October 9, 2025 • 41 mins
The guys go into depth on the trade between the Browns & the Jaguars trading Greg Newsome for Tyson Campbell + Baker Mayfield being himself, and The Express Pros Pro of the week!
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Browns are all of a sudden just wheeling and dealing.
They're just out there. I don't know if you know,
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if it means anything if they're just going to go
out and and compete all of a sudden, but they're
out making upgrades. They went out and they got Joe
Flacco out of town so they could.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Uh go for Flacco Cincy.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, he gone. The Jaguars and Browns also made another deal,
of course, they made the Draft Day deal that resulted
in Travis Hunter ending up in Jacksonville, but they have
swapped cornerbacks Tyson Campbell and Greg Newsome. Draft picks included
along with that. That, according to Adam Schefter of ESPN,
so I don't really know what's happening here. They feel
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like they're maybe they think they've got a shot at
this whole thing, or maybe this is just a youth move.
But I have no idea what the Browns are out
there making moves and staying active in the midst of
what's been a very strange season and a strange offseason
in Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
So there's that, yeh, I think there's a hot seat.
I don't know about that. I mean, like, I think
that's a separate conversation for the other time. A lot of
these moves are being made by Andrew Berry, and I
think the interesting thing about how Stefanski rolls into that is,
you know, Stefanski seems like surprised. I mean, he's kind
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of admitted as much in his press conferences, but specifically
to the quarnerback trade. It's kind of interesting, right you
swap quarnerbacks like Tyson Campbell comes in a player who's
drafted the second round to Jacksonville. He's signed his long
term extension, and so now the Browns have him under
contract for the foreseeable future, even though you know, there's
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a guy with Greg Newsom who really good player. I
think most Browns fans would tell you that still in
his rookie deal. So I'm not sure if there's some
negotiations going on behind the scenes and they couldn't agree
to whatever that number was, and they just said, hey,
let's go bring a guy who we feel really good
about based on the tape, who's already under contract, and
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then you know, we can let someone else go pay
you know, Greg what he wants to be paid, and
that team just maybe the Jacksonville Jaguars. So kind of
interesting swap the way that's worked out, because that's kind
of the economics to it is you're getting a veteran,
you feel like you have a really good idea who
he is and what you're gonna have to get what
he's gonna cost you. And then on the flip side,
you've got a rookie who you liked a lot, but
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you know, maybe trying to ask for a little too
much in that extension off his rookie deal, So why
not send him to a place that is maybe building
something and they see more value there than you do.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I was asking the question, is Stefanski on the hot
seat based upon if if you're making moves like this,
and I don't know how aggressive we would rat it.
I mean, I don't think it's crazy aggressive. Trade's happened,
you know all the time. I'm just curious, by making
some of the moves that you're making, are you buying
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yourself more time as a coach if personnel wise, it
looks as though you're taking the organization or the team
in the right direction, even if that doesn't equate to
the type of wins that that you were hoping for.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
This.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
So the reason why I don't think it applies is
because there is like a true separation of how the
Browns operate with their front office and then their coaching staff.
So there's not not our organizations are obviously like that,
but in this case, like it is very very clear cut.
And there's some other organizations who are like that too,
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and they'll float out tell you they're like, yeah, we
don't do that, we don't go in the personnel decisions
and we don't you know, look at this or that,
Like they will they will say very admantly, like we
had no part in that, you know, good or bad. No,
that's that's their job. That's you know, that's what they do,
and they're upfront about it. So this is an organization
or it's like that. Now there's instances where, you know,
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Kevin Stefanski will co sign on to the like Deshaun
Watson deal, but again that wasn't really his doing, even
though he ultimately has to face the consequences of it. However,
I will say this, you know, for the whole Watson thing,
Stefanki has kind of come out looking like a better
coach because he's had to battle through the adversity of
it and is one of you know, Coach of the
Year award and doing so. So I think there's a
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lot of people who understand how good of a coach
he is. It's just they have a quarterback position that
has struggled and now they're you know, traded away a
guy who had a wealth of experience to a team
that feels like there's still something there and they're kind
of starting over reevaluating their roster what they have on it.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Stefanski also was asked about the quarterback depth chart as
well to yesterday an well, yuh, of course, I mean,
of course you got to you got to get your hit,
your shoot or quota if you're at these press conferences.
Here it went decided if Shador is going to be
your number two active quarterback for this weekend.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Yet, well, first I tell you is that Joe Trade
took us by surprise. That was not something that we
saw coming. You know, they called us and you know
that's uh. It was happened very fast, and happened not
too long ago. So still working through all roster type
of things.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I just I always have to be.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Mindful of our players and our players' development, and you know,
I want to make sure that I'm always doing what's
best for our players and of course our team. But
you know, with young players, I'm always thinking about last
week making the change with to Dylan. You have to
think long and hard about that because these are these
are young players that you're so invested in their development.
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So I'll let the week play out, make a decision
later on that.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
You know what I like about Stefanski. First of all,
he looks like a were wolf, which is fun. Secondly,
I like the fact that he never it's the same energy,
same emotion, every single time. And as Brady pointed out,
he's dealt with some crap like Brian Callahan and Tennessee
is a year and a half in, not even a
year and a half in, and he's already losing patience
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with the media over questions they've got about, you know,
the team in the locker room. Stefanski just same energy
the entire time. I'll look at sa Shad or Sanders
question again of course, like he's got to deal with
all of that, all of the decisions from Jimmy hasm everything.
And that's why when you ask is he on the
hot seat? I don't know, but I don't think he
should be, because I don't know how much of this
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is his doing. It feels like there's other things going
on there and he's just been given all the groceries
and like, all right, go make something with this, and
it's like, okay, I'll try. And he won Coach of
the Year twice for a reason, and he did it
with different quarterbacks, which I think says a lot about him.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I like Stefanski, I really do. He's I believe he's
a PA guy too. By the way, you know, does.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
That change anything for you?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
No? But it makes it better.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah. I think he is a Philly Philly. Yeah, he
is sad.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Saint Joe's man, and you know where there's that relationship there,
you know, I think Joe Flaky didn't he get to
Saint Joe's Or am I thinking of someone else?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I don't know. I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
I look it up.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I didn't think Flacco was a p A guy.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Oh, you're right, he was born in Jersey. I thought
he went to UH.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Which is sometimes very close. I mean, if he's a
South Jersey and he might as well be a p
A guy. But you know, because I skipping a jump,
Oh yeah, skipping a jump, you're in Philly.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
He went to score in Jersey, a p A.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
On the north side. You're in New York.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
But I'm not thinking of Matt Ryan. Was Matt Ryan
a Philly guy?
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Matt Ryan doesn't sound like Philly either, But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Stefanski his first team All Ivy League when he was
a player as a dB.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
He's pretty pretty smart dude, man.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
No, yeah, Matt Ryan's a Penn. Here's a pen Charter
pen Pin.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Oh nice?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Nice?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Sorry that today years Old. If it ain't North Hills,
it don't count as far as I go.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I don't know that that's true. But you brought that
instant institution. That's a very nice, very nice place. Yeah, yeah, Patty,
I believe everyone, not just anyone.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I believe not some.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I just think everyone knows what Kevin Stefanski is facing then,
and he's facing a very daunting task. And I think
that it's very clear Deshaun Watson was brought in to
be your franchise quarterback. You let you let Baker Mayfield go,
as it is highlighted on this show often, and you
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see what Baker Mayfield is doing in Tampa Bay. That's
one of the hottest teams in the league. And you
replace that with Deshaun Watson. And Deshaun Watson has not
played his part and his role in and the transactions
that took place. And Kevin Stefanski is trying to already
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having the complexities of it being the Browns to begin with,
but he's trying to navigate those waters. And so to me,
I just I just wonder if they continue to have
the type of season that they're having and they're not
able to really turn it around. What does that look
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like for? You know, what does that look like for
the Browns? They're one one team right now? But you
have a super super dope coach, and I don't think
anyone would dispute that he has a dope coach.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
But you are what your record says you are.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
So then now the question becomes, if this is another
season where they come up short, what does that look like?
You know, he's talking about development and development of the
players as it applied to him, talking being about asked
about Shador Sanders. What does development look like when you're facing,
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you know, possibly losing your job. It's a curious thing
the position to be in. But I find I find
it interesting that the Cleveland Browns has created such a
almost like a dilemma because what do you replace that with?
What do you replace Stefanski with? You did go in
a different direction if they didn't have a good year,
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what do you replace them with? And what is that
coach going to do or what is that GM going
to do to make the Browns better?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
So Zach Taylor and Kevin Stefanski are both seven games
under five hundred as far as their record goes like,
but it feels like you've got to add some nuance
to each of them to have a real discussion about it,
that it's not so black and white, because I mean,
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Joe Burrow's injured, so what does that do Watson exactly.
So that's why I look at it and I go, don't.
I don't think either guy should be judged for that.
But I wonder if the organization's just looking at this gone, yeah,
but we could have been better, you know, like I know,
I know they were in a tough spot, but we
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could have been better, and it well, okay, I just
it feels like they're just they're in a situation where
they can't help the fact that their quarterbacks couldn't stay healthy.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
It's true, But here's here's what LaVar is getting to.
If someone has to take the fall. We've talked about
this before, like when seasons don't go right, you can't
just sell it, oh well, we're just looking at the
next year. That's not how it works. Someone has to
take the fall. So they'll be an internal battle. It'll
be between Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski, and they'll have
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to determine who they feel like they I mean, look
and maybe STEFANSI said, I'm tired of this. I know
I'm a good coach. I know I'll get hired elsewhere.
We'll see what jobs come open, and maybe I go there.
But there will be an internal struggle, and there will
be at some point someone on the shopping block and
it'll be you know, everyone you know, looking to try
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to save themselves or justify what they've done, which I
think both coaches can make cases, right, Like, if you're
Andrew Berry, you've got a pretty solid roster. It's a
really good roster. Just to Jonas's point, the quarterback position
struggle to you know, execute and struggle to stay healthy.
So that's played a role against it. And if you're Stefanski,
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you know you've been able to make chicken salad out
of chicken. You don't want to roll. Yeah, I know
could have been third this I know, so close. But
that's that's where we're at. Like that's how this works too.
So to your point, LeVar, like when you ask if
he's in the hot seat, probably, but I also theelk
Andrew Berry is too. And here's a tough thing about
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like looking back at the Hugh Jackson years, who you
know I don't know if his loss suit is still
going on or if that's gone away. I know Ryan
Flores is going on. He just got a nice win.
Actually that should help his claims. But my general point is,
you know Andrew Barry, that was like him and Paul
de Podesta and the whole crew they bought into the
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open sixteen one to fifteen years. That was their strategy.
It was the whole moneyball from baseball and then trying
to build back up to the draft and accumulating all
these picks. And they did it. But the problem is
they forget It's like they forgot their luggage, like they
forgot the most important piece when they went on the trip,
and that was the quarterback and then extend Baker Mayfield.
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And I don't know how much Jimmy Haslam had to
do with that versus the rest of the front office
or whoever made that decision, but that was the decision
that ultimately led them to this point. And if it's
the owner, if it was Jimmy haslm and made it,
which I think it was, and probably why he emotionally
moved on to Sean Watson and did what he did
and gave that contract that look, it was his money,
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so you know it's it's a waste, but it's a
waste of his money and he's wealthy, so and do
whatever he wants. But the truth of the matter is,
I don't know how you hold then Kevin Stefanski responsible
even though they made the playoffs in a year that
was a disaster and he somehow figured it out or
Andrew Barry in that case either, Like ultimately, you know,
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if that's the justification that come out as the owner
at the end of the season and say I've involved
myself too much to the point where I need to
take a step back. I need to let the guys
I hire do their thing and give them time to
see what it looks like, because that's what I feel
like the biggest issue with this organization is, and I
know I've said before, he's throwing money at it, which is,
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you know, more than some owners are willing to do.
But ultimately, if he's meddling in the decision making, he's
playing a role, but he doesn't want to take any
accountability that point them blame on someone else. Well, I
guess that's not like a rich man's game, right, that's
what you do is you just hire people to fire
them and blame them for your decisions. That's where it
feels like it's headed. If that's the case.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Did we discuss the text that you sent over yet
of the the commitment financial aid to quarterbacks for the Browns?
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Yeah, we have it.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
So the updated Browns. This is from SPO track, the
updated Brown's twenty twenty five quarterback cap hits. Jameis Winston
two point two million dollars dead cap hit, Dylan Gabriel
one point one million, Joe Flacco nine hundred ninety nine
thousand dead cap, Shardor Sanders nine hundred and fifty five thousand,
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Deshaun Watson thirty five point nine million published, Bailey Zappy
three hundred and fifteen thousand dollars, Pea Squad, Dorian Thompson
Robinson one hundred and seventy one thousand dead cap, Kenny
Pickett eight thousand dead cap. So there's there's a lot
of Uh, there's.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Over forty million dollars of dead money to quarterbacks who
are not on the roster. Over forty million. Now, mind you,
that's like one seventh of the salary cap this year.
I believe the salary CAP's like two hundred and eighty million,
So one seventh of their salary cap is devoted to
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dead cap. Dead cap for players at one position who
aren't there anymore or at least not active on the roster.
Think about that, and look, the Lion's share of that
goes to Shaun Watson, which goes back to the initial
point about Jimmy Haslam and getting too involved in these
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decisions and emotionally trying to make up for whatever falling
out he had with Baker Mayfield. So that's on him.
But still it's just it's been a revolving door, man.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I mean, there have been some reports that Deshaun's post
and workout videos that uh maybe all over social type.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
I can't see it, like Cam Newton workouts or they
like Ron Jeremy workouts like which one.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I don't know. I think he blocked pretty much everybody
at Fox Sports Radio, so he can't really go on
there to see. But he uh, you know, he's on
on the X or is it on the Instagram. I'm
not sure I can go Look. I'm certain he hasn't
blocked me, but I mean, you know, what what if
he I mean at this point, if if everybody else
is going to get a turn, you know, if it's
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like you know, community quarterback room there to where everybody
gets an opportunity to play. I mean, you know, if
he comes back later out of the season, maybe uh,
maybe Deshaun gets out there.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
And you want to know what's coincidental about his workout video?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
What's that.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
He's rocking a gatorade tawl and a lot of the
the video.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Well, he's got to have something to set his stuff on.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
I was gonna say, he's a shield.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, what do you want to do? What type of.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Shoe case he goes in the battle? He needs a shield?
All of those hard towels he's got.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Oh okay, he's got he's got a gatorade table.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
You know it's good.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
He's got a fre hey hey, let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
All right, this is more of a scarf. But he's
I mean, he may have an infatuation with like objects
towel Like look at this one.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Well it would be something if you figure out a
way of wrapping towels into like every part of his fashion,
and that way he'd always be ready.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I mean, you see the one I just said Joe.
I mean, yeah, that man profiling.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
It's weird, you know, It's just the whole thing's very,
very bizarre.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
He's into towels, man, I mean he's got a towel
on and pretty much every every post I'm looking at.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Right, he's probably an extra owl guy at at hotels. Right,
that's his request, like any special requests extra towels, like
how many, how many you got.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
A big old stack?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
How many you got that's the first request.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Yeah, he's just they like they actually them for stealing
the cleaning lady cart my card go.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Please, hease, I'll keep the wind necks, give me your towels. Well, hey,
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This is America?
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Is that stually a good song?
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Thank you? When's the good part? Start right now? Out
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That's fine. Maybe I'll make that my next song. We'll see.
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I would love that. Yeah, but when are we supposed
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that long. I think it was the start of the
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They've been long enough. You're the worst when it comes
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be just how it was in the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Like to let it marinate. Yeah, let people really get
a good glimpse into what our music tastes are like
before I switch it up. So I don't know your
By the way, do you guys have a Do you
guys have songs already picked out for the new intro
new opens to each hour?
Speaker 4 (25:55):
I always have another one watch always always which but
I've got just in case you'll let me replace yours. Jonas,
what you going with?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Var Hey, not going to display it yet, not not going.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
To disclose stripper.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Uh no no, no, I like to you know, catch
you off guard. So it'll be something that y'all weren't expecting.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Maybe like got some hate Breed Slayer something like that.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
No, all right, no, but we'll get to it. Gat man,
what are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Whatever sports. I know, whatever you pick, it's going to
be hot.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yeah, definitely will be hot, like yeah, spicy hot, like
the spicy hotness of Louisiana hot sauce. That's right. Hey, listen, man,
you can put that on your your burgers. You could
put it on your nachos. You could even put it
on clam chowder. I don't get it, but Jonas likes
(26:58):
to do it and whatever food.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Oh no, well, any anyone you like putting your hot
sauce on you know, it could be a burger, it
doesn't matter. You hit a tailgate, you hit that food
with that bold, handcrafted flavor of the original Louisiana hot sauce.
All right, that's Louisiana hot. Make sure you buy you some.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Oh yeah, yeah, so Baker may I'll make that my
next intro song.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Do a good job with that, yeah, bake. Baker Mayfield's
having himself a year, and he talked yesterday about the
narratives changing, about his uh, his fired up personality, his
temperament on the football field.
Speaker 8 (27:41):
Let's take a listen, sold you guys try and not
get to high, not get too low, which is something
that I was not doing early on in my career.
But you know, early on in my career, yeah, it's
looked as cocky, immature. Now it's moxie. He's a dog's
same different days. Just as long as you play well,
they change the narrative. But you just got to be yourself.
I've always been like that, all right.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
So we've got movement on Baker Mayfield in the MVP conversation.
So yesterday he was sitting at eight to one behind
Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. Here you go on DraftKings.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Now that is amazing, by the way he's put go ahead.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Well, now he's plus six fifty.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
I would put Baker and Dak honestly up. There is
two of the favorites agreed. Where's Dak after Baker.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Dak's thirty to one.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
That's amazing, playing really well. I mean again, Baker A Baker.
I feel like he's playing as good as anyone in
the league right now.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
He is, he's playing well, he's playing well. You know,
it's interesting his take because he's so right.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
He is so right. It's so easy to pick.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
On guys and scrutinize guys that are in very tough
situations you know that come from such a high you know,
a high ranking, a high rating from from college.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Was skinning personal, no.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
All not No, I wasn't personal. No, no, I wasn't
hit towards personal. I just I can recall how people
talked about Baker Mayfield even while he was in college.
It was like he was the next Johnny Manziel, right,
he was being compared to Johnny Manzil in terms of
him being so white enerjet.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Well that too, I guess mn stupid.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
I would say this though, that always was so inaccurate
to me, Like there was nothing in Baker's game that
resembled Johnny. There really wasn't, Like if you watch the film,
he didn't play like Johnny. He even even the way
he conducted himself, like, well, there's some moments of cockiness.
That the whole Lawrence Kansas thing grabbing the crotch, there's
(30:03):
some instances of stuff, but it was he was all
about ball though, Like let's be real about it, Like
he was all about ball, and Johnny was like it
was everything else too. So I never understood that. But
that's what he got.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
He got that, he got that whatever it was, whether
it was the wave, whether it was the blowback, whatever
it was, Baker Mayfield was compared to Johnny Manziel in
terms of being brash and you know, being outgoing and
all those different things, and.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
It followed him to the league.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
It follows you, man, Stuff like that follows you, and
it's very difficult to ever clear your name or because
it becomes like your brand.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
It becomes a part of who you are, whether you
like it or not.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
And it's it's great to see that Baker Mayfield has
gotten an opportunity to actually play himself out of more
often than players cannot get out of of the webbing
of what's created based upon what the public perception is.
Whether it's misconception or whether it's accurate, doesn't even matter
(31:12):
because it's just what it is, and before you know it,
that person's out of the league.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
They're out of the league, and.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
That's how their story is written. But he has done
an excellent job of becoming the player. Well, I won't
even say he's done an excellent job, because like you said,
he's always been a fine football player. He's always been
a good ball player, and it probably was premature to
let him go. If you're Cleveland I mean, who knows
(31:40):
where Cleveland's at right now with the roster they have
if they had just kept Baker Mayfield. But we do
know that he's having a positive impact on the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers and that should be stated.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I mean, he had to bounce around. This is fourth team, guys,
the number one pick, it's his fourth team and he
had to take over for Tom Brady in Tampa and
has been top five quarterback in the NFL over the
past couple of years. I mean, you can make the argument,
and he just seems like they whatever, whatever he is,
(32:19):
he's perfect for that team. Like that team loves that guy.
And it's kind of cool to see. And we talked
about a little bit last week that you've got Baker
Mayfield and Sam Darnold facing off and these were two
guys that were competing for the starting job in Carolina
and they're two of the best quarterbacks in the conference.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
And by the way, Baker's always been loved. That was
one of the things rememberhen John Dorris and the Browns
drafted Baker number one overall. John Dorsey told a story
about how he's like, yeah, he's like the pied piper,
like he walked into the Oakhim indoor and he's did
this whistle and everyone just kind of knew to go goe.
They're supposed to be. You know, they have all the receivers,
(33:00):
tight ends running back. Say a like went right where
they're supposed to be. He's like, it's always been that way.
Talk to guys who play with them in Cleveland, talk
to guys who've been on other teams with them, like,
he's always been a very likable, you know player. It's
just being in the right situation and circumstances. And I
think what you just mentioned though about taking over for
Tom it's you know, a Ton didn't have as much
(33:25):
equity built up with the Tampa Bay you know, fan
base like he did in New England. But he did
bring up a Super Bowl. And you know, you think
about just for filling in those shoes and trying to
do it in your own way. It's so hard to do.
It's hard for coaches to do that, like Cavin de
Boor right now in Alabama trying to fill in for
a legend Nick Saban, and it's and it's almost impossible.
(33:45):
I think the thing that I appreciate the most about
Baker and hearing his comments, and what he just said
is he's never once deviated from who he is. He's
just like, I'm gonna do it like how I know
how to do it, and I'm gonna keep working at
it and eventually it's gonna work. And it has. Like
if you look at his career, he was the Big
(34:05):
twelve freshman player of the Year. When he's at Texas Tech,
he transfers to Oklahoma, he ends up winning a Heisman there,
you know, goes over as a number one overall pick,
takes the Browns into the playoffs. They beat Pittsburgh in
the playoffs. It's as far as you know they've been
in recent history. You know. Then it's kind of some
soul searching from there. But you look at what he's
doing now with the Bucks. I mean, if you give
(34:27):
a time like he'll figure it out, he'll do it,
and he's gonna do it his way. And I think
I think that though in Tampa, what he's done is
it was a much more difficult task than people realize
how hard it is to try to go in there
and replace someone who's a first ballot maybe the greatest ever.
I think many people would say in Tom Brady, So
(34:48):
I'm not happy for him. Man, he's he's fun to watch.
I mean, that's that's the other thing, like the fiery nests.
If there's one common denominator between Tom and Min Baker,
the firing neus they both have, it's pretty freaking awesome.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah, it's a good story. Good for him and uh
kind of shut the highlights the fact that you know,
you get drafted to a bag of crap. Then you know,
some careers just never the same after that.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
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Speaker 3 (36:04):
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I see the way they look at you, Bro. Jonas
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(36:27):
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Speaker 4 (36:34):
There is a certain smile you make Jonas to Levar's
point where I feel like I'm like, he could be
a serial killer.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
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Thank you. There you go, sexy serial killer.
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I mean people be throwing their brawls and patties at
them dudes when they be getting taken away from court.
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mac Shoe's.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
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Speaker 1 (38:08):
On the opening drive of the game.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
A couple of.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
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Speaker 1 (38:12):
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Speaker 7 (38:14):
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A two touchdown performance from mac Jones last Thursday night,
(38:47):
and all of this gets him the Express Pros Pro
the Week, especially considering he reportedly saw a dead body
at the team hotel before the game. Really, yeah, if
there was a report there that, uh he saw a body,
he saw a body floating into the water.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Did anyone investigate that? Did he just say it?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I don't know? That's that was Apparently the authority showed up,
you know, uh, got some snorkels and went in there
to go, uh to go figure out what the the
object was. But yeah, mac Jones reportedly saw a dead
body before that game, And so when you factor that
in with the fact that he was going into full
blown body cramps and still pull that a win. Yeah,
(39:37):
I believe it or not? Like an artist, Yeah so
kind of uh, kind of an interesting Diana Rassini was
the one to report that. By the way, dead body.
Uh so it's impressive. Okay, it's impressive, but what would
you do? Why not?
Speaker 3 (40:04):
I can't believe you did. Jonas, you lobbed it out there.
I believe I can't believe you didn't catch all it.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
But it is what it is. But the day reported
uh Mac Jones in a dead body. She's doing a
research all right, trying to get to the bottom of
this stuff. And also, by the way, Rock Purty still
hasn't practice, so maybe info. Maybe I didn't say nothing, man,
(40:34):
Ray Ray, don't get involved, but you're putting down Ray Ray.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Always takes like it's some sports into sexual pretty quick.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Well, I mean she's got insider information too.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
I wasna say.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Was I wrong though?
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Is that what you're leaning towards for?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I don't think. I don't know what I'm leaning to.
I'm not leaning towards anything. Would you be a professional
raight Ray? Please tang right I'm button up my tie
right now, get your.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Head out of the gutter.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Reray, you can get some python in your mouth. Man,
that's really good jerky. By the way, jeez. And by
the way, yeah, they were handing out.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Uh, what's that that I'm touching that, I'm touching that.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Oh that's a real story though, python jerky. You've got
python jerky.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
I'm just saying I wasn't wrong.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
I'm just saying I'm not touched on in your mouth.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
I mean it's jerky. Yeah, that's not the same type
of snake. Pythons don't rattle up the frame.
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Browns are all of a sudden just wheeling and dealing.
They're just out there. I don't know if you know,
(02:07):
if it means anything if they're just going to go
out and and compete all of a sudden, but they're
out making upgrades. They went out and they got Joe
Flacco out of town so they could.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Uh go for Flacco Cincy.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, he gone. The Jaguars and Browns also made another deal,
of course, they made the Draft Day deal that resulted
in Travis Hunter ending up in Jacksonville, but they have
swapped cornerbacks Tyson Campbell and Greg Newsome. Draft picks included
along with that. That, according to Adam Schefter of ESPN,
so I don't really know what's happening here. They feel
(02:43):
like they're maybe they think they've got a shot at
this whole thing, or maybe this is just a youth move.
But I have no idea what the Browns are out
there making moves and staying active in the midst of
what's been a very strange season and a strange offseason
in Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
So there's that, yeh, I think there's a hot seat.
I don't know about that. I mean, like, I think
that's a separate conversation for the other time. A lot of
these moves are being made by Andrew Berry, and I
think the interesting thing about how Stefanski rolls into that is,
you know, Stefanski seems like surprised. I mean, he's kind
(03:19):
of admitted as much in his press conferences, but specifically
to the quarnerback trade. It's kind of interesting, right you
swap quarnerbacks like Tyson Campbell comes in a player who's
drafted the second round to Jacksonville. He's signed his long
term extension, and so now the Browns have him under
contract for the foreseeable future, even though you know, there's
(03:42):
a guy with Greg Newsom who really good player. I
think most Browns fans would tell you that still in
his rookie deal. So I'm not sure if there's some
negotiations going on behind the scenes and they couldn't agree
to whatever that number was, and they just said, hey,
let's go bring a guy who we feel really good
about based on the tape, who's already under contract, and
(04:03):
then you know, we can let someone else go pay
you know, Greg what he wants to be paid, and
that team just maybe the Jacksonville Jaguars. So kind of
interesting swap the way that's worked out, because that's kind
of the economics to it is you're getting a veteran,
you feel like you have a really good idea who
he is and what you're gonna have to get what
he's gonna cost you. And then on the flip side,
you've got a rookie who you liked a lot, but
(04:25):
you know, maybe trying to ask for a little too
much in that extension off his rookie deal, So why
not send him to a place that is maybe building
something and they see more value there than you do.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
I was asking the question, is Stefanski on the hot
seat based upon if if you're making moves like this,
and I don't know how aggressive we would rat it.
I mean, I don't think it's crazy aggressive. Trade's happened,
you know all the time. I'm just curious, by making
some of the moves that you're making, are you buying
(05:00):
yourself more time as a coach if personnel wise, it
looks as though you're taking the organization or the team
in the right direction, even if that doesn't equate to
the type of wins that that you were hoping for.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
This.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
So the reason why I don't think it applies is
because there is like a true separation of how the
Browns operate with their front office and then their coaching staff.
So there's not not our organizations are obviously like that,
but in this case, like it is very very clear cut.
And there's some other organizations who are like that too,
(05:36):
and they'll float out tell you they're like, yeah, we
don't do that, we don't go in the personnel decisions
and we don't you know, look at this or that,
Like they will they will say very admantly, like we
had no part in that, you know, good or bad. No,
that's that's their job. That's you know, that's what they do,
and they're upfront about it. So this is an organization
or it's like that. Now there's instances where, you know,
(05:58):
Kevin Stefanski will co sign on to the like Deshaun
Watson deal, but again that wasn't really his doing, even
though he ultimately has to face the consequences of it. However,
I will say this, you know, for the whole Watson thing,
Stefanki has kind of come out looking like a better
coach because he's had to battle through the adversity of
it and is one of you know, Coach of the
Year award and doing so. So I think there's a
(06:20):
lot of people who understand how good of a coach
he is. It's just they have a quarterback position that
has struggled and now they're you know, traded away a
guy who had a wealth of experience to a team
that feels like there's still something there and they're kind
of starting over reevaluating their roster what they have on it.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Stefanski also was asked about the quarterback depth chart as
well to yesterday an well, yuh, of course, I mean,
of course you got to you got to get your hit,
your shoot or quota if you're at these press conferences.
Here it went decided if Shador is going to be
your number two active quarterback for this weekend.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Yet, well, first I tell you is that Joe Trade
took us by surprise. That was not something that we
saw coming. You know, they called us and you know
that's uh. It was happened very fast, and happened not
too long ago. So still working through all roster type
of things.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I just I always have to be.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Mindful of our players and our players' development, and you know,
I want to make sure that I'm always doing what's
best for our players and of course our team. But
you know, with young players, I'm always thinking about last
week making the change with to Dylan. You have to
think long and hard about that because these are these
are young players that you're so invested in their development.
(07:37):
So I'll let the week play out, make a decision
later on that.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
You know what I like about Stefanski. First of all,
he looks like a were wolf, which is fun. Secondly,
I like the fact that he never it's the same energy,
same emotion, every single time. And as Brady pointed out,
he's dealt with some crap like Brian Callahan and Tennessee
is a year and a half in, not even a
year and a half in, and he's already losing patience
(08:03):
with the media over questions they've got about, you know,
the team in the locker room. Stefanski just same energy
the entire time. I'll look at sa Shad or Sanders
question again of course, like he's got to deal with
all of that, all of the decisions from Jimmy hasm everything.
And that's why when you ask is he on the
hot seat? I don't know, but I don't think he
should be, because I don't know how much of this
(08:24):
is his doing. It feels like there's other things going
on there and he's just been given all the groceries
and like, all right, go make something with this, and
it's like, okay, I'll try. And he won Coach of
the Year twice for a reason, and he did it
with different quarterbacks, which I think says a lot about him.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I like Stefanski, I really do. He's I believe he's
a PA guy too. By the way, you know, does.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
That change anything for you?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
No? But it makes it better.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah. I think he is a Philly Philly. Yeah, he
is sad.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Saint Joe's man, and you know where there's that relationship there,
you know, I think Joe Flaky didn't he get to
Saint Joe's Or am I thinking of someone else?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I don't know. I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
I look it up.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I didn't think Flacco was a p A guy.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Oh, you're right, he was born in Jersey. I thought
he went to UH.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Which is sometimes very close. I mean, if he's a
South Jersey and he might as well be a p
A guy. But you know, because I skipping a jump,
Oh yeah, skipping a jump, you're in Philly.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
He went to score in Jersey, a p A.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
On the north side. You're in New York.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
But I'm not thinking of Matt Ryan. Was Matt Ryan
a Philly guy?
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Matt Ryan doesn't sound like Philly either, But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Stefanski his first team All Ivy League when he was
a player as a dB.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
He's pretty pretty smart dude, man.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
No, yeah, Matt Ryan's a Penn. Here's a pen Charter
pen Pin.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Oh nice?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Nice?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Sorry that today years Old. If it ain't North Hills,
it don't count as far as I go.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I don't know that that's true. But you brought that
instant institution. That's a very nice, very nice place. Yeah, yeah, Patty,
I believe everyone, not just anyone.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
I believe not some.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I just think everyone knows what Kevin Stefanski is facing then,
and he's facing a very daunting task. And I think
that it's very clear Deshaun Watson was brought in to
be your franchise quarterback. You let you let Baker Mayfield go,
as it is highlighted on this show often, and you
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see what Baker Mayfield is doing in Tampa Bay. That's
one of the hottest teams in the league. And you
replace that with Deshaun Watson. And Deshaun Watson has not
played his part and his role in and the transactions
that took place. And Kevin Stefanski is trying to already
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having the complexities of it being the Browns to begin with,
but he's trying to navigate those waters. And so to me,
I just I just wonder if they continue to have
the type of season that they're having and they're not
able to really turn it around. What does that look
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like for? You know, what does that look like for
the Browns? They're one one team right now? But you
have a super super dope coach, and I don't think
anyone would dispute that he has a dope coach.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
But you are what your record says you are.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
So then now the question becomes, if this is another
season where they come up short, what does that look like?
You know, he's talking about development and development of the
players as it applied to him, talking being about asked
about Shador Sanders. What does development look like when you're facing,
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you know, possibly losing your job. It's a curious thing
the position to be in. But I find I find
it interesting that the Cleveland Browns has created such a
almost like a dilemma because what do you replace that with?
What do you replace Stefanski with? You did go in
a different direction if they didn't have a good year,
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what do you replace them with? And what is that
coach going to do or what is that GM going
to do to make the Browns better?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
So Zach Taylor and Kevin Stefanski are both seven games
under five hundred as far as their record goes like,
but it feels like you've got to add some nuance
to each of them to have a real discussion about it,
that it's not so black and white, because I mean,
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Joe Burrow's injured, so what does that do Watson exactly.
So that's why I look at it and I go, don't.
I don't think either guy should be judged for that.
But I wonder if the organization's just looking at this gone, yeah,
but we could have been better, you know, like I know,
I know they were in a tough spot, but we
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could have been better, and it well, okay, I just
it feels like they're just they're in a situation where
they can't help the fact that their quarterbacks couldn't stay healthy.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
It's true, But here's here's what LaVar is getting to.
If someone has to take the fall. We've talked about
this before, like when seasons don't go right, you can't
just sell it, oh well, we're just looking at the
next year. That's not how it works. Someone has to
take the fall. So they'll be an internal battle. It'll
be between Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski, and they'll have
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to determine who they feel like they I mean, look
and maybe STEFANSI said, I'm tired of this. I know
I'm a good coach. I know I'll get hired elsewhere.
We'll see what jobs come open, and maybe I go there.
But there will be an internal struggle, and there will
be at some point someone on the shopping block and
it'll be you know, everyone you know, looking to try
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to save themselves or justify what they've done, which I
think both coaches can make cases, right, Like, if you're
Andrew Berry, you've got a pretty solid roster. It's a
really good roster. Just to Jonas's point, the quarterback position
struggle to you know, execute and struggle to stay healthy.
So that's played a role against it. And if you're Stefanski,
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you know you've been able to make chicken salad out
of chicken. You don't want to roll. Yeah, I know
could have been third this I know, so close. But
that's that's where we're at. Like that's how this works too.
So to your point, LeVar, like when you ask if
he's in the hot seat, probably, but I also theelk
Andrew Berry is too. And here's a tough thing about
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like looking back at the Hugh Jackson years, who you
know I don't know if his loss suit is still
going on or if that's gone away. I know Ryan
Flores is going on. He just got a nice win.
Actually that should help his claims. But my general point is,
you know Andrew Barry, that was like him and Paul
de Podesta and the whole crew they bought into the
(15:13):
open sixteen one to fifteen years. That was their strategy.
It was the whole moneyball from baseball and then trying
to build back up to the draft and accumulating all
these picks. And they did it. But the problem is
they forget It's like they forgot their luggage, like they
forgot the most important piece when they went on the trip,
and that was the quarterback and then extend Baker Mayfield.
(15:34):
And I don't know how much Jimmy Haslam had to
do with that versus the rest of the front office
or whoever made that decision, but that was the decision
that ultimately led them to this point. And if it's
the owner, if it was Jimmy haslm and made it,
which I think it was, and probably why he emotionally
moved on to Sean Watson and did what he did
and gave that contract that look, it was his money,
(15:55):
so you know it's it's a waste, but it's a
waste of his money and he's wealthy, so and do
whatever he wants. But the truth of the matter is,
I don't know how you hold then Kevin Stefanski responsible
even though they made the playoffs in a year that
was a disaster and he somehow figured it out or
Andrew Barry in that case either, Like ultimately, you know,
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if that's the justification that come out as the owner
at the end of the season and say I've involved
myself too much to the point where I need to
take a step back. I need to let the guys
I hire do their thing and give them time to
see what it looks like, because that's what I feel
like the biggest issue with this organization is, and I
know I've said before, he's throwing money at it, which is,
(16:38):
you know, more than some owners are willing to do.
But ultimately, if he's meddling in the decision making, he's
playing a role, but he doesn't want to take any
accountability that point them blame on someone else. Well, I
guess that's not like a rich man's game, right, that's
what you do is you just hire people to fire
them and blame them for your decisions. That's where it
feels like it's headed. If that's the case.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Did we discuss the text that you sent over yet
of the the commitment financial aid to quarterbacks for the Browns?
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Yeah, we have it.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
So the updated Browns. This is from SPO track, the
updated Brown's twenty twenty five quarterback cap hits. Jameis Winston
two point two million dollars dead cap hit, Dylan Gabriel
one point one million, Joe Flacco nine hundred ninety nine
thousand dead cap, Shardor Sanders nine hundred and fifty five thousand,
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Deshaun Watson thirty five point nine million published, Bailey Zappy
three hundred and fifteen thousand dollars, Pea Squad, Dorian Thompson
Robinson one hundred and seventy one thousand dead cap, Kenny
Pickett eight thousand dead cap. So there's there's a lot
of Uh, there's.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
Over forty million dollars of dead money to quarterbacks who
are not on the roster. Over forty million. Now, mind you,
that's like one seventh of the salary cap this year.
I believe the salary CAP's like two hundred and eighty million,
So one seventh of their salary cap is devoted to
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dead cap. Dead cap for players at one position who
aren't there anymore or at least not active on the roster.
Think about that, and look, the Lion's share of that
goes to Shaun Watson, which goes back to the initial
point about Jimmy Haslam and getting too involved in these
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decisions and emotionally trying to make up for whatever falling
out he had with Baker Mayfield. So that's on him.
But still it's just it's been a revolving door, man.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I mean, there have been some reports that Deshaun's post
and workout videos that uh maybe all over social type.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
I can't see it, like Cam Newton workouts or they
like Ron Jeremy workouts like which one.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I don't know. I think he blocked pretty much everybody
at Fox Sports Radio, so he can't really go on
there to see. But he uh, you know, he's on
on the X or is it on the Instagram. I'm
not sure I can go Look. I'm certain he hasn't
blocked me, but I mean, you know, what what if
he I mean at this point, if if everybody else
is going to get a turn, you know, if it's
(19:16):
like you know, community quarterback room there to where everybody
gets an opportunity to play. I mean, you know, if
he comes back later out of the season, maybe uh,
maybe Deshaun gets out there.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
And you want to know what's coincidental about his workout video?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
What's that.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
He's rocking a gatorade tawl and a lot of the
the video.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Well, he's got to have something to set his stuff on.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
I was gonna say, he's a shield.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Yeah, what do you want to do? What type of.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Shoe case he goes in the battle? He needs a shield?
All of those hard towels he's got.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Oh okay, he's got he's got a gatorade table.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
You know it's good.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
He's got a fre hey hey, let me tell you something.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
All right, this is more of a scarf. But he's
I mean, he may have an infatuation with like objects
towel Like look at this one.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Well it would be something if you figure out a
way of wrapping towels into like every part of his fashion,
and that way he'd always be ready.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I mean, you see the one I just said Joe.
I mean, yeah, that man profiling.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
It's weird, you know, It's just the whole thing's very,
very bizarre.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
He's into towels, man, I mean he's got a towel
on and pretty much every every post I'm looking at.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Right, he's probably an extra owl guy at at hotels. Right,
that's his request, like any special requests extra towels, like
how many, how many you got.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
A big old stack?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
How many you got that's the first request.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Yeah, he's just they like they actually them for stealing
the cleaning lady cart my card go.
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Please, hease, I'll keep the wind necks, give me your towels. Well, hey,
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Speaker 3 (24:37):
Song is this, I don't know, sound like tree hugging music?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (24:43):
This is America?
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
This is?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
This is Lorena's Coos Bay collection some classic music. What? Yeah?
This is organ stuff right here?
Speaker 4 (24:53):
Is that stually a good song?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Thank you? When's the good part? Start right now? Out
of it?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I mean it's done a little bit better than the
shovel stronger.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Yeah, so what.
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Speaker 3 (25:14):
I'm holdly, I'm sorry, cute. I can't go with you
on this one.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
That's fine. Maybe I'll make that my next song. We'll see.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I would love that. Yeah, but when are we supposed
to do that? We haven't had these current intro songs
that long. I think it was the start of the
football stop.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
They've been long enough. You're the worst when it comes
to change and stuff. You're like, Nope, I wanted to
be just how it was in the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Like to let it marinate. Yeah, let people really get
a good glimpse into what our music tastes are like
before I switch it up. So I don't know your
By the way, do you guys have a Do you
guys have songs already picked out for the new intro
new opens to each hour?
Speaker 4 (25:55):
I always have another one watch always always which but
I've got just in case you'll let me replace yours. Jonas,
what you going with?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
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Speaker 1 (26:08):
To disclose stripper.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Uh no no, no, I like to you know, catch
you off guard. So it'll be something that y'all weren't expecting.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Maybe like got some hate Breed Slayer something like that.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
No, all right, no, but we'll get to it. Gat man,
what are we talking about?
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Whatever sports. I know, whatever you pick, it's going to
be hot.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Yeah, definitely will be hot, like yeah, spicy hot, like
the spicy hotness of Louisiana hot sauce. That's right. Hey, listen, man,
you can put that on your your burgers. You could
put it on your nachos. You could even put it
on clam chowder. I don't get it, but Jonas likes
(26:58):
to do it and whatever food.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Oh no, well, any anyone you like putting your hot
sauce on you know, it could be a burger, it
doesn't matter. You hit a tailgate, you hit that food
with that bold, handcrafted flavor of the original Louisiana hot sauce.
All right, that's Louisiana hot. Make sure you buy you some.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Oh yeah, yeah, so Baker may I'll make that my
next intro song.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Do a good job with that, yeah, bake. Baker Mayfield's
having himself a year, and he talked yesterday about the
narratives changing, about his uh, his fired up personality, his
temperament on the football field.
Speaker 8 (27:41):
Let's take a listen, sold you guys try and not
get to high, not get too low, which is something
that I was not doing early on in my career.
But you know, early on in my career, yeah, it's
looked as cocky, immature. Now it's moxie. He's a dog's
same different days. Just as long as you play well,
they change the narrative. But you just got to be yourself.
I've always been like that, all right.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
So we've got movement on Baker Mayfield in the MVP conversation.
So yesterday he was sitting at eight to one behind
Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. Here you go on DraftKings.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Now that is amazing, by the way he's put go ahead.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Well, now he's plus six fifty.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
I would put Baker and Dak honestly up. There is
two of the favorites agreed. Where's Dak after Baker.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Dak's thirty to one.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
That's amazing, playing really well. I mean again, Baker A Baker.
I feel like he's playing as good as anyone in
the league right now.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
He is, he's playing well, he's playing well. You know,
it's interesting his take because he's so right.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
He is so right. It's so easy to pick.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
On guys and scrutinize guys that are in very tough
situations you know that come from such a high you know,
a high ranking, a high rating from from college.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Was skinning personal, no.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
All not No, I wasn't personal. No, no, I wasn't
hit towards personal. I just I can recall how people
talked about Baker Mayfield even while he was in college.
It was like he was the next Johnny Manziel, right,
he was being compared to Johnny Manzil in terms of
him being so white enerjet.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Well that too, I guess mn stupid.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
I would say this though, that always was so inaccurate
to me, Like there was nothing in Baker's game that
resembled Johnny. There really wasn't, Like if you watch the film,
he didn't play like Johnny. He even even the way
he conducted himself, like, well, there's some moments of cockiness.
That the whole Lawrence Kansas thing grabbing the crotch, there's
(30:03):
some instances of stuff, but it was he was all
about ball though, Like let's be real about it, Like
he was all about ball, and Johnny was like it
was everything else too. So I never understood that. But
that's what he got.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
He got that, he got that whatever it was, whether
it was the wave, whether it was the blowback, whatever
it was, Baker Mayfield was compared to Johnny Manziel in
terms of being brash and you know, being outgoing and
all those different things, and.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
It followed him to the league.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
It follows you, man, Stuff like that follows you, and
it's very difficult to ever clear your name or because
it becomes like your brand.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
It becomes a part of who you are, whether you
like it or not.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
And it's it's great to see that Baker Mayfield has
gotten an opportunity to actually play himself out of more
often than players cannot get out of of the webbing
of what's created based upon what the public perception is.
Whether it's misconception or whether it's accurate, doesn't even matter
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because it's just what it is, and before you know it,
that person's out of the league.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
They're out of the league, and.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
That's how their story is written. But he has done
an excellent job of becoming the player. Well, I won't
even say he's done an excellent job, because like you said,
he's always been a fine football player. He's always been
a good ball player, and it probably was premature to
let him go. If you're Cleveland I mean, who knows
(31:40):
where Cleveland's at right now with the roster they have
if they had just kept Baker Mayfield. But we do
know that he's having a positive impact on the Tampa
Bay Buccaneers and that should be stated.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
I mean, he had to bounce around. This is fourth team, guys,
the number one pick, it's his fourth team and he
had to take over for Tom Brady in Tampa and
has been top five quarterback in the NFL over the
past couple of years. I mean, you can make the argument,
and he just seems like they whatever, whatever he is,
(32:19):
he's perfect for that team. Like that team loves that guy.
And it's kind of cool to see. And we talked
about a little bit last week that you've got Baker
Mayfield and Sam Darnold facing off and these were two
guys that were competing for the starting job in Carolina
and they're two of the best quarterbacks in the conference.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
And by the way, Baker's always been loved. That was
one of the things rememberhen John Dorris and the Browns
drafted Baker number one overall. John Dorsey told a story
about how he's like, yeah, he's like the pied piper,
like he walked into the Oakhim indoor and he's did
this whistle and everyone just kind of knew to go goe.
They're supposed to be. You know, they have all the receivers,
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tight ends running back. Say a like went right where
they're supposed to be. He's like, it's always been that way.
Talk to guys who play with them in Cleveland, talk
to guys who've been on other teams with them, like,
he's always been a very likable, you know player. It's
just being in the right situation and circumstances. And I
think what you just mentioned though about taking over for
Tom it's you know, a Ton didn't have as much
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equity built up with the Tampa Bay you know, fan
base like he did in New England. But he did
bring up a Super Bowl. And you know, you think
about just for filling in those shoes and trying to
do it in your own way. It's so hard to do.
It's hard for coaches to do that, like Cavin de
Boor right now in Alabama trying to fill in for
a legend Nick Saban, and it's and it's almost impossible.
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I think the thing that I appreciate the most about
Baker and hearing his comments, and what he just said
is he's never once deviated from who he is. He's
just like, I'm gonna do it like how I know
how to do it, and I'm gonna keep working at
it and eventually it's gonna work. And it has. Like
if you look at his career, he was the Big
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twelve freshman player of the Year. When he's at Texas Tech,
he transfers to Oklahoma, he ends up winning a Heisman there,
you know, goes over as a number one overall pick,
takes the Browns into the playoffs. They beat Pittsburgh in
the playoffs. It's as far as you know they've been
in recent history. You know. Then it's kind of some
soul searching from there. But you look at what he's
doing now with the Bucks. I mean, if you give
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a time like he'll figure it out, he'll do it,
and he's gonna do it his way. And I think
I think that though in Tampa, what he's done is
it was a much more difficult task than people realize
how hard it is to try to go in there
and replace someone who's a first ballot maybe the greatest ever.
I think many people would say in Tom Brady, So
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I'm not happy for him. Man, he's he's fun to watch.
I mean, that's that's the other thing, like the fiery nests.
If there's one common denominator between Tom and Min Baker,
the firing neus they both have, it's pretty freaking awesome.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah, it's a good story. Good for him and uh
kind of shut the highlights the fact that you know,
you get drafted to a bag of crap. Then you know,
some careers just never the same after that.
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you're like serial killer good looking, like Q is like
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Speaker 4 (36:34):
There is a certain smile you make Jonas to Levar's
point where I feel like I'm like, he could be
a serial killer.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
You know what, That's the nicest thing I've ever been told.
Thank you. There you go, sexy serial killer.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I mean people be throwing their brawls and patties at
them dudes when they be getting taken away from court.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Yeah, it is weird. Yeah, the nightstalker had I mean
he had news, he did have hose, Yeah, group, he
did have hoes. Good point. It is two pros and
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(37:35):
the NFL. But it is time to hand out an
award on this show. And you know, some people like
to take the lazy approach to this when they're talking about, hey,
who gets the award this week? They like to go
by stats all right, to who's got the most touchdown,
who's got the most yards, who's got this in that
we take a different approach. It's time for the Express
(37:56):
pros Pro of the Week, and the pro of the
week this week goes too. McCaffrey shifts out from under center,
mac Shoe's.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Takes Penny throws It's a touchdown, touchdown forty nine ers.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
On the opening drive of the game.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
A couple of.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Penalties and they can't be stopped.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Mac Jones is going to back out from under center.
Speaker 7 (38:14):
He puts McCaffrey out in the slot to the left.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Max Jones closed McCaffrey. Please got it.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Forty nine ers, forty nine ers. Radio Network on the call.
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A two touchdown performance from mac Jones last Thursday night,
(38:47):
and all of this gets him the Express Pros Pro
the Week, especially considering he reportedly saw a dead body
at the team hotel before the game. Really, yeah, if
there was a report there that, uh he saw a body,
he saw a body floating into the water.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Did anyone investigate that? Did he just say it?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I don't know? That's that was Apparently the authority showed up,
you know, uh, got some snorkels and went in there
to go, uh to go figure out what the the
object was. But yeah, mac Jones reportedly saw a dead
body before that game, And so when you factor that
in with the fact that he was going into full
blown body cramps and still pull that a win. Yeah,
(39:37):
I believe it or not? Like an artist, Yeah so
kind of uh, kind of an interesting Diana Rassini was
the one to report that. By the way, dead body.
Uh so it's impressive. Okay, it's impressive, but what would
you do? Why not?
Speaker 3 (40:04):
I can't believe you did. Jonas, you lobbed it out there.
I believe I can't believe you didn't catch all it.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
But it is what it is. But the day reported
uh Mac Jones in a dead body. She's doing a
research all right, trying to get to the bottom of
this stuff. And also, by the way, Rock Purty still
hasn't practice, so maybe info. Maybe I didn't say nothing, man,
(40:34):
Ray Ray, don't get involved, but you're putting down Ray Ray.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Always takes like it's some sports into sexual pretty quick.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Well, I mean she's got insider information too.
Speaker 5 (40:47):
I wasna say.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Was I wrong though?
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Is that what you're leaning towards for?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
I don't think. I don't know what I'm leaning to.
I'm not leaning towards anything. Would you be a professional
raight Ray? Please tang right I'm button up my tie
right now, get your.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
Head out of the gutter.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Reray, you can get some python in your mouth. Man,
that's really good jerky. By the way, jeez. And by
the way, yeah, they were handing out.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Uh, what's that that I'm touching that, I'm touching that.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Oh that's a real story though, python jerky. You've got
python jerky.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
I'm just saying I wasn't wrong.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
I'm just saying I'm not touched on in your mouth.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
I mean it's jerky. Yeah, that's not the same type
of snake. Pythons don't rattle up the frame.
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