June 21, 2023 • 37 mins
Deion Sanders explains why he would never coach in the NFL and LaVar explains the difference in coaching pros vs amateurs. Saquon Barkley’s contract negotiations continue as people debate his contribution to the Giants win-loss record. Plus, the ultimate compliment to LaVar and much more on “The Good, The Bad & The Ugly.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
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one Withzy.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
It's that wy huh that whizzy.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
One wizzy avenue bump that It's fun now you I
lost a humpcap two ten. I was looking back like,
what's that? Straight from Paris Perry Ellison, Baby Carrits. Oh whoops,
Cherry Red, Uh yeah, uh, Cherryra, Yes, Kurt, come on Cherry.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Ray Cafe to ten all day, Cherry Rast.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Say it with your chest.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
LeVar a hold out a seconds. I got a question.
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So Cafe to ten, Yes, you go there for lunch.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
But when I get it in, I go to champs.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Okay, So cafe.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Stop to my man DJ rictor Richter up, Richter Scale yay,
shuts up to my dog.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
So two ten is the matinee spot?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Two ten is just like that's like that's nostalgia. That's nostalgia.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Okay, now what is the So when you're at Cafe
two ten and State College, Yeah, and you're gonna do
LeVar Islands?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Are you going to make the mistake that you made
when we were in Arizona for the Super Bowl together
where it was time to go and you were coerced
into having another long island, which completely.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Said you imagine these are real long islands though, like
you know how you go places and you're wondering and
thinking is it real? Yes, not at to ten, all right,
like not at two ten, Like it is a perfected
drink and you know you know what you're getting when
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you get it there. So I always get my hotel.
I stay. Shouts out to my people at Hyatt as well.
I stay at the Hyatt. They was trying to get
me on air so bad. They didn't want me to
come to the football building. They want me to stay
there and do the show. You know, I'm walking distance
from Champs, I'm walking distance from two ten. What else?
(03:12):
What else? I mean, there's something else I'm missing. There's
there's something else that I'm missing. What am I missing? Oh?
You know? The breakfast potatoes here in State College are
the bomb? All right?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
What makes them better than anywhere else?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
They're the bomb? I don't know, man, They're just the
way they're.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Supposed to taste, a little crispy.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Er.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
They are a little crispy, but they had this like
little I don't know, it's just the taste of them
are the way a breakfast potato should taste.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
And by the way, it wasn't two ten the place
that got you into Long Islands to begin with.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
That's that's correct.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah, so so so when you have that first sip,
it really does take you back.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Oh. Yes, that's the point. That's why do you realize
that's why I started drinking Long Islands again. That was
the whole point, because I was really for a long time,
I was tequila and grapefruit, and then I started like
when I started like kind of you know, thinking about
when I was somebody and it mattered life and people
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respected me and revered me and worse up the ground
that I walked on. I was in state college, and
when I began having adult beverages, well I was introduced
to Long Islands. And I'll never forget keijohn a kart,
which this is super cool. I'm gonna probably see Key John.
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I know OJ McDuffie will be here. Some people may
not remember who Oj McDuffie is, but OJ McDuffie is
one of the dopest football players to ever play at
Penn State. Ended up going to Miami, had an unfortunately injury.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Well yeah, but he was a very good player with
the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Super super dope. And so there the ones that introduced me,
and they got me faded, Like I mean, fade them dudes,
go hard them. They're like twin brothers go hard in
the paint. Like it's like having Shaq and Yao mean
in the paint at the same time on the same team,
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Like they go hard in the paint. And so that
that that was how I got introduced to it. I'll
never forget it. That was also how I got introduced,
I believe to Grenadine and Coronas, which I thought was weird,
but after trying it, I thought it was very very cool.
I had it like maybe a three year run with
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Coronas and Grenadine. Yeah. Yeah, I learned a lot of
like interesting things here, you know, And I just really
been in love with Penn State man like lately. So
I've just been on Long Islands for like I don't know,
like for for a few years now. I just I've
just been back on it thing.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
That's what it's like. We got to live vicariously through
you to be to be a Hall of Famer. That's
how that works.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I Mean, they're about to go outside and practice. I
almost for two seconds almost said I thought they were
going to be practicing after the show. Clearly I'm still
on West Coast time, because they're like, yeah, they're practicing
at seven I was like, perfect, and then you realize
hour two. Yeah, I realized it's only hour two here though.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Well, I mean, you know what else is probably practicing
later today? Yes, definitely. D's on Sanders is what it is.
Deon Sanders Prime and the Colorado Buffalo's are getting ready
for an exciting season featured back to back weeks to
start off the year on Big Noon Kickoff. But the
conversation for Deon Sanders on Sports Illustrated turned to the
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potential of coaching a team he played for in the NFL,
the Dallas Cowboys. So he spoke with Brie and Mooranthus
of Sports Illustrated about that possibility.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And let's take a listen to Dion.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
And make the comparisons between college and the NFL and
the potential of going back and reuniting with Jerry Jones
as a head coach.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I'm not an assistant coach. That's not me. I'm ahead.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
I'm not because I know who I am, I know
what I am, and I don't settle for mediocre to whatsoever.
I don't have any desire ambition to coach in the NFL.
I have a problem with men getting to check and
not doing the jobs. I have a problem with that,
Like I would be too tough as a coach in
the NFL. I'm old school. You know you're gonna do it.
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You're gonna do it this way. We're gonna work out,
but we're gonna be a team. Only thing's gonna be
individual about you is the way you play. So I'm
a little different. I'm kind a little different, but I
love it. I love Jerry Jones. I tremendously love that
whole family, and uh, you know, their step away oftentimes,
So there you go.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Once doesn't like I didn't like being a coach in
the NFL because you know, he's a little bit too
old school. Didn't feel like they could they could handle
some of that criticism that he would dish out there.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
The sensitive thugs need hugs, as my man Fred Smoot has.
I mean, there's a lot of personalities that you have
to deal with, and from what I can gather, it's
way more intense now dealing with you know, pro athletes.
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I mean, I don't know, I really I have dealt
with a lot of young people I've mentored. I told
you I officially retired. I'm retired from it, and I'm retired,
like in terms of bringing kids into my home and
stuff like that, Like that's I'm done. But I've done
it for so long, and I watched the evolution of
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how these kids are. Man, They're like they've they've they've
turned into zombies. They're like, they're like emotionally emotionally unstable zombies.
That's what they are these days. And they're driven by
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AI artificial intelligence. That's a that's this generation of pros,
that's this generation of athletes. It's so weird. If you
could see guys you can know you can know guys
that come from good homes that are AI zombies because
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their parents were good parents, probably two family, two parent home,
and allowed allowed them to be raised by YouTube, social media,
and mobile devices. They're they were raised and influenced by them.
You can tell the cat that come from single parent
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homes and are literally with no father figure or mother figure,
whichever one it may be, and they're influenced by the
same exact things, Like they're all influenced by the same
exact things, the same exact music and videos and stuff.
They're influenced by the same exact things but have different
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different upbringings. And you can tell what type of zombie
they are, this new generation, they're zombies. And so if
you're going to coach a zombie that's getting a paycheck
and oftentimes more than you, Some of these some of
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these players are making more than you as a coach.
So these zombies, these AI controlled zombies are looking at
you like what are you talking about? What are you
talking to me about? And why like why are you
talking to me? Like get out of my face? It does,
And that's what I've seen in terms of the evolution.
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Like it's just it's like here and they'd be looking
at you like they're listening, but they're not. They're not,
I'm telling you. And it's at the high school level.
He's saying pros And I would say, the only reason
why you say that at pros is because that's the
level where they're actually really everyone's getting paid. You're a professional.
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But it's at the high school level. Hell, it's at
the pee wee level. I'm playing this position. No you're not, Yes,
I am. Like it's like so many agendas and so
much disconnect from reality with how these youngsters are these days.
It's kind of it's I'll say it's a tad bit disturbing.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
When he says, when he makes the comment and he
compares the two, obviously, you know, I don't want to
say two different sports, same sport, but a different level.
Coaching in the NFL and coaching in college. It does
feel like two different worlds. And what I find interesting
about it is if a coach either doesn't make the
jump to the NFL but as a successful college coach,
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or he makes the jump from college to the NFL,
but maybe he isn't as successful as he is in college,
they're almost diminished, like, yeah, but you didn't do it
at the NFL. Yeah, but you couldn't get done there.
It's almost like a knock on their resume. When Dion
Sanders is telling you, look, I played at the highest
level in the NFL, I'm coaching Division I college football.
I've had success coaching college football. I'm telling you I'm
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not interested in it because it's another world and just
the ability.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, and so that's why it's.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
You can you can threaten guys in college?
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Yeah, it feels like and it almost feels like there's there.
You're sort of knocked if you can't do it the
NFL when in the NFL. Maybe you just don't have
the ability to because maybe it's more difficult to tell
a guy who's making fifteen million dollars a year, no,
you're going to be here at this time. We're practicing
this hard.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Eah. No, I'm not like I'm just I'm just.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Not doing it like it's a it's a whole different job,
it feels like. And and I think his approach is, man,
I want to be able to actually coach players, not
manage personalities, and he feels like he's got to do
that at the NFL level more so than college.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
It's kind of I think you definitely have more control
in college than you do and and the pros and
really in any other any other level, because if you're
talking high school, you could you could threaten somebody in
high school. They'll go tell their mother or their father
you're going to get fired, like you're out of there,
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or they'll quit like I'm not going to make it anyway.
Or you can look at college and you'd be like
I'm almost there, Like I am one level away from
making it to the pros. And whether you're a backup
or you're a starter, you know that everything at this
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point truly matters, like the way the coaches talk about you, everything,
your film, everything matters. When you get to that point
of where you're actually able to look at the pros
as being a valuable possibility, and so you're willing to
handle the verbal abuse that comes your way because you
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don't have anything except the game and what that game
can provide for you. You're not gonna let no professor talk
to you that way. You're not gonna let anybody else
outside of a coach talk to you the way that
a coach is going to talk to you at times
because of what it is that's at stake for you,
which is weird, right because you would think like, well,
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if a coach can talk to you crazy, then a
professor should be able to talk to you crazy. I
wish professor would talk to me crazy. I wish I
wish one, I wish one would like who the audacity
of you? Educator of of of a higher level? Raising
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your voice at me, mother, fing me please you, I
don't talk to me that way, but let a coach
do it. And you be sitting there like.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Sir, yes, sir, I'll be, I'll be tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I'll be outside. Yeah, I'll get it right this time.
Please don't mother f me like I don't even say that,
you just take it. So I just think it's the
level of control and Dion, Dion would probably people don't
realize how detailed. If you didn't know him, you wouldn't
know how detailed Dion is. Dion is almost I mean,
(15:54):
you know, I ain't I'm not one to clinically diagnose anybody,
but Dion is almost like almost like like a rain
Man type bro. He's like really really like OCD with
what he does, like every single detail.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I mean, a lot of successful people are like like
every every ounce of it matters, like every set Like
a lot of people would dismiss, well, why does it
matter if I, you know, get up at this time
and make my bed first. And for some people it's
like that's how it gets him going, Like that's that's
the first step in a long process of a successful day.
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And it's always like you know the old adage, you know,
run the day, don't let the day run you. And
he strikes me as one of those guys who's gonna
be in control, and he's gonna have full control of
whatever he's got his hands on. And whatever he's operating,
and he probably feels like I don't have the ability
to have full control in the NFL. That's why we
talked about it last week, Nick Saban. Some people will
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look at Nick Saban's run in the NFL and say, oh, yeah,
he wasn't successful, so they almost diminish his historical impact
on the game.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
No, hell no, he wasn't bad.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
But he recognized, Okay, I'm better served going back and
coaching at Alabama than staying here with the Dolphins and
trying to figure out the quarterback position, which was the issue.
And guess what, he was right. He's become the greatest
head coach in the history college football. But I think
people look at it and say, yeah, but he couldn't
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do it at that at that level in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
So therefore, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I just show me your accolades to the people that said, oh,
he couldn't do it, show me your accolades, accolades, please, Yeah,
what are your accomplishments? Oh he couldn't do it at
at the pro level? Show me what what was your
how'd you do at the pro level? What'd you do?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
What'd you do? Agreed?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
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So LaVar Arrington, you are in state call yes, somebody
else who was a star at Penn State in state college,
Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
That is very true, like a tremendously large star.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, but a star.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Unfortunately, there's a there's a former Giants running back who, uh,
you know, I guess maybe doesn't see the true value
in Saquon Barkley and the contract he's asking for from
the New York Giants. And that somebody would be Tiki Barber,
who had this to say Antiqui and Tyranny about the
possibility of giving Saquon Barkley a long term deal or
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maybe even going your separate ways.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
I know that Giant fans want Saquon Barkley on this team,
no doubt about it. They feel like they need Saquon
Barkley on this team. But the fact is, if he's
not on this team, I honestly don't know if they'd
be worse off. I think they would be just because
of a lock. But I can't say for fact this
team will not win ten games games at Saquon bar
I can't say that.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Now. I could say that, yes, I think a lot
of would say that.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Jeff Kerr of cbssports dot com pointed this out because
here on this show we get full credit when people
do the deep dive on stats, we get full credit here.
We're not a bunch of thieves on this show. Jeff
Cerr of cbssports dot com pointed this out. The Giants
were eight and two when Saquon Barkley rushed for seventy
plus yards last season, seven and two when he had
one hundred plus scrimmage yards, and zero to three when
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Barkley rushed for less.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Than fifty yards last season.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
So that would be an indicator that maybe they do
need Saquon Barkley and they would be a better team
and better off.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Of Saquon Barkley as they're running back again this year.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, I mean, I would to agree with the idea
that having Saquon Barkley is imperative to Daniel Jones and
day Ball, Big truck Nuts Stayball to be able to
have the success that they need to have. If you're
going to build Paul what you did last year, one
thing you do not do is get rid of one
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of the key cogs that was a part of that success. Yeah,
and I don't think anyone can argue that. You cannot
argue the fact that Saquon Barkley was the catalyst to
the success of the New York Giants offense, ken are you?
Speaker 4 (21:17):
And also, I would say as much as Daniel Jones
had a bounce back year last year, I don't know
that anybody looks at the Giants and says, he's so good,
we'll just figure it out at running back. I just
I don't know that that's the case. I don't think
it's a you know, it's like the Bills have been
trying to figure out a solution at running back, but
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it's not the end all be all because they've got
Josh Allen. Same with Kansas City. They you know, they
could throw in whoever, Isaiah Pacheco, wherever you want at
running back. Lashan McCoy was there for a short time
in Kansas City, but because they've got Mahomes, they're going
to be okay. Man With the Giants, Saquon Barkley is
like a big part of what they do on offense.
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And I don't I think it's coincidental that Saquon Barkley
finally has a bounce back a year and plays well
and the Giants are in the playoffs last year.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I mean it's a direct correlation. Man, his numbers are
almost identical to his rookie season. It's almost identical. Outside
of receptions. He had fifty seven this past year and
ninety one his rookie year, But he ran for thirteen
hundred and twelve yard thirteen hundred and twelve this year.
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In his rookie season, he ran for thirteen one hundred
and seven yards. Four point four yard average per carry
this year, five yard average per carry in his rookie season.
Ten TD year this past year, eleven. His rookie year,
he won Rookie of the Year. He was up for
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he was in consideration for Player of the Year for MVP.
At one point during the course of the season. He
was probably the hottest thing going as an offensive player
at one point during the course of this season. You
don't just you don't just let that go. You don't
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you don't just casually address a player that has that
type of impact. He had to me, he's more impactful
when he's healthy for the New York Giants than even
Dalvin Cook was for Minnesota. If you ask me, and
I'm telling you that is a tremendous departure for Minnesota.
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People may not realize how big it is just yet,
but they're going to find out. They're going to find out.
And I'm telling you right now, the running backs position
is being devalued because there are other guys that can
get in there and do things that are comparable or
serviceable for the team. But when you have a guy
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that is the relief, the catalysts of your offense, like
a Marshall Folk or an Edger and James, you know,
those type of running backs that actually dictate, you know,
the success of your team of Fred Taylor. When you
have those type of running backs, you got to take
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care of them while they still they got Like Sequon
probably has a good two three more years of playing
at a very very high level. That's barring any type
of crazy injuries. Saquon can really really help your team
out over the next three years, maybe even four.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
And I could understand the argument for the Giants and well,
he has an issue staying healthy.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Okay, Well he did. He did stay healthy last year.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
I mean he might have gotten banged up a little bit,
and I think you would come to ta and he
doesn't think he had.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Two seasons where he was really really banged up right,
twenty twenty, I think and.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
One yeah, And so last year it was a return
to form, a return to how effective he was his
first year in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
And his second year he put up a G two.
And he's put up three seasons in five years. He's
put up three seasons of thousand yard thousand yard years.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
I get the vibe when Saquon Barkley was talking a
couple of weeks ago at his camp, I get the
vibe that he's not being unreasonable.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
This isn't like a Zeke Elliott.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
I'm going to can Kun and I'm going to hang
out with Eric Dickerson at Mango Banngo or whatever it's called.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I thought it was Marshall Faulk, it could be.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Was it Mango Deck? Is that what it's called? Is
that the place?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Well, that's the place I was hanging out when I
went there. By we went to Mango Deck.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
There's a place in Ensinnata, Mexico called Mango Mango and
I got sawed off there. Oh my god, bucket of
beers for like four cents and just got.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Since ripped in. Did they just give you Mexican water.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
No, I think it was soul like uh, like you know,
cheap Mexican beer soul when you go out there. For
some reason, I was with my buddy. We got so good. Yeah,
it was great.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Uh for some reason we were sitting there and we
got so hammered. We just started buying everything the vendors
brought around. He he bought a sling shot. I have
no idea why we bought beer holsters never used.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Were y'all shooting them? Well? Were y'all using the sling shot?
I have no idea I had a sling shot. I
had a real sling shot.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Before made well like put together well like.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I mean, somebody bought it for me. Like you know,
I had a whole lot of government friends. And one
of my one of my guys, he probably he's I
don't know if it was Marcus who did that, or
or my other guy. Uh, it wasn't Marcus. It was
I had another was it Tim? Tim was like an
ex military dudes. I'm pretty certain because he brought me
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a whole bunch of uh done guns too, Like I
had like twenty guns. He bought me all kinds of
stuff that that I could use for personal protection. And
I think he brought me a sling shot. And let
me tell you something. If you know how to use
a sling shot, brouh, that's like one of the funnest
things to do. Oh yes, if you know how to.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Use a sling shit, it's also difficult as hell to
do because you got to make sure that the strap
is wrapped around perfectly, you get to have steady on
your front hand, and then you've got to release it
at just the right time or else you won't be accurate.
If you're accurate with a slingshot, there's nothing you can't do.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
So let me just tell you. You're talking about the
one that you swing. I'm talking about the one that's
connected to a stick. Yes, which one are you talking
I'm talking about connected to the stick. Yeah. I pull
that bad boy back and I let that thing ripe.
I mean, I was deadly accurate.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
So you're you're not worried about accuracy as much as
you are just the amount of velocity you got on it.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Oh no, I was accurate. Okay, I don't want to
tell you what I was doing with my sling shot,
but because you know, Peter might come come calling and
it's been a really long time. It was when I
lived in Maryland and I lived on forty eight acres
of property.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Well, okay, hey, what do you what'd you take care
of out there?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Was it peacock?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I mean no, there's no peacocks in Maryland. Dove.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
No, a couple of pigeons, I.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Mean maybe a bird, Okay, maybe maybe a squirrel.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Well, let me tell you something. Squirrels I don't feel
the least but bad. They're rats with bigger.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Tails, the furry furry tales, with furry tales.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
I can't stay. Yeah, I can't stand squirrels. They're they're
just they're terrible. And then they look at you like
you're intruding on their territory. It's like, dude, you don't
even pay rent here, and they're they're like leaving little
like uh like nuts.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Around, like bearing it in the yard.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
You see the you think he got a golfer in
the You got to put a hose in it. You
realize there's no goal for there, just bearing stuff there.
And then it's you know, some of it's fake. They
just want to They're looking at you and making you
look like an ass to yourself in front of your family,
because they're bearing stuff around the yard that's not actually there.
I can't stand squirrels, so I hope you sling them up.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I caught a couple of squirrels slink trees from from
my deck. I had a sniper rifle too, so I
had a sniper, right. I had a sniper rifle, a
P ninety. You ever know you know what a P
ninety is?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, what's nine?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Oh? Bro? Like I had. I have an arsenal of
weapons that I don't have anymore. But when I lived
on my property, I had like and you know, me
and my we go shooting, and we were legal to
shoot because I was outside like where I was at,
I was zoned to be able. I could hunt my
property like, so I could shoot like I wouldn't get
(29:53):
I get no trouble if I took a dare down,
you know. So whatever, if you came on property, you
were fair, gay and and so anyways, I needless to say,
if I got bored at times, I'd go out on
my back deck and I'd like be a sniper like,
(30:16):
and I would start sniping stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
That was your own mango deck.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
That was my mango deck.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
That was the bango deck.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah, it was it was. It was like it was
it was like, those were some pretty cool times. It's
pretty fun times, man, I'll just pretty fun times.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
I'll say this to close up the Saquon Barkley conversation because.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
We got way off. I'll tell you what though. The
worst assassination before you finish up with with with sa
Quon was it was this poor possum. It was a possum.
And I feel like possums are big rats too. They're
just bigger version.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Rats, although they're marsupials, uh, which is weird because you
look at a possum and you go there.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Kind of look like a rat.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Like if somebody if you saw a possum and a
kulla next to each other, it would be like, hey,
who's your hot friend over there?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Oh it's my cousin. Yeah, you're not related to that, buddy.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I don't feel like. I don't feel like they're they
should be related, and they are, right, I feel like
they should be more related to rats. Yeah, they look
like big ass rats. Agreed, and I destroyed.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Them so well. The good news is for Saquon Barkley.
According to Ian Rappaport, they are talking again you're talking.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
They should be talking, because that's not that's not something
that should Like the Marra family and the Tish family,
they're they're they're real pros man, they're they're good people.
It's a great organization, well ran organization. They'll they'll figure
it out.
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Speaker 3 (34:07):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Ugly, all right, lead to laugh. Who's got what this week?
Speaker 9 (34:19):
Well, as we do each and every week, we start
with the good. And you know it's a good week
because it's me giving you the good.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, and you guys, I got some good for you.
Speaker 9 (34:26):
Friend of the show and member of up on Game
Plexico Burst was on The Carton Show and was asked
a very important question and gave a very good answer.
Take a listen, You're stranded and Alaska it's life for death.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
You pick up the phone, you can only call a
former player that you know who you calling, that you
know for sure.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
Is getting on a plane to come.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Help you out. Oh LeVar Arrington, LeVar Arrington. Okay, there
you go.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
How about right, Matt?
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Oh he's right.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
I mean, how about Plexio Burrus lying on national TV
like that?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
It was unbelievable that he would lie?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Right? How about that? That's called accountability, my guy?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
First of all, First of all, I'm hearing reports that
the only way you would show up to pick him
up is it was on first class. If it wasn't
first class, you ain't making it.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
That's what I heard.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Hey, look here, man, however we get in there, I'm
picking the home at the homie needs me. I'm in
the wind. You hear what I'm telling you? When you
got that rapport for one another and one of y'all
hit me up and was like, var like I need you, man,
like I'm gonna be there? Who will be there?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Who was the who is the cu? It was David
Tellison back in the days. All a friend will help
you kill somebody, A best friend to.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Help you bury the body? About it?
Speaker 1 (35:48):
About it.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
What about me? Would you would you go to a
student you just hear me say it, Yeah, but it
was good.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
If one of y'all hit me up, yeah, I'm there.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
But I think because it's a former player, you know,
it feels like you prefer them over a guy like
me or Lee to laugh, feels like we would be secondary.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I mean I spend as much time with you guys
as I did with my teammates, you know what I mean.
We spend it so where you know, my close teammates
become my family. You know, you guys become my family.
I talk to you guys quite a bit. I mean,
we interact quite a bit, and it's every day real
up there.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
You know, Lee, who's got the bad this week? Well,
Varr was part of the good. But Var what was
bad this week?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Man? I mean I hate I'm struggling with with going
with the one that I had. You saw my former
teammate is getting divorced, man, Like, that's bad. I hate
when I see guys are getting divorced. I think, after
like a ten year marriage, who's getting divorced? Samuels is
getting divorced, So that's bad, man. I wish him and
(36:53):
his family well, I hope everything works out for.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Them and Jonas. What was ugly this week? All right?
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Listen Mariah Cherry or whatever her name is, Mariah, that
adult film star, Mariah Mills, General Mills, Patty Mills, whatever
her name is. Hey, you gotta get over it, babe.
It's over, Zion, he ain't coming back. And you can
threaten all you want until you're blue in the face.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
It's over.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
He's ready to get that hammer dropped on her.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Hammers hammer.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
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It's that wy huh that whizzy.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
One wizzy avenue bump that It's fun now you I
lost a humpcap two ten. I was looking back like,
what's that? Straight from Paris Perry Ellison, Baby Carrits. Oh whoops,
Cherry Red, Uh yeah, uh, Cherryra, Yes, Kurt, come on Cherry.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Ray Cafe to ten all day, Cherry Rast.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Say it with your chest.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
LeVar a hold out a seconds. I got a question.
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So Cafe to ten, Yes, you go there for lunch.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
But when I get it in, I go to champs.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Okay, So cafe.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Stop to my man DJ rictor Richter up, Richter Scale yay,
shuts up to my dog.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
So two ten is the matinee spot?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Two ten is just like that's like that's nostalgia. That's nostalgia.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Okay, now what is the So when you're at Cafe
two ten and State College, Yeah, and you're gonna do
LeVar Islands?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Are you going to make the mistake that you made
when we were in Arizona for the Super Bowl together
where it was time to go and you were coerced
into having another long island, which completely.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Said you imagine these are real long islands though, like
you know how you go places and you're wondering and
thinking is it real? Yes, not at to ten, all right,
like not at two ten, Like it is a perfected
drink and you know you know what you're getting when
(02:48):
you get it there. So I always get my hotel.
I stay. Shouts out to my people at Hyatt as well.
I stay at the Hyatt. They was trying to get
me on air so bad. They didn't want me to
come to the football building. They want me to stay
there and do the show. You know, I'm walking distance
from Champs, I'm walking distance from two ten. What else?
(03:12):
What else? I mean, there's something else I'm missing. There's
there's something else that I'm missing. What am I missing? Oh?
You know? The breakfast potatoes here in State College are
the bomb? All right?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
What makes them better than anywhere else?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
They're the bomb? I don't know, man, They're just the
way they're.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Supposed to taste, a little crispy.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Er.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
They are a little crispy, but they had this like
little I don't know, it's just the taste of them
are the way a breakfast potato should taste.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
And by the way, it wasn't two ten the place
that got you into Long Islands to begin with.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
That's that's correct.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah, so so so when you have that first sip,
it really does take you back.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Oh. Yes, that's the point. That's why do you realize
that's why I started drinking Long Islands again. That was
the whole point, because I was really for a long time,
I was tequila and grapefruit, and then I started like
when I started like kind of you know, thinking about
when I was somebody and it mattered life and people
(04:18):
respected me and revered me and worse up the ground
that I walked on. I was in state college, and
when I began having adult beverages, well I was introduced
to Long Islands. And I'll never forget keijohn a kart,
which this is super cool. I'm gonna probably see Key John.
(04:40):
I know OJ McDuffie will be here. Some people may
not remember who Oj McDuffie is, but OJ McDuffie is
one of the dopest football players to ever play at
Penn State. Ended up going to Miami, had an unfortunately injury.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Well yeah, but he was a very good player with
the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Super super dope. And so there the ones that introduced me,
and they got me faded, Like I mean, fade them dudes,
go hard them. They're like twin brothers go hard in
the paint. Like it's like having Shaq and Yao mean
in the paint at the same time on the same team,
(05:19):
Like they go hard in the paint. And so that
that that was how I got introduced to it. I'll
never forget it. That was also how I got introduced,
I believe to Grenadine and Coronas, which I thought was weird,
but after trying it, I thought it was very very cool.
I had it like maybe a three year run with
(05:41):
Coronas and Grenadine. Yeah. Yeah, I learned a lot of
like interesting things here, you know, And I just really
been in love with Penn State man like lately. So
I've just been on Long Islands for like I don't know,
like for for a few years now. I just I've
just been back on it thing.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
That's what it's like. We got to live vicariously through
you to be to be a Hall of Famer. That's
how that works.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I Mean, they're about to go outside and practice. I
almost for two seconds almost said I thought they were
going to be practicing after the show. Clearly I'm still
on West Coast time, because they're like, yeah, they're practicing
at seven I was like, perfect, and then you realize
hour two. Yeah, I realized it's only hour two here though.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Well, I mean, you know what else is probably practicing
later today? Yes, definitely. D's on Sanders is what it is.
Deon Sanders Prime and the Colorado Buffalo's are getting ready
for an exciting season featured back to back weeks to
start off the year on Big Noon Kickoff. But the
conversation for Deon Sanders on Sports Illustrated turned to the
(06:47):
potential of coaching a team he played for in the NFL,
the Dallas Cowboys. So he spoke with Brie and Mooranthus
of Sports Illustrated about that possibility.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And let's take a listen to Dion.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
And make the comparisons between college and the NFL and
the potential of going back and reuniting with Jerry Jones
as a head coach.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I'm not an assistant coach. That's not me. I'm ahead.
Speaker 6 (07:14):
I'm not because I know who I am, I know
what I am, and I don't settle for mediocre to whatsoever.
I don't have any desire ambition to coach in the NFL.
I have a problem with men getting to check and
not doing the jobs. I have a problem with that,
Like I would be too tough as a coach in
the NFL. I'm old school. You know you're gonna do it.
(07:36):
You're gonna do it this way. We're gonna work out,
but we're gonna be a team. Only thing's gonna be
individual about you is the way you play. So I'm
a little different. I'm kind a little different, but I
love it. I love Jerry Jones. I tremendously love that
whole family, and uh, you know, their step away oftentimes,
So there you go.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Once doesn't like I didn't like being a coach in
the NFL because you know, he's a little bit too
old school. Didn't feel like they could they could handle
some of that criticism that he would dish out there.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
The sensitive thugs need hugs, as my man Fred Smoot has.
I mean, there's a lot of personalities that you have
to deal with, and from what I can gather, it's
way more intense now dealing with you know, pro athletes.
(08:28):
I mean, I don't know, I really I have dealt
with a lot of young people I've mentored. I told
you I officially retired. I'm retired from it, and I'm retired,
like in terms of bringing kids into my home and
stuff like that, Like that's I'm done. But I've done
it for so long, and I watched the evolution of
(08:52):
how these kids are. Man, They're like they've they've they've
turned into zombies. They're like, they're like emotionally emotionally unstable zombies.
That's what they are these days. And they're driven by
(09:15):
AI artificial intelligence. That's a that's this generation of pros,
that's this generation of athletes. It's so weird. If you
could see guys you can know you can know guys
that come from good homes that are AI zombies because
(09:38):
their parents were good parents, probably two family, two parent home,
and allowed allowed them to be raised by YouTube, social media,
and mobile devices. They're they were raised and influenced by them.
You can tell the cat that come from single parent
(10:01):
homes and are literally with no father figure or mother figure,
whichever one it may be, and they're influenced by the
same exact things, Like they're all influenced by the same
exact things, the same exact music and videos and stuff.
They're influenced by the same exact things but have different
(10:25):
different upbringings. And you can tell what type of zombie
they are, this new generation, they're zombies. And so if
you're going to coach a zombie that's getting a paycheck
and oftentimes more than you, Some of these some of
(10:46):
these players are making more than you as a coach.
So these zombies, these AI controlled zombies are looking at
you like what are you talking about? What are you
talking to me about? And why like why are you
talking to me? Like get out of my face? It does,
And that's what I've seen in terms of the evolution.
(11:08):
Like it's just it's like here and they'd be looking
at you like they're listening, but they're not. They're not,
I'm telling you. And it's at the high school level.
He's saying pros And I would say, the only reason
why you say that at pros is because that's the
level where they're actually really everyone's getting paid. You're a professional.
(11:32):
But it's at the high school level. Hell, it's at
the pee wee level. I'm playing this position. No you're not, Yes,
I am. Like it's like so many agendas and so
much disconnect from reality with how these youngsters are these days.
It's kind of it's I'll say it's a tad bit disturbing.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
When he says, when he makes the comment and he
compares the two, obviously, you know, I don't want to
say two different sports, same sport, but a different level.
Coaching in the NFL and coaching in college. It does
feel like two different worlds. And what I find interesting
about it is if a coach either doesn't make the
jump to the NFL but as a successful college coach,
(12:19):
or he makes the jump from college to the NFL,
but maybe he isn't as successful as he is in college,
they're almost diminished, like, yeah, but you didn't do it
at the NFL. Yeah, but you couldn't get done there.
It's almost like a knock on their resume. When Dion
Sanders is telling you, look, I played at the highest
level in the NFL, I'm coaching Division I college football.
I've had success coaching college football. I'm telling you I'm
(12:42):
not interested in it because it's another world and just
the ability.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, and so that's why it's.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
You can you can threaten guys in college?
Speaker 4 (12:53):
Yeah, it feels like and it almost feels like there's there.
You're sort of knocked if you can't do it the
NFL when in the NFL. Maybe you just don't have
the ability to because maybe it's more difficult to tell
a guy who's making fifteen million dollars a year, no,
you're going to be here at this time. We're practicing
this hard.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Eah. No, I'm not like I'm just I'm just.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Not doing it like it's a it's a whole different job,
it feels like. And and I think his approach is, man,
I want to be able to actually coach players, not
manage personalities, and he feels like he's got to do
that at the NFL level more so than college.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
It's kind of I think you definitely have more control
in college than you do and and the pros and
really in any other any other level, because if you're
talking high school, you could you could threaten somebody in
high school. They'll go tell their mother or their father
you're going to get fired, like you're out of there,
(13:48):
or they'll quit like I'm not going to make it anyway.
Or you can look at college and you'd be like
I'm almost there, Like I am one level away from
making it to the pros. And whether you're a backup
or you're a starter, you know that everything at this
(14:11):
point truly matters, like the way the coaches talk about you, everything,
your film, everything matters. When you get to that point
of where you're actually able to look at the pros
as being a valuable possibility, and so you're willing to
handle the verbal abuse that comes your way because you
(14:33):
don't have anything except the game and what that game
can provide for you. You're not gonna let no professor talk
to you that way. You're not gonna let anybody else
outside of a coach talk to you the way that
a coach is going to talk to you at times
because of what it is that's at stake for you,
which is weird, right because you would think like, well,
(14:55):
if a coach can talk to you crazy, then a
professor should be able to talk to you crazy. I
wish professor would talk to me crazy. I wish I
wish one, I wish one would like who the audacity
of you? Educator of of of a higher level? Raising
(15:16):
your voice at me, mother, fing me please you, I
don't talk to me that way, but let a coach
do it. And you be sitting there like.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Sir, yes, sir, I'll be, I'll be tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I'll be outside. Yeah, I'll get it right this time.
Please don't mother f me like I don't even say that,
you just take it. So I just think it's the
level of control and Dion, Dion would probably people don't
realize how detailed. If you didn't know him, you wouldn't
know how detailed Dion is. Dion is almost I mean,
(15:54):
you know, I ain't I'm not one to clinically diagnose anybody,
but Dion is almost like almost like like a rain
Man type bro. He's like really really like OCD with
what he does, like every single detail.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I mean, a lot of successful people are like like
every every ounce of it matters, like every set Like
a lot of people would dismiss, well, why does it
matter if I, you know, get up at this time
and make my bed first. And for some people it's
like that's how it gets him going, Like that's that's
the first step in a long process of a successful day.
(16:33):
And it's always like you know the old adage, you know,
run the day, don't let the day run you. And
he strikes me as one of those guys who's gonna
be in control, and he's gonna have full control of
whatever he's got his hands on. And whatever he's operating,
and he probably feels like I don't have the ability
to have full control in the NFL. That's why we
talked about it last week, Nick Saban. Some people will
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look at Nick Saban's run in the NFL and say, oh, yeah,
he wasn't successful, so they almost diminish his historical impact
on the game.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
No, hell no, he wasn't bad.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
But he recognized, Okay, I'm better served going back and
coaching at Alabama than staying here with the Dolphins and
trying to figure out the quarterback position, which was the issue.
And guess what, he was right. He's become the greatest
head coach in the history college football. But I think
people look at it and say, yeah, but he couldn't
(17:25):
do it at that at that level in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
So therefore, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I just show me your accolades to the people that said, oh,
he couldn't do it, show me your accolades, accolades, please, Yeah,
what are your accomplishments? Oh he couldn't do it at
at the pro level? Show me what what was your
how'd you do at the pro level? What'd you do?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
What'd you do? Agreed?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
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So LaVar Arrington, you are in state call yes, somebody
else who was a star at Penn State in state college,
Saquon Barkley.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
That is very true, like a tremendously large star.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, but a star.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Unfortunately, there's a there's a former Giants running back who, uh,
you know, I guess maybe doesn't see the true value
in Saquon Barkley and the contract he's asking for from
the New York Giants. And that somebody would be Tiki Barber,
who had this to say Antiqui and Tyranny about the
possibility of giving Saquon Barkley a long term deal or
(19:38):
maybe even going your separate ways.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
I know that Giant fans want Saquon Barkley on this team,
no doubt about it. They feel like they need Saquon
Barkley on this team. But the fact is, if he's
not on this team, I honestly don't know if they'd
be worse off. I think they would be just because
of a lock. But I can't say for fact this
team will not win ten games games at Saquon bar
I can't say that.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Now. I could say that, yes, I think a lot
of would say that.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Jeff Kerr of cbssports dot com pointed this out because
here on this show we get full credit when people
do the deep dive on stats, we get full credit here.
We're not a bunch of thieves on this show. Jeff
Cerr of cbssports dot com pointed this out. The Giants
were eight and two when Saquon Barkley rushed for seventy
plus yards last season, seven and two when he had
one hundred plus scrimmage yards, and zero to three when
(20:30):
Barkley rushed for less.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Than fifty yards last season.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
So that would be an indicator that maybe they do
need Saquon Barkley and they would be a better team
and better off.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Of Saquon Barkley as they're running back again this year.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yeah, I mean, I would to agree with the idea
that having Saquon Barkley is imperative to Daniel Jones and
day Ball, Big truck Nuts Stayball to be able to
have the success that they need to have. If you're
going to build Paul what you did last year, one
thing you do not do is get rid of one
(21:05):
of the key cogs that was a part of that success. Yeah,
and I don't think anyone can argue that. You cannot
argue the fact that Saquon Barkley was the catalyst to
the success of the New York Giants offense, ken are you?
Speaker 4 (21:17):
And also, I would say as much as Daniel Jones
had a bounce back year last year, I don't know
that anybody looks at the Giants and says, he's so good,
we'll just figure it out at running back. I just
I don't know that that's the case. I don't think
it's a you know, it's like the Bills have been
trying to figure out a solution at running back, but
(21:38):
it's not the end all be all because they've got
Josh Allen. Same with Kansas City. They you know, they
could throw in whoever, Isaiah Pacheco, wherever you want at
running back. Lashan McCoy was there for a short time
in Kansas City, but because they've got Mahomes, they're going
to be okay. Man With the Giants, Saquon Barkley is
like a big part of what they do on offense.
(21:59):
And I don't I think it's coincidental that Saquon Barkley
finally has a bounce back a year and plays well
and the Giants are in the playoffs last year.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
I mean it's a direct correlation. Man, his numbers are
almost identical to his rookie season. It's almost identical. Outside
of receptions. He had fifty seven this past year and
ninety one his rookie year, But he ran for thirteen
hundred and twelve yard thirteen hundred and twelve this year.
(22:30):
In his rookie season, he ran for thirteen one hundred
and seven yards. Four point four yard average per carry
this year, five yard average per carry in his rookie season.
Ten TD year this past year, eleven. His rookie year,
he won Rookie of the Year. He was up for
(22:52):
he was in consideration for Player of the Year for MVP.
At one point during the course of the season. He
was probably the hottest thing going as an offensive player
at one point during the course of this season. You
don't just you don't just let that go. You don't
(23:13):
you don't just casually address a player that has that
type of impact. He had to me, he's more impactful
when he's healthy for the New York Giants than even
Dalvin Cook was for Minnesota. If you ask me, and
I'm telling you that is a tremendous departure for Minnesota.
(23:40):
People may not realize how big it is just yet,
but they're going to find out. They're going to find out.
And I'm telling you right now, the running backs position
is being devalued because there are other guys that can
get in there and do things that are comparable or
serviceable for the team. But when you have a guy
(24:02):
that is the relief, the catalysts of your offense, like
a Marshall Folk or an Edger and James, you know,
those type of running backs that actually dictate, you know,
the success of your team of Fred Taylor. When you
have those type of running backs, you got to take
(24:24):
care of them while they still they got Like Sequon
probably has a good two three more years of playing
at a very very high level. That's barring any type
of crazy injuries. Saquon can really really help your team
out over the next three years, maybe even four.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
And I could understand the argument for the Giants and well,
he has an issue staying healthy.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Okay, Well he did. He did stay healthy last year.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
I mean he might have gotten banged up a little bit,
and I think you would come to ta and he
doesn't think he had.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Two seasons where he was really really banged up right,
twenty twenty, I think and.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
One yeah, And so last year it was a return
to form, a return to how effective he was his
first year in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
And his second year he put up a G two.
And he's put up three seasons in five years. He's
put up three seasons of thousand yard thousand yard years.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
I get the vibe when Saquon Barkley was talking a
couple of weeks ago at his camp, I get the
vibe that he's not being unreasonable.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
This isn't like a Zeke Elliott.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
I'm going to can Kun and I'm going to hang
out with Eric Dickerson at Mango Banngo or whatever it's called.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I thought it was Marshall Faulk, it could be.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Was it Mango Deck? Is that what it's called? Is
that the place?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Well, that's the place I was hanging out when I
went there. By we went to Mango Deck.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
There's a place in Ensinnata, Mexico called Mango Mango and
I got sawed off there. Oh my god, bucket of
beers for like four cents and just got.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Since ripped in. Did they just give you Mexican water.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
No, I think it was soul like uh, like you know,
cheap Mexican beer soul when you go out there. For
some reason, I was with my buddy. We got so good. Yeah,
it was great.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Uh for some reason we were sitting there and we
got so hammered. We just started buying everything the vendors
brought around. He he bought a sling shot. I have
no idea why we bought beer holsters never used.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Were y'all shooting them? Well? Were y'all using the sling shot?
I have no idea I had a sling shot. I
had a real sling shot.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Before made well like put together well like.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
I mean, somebody bought it for me. Like you know,
I had a whole lot of government friends. And one
of my one of my guys, he probably he's I
don't know if it was Marcus who did that, or
or my other guy. Uh, it wasn't Marcus. It was
I had another was it Tim? Tim was like an
ex military dudes. I'm pretty certain because he brought me
(26:58):
a whole bunch of uh done guns too, Like I
had like twenty guns. He bought me all kinds of
stuff that that I could use for personal protection. And
I think he brought me a sling shot. And let
me tell you something. If you know how to use
a sling shot, brouh, that's like one of the funnest
things to do. Oh yes, if you know how to.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Use a sling shit, it's also difficult as hell to
do because you got to make sure that the strap
is wrapped around perfectly, you get to have steady on
your front hand, and then you've got to release it
at just the right time or else you won't be accurate.
If you're accurate with a slingshot, there's nothing you can't do.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
So let me just tell you. You're talking about the
one that you swing. I'm talking about the one that's
connected to a stick. Yes, which one are you talking
I'm talking about connected to the stick. Yeah. I pull
that bad boy back and I let that thing ripe.
I mean, I was deadly accurate.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
So you're you're not worried about accuracy as much as
you are just the amount of velocity you got on it.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Oh no, I was accurate. Okay, I don't want to
tell you what I was doing with my sling shot,
but because you know, Peter might come come calling and
it's been a really long time. It was when I
lived in Maryland and I lived on forty eight acres
of property.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Well, okay, hey, what do you what'd you take care
of out there?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Was it peacock?
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I mean no, there's no peacocks in Maryland. Dove.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
No, a couple of pigeons, I.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Mean maybe a bird, Okay, maybe maybe a squirrel.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Well, let me tell you something. Squirrels I don't feel
the least but bad. They're rats with bigger.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Tails, the furry furry tales, with furry tales.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
I can't stay. Yeah, I can't stand squirrels. They're they're
just they're terrible. And then they look at you like
you're intruding on their territory. It's like, dude, you don't
even pay rent here, and they're they're like leaving little
like uh like nuts.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Around, like bearing it in the yard.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
You see the you think he got a golfer in
the You got to put a hose in it. You
realize there's no goal for there, just bearing stuff there.
And then it's you know, some of it's fake. They
just want to They're looking at you and making you
look like an ass to yourself in front of your family,
because they're bearing stuff around the yard that's not actually there.
I can't stand squirrels, so I hope you sling them up.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I caught a couple of squirrels slink trees from from
my deck. I had a sniper rifle too, so I
had a sniper, right. I had a sniper rifle, a
P ninety. You ever know you know what a P
ninety is?
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah, what's nine?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Oh? Bro? Like I had. I have an arsenal of
weapons that I don't have anymore. But when I lived
on my property, I had like and you know, me
and my we go shooting, and we were legal to
shoot because I was outside like where I was at,
I was zoned to be able. I could hunt my
property like, so I could shoot like I wouldn't get
(29:53):
I get no trouble if I took a dare down,
you know. So whatever, if you came on property, you
were fair, gay and and so anyways, I needless to say,
if I got bored at times, I'd go out on
my back deck and I'd like be a sniper like,
(30:16):
and I would start sniping stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
That was your own mango deck.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
That was my mango deck.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
That was the bango deck.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Yeah, it was it was. It was like it was
it was like, those were some pretty cool times. It's
pretty fun times, man, I'll just pretty fun times.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
I'll say this to close up the Saquon Barkley conversation because.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
We got way off. I'll tell you what though. The
worst assassination before you finish up with with with sa
Quon was it was this poor possum. It was a possum.
And I feel like possums are big rats too. They're
just bigger version.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Rats, although they're marsupials, uh, which is weird because you
look at a possum and you go there.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Kind of look like a rat.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Like if somebody if you saw a possum and a
kulla next to each other, it would be like, hey,
who's your hot friend over there?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Oh it's my cousin. Yeah, you're not related to that, buddy.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I don't feel like. I don't feel like they're they
should be related, and they are, right, I feel like
they should be more related to rats. Yeah, they look
like big ass rats. Agreed, and I destroyed.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Them so well. The good news is for Saquon Barkley.
According to Ian Rappaport, they are talking again you're talking.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
They should be talking, because that's not that's not something
that should Like the Marra family and the Tish family,
they're they're they're real pros man, they're they're good people.
It's a great organization, well ran organization. They'll they'll figure
it out.
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Speaker 3 (31:58):
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Speaker 4 (32:05):
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Speaker 3 (34:07):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Ugly, all right, lead to laugh. Who's got what this week?
Speaker 9 (34:19):
Well, as we do each and every week, we start
with the good. And you know it's a good week
because it's me giving you the good.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, and you guys, I got some good for you.
Speaker 9 (34:26):
Friend of the show and member of up on Game
Plexico Burst was on The Carton Show and was asked
a very important question and gave a very good answer.
Take a listen, You're stranded and Alaska it's life for death.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
You pick up the phone, you can only call a
former player that you know who you calling, that you
know for sure.
Speaker 6 (34:45):
Is getting on a plane to come.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Help you out. Oh LeVar Arrington, LeVar Arrington. Okay, there
you go.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
How about right, Matt?
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Oh he's right.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
I mean, how about Plexio Burrus lying on national TV
like that?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
It was unbelievable that he would lie?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Right? How about that? That's called accountability, my guy?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
First of all, First of all, I'm hearing reports that
the only way you would show up to pick him
up is it was on first class. If it wasn't
first class, you ain't making it.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
That's what I heard.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Hey, look here, man, however we get in there, I'm
picking the home at the homie needs me. I'm in
the wind. You hear what I'm telling you? When you
got that rapport for one another and one of y'all
hit me up and was like, var like I need you, man,
like I'm gonna be there? Who will be there?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Who was the who is the cu? It was David
Tellison back in the days. All a friend will help
you kill somebody, A best friend to.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Help you bury the body? About it?
Speaker 1 (35:48):
About it.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
What about me? Would you would you go to a
student you just hear me say it, Yeah, but it
was good.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
If one of y'all hit me up, yeah, I'm there.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
But I think because it's a former player, you know,
it feels like you prefer them over a guy like
me or Lee to laugh, feels like we would be secondary.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I mean I spend as much time with you guys
as I did with my teammates, you know what I mean.
We spend it so where you know, my close teammates
become my family. You know, you guys become my family.
I talk to you guys quite a bit. I mean,
we interact quite a bit, and it's every day real
up there.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
You know, Lee, who's got the bad this week? Well,
Varr was part of the good. But Var what was
bad this week?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Man? I mean I hate I'm struggling with with going
with the one that I had. You saw my former
teammate is getting divorced, man, Like, that's bad. I hate
when I see guys are getting divorced. I think, after
like a ten year marriage, who's getting divorced? Samuels is
getting divorced, So that's bad, man. I wish him and
(36:53):
his family well, I hope everything works out for.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Them and Jonas. What was ugly this week? All right?
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Listen Mariah Cherry or whatever her name is, Mariah, that
adult film star, Mariah Mills, General Mills, Patty Mills, whatever
her name is. Hey, you gotta get over it, babe.
It's over, Zion, he ain't coming back. And you can
threaten all you want until you're blue in the face.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
It's over.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
He's ready to get that hammer dropped on her.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Hammers hammer.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
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