious cycle that plays out in corrupt, corrosive, bad,
bad culture. So if you don't give a coach an

(33:57):
opportunity and a fear opportunity, which a fair opportunity is
removing yourself from the situation. If you're saying you're hugging
Aaron Glenn and you trust Aaron Glenn and he's a
former player, and it's the quarterback that's the problem, and
this and that and the other, then get the hell
out of in front of the media. Stop talking to

(34:18):
the media about what's going on or what you think
is the problem. Remove yourself from having contact that way
with the organization, not just the coach and the player,
because that's what makes it horrible culture, is that you
think it's just leave the coach alone, just leave the
team alone. But it's messing with the people that work

(34:39):
at the front desk, it's messing with the people that
are in sales, it's messing with the people that are
in pr it's messing with the people that are in scouting.
It's all of it. And if you don't correct that
and remove yourself from it, where whatever it is that
has been built through the time is rectified and corrected
and heal up, then you're going to continue to have

(35:02):
the same exact results because you have successfully created a culture.
It just isn't a winning one.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
You mentioned you know, you got a planet and let
it grow like bad soil, good luck ain't happening. It's
not going to happen how many times? And the other
thing I was thinking about with the Jets, has there
ever been a time where you've heard the words, yeah,
we're going to tear it down and rebuild it, like
you never really hear that With the Jets, it's just assumed, like,

(35:31):
which means the plan is we're going to be competitive
and this might be our year. But there's never a hey, look,
we all know what's going on here. We're looking towards
next year like the Saints, like everybody knows the deal,
Like we know what's going on with the Saints, we
know how this whole thing is going to go. The
Jets almost give you this illusion that no, no, no, we're
a real franchise that should be reckoned with, like we

(35:52):
look at all this talent we've got, look at the
you know, we're signing Garrett Wilson to a deal, Sauce
Gardner gets a deal, Like, no, no, we're a real
franchise and they're the worst team in the league again,
literally every time, and there's one common denominator, it's Woody
Johnson the entire time. Nobody's gonna turn that thing around
there with him as the owner, just doesn't feel like
it's gonna happen no matter how spicy things get there.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Tell you that.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah, speaking of spicy, I mean, hey, throw some Louisiana
Hot sauce, that original Louisiana Hot. It's the perfect balance
of peppers, vinegar and salt, and wings, nachos, burgers, you
could put it on all of those things. Hit any
tailgate food with that bold, handcrafted flavor of the original
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(38:01):
coming up tomorrow night. Are you guys heavily interested in
the World Series or did the Blue Jays getting in
kind of diminish some of that were you home?

Speaker 4 (38:08):
No, I'm still interested. You know.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
It's it's almost like a David and Goliath scenario, right, So,
I know, during the course of the regular season, the
Blue Jays were probably equally as good as the Dodgers
when I was all said and done, But you look
at the payrolls and all that.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
I just I don't know.

Speaker 6 (38:24):
I'm kind of I'm not rooting for the Blue Jays,
but I am curious to see if they can make
it a series, because everyone makes it feel like it's
going to be done in four or five games.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
You know.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
One of the reasons the Blue Jays have home field
is because they actually played during the regular season and
the Dodgers' bullpen gagged away a game late and the
difference of that was that game was that And that's
why they're starting because because what.

Speaker 6 (38:49):
The Dodgers won what like ninety three games, and I
think the Blue Jays won ninety four.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Yeah, it was like a game less So it was
literally that game that determined that this is this is
what home is going to look like.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
So the Dodgers are going to go take over their trap.
It doesn't matter. It is going to be over pretty quickly.
I don't see there being an upset in this series.
Dodgers playing too well. Man.

Speaker 6 (39:10):
Can they get the seven though? If you can't get
the game seven, I hope it's fun to see game seven.

Speaker 4 (39:15):
So I don't care what.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
I don't see that happening. Yeah, problem watch, I'll watch
while it's still you know, yeah exciting, one of those big.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
Chiepa things lay.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah,
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