October 7, 2025 • 39 mins
The guys explain why preseason rankings in college football are totally pointless after Texas & other teams are off to a slow start + the guys continue their ongoing conversation on Cardinals RB Emari Demercado’s embarrassing drop.
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To say thank you. Just disarm you right there, he did.
Dang it. I always worried about my guys. Man. Life
is a uh it's a crazy thing.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Man.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
I think the older you get, the more you realize,
like both ends of it, like how fragile it is,
but at the.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Same time how resilient people can be.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
It's ah, it's tough, but you know, not thinking off
on a tangent, but you just you never know sometimes
why people make decisions. And I think in today's world
it's tough because you know, you can do one thing
wrong and that's how people remember you, or that's how
people you know, or especially the.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Young generation, because all they.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Do is look at their phone, you know, and so
they'll see one thing and they're like, oh, you know,
he's that guy this.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
What do you mean? Well, like I think about think about.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Dave Portnoy, who's you know, built a incredible company in barstool,
sold it for a bunch of money. And then when
we travel around, you know, people will say they're like.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Hey, hey, pizza guy, I get a picture pizza guy.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
I'm like the guy you're calling a pizza guy? Like okay,
it's like that sound like the young kids like, well,
like not all of them know was Dave Portnoy. That's
kind of crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I thought you were thinking of something. Yeah, I know
you thought it was going on there and.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
It made so much sense for it to kind of
because it really does take an entire lifetime to build
a reputation. In a matter of a moment, you could
ruin the whole thing. What are you talking about, I'm
just talking about like like he's talking about life in
general and perceptions and things and how things happen.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
I mean, the hard part is it's easier. It's a
tarnish it now than ever before. It really is. It
really is, man, it's dangerous out here.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I tell my son that all the time, and my daughters, well,
I tell both my sons that you gotta tell your kids,
like your kids have to be so aware of the
fact that that exists.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
It is so easy to tarnish yourself these days. It's
super easy and it's quick and it could really really
cost you. So you got to be like super vigilant.
You gotta be super aware, more so than you ever
have been. And it's kind of it's interesting because you
don't get you don't get that type of runway to
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learn in life the way that you you know when
I was a kid, You don't you don't have those
those simplicities of you know, something happens, you you lock
it up and then the school yard. By the end
of the day, you might be friends. By the end
of the day, you might not be friends, but at
least you know where you staying with one another. You know,
everything goes the way is going to go, Like everything
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is so different now that would have been on social media.
Then here comes somebody's mom and now they're suing, and
then now the school has to do this, and then
now here comes the news and this that it's it's
so crazy how lightning fast content and and how desensitized
we are. Like it used to be a thing to
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see a person basically not robed and on television and
that was like, oh, like they took their clothes off. Yeah,
and you wasn't even fully button naked. It was like, oh,
you can see he's got his boxers.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
On her, she's got a brawl like and that was like, huh.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Now you could just see people getting killed like hey,
sensitive sensitive material. Here da da da hit the button,
like you see people getting capped on on Like it's
so crazy, how how how bad this content is that
these kids are are really I'm on a you know,
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it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
You don't even have to be looking for it. Just
like I was watching like something on on X and
it was like a press conference or something like that,
and all of a sudden, like it automatically went to
another one and it was some guy with his hands
tied behind his back jumping off a freeway overpass.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Not to mention, how why why is this here?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You got full out triple X on on X now.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Too, like full out like nothing left to the imagination.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
You you't even got to leave your social channels. That
It's wow, man, And and and what's crazy is is
that these kids have access to all of that filth
just like an adult does. An adult can't handle that
filth properly, let alone a child.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
That's what it's.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
So it's we live in a different world, man, We
definitely live in a different different place these days.
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Speaker 3 (06:21):
So Texas has been a little bit underwhelming based on
preseason rankings and exactly how things have gone for them,
and Arch Manning and Steve Sarkisian is talking about it,
and so the latest was Steve Sarkisian being asked about
his thoughts and his surprise at where Texas is at.
Let's take it.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Listen, Steve, you haven't live in either of your games
against powerfoar teams, and I'm just curious how so many people,
including myself could be wrong about your team and how
stunned are you know?
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I don't know if I'm stunned.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
I mean, take the other how many teams are there
in college football one hundred and thirty thirty six, Take
the other one hundred and thirty five and have them
go play out Ohio State and at the Swamp and
see how they do.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, still doesn't change the fact that they're underwhelming based.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
On like It goes back to like who if you
beat you know? And I think that's gonna be the
hard part for both Texas. You could say Penn State, whoever.
You know, they got some big games in their schedule that
they can still change the perception of them. And if
we've learned anything about this college football season is you
can throw rankings, you can throw records out the window.
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When these teams square off. You know, there's so much
more parody. The way transfer portal has completely changed. Rosters
were like and again not to keep going back to
UCLA Penn State, but if niko Imliava isn't quarterback for Ucla,
they don't win that game. Like people want to give
Cheerry Newhizel credit for the play calling, nikom Alvas.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Running around, you know with it like.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
His head cut off half the time, no bowl, Yeah,
that wasn't It wasn't like offensive scheme, game planning. There
were some things, but like you don't need to make
it more than what it is. And that's the truth
of the matter is you've got a bunch of teams now,
who have you know, more talented players, And the concentration
of talent isn't just at Alabama and Georgia and Ohio
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stay in these other schools. Guys want to go play elsewhere.
So what do they do? They go find that opportunity.
Jackson Arnold at Auburn, for example, you know, he's a
quarterback that gives Auburn a shot This weekend hosting Georgia
tough place to play. You know, Gunner Stockton has taken
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over for Carson Beck. You know, Georgia fans moved off
from Beck because he didn't play great last year. The
realities he's playing was one of the best quarterbacks in
college football right now. Yes, you don't think Georgia wishes
they would have had something like that back there throwing
the football.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
You know.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
So there's all these different you know, teams and you know,
scenarios we can play out. But man, that I can't
recall another time where I saw more parody in college
football and thought like, yeah, like I I Indiana, Orgon
Oregan's laying seven and a half, I don't know, don't know,
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don't know who's gonna show up, you know what it
is until they're not right. Until the only thing I'll
say about that is, uh, just go go look.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
At their home road splits. You know for Indiana, there's
a little something there, but just going to hit the
mute button real.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yeah, no, No, I'm just saying like, uh, you know,
maybe there's a little something there for Indiana and their success,
But the general point is, if you're Steve Sarkesian, yes,
those are tough places to go play. No doubt, you
had sky high expectations for a roster that's loaded, and
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there has hasn't been anything that's come to fruition. And
in defense of James Franklin, you know who's got an
awful record versus top.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Ten teams, Steve Sark. Easy, go look that up.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
So I don't know why James Franklin gets all the
blame and hate for his record verse top teams. Go
look at Sarks. Go look at Sarks, and somehow he
flies under the radar.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
All I know is college football is an interesting landscape.
It's it's full of turbulence, but there's there's also an
entertainment factor that I truly, truly have enjoyed this year.
Like I don't know, man, Like when you watch things,
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I want to feel emotions when I'm being entertained, and
at the end of the day, sports is entertainment. So
it's no different than when I watched Land.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Man.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I want to be entertained. I want to have a
good plot. I want to have a good storyline. I
want to have a really really defined problem that needs
a solution and a climax and then a you know,
conclusion to it and get out of there. And college
football has been delivering that every weekend. It really has,
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and I've I've really enjoyed it, even to the detriment
of my own team. I mean, the white out weekend
was super, super entertaining. The energy was crazy, and it
was it delivered everything that you could have won it
out of a game outside of the results we wanted
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as Penn Staters, but if you're just watching it, it
was crazy entertaining. And then to turn around and the storyline,
the plot, the plot twist of it all. To walk
into a stadium where it's barely anybody there, barely anybody there,
and you're looking around, You're like, my guy, I can
see why this team struggles. Nobody gives a damn about
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this program. And they win, and they win against the
top ten ten program.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
They win, And I.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Mean we never led, We never led the game versus
a team versus a team that also had never led
up until last week.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Exactly, something's got to give. I Mean, that's just is disheartening.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Is for me as a fan and as an alumni,
the entertainment factor of that, Like if I could remove
my emotions and my bias for a moment. That's an
amazing moment in college football. It doesn't hard.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Been feeling by the way, has it hit you yet
or no? Are you angry yet?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
You know what's crazy? Yesterday I said, I just want
the season to be over.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Oh say that in my mind?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
In my mind emotionally, I was like, I just want
the season to be over like I wanted to, like
I wanted to hit the reset button, like let's run
this back and let's reset it.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
You know what the problem is if you're saying that,
there's players that are thinking of that.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Same Hey bruh, hey brouh.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And I'm on that sideline every game, and I ain't
want to say like, I'm not gonna make their my
emotions their emotions, but I will say the the energy
I felt after that after that clock hit all zeros,
it was like it was like somebody died right in
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front of us like that. The amount of emotion that
like left my body in that moment when we.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Lost to U C. L A.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
It felt like I watched the loved one go to
the next dimension.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
That's how That's how heavy it was on your boys. Art.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I'm say I'm being honest by in hospice bro It
was bad.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
It was bad, all right. So Texas Penn State Clemson one,
two and four preseason ranking, as LeVar would say.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Out of there, out of there.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
So we kind of kicked this around, you know earlier
in the year. What are we doing with the preseason
rankings now? Because I wonder if they didn't exist, for me,
I would still be as interested as I am. But
from the TV standpoint, when you've got a little number
next to a.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Name and made it made it a bigger loss, right.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Well, but a bigger game.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
You're you're a winless team, You're you're zero and four,
you can't seem to get it right, you fire your coach,
bringing in new coaches, and you play a top ten
rated team. There's no possible way that you could come
to the conclusion that there's an upset that's going to
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take place in that game.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
So well, let me ask you this, if they got
rid of the preseason rankings and they didn't have those anymore,
how many weeks into the season before you would then.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
So you'd wait for the college football playoff? Kiming, I
don't think that's I don't think it's a bad idea.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Honestly, I really I also think, like, why can't we
have the committee start like Week three, Week four? You've
seen four games and you don't feel like you can
start to put together a list of what you're thinking
about these teams.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, after seeing what I've seen and experiencing what I've
experienced this year, I don't The only thing that I
would say is I don't know that it's these losses
and wins are as big as they are without a
ranking attached to the game.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
No, you're right, You're right. That would be the only thing.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
That I would say would be a drawback because if nobody,
if I don't know how good you are, then I
don't know how big of a win. I'm not able
to like conceptually say, Okay, okay, this team is a
H and fourteen, but it could be a I know
it might sound crazy, it could be a hell of
an O and four team. It really could possibly be
a really good winless team and they just needed to
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get on track. And you don't want to be the team.
I remember saying that before the game, Like old UCLA
supporter and booster, we were talking at this this tailgate,
he says to me, I'm just here. You know, I
have my tickets for forty years. I don't miss a game.
This is just going to be a horrible day. And
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I was like, you know, it might not be. I mean,
you just never know when a team figures it out,
and for us, we just hope they don't figure it
out today. And maybe they haven't figured it out, but
they figured it out for one afternoon. And so to me,
if there's no rating, I don't really know. I don't
have It's you make the expectation off of their record.
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You don't make the expectation off of how the media
and how the general public views the team. Right, like
your top ten, I believe that you're a really, really
good team. I've already come to the conclusion. If you're
in the top twenty five, I already have come to
the conclusion you're one of the teams that they've chosen.
You're one of the good teams. If you're not, it's like, okay,
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I expect something different. So it's like you already created
that expectation.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Man, this year it has been pretty interesting, at least
for me personally. That whole idea of it's been pretty
interesting because we're not playing like a top ten team
for certain.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Well last week you were. I mean, you know I
thought the week before you didn't. No Man versus Oregon. Yeah,
I don't know, Bro, I don't know. Man. That was
a battle. That was a brawl. I I disagree with that.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I'll just say it didn't feel like we were ever
really until the end of the third quarter, or it
just didn't really feel as competitive as I would have
liked it to felt for me, and that was no.
They did not They did not run away with it,
and it was tied that halftime, and it was a
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low scoring affair. But I mean what played out was
a defense that was worn out because they were on
the field too long, the offense didn't really produce too much,
too many three and outs early on in the game,
and a been but don't break mentality. At some point
the break is coming, and it did come in the
vein of the second second overtime. But all I'm saying
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is is for me, I don't want to feel I
don't want to have the expectation of this is my team.
I'm a fan of this team. They're rated one, two, three,
four five and now I'm seeing them and they don't
play like they're one, two, three, four five. Like, I
don't want to be in that situation. I'm as a fan,
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I'd rather not be in that situation. So leave us
all unrated and earn it.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Do you think we'll get to a place where they
just don't have the rankings at all?
Speaker 4 (19:19):
No, because TV networks will never.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I mean, I just will never let that happen. You're
choking on that flim boy, you gotta get it up
out of there.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
They'll never let that happen. They'll never let that happen. So,
I mean, it is what it is, but they that'll
be they'll never happen.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
And by the way, they were saying there was a
thirty nine thousand and change at the Rose Bowl. You
buying those numbers of bar or? Is that a uh?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I wouldn't buy thirty nine thousand. If I was betting
on the over under on that, I would definitely have
taken the under.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
O you know, Like, do you know is what's bothersome
about that? Even if you're a UCLA fan you only
get so many games a year, or if you're a
whether you season tickets whatever, if you're a fan of UCLA,
you only get so many games a year. You also
don't get a lot of opportunities to see a program
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like penn State in person. And now that they're in
the Big Ten, you're getting all these chances to see
all these these great schools that you never got to
see before. And they're still drawing flies.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Well, i mean your team stinks, yeah, but and it's
not about coming to see your team get throttled by
another team that's come into town to blow up.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
I'm gonna say this, and LeVar is gonna disagree. Football
culturally is not as big in California.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
There are some really good football teams, there's talent. That
doesn't mean culturally it's like, again, LeVar, you have to
think of back to your younger days growing up in Pittsburgh.
Town's shut down, rut down. They everyone where's everyone at
the game of the game. Yeah, literally, Like that's They'll
have signs in the windows of all these towns in Ohio.
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Go to Pennsylvania, it's gone to the game, closed, gone
at the game, Like that's how people still live.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
And most of them teams will get whooped by California
football teams.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
And that's fine, but you're missing the point because we're.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Not talking about you're talking about I know, I know,
I get what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I'm not missing the.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Point like that's why no one got Actually I actually
agree with you. But but what I'm saying is is
that you said I would agree, I would disagree. I'm
saying football, the way football is played here by these
top programs is great.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
It's great. It's really phenomenal. Man. That's it. That's great.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
But that has nothing to do with the fact that
you see they can't draw crowd because people in Pascadia.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
I don't care. I've gone to most people.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
There's people in Cali, there's that's that's everywhere that I'm program.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
That is what I'm saying. The top programs will draw
crowd everywhere in the country.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
You probably had more people a modern day game. It
was it was comparable to how many people were in
the Rose Bowl for that ucd LA games.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Saint John Bosco, them dudes, he's playing.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Like, Okay, name name not a program that's a top program,
Like not the Saint Thomas Aquantas is not the name
your big Bishop Gorman or or you know, South Lake
Carroll in Texas.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
You can name any of those high school programs they have.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
They have college stadiums, you know, the practice stadiums, and.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Then they have a bigger college for their game days.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Like, to me, the biggest misnomer with the West Coast is, oh, yeah,
these big programs like the Blue but people are gonna watch.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
No, they don't, No, they don't like.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
It took Matt Lioner and Reggie Bush to have an
all time era with Pete Carroll for them to be
able to watch, and then after that it's like, well,
we're not going to watch.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
It's not even just college, it's the NFL as well too,
because the NFL left and was out of here for
twenty years they were, and people just develop loyalties to
other franchises. The Cowboys are huge.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
As yes, there is there's other stuff to do.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
But as far as football fans go, the most popular
team in Southern California from an NFL standpoint is the
Raydos Cowboys Radars, and it's not even close, and they've
burned LA multiple times by leaving.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Dallas is close though, CE Dallas is definitely close, like the.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Chargers and Rams. Like you wonder why the Rams are
getting out numbered by Niner fans, and they go there
San Diego.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
San Diego supported their team. They were pretty good. But
this whole LA thing, it is definitely like very transient,
I would say very transient.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
So and I don't and I don't think so far
helped it because I look at so fine, I go,
this is it feels.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
So corporate entertainment.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
But the problem is, y'all, you're kind of missing the
whole concept that I'm trying to get you to understand.
Like high school football lives with people for their entire
life in certain communities, no doubt, Like, it's not that
way in LA. There's the film industry. It's a big
state of all these other things going with things people
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don't care like it's not they live and die by that.
It's the same reason why I can't get people when
I mean, like you guys, oh we understand, Like, no,
you don't like the Ohio State Michigan rivalry. Why that's
so big because people have to live with that crap
for the next two and sixty five days, And it's
hard for people who are not who didn't grow up
in it, who haven't been around it to understand there's
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a natural chip on people's shoulder from Ohio towards people
in Michigan.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
And vice versa.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
That's just how it is, and so it makes for
very entertaining, great rivalies, great matchups. But at the same time,
at lower levels, the intensity for youth football, for high
school football, we're not talking about talent, but the intensity
of it and what it means to the community and
means to that culture is way bigger.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Same thing in the South, same thing in the South,
it means that much more.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
So like that to me plays as big of a
role as anything for who goes and watches Because on
Friday nights when you live in the Midwest, you go
to the football game, you go support, you know, your
local program where your kids are gonna go to school.
That's what you do. The kids go and play, parents
go and watch and support. That's part of the Friday night.
That's that experience. Are they doing that in La hell No?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I was sitting on the beach with my feet into sand,
wondering why am I going home so early to watch
a game?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
That's what I was doing.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, so I kind of fall into that population of
people and I do Sports Talk Radio.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
I mean listen.
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That's a great song. It does matter when you're black
or white, all right, only for touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
That's got to be racist.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Amari Demrcado, who uh dang dropped the ball before he crossed.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
The goal line. It was close in the Arizona card.
By the way, great hustle by Lugerious Snead. We do
acknowledge that. But he didn't have to do anything. It
was go hustle though, but he left. But if he's
not there.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
If he's not there, you know, maybe he I don't know,
Marcardo picks it up or something and figures it out.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
You know, I was thinking about that. I don't think
he was even aware.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
You know, who's the the founding father of this moment,
Leon let Yeah, and Don Beebe got him up top, Brady.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
That's actually though, not even close to this, because the
topic of the conversation is how De Marcado dropped.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
The ball anyway. You know, Don Beebe chased down left,
but he punched it out, yes, entirely out, but he
was holding the ball.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Lagerious would have. Lagerious would have. But De Marcato dropped
the ball before that anyway.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
But he would have scored the touchdown if he hadn't,
like he Snea wouldn't have made it.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
He would have scored. He would have broke the plane.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
He bear it like it was close in terms of
him letting it go and crossing the plane. That was
like like cinimeters or inches, like it was close. I
almost felt like it was a touchdown. Honestly, I almost
felt like he broke the plane before he started letting
the ball go.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I think Ty goes to the to the other guy.
When you make it that close when it didn't need
to be like they just you know, based.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
On they almost they almost got Lloyd last night, but
he held that bad boy tried to punch it out.
One of them receivers caught up to him, tried to
punch it out. Ball security, baby LB. He didn't drop it,
LB drop it and he's black.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
That's right. How about that I'm talking about? Although I
was told like I said, like I said, you differentiated,
No you do you pivoted? No, you you did put
that on me? Hold on, did you put that? You
not co sign that?
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Did you not co sign that? Don't make us go
back to the tape. We'll go back to the tab.
I know the time stamp.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
All I said, all right, situation in the scenario was
that up in next segment is starting to hear from
le started.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I started thinking about it, like but it was only
I thought about famous people.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I'm sure, I'm sure some white.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Players have done it. Well, it's had to have happened.
I don't know, but I'm saying, you think about who
did it? Dashawn Jackson did it?
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Co signing? Coming up next segment, Plexico did it?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, dude did it the other night. McCart what what
how do you say his name? Mercado? How you say Mercado?
Speaker 4 (30:07):
He did it? Avocados called that. I called I called
Ao that Avocado.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Acho ad Mitchell of the Colts did it the week before. Okay,
So yeah, I mean I get it.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I mean these names lately aren't big names, but my
recollection of guys doing it, we're all big name guys.
So it doesn't mean that it didn't happen with other people.
I just was only paying attention to it, like when
it was big name guys who were doing it.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
So the there was an incident on the sideline. Brady
had mentioned this yesterday. Jonathan Gannon got heated at De
Marcados to play and it looked like he hit him
at least once in the chest. Dude was really pissed
off about it. So you guys get buried in the
weeds when it comes to the race stuff. But here's
(30:56):
his white head coach, Jonathan oh Wow, talking about them.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
I woke up this morning and didn't feel great about it, honestly,
and so in the team meeting I addressed it. I
apologize to Omar, apologize to the team, and I just
told him I kind of let the moment of what
happened get the better of me there obviously, like I
try to be emotionally stable and calm because my job
(31:24):
is to solve problems when during a game and kind
of lead the charge on that. So it's not really
who I am who I want to be, And I
told the guys that today. So it's a mistake by me,
and it's just like everybody in there, everybody made us
some type of mistake yesterday, which is, you know, call
(31:44):
me in as to why we didn't win the game,
and we can't let it happen moving forward.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
So there was that was interesting to me when when
I hear like reasoning like that, it's fine whatever it is,
and it's acceptable, it's cool. It's just when you think
about it, and what other arena would he act in
that manner towards a guy like that, Like if you
(32:12):
did that to him in any other arena, he probably
knock his ass out, like.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Knock him out.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Like I don't understand when guys go down to tough
the tough role like approach me like a man like
I made a mistake. I'm gonna handle it, and I'm
gonna be better for it as a man. Approach me
like a man, cause we're not. This isn't youth league,
this isn't high school. Don't approach me as a child,
you approach me as a man. I think it's always
(32:42):
like when you have the trust and you have the
value of experiences together and everybody's on the same page,
you can have moments like that. I don't have a
you know, I don't have no beef with it, But
if we don't have that type of relationship, I'd be
damn if for another grown man runs up on me
and tries to belittle me that way and we're having
(33:05):
that type of com you're having that type of conversation
where your mother f and me and all kinds of
stuff on the sideline. Like I recall one time, just
a real quick quick story. I could remember one time
I was in the meeting room and it was a
linebacker that we had that had came from the military.
He was in the lock in the meeting room and
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they were going over we were going over to practice
film and Dale Lindsey was just berading him all kinds
of dumb mother effort. You stupid mother effort, mother, effort,
this mother, after that, you mother e for you, this.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
That and the other.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
And I'm looking at him, I'm like, dude, this dude
served our country, brou He's got a name you could tell.
You could say his name like, you can correct him,
and you can give him the proper instruction by saying
his name and it respecting him and acknowledging his name
instead of talking with it's so much filth coming out
(34:01):
of your mouth. It's an old school way. It's an
old school approach and I get that, but and I'm
not sensitive to it. Like I'm not saying this because
it's like, oh my gosh, he should be suspended, he
should be a drup. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, like,
come on, man, like addressed the dude like a man.
That's That's all I'm saying, Like, have a level of respect.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
I get that.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
But at the same time, you can understand people's emotions
getting I can't.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Yeah, I mean that is especially And here's the problem.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Don't you want to bet in the team meeting they
played the ad Ni Mitchell clip. Don't you want to
bet that they actually played that clip to their players?
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Because every every team does this.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
You know, when you see someone do something really dumb,
you play it and you're like, that's not going to
be our team. That's not who we are, that's not
going to be our brand of football. And so I
can promise you. I can promise you they were made
aware of that play by aDNA Mitchell.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
And they were like sit there saying we're not going
to be that team.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
And so then to have you have a player who
actually does it, I could see how you'd go irate
for a head coach that feels a lot of pressure.
They've played a lot of close games they haven't been
able to pull them out, and so is it right? No,
but you can kind of understand it because you know
this is a player that ultimately made one play that yeah. Yeah,
(35:26):
And and the problem is like you hate to go,
oh one play, it's like, well, yeah, that might have
been one.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
That one costs. Yeah, it's uh, it's bad. I don't
think Jonathan Gannon's a tool by any means. But you
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Speaker 3 (36:20):
So all right, it's coming up next here on the show,
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and find out who is telling the truth.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
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Speaker 4 (37:17):
Brady, you want to find it?
Speaker 3 (37:18):
What do you mean we can find Uh? Are not
going to find it? So, bri you have me the
evidence from yesterday?
Speaker 4 (37:26):
All right? So, uh it's so funny, like yeah, stupid
fun that's the problem. Fun Yeah, tripped out. What's cool
about dropping the football? Even if you drop it a
yard or a half a yard?
Speaker 11 (37:42):
Yeah it's me and that was but you but you qualified?
You qualify it? Do I not understand because I'm a
white guy. That's a fair question. This is a question.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
He doesn't. I told him qualify? How that's a fair question. Okay?
Speaker 11 (38:02):
But why is it because you're a white guy? You
can't understand?
Speaker 3 (38:05):
I think Pete's the perfect I'd asked him because obviously
LeVar is black, Brady and I are white, and Pete tan.
So he shots the difference, he splits the difference, and
so we needed an expert. So Pete is so good.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
So we should have kept going. He kept going. I'm scared.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I've scored a lot of touchdowns in my day, and
not one of them did I I dropped the ball early?
Or do something early? Man before I crossed the goal?
Lad for one? But for two? Why am I the
one that I'm getting the question directed to?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Right?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I feel like this is an obvious there's an obvious
undertone connected here.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Directed I directed it to everybody, And the reality is,
when I think about it, what's the point of it? Though?
Speaker 1 (39:11):
If you don't know, I don't know, why why would
Why would I know?
Speaker 4 (39:14):
I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
I'm asking all of you, yea saying the bar just like,
did you directed it towards me?
Speaker 4 (39:22):
As well? I don't because actually I didn't direct it
at you. I offend anything. I just wanted to. It's
like in another thirty seconds, uh we we? I mean
we got to wait a longer. I thought, I was
gonna figure out and give the time stamp.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
We should have been able to get to cues conclusion
of the scenario, but you know we're not going to
have enough time. But that's all right. I mean I
got another hour, like, yeah, another hour, and your conclusion
was funny as it was worthing air.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
It's thirty seconds said that the.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Michael Jackson song it doesn't matter if you're black or white.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
It does obviously it does matter. Ye
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Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah, Travis Hunter is special dout. He's special, special dude.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Is he worth giving up everything they gave out trade
for him?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
That I can agree with? It's a special dude. The
but check o take. I'm still trying to figure out.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Don't worry about me, man, I'm always worried about you.
Worry about you, worry about nah. Well that's that's nice.
I was ready to be an a hole, but that
was very nice to you.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
To say thank you. Just disarm you right there, he did.
Dang it. I always worried about my guys. Man. Life
is a uh it's a crazy thing.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Man.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
I think the older you get, the more you realize,
like both ends of it, like how fragile it is,
but at the.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Same time how resilient people can be.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
It's ah, it's tough, but you know, not thinking off
on a tangent, but you just you never know sometimes
why people make decisions. And I think in today's world
it's tough because you know, you can do one thing
wrong and that's how people remember you, or that's how
people you know, or especially the.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Young generation, because all they.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Do is look at their phone, you know, and so
they'll see one thing and they're like, oh, you know,
he's that guy this.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
What do you mean? Well, like I think about think about.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Dave Portnoy, who's you know, built a incredible company in barstool,
sold it for a bunch of money. And then when
we travel around, you know, people will say they're like.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Hey, hey, pizza guy, I get a picture pizza guy.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
I'm like the guy you're calling a pizza guy? Like okay,
it's like that sound like the young kids like, well,
like not all of them know was Dave Portnoy. That's
kind of crazy.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I thought you were thinking of something. Yeah, I know
you thought it was going on there and.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
It made so much sense for it to kind of
because it really does take an entire lifetime to build
a reputation. In a matter of a moment, you could
ruin the whole thing. What are you talking about, I'm
just talking about like like he's talking about life in
general and perceptions and things and how things happen.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
I mean, the hard part is it's easier. It's a
tarnish it now than ever before. It really is. It
really is, man, it's dangerous out here.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I tell my son that all the time, and my daughters, well,
I tell both my sons that you gotta tell your kids,
like your kids have to be so aware of the
fact that that exists.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
It is so easy to tarnish yourself these days. It's
super easy and it's quick and it could really really
cost you. So you got to be like super vigilant.
You gotta be super aware, more so than you ever
have been. And it's kind of it's interesting because you
don't get you don't get that type of runway to
(03:37):
learn in life the way that you you know when
I was a kid, You don't you don't have those
those simplicities of you know, something happens, you you lock
it up and then the school yard. By the end
of the day, you might be friends. By the end
of the day, you might not be friends, but at
least you know where you staying with one another. You know,
everything goes the way is going to go, Like everything
(03:59):
is so different now that would have been on social media.
Then here comes somebody's mom and now they're suing, and
then now the school has to do this, and then
now here comes the news and this that it's it's
so crazy how lightning fast content and and how desensitized
we are. Like it used to be a thing to
(04:22):
see a person basically not robed and on television and
that was like, oh, like they took their clothes off. Yeah,
and you wasn't even fully button naked. It was like, oh,
you can see he's got his boxers.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
On her, she's got a brawl like and that was like, huh.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Now you could just see people getting killed like hey,
sensitive sensitive material. Here da da da hit the button,
like you see people getting capped on on Like it's
so crazy, how how how bad this content is that
these kids are are really I'm on a you know,
(05:04):
it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
You don't even have to be looking for it. Just
like I was watching like something on on X and
it was like a press conference or something like that,
and all of a sudden, like it automatically went to
another one and it was some guy with his hands
tied behind his back jumping off a freeway overpass.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Not to mention, how why why is this here?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You got full out triple X on on X now.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Too, like full out like nothing left to the imagination.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
You you't even got to leave your social channels. That
It's wow, man, And and and what's crazy is is
that these kids have access to all of that filth
just like an adult does. An adult can't handle that
filth properly, let alone a child.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
That's what it's.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
So it's we live in a different world, man, We
definitely live in a different different place these days.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
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Speaker 3 (06:21):
So Texas has been a little bit underwhelming based on
preseason rankings and exactly how things have gone for them,
and Arch Manning and Steve Sarkisian is talking about it,
and so the latest was Steve Sarkisian being asked about
his thoughts and his surprise at where Texas is at.
Let's take it.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Listen, Steve, you haven't live in either of your games
against powerfoar teams, and I'm just curious how so many people,
including myself could be wrong about your team and how
stunned are you know?
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I don't know if I'm stunned.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
I mean, take the other how many teams are there
in college football one hundred and thirty thirty six, Take
the other one hundred and thirty five and have them
go play out Ohio State and at the Swamp and
see how they do.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, still doesn't change the fact that they're underwhelming based.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
On like It goes back to like who if you
beat you know? And I think that's gonna be the
hard part for both Texas. You could say Penn State, whoever.
You know, they got some big games in their schedule that
they can still change the perception of them. And if
we've learned anything about this college football season is you
can throw rankings, you can throw records out the window.
(07:32):
When these teams square off. You know, there's so much
more parody. The way transfer portal has completely changed. Rosters
were like and again not to keep going back to
UCLA Penn State, but if niko Imliava isn't quarterback for Ucla,
they don't win that game. Like people want to give
Cheerry Newhizel credit for the play calling, nikom Alvas.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Running around, you know with it like.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
His head cut off half the time, no bowl, Yeah,
that wasn't It wasn't like offensive scheme, game planning. There
were some things, but like you don't need to make
it more than what it is. And that's the truth
of the matter is you've got a bunch of teams now,
who have you know, more talented players, And the concentration
of talent isn't just at Alabama and Georgia and Ohio
(08:21):
stay in these other schools. Guys want to go play elsewhere.
So what do they do? They go find that opportunity.
Jackson Arnold at Auburn, for example, you know, he's a
quarterback that gives Auburn a shot This weekend hosting Georgia
tough place to play. You know, Gunner Stockton has taken
(08:41):
over for Carson Beck. You know, Georgia fans moved off
from Beck because he didn't play great last year. The
realities he's playing was one of the best quarterbacks in
college football right now. Yes, you don't think Georgia wishes
they would have had something like that back there throwing
the football.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
You know.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
So there's all these different you know, teams and you know,
scenarios we can play out. But man, that I can't
recall another time where I saw more parody in college
football and thought like, yeah, like I I Indiana, Orgon
Oregan's laying seven and a half, I don't know, don't know,
(09:17):
don't know who's gonna show up, you know what it
is until they're not right. Until the only thing I'll
say about that is, uh, just go go look.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
At their home road splits. You know for Indiana, there's
a little something there, but just going to hit the
mute button real.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yeah, no, No, I'm just saying like, uh, you know,
maybe there's a little something there for Indiana and their success,
But the general point is, if you're Steve Sarkesian, yes,
those are tough places to go play. No doubt, you
had sky high expectations for a roster that's loaded, and
(09:59):
there has hasn't been anything that's come to fruition. And
in defense of James Franklin, you know who's got an
awful record versus top.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Ten teams, Steve Sark. Easy, go look that up.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
So I don't know why James Franklin gets all the
blame and hate for his record verse top teams. Go
look at Sarks. Go look at Sarks, and somehow he
flies under the radar.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
All I know is college football is an interesting landscape.
It's it's full of turbulence, but there's there's also an
entertainment factor that I truly, truly have enjoyed this year.
Like I don't know, man, Like when you watch things,
(10:50):
I want to feel emotions when I'm being entertained, and
at the end of the day, sports is entertainment. So
it's no different than when I watched Land.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Man.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I want to be entertained. I want to have a
good plot. I want to have a good storyline. I
want to have a really really defined problem that needs
a solution and a climax and then a you know,
conclusion to it and get out of there. And college
football has been delivering that every weekend. It really has,
(11:23):
and I've I've really enjoyed it, even to the detriment
of my own team. I mean, the white out weekend
was super, super entertaining. The energy was crazy, and it
was it delivered everything that you could have won it
out of a game outside of the results we wanted
(11:44):
as Penn Staters, but if you're just watching it, it
was crazy entertaining. And then to turn around and the storyline,
the plot, the plot twist of it all. To walk
into a stadium where it's barely anybody there, barely anybody there,
and you're looking around, You're like, my guy, I can
see why this team struggles. Nobody gives a damn about
(12:07):
this program. And they win, and they win against the
top ten ten program.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
They win, And I.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Mean we never led, We never led the game versus
a team versus a team that also had never led
up until last week.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
Exactly, something's got to give. I Mean, that's just is disheartening.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Is for me as a fan and as an alumni,
the entertainment factor of that, Like if I could remove
my emotions and my bias for a moment. That's an
amazing moment in college football. It doesn't hard.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Been feeling by the way, has it hit you yet
or no? Are you angry yet?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
You know what's crazy? Yesterday I said, I just want
the season to be over.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Oh say that in my mind?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
In my mind emotionally, I was like, I just want
the season to be over like I wanted to, like
I wanted to hit the reset button, like let's run
this back and let's reset it.
Speaker 5 (13:09):
You know what the problem is if you're saying that,
there's players that are thinking of that.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Same Hey bruh, hey brouh.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And I'm on that sideline every game, and I ain't
want to say like, I'm not gonna make their my
emotions their emotions, but I will say the the energy
I felt after that after that clock hit all zeros,
it was like it was like somebody died right in
(13:38):
front of us like that. The amount of emotion that
like left my body in that moment when we.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Lost to U C. L A.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
It felt like I watched the loved one go to
the next dimension.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
That's how That's how heavy it was on your boys. Art.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I'm say I'm being honest by in hospice bro It
was bad.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
It was bad, all right. So Texas Penn State Clemson one,
two and four preseason ranking, as LeVar would say.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Out of there, out of there.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
So we kind of kicked this around, you know earlier
in the year. What are we doing with the preseason
rankings now? Because I wonder if they didn't exist, for me,
I would still be as interested as I am. But
from the TV standpoint, when you've got a little number
next to a.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Name and made it made it a bigger loss, right.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Well, but a bigger game.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
You're you're a winless team, You're you're zero and four,
you can't seem to get it right, you fire your coach,
bringing in new coaches, and you play a top ten
rated team. There's no possible way that you could come
to the conclusion that there's an upset that's going to
(15:11):
take place in that game.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
So well, let me ask you this, if they got
rid of the preseason rankings and they didn't have those anymore,
how many weeks into the season before you would then.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
So you'd wait for the college football playoff? Kiming, I
don't think that's I don't think it's a bad idea.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Honestly, I really I also think, like, why can't we
have the committee start like Week three, Week four? You've
seen four games and you don't feel like you can
start to put together a list of what you're thinking
about these teams.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, after seeing what I've seen and experiencing what I've
experienced this year, I don't The only thing that I
would say is I don't know that it's these losses
and wins are as big as they are without a
ranking attached to the game.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
No, you're right, You're right. That would be the only thing.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
That I would say would be a drawback because if nobody,
if I don't know how good you are, then I
don't know how big of a win. I'm not able
to like conceptually say, Okay, okay, this team is a
H and fourteen, but it could be a I know
it might sound crazy, it could be a hell of
an O and four team. It really could possibly be
a really good winless team and they just needed to
(16:27):
get on track. And you don't want to be the team.
I remember saying that before the game, Like old UCLA
supporter and booster, we were talking at this this tailgate,
he says to me, I'm just here. You know, I
have my tickets for forty years. I don't miss a game.
This is just going to be a horrible day. And
(16:47):
I was like, you know, it might not be. I mean,
you just never know when a team figures it out,
and for us, we just hope they don't figure it
out today. And maybe they haven't figured it out, but
they figured it out for one afternoon. And so to me,
if there's no rating, I don't really know. I don't
have It's you make the expectation off of their record.
(17:10):
You don't make the expectation off of how the media
and how the general public views the team. Right, like
your top ten, I believe that you're a really, really
good team. I've already come to the conclusion. If you're
in the top twenty five, I already have come to
the conclusion you're one of the teams that they've chosen.
You're one of the good teams. If you're not, it's like, okay,
(17:30):
I expect something different. So it's like you already created
that expectation.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Man, this year it has been pretty interesting, at least
for me personally. That whole idea of it's been pretty
interesting because we're not playing like a top ten team
for certain.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Well last week you were. I mean, you know I
thought the week before you didn't. No Man versus Oregon. Yeah,
I don't know, Bro, I don't know. Man. That was
a battle. That was a brawl. I I disagree with that.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I'll just say it didn't feel like we were ever
really until the end of the third quarter, or it
just didn't really feel as competitive as I would have
liked it to felt for me, and that was no.
They did not They did not run away with it,
and it was tied that halftime, and it was a
(18:23):
low scoring affair. But I mean what played out was
a defense that was worn out because they were on
the field too long, the offense didn't really produce too much,
too many three and outs early on in the game,
and a been but don't break mentality. At some point
the break is coming, and it did come in the
vein of the second second overtime. But all I'm saying
(18:48):
is is for me, I don't want to feel I
don't want to have the expectation of this is my team.
I'm a fan of this team. They're rated one, two, three,
four five and now I'm seeing them and they don't
play like they're one, two, three, four five. Like, I
don't want to be in that situation. I'm as a fan,
(19:10):
I'd rather not be in that situation. So leave us
all unrated and earn it.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Do you think we'll get to a place where they
just don't have the rankings at all?
Speaker 4 (19:19):
No, because TV networks will never.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I mean, I just will never let that happen. You're
choking on that flim boy, you gotta get it up
out of there.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
They'll never let that happen. They'll never let that happen. So,
I mean, it is what it is, but they that'll
be they'll never happen.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
And by the way, they were saying there was a
thirty nine thousand and change at the Rose Bowl. You
buying those numbers of bar or? Is that a uh?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I wouldn't buy thirty nine thousand. If I was betting
on the over under on that, I would definitely have
taken the under.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
O you know, Like, do you know is what's bothersome
about that? Even if you're a UCLA fan you only
get so many games a year, or if you're a
whether you season tickets whatever, if you're a fan of UCLA,
you only get so many games a year. You also
don't get a lot of opportunities to see a program
(20:16):
like penn State in person. And now that they're in
the Big Ten, you're getting all these chances to see
all these these great schools that you never got to
see before. And they're still drawing flies.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Well, i mean your team stinks, yeah, but and it's
not about coming to see your team get throttled by
another team that's come into town to blow up.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
I'm gonna say this, and LeVar is gonna disagree. Football
culturally is not as big in California.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
There are some really good football teams, there's talent. That
doesn't mean culturally it's like, again, LeVar, you have to
think of back to your younger days growing up in Pittsburgh.
Town's shut down, rut down. They everyone where's everyone at
the game of the game. Yeah, literally, Like that's They'll
have signs in the windows of all these towns in Ohio.
(21:05):
Go to Pennsylvania, it's gone to the game, closed, gone
at the game, Like that's how people still live.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
And most of them teams will get whooped by California
football teams.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
And that's fine, but you're missing the point because we're.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Not talking about you're talking about I know, I know,
I get what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
I'm not missing the.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Point like that's why no one got Actually I actually
agree with you. But but what I'm saying is is
that you said I would agree, I would disagree. I'm
saying football, the way football is played here by these
top programs is great.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
It's great. It's really phenomenal. Man. That's it. That's great.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
But that has nothing to do with the fact that
you see they can't draw crowd because people in Pascadia.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
I don't care. I've gone to most people.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
There's people in Cali, there's that's that's everywhere that I'm program.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
That is what I'm saying. The top programs will draw
crowd everywhere in the country.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
You probably had more people a modern day game. It
was it was comparable to how many people were in
the Rose Bowl for that ucd LA games.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Saint John Bosco, them dudes, he's playing.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Like, Okay, name name not a program that's a top program,
Like not the Saint Thomas Aquantas is not the name
your big Bishop Gorman or or you know, South Lake
Carroll in Texas.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
You can name any of those high school programs they have.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
They have college stadiums, you know, the practice stadiums, and.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Then they have a bigger college for their game days.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
Like, to me, the biggest misnomer with the West Coast is, oh, yeah,
these big programs like the Blue but people are gonna watch.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
No, they don't, No, they don't like.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
It took Matt Lioner and Reggie Bush to have an
all time era with Pete Carroll for them to be
able to watch, and then after that it's like, well,
we're not going to watch.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
It's not even just college, it's the NFL as well too,
because the NFL left and was out of here for
twenty years they were, and people just develop loyalties to
other franchises. The Cowboys are huge.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
As yes, there is there's other stuff to do.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
But as far as football fans go, the most popular
team in Southern California from an NFL standpoint is the
Raydos Cowboys Radars, and it's not even close, and they've
burned LA multiple times by leaving.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Dallas is close though, CE Dallas is definitely close, like the.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Chargers and Rams. Like you wonder why the Rams are
getting out numbered by Niner fans, and they go there
San Diego.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
San Diego supported their team. They were pretty good. But
this whole LA thing, it is definitely like very transient,
I would say very transient.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
So and I don't and I don't think so far
helped it because I look at so fine, I go,
this is it feels.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
So corporate entertainment.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
But the problem is, y'all, you're kind of missing the
whole concept that I'm trying to get you to understand.
Like high school football lives with people for their entire
life in certain communities, no doubt, Like, it's not that
way in LA. There's the film industry. It's a big
state of all these other things going with things people
(24:08):
don't care like it's not they live and die by that.
It's the same reason why I can't get people when
I mean, like you guys, oh we understand, Like, no,
you don't like the Ohio State Michigan rivalry. Why that's
so big because people have to live with that crap
for the next two and sixty five days, And it's
hard for people who are not who didn't grow up
in it, who haven't been around it to understand there's
(24:31):
a natural chip on people's shoulder from Ohio towards people
in Michigan.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
And vice versa.
Speaker 5 (24:37):
That's just how it is, and so it makes for
very entertaining, great rivalies, great matchups. But at the same time,
at lower levels, the intensity for youth football, for high
school football, we're not talking about talent, but the intensity
of it and what it means to the community and
means to that culture is way bigger.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Same thing in the South, same thing in the South,
it means that much more.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
So like that to me plays as big of a
role as anything for who goes and watches Because on
Friday nights when you live in the Midwest, you go
to the football game, you go support, you know, your
local program where your kids are gonna go to school.
That's what you do. The kids go and play, parents
go and watch and support. That's part of the Friday night.
That's that experience. Are they doing that in La hell No?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I was sitting on the beach with my feet into sand,
wondering why am I going home so early to watch
a game?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
That's what I was doing.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, so I kind of fall into that population of
people and I do Sports Talk Radio.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
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(27:13):
That's a great song. It does matter when you're black
or white, all right, only for touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
That's got to be racist.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Amari Demrcado, who uh dang dropped the ball before he crossed.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
The goal line. It was close in the Arizona card.
By the way, great hustle by Lugerious Snead. We do
acknowledge that. But he didn't have to do anything. It
was go hustle though, but he left. But if he's
not there.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
If he's not there, you know, maybe he I don't know,
Marcardo picks it up or something and figures it out.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
You know, I was thinking about that. I don't think
he was even aware.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
You know, who's the the founding father of this moment,
Leon let Yeah, and Don Beebe got him up top, Brady.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
That's actually though, not even close to this, because the
topic of the conversation is how De Marcado dropped.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
The ball anyway. You know, Don Beebe chased down left,
but he punched it out, yes, entirely out, but he
was holding the ball.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Lagerious would have. Lagerious would have. But De Marcato dropped
the ball before that anyway.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
But he would have scored the touchdown if he hadn't,
like he Snea wouldn't have made it.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
He would have scored. He would have broke the plane.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
He bear it like it was close in terms of
him letting it go and crossing the plane. That was
like like cinimeters or inches, like it was close. I
almost felt like it was a touchdown. Honestly, I almost
felt like he broke the plane before he started letting
the ball go.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I think Ty goes to the to the other guy.
When you make it that close when it didn't need
to be like they just you know, based.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
On they almost they almost got Lloyd last night, but
he held that bad boy tried to punch it out.
One of them receivers caught up to him, tried to
punch it out. Ball security, baby LB. He didn't drop it,
LB drop it and he's black.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
That's right. How about that I'm talking about? Although I
was told like I said, like I said, you differentiated,
No you do you pivoted? No, you you did put
that on me? Hold on, did you put that? You
not co sign that?
Speaker 5 (29:22):
Did you not co sign that? Don't make us go
back to the tape. We'll go back to the tab.
I know the time stamp.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
All I said, all right, situation in the scenario was
that up in next segment is starting to hear from
le started.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
I started thinking about it, like but it was only
I thought about famous people.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I'm sure, I'm sure some white.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Players have done it. Well, it's had to have happened.
I don't know, but I'm saying, you think about who
did it? Dashawn Jackson did it?
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Co signing? Coming up next segment, Plexico did it?
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, dude did it the other night. McCart what what
how do you say his name? Mercado? How you say Mercado?
Speaker 4 (30:07):
He did it? Avocados called that. I called I called
Ao that Avocado.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Acho ad Mitchell of the Colts did it the week before. Okay,
So yeah, I mean I get it.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I mean these names lately aren't big names, but my
recollection of guys doing it, we're all big name guys.
So it doesn't mean that it didn't happen with other people.
I just was only paying attention to it, like when
it was big name guys who were doing it.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
So the there was an incident on the sideline. Brady
had mentioned this yesterday. Jonathan Gannon got heated at De
Marcados to play and it looked like he hit him
at least once in the chest. Dude was really pissed
off about it. So you guys get buried in the
weeds when it comes to the race stuff. But here's
(30:56):
his white head coach, Jonathan oh Wow, talking about them.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
I woke up this morning and didn't feel great about it, honestly,
and so in the team meeting I addressed it. I
apologize to Omar, apologize to the team, and I just
told him I kind of let the moment of what
happened get the better of me there obviously, like I
try to be emotionally stable and calm because my job
(31:24):
is to solve problems when during a game and kind
of lead the charge on that. So it's not really
who I am who I want to be, And I
told the guys that today. So it's a mistake by me,
and it's just like everybody in there, everybody made us
some type of mistake yesterday, which is, you know, call
(31:44):
me in as to why we didn't win the game,
and we can't let it happen moving forward.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
So there was that was interesting to me when when
I hear like reasoning like that, it's fine whatever it is,
and it's acceptable, it's cool. It's just when you think
about it, and what other arena would he act in
that manner towards a guy like that, Like if you
(32:12):
did that to him in any other arena, he probably
knock his ass out, like.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
Knock him out.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Like I don't understand when guys go down to tough
the tough role like approach me like a man like
I made a mistake. I'm gonna handle it, and I'm
gonna be better for it as a man. Approach me
like a man, cause we're not. This isn't youth league,
this isn't high school. Don't approach me as a child,
you approach me as a man. I think it's always
(32:42):
like when you have the trust and you have the
value of experiences together and everybody's on the same page,
you can have moments like that. I don't have a
you know, I don't have no beef with it, But
if we don't have that type of relationship, I'd be
damn if for another grown man runs up on me
and tries to belittle me that way and we're having
(33:05):
that type of com you're having that type of conversation
where your mother f and me and all kinds of
stuff on the sideline. Like I recall one time, just
a real quick quick story. I could remember one time
I was in the meeting room and it was a
linebacker that we had that had came from the military.
He was in the lock in the meeting room and
(33:26):
they were going over we were going over to practice
film and Dale Lindsey was just berading him all kinds
of dumb mother effort. You stupid mother effort, mother, effort,
this mother, after that, you mother e for you, this.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
That and the other.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
And I'm looking at him, I'm like, dude, this dude
served our country, brou He's got a name you could tell.
You could say his name like, you can correct him,
and you can give him the proper instruction by saying
his name and it respecting him and acknowledging his name
instead of talking with it's so much filth coming out
(34:01):
of your mouth. It's an old school way. It's an
old school approach and I get that, but and I'm
not sensitive to it. Like I'm not saying this because
it's like, oh my gosh, he should be suspended, he
should be a drup. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying, like,
come on, man, like addressed the dude like a man.
That's That's all I'm saying, Like, have a level of respect.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
I get that.
Speaker 5 (34:23):
But at the same time, you can understand people's emotions
getting I can't.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
Yeah, I mean that is especially And here's the problem.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Don't you want to bet in the team meeting they
played the ad Ni Mitchell clip. Don't you want to
bet that they actually played that clip to their players?
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Because every every team does this.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
You know, when you see someone do something really dumb,
you play it and you're like, that's not going to
be our team. That's not who we are, that's not
going to be our brand of football. And so I
can promise you. I can promise you they were made
aware of that play by aDNA Mitchell.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
And they were like sit there saying we're not going
to be that team.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
And so then to have you have a player who
actually does it, I could see how you'd go irate
for a head coach that feels a lot of pressure.
They've played a lot of close games they haven't been
able to pull them out, and so is it right? No,
but you can kind of understand it because you know
this is a player that ultimately made one play that yeah. Yeah,
(35:26):
And and the problem is like you hate to go,
oh one play, it's like, well, yeah, that might have
been one.
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Speaker 4 (37:17):
Brady, you want to find it?
Speaker 3 (37:18):
What do you mean we can find Uh? Are not
going to find it? So, bri you have me the
evidence from yesterday?
Speaker 4 (37:26):
All right? So, uh it's so funny, like yeah, stupid
fun that's the problem. Fun Yeah, tripped out. What's cool
about dropping the football? Even if you drop it a
yard or a half a yard?
Speaker 11 (37:42):
Yeah it's me and that was but you but you qualified?
You qualify it? Do I not understand because I'm a
white guy. That's a fair question. This is a question.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
He doesn't. I told him qualify? How that's a fair question. Okay?
Speaker 11 (38:02):
But why is it because you're a white guy? You
can't understand?
Speaker 3 (38:05):
I think Pete's the perfect I'd asked him because obviously
LeVar is black, Brady and I are white, and Pete tan.
So he shots the difference, he splits the difference, and
so we needed an expert. So Pete is so good.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
So we should have kept going. He kept going. I'm scared.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
I've scored a lot of touchdowns in my day, and
not one of them did I I dropped the ball early?
Or do something early? Man before I crossed the goal?
Lad for one? But for two? Why am I the
one that I'm getting the question directed to?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Right?
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I feel like this is an obvious there's an obvious
undertone connected here.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Directed I directed it to everybody, And the reality is,
when I think about it, what's the point of it? Though?
Speaker 1 (39:11):
If you don't know, I don't know, why why would
Why would I know?
Speaker 4 (39:14):
I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
I'm asking all of you, yea saying the bar just like,
did you directed it towards me?
Speaker 4 (39:22):
As well? I don't because actually I didn't direct it
at you. I offend anything. I just wanted to. It's
like in another thirty seconds, uh we we? I mean
we got to wait a longer. I thought, I was
gonna figure out and give the time stamp.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
We should have been able to get to cues conclusion
of the scenario, but you know we're not going to
have enough time. But that's all right. I mean I
got another hour, like, yeah, another hour, and your conclusion
was funny as it was worthing air.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
It's thirty seconds said that the.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Michael Jackson song it doesn't matter if you're black or white.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
It does obviously it does matter. Ye
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