November 7, 2025 • 39 mins
The guys react to Paul DePodesta leaving the front office of the Cleveland Browns to take a job with maybe the worst franchise in professional sports right now. Brady gives his picks for this weekend in college football in the latest edition of Quinn's Wins. Plus, could Pat Fitzgerald be returning to college football?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:57):
I'm watching a movie of your people. You and your people,
bro dust down.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Great movie.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, your whole crew up in here. Man.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
That is is that the one with yes God?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yes, yes, yes yes, the the like the the reason
why she sell my high act? Yes, I mean that desperado.
You know, it's crazy. Every time we were not yet,
not yet, you kind of give me Antonio Bender's vibes,
you know, but man, the vampire.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
It though it hasn't. Wasn't he in a vampire movie?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Wasn't there?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah there's another one.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Oh yes, man, I.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Just yeah, buddy, yeah, oh yeah, that was an amazing
looking python. Man, I'll tell you what, like was that
a python or a bowl constrictor maybe it's a python?
What is the yellow?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Tang?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Okay, she's fifty nine years old. Good for her, still gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yes, yeah, yeah, but and ducks to down that. It's
a little different. It just it's a little different, that's all.
It's a little different.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
All right. Oh, I gotta get off this real quick.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
All right, whoa jon? What is that doing?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
There's just there's something that uh, you know, you just
do a search and all of a sudden, it just
like pops right in your face and you go, okay,
what do you mean? You guys ever played that game
Battleship back in the day?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Oh yeah, you sunk my battle. She's still got she's
got to tang.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
She got a couple of torpedoes.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
She's winning.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Well, those are called battleships. Torpedoes come from the battleships,
you know.
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the way, Var, I saw your daughter on TV today.
(03:19):
Got to say that, Yeah, she was a it was
a yeah, replay of Oregon UCLA volleyball and she was
on FS one.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
How about that?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah? How tall is she?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Uh? Five eleven?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
No way, it's gotta be taller than that.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
She's tall six foot.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, you knew what you were doing. You knew exactly
what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Man, Look here, And that's not even for fun. That's
that's like for real talk, bro.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I know that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
You gotta go for a genetic.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Uh let's tell you what. LaVar and Shopper they are
on the same page and so.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Many things you gotta go for.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Genetics can't cut it.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
If you can't cut it, you can't cut it. Man.
You know, and life doesn't. Life doesn't say, oh, you
can't cut it, don't worry, We'll hook you up here
like you fit in right here. Like life doesn't do it.
You gotta figure that out. So if you can make
it as seamless and as not easy, but you give
them the tools to be able to do it, and
then then you do what you do. But for what
(04:22):
it's worth. My dad is five ten and my mom
is five five, so, but my granddad was six four,
so I happened to get my granddad. I don't know,
you know, my brother, my older brother is five ten,
my younger brother's six foot. So it's like I don't know.
Every once in a while, you know, you hit that
(04:43):
that it is what it is. But I'm trying to
keep keep the line strong. So you know, all my
kids are are over six foot, you know what I mean,
you know, and they tough, they're warriors. You know, they
bring it to.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
You all too, huh.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I think she's going to be taller than all of us.
Actually yeah, and she's you know, we got her involved earlier.
She's doing she's doing beach volleyball now earlier, so that
she'll have all of the skills that do to one
handed throw up to us skis Yeah, the skills. Skills
that's connected to the game, the skills, you know. So yeah,
(05:21):
it's good man. Thanks, I appreciate that shout out.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Man, What up bugs?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, well that's that's route. Yeah. Is the cheerleader? Bugs?
Is the cheerleader?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
What up to all of them?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah? Well there you go, all right.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
So with that being said, what up to all of them?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
For that being said, Congratulations to Paul de Podesta, who
spent ten years with the Cleveland Browns only to realize,
you know, this place kind of sucks. So he decided
I'm gonna leave here and I'm gonna go ahead and
take over the Colorado Rockies, who also are the worst
(06:02):
team in professional sports possibly they are awful, and so
Paul Dibadesta, after all these years, was like, that'll do
it for me. He is going to take over as
the He leaves his the Browns as a chief strategy officer,
he heads back to Major League Baseball. He's going to
take over the baseball ops department for the Rockies. He
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spent time obviously with the Dodgers. Back in the day
with the A's he was the second to Billy being
there in Oakland with the A's, the whole moneyball stuff.
He spent time with the Padres. Then he took the
task of going to the NFL, went to the Browns
and after ten years Sayonara, I'm going back to Colorado
to be a member of the Rockies and try and
(06:43):
turn around that terrible franchise. So huh, fun stuff to
take a.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Lot of cores and smoke some wheed. That's what he's
going to do. But good, he's good, he'd be nice.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
I think it's a really interesting case study to look
at the past decade and what he was able to
do or not do for that matter. They had two
winning seasons of the span he was there. You arguably
had the worst tenure or span ever, which was largely
done due to him and the others involved that wanted
(07:18):
to tank. So you went from a three and thirteen
to a one and fifteen to an zero to sixteen
stretch in three years. I mean imagine that, and they
forced Cleveland Browns fans to endure that.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Now, it did net you some great players out of it.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Unfortunately, the one that probably mattered the most in Baker Mayfield.
They let go, and so he takes him to a playoff,
they win a wildcard game, and yet they couldn't figure
out a long term deal. And so yeah, you get
to an eleven six record. You know, Joe Flacco kind
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of comes in, saves the day a quarterback by committee
three and fourteen the next year than obviously two and
six this year. So it's just it's tough because you
look at what he was trying to implement. Jonas mentioned
Billy Bean, you know, he was a part of the
group with Moneyball, were really looking into the analytics of
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how you can essentially spend less and you know, find
a higher floor if you will, for your team. And
I just sit there and say, why is why would
Cleveland want to mimic Moneyball? Like that's a cheap ass
way of doing it. And when has that proven to
have worked? Are we going to say the Patriots, like,
(08:42):
I don't feel like Robert Kraft, even though some people
have considered him maybe cheap in some ways.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
They had Bill Belichick, they had Tom Brady.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
I don't know that we ever viewed them as being
one of the worst spenders or the one of the
least spenders. You know, in the NFL, so like, like,
who do you compare what they were trying to do
in Cleveland to anyone else in the NFL. It felt
like it was a tenure that lasted probably too long.
(09:12):
It was out of touch with what the NFL does
or you need to do in order to win. And
then the last thing I'd just say is, if you're
looking at the Browns model, like shouldn't you be trying
to replicate Philly? Should you be trying to replicate San
Francisco some of these other franchise that can build a
stack roster. Now, again, they've done a good job in
(09:34):
some positions, they just haven't been able to hit on
some of the right stuff and it hasn't equated to
enough wins. And maybe you put that on Kevin Stefanski
or some of their prior head coaches, you know, obviously
Hugh Jackson. They went through that that really dark, you know,
period of time. Freddy Kitchens was there for a year.
I mean, it's it's it was.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
A mess, honestly.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
But I sit there and looking and I just go,
is this a sign? You know, you saw Kevin Stefanski
give up play calling, dude is to Tommy Reese Paul D.
Podesta now looks like he's jumping for a life raft
somewhere else?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Is it? Is it time there's gonna be sweeping.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Changes after the season, because it kind of feels like
it's heading in that direction the way things are going.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
It's nine players that are on the baseball diamond at
one point in time, along with the one player on
the opponent. That that makes it ten the batter, right Like,
It's not like to me how many how many players
are on a baseball team's roster?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Right? No, because you get a.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Lot of pitchers too active MLB roster is yeah, twenty five,
I believe.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I just don't think that the things that you have
to kind of negotiate and understand as it applies to
a sport where there are so many pitchers, right, how
many how many outfielders do you have? Right? Like? How
many right right field, left field, center field?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Twenty six? By the way, Ryan Bersching are twenty six?
Clarification all.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I just I just I dang, oh my gosh. I
just think that there's so ment, so many more moving
parts to being able to manage a football team versus
managing a baseball team. I really do like I like
(11:41):
the intensity of what you have to deal with, Like,
I almost feel like the personality traits have to be different,
and I guess in baseball it is too, but it's
just not as many. Like the personality traits of an
offensive lineman, you got to look for those that are
specific in particular to how you're going to get a
(12:01):
successful group to do it up front. On that side
of the ball. It's going to be different for the
defensive linemen. They're they're both linemen, but yet they're very,
very vastly different. The contrasts are different, and you got
to figure out what that personality looks like for the linebackers.
And then back on to the safeties and oh, by
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the way, the personality of the defensive ends are different
than the personalities of the defensive tackles and the noseguards.
The personalities of the corners are very different than the
personalities of the safeties, like the mentalities of them. Same
thing with receivers, right, receivers and corners are very relatable
because they're very selfish people. Because it's a very self
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driven position, like you're all by yourself, you're all alone.
Then the quarterback, you can't miss on the quarterback, and
more often than not, it seems to be misses than
there are wins with quarterbacks in the league. I just
think there is so many moving parts to try to
put together piece together that if you're trying the moneyball
(13:11):
moneyball players like I like, I look at it like, okay,
if you're trying to look at the analytics, this says
that this is the guy to get. I feel like
you're looking at a quarterback, like if you narrow it
down to one person, I can see or one position.
I could see that. But how does that apply in
building an entire franchise. I don't you know, I don't
(13:34):
see how that can work. It's just too much that
goes into it. Are you getting your coaches that way?
Are you moneyballing getting your coaching staff? Because that plays
a major part in development, And even if it's not development,
maybe they it's just more of schematics. How do they
learn the schemes, how do they integrate and implement into
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taking that into the games. There's so many moving parts
that I just don't think you can take a baseball
approach into football and it be successful. It's I just
don't see how it would.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
It's also like the moneyball narrative is kind of crap too,
Like everyone to, oh my god, they nickel and dimed
their way to the postseason. They had like three of
the top pitchers in baseball. Like that, we're already there.
Like there's a lot of that story that's just bs
that sort of you know, manipulated into a movie and
a feature film. And I remember, I still remember this
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is like early on in deep Podesta's tenure to where
everyone's like, god, what sort of effect he's he can
have on the team. You remember Brady when they traded
for brock Osweiler and they like gave up a pick
or whatever it was, they.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Did something they took on his contract or a second.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Round and I remember people think, oh, this is the
Paul Dee Podesta effect, this is the moneyball effect. They're
taking this and it's almost like they just kept waiting
and waiting, and the fact of the matter is, no,
like you need good players, and you had Baker Mayfield,
you let him walk and then and you signed Deshaun
Watson and gave away way too much draft capital and
(15:05):
then it didn't work out like that. That's really those
that's the move that you look at and go, why
is the franchise at where it's at. It's that I like,
the whole Moneyball thing just felt like crap. It just
felt like a garbage narrative going into it.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
The past four years, they've probably spent more than anyone
if you actually look at like the money spent allocating
in their cap and so I don't even really know
how much of an impact Paul Dipadesta had outside of
the early years and going through that that oh to
sixteen one and fifteen, you know, those initial years where
he was a part of really a team tanking, they've
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kind of load up in draft capital and yeah, again
you found those foundational players, but you know, at some
point it just didn't work out.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
And you know they following up in their contracts.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Obviously Miles Garrett has, but not for Baker Mayfield and
not and then those are the two most critical pieces.
So look, I'm sure there's many Browns who probably don't
really care about him being there or not, to be
quite honest, well, and I don't even know his impact,
Like it would be interesting to see behind the scenes
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how big of an impact he had, and even them
evaluating whether Deshaun Watson was the right move. Well, if
that was just all Jimmy HASLM. I mean, my feeling
with all of this is, you know, maybe he's leaving
because he feels like there will be changes after the
season and he feels a little bit, like I said,
he's handcuffed because it feels like, of late, the model
(16:34):
they've utilized is throwing a bunch of cash at things,
and with Watson, it didn't work out, and they should
have picked Mayfield and unfortunately that's.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
What led them to this point.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
And so if that's the case, then like he probably
didn't have any impact at least the last four or
five years, or at least, you know, half his tenure.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
The he was with Cleveland, the Rockies finished fifty games
back in the division. They won forty three in the year,
So how bad. So how obvious is it that there's
going to be turnover in Cleveland that he's like, you
know what, I'll go take over that. That's also got
the defending world champions in the same division, Like, I'll
(17:14):
just go take that over because Stefanci's given up play calling,
he's already out. It's yeah, it to Brady's point, it
just feels like there's going to be some changes there
after the year, Like this is sort of a Hey,
everybody enjoyed the ride while you got it, and then
after the season, we'll see where we're at with everything,
and then they're gonna be uh, they're gonna be back
in the market for you know, maybe a new GM
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a head coach and going from there.
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Speaker 1 (19:00):
The word though triumphant.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
It is time for dal the week eleven edition of.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
This I'm a Winner list winning heres all illnesses.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
It really does, I'm going to win.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
It's Quinn's wins all right.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
We're not going to talk about Week ten because we
were basically a game away from being five hundred and
it was just an awful, awful bad beat Uva Verus
cow a pick six with less than thirty seconds left
to hit the cover for Uva. Anyway, we found some
trends though, unders over unders We've hit on one last
week in the Georgia game. This week it's Kentucky hosting Florida.
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Two good defenses in the SEC, but also too got
a bad offenses. And this has been more of a
trend for Kentucky of late. You recall, took Texas into overtime,
took him to the ropes. This over under said a
forty five and a half Florida's riddle with injuries. This
always kind of feels like that Mark stoops late in
the year, gets a good win at home over someone
(20:02):
they probably shouldn't beat. In this case, I believe Kentucky
is a three and a half point three point dog
somewhere in that vicinity, but I like the under better
than anything else here to start off Today's Quinns wins.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Next up, and you'll see a trend here too. A
lot of.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Dogs, all right, it's a dog pick. UCLA hosting Nebraska. Now,
Nebraska just lost Dylan Ryola for the remainder of the season.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
But Nebraska showed me something.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Matt Rules building a program there in Nebraska. The way
he's got the defense playing, they can run the rocket
a little bit. Latif will take over at quarterback more
of a mobile quarterback, the offense will look a little
bit different, which is one of the reasons why I
feel like they ended up giving up that game to
Southern cal Mostly because, I mean, Ryle is one of
more prolific passers. Latif is a little better balancing things
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out with his legs. So I think they're getting one
and a half on the road at UCLA. I'll gladly
take the point half. Not sure they necessarily need it. Jonas,
keep me honest too. With somebody spreads, I know they
tend to change in the last twelve hours from when I.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Last looked at them.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Oh yeah, I'm on it all right.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Next up here in Iowa City, a.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Big one in the Big Ten, the Hawkeyes hosting the
Oregon Ducks. Oregon kind of hitting them the teeth of
their schedule now coming to an Iowa Hawkeye team is
one of the better defenses in college football, one of
the better rushing teams in college football. Mark Gronowski, their quarterback.
He's been phenomenal. I think he's got eleven rushing touchdowns
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in a season. That's more than Baylor. That's more than
North Carolina rushing the football. It's more than South Carolina
rushing the football so they can get after.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Him and Oregon's weakness. It's been the running game.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
If you looked at their lost Indiana for example, got
dominated physically there, Northwestern, even Penn State.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I thought both those teams had a better.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Job holding the line of scrimmage versus them, even though
Oregan was able to pull it out. So I like
Iowa getting six and a half at home, crazy Environ
if you haven't been here, it's one of the better
venues in college football. But I think Iowa keeps us
one close, not even maybe pulling off the upset. All right,
Next up, we've got three more favorites for you. LSU
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headed down to Tuscaloos at Tee Town to take on Bama.
Bama's laying nine and a half at least last time
I checked. I'd normally say this line's too big. I'm
just not sure where this LSU team is. I think
it's a bad matchup for LSU. Two, They're on the road,
they can't run the football, they have a hard time
stopping the run. It just gives me the feels that
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Bama's gonna run all over him. At this point, LSU
has got a lot of players who are probably looking
on to next year's draft at this point. Next up,
West Virginia hosting Colorado. Juju lewis the highly touted freshman.
We'll get his first start on the road. Taken on Juju,
He's taken on one of the more high pressure defenses
(22:56):
in college football. Zach Ally, the defensive cooridated blitz is
over fifty percent of the time, so tough sledding. West
Virginia come off a huge win versus Houston last week,
the Land six and a half. Last time I checked,
we're gonna lay the six and a half points here
with the Mountaineers. And then finally Clemson lane two and
a half at home versus Florida State. Look, I'm still
(23:17):
a believer in this Clemson team. I'm not gonna give up.
I know it's a tough loss last week versus Duke.
I think they rebound here and it tells you by
the way where Duke is compared to Florida State in
my mind. But Adam Randall has done a good job
running the football, arguably his best game last week in
that Duke loss, lay the two and a half points.
Clemson comes away with a win and that's it for
this week's Quinns wins, Quins wins.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Nae.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
It gets me every time.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I know, hey man, it's really good. Bro. All right?
Does it take like you're like a prepper guy, Like,
how how long does it take for you to prep all.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
That Stuff'll appreciate this?
Speaker 5 (24:00):
I go off vibes, so I initially and by the way,
people are listening are probably like, well, you're an idiot
because you're not even doing well this year in college,
which is true.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
So maybe fade me if you want. By the way,
how many of those lines have changed?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Florida Kentucky the over unders forty four and a half.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, so it's moved down a point, which makes sense.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Alabama.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Alabama's up to ten a ten point favorite, and Clemson
is down to a one and a half point favorite.
So I don't hope you know the hope there?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Huh No. I usually go through and I look, you
said one and a half.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Yeah, I'll I look at which spreads look off to
me just having watched these teams play, and I'll say, okay,
you know that team is favored by too much or
you know, not enough, and I'll get a general sense.
Then I've kind of watched out the course of the
week how the lines move it after they open, and
then obviously I'm watching more tape of it too, so
(24:56):
I'm getting kind of a different feel for maybe how
they match up, look at the injury or poor.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Uh, it all depends.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
But you know, to me, like that's the fun of
of you know, the games in college football is I've
got the ability to see so much and get a
feel for, like how I think things are gonna play
out now again, like you have a bad beat like
Uva and Cal where that thing was in the bag
five and a half points. You know, UV is up three,
there's thirty seconds left or whatever. You know, you chalk
(25:23):
it up as a loss. But in all fairness, like
that situation very rarely plays out.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
You were on the right side of that.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
That was on the right side of that is Pete
Prisco would say, so, Grandpa Prisco, he's taught us so much.
Do you know he's got I was gonna start making
him T shirts. Like he's got all these sayings, like
he'll say, what's good for me is good for me?
What you are, you are, what you are? You know
he always will.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Show for me it's good for me. It's a great one.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I love that show up.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I love that saying I live to call me the
quarterback defender.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
We would always whenever he said I was on the
right side of that bet or whatever, he'd also go,
but you were.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
It's just he Papadakis and Pete prisco Ever like talked
on radio together.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
No, and they're like East Coast West Coast mixes.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I don't know that it'd be a good mix.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
It's like East Coast West Coast curmudgeons, though, like it's
like that, the West Coast brand of it, the East
Coast brand of it. I think it would make for
interesting And well, what's.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
What's amazing about Pete, And this is what I appreciate
is he's unfiltered. He doesn't hold back, and he's able
to say how he feels in the fewest amount of
words I've ever seen, Like his brevity is incredible. And
then and the best part about it is like something
tragic could have happened in that player's life and he
just go he stinks he can't play, should be on
(26:55):
the field, feel that for him, But he stinks.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
He's just gonna keep it real, Like that's that's the
bottom line.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
That's how Pete is. He always has been, always will be. Man,
he's awesome.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Shouts out to Pete. What Pete?
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, what up, Pete? What's he doing? What's he doing today?
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Just taking out because Pete, how much time? How much
prep does he put into his picks? Because he takes
those very seriously.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Uh, outside of watching the games, I think he doesn't
really do anything more than that.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
But yeah, I mean, I mean that's probably why he
lost every year.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
How you feel about these picks this week? Like you
were under five hundred bout one last week? That like
you feel good, it's a bounce back week.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
I had actually like four more, four more. Actually, I'll
be honest, No, I don't feel great about anything anymore.
I'm second guessing everything. At this point in my college
football picks, I was I was flip flopping through a
number of games that I just ended up taking off altogether.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I actually had four more games I was gonna pick.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Then I realized it was probably too much for her
for our shows, like I'll be talking for way too long,
So I took off four of those. I've might have
flip flopped on one of these picks too. So no,
it's a disastrous season for me in college football betting.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah, but you know what, look at all those bowl
games you're gonna have, Like, there's plenty of time.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Here to No, I know, that's why.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
That's why I said, like the last week of the
regular season in college football, I may just go heavy
on everything.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
You know, we want to go money line, like take
the money line approach if you want to get extra
credit points on that.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Oh, you're gonna hate our picks against the spread them
this week.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, I'm already dreading.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I'm sure you've.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Already peaked at that, haven't you. You already you already
peaked ahead, didn't you?
Speaker 3 (28:38):
By the way, did uh.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
You saw you saw our results? Our latest results? What
we did that on Monday though, didn't we?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, we'll talk about that.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
But what I'm saying is I I usually go fill
in like what I like ahead of time, and Jonas
is obviously already peked.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Ahead at what I did.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I really have it.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
I was more curious as to why Penn State plus
fourteen and a half didn't.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Get me love for tomorrow. I'm just trying to figure
that one.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Out.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
I mean that, okay, So all in all honesty, that
line looked fishy to me because the way Indiana's been playing,
the way they played last week, in particular on the road,
it should have been a little higher. I would have
had them at seventeen and a half, eighteen and a
half somewhere in that vicinity. So it actually led me
to think, all right, maybe you take I mean that,
I don't. I don't like touching any Indiana game because,
(29:31):
like the over under, they could just blow up on
a team and drop fifty on you. But they also
could play a low scoring game like Iowa, where they
had to, you know, literally kind of you know, take
a safety at the end of the game just to
kind of keep that thing, you.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Know, in their in their grips.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
So it's tough, Like they're a tough team to predict
outside of at home.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I feel pretty good about their ability to cover. Some
of those spreads are huge.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Brady, if your son made his debut, one of your
suns made their debut in South Bend for Notre Dame,
would you not get a little emotional, like, imagine seeing
that for the for the first time, Levart, your son's
gonna make his debut a Beaver Stadium tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
You're not you won't get a little bit emotional. I'd
be a mess.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I have yet to see him, like I mean, he's
running down on kickoffs, I have I have had yet
to see him go on the field and play that.
That is cool, that is true.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
What percentage of people walking the face of the earth
can say I ran down on kickoff for a Division
I program?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
The same one, the same and the same number. You know? Yeah,
I mean, yeah, I don't. I thought I would get
emotional when I saw them the first time.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I would be a sobbing little bitch. I swear to
I would.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
I would melt down. That's that's so cool, man, so cool.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
It is pretty cool. I ain't all to you. It
is pretty cool. But I don't know, Like I said,
I in moments where I feel like I'm going to
get emotional, like what's crazy is And this might sound weird,
but I saw one of the kids I mentored I
hadn't talked to him in a while, I hadn't seen
him in a while, and and well Shane Shane Simmons,
Shane Simmons, and he came Shane, Yeah, Shane Shane Uh.
(31:25):
He came to the game and when I saw him,
like I cried, Like I got I got emotional, like
not like weeped or anything, but just got emotional. You know.
I got terry Ott, I did. I got emotions because
we went through a lot, and I know he's gone
through a lot and he's accomplished and now he just passed,
(31:46):
uh past this test and got you know, certified to
be a fireman. He's a fireman in DC now. So yeah,
I mean I've had some really really great stories. I
feel like I feel like I don't know, like I
feel like sports doesn't hit me that way. I feel
like life hits me that way. Like one of my
kids got married that I mentored, right, he became a marine,
(32:07):
So he's a marine, a former marine. He's kind of
like he's at the end now where he can like
start doing other stuff, transition into doing other things. But
when I was at his wedding, I got teary ot,
you know, like, like I like seeing the people you
become because of our journey during the time that you're
involved with sports. Like I think something that my kids
(32:28):
accomplished outside of the game of that they play, whether
it's the volleyball, whether it's cheering, whether it's football. I
think those are the things that get me, like emotionally,
like you know, charged stuff. But like seeing that, it's
almost like in the moment, it's like I can't fall
apart and cry because it's like it's time to whoop
(32:50):
some ass, you know what I mean. Like it's like
it's go time. Like he's like, let's get it, Like
let's get after it. Like I see you like step
big stepper, don't be a little stepper, Be a big stepper,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I don't know the first time I see my son
in a mariachi band like.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Waterfalls stupid? What wasn't you you are so stupid?
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Wasn't Bobby Bouchet kind of crying when he would go
and like light someone up and.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
He who is that character based? And who is that
character based off?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Of? Yeah? You boys?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:30):
But wasn't he kind of crying maybe a fit of
rage with some tears rolling down You're gonna get another
man looking at.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Him saying, damn miss that guy.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah you're right now. Well water.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
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and some numbers that would support an award handed out
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the Northwestern coach, was ousted and there was this whole
(35:04):
hazing scandal that was put forth and all this stuff
that came out. Well, Pat Fitzgerald sued, and earlier this
year that case was settled and Northwestern put out a
statement that said, quote, inappropriate conduct in the football program
did occur. They went on to say evidence uncovered during
(35:27):
extensive discovery did not establish that any player reported hazing
to coach Fitzgerald or that coach Fitzgerald condoned or directed
any hazing. Well, Pat Fitzgerald made his first public appearance
or public statement.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
You're saying he was vindicated. The vindication, I just want
I just yorke sure everybody hears that.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
More, dear.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
And so he was on the College.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Game Day That white tail is up in the air,
but you look at that he was on.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
He was the College Game Day podcast and it went
a little something like this, you feel vindicated, Pat.
Speaker 8 (36:05):
I feel one hundred percent vindicated. I mean you alluded
to the statement earlier. I let that speak for itself. Unfortunately,
I'm not allowed to talk about other things a part
of that settlement, but I feel very, very vindicated. I
feel again, especially for our players and their families. You know,
the facts are the facts, and you know, I feel
vindicated for our players, our families, our staff, and you know,
(36:29):
I'm just.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
I'm happy for my guys. I got a bunch of
them out there.
Speaker 8 (36:32):
I think ten of the eleven starters right now are
going to go compete their rear end off on that defense.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
For Timmy mcgargle in LA.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
You know this weekend in the top twenty defense, I
think six or so of the starters on offense. So
those are my guys.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
I love them.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I'm proud of them, and I want to see them
have great success.
Speaker 8 (36:47):
And then you know, we'll see if I get another
group here hopefully soon.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Hell yeah, talking about get them back. Man, He's a
great show.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Were the case.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
People don't realize.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
I mean, the academic standards at Northwestern are stringent, they're high,
and it's hard to get every single kid. So you're
competing against schools that have a much bigger player pool
to choose from, and then even on.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Top of it, just you know, looking at the.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Once you're there, the rigorous academics in the schedule and
everything else. So he was I mean he played in
like multiple Big ten championships, at least one of which
that we were there for as a part of Big Noon.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, it's like as a coach, that shows you my age.
I'm going back to when he was a player.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
Yeah, I'm talking about as a coach. As a coach
that what he did as a coach there was incredible.
I just I've got the utmost respect. I'm excited to
see where he ends up because there's a lot of
big jobs and I'm not.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Gonna say I would I would.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
Okay, because it is at the top of my list
for Pat Fitzgerald making that thing a contender.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
He fits, He fits the mold of what we are like.
He's definitely a LB like like every sense of the word.
The mentality is the way he approaches things. I mean,
that's he's like the he's like the rich Man. He's
the Nike version of Matt Rule. Matt Rule is more
like the Pro Kids, pro Wings, you know, because he's
(38:19):
an overachiever and played linebacker, but just wasn't you know,
he wasn't like a starter type, whereas Pat Fitzgerald is
like the pitcher. You know, you look at what a
big ten linebacker looks like, what a college linebacker looks like.
There's a few guys that you'd have a picture of
them in. Pat Fitzgerald's one of them, one of those guys.
So and I know him personally, he is like when
(38:41):
I heard that news pop off, like I was, I
was so disappointed to hear about it and felt for him,
like deeply because to know that man is like he's
every bit of phenomenal person as as you would would
have seen him as a coach. So I'm happy for him.
The way he was responding sounds like he's getting broke
(39:03):
off some straight sheddar cheese. Not not not not not
not that government cheese. He getting that that shit shit
chit chat. Duh. I can't talk about the details because
they about to break your boy off something like straight
fon due style. So it's good for him, man, and
(39:24):
he's gonna he's gonna get the opportunity to coach against
he was.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
He was back to back defensive player of the year
when he was in college, he was really good.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
And that's and that's hard bro think about who was
like that's that's during the time like Charles Woodson and
all of them guys were Andy Katzimoyer I believe. Isn't
that Katsa Moyer's time, Like I believe he was younger.
But there were a lot of Stone Cold Sime and Rice,
Dana Howard, all them guys like it was a lot
of ball or so shouts out the Pats. Fitzgerald went up,
(39:54):
good luck to you.
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. This song kind of stinks.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
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Speaker 2 (00:57):
B anyway.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
I'm watching a movie of your people. You and your people,
bro dust down.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Great movie.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, your whole crew up in here. Man.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
That is is that the one with yes God?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yes, yes, yes yes, the the like the the reason
why she sell my high act? Yes, I mean that desperado.
You know, it's crazy. Every time we were not yet,
not yet, you kind of give me Antonio Bender's vibes,
you know, but man, the vampire.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
It though it hasn't. Wasn't he in a vampire movie?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Wasn't there?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah there's another one.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Oh yes, man, I.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Just yeah, buddy, yeah, oh yeah, that was an amazing
looking python. Man, I'll tell you what, like was that
a python or a bowl constrictor maybe it's a python?
What is the yellow?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Tang?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Okay, she's fifty nine years old. Good for her, still gorgeous.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yes, yeah, yeah, but and ducks to down that. It's
a little different. It just it's a little different, that's all.
It's a little different.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
All right. Oh, I gotta get off this real quick.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
All right, whoa jon? What is that doing?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
There's just there's something that uh, you know, you just
do a search and all of a sudden, it just
like pops right in your face and you go, okay,
what do you mean? You guys ever played that game
Battleship back in the day?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Oh yeah, you sunk my battle. She's still got she's
got to tang.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
She got a couple of torpedoes.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
She's winning.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Well, those are called battleships. Torpedoes come from the battleships,
you know.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
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the way, Var, I saw your daughter on TV today.
(03:19):
Got to say that, Yeah, she was a it was
a yeah, replay of Oregon UCLA volleyball and she was
on FS one.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
How about that?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah? How tall is she?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Uh? Five eleven?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
No way, it's gotta be taller than that.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
She's tall six foot.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, you knew what you were doing. You knew exactly
what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Man, Look here, And that's not even for fun. That's
that's like for real talk, bro.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I know that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
You gotta go for a genetic.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Uh let's tell you what. LaVar and Shopper they are
on the same page and so.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Many things you gotta go for.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Genetics can't cut it.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
If you can't cut it, you can't cut it. Man.
You know, and life doesn't. Life doesn't say, oh, you
can't cut it, don't worry, We'll hook you up here
like you fit in right here. Like life doesn't do it.
You gotta figure that out. So if you can make
it as seamless and as not easy, but you give
them the tools to be able to do it, and
then then you do what you do. But for what
(04:22):
it's worth. My dad is five ten and my mom
is five five, so, but my granddad was six four,
so I happened to get my granddad. I don't know,
you know, my brother, my older brother is five ten,
my younger brother's six foot. So it's like I don't know.
Every once in a while, you know, you hit that
(04:43):
that it is what it is. But I'm trying to
keep keep the line strong. So you know, all my
kids are are over six foot, you know what I mean,
you know, and they tough, they're warriors. You know, they
bring it to.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
You all too, huh.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I think she's going to be taller than all of us.
Actually yeah, and she's you know, we got her involved earlier.
She's doing she's doing beach volleyball now earlier, so that
she'll have all of the skills that do to one
handed throw up to us skis Yeah, the skills. Skills
that's connected to the game, the skills, you know. So yeah,
(05:21):
it's good man. Thanks, I appreciate that shout out.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Man, What up bugs?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, well that's that's route. Yeah. Is the cheerleader? Bugs?
Is the cheerleader?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
What up to all of them?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah? Well there you go, all right.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
So with that being said, what up to all of them?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
For that being said, Congratulations to Paul de Podesta, who
spent ten years with the Cleveland Browns only to realize,
you know, this place kind of sucks. So he decided
I'm gonna leave here and I'm gonna go ahead and
take over the Colorado Rockies, who also are the worst
(06:02):
team in professional sports possibly they are awful, and so
Paul Dibadesta, after all these years, was like, that'll do
it for me. He is going to take over as
the He leaves his the Browns as a chief strategy officer,
he heads back to Major League Baseball. He's going to
take over the baseball ops department for the Rockies. He
(06:23):
spent time obviously with the Dodgers. Back in the day
with the A's he was the second to Billy being
there in Oakland with the A's, the whole moneyball stuff.
He spent time with the Padres. Then he took the
task of going to the NFL, went to the Browns
and after ten years Sayonara, I'm going back to Colorado
to be a member of the Rockies and try and
(06:43):
turn around that terrible franchise. So huh, fun stuff to
take a.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Lot of cores and smoke some wheed. That's what he's
going to do. But good, he's good, he'd be nice.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
I think it's a really interesting case study to look
at the past decade and what he was able to
do or not do for that matter. They had two
winning seasons of the span he was there. You arguably
had the worst tenure or span ever, which was largely
done due to him and the others involved that wanted
(07:18):
to tank. So you went from a three and thirteen
to a one and fifteen to an zero to sixteen
stretch in three years. I mean imagine that, and they
forced Cleveland Browns fans to endure that.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Now, it did net you some great players out of it.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Unfortunately, the one that probably mattered the most in Baker Mayfield.
They let go, and so he takes him to a playoff,
they win a wildcard game, and yet they couldn't figure
out a long term deal. And so yeah, you get
to an eleven six record. You know, Joe Flacco kind
(07:56):
of comes in, saves the day a quarterback by committee
three and fourteen the next year than obviously two and
six this year. So it's just it's tough because you
look at what he was trying to implement. Jonas mentioned
Billy Bean, you know, he was a part of the
group with Moneyball, were really looking into the analytics of
(08:19):
how you can essentially spend less and you know, find
a higher floor if you will, for your team. And
I just sit there and say, why is why would
Cleveland want to mimic Moneyball? Like that's a cheap ass
way of doing it. And when has that proven to
have worked? Are we going to say the Patriots, like,
(08:42):
I don't feel like Robert Kraft, even though some people
have considered him maybe cheap in some ways.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
They had Bill Belichick, they had Tom Brady.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
I don't know that we ever viewed them as being
one of the worst spenders or the one of the
least spenders. You know, in the NFL, so like, like,
who do you compare what they were trying to do
in Cleveland to anyone else in the NFL. It felt
like it was a tenure that lasted probably too long.
(09:12):
It was out of touch with what the NFL does
or you need to do in order to win. And
then the last thing I'd just say is, if you're
looking at the Browns model, like shouldn't you be trying
to replicate Philly? Should you be trying to replicate San
Francisco some of these other franchise that can build a
stack roster. Now, again, they've done a good job in
(09:34):
some positions, they just haven't been able to hit on
some of the right stuff and it hasn't equated to
enough wins. And maybe you put that on Kevin Stefanski
or some of their prior head coaches, you know, obviously
Hugh Jackson. They went through that that really dark, you know,
period of time. Freddy Kitchens was there for a year.
I mean, it's it's it was.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
A mess, honestly.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
But I sit there and looking and I just go,
is this a sign? You know, you saw Kevin Stefanski
give up play calling, dude is to Tommy Reese Paul D.
Podesta now looks like he's jumping for a life raft
somewhere else?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Is it? Is it time there's gonna be sweeping.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Changes after the season, because it kind of feels like
it's heading in that direction the way things are going.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
It's nine players that are on the baseball diamond at
one point in time, along with the one player on
the opponent. That that makes it ten the batter, right Like,
It's not like to me how many how many players
are on a baseball team's roster?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Right? No, because you get a.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Lot of pitchers too active MLB roster is yeah, twenty five,
I believe.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I just don't think that the things that you have
to kind of negotiate and understand as it applies to
a sport where there are so many pitchers, right, how
many how many outfielders do you have? Right? Like? How
many right right field, left field, center field?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Twenty six? By the way, Ryan Bersching are twenty six?
Clarification all.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I just I just I dang, oh my gosh. I
just think that there's so ment, so many more moving
parts to being able to manage a football team versus
managing a baseball team. I really do like I like
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the intensity of what you have to deal with, Like,
I almost feel like the personality traits have to be different,
and I guess in baseball it is too, but it's
just not as many. Like the personality traits of an
offensive lineman, you got to look for those that are
specific in particular to how you're going to get a
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successful group to do it up front. On that side
of the ball. It's going to be different for the
defensive linemen. They're they're both linemen, but yet they're very,
very vastly different. The contrasts are different, and you got
to figure out what that personality looks like for the linebackers.
And then back on to the safeties and oh, by
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the way, the personality of the defensive ends are different
than the personalities of the defensive tackles and the noseguards.
The personalities of the corners are very different than the
personalities of the safeties, like the mentalities of them. Same
thing with receivers, right, receivers and corners are very relatable
because they're very selfish people. Because it's a very self
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driven position, like you're all by yourself, you're all alone.
Then the quarterback, you can't miss on the quarterback, and
more often than not, it seems to be misses than
there are wins with quarterbacks in the league. I just
think there is so many moving parts to try to
put together piece together that if you're trying the moneyball
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moneyball players like I like, I look at it like, okay,
if you're trying to look at the analytics, this says
that this is the guy to get. I feel like
you're looking at a quarterback, like if you narrow it
down to one person, I can see or one position.
I could see that. But how does that apply in
building an entire franchise. I don't you know, I don't
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see how that can work. It's just too much that
goes into it. Are you getting your coaches that way?
Are you moneyballing getting your coaching staff? Because that plays
a major part in development, And even if it's not development,
maybe they it's just more of schematics. How do they
learn the schemes, how do they integrate and implement into
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taking that into the games. There's so many moving parts
that I just don't think you can take a baseball
approach into football and it be successful. It's I just
don't see how it would.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
It's also like the moneyball narrative is kind of crap too,
Like everyone to, oh my god, they nickel and dimed
their way to the postseason. They had like three of
the top pitchers in baseball. Like that, we're already there.
Like there's a lot of that story that's just bs
that sort of you know, manipulated into a movie and
a feature film. And I remember, I still remember this
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is like early on in deep Podesta's tenure to where
everyone's like, god, what sort of effect he's he can
have on the team. You remember Brady when they traded
for brock Osweiler and they like gave up a pick
or whatever it was, they.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Did something they took on his contract or a second.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Round and I remember people think, oh, this is the
Paul Dee Podesta effect, this is the moneyball effect. They're
taking this and it's almost like they just kept waiting
and waiting, and the fact of the matter is, no,
like you need good players, and you had Baker Mayfield,
you let him walk and then and you signed Deshaun
Watson and gave away way too much draft capital and
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then it didn't work out like that. That's really those
that's the move that you look at and go, why
is the franchise at where it's at. It's that I like,
the whole Moneyball thing just felt like crap. It just
felt like a garbage narrative going into it.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
The past four years, they've probably spent more than anyone
if you actually look at like the money spent allocating
in their cap and so I don't even really know
how much of an impact Paul Dipadesta had outside of
the early years and going through that that oh to
sixteen one and fifteen, you know, those initial years where
he was a part of really a team tanking, they've
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kind of load up in draft capital and yeah, again
you found those foundational players, but you know, at some
point it just didn't work out.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
And you know they following up in their contracts.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Obviously Miles Garrett has, but not for Baker Mayfield and
not and then those are the two most critical pieces.
So look, I'm sure there's many Browns who probably don't
really care about him being there or not, to be
quite honest, well, and I don't even know his impact,
Like it would be interesting to see behind the scenes
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how big of an impact he had, and even them
evaluating whether Deshaun Watson was the right move. Well, if
that was just all Jimmy HASLM. I mean, my feeling
with all of this is, you know, maybe he's leaving
because he feels like there will be changes after the
season and he feels a little bit, like I said,
he's handcuffed because it feels like, of late, the model
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they've utilized is throwing a bunch of cash at things,
and with Watson, it didn't work out, and they should
have picked Mayfield and unfortunately that's.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
What led them to this point.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
And so if that's the case, then like he probably
didn't have any impact at least the last four or
five years, or at least, you know, half his tenure.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
The he was with Cleveland, the Rockies finished fifty games
back in the division. They won forty three in the year,
So how bad. So how obvious is it that there's
going to be turnover in Cleveland that he's like, you
know what, I'll go take over that. That's also got
the defending world champions in the same division, Like, I'll
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just go take that over because Stefanci's given up play calling,
he's already out. It's yeah, it to Brady's point, it
just feels like there's going to be some changes there
after the year, Like this is sort of a Hey,
everybody enjoyed the ride while you got it, and then
after the season, we'll see where we're at with everything,
and then they're gonna be uh, they're gonna be back
in the market for you know, maybe a new GM
(17:35):
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Speaker 1 (19:00):
The word though triumphant.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
It is time for dal the week eleven edition of.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
This I'm a Winner list winning heres all illnesses.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
It really does, I'm going to win.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
It's Quinn's wins all right.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
We're not going to talk about Week ten because we
were basically a game away from being five hundred and
it was just an awful, awful bad beat Uva Verus
cow a pick six with less than thirty seconds left
to hit the cover for Uva. Anyway, we found some
trends though, unders over unders We've hit on one last
week in the Georgia game. This week it's Kentucky hosting Florida.
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Two good defenses in the SEC, but also too got
a bad offenses. And this has been more of a
trend for Kentucky of late. You recall, took Texas into overtime,
took him to the ropes. This over under said a
forty five and a half Florida's riddle with injuries. This
always kind of feels like that Mark stoops late in
the year, gets a good win at home over someone
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they probably shouldn't beat. In this case, I believe Kentucky
is a three and a half point three point dog
somewhere in that vicinity, but I like the under better
than anything else here to start off Today's Quinns wins.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Next up, and you'll see a trend here too. A
lot of.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Dogs, all right, it's a dog pick. UCLA hosting Nebraska. Now,
Nebraska just lost Dylan Ryola for the remainder of the season.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
But Nebraska showed me something.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Matt Rules building a program there in Nebraska. The way
he's got the defense playing, they can run the rocket
a little bit. Latif will take over at quarterback more
of a mobile quarterback, the offense will look a little
bit different, which is one of the reasons why I
feel like they ended up giving up that game to
Southern cal Mostly because, I mean, Ryle is one of
more prolific passers. Latif is a little better balancing things
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out with his legs. So I think they're getting one
and a half on the road at UCLA. I'll gladly
take the point half. Not sure they necessarily need it. Jonas,
keep me honest too. With somebody spreads, I know they
tend to change in the last twelve hours from when I.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Last looked at them.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Oh yeah, I'm on it all right.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Next up here in Iowa City, a.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Big one in the Big Ten, the Hawkeyes hosting the
Oregon Ducks. Oregon kind of hitting them the teeth of
their schedule now coming to an Iowa Hawkeye team is
one of the better defenses in college football, one of
the better rushing teams in college football. Mark Gronowski, their quarterback.
He's been phenomenal. I think he's got eleven rushing touchdowns
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in a season. That's more than Baylor. That's more than
North Carolina rushing the football. It's more than South Carolina
rushing the football so they can get after.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Him and Oregon's weakness. It's been the running game.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
If you looked at their lost Indiana for example, got
dominated physically there, Northwestern, even Penn State.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I thought both those teams had a better.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Job holding the line of scrimmage versus them, even though
Oregan was able to pull it out. So I like
Iowa getting six and a half at home, crazy Environ
if you haven't been here, it's one of the better
venues in college football. But I think Iowa keeps us
one close, not even maybe pulling off the upset. All right,
Next up, we've got three more favorites for you. LSU
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headed down to Tuscaloos at Tee Town to take on Bama.
Bama's laying nine and a half at least last time
I checked. I'd normally say this line's too big. I'm
just not sure where this LSU team is. I think
it's a bad matchup for LSU. Two, They're on the road,
they can't run the football, they have a hard time
stopping the run. It just gives me the feels that
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Bama's gonna run all over him. At this point, LSU
has got a lot of players who are probably looking
on to next year's draft at this point. Next up,
West Virginia hosting Colorado. Juju lewis the highly touted freshman.
We'll get his first start on the road. Taken on Juju,
He's taken on one of the more high pressure defenses
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in college football. Zach Ally, the defensive cooridated blitz is
over fifty percent of the time, so tough sledding. West
Virginia come off a huge win versus Houston last week,
the Land six and a half. Last time I checked,
we're gonna lay the six and a half points here
with the Mountaineers. And then finally Clemson lane two and
a half at home versus Florida State. Look, I'm still
(23:17):
a believer in this Clemson team. I'm not gonna give up.
I know it's a tough loss last week versus Duke.
I think they rebound here and it tells you by
the way where Duke is compared to Florida State in
my mind. But Adam Randall has done a good job
running the football, arguably his best game last week in
that Duke loss, lay the two and a half points.
Clemson comes away with a win and that's it for
this week's Quinns wins, Quins wins.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Nae.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
It gets me every time.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I know, hey man, it's really good. Bro. All right?
Does it take like you're like a prepper guy, Like,
how how long does it take for you to prep all.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
That Stuff'll appreciate this?
Speaker 5 (24:00):
I go off vibes, so I initially and by the way,
people are listening are probably like, well, you're an idiot
because you're not even doing well this year in college,
which is true.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
So maybe fade me if you want. By the way,
how many of those lines have changed?
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Florida Kentucky the over unders forty four and a half.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, so it's moved down a point, which makes sense.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
Alabama.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Alabama's up to ten a ten point favorite, and Clemson
is down to a one and a half point favorite.
So I don't hope you know the hope there?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Huh No. I usually go through and I look, you
said one and a half.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Yeah, I'll I look at which spreads look off to
me just having watched these teams play, and I'll say, okay,
you know that team is favored by too much or
you know, not enough, and I'll get a general sense.
Then I've kind of watched out the course of the
week how the lines move it after they open, and
then obviously I'm watching more tape of it too, so
(24:56):
I'm getting kind of a different feel for maybe how
they match up, look at the injury or poor.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Uh, it all depends.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
But you know, to me, like that's the fun of
of you know, the games in college football is I've
got the ability to see so much and get a
feel for, like how I think things are gonna play
out now again, like you have a bad beat like
Uva and Cal where that thing was in the bag
five and a half points. You know, UV is up three,
there's thirty seconds left or whatever. You know, you chalk
(25:23):
it up as a loss. But in all fairness, like
that situation very rarely plays out.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
You were on the right side of that.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
That was on the right side of that is Pete
Prisco would say, so, Grandpa Prisco, he's taught us so much.
Do you know he's got I was gonna start making
him T shirts. Like he's got all these sayings, like
he'll say, what's good for me is good for me?
What you are, you are, what you are? You know
he always will.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Show for me it's good for me. It's a great one.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
I love that show up.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I love that saying I live to call me the
quarterback defender.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
We would always whenever he said I was on the
right side of that bet or whatever, he'd also go,
but you were.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
It's just he Papadakis and Pete prisco Ever like talked
on radio together.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
No, and they're like East Coast West Coast mixes.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I don't know that it'd be a good mix.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
It's like East Coast West Coast curmudgeons, though, like it's
like that, the West Coast brand of it, the East
Coast brand of it. I think it would make for
interesting And well, what's.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
What's amazing about Pete, And this is what I appreciate
is he's unfiltered. He doesn't hold back, and he's able
to say how he feels in the fewest amount of
words I've ever seen, Like his brevity is incredible. And
then and the best part about it is like something
tragic could have happened in that player's life and he
just go he stinks he can't play, should be on
(26:55):
the field, feel that for him, But he stinks.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
He's just gonna keep it real, Like that's that's the
bottom line.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
That's how Pete is. He always has been, always will be. Man,
he's awesome.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Shouts out to Pete. What Pete?
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, what up, Pete? What's he doing? What's he doing today?
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Just taking out because Pete, how much time? How much
prep does he put into his picks? Because he takes
those very seriously.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Uh, outside of watching the games, I think he doesn't
really do anything more than that.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
But yeah, I mean, I mean that's probably why he
lost every year.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
How you feel about these picks this week? Like you
were under five hundred bout one last week? That like
you feel good, it's a bounce back week.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
I had actually like four more, four more. Actually, I'll
be honest, No, I don't feel great about anything anymore.
I'm second guessing everything. At this point in my college
football picks, I was I was flip flopping through a
number of games that I just ended up taking off altogether.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I actually had four more games I was gonna pick.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Then I realized it was probably too much for her
for our shows, like I'll be talking for way too long,
So I took off four of those. I've might have
flip flopped on one of these picks too. So no,
it's a disastrous season for me in college football betting.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah, but you know what, look at all those bowl
games you're gonna have, Like, there's plenty of time.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Here to No, I know, that's why.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
That's why I said, like the last week of the
regular season in college football, I may just go heavy
on everything.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
You know, we want to go money line, like take
the money line approach if you want to get extra
credit points on that.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Oh, you're gonna hate our picks against the spread them
this week.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Yeah, I'm already dreading.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
I'm sure you've.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Already peaked at that, haven't you. You already you already
peaked ahead, didn't you?
Speaker 3 (28:38):
By the way, did uh.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
You saw you saw our results? Our latest results? What
we did that on Monday though, didn't we?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, we'll talk about that.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
But what I'm saying is I I usually go fill
in like what I like ahead of time, and Jonas
is obviously already peked.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Ahead at what I did.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I really have it.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
I was more curious as to why Penn State plus
fourteen and a half didn't.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Get me love for tomorrow. I'm just trying to figure
that one.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Out.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
I mean that, okay, So all in all honesty, that
line looked fishy to me because the way Indiana's been playing,
the way they played last week, in particular on the road,
it should have been a little higher. I would have
had them at seventeen and a half, eighteen and a
half somewhere in that vicinity. So it actually led me
to think, all right, maybe you take I mean that,
I don't. I don't like touching any Indiana game because,
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like the over under, they could just blow up on
a team and drop fifty on you. But they also
could play a low scoring game like Iowa, where they
had to, you know, literally kind of you know, take
a safety at the end of the game just to
kind of keep that thing, you.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Know, in their in their grips.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
So it's tough, Like they're a tough team to predict
outside of at home.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I feel pretty good about their ability to cover. Some
of those spreads are huge.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Brady, if your son made his debut, one of your
suns made their debut in South Bend for Notre Dame,
would you not get a little emotional, like, imagine seeing
that for the for the first time, Levart, your son's
gonna make his debut a Beaver Stadium tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
You're not you won't get a little bit emotional. I'd
be a mess.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
I have yet to see him, like I mean, he's
running down on kickoffs, I have I have had yet
to see him go on the field and play that.
That is cool, that is true.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
What percentage of people walking the face of the earth
can say I ran down on kickoff for a Division
I program?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
The same one, the same and the same number. You know? Yeah,
I mean, yeah, I don't. I thought I would get
emotional when I saw them the first time.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I would be a sobbing little bitch. I swear to
I would.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
I would melt down. That's that's so cool, man, so cool.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
It is pretty cool. I ain't all to you. It
is pretty cool. But I don't know, Like I said,
I in moments where I feel like I'm going to
get emotional, like what's crazy is And this might sound weird,
but I saw one of the kids I mentored I
hadn't talked to him in a while, I hadn't seen
him in a while, and and well Shane Shane Simmons,
Shane Simmons, and he came Shane, Yeah, Shane Shane Uh.
(31:25):
He came to the game and when I saw him,
like I cried, Like I got I got emotional, like
not like weeped or anything, but just got emotional. You know.
I got terry Ott, I did. I got emotions because
we went through a lot, and I know he's gone
through a lot and he's accomplished and now he just passed,
(31:46):
uh past this test and got you know, certified to
be a fireman. He's a fireman in DC now. So yeah,
I mean I've had some really really great stories. I
feel like I feel like I don't know, like I
feel like sports doesn't hit me that way. I feel
like life hits me that way. Like one of my
kids got married that I mentored, right, he became a marine,
(32:07):
So he's a marine, a former marine. He's kind of
like he's at the end now where he can like
start doing other stuff, transition into doing other things. But
when I was at his wedding, I got teary ot,
you know, like, like I like seeing the people you
become because of our journey during the time that you're
involved with sports. Like I think something that my kids
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accomplished outside of the game of that they play, whether
it's the volleyball, whether it's cheering, whether it's football. I
think those are the things that get me, like emotionally,
like you know, charged stuff. But like seeing that, it's
almost like in the moment, it's like I can't fall
apart and cry because it's like it's time to whoop
(32:50):
some ass, you know what I mean. Like it's like
it's go time. Like he's like, let's get it, Like
let's get after it. Like I see you like step
big stepper, don't be a little stepper, Be a big stepper,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I don't know the first time I see my son
in a mariachi band like.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Waterfalls stupid? What wasn't you you are so stupid?
Speaker 5 (33:18):
Wasn't Bobby Bouchet kind of crying when he would go
and like light someone up and.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
He who is that character based? And who is that
character based off?
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Of? Yeah? You boys?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:30):
But wasn't he kind of crying maybe a fit of
rage with some tears rolling down You're gonna get another
man looking at.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Him saying, damn miss that guy.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah you're right now. Well water.
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pros get more done? You guys, remember when At Fitzgerald,
the Northwestern coach, was ousted and there was this whole
(35:04):
hazing scandal that was put forth and all this stuff
that came out. Well, Pat Fitzgerald sued, and earlier this
year that case was settled and Northwestern put out a
statement that said, quote, inappropriate conduct in the football program
did occur. They went on to say evidence uncovered during
(35:27):
extensive discovery did not establish that any player reported hazing
to coach Fitzgerald or that coach Fitzgerald condoned or directed
any hazing. Well, Pat Fitzgerald made his first public appearance
or public statement.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
You're saying he was vindicated. The vindication, I just want
I just yorke sure everybody hears that.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
More, dear.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
And so he was on the College.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Game Day That white tail is up in the air,
but you look at that he was on.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
He was the College Game Day podcast and it went
a little something like this, you feel vindicated, Pat.
Speaker 8 (36:05):
I feel one hundred percent vindicated. I mean you alluded
to the statement earlier. I let that speak for itself. Unfortunately,
I'm not allowed to talk about other things a part
of that settlement, but I feel very, very vindicated. I
feel again, especially for our players and their families. You know,
the facts are the facts, and you know, I feel
vindicated for our players, our families, our staff, and you know,
(36:29):
I'm just.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
I'm happy for my guys. I got a bunch of
them out there.
Speaker 8 (36:32):
I think ten of the eleven starters right now are
going to go compete their rear end off on that defense.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
For Timmy mcgargle in LA.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
You know this weekend in the top twenty defense, I
think six or so of the starters on offense. So
those are my guys.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
I love them.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
I'm proud of them, and I want to see them
have great success.
Speaker 8 (36:47):
And then you know, we'll see if I get another
group here hopefully soon.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Hell yeah, talking about get them back. Man, He's a
great show.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Were the case.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
People don't realize.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
I mean, the academic standards at Northwestern are stringent, they're high,
and it's hard to get every single kid. So you're
competing against schools that have a much bigger player pool
to choose from, and then even on.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Top of it, just you know, looking at the.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
Once you're there, the rigorous academics in the schedule and
everything else. So he was I mean he played in
like multiple Big ten championships, at least one of which
that we were there for as a part of Big Noon.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yeah, it's like as a coach, that shows you my age.
I'm going back to when he was a player.
Speaker 5 (37:35):
Yeah, I'm talking about as a coach. As a coach
that what he did as a coach there was incredible.
I just I've got the utmost respect. I'm excited to
see where he ends up because there's a lot of
big jobs and I'm not.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Gonna say I would I would.
Speaker 5 (37:51):
Okay, because it is at the top of my list
for Pat Fitzgerald making that thing a contender.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
He fits, He fits the mold of what we are like.
He's definitely a LB like like every sense of the word.
The mentality is the way he approaches things. I mean,
that's he's like the he's like the rich Man. He's
the Nike version of Matt Rule. Matt Rule is more
like the Pro Kids, pro Wings, you know, because he's
(38:19):
an overachiever and played linebacker, but just wasn't you know,
he wasn't like a starter type, whereas Pat Fitzgerald is
like the pitcher. You know, you look at what a
big ten linebacker looks like, what a college linebacker looks like.
There's a few guys that you'd have a picture of
them in. Pat Fitzgerald's one of them, one of those guys.
So and I know him personally, he is like when
(38:41):
I heard that news pop off, like I was, I
was so disappointed to hear about it and felt for him,
like deeply because to know that man is like he's
every bit of phenomenal person as as you would would
have seen him as a coach. So I'm happy for him.
The way he was responding sounds like he's getting broke
(39:03):
off some straight sheddar cheese. Not not not not not
not that government cheese. He getting that that shit shit
chit chat. Duh. I can't talk about the details because
they about to break your boy off something like straight
fon due style. So it's good for him, man, and
(39:24):
he's gonna he's gonna get the opportunity to coach against
he was.
Speaker 4 (39:27):
He was back to back defensive player of the year
when he was in college, he was really good.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
And that's and that's hard bro think about who was
like that's that's during the time like Charles Woodson and
all of them guys were Andy Katzimoyer I believe. Isn't
that Katsa Moyer's time, Like I believe he was younger.
But there were a lot of Stone Cold Sime and Rice,
Dana Howard, all them guys like it was a lot
of ball or so shouts out the Pats. Fitzgerald went up,
(39:54):
good luck to you.
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