May 26, 2025 • 41 mins
Jonas Knox and LaVar Arrington fill in for DP and the NFL continues to widen the gap with other sports, cementing the future of Holiday takeovers. Saquon Barkley calls out “soft” teams for voting to ban the tush-push. Plus, gout, cold beer and putt-putt golf on the FSR IR.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio. That's right, it is a Dan Patrick Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. He's LeVar Arrington. I'm Jonas
Knox in for Dan and the guys. You can normally
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every single day during the week, alongside Brady Quinn, who
(00:24):
is not with us, but it'll be Stix and I
taking you all the way up until noon Eastern time,
nine am Pacific here on Fox Sports Radio. And you know,
some people have said, are you guys you know what
is this like a Memorial Day takeover of the Dan
Patrick Show? I mean kind of, I guess. I mean
that's what our job is here, that's what our duty is.
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And apparently there's another takeover that's happening, and it's the
NFL continuing their takeover. And the takeover is holiday and
holiday action and holiday action when there happens to be
another league who's had that holiday all to themselves for
several several years now, so much so that Jason Kelsey
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was on his New Heights podcast talking about how he's
a fan of the NFL playing on Christmas and on
these major holidays, and had this to say.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Now, I'm also just a fan of playing on more
prime time times, like that's when I'm watching TV, and
I like you when football is on the television. So
let's keep putting good football games on television when everybody's watching.
I mean, I think it's just good for the game.
Let's keep taking over all the holidays or taking over Thanksgiving, Christmas. NBA,
you're never getting that back. I mean, it's it's that's
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the way it is.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
And he's one hundred percent correct, he ain't lying. They're
never getting it back. Yeah, Like once the NFL realized,
I'll wait, like this is doable. Yeah, we're gonna go
ahead and take that too. And then it, you know,
became one game and two games, and it's just this
is where we are. And I don't know what the
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plan would be for the NBA, but if you're the NFL.
And by the way, for those of you wondering, well,
it's just because you know, Christmas falls on certain days
of the week. No, it's over because Christmas is a
Thursday this year, a Friday of the year after a Saturday,
after that a Sunday a month like, it's going to
be a long ass time before anybody can make the
argument that well, depending on the day of the week
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it falls, it's not great for the schedule and the players.
The NFL is going to take this over and it's
going to be theirs moving forward.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I mean, what else is there to say? You know,
Kelsey nailed it, and I think you put a bow
on it if it's good football. And listen, I look
at it like this during the holiday season. The one
thing that you get yourself set for during Christmas time,
pre Christmas, post Christmas and New Year is college football.
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So if we're being honest, I don't think about the
NBA on Christmas. Maybe Christmas Day, you're right, but I
don't think about the NBA. I think about college football,
and I think about bowl games. And now that you
have to playoff, it now makes it even more intensified
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getting into that corridor of the year coming to an
end and rounding it out by having, you know, Christmas
and then New Year's. So if you're putting on a
quality football game from the National Football League and that's
on Christmas Day, Hell, if you put two three games
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on on Christmas Day that are quality matchups of the
National Football League. I can guarantee you guar Runtee that
you're going to have a tremendously large viewing audience of
those games that are taking place.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Totally agree. Yeah, And I look at it and I go,
if you're the NBA, I mean, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
You just keep trying to chuck along, you know, chuck
them up, like like Karl Anthony Townsend. Hope something goes.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
In it, just you know, like for example, you know
the the Christmas schedule for the NFL coming up this year, Cowboys, Commanders, Lions, Vikings, Broncos, Chiefs, Like,
all of those are compelling matters.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I watch all three everything else, every single one. There
would have to be a dope ass Bowl game on
and that game. I would even be switching in and
out to all the games depending on what the times
that are are playing.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
And I'll be honest with you, if you like, who
do you think the two worst teams in the NFL
are going to be this year? Like if you if
you had to right now, guess.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
The Saints, Yeah, and maybe the Browns.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
If the Saints and the Browns are playing on Christmas.
Are you watching that or an NBA game? I'm watching
the NFL game. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, just.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I don't know. It depends on Give me the matchup
of the NBA game, Give me the matchup of the
NBA game. Then give me what best case scenario.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I mean, look, I mean, if you wanted, you know,
best case scenario, you know, maybe it would be a
you know, a Thunder Celtics match. Or no, I mean,
Tatum is going to be out for majority of the years,
so let's say Thunder Pacers NBA Finals rematch. I'm watching
the rematch. I'm watching the Saints Browns.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I'm watching the Saints Browns. It's it sounds more interesting,
it sounds more intriguing. What what's at steak in December
for the NBA? For them NBA games?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Nothing?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
What's a steak? I mean, we're we're heading into June,
you know what I mean? Like, we're hitting into June
and basketball NBA season is still going. I don't see
there being enough importance to you. Don't. Again, I don't
believe the NBA has a player right now or players.
Outside of you being a avid NBA fan, avid sports fan,
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I do not believe the NBA has the type of
player that can drive the viewership the way that you've
had it in in decades past.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Let me, let me, let me paint this scenario for you,
all right, Just imagine the NBA to counter program does
that rematch of the NBA Finals and it is Pacers
and Thunder and the NFL. Just this is a pre example.
This is not the matchup, but this is the worst.
If you had to pick the two worst teams in
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the league, and the NFL rolls out Tyler Shuck versus
Dylan Gabriel and would do better numbers than the NBA
show to rematch the finals.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
But I think it classically comes back to the way
the popularity has been grown and the way the popularity
has been built. National Football League has always made it
a point to make the Shield the most important branding
that takes place. Not to mention, guys, we're helmets. So
you can look at a matchup, but you'll ultimately find
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the reasons why that is an intriguing matchup, even if
it's two trash teams. And it's also because the NFL
doesn't play nearly as many games as the NBA, so
it's almost these days, which is one of the best
things that the NFL could have ever done, is these days,
they've made every game matter more and they're continuing to
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figure out ways to reward the teams that take every
single game and every single week take it seriously like
you know, you're not sitting there like, ah, you know, well,
there's more games to be played, We will be fine.
It's almost taking on the same type of characteristics in
some ways in regard as college football. And that's the
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reason why we love college football so much historically speaking
of course, is that you couldn't lose. If you lost,
that meant that your season was in jeopardy after one loss.
Now you can lose one, maybe even two games and
get into the college football playoff and who knows what
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happens there. We had a two loss team win the
championship this year. Correct, Yeah, So at the end of
the day, I think that there's a level of intensity
and that the Shield does an excellent job of creating
this intensity and passion for consumption of the talent that's
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going out there on the days that they're playing. And
you're right, you only get so much time with the game,
Like people be going through and I'm one of them.
We be going through like like postseason, like fallout, like
like withdraw like. I love the fact that the players
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get an opportunity to play in the UFL and try
to make it into the NFL. It does not quench
my thirst for football NFL college. It does not. It
still feels like there is a departure from what life
should be like when football season is not here and
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to be to have been able to create that type
of buy in from a consumer, man, that's an ultimate product,
and it's very hard. It's very hard to fight your
way back from from that type of established fandom and
viewership and buy in to a particular league oficular sport.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So there's this old saying that nobody cares about your
fantasy football team, like it just in general when people
start complaining about their fantasy football team, it's what, like, man,
nobody cares. I don't want to hear about your fantasy team.
You know who does care about your fantasy team? The NFL,
Because I think fantasy football is as much to do
with this as anything, because it's basically gambling, and it
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was the I guess the show before the gambling show
started was fantasy football. So that was sort of your
appetizer to get you into what gambling could look like
in the NFL these games late in the season like that,
on a Christmas you could look at a Saints Browns matchup,
just for example. That's not going to be the matchup
because the NFL realizes those teams are terrible. That's why
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New Orleans and Cleveland don't have a primetime game. But
you could set that game up and there's going to
be an audience because somebody's going to have a player
from one of those teams on their fantasy team. Somebody's
going to have money invested in it. They've just done
more to make the sport presentable and interesting to people,
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even if they don't have a team. And we've talked
about this before you and I grew up. It was
like you had to have a team. Who's your team?
And now and you've made the point because of fantasy football,
it isn't about that your team is your fantasy team. Yeah, like, listen,
that's cool. You know so and so plays for this team,
like he's not on my team. That's what's important. And
I think the NFL recognize that, and the NFL has
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taken advantage of that, and I think fantasy football and
gambling is the biggest reason why they could just continued
to take over, because you could put any matchup you
wanted on and counter the NBA's matchup, whatever it is,
whatever interesting storyline the NBA things they have. More people
are gonna watch the NFL because the NFL has done
a better job of making their product and their league
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presentable and interesting to the consumer.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
And that's why they've seen the spike in the numbers.
And you can do about it. You don't have a
Michael Jordan that can combat a Walter Payton. You don't
have a Shaquille O'Neill that can combat a Ray Lewis.
You don't have a Kobe Bryant that can combat a
Peyton Manning. You don't. You don't have the star power.
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And that's no shade, I promise, that's no shade towards
towards the you know SGA's or the Anthony Atwards in
the league, the Jason Tatum's or whoever else you have
as the Jannis or the Joki's. It's no shade, I promise.
They just don't have the draw that a Shaquille O'Neill.
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Had you had an opportunity with Shaq, You had an
opportunity with Kobe, you had an opportunity with MJ and
Scottie Pippen and even the Mailman like by by Market,
you know, Magic Johnson. You had the opportunities to have
a captive audience and a large, tremendously passionate viewing eye
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audience when you develop those brands, but you're you're at
the risk of having strong branded players in the NBA
versus a strong brand the Shield that continues to prove
that even if Peyton Manning leaves, even if Tom Brady leaves,
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even if any of the best of the best players
that play in the National Football League retire and are done,
this league just continues to grow more and more and more,
and they're finding more ways to expand and they build
that off of the brand of the Shield. And that
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might have been the best asset created by the NFL
owners and and and what we've watched Paul Tagliabu start
and and and have watched Roger Goodell continue to grow
and build. It's just it's they have created something so
strong that they can in you to widen the gap
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between other sports, at least domestically.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
And also to your point on Goodell, I don't think
he gets enough credit because a lot of it's, you know,
it's the cool thing to do, booth the commissioner, Like,
you know, like the cool thing to do is booth
the commissioner. You know, when when Gary Bettman comes out
on the ice, they boom in the NHL, you know,
like Rob manforgets boomed and mean, he said some dumb
things before in the past, but that's the cool thing.
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Godell gets booed all that stuff. The one thing you
can be critical of maybe the way he handled punishments
and the NFL having too much say when it came
to off field crimes, and you know there was obviously
the mismanagement of the Ray Rice video and what happened afterwards.
All of that is fair criticism. He did not do
a great job. But if from a business standpoint, he's
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hit it out of the park. Like from a business standpoint,
there's a reason why the owners re elect him every
single time because he has had an eye to that
to your point, and he has recognize there's an ability
to grow the game and to cater to an audience
that if we do that, we will far surpass any
other quote unquote competition that's out there. And I think
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that's what's happened, and he deserves a lot of that
credit as well.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Well you hit it earlier, and I just end with this.
The mic drop is Goodell being able to be able
to incorporate and implement gambling and it being a legal
deal where you're able to do it. They're they're opening
up sports books in uh in the arenas, in the stadiums. Now,
(15:35):
that's probably the singular pad on the back that a
boy that Roger Goodell gets from these owners because it
has probably taken revenues up significantly h in terms of
what they're able to bring in and what they weren't
able to bring in. But it still was out there
and it's still existed Jonas. Now they're able to bring
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that into their doors and add that to their bottom line.
So yeah, I mean the things that they've done, the
things that Roger Goodell has done have been very strategically sound,
very intentional and purpose and placing, and it's working. You're
seeing it work. As you mentioned, You've created a larger
fan base based upon fantasy football people who aren't even
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serious football fans still get involved with fantasy football. So
and even if it's not an aggressive way, a passionate
way of getting involved with the game, you still have
people that are passive, passive fans that are still getting
involved with the game because fantasy football brings them together.
It's like a night of sorry or night of Monai
(16:40):
or whatever it may be, you know what I mean.
So it's super smart man.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And by the way, speaking of sorry, Lee to Lavas
our executive producer here, Lee, how many fantasy football leagues
are you in each year?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
At least four, but probably closer to five. Okay, Like
he's a degenerate, I mean. And by the way, he
still hasn't paid anybody first.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I have paid them on he said he paid it all.
He said he he holds the money. People. Yeah, that
I believe. I would never enter. I would never enter
a league where lead the Lap holds the money for
the prize winners. Just wouldn't happen because that's a bad mistake.
Right out the gate. You're already off to a bad.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Start because if lead the Laps holding the money, that
means at some point, prestige liquor in Burbank is holding
the money.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
That is very true, but it was just Layaway. That's
the bank that's holding the money.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Right by the end of just to win and nuts,
so I don't have to pay out. Yeah right, yeah,
So look just you know on behalf of degenerates everywhere. Uh,
you know, I just want to tell Roger can tell
in the NFL, you're welcome. I mean you're you're welcome here. Uh,
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It is the Dan Patrick Show. Here on Fox Sports Radio,
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Coming up in about twenty minutes from now, we're going
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a long weekend for the crew here. That'll be your
on Fox Sports Radio. But it is time to get
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back into the discussion that has run rough shot over
the NFL and sports media over the past several weeks,
and it was the tush push. Was the tush push
gonna be banned? Where they gonna get rid of the
toush push? Well, apparently somebody who doesn't even really play
a key component to the tush push, Saquon Barkley. He
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was on The Exciting Mike's podcast, which is just a
phenomenal name a Cooper de gene Red Blanken Ship, The
Exciting Whites. They Haven't a podcast called The Exciting Mike yeah,
they're called the exciting whites. Oh yeah, nice, they said
it on me.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
No reason to hate on them.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
They are exciting and they're white.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Well there you go.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
So Saquon Barkley, their teammate, was on their podcast and
had this to say about the potential of the tush
push possibly being banned before.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
It was overruled.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Ain't think of it.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
I think it's kind of I think it's soft to
be honest, like the teams that want to be in it,
because everybody.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Can do it.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
Like it's not like a play that like we only
can do. Everybody can do trademark. Yeah, and they're just
we happen to have one of the best and biggest
old lines and Jalen Hurts can squat six hundred pounds
like that's not our fault. Like Josh Allen is super big.
They're not successful as it. Lamar Jackson is one of
the best running quarterbacks at all time. They're not successful
with it. So it's not something that like everyone can't do,
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so like them trying to eliminate it. It's just like
I think that's kind of laying.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, soft asses trying to get rid of the tush push.
Think about that how far that.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I mean, he's not wrong. If you can't beat them,
join them. So basically, what you're saying is is that
that in that play, in that formation, the Philadelphia Eagles
are bigger, stronger, badder asses than you are everybody who
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against it. All you're basically saying is you're conceding the
fact that the Philadelphia Eagles are bigger, stronger, and better
at doing doing this play than any other team, and
we don't want to see them do it because it's
an unfair advantage to the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Can I ask you a question, if the Titans did
the tush push, is there even a discussion about it
getting banned? I think part of this is because it's Philly,
and because they're a bit obnoxious at times, and they're
a bit boisterous at times about how they do things.
And you got their head coach calling it first and
nine whenever they get the ball, because they're just going
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to get that final yard. If it was if it
was fire, it's great. But if it was and if
it was Tennessee or or another organization that wasn't as lowed,
I don't even think this is even being talked about.
I don't think people would care.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I think it is and I think it is tough
about just because of the nature of the play, but
the intensity of it. The different storylines that have resonated
from it are purely because it's Philadelphia. It's purely because
it's Nick Sirianni. It's it's purely because of Uh, this
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team being Uh. It fits the reputation of the city
of brotherly Love. So to me, I think it's a
perfect storm play for for the market, for the team,
what Philly represents. I mean, it's a tough, gritty Hart knows,
you know city. Anybody who knows about Philadelphia, they they
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know about the different boroughs and the different different areas
you know of a Philadelphia, the suburbs, the inner city parts.
They know about all of it, and everybody has a
certain way of how things are done. And most would
say most would say that it is a very very edgy,
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very gritty type of place. So this play is the
perfect fit for what the Philadelphia Eagles represent to their
fan base. So I don't know, man, I tend to
agree with Sakwon though, if you got such an issue
with it and you feel like it's not a stoppable play.
(23:23):
Why don't you adopt first and nine? Why don't you
adopt the ability to be able to run the push
push knowing that you can get one yard at least
one yard when you need it, whenever you need to
get it. Why wouldn't you adopt that first and nine?
That's what I mean. Sorry, Great's putting it on the table.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Say this is what we're doing. Dare you we dare
you to try and stop it. This is what we're doing.
It's first to nine, just so you know. Like but
and I watch it and I go this has really
become the biggest talking point point of the NFL off
season as far as on the field stuff goes. And
it was this and then it turned into this heated
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debate where you've got, you know, Jeffrey Lorie, you know,
doing a comparison to a teenage boy's.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Wet dream and all that.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Like Philly's just they're in a place right now where
they know they're the champs. They're gonna let everybody know
they're the champs. And I think next year they're gonna
go out of their way to make an example of
people with this play. And we brought up the possibility
of this Oh yeah, but we've brought up the possibility
of this on our show. That they open up the
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NFL season against the Cowboys, it would not surprise me.
The first chance they get first down, say it their
own twenty five thirty yard line, and they're just gonna
go toush push on the first play of the season,
just to stick it to the league and stick it
to everybody else's. Saquan pointed out, you know all the
lame asses out there who are soft enough to vote
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against it, Like, I think that's the way Philly's gonna
handle this, like they know, Oh look, we may be
on borrow time. Eventually, they're gonna want to try and
get this taken out of the game. While we've got it,
Let's go ahead and stick it to everybody for as
long as we can. Feels like something they would do.
That feels like an Eagles move.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I mean, why wouldn't you. And it don't look like
they're slowing up, Like look at what they they're doing
personnel wise, like they ain't slowing up. So don't think
that they're just going to go quietly into that good night.
They're not. You're gonna have to deal with us. You
know I mean them. You know, I'm Pittsburgh, dude, but
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I do love Pa and I do Rep Philly. But
you're gonna have to deal with the Eagles, man, And
that's just it is what it is. They have a
very very nice like this is what you got to say,
because you can't limit them to just being one play, right.
The Philadelphia Eagles just won the Super Bowl. People like
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quick reminder. They just won and they knocked off them boys,
And I ain't talking about Dallas. So when you look
at what they've been able to pool together, and it
hasn't come void of drama, hasn't come void of adversity.
But adding Saquon to this team was the single biggest
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move in all of the National Football League in my estimation,
having what they already had on the defensive side of
the ball and continuing to add as some of the
guys like Brandon Graham retiring some of these guys leaving.
They are so deep with talent that looking at them,
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it's almost crazy to think that most of these guys
are literally on rookie contracts. Man, and having the ability
to grow your team and figure out where to to
you know, mix and match or where to fill it
and plug in the gap. They're not just plugging in
the gap with serviceable players. They're plugging in the gap
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with guys that are coming out of college that are
perennial Pro Bowlers, perennial All Pros, just talented players. So
the storyline is much bigger than one play with Philadelphia.
It just becomes a funny story of funny conversation if
you ask me, because it's almost like you, you know,
the people who are having such an issue with this play.
(27:28):
It's almost like you have an issue with the Philadelphia
Eagles or somebody that's a part of the philip Maybe
it's Big Dom you got an issue with. I don't
know who it is, but you got an issue, and
you're trying to paint this picture like the Philadelphia Eagles
are only good because of one play. You could not
be further from the truth of reality in terms of
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what this team represents. It is a well built team.
It's turned into a well oil machine. Jonas so to say,
it's one one play, like, oh, you do away with
the touch push, You're doing away with the Philadelphia Eagles success. Yeah,
try it out one, Try out one. Now see how
that one ages, and by the I.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Don't think so do you think because you're a you're
a brander, all right, You're you're all about branding and
uh and you know, putting putting a stamp on things
to make it official and get it coverage and making
it grow. Yeah, we're talking about yeah stick cigy stick City,
Logger sticks city. Yeah, getting get a little logger here soon.
But it's coming. Like if you're Anthony.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Barr, okay and you're something for it.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Well, I mean he came up with it and he's
nowhere to be found. Like he's the inventor of the
tush push and this was back when you know, he
was with the Vikings in twenty eighteen. He's a linebacker.
He's not even on offense. It's his idea, it's his
brain child, and he gets none of the love, like,
none of the credit whatsoever. If I'm Anthony Barr, I'm pissed.
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This is my invention.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
What you going to get out of it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Can he get like anything?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
No, you can't. You can't. You can't make money off
of a play like I mean, it would it would
be cool if he got money every time it was
you know, if he was smart enough to maybe purchase
the rights to the name. I wouldn't be surprised that
the name is still available. Somebody might be looking it
(29:19):
up right now and parking it. It might still be available,
because you just wouldn't assume that you could, you know, monetize.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I mean, I preferred the brotherly shove personally, but you know,
the tush push. You know, people you know, to each
their own, that's what that's what they like.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
But what was the official original though? Do we know?
I don't know that he gave it. Did he give
it a name or did he just say this type
of play? You can't because I remember hearing the audio
of him saying it on the sideline, But did he
give it a play in particular? Like like, for instance,
why am I blinking on his name?
Speaker 6 (29:57):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (29:57):
The defensive end, big defensive and deacon Deacon? Why was
I playing on Deacon Jones? All right? Deacon Jones comes
up with the sack? Yeah, right, and he coined it.
He coined the phrase sack the sack, and they started
keeping it. As they said, Deacon Jones might have had
(30:19):
two three hundred sacks. Nobody knew about it because they
didn't keep that stack and they started keeping the stat
after he was talking about sacking the quarterback. So if
you did it in that way, I see. I don't
know if Deacon Jones was making money off of the
word sack, but imagine every single time they said the
word sack he got a residual from it. I mean,
(30:41):
that would be pretty dope. I don't know if that
exists here in this situation.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
He just watched Bruce Smith gams and get paid every
time every time Bruce made a play.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
There's a lot of them out here.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Man.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Sacks are what sacks are just as good as it's
like a rank, a number two ranking of a touchdown.
I would assume a sack is it's up there. It's
up there. I mean, you think about it. The most
prized defenders these days are guys that get sacks, maybe
even more so than interceptions. I would say, more so
(31:17):
than in the seventeen.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
If you just you could have, you'd be playing an
awful game if you got one sack, a game that
made your game, like you're going to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
That makes your game. You get one sick if you
can touch thirty one on a quarterback one time in
a game and they say sack, you've done well.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
That's a that's a brutal existence for an offensive lineman, though,
Like you shut a guy out for ninety nine percent
of the game, but he gave one time and because
of that he's going to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I mean, if you average one sack of game, that's
seventeen sacks, right, Seventeen eighteen games is seventeen seventeen seventeen sacks. Bro,
you get seventeen sacks and you have a ten year career,
you do that.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Man, I mean won every two games and you have
a ten year career, you're approaching hundred sacks. You got
a shot at being going to the Hall of Fame.
That's it's crazy, man, Like.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I mean, you're in the conversation.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
So listen to Anthony Barr. We're trying, welcome, trying to
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Speaker 3 (32:27):
Though.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
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So we are going to report any issues, injuries, ailments
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Radio videos on YouTube. After your sports week at happens.
So it's time to get the FSR IR report. All right,
who's got what? Who's got something?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yes for you?
Speaker 1 (33:58):
You got nothing? No, nothing happened. He didn't suffer any injuries,
no issues, no ailments from Uh.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
My toe is a little sore. I woke up. I
woke up and had like maybe a little you know,
I drank some some beers and I woke up in
my toe was a little little stiff, like the you know,
the gout, A little gout deal, but it wasn't it
wasn't serious because I got you know, I got the medicine.
I got ahold of my medicine. Pop popped a little medicine.
(34:28):
And it's like it's still a little stiff, but it's
not sore. I don't feel like I've been put on
I R I'm not limping around or anything like that.
So I just fell asleep. I woke up and I
couldn't move my toe, and I immediately knew that it
was the gout.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Who it was is that what happens when if you
have beer your toe.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
I mean it's a trigger for me. Alcohol is a
trigger for.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Me, and it goes to your taking.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I get it. I get the weirdest spots, Like I'll
get it in my toe. I'll get it like my
big toe too, just my big toe, no other to oh,
just my big toe. It'll yeah, man, But you're making
fun of me. I mean, you asked me to give
you my This hasn't placed me on ir. I'm just
telling you symptoms, you know what i mean. But I'll
get it in my ankle, I'll get it in my knee.
(35:15):
And know like every once in a while, I get
it in my elbow. It hit my elbow, but it
just hits like really like acute areas of like my joints.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
And it just picks different parts of the body like that.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Yeah. Yeah. Then I had some tequila. I had some
tequila and some some light light coronas, and you know,
I woke up. But how it got me was I
was sleep. You know, like if I'm awake and I
feel something, I just I just take one of those
you know, like it just it's a blocker. It like
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just knocks it out. Really quickly. But I was sleep
so I woke up and I went to go to
the and I felt it a little bit. I'm like,
oh no, that ain't any good. And I got to
go to the restroom, and sure enough, when I went
to put pressure on that bad boy, I almost fell
down on the ground. You know. So getting to that age,
you know it's.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Because you drink Corona light.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
That's the worst light beer.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Jesus, Lee, it was good, there was there goes that
sponsor opportunity.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
It give me Corona extra.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
But how do you know it's not the tequila?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
It could have been. It could have been both.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
I mean, how would you know, Lee, are you some
expert on drinking? Like, how would you know?
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Yeah, you can't even give away a Corona Like, nobody
drinks Corona let.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
That's the worst because you get the gout. That's right.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
That is not We do not want to be careful here.
We're not saying that Corona light gives anybody gout.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
I didn't say anything about anything. I'm just telling you
when I drink, I get I get those symptoms.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, if you've got a problem with what Lee had
to say, you can find them on x at Brady
underscore Quinn, have you got any issues with anything that
he just here on the show? What about you, Lee,
did you get slaughtered this weekend or what are you
waiting for later today to.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Make that happen. I had a good time.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
I met up with an old coworker of ours, and
he took me to his favorite local establishment where he's
friendly with the bartender, and he kept on bringing out
ice cold mugs steins.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Actually, nothing like that yesterday. I call it Lee. Lee
was fed.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
I was not fried.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
That was not sounded. You sounded so happily. I was absolutely.
I was happy to hear from you. I could hear
the waves in the background.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Really, it sounded like you were walking on the beach.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah, I'm away, I'm away somewhere.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Oh yeah, yeah damn.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
And I was watching the Indy five hundred and I
was just excited and we were kind of helping each
other up for today's show.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, it was a good time yesterday.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
But I did go out and drink after.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I talked to you, so that yeah, just just to word, Claire,
I did drink.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
I don't know what you guys think. I lost it,
just not at that, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
I drank some. Uh you drink so much. Uh.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I took like this, I ought to tell you everything
about my social life. So I took my son to
go to golf and stuff. And that's what it's called golf.
It's called golf and stuff. It's out here in southern California.
It's in Ventura in the eight oh five, out here
and where no, definitely not, definitely not, but it is not,
(38:24):
you know, not far from you know, a little bit
north of where the Cowboys have training camp in Oxnard
and so not. You know, yeah, Knoxnart. So I'm called Knoxnart.
And so I take my son there. And because he
watched like he's at the age now he's four, and
he's at the age now to where he retains information
and he associates things with other things, and so I
(38:48):
told him, yeah, we'll go to golf and stuff. Let's
let's go have some fun. Well, I'll take you to
golf and stuff. So he decides that he's going to
bring out his batting gloves for baseball and he's just
gonna wear one glove. So, because we were going golf
and he's seen golfers on TV, he decided he was
just gonna wear one glove to putt left hand the
(39:11):
right hand.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Is he lefty? No?
Speaker 1 (39:12):
No, no, but that's golfers. Yeah, yeah, he even so
he always has like this same Cubs hat that he wears,
but he wore a different hat. He wore the black
Travis Matthew hat that we got from our friends of
Travis Matthew at the Super Bowl week in New Orleans.
Because he knows that Travis Matthew makes golfer. Yeah, lead
(39:35):
that exact same hat. So he literally dressed the part
of a golfer and then proceeded to annihilate me. I
literally got smoked by a four year old. He's hitting
shots up ramps, through windmills, through everything, and then right
when you're thinking, man, he's really advanced. Eventually we get
(39:56):
to a point to where he started not feeling well,
had a little bit of a meltdown, and that it
was a problem trying to get him out of there.
But I've just realized now whatever he hears or sees,
he's going to repeat. So now I just have to
pretty much clean up everything in front of him. I've
got to got to clean it all up, got to it.
Can't even take a chance anymore because there's no telling
(40:16):
what he's going to repeat, whether it's an outfit, whether
it's anything at that age and at four years old.
But he was you know, he loved it and uh
you know he had a good time. You know, no booze,
no uh warrn't licking the litter or anything like that.
But you know it was a little bit of more
you know of you know, yeah, you know, I mean
maybe he was sneaking a couple. But you know, I
(40:37):
listen in Memorial Days today, so Lee got more time
to uh, you know, fill up a cooler and let
it fly here.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
It would be a pool day, absolutely, yeah, exactly a
cooler nothing like a good cooler beer opposed.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
To a sting about married lady that sits at the pool. Yeah,
there'd be some people said, Tana for sure, lady.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
I mean the weather that great out of here right now?
Is it?
Speaker 3 (41:01):
It's really not. It's not.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
It's like cloudy and gray in southern California. You're gonna
go sit by the POOLI uh
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Yeah, if weather permits that this the suddle peak out
at some point, okay, barbecues right there be a good
time
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And apparently there's another takeover that's happening, and it's the
NFL continuing their takeover. And the takeover is holiday and
holiday action and holiday action when there happens to be
another league who's had that holiday all to themselves for
several several years now, so much so that Jason Kelsey
(01:07):
was on his New Heights podcast talking about how he's
a fan of the NFL playing on Christmas and on
these major holidays, and had this to say.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Now, I'm also just a fan of playing on more
prime time times, like that's when I'm watching TV, and
I like you when football is on the television. So
let's keep putting good football games on television when everybody's watching.
I mean, I think it's just good for the game.
Let's keep taking over all the holidays or taking over Thanksgiving, Christmas. NBA,
you're never getting that back. I mean, it's it's that's
(01:37):
the way it is.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
And he's one hundred percent correct, he ain't lying. They're
never getting it back. Yeah, Like once the NFL realized,
I'll wait, like this is doable. Yeah, we're gonna go
ahead and take that too. And then it, you know,
became one game and two games, and it's just this
is where we are. And I don't know what the
(02:00):
plan would be for the NBA, but if you're the NFL.
And by the way, for those of you wondering, well,
it's just because you know, Christmas falls on certain days
of the week. No, it's over because Christmas is a
Thursday this year, a Friday of the year after a Saturday,
after that a Sunday a month like, it's going to
be a long ass time before anybody can make the
argument that well, depending on the day of the week
(02:21):
it falls, it's not great for the schedule and the players.
The NFL is going to take this over and it's
going to be theirs moving forward.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I mean, what else is there to say? You know,
Kelsey nailed it, and I think you put a bow
on it if it's good football. And listen, I look
at it like this during the holiday season. The one
thing that you get yourself set for during Christmas time,
pre Christmas, post Christmas and New Year is college football.
(02:55):
So if we're being honest, I don't think about the
NBA on Christmas. Maybe Christmas Day, you're right, but I
don't think about the NBA. I think about college football,
and I think about bowl games. And now that you
have to playoff, it now makes it even more intensified
(03:16):
getting into that corridor of the year coming to an
end and rounding it out by having, you know, Christmas
and then New Year's. So if you're putting on a
quality football game from the National Football League and that's
on Christmas Day, Hell, if you put two three games
(03:39):
on on Christmas Day that are quality matchups of the
National Football League. I can guarantee you guar Runtee that
you're going to have a tremendously large viewing audience of
those games that are taking place.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Totally agree. Yeah, And I look at it and I go,
if you're the NBA, I mean, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
You just keep trying to chuck along, you know, chuck
them up, like like Karl Anthony Townsend. Hope something goes.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
In it, just you know, like for example, you know
the the Christmas schedule for the NFL coming up this year, Cowboys, Commanders, Lions, Vikings, Broncos, Chiefs, Like,
all of those are compelling matters.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I watch all three everything else, every single one. There
would have to be a dope ass Bowl game on
and that game. I would even be switching in and
out to all the games depending on what the times
that are are playing.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
And I'll be honest with you, if you like, who
do you think the two worst teams in the NFL
are going to be this year? Like if you if
you had to right now, guess.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
The Saints, Yeah, and maybe the Browns.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
If the Saints and the Browns are playing on Christmas.
Are you watching that or an NBA game? I'm watching
the NFL game. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, just.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I don't know. It depends on Give me the matchup
of the NBA game, Give me the matchup of the
NBA game. Then give me what best case scenario.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I mean, look, I mean, if you wanted, you know,
best case scenario, you know, maybe it would be a
you know, a Thunder Celtics match. Or no, I mean,
Tatum is going to be out for majority of the years,
so let's say Thunder Pacers NBA Finals rematch. I'm watching
the rematch. I'm watching the Saints Browns.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I'm watching the Saints Browns. It's it sounds more interesting,
it sounds more intriguing. What what's at steak in December
for the NBA? For them NBA games?
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Nothing?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
What's a steak? I mean, we're we're heading into June,
you know what I mean? Like, we're hitting into June
and basketball NBA season is still going. I don't see
there being enough importance to you. Don't. Again, I don't
believe the NBA has a player right now or players.
Outside of you being a avid NBA fan, avid sports fan,
(06:18):
I do not believe the NBA has the type of
player that can drive the viewership the way that you've
had it in in decades past.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Let me, let me, let me paint this scenario for you,
all right, Just imagine the NBA to counter program does
that rematch of the NBA Finals and it is Pacers
and Thunder and the NFL. Just this is a pre example.
This is not the matchup, but this is the worst.
If you had to pick the two worst teams in
(06:51):
the league, and the NFL rolls out Tyler Shuck versus
Dylan Gabriel and would do better numbers than the NBA
show to rematch the finals.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
But I think it classically comes back to the way
the popularity has been grown and the way the popularity
has been built. National Football League has always made it
a point to make the Shield the most important branding
that takes place. Not to mention, guys, we're helmets. So
you can look at a matchup, but you'll ultimately find
(07:24):
the reasons why that is an intriguing matchup, even if
it's two trash teams. And it's also because the NFL
doesn't play nearly as many games as the NBA, so
it's almost these days, which is one of the best
things that the NFL could have ever done, is these days,
they've made every game matter more and they're continuing to
(07:48):
figure out ways to reward the teams that take every
single game and every single week take it seriously like
you know, you're not sitting there like, ah, you know, well,
there's more games to be played, We will be fine.
It's almost taking on the same type of characteristics in
some ways in regard as college football. And that's the
(08:10):
reason why we love college football so much historically speaking
of course, is that you couldn't lose. If you lost,
that meant that your season was in jeopardy after one loss.
Now you can lose one, maybe even two games and
get into the college football playoff and who knows what
(08:31):
happens there. We had a two loss team win the
championship this year. Correct, Yeah, So at the end of
the day, I think that there's a level of intensity
and that the Shield does an excellent job of creating
this intensity and passion for consumption of the talent that's
(08:53):
going out there on the days that they're playing. And
you're right, you only get so much time with the game,
Like people be going through and I'm one of them.
We be going through like like postseason, like fallout, like
like withdraw like. I love the fact that the players
(09:15):
get an opportunity to play in the UFL and try
to make it into the NFL. It does not quench
my thirst for football NFL college. It does not. It
still feels like there is a departure from what life
should be like when football season is not here and
(09:39):
to be to have been able to create that type
of buy in from a consumer, man, that's an ultimate product,
and it's very hard. It's very hard to fight your
way back from from that type of established fandom and
viewership and buy in to a particular league oficular sport.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So there's this old saying that nobody cares about your
fantasy football team, like it just in general when people
start complaining about their fantasy football team, it's what, like, man,
nobody cares. I don't want to hear about your fantasy team.
You know who does care about your fantasy team? The NFL,
Because I think fantasy football is as much to do
with this as anything, because it's basically gambling, and it
(10:22):
was the I guess the show before the gambling show
started was fantasy football. So that was sort of your
appetizer to get you into what gambling could look like
in the NFL these games late in the season like that,
on a Christmas you could look at a Saints Browns matchup,
just for example. That's not going to be the matchup
because the NFL realizes those teams are terrible. That's why
(10:45):
New Orleans and Cleveland don't have a primetime game. But
you could set that game up and there's going to
be an audience because somebody's going to have a player
from one of those teams on their fantasy team. Somebody's
going to have money invested in it. They've just done
more to make the sport presentable and interesting to people,
(11:06):
even if they don't have a team. And we've talked
about this before you and I grew up. It was
like you had to have a team. Who's your team?
And now and you've made the point because of fantasy football,
it isn't about that your team is your fantasy team. Yeah, like, listen,
that's cool. You know so and so plays for this team,
like he's not on my team. That's what's important. And
I think the NFL recognize that, and the NFL has
(11:28):
taken advantage of that, and I think fantasy football and
gambling is the biggest reason why they could just continued
to take over, because you could put any matchup you
wanted on and counter the NBA's matchup, whatever it is,
whatever interesting storyline the NBA things they have. More people
are gonna watch the NFL because the NFL has done
a better job of making their product and their league
(11:51):
presentable and interesting to the consumer.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
And that's why they've seen the spike in the numbers.
And you can do about it. You don't have a
Michael Jordan that can combat a Walter Payton. You don't
have a Shaquille O'Neill that can combat a Ray Lewis.
You don't have a Kobe Bryant that can combat a
Peyton Manning. You don't. You don't have the star power.
(12:17):
And that's no shade, I promise, that's no shade towards
towards the you know SGA's or the Anthony Atwards in
the league, the Jason Tatum's or whoever else you have
as the Jannis or the Joki's. It's no shade, I promise.
They just don't have the draw that a Shaquille O'Neill.
(12:38):
Had you had an opportunity with Shaq, You had an
opportunity with Kobe, you had an opportunity with MJ and
Scottie Pippen and even the Mailman like by by Market,
you know, Magic Johnson. You had the opportunities to have
a captive audience and a large, tremendously passionate viewing eye
(13:00):
audience when you develop those brands, but you're you're at
the risk of having strong branded players in the NBA
versus a strong brand the Shield that continues to prove
that even if Peyton Manning leaves, even if Tom Brady leaves,
(13:20):
even if any of the best of the best players
that play in the National Football League retire and are done,
this league just continues to grow more and more and more,
and they're finding more ways to expand and they build
that off of the brand of the Shield. And that
(13:41):
might have been the best asset created by the NFL
owners and and and what we've watched Paul Tagliabu start
and and and have watched Roger Goodell continue to grow
and build. It's just it's they have created something so
strong that they can in you to widen the gap
(14:02):
between other sports, at least domestically.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
And also to your point on Goodell, I don't think
he gets enough credit because a lot of it's, you know,
it's the cool thing to do, booth the commissioner, Like,
you know, like the cool thing to do is booth
the commissioner. You know, when when Gary Bettman comes out
on the ice, they boom in the NHL, you know,
like Rob manforgets boomed and mean, he said some dumb
things before in the past, but that's the cool thing.
(14:26):
Godell gets booed all that stuff. The one thing you
can be critical of maybe the way he handled punishments
and the NFL having too much say when it came
to off field crimes, and you know there was obviously
the mismanagement of the Ray Rice video and what happened afterwards.
All of that is fair criticism. He did not do
a great job. But if from a business standpoint, he's
(14:49):
hit it out of the park. Like from a business standpoint,
there's a reason why the owners re elect him every
single time because he has had an eye to that
to your point, and he has recognize there's an ability
to grow the game and to cater to an audience
that if we do that, we will far surpass any
other quote unquote competition that's out there. And I think
(15:11):
that's what's happened, and he deserves a lot of that
credit as well.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Well you hit it earlier, and I just end with this.
The mic drop is Goodell being able to be able
to incorporate and implement gambling and it being a legal
deal where you're able to do it. They're they're opening
up sports books in uh in the arenas, in the stadiums. Now,
(15:35):
that's probably the singular pad on the back that a
boy that Roger Goodell gets from these owners because it
has probably taken revenues up significantly h in terms of
what they're able to bring in and what they weren't
able to bring in. But it still was out there
and it's still existed Jonas. Now they're able to bring
(15:57):
that into their doors and add that to their bottom line.
So yeah, I mean the things that they've done, the
things that Roger Goodell has done have been very strategically sound,
very intentional and purpose and placing, and it's working. You're
seeing it work. As you mentioned, You've created a larger
fan base based upon fantasy football people who aren't even
(16:18):
serious football fans still get involved with fantasy football. So
and even if it's not an aggressive way, a passionate
way of getting involved with the game, you still have
people that are passive, passive fans that are still getting
involved with the game because fantasy football brings them together.
It's like a night of sorry or night of Monai
(16:40):
or whatever it may be, you know what I mean.
So it's super smart man.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And by the way, speaking of sorry, Lee to Lavas
our executive producer here, Lee, how many fantasy football leagues
are you in each year?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
At least four, but probably closer to five. Okay, Like
he's a degenerate, I mean. And by the way, he
still hasn't paid anybody first.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I have paid them on he said he paid it all.
He said he he holds the money. People. Yeah, that
I believe. I would never enter. I would never enter
a league where lead the Lap holds the money for
the prize winners. Just wouldn't happen because that's a bad mistake.
Right out the gate. You're already off to a bad.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Start because if lead the Laps holding the money, that
means at some point, prestige liquor in Burbank is holding
the money.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
That is very true, but it was just Layaway. That's
the bank that's holding the money.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Right by the end of just to win and nuts,
so I don't have to pay out. Yeah right, yeah,
So look just you know on behalf of degenerates everywhere. Uh,
you know, I just want to tell Roger can tell
in the NFL, you're welcome. I mean you're you're welcome here. Uh,
it is the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
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It is the Dan Patrick Show. Here on Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys.
Coming up in about twenty minutes from now, we're going
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FSRII Arts where we're reporting the issues, injuries, ailments from
a long weekend for the crew here. That'll be your
on Fox Sports Radio. But it is time to get
(19:03):
back into the discussion that has run rough shot over
the NFL and sports media over the past several weeks,
and it was the tush push. Was the tush push
gonna be banned? Where they gonna get rid of the
toush push? Well, apparently somebody who doesn't even really play
a key component to the tush push, Saquon Barkley. He
(19:23):
was on The Exciting Mike's podcast, which is just a
phenomenal name a Cooper de gene Red Blanken Ship, The
Exciting Whites. They Haven't a podcast called The Exciting Mike yeah,
they're called the exciting whites. Oh yeah, nice, they said
it on me.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
No reason to hate on them.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
They are exciting and they're white.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Well there you go.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
So Saquon Barkley, their teammate, was on their podcast and
had this to say about the potential of the tush
push possibly being banned before.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
It was overruled.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Ain't think of it.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
I think it's kind of I think it's soft to
be honest, like the teams that want to be in it,
because everybody.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Can do it.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
Like it's not like a play that like we only
can do. Everybody can do trademark. Yeah, and they're just
we happen to have one of the best and biggest
old lines and Jalen Hurts can squat six hundred pounds
like that's not our fault. Like Josh Allen is super big.
They're not successful as it. Lamar Jackson is one of
the best running quarterbacks at all time. They're not successful
with it. So it's not something that like everyone can't do,
(20:29):
so like them trying to eliminate it. It's just like
I think that's kind of laying.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, soft asses trying to get rid of the tush push.
Think about that how far that.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I mean, he's not wrong. If you can't beat them,
join them. So basically, what you're saying is is that
that in that play, in that formation, the Philadelphia Eagles
are bigger, stronger, badder asses than you are everybody who
(21:00):
against it. All you're basically saying is you're conceding the
fact that the Philadelphia Eagles are bigger, stronger, and better
at doing doing this play than any other team, and
we don't want to see them do it because it's
an unfair advantage to the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Can I ask you a question, if the Titans did
the tush push, is there even a discussion about it
getting banned? I think part of this is because it's Philly,
and because they're a bit obnoxious at times, and they're
a bit boisterous at times about how they do things.
And you got their head coach calling it first and
nine whenever they get the ball, because they're just going
(21:42):
to get that final yard. If it was if it
was fire, it's great. But if it was and if
it was Tennessee or or another organization that wasn't as lowed,
I don't even think this is even being talked about.
I don't think people would care.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I think it is and I think it is tough
about just because of the nature of the play, but
the intensity of it. The different storylines that have resonated
from it are purely because it's Philadelphia. It's purely because
it's Nick Sirianni. It's it's purely because of Uh, this
(22:18):
team being Uh. It fits the reputation of the city
of brotherly Love. So to me, I think it's a
perfect storm play for for the market, for the team,
what Philly represents. I mean, it's a tough, gritty Hart knows,
you know city. Anybody who knows about Philadelphia, they they
(22:42):
know about the different boroughs and the different different areas
you know of a Philadelphia, the suburbs, the inner city parts.
They know about all of it, and everybody has a
certain way of how things are done. And most would
say most would say that it is a very very edgy,
(23:03):
very gritty type of place. So this play is the
perfect fit for what the Philadelphia Eagles represent to their
fan base. So I don't know, man, I tend to
agree with Sakwon though, if you got such an issue
with it and you feel like it's not a stoppable play.
(23:23):
Why don't you adopt first and nine? Why don't you
adopt the ability to be able to run the push
push knowing that you can get one yard at least
one yard when you need it, whenever you need to
get it. Why wouldn't you adopt that first and nine?
That's what I mean. Sorry, Great's putting it on the table.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Say this is what we're doing. Dare you we dare
you to try and stop it. This is what we're doing.
It's first to nine, just so you know. Like but
and I watch it and I go this has really
become the biggest talking point point of the NFL off
season as far as on the field stuff goes. And
it was this and then it turned into this heated
(24:06):
debate where you've got, you know, Jeffrey Lorie, you know,
doing a comparison to a teenage boy's.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Wet dream and all that.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Like Philly's just they're in a place right now where
they know they're the champs. They're gonna let everybody know
they're the champs. And I think next year they're gonna
go out of their way to make an example of
people with this play. And we brought up the possibility
of this Oh yeah, but we've brought up the possibility
of this on our show. That they open up the
(24:35):
NFL season against the Cowboys, it would not surprise me.
The first chance they get first down, say it their
own twenty five thirty yard line, and they're just gonna
go toush push on the first play of the season,
just to stick it to the league and stick it
to everybody else's. Saquan pointed out, you know all the
lame asses out there who are soft enough to vote
(24:56):
against it, Like, I think that's the way Philly's gonna
handle this, like they know, Oh look, we may be
on borrow time. Eventually, they're gonna want to try and
get this taken out of the game. While we've got it,
Let's go ahead and stick it to everybody for as
long as we can. Feels like something they would do.
That feels like an Eagles move.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I mean, why wouldn't you. And it don't look like
they're slowing up, Like look at what they they're doing
personnel wise, like they ain't slowing up. So don't think
that they're just going to go quietly into that good night.
They're not. You're gonna have to deal with us. You
know I mean them. You know, I'm Pittsburgh, dude, but
(25:35):
I do love Pa and I do Rep Philly. But
you're gonna have to deal with the Eagles, man, And
that's just it is what it is. They have a
very very nice like this is what you got to say,
because you can't limit them to just being one play, right.
The Philadelphia Eagles just won the Super Bowl. People like
(25:55):
quick reminder. They just won and they knocked off them boys,
And I ain't talking about Dallas. So when you look
at what they've been able to pool together, and it
hasn't come void of drama, hasn't come void of adversity.
But adding Saquon to this team was the single biggest
(26:20):
move in all of the National Football League in my estimation,
having what they already had on the defensive side of
the ball and continuing to add as some of the
guys like Brandon Graham retiring some of these guys leaving.
They are so deep with talent that looking at them,
(26:43):
it's almost crazy to think that most of these guys
are literally on rookie contracts. Man, and having the ability
to grow your team and figure out where to to
you know, mix and match or where to fill it
and plug in the gap. They're not just plugging in
the gap with serviceable players. They're plugging in the gap
(27:06):
with guys that are coming out of college that are
perennial Pro Bowlers, perennial All Pros, just talented players. So
the storyline is much bigger than one play with Philadelphia.
It just becomes a funny story of funny conversation if
you ask me, because it's almost like you, you know,
the people who are having such an issue with this play.
(27:28):
It's almost like you have an issue with the Philadelphia
Eagles or somebody that's a part of the philip Maybe
it's Big Dom you got an issue with. I don't
know who it is, but you got an issue, and
you're trying to paint this picture like the Philadelphia Eagles
are only good because of one play. You could not
be further from the truth of reality in terms of
(27:48):
what this team represents. It is a well built team.
It's turned into a well oil machine. Jonas so to say,
it's one one play, like, oh, you do away with
the touch push, You're doing away with the Philadelphia Eagles success. Yeah,
try it out one, Try out one. Now see how
that one ages, and by the I.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Don't think so do you think because you're a you're
a brander, all right, You're you're all about branding and
uh and you know, putting putting a stamp on things
to make it official and get it coverage and making
it grow. Yeah, we're talking about yeah stick cigy stick City,
Logger sticks city. Yeah, getting get a little logger here soon.
But it's coming. Like if you're Anthony.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Barr, okay and you're something for it.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Well, I mean he came up with it and he's
nowhere to be found. Like he's the inventor of the
tush push and this was back when you know, he
was with the Vikings in twenty eighteen. He's a linebacker.
He's not even on offense. It's his idea, it's his
brain child, and he gets none of the love, like,
none of the credit whatsoever. If I'm Anthony Barr, I'm pissed.
(28:54):
This is my invention.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
What you going to get out of it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Can he get like anything?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
No, you can't. You can't. You can't make money off
of a play like I mean, it would it would
be cool if he got money every time it was
you know, if he was smart enough to maybe purchase
the rights to the name. I wouldn't be surprised that
the name is still available. Somebody might be looking it
(29:19):
up right now and parking it. It might still be available,
because you just wouldn't assume that you could, you know, monetize.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
I mean, I preferred the brotherly shove personally, but you know,
the tush push. You know, people you know, to each
their own, that's what that's what they like.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
But what was the official original though? Do we know?
I don't know that he gave it. Did he give
it a name or did he just say this type
of play? You can't because I remember hearing the audio
of him saying it on the sideline, But did he
give it a play in particular? Like like, for instance,
why am I blinking on his name?
Speaker 6 (29:57):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (29:57):
The defensive end, big defensive and deacon Deacon? Why was
I playing on Deacon Jones? All right? Deacon Jones comes
up with the sack? Yeah, right, and he coined it.
He coined the phrase sack the sack, and they started
keeping it. As they said, Deacon Jones might have had
(30:19):
two three hundred sacks. Nobody knew about it because they
didn't keep that stack and they started keeping the stat
after he was talking about sacking the quarterback. So if
you did it in that way, I see. I don't
know if Deacon Jones was making money off of the
word sack, but imagine every single time they said the
word sack he got a residual from it. I mean,
(30:41):
that would be pretty dope. I don't know if that
exists here in this situation.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
He just watched Bruce Smith gams and get paid every
time every time Bruce made a play.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
There's a lot of them out here.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Man.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Sacks are what sacks are just as good as it's
like a rank, a number two ranking of a touchdown.
I would assume a sack is it's up there. It's
up there. I mean, you think about it. The most
prized defenders these days are guys that get sacks, maybe
even more so than interceptions. I would say, more so
(31:17):
than in the seventeen.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
If you just you could have, you'd be playing an
awful game if you got one sack, a game that
made your game, like you're going to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
That makes your game. You get one sick if you
can touch thirty one on a quarterback one time in
a game and they say sack, you've done well.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
That's a that's a brutal existence for an offensive lineman, though,
Like you shut a guy out for ninety nine percent
of the game, but he gave one time and because
of that he's going to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
I mean, if you average one sack of game, that's
seventeen sacks, right, Seventeen eighteen games is seventeen seventeen seventeen sacks. Bro,
you get seventeen sacks and you have a ten year career,
you do that.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Man, I mean won every two games and you have
a ten year career, you're approaching hundred sacks. You got
a shot at being going to the Hall of Fame.
That's it's crazy, man, Like.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
I mean, you're in the conversation.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
So listen to Anthony Barr. We're trying, welcome, trying to
get you padps wet you. We tried, all right, but
the egles up taking it over. It is the Dan
Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas
Knox in for DP and the guys coming up next
to you.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Though.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
It's been a long weekend and the weekend continues here.
So we are going to report any issues, injuries, ailments
from the crew here. It's a little something we do
called the FSR IR and it's yours here on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
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(33:19):
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Radio videos on YouTube. After your sports week at happens.
So it's time to get the FSR IR report. All right,
who's got what? Who's got something?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yes for you?
Speaker 1 (33:58):
You got nothing? No, nothing happened. He didn't suffer any injuries,
no issues, no ailments from Uh.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
My toe is a little sore. I woke up. I
woke up and had like maybe a little you know,
I drank some some beers and I woke up in
my toe was a little little stiff, like the you know,
the gout, A little gout deal, but it wasn't it
wasn't serious because I got you know, I got the medicine.
I got ahold of my medicine. Pop popped a little medicine.
(34:28):
And it's like it's still a little stiff, but it's
not sore. I don't feel like I've been put on
I R I'm not limping around or anything like that.
So I just fell asleep. I woke up and I
couldn't move my toe, and I immediately knew that it
was the gout.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Who it was is that what happens when if you
have beer your toe.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
I mean it's a trigger for me. Alcohol is a
trigger for.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Me, and it goes to your taking.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
I get it. I get the weirdest spots, Like I'll
get it in my toe. I'll get it like my
big toe too, just my big toe, no other to oh,
just my big toe. It'll yeah, man, But you're making
fun of me. I mean, you asked me to give
you my This hasn't placed me on ir. I'm just
telling you symptoms, you know what i mean. But I'll
get it in my ankle, I'll get it in my knee.
(35:15):
And know like every once in a while, I get
it in my elbow. It hit my elbow, but it
just hits like really like acute areas of like my joints.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
And it just picks different parts of the body like that.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Yeah. Yeah. Then I had some tequila. I had some
tequila and some some light light coronas, and you know,
I woke up. But how it got me was I
was sleep. You know, like if I'm awake and I
feel something, I just I just take one of those
you know, like it just it's a blocker. It like
(35:48):
just knocks it out. Really quickly. But I was sleep
so I woke up and I went to go to
the and I felt it a little bit. I'm like,
oh no, that ain't any good. And I got to
go to the restroom, and sure enough, when I went
to put pressure on that bad boy, I almost fell
down on the ground. You know. So getting to that age,
you know it's.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Because you drink Corona light.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
That's the worst light beer.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Jesus, Lee, it was good, there was there goes that
sponsor opportunity.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
It give me Corona extra.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
But how do you know it's not the tequila?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
It could have been. It could have been both.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
I mean, how would you know, Lee, are you some
expert on drinking? Like, how would you know?
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Yeah, you can't even give away a Corona Like, nobody
drinks Corona let.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
That's the worst because you get the gout. That's right.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
That is not We do not want to be careful here.
We're not saying that Corona light gives anybody gout.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
I didn't say anything about anything. I'm just telling you
when I drink, I get I get those symptoms.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, if you've got a problem with what Lee had
to say, you can find them on x at Brady
underscore Quinn, have you got any issues with anything that
he just here on the show? What about you, Lee,
did you get slaughtered this weekend or what are you
waiting for later today to.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Make that happen. I had a good time.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
I met up with an old coworker of ours, and
he took me to his favorite local establishment where he's
friendly with the bartender, and he kept on bringing out
ice cold mugs steins.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Actually, nothing like that yesterday. I call it Lee. Lee
was fed.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
I was not fried.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
That was not sounded. You sounded so happily. I was absolutely.
I was happy to hear from you. I could hear
the waves in the background.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
Really, it sounded like you were walking on the beach.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah, I'm away, I'm away somewhere.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Oh yeah, yeah damn.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
And I was watching the Indy five hundred and I
was just excited and we were kind of helping each
other up for today's show.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Yeah, it was a good time yesterday.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
But I did go out and drink after.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I talked to you, so that yeah, just just to word, Claire,
I did drink.
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
I don't know what you guys think. I lost it,
just not at that, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
I drank some. Uh you drink so much. Uh.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I took like this, I ought to tell you everything
about my social life. So I took my son to
go to golf and stuff. And that's what it's called golf.
It's called golf and stuff. It's out here in southern California.
It's in Ventura in the eight oh five, out here
and where no, definitely not, definitely not, but it is not,
(38:24):
you know, not far from you know, a little bit
north of where the Cowboys have training camp in Oxnard
and so not. You know, yeah, Knoxnart. So I'm called Knoxnart.
And so I take my son there. And because he
watched like he's at the age now he's four, and
he's at the age now to where he retains information
and he associates things with other things, and so I
(38:48):
told him, yeah, we'll go to golf and stuff. Let's
let's go have some fun. Well, I'll take you to
golf and stuff. So he decides that he's going to
bring out his batting gloves for baseball and he's just
gonna wear one glove. So, because we were going golf
and he's seen golfers on TV, he decided he was
just gonna wear one glove to putt left hand the
(39:11):
right hand.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Is he lefty? No?
Speaker 1 (39:12):
No, no, but that's golfers. Yeah, yeah, he even so
he always has like this same Cubs hat that he wears,
but he wore a different hat. He wore the black
Travis Matthew hat that we got from our friends of
Travis Matthew at the Super Bowl week in New Orleans.
Because he knows that Travis Matthew makes golfer. Yeah, lead
(39:35):
that exact same hat. So he literally dressed the part
of a golfer and then proceeded to annihilate me. I
literally got smoked by a four year old. He's hitting
shots up ramps, through windmills, through everything, and then right
when you're thinking, man, he's really advanced. Eventually we get
(39:56):
to a point to where he started not feeling well,
had a little bit of a meltdown, and that it
was a problem trying to get him out of there.
But I've just realized now whatever he hears or sees,
he's going to repeat. So now I just have to
pretty much clean up everything in front of him. I've
got to got to clean it all up, got to it.
Can't even take a chance anymore because there's no telling
(40:16):
what he's going to repeat, whether it's an outfit, whether
it's anything at that age and at four years old.
But he was you know, he loved it and uh
you know he had a good time. You know, no booze,
no uh warrn't licking the litter or anything like that.
But you know it was a little bit of more
you know of you know, yeah, you know, I mean
maybe he was sneaking a couple. But you know, I
(40:37):
listen in Memorial Days today, so Lee got more time
to uh, you know, fill up a cooler and let
it fly here.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
It would be a pool day, absolutely, yeah, exactly a
cooler nothing like a good cooler beer opposed.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
To a sting about married lady that sits at the pool. Yeah,
there'd be some people said, Tana for sure, lady.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
I mean the weather that great out of here right now?
Is it?
Speaker 3 (41:01):
It's really not. It's not.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
It's like cloudy and gray in southern California. You're gonna
go sit by the POOLI uh
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Yeah, if weather permits that this the suddle peak out
at some point, okay, barbecues right there be a good
time
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