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May 19, 2022 39 mins

Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington react to Joe Burrow speaking up for Baker Mayfield who should be freed so he can land on his feet. Eric Kendricks is excited to move on from Mike Zimmer’s fear-based culture in Minnesota, and the return of “Horse Name or Horse Crap” ahead of the Preakness this weekend.

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We'll take you all the way up until nine am
Eastern times six o'clock Pacific right here on FS are so. Um,
Joe Burrow the the stud quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Is he one of the like the top three five
young stars in the NFL that they were going to
build their league around. So he's gonna get paid eventually, right,
I mean we're gonna talking already gotten paid with being

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the number one overall pick. He's going to get paid
even more. Yeah. So Joe Burrow has been you know,
he's he's talked a lot recently. He was on the
Full Send podcast with Brady's buddy Bob Manery. Um, you
know Brady's guy. Brady made that guy famous inviting him
on our show years and years ago, and uh he said, uh,
this to say about the Baltimore Ravens, which strike me

(01:47):
as an organization and a team you probably don't want
to stir up a little bit. But here's what Joe
Burrow had to say. I love playing the Ravens. They
like to talk, and so when I don't, I don't
start talking. But I usually somebody you know, pokes me.
I can talk a little bit. So we've got ourselves
a rivalry there with the Baltimore Ravens. He also went
on to point out, um, you know, the the number

(02:08):
of yards he threw four against the Ravens, um and
uh and so he's stirring things up a little bit.
He also had had this to say about the Baker
Mayfield discussion and what the Cleveland Browns planned to do
a quarterback. That's a tough situation. You know, he was
hurt hurt all last year. And I mean every time
we play him, he balls. He the first time we

(02:31):
played him Thursday night, Week two of my rookie year,
that was we lost like thirty to thirty four something.
He bawled. And then the next time we play him,
I throw four yards and he goes like eight with
five touchdowns, goes on two minute drive, touchdown, won the game.

(02:55):
I haven't beat the Browns yet. He beat us both
times this year. Like I said, play a second game
because we had it all all locked up, but the
first one he bawled. Why do you think his situations
so like up in the air. You know, I think
when you have a guy like Sean, you know you
gotta take a chance at that because he's such a
great player. But Baker will end on his feet. He's

(03:15):
a really good player. So think about what he's saying, uh,
that guy he just talked about the bald every time
they play him, whose former number one overall pick. I
still can't get over the fact that guy doesn't have
a job. Like, he just doesn't have a job. There's
just there's just nothing out there for Baker Mayfield at
this point. Well, okay, I mean kind of. I mean
technically he does, but I mean he's not showing up.

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And I know Albert Brier has been been pushing that
as well too. He should show up. It'd be entertaining
as hell. But even Joe Burrow, who played against him,
is saying, look, I mean every time we see him,
he plays well, and that guy's out of a job.
It's just the whole situation is weird. Um, Look Seattle Carolina, Um,
the Jets. You can't tell me that there the optimism

(04:03):
around those teams wouldn't better if he was their quarterback.
I'm just being real. I mean, I think Seattle Caroline
are easy to say, but there's the awkwardness of you know,
Sam Donalds in the same traft class. They've gotten that
route already two times before, you know, you draft the
mac Crown the third round. Okay, I mean I don't
think you owe him anything. You know, that's where you

(04:24):
took him, and you trade it up. You know, you
don't have a pick after the first round of the
fourth and you trade it up in the third. So okay,
But he would be an approvement to to any of
those those teams in my opinion, Like I like everyone,
you know, give me a hard time about, Hey, what
that schedule looks like for the Jets in the first
nine games and what their outlook probably is. I think

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if he's your quarterback, you feel a lot better about it.
You know, I know that much. And I know the
fan base from the New York Jets would absolutely love
the way he is. They always fire and all that.
So you know, Houston would be another place that I
think Davis Mills could be really good. But you know,
that's another place where it could make some sense if
you want to be competitive right away. Like I just

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I'm still just surprised how much has changed in in
a year's time, and obviously here now. Plus he was
betting on himself a year ago, you're betting on yourself.
A year later, you're you're being held in limbo. And
then and the crazy thing is is they knew what
he was going through injury wise and all that, and

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and yet like they still weren't willing to give him
that that opportunity to at least, you know, either with
an extension or whatever else. I mean, let's be honest,
if this Deshaun Watson thing doesn't work out, you're in
it for a quarter of a billion dollars, but you
can't get out from under that. They wouldn't have had
to pay Baker Mayfield probably anywhere close to that as

(05:49):
far as guarantees. Let's let's say, maybe a hundred million.
I mean, like even even considering you know whatever, you
want to consider what the market is for quarterbacks, you know,
he wasn't gonna make that much. I mean, it's just
that deal was astronomical in the sense of, you know
what I think was probably being offered to Baker, which
maybe even more off putting when it's all said, because

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because normally if you get to that point, you get
a Dak Prescott or a Kirk Cousins were Okay, well,
we can't get a long term deal done, we can't
come to terms, but at least we can franchise you. No,
that was itxactly like literally less than a year later.
Not he's he's dangling in the wind. And Deshaun Watson
is the brand new quarterback of the Cleveland Browns with
two thirty million guaranteed and he may not even be

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available from for a large portion of the season. It's crazy,
hey bald. But here's the thing in terms of him
bawling as it applies to Joe Burrow, there wasn't there's
if his game or or the trust and what what
Baker brought to the table as a Cleveland Brown was

(06:53):
significant enough, they would have re upped him and this
would have been a non converse station and it might
have been a non conversation going into last year's season,
if not even coming out of this year, Like, you
know what, Baker tough toughed it out, He made it
through our team largely in part was banged up this year,

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and you know, we're going to reward him because he's
our franchise quarterback. But the market in Cleveland spoke and
he was not good enough for them to want to
do that. They felt like, you know, going to de
Shaun was the better option. The problem here is not
that Baker can play. The problem is is is Baker

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good enough. Was Baker good enough for you to take
on everything that came with what it would take for
you to get him from Cleveland? And the market has
spoken again and that that has been no. So it's
not that he wouldn't give another team a great opportunity
to improve themselves. It's the cost that it comes to

(08:01):
be able to get his services right now. That's the
most complicated part of what's going on right now with
Baker Mayfield. Let me ask you as this if last year,
taking into account because he was banged up, that was legitimate.
All that stuff is real and and Joe Burrow pointed
that out, and we've seen him play good football at times.
If he didn't have the personality clashes that he's had

(08:22):
with either teammates or people in the media that are
well documented, is is Baker Mayfield still the quarterback of
the Cleveland Browns? Because how much of this plays into
his personality and maybe more so than it does what
he did on the field. I don't know. I keep
looking back at like the Kirk Cousins during his time
in Washington, you know, because he obviously different personality, not

(08:47):
as I guess I should say, not as fiery, just
not fiery the same way where he's gonna, you know,
talk a little big at chippy with people, I mean
outside of you like that, like you know, coming out
in the locker room or in the locker going into it,
going in like that was it right, Like that was
like his fiery moment, Like that was the moment. You know, Um,
it seems like Baker Mayfield, there's a little more of that.

(09:08):
I don't I don't know. It's it's it's it's really
odd to think, like the first time they want a
playoff game and god knows how long a great season,
it just all goes to hell and he's playing banged
up and they know that. It's just and by the
way they were, they were playing well against Kansas City
in that second game that game, like they were in

(09:28):
that game and a lot of people point to the
you know, the Donovan people's Jones played the goal line
that kind of changed the game and Patrick Mahomes got
dinged a little bit, but they were in that game.
They were competitive on the road in that game. It
really goes to show you when you have a new
head coach come in, if he didn't draft you, it
doesn't really matter. It doesn't like he's you're not his guy.

(09:51):
You know, it's like it's like a wife swap. Like
it they look good. I mean, I mean, everything might
might be set up for you to think, oh, this
is gonna work out right, But no, you weren't the
one I decided to marry. Like, I gotta deal with
this like it's just a weird it's a weird scenario. Honestly,
I'm still shocked that it got to the point at
which it did. I don't know that I ever will copy.

(10:13):
So if it's of your justin Field, you're looking around going, uh,
you know, I should probably start thinking about renting out
my place. You know, it's justin Fields, Trevor Lawrence. I mean,
all these kids are uber talented, but they're with organizations
that you know, either if you've got a new head coach,
you're not there guy. I mean yeah, they can they
can say right now, well, it took the job because

(10:35):
of these these guys. The truth is like they're gonna
see something else that looks, you know, shinier and nicer
or at least in more enticing, and say, let's drop
this guy. Let's start over. You know, let this guy
goes somewhere else. I mean, that's just the reality of it,
and it's it's really it's an odd scenario, but unfortunately,
I think that's the future for for some of these

(10:56):
organizations that I think we would deem our bad organizations.
It's May nineteen. Why won't they just cut him? I
may forgot goodness sakes, just cut the gosh dart Hey,
free Mayfield, freemaker A yeah, we have free free the Baker.

(11:18):
Yeah it is cook. It's so bizarre. I mean, would
he come on the show? You think we would get
Baker Mayfield on the show? We can we pull a
couple of strings? Why not? Come on? I'll be honest.
You're not a great interviewer, so I'm a little scared.
But let me work on it. Let me try out
some let me work on. We have Albert Brier in
the third hour today and I mean that's a weekly

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and I'm scared enough to think what You're gonna ask
him this? Okay? Well, look, I mean because I had
the balls to ask Yeah, definitely, it's not that. It's
because you like doing solo shows, and when you do
a solo show, you don't bring on guests very honest,
I don't know they're hanging out for three. I don't
ask for these gifts, all right. I don't ask for
these gifts. They were they were given to me, and

(12:00):
what do you want me to do with them? All right?
So I'm I'm a great interviewer. I always have guests on.
I mean, look, I just big name guess. I mean,
lav came on the weekend show. I mean, you know,
try to get Brady on. He's, you know, usually busy
at an Easter egg hunt or some sort of you know,
get together like that. He can't make the show. So
you know, I gotta turn to uh, you know, I
gotta go to the bullpen from time to time, you know, LaVar.

(12:21):
The funny thing is, I've never received an invitation for
jonas that particular day I offered to try to come on,
and then as I took my my three daughters to
this Easter egg hunt, what's was an absolute disaster because
it happened to be during that time for our two
year old. And so I like every single time, like
she gets to a point and it's it's almost like

(12:43):
listening to like a tea kettle get ready, like all right,
like it's time, like the waters boiling like it's going
to explode. It's like every single time it's like that.
And I saw that moment happening, and I think Jonas
was like trying to text me. I don't I don't
think I even had my phone because at that point
I was used get to like play Coco Melon or something.
She was, My god, I can't don't even get me started.

(13:06):
Man on um, it is just nauseating stretch time on
Disney Junior, like all that crap. Was tired of it,
you know. I was just being happy about seeing like
cartoons stuff on uh social media, and I was like, man,
I am so happy to be done with it. My like,

(13:28):
my youngest daughter is now old enough now where she's
watching like you know, when she does her programming, she's
either doing you know, roadblocks I think it's what it's called,
or she's you know, she's watching like like more more
like suitable programming, like tolerable, like I was so handy

(13:48):
Mandy out and and and uh what was the pets.
Let's go to work, team work, Let's go to work,
team work. I would be sleep and wake up and herring,
Let's go to work to work. Yeah, man, it is
uh yeah, it is the It is the worst. I

(14:10):
usually just if I wanted to fall asleep, I'll just
put on an NBA playoff game. Oh wow wow. But
back to the original point, can they please just cut
Baker Mayfield? What are what are what are they doing? Man? Like?
Like like Q, you be havingn insight? What are they doing?

(14:32):
Like what? I don't know? What is? Honestly? What hits
the purpose of still having him on ter I got
a Christmas card every year from Hibby Hassle. I'm not
sure why they didn't play for the organization when he
was there and be I've never been too fond of
some of his uh you know, moves. But I have
no idea. I maybe I'll try writing a note back.

(14:53):
Let's see if he writes me back. So give me
about four weeks before USPS and how long it takes back,
probably will still be on the roster. Bother me. Can
I question? Hey, can I shoot? What what is in
the Christmas card you get from Jimmy hasm Is it
just your standard he sends it to everybody generic or
is it specifically addressed to you and the family? Does
he call the kids by their name? Like, what what's

(15:14):
in a card from Jimmy has Um Christmas card? Tell Um,
it's pretty basic. It's not like it's anything, and it's
obviously not actually handwritten by him. I don't think it's
hand written at all. But it's just the fact that
somehow someone still has my address. Maybe it's just the
Brown's alumni and they just send him out to everyone.
That's what my assumption is, because I'm like still surprised
at times um that they haven't been like, hey, we

(15:37):
should probably not send a note to this guy. You know,
maybe they're trying to keep the relationship strong because they
realize they're going to need a starting quarterback for like,
you know, nine games this upcoming season. Well they got
Baker on on the roster. Well yeah, I mean, you know,
I think at this point, but in all honestly, the
fact that like you picked up his fifth your option,
you knew you were gonna have to pay this money. Like,

(16:00):
I don't know, maybe I'm crazy, but if I was
sitting in that front office, I would say, Okay, are
we picking up the fifth year option? And it's after
year three, they go to the playoffs, they win a game,
You're going, yes, Okay, that's great. We're all happy about
where we're at right now. But let's just play out
some scenarios, right, what happens if he doesn't play well?

(16:20):
Play sir? What are we doing? Then? Are we still
paying this money? Or are we still okay doing this deal?
And everyone should sit there and go, yeah, okay if
that's the case, if you played out every scenario as
an organization, you should be sitting there then saying you
know what, like let's just take a we can get,
or let's just cut them, like we already planned on
doing this anyway. Eighteen million sounds like a lot of money,

(16:42):
and we're gonna have to eat that. But we made
that decision and we knew that going into it, Like
we we knew if you run what's called like a
sensitivity analysis, right, you're gonna look at the percentage chances
of a vast array of things happening. And this is
what these analytical folks do. Okay. They will literally take
like an Excel spreadsheet and they'll run all these different

(17:03):
models and they're saying, hey, what's the percentage chance that
Baker plays so bad in year four? We're not gonna
have him back on the team, we're gonna look elsewhere,
and they might have put that at ten. Whatever it was, Hey,
what's the chance he plays so well? We're like literally
hounding him down to sign into a big time extension.
And then there's always variations in between, right, and then

(17:24):
they'll run out a model to say, hey, what should
our decision be here? Well, they obviously to pick up
the option on them, and so if they're gonna do that,
it's like, well, then you already bought into the percentage
chance that he wasn't gonna play well enough for you
to feel confident about an extension, So just let the
guy go. My god, they're probably working on new towel
designs for Deshaun Watson. Maybe that's what was that. I

(17:45):
just I feel bad for him because now it's like
put them in a spot where you let the draft
come and go. And teams have other guys too that
they've got on their roster that we're looking with, So
it doesn't even really give him a fair chance or
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coming up later on this hour, it's the return of
something all right, We've done it one time in this show,
the return of horse name or horse craft. Uh, we
have got we got something special coming up later on

(19:09):
this hour, about twenty minutes from now. Come on, LaVar,
you start with every once in a while you strike
it big knows. I love the ponies it's come on,
the Stallions, Yeah, come on, And I believe and if
I'm not mistaken, the Stallions were the on the Last

(19:32):
Boy Scout team. So when we play Friday night, is
uh whatever for football? The last I believe the Stallions
were the name of that team in the Last Day Scout.
So just some Stallions here, that's all. We are, just
some Stallions. Um. So what do you guys make of
Eric Kendricks. By the way, Air Kendricks part of the

(19:52):
Buckis Award winner alum uh the LaVar Arrington. Obviously you
know that smacked you, pashtag we are uh d up.
Paul Pauz loves me? Is that how you pronounced his name?

(20:12):
So Chris Thomason of the Saint Paul Pioneer Press, he
talked with Eric Kendricks the All Pro about the new
coaching staff in Minneapolis, and Kendricks was saying, um uh,
you know he loves it. There's he has great communication
with all those guys. But this is also going back
to his commentary when Mike Zimmer was fired earlier in

(20:33):
the off season, in which he uh talked about a
fear based approach from Mike Zimmer and company. After that
he didn't think it was the best way to run
an organization. So apparently it is positive vibes there in
Minneapolis with the Minnesota Vikings UH and no longer the
scare tactics that were used by Mike Zimmer, who looked
like he was ready to assault Kirk Cousins after a

(20:55):
game last year. He did this, did a little piste
off if the Kirk Cousins was fired up and Mike
Zimmer just doesn't like him. I mean, you could make
the case that Cousins assaulted Zimmer. First, it looks like
he put his hands on him. That that is true,
So I mean that is true, that is true. First
it was it was like with Jonas accused Matt Stafford
pushing that photographer at the I would never say that

(21:19):
on the air. I mean I would never did say,
and that is that is that is a reckless accusation
by Brady Quinn. I would say, even more reckless than
Matt Stafford shoving a woman off a stage like We're
gonna okay, you know, for a linebacker to come out
and have that to say that that the coach here

(21:40):
scare tactics or or created a culture affair, you know
that's you gotta see the legitimacy and and what it is.
And I know Kendricks listen if they're feeling is though
his his approach became that, you know, that's just I
don't know, I don't know where that works anymore, because

(22:03):
I think people are motivated by the fears that they're
motivated by, right Like for me, I never wanted to fail,
you know, and that I was a lot of times
at times I was afraid of a failure, so I
would work my ass off to try to avoid failing.
Didn't mean that I didn't fail at times. It just

(22:25):
meant that that was something that drove me. But that
was innately inside of me. I didn't need somebody to
try to scare me into doing it. You know, some
people parent by you know, you're going to get, you know,
some corporal punishment if you do the wrong things. You know,
you make the wrong move, you don't get your homework done,

(22:46):
you said something wrong to the school teacher, you got
sent to the office. Whatever it is. You're coming home
and that paddle is coming out, like I just that
that's never done anything for me, you know. So when
you you're a coach and you're dealing with grown ass men.
I just never and I don't know what type of
form that took, you know, and what I don't know

(23:08):
if there was specifics from him in terms of what
that fear, you know, how he created that fear environment
of of that's you know, do it or else. But
I just don't. I always felt like you get way
better results when guys are willing to run through a
wall for you, and and the motivation is I'd rather

(23:29):
not let him down versus you know, I'm afraid that
he'll cut me, or or he'll bench me, or he'll
find me, whatever it may be. I just those type
of guys. You just look at him, and it's like, man,
if I could bro Like, if if I got five
minutes and nobody knew what happened between you and I,

(23:51):
I would beat you, like, beat you bad, like beat
like like hurt you did that happen anywhere with you?
I mean came close and it didn't scare me or
anything like that, But there was like there were moments
and going, I'm not going for your bait. Like you
know mouse traps, You know, mouse traps don't always work

(24:13):
once the mouse figures out that once you grab the cheese,
you know you're gonna be stuff right there. You um,
which which ten bucks? You know? Like, I mean, come on,
I'm going to contribute to the n I help, you know,
that's my thing. I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna my ten
dollars every time is going towards helping pay pay student athletes. There.

(24:37):
But you're gonna be getting fired all the time. Yeah,
bit times support. That's well done, well done, well done.
You know what I'm not. I'm not gonna take this
gonna I'm gonna find that Notre Dame and I fund
put my funds towards. That's right. The idea was behind
this is defined in suitable cause we could rotate every month,
so we still have to pick one for may I mean,

(25:00):
uh well, I mean listen to free Baker Mayfield. That is,
can we set up some sort of a fund to
get him out of Cleveland? How can we facilitate that?
I'm just saying, enough fives, enough fines, we can you know,
just you know, try to cover off like a tenth
portion of his contract and tell Cleveland to please um

(25:21):
give him this these funds or you guys take these
funds and you guys release them and let them go,
you know, like we'll give them. We'll give them like,
you know, a hundred dollars, you know, two hundred dollars
and say, listen, this should be suffice. You guys, cut them,
let them go and let them find a team, you know,
before training camp starts, because we're now getting into the

(25:42):
lane and the land of heading into training camp. Guys
like so, which means that they're either holding him for
some uh, some type of loophole that's in the contract
where if they hold them all the way up until
roster cuts or whatever it may be that they might
say on some money. I just feel like at this

(26:03):
moment they're trying to save money someway somehow, and I
just don't know what it is. But it might be
in his contract. They can't he's guaranteed the eighteen millions.
There might be something else, though there might be more
money somewhere else. There might there might be something else
that is in the contract, and that might be I
can't understand why else they would be holding him until

(26:24):
a certain time. I don't know, can I can I
aschie you guys this uh Kevin O'Connell, the new head
coach with with the Vikings speaking of quarterbacks and you
know are kind of on you know, rough terms with
previous regimes and all that. Um. He talked about how
Kellen Mond, who they took in a third round, I
believe last year out of Texas A and m um

(26:44):
that he's been doing a great job this offseason, etcetera, etcetera.
And Mike Zimmer was not very fond of Kellen Mond
last year, did not have really nice things to say
about him, had to clarify some of his con So odd,
wasn't it. It was really strange and i'd he just
just sort of, um. They they brought up that, you know,
is their potential, We're gonna see Kelln Mond in one

(27:06):
of the final games of the season, and Mike Zimmer
said something along the lines of no, I've already seen
him enough of practice, and he was just very dismissive.
And then he had to clarify his comments and say, well,
I wasn't trying to dis him. I think part of
the problem with Zimmer last year is I think the
non vax issue really bothered him. I think he was
vocal about it. Kirk Cousins wasn't vaccinated. Obviously he missed

(27:28):
a game with Sean AMMANI had to play at Green Bay,
and then also Kellen Mond I think missed a game
because he was also not vaccinated. And I think Mike
Zimmer couldn't let that go. There was something about that
that really that really set him off. And and it
feels like that's part of the reason why this culture
seems a bit when you get ultimatums from you know,

(27:49):
from home from the girlfriend. Like if if you come
home with that, I'm leaving, Um, I think you get
a little stretched out about it and maybe a little
irritable at the workplace. Yeah, but if it is uh,
his better half, now you know she's young, and are
they still dating? Who knows? I mean vibrant, you know,

(28:11):
I mean listen. I mean, I don't know if it's
Sean McVeigh level, but you know, you know, it's it's
funny you bring on McVeigh though, because his coaching style
and dating style. I guess there's some things in common,
but um, his coach stuff so different, right, Like, and
the guy that you bring in to replace Zimmer in
Kevin O'Connell comes from the l A. Rams and so

(28:34):
I'm sure he's more coming to them, bringing more of
a positivity, bringing more building him up, like I'll never forget,
you know, Van Jefferson and Sean McVeigh having a moment.
You know, it's one of those NFL films clips where
you know, and granted, Van Jefferson's father coaches, right, he's
he coaches in the NFL. You know, he's he's a player,
like like he he gets that. But Van Jefferson and

(28:56):
McVeigh and McVeigh kind of comes over and congratulates on
I believe catching the touchdown pass and and Van Jefferson
says back to them like thank you for believing in me,
and like they had that sort of corresponse communication. Old
school coaches, it's not like that, you know what happened
to you score a touchdown? Nothing like you you maybe
get an ad of boy or something. You don't know

(29:17):
why it is because they grew up in a time
and an era where you didn't need a paddle the
back like that's your job. That's what you're getting paid
to do. Like there's no reason to applaud you for
doing something that you are literally paid to do. It's
your job description, Like that's part of it, and so
instead they're gonna tell you when you're not doing your job,

(29:38):
but if you're doing your job, you're probably not hearing
much from him. Like that's more of an old school approach,
and that's probably why you know that may be worth
thin on a guy like Eric Kendricks or a wor
thin on Kirk Cousins or whoever else, because it has
the propensity sometimes where if you can't ever you know,
build guys up and you're constantly breaking them down, they've

(29:58):
got to be incredibly mentally tough. And I think that's
the difficulty of all of it. So I just I
kind of looking and go, it's just the changing over
the guard with coaching philosophy and coaching style. You listen
to the guys that either win the media or win players.
It's all positive guys. It's all upbeat energy guys, Sean McVeigh,
Robert Sala, whoever you want to throw into the category

(30:20):
that's taken over a job that that coaches like that,
Like that's more of what I think teams are looking
for some to come into that organization and breathe some life,
you know, not not not cut everyone down with like
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LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas knocks are here on fs
are coming up top the next hour. Um. Apparently it
is down to two. Uh there is one player in
the world of sports that people are pursuing. It's been
in the news a lot lately. Apparently it is down
to two quote unquote. We will dive into whether or
not that's a legit coming up here in a little

(32:04):
over ten minutes from now. Uh So, for anybody that
was around during the Kentucky Derby, a couple of weeks back,
we did a little something called horse Name or horse
Crap where we pitted Brady Quinn vers LaVar Arrington, Star
versus Star pro versus pro to try and decide if
a name I gave them was an actual name of

(32:24):
a horse racing that Saturday. She was really good at it.
You know, he was bad. I think you only missed
one though it was one less. Yeah, but it was
also uh. I mean there was a couple of controversial ones.
There were a yeah, there were there was He gave
me some harder, harder options, you know. There was one

(32:45):
that I vividly remember, and vividly I said, honestly can't remember,
but I do remember saying to you like, oh, that's
a tough one. I probably would have got that wrong. Yeah,
you know it was. It was okay, Yeah it was good.
The Choppers gas station was very controversial. It was yeah,
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(33:09):
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This is obviously with the Preakness coming up in on Saturday,
we decided it's at Pimmoco. So here the stipulations either
this is an actual horse name, or uh, this is
a a horse crap and these are horses that are
racing that Saturday. Can I just start off by saying this, Yeah,
it's messed up that that people consider the poor Man's Derby.

(33:51):
I've heard people call it that disrespect disrespectful. I agree,
that's a bunch of now and Brady, because you are
the fending champ on horse stammer, horse crap. You determine
whether or not you go first or second. So which
where do you want to go? Here? Uh? Well, I
would I would love for the College Football Hall of

(34:12):
Famer Roll Bowler. The I'm gonna I know he's not
gonna take credit for starting lineback you, but I'm gonna
give him credit. I'na have LaVar Arrington got alright, Labar,
how about that? So LaVar Arrington stepped right up. He
set me up, he softened me up at all. Yeah,
he knows that this first one out the gates going

(34:34):
to be hard. Let's go not even close less. Is
this a horse name, a horse running this Saturday at
Pimlico side of the Preakness, or is it horse crap,
LaVar Arrington, horse name or horse crap skippy long stalking
horse name. That is correct. You are on the board.

(34:55):
It's not messing around. Yeah, the board is not being
next we go, that's absolutely I was dropping out the window.
Trough talk continues. We now, Brady Quinn here, Brady, your
first crack at this horse name or horse crap Cogburn.

(35:21):
Uh no, it's not a not that's horse crap. Sorry,
I know I'm mad when I do that. That is incorrect, incorrect.
Cogburn is a horse name. I don't know what. I
don't know why you would think otherwise. It seems like
a reasonable name to me. What does that even mean?
How do I know? I mean, I'm just reading what's
what's what's listed here? All right? So we we go

(35:42):
next over to LaVar Arrington, LaVar holding onto a one
nothing lead here on horse name or horse crap? Uh Laar,
horse name or horse crap under a white sheet, absolutely correct,
and that if it wasn't, I'm not I'm not claiming

(36:02):
that the ball I didn't see. I didn't say white,
I said white sheet. You got to use a seat
to get to the hood. Here. We now go back
down that road to Brady Flynn. Brady next up, horse
name or horse crap here on Fox Sports Radio PI

(36:24):
pod pod Yeah, I say no again, it's horse crap.
That is correct. Brady on the board, that is uh
a made up name? All right? So we go back
over to LaVar. You were next up here? How about

(36:48):
crabs and beer? Horse name or horse horse name? I mean,
I don't care, so I'm all the way in on
this horse name that is correct. War is on fire.
I'm playing. I'm playing like I'm the dealer right now, Bacon. Alright,
So we go back over to hit on a seventeen.

(37:10):
I'm hitting on seventeen and another addition of a horse
name or horse crap. Brady, next up here, fire in
the hole horse name or horse crap horse name. Yeah, yeah,
uh so we go. Uh this is competitive compressive. We

(37:31):
now go back over to LaVar Arrington holding onto a
slim one point lead. Here stam or horse crap here
on two pros and a cup of jo LaVar, horse stammer,
horse crape, glue baca crap. Are you sure glue Bacca
is yes, that's he's on fire. That's a mascot. Alright, alright,

(38:03):
so that is that that is insulting the jokes insulting,
Brady Quinn. Next up here, Brady, how about glue poc
shakur horse crap? Are you serious? Come on? Are you there? Brady?
At least one, don't you? LaVar? If LaVar, if you

(38:26):
get if you get this one correct, the game is over, LaVar.
Here we go to win a horse name or horse crap,
LaVar Arrington. Oh that's a horse name. No, yes, and
let me tell you how hold On, hold On gets
the brick. LaVar Rest is Sammy huff N his horse

(38:48):
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