December 1, 2022 • 40 mins
Kyler Murray claps back at his former teammate Patrick Peterson who said the Cardinals QB only cares about himself. Which division is better between the NFC East and AFC East? The guys compare calf sizes. Aaron Donald will miss the first game of his career because of injury and a preview of TNF between the Bills and Patriots on Over/Under.
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part of it. You are, You're absolutely correct. H They
can't bring the mask mandate back soon enough, you know,
if they were up to me. But um, yeah, there's
all that going on. So apparently Kyler Murray and Patrick
Peterson aren't really friends. You know, they used to play
together in Arizona. It's been a really down year for
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Kyler Murray and it's been a really good year for
Patrick Peterson in the Minnesota Vikings And um, apparently Patrick
Peterson had some things to say about his former teammate
and court back Kyler Murray. This was the Vikings defensive
back on the All Things Covered podcast. Take a listen.
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You think Cliff Kingsbury maybe the skategoat in regards to
their struggles, ain't. Maybe he will, he will be, he
will be, uh huh, he will be. Any crazy thing
about it. A guy who hired him will still have
a job. Yeah, it sounds about right. Initially I was
thinking that they probably would stick with him because of
the contractual agreement he has. But now just seeing how
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bad they've been and then at the at the season, man, yeah,
and he's signed. He signed that attention last March. Verbally,
now vocally, Kyler Murray is talking about and I don't
like how he's doing that. I think he should keep
some things privately. But it tells me he doesn't care
about his head coach and he's putting everything on the
head coach. Basically Sameingler Murray. Don't care about nobody but
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Kyler Murray. That's just a matter of the fact. Well yeah,
well I I can't I can't argue that I don't
know him personally. You played with him for a few years,
so I gotta take your word for it. So do
y'all know Patrick Peterson. Have you ever met him around yet? No?
I called a gamer that he sat down and talk
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for a while. He's um a good guy. That was
to me a little bit out of character for him
from my experience being around him. And and and and
I'm glad you you did that, because that's a great
preface for him to say that Kyler Murray must be bad.
It must be his selfishness must be so pronounced. It
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must be so bad that someone of the caliber of
pat Patrick Peterson would actually say that in an interview.
It must be bad if you know that, man, if
you know Patrick Peterson and you know the type of
person that he is and and what he represents, it
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must be bad. Because he didn't even hesitate. It wasn't
even a hesitation. This is what it is. It's a
matter of fact, like moving on, like, let's keep going.
He only cares about himself. That's about it, and that's
what what you're dealing with. Keep moving on. That's pretty
damning if you and listen. I don't. I'm speaking for
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me because i know who he is, and I've been
around him, and I've experienced and witnessed you know his character.
But I'm I'm I'm saying this isn't the first time
we've heard a legendary player from that organization, or at
least someone connected to a legendary player from the organization,
having something that is is less than flattering to say
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about how Kyler Murray is. Well, I guess what I
got right here? What you got? Oh got? Kyler Murray's
response from Kyler Murray this isn't true. You on some
weird bleep. You got my number. If you really felt
like this is a As a big bro or mentor,
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you're supposed to call me and tell me, not drag me,
so your podcast can grow. How's that sitting your stomach there,
LaVar little Kyler Murray going back at Patrick Peterson, saw
the response, um like, can we also say this it does?
This isn't the first time that Patrick Peterson has spoken
out against the Arizona Cardinals. He does sound a little
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bit bitter still about how that's that's such a that's
such a that is such the oldest way of describing
athletes that leave their former to look, I'm not saying
that Steve Kyle, it does feel like that. It's not
the first time in the past couple of years he's
brought up his issues with Steve Kim in the Arizona
Cardinals and the way his time ended, and now he's
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hearing up Kyler Murray. I'm not saying that it's not true,
but there is an element of that that's also happening here.
Can I just throw this out there? Do you know who?
Most NFL players look out for themselves? So thank you
for the revelation, pet Pete, but unfortunately, like that's how
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the league works, trust me, Like I've I've experienced some
stuff where it's like there's not many men out there
who are putting their body and their livelihood on the line.
The guy next to him, it's in st college. This
isn't like it's just a different world. Like if it's
good for them and best for their career, they'll do it.
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If not, they're not doing it. That's about of players
in the NFL. There there's some other guys out there
who was still fight through stuff, uh despite that, or
you find those unique examples. But that's the truth. So
he might be saying something about Kyler Murray that makes headlines,
but the reality is what when when when do other
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players take it? I mean there's very seldom to take
a discount to stay with their own team, Like usually
it couldn't get more elsewhere, or if it was close enough,
maybe they'll stay with her their hometown team. But for
the most part, it's about where you can get paid
the most and take your services. Like that's what it is.
And so in regards to you know, how this year
is is all worked out at first off. One of
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the things they said to begin with is what Kingsbury
is gonna get fired and Time is gonna stay? Well?
Who did Time high in the first place? How would
that work? The only thing that's gonna prevent Time Kingsbury
from being fired is gonna be the Bidwells and their
ability or or inability to be able to pay off
all those contracts. I mean, that's what it comes down to. It.
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It's a money no different than we talked about with
the Las Vegas Raiders and Mark Davis and him being
an owner who inherited the team and that's their business.
He's not David Teppery and make his money in finance,
and so he's got other businesses that are cash flowing.
You know, Mark Davis has to make money from that scene.
The bid Walls are making money, majority of it from
that team. So it's hard then to fire a coach
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and have to pay off all these contracts when you
might still be paying off some previous coaches. So I
just I look at it and say, one, I think
if they move on from Kingsbury, they're probably moving on
from Time. It would be one sweepe move if that happens.
And if not. I mean, hopefully cooler heads prevailed. They
can reevaluate after the season what they want to do.
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But clearly there's a bit of a disconnect between Cliff
and Kyler and where Kyler is at and some of
it like, he's a tremendous talent. He succeeded at every
single level he's ever played. When you say about football, baseball, whatever,
he's been a first round pick number one over on football,
when a top ten, top five, six, whenever he wasn't
base how many guys can say that. I mean Bo Jackson,
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Dion Sanders, that that's about it. So he is a
ridiculous talented athlete. But with that, I think there comes
a level of like frustration with what's around him and
how things are working out, because it's hard to win
in the NFL, even as talented as Kyler is and
his talent as that roster can be, it's hard to
win games. And I think you're starting to see them
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really hit the first spell of adversity because if you
go back to the past three years, like they've always
taken the next steps like every single year, you can
see them take the next step improvement every year, and
so this is the first time they're taking a step back,
and I think it's gonna be really interesting to test
Michael Bidwell and how he handles this adversity, because he
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could either listen to the noise, overreact to make a
bunch of sweeping changes, or you could try to stay
the courts in, continue to keep building on this roster
and see if you can get into a better spot
where Kyler grows, matures, he's a better, better leader, teammate
and all that regard to And you're not hearing this stuff,
but I do hate the fact that, like you know,
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Kyler has to go out and defend himself to a
former teammate, like if if Pat's thinking that way or
he's hearing stuff like reach out to him. You played
with him, do you guys? Thing Remember we were talking
about this because this is one of the stories of
the off season. One of the reports that was out
there was that Michael Bidwell, the owner of the Cardinals,
was really other that the NFC title game last year
were two divisional opponents. It was the Niners and the Rams,
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and obviously we saw what happened in the playoff game. Well,
if he was impatient and frustrated, and then you know, ultimately,
you know, guys got contract extensions. But I think maybe
a lot of people were surprised by and Steve Kim
and Cliff Kingsbury and then Kyler Murray got his deal done,
but there was still kind of a public back and
forth on that, and then there was the the amount
of prep time story that came out if he was
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showing signs of maybe some impatients or frustrations openly with
their performance last year. This just feels like it's almost
a foregone conclusion. There's going to be a change there.
And I wonder if if you make sweeping changes, if
you were to hit up a guy like Sean Payton
and said, hey, we'll even give you some personnel control,
like if Steve Kime's gone, We'll give you some personnel control.
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We do like this quarterback. Do you think that would
be Is this a destination for Sean Payton that he
would look at and go, I would be interested in
take in that job and working with this guy in
Kyler Murray. Man, it would be fun as hell to
see him be able to work with Kyler, work with
DeAndre Hopkins. Some of the other pieces I know that
much with the amount of speed they got there. You know, Um,
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obviously Rondale Moore is there as well, Robbie Anderson is there.
Who knows if they can keep them. But like, there's
there's a lot of a lot of talent to doing
Hollywood brown there. Like the Hollywood Browns are too like
they're loaded, they are loaded, they are loaded. Uh, there's
a ton of potential there. And and I think we
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would all agree that it's a hit scratcher that they're
not doing better than what they are. I mean, I
think that's the kind of what it comes down to.
I agree, you know that that's a conversation that could
have been hashed out behind closed doors. I also will
say in in in situations where people are asked questions
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versus offering up information, I feel like that's that's two
different things. You know, when somebody asked me a question,
if you want my truth, I'm gonna give you my truth.
And and I'll give you the truth if it doesn't
come across as you know, you know what it was
supposed to be. I don't, you know, I don't know
how to you know, do it any other way? Now?
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I could all he could have obviously said, well, you know,
I have no comment on it or whatever. But whatever
it is that he was doing on on his show
and having that conversation, it's a conversation whether he did
it the right way or whether he could have done
it differently. This is a conversation that's taking place. So
I while we're sitting here listening or I'm listening and
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and and we're talking about this, I start thinking about
who else is also within the organization. You know, Adrian
Wilson is in this organization, and and Adrian Wilson is
close with Patrick Peterson. So it's interesting. You'll you'll you
you can connect the dots, like for me, I'm connecting
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the dots as too. If these can say if Patrick
Peterson is saying that these conversations are taking place, and
they're taking place internally, and they're taking place externally. So
so guys that are in in the organization are talking
about how Cayler Murray is. I think that that that
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that it can be a foregone conclusion by the way
that response was, and it's being talked about in other
other other forms and with with other people. I think
that that's what's taking place, and that's damaging. I think
that's damaging too to the organization and its opportunity to
be successful, because that could be poisoning the well. Who
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knows what DeAndre Hopkins is thinking, or what Hollywood Brown
is thinking, or what James Connor is thinking, or with
anybody else the offensive linement, so on, so forth, that
just could be damaging and and what they call poisoning
the well, so to speak. If if that is really
the narrative that has been created about Kyler Murray, how
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do you move forward with that? That to me would
be the biggest question culturally speaking, how do you move
forward with that? I mean, if they've got issues and
questions about it now, I mean, why did you give
him the contract extension? Like that's like it feels like
as an organization, they might have made a mistake. To
your point, like, if if this is something that you're
concerned with and you feel like there are people that
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are rubbed the wrong way by his personality or his demeanor,
it almost feels like it's a little too late. And
and now you know he's already gotten paid, and and
also he doesn't have to the study clause was taken
out of the contract, So now I mean he can
go back. He has a three sport athlete. By the way,
I hate to correct you, Brady, Uh, it's football, baseball,
and call of duty. So he has a three sport athlete.
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I think we want to be clear on that. I
know it's real. Sports is real. I'm not I'm not
well versed in these sports realms. So my apologies. I
I did not get a scholarship. So the professional a
ton of money, a ton of money millions off of
call of duty about blowing people's heads all dike that
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Sports Radio and the I Heart. We are going to
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we get you said for an a f C East
battle coming up later on tonight between the Bills and
the Patriots. By the way, surprisingly the Bills looking for
their first divisional win. I don't know if anybody knows
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that still winless in the division, only team in the
division without a win. Which which division do you guys
think is better? The a f C East or the
NFC East? You had to say right now, I would
say the A I would say the NFC. I mean today, okay,
you have Philly Dallas. Although you said Dallas isn't making
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the playoffs, I said, I mean, I'm I'm gonna have
to eat Crow. I'm still not listen, I'm still not sold.
But definitely they've definitely played the last two games I mean,
I don't look like I know what I'm talking about.
I'll say that they did a good job. I think
the a f C East has three teams that are
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getting the playoffs. I mean four if you were to
start the playoffs today would get in. But they obviously
have to still play each other starting Thursday night tonight. Um,
but I think three wind up getting an I don't
know that you'll get three from the NFC East. I
think it looks like i've started today, there would be
four and today from the NFC East, right, But there's
also like much like the an FC East, there's gonna
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be a lot of divisional games played down the stretch.
And I think if you're looking at like Washington, New York,
it feels like Washington has been great. They we've been
on a good run. I'm not sure they'll be able
to maintain it. And the Giants, it feels like similar
went on a great run. Now they're just trying to
hold it together, all of them except except Philly. That's
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what really well the past couple of the past couple
of weeks. But they didn't play very well the prior
weeks tip leading up to and I mean granted that
they they have been better since Dak has been back,
Like there you go, right, So if they can continue
to be good with Dak being back and they can
stay healthy, yeah, I mean, uh, you're definitely going to
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get to now. The way Washington is playing, they're looking
like they're surging. New York looks like they've they've kind
of hit a wall, and and and what it is
that they got going on. But I could easily see
three teams from the NFC East being in in the
playoffs as well. Yeah, so I think it depends on
what happens in the NFC West, right, Like if Seattle
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holds on, San Francisco is there, if if they are
getting two out of there, you're probably getting one out
of the North. You're getting just the winner out of
the NFC South. It probably it comes down to what
the NFC West looks like. Really Seattle and San Francisco
for that matter, but more Seattle. I got a bad
feeling about Seattle. I think that I think that Raiders
loss was it was a really bad loss because now
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now they find themselves almost on the outside looking in,
and they've got, you know, the Niners still coming up.
They've got the Chiefs coming up. You know, who knows
that the Rams could end up, you know, potentially playing
spoiler in the final week of the season against them.
Like I feel like Seattle my be running out of
steam here. They've lost two in a row. It seems
like we might be at least they get the Rams twice.
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But the Panthers are playing hard, even though you know
they got what they got going on, and you mentioned
the Niners and then you got the Chiefs and the
Jets are are looking pretty good with Mike. Why think
about this though you've got I mean obviously that it
was a closer game than I think some people thought,
even though um it was a backdoor cover for for
most of people with the Giants because Cowboys were up
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two scores, they gave up a touchdown with what nine
seconds left for it was when you say most people,
what are you talking like? Is there anybody that you
know in particular that might have had you screwed on
that thing and not me? Oh that had the Dallas
Cowboys minus nine? Well, I know you were a part
of that, and my picks I also had Dallas covering.
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So that was a bit frustrating to watch the Cowboys
defense just take out Michael Parsons and laid out literally
laid out seven was seven seconds left or something that
was that. Turkey went down great after that, but they
lose to the Cowboys on the road. That's tough, tough game,
tough opponent. They lost to Detroit the week before, kind
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of got blown out. That's why I mean. And and
really they lost what's to Seattle before the by So
they've lost three in the last four and now they
play that runup divisional games and played Washington, Philly Washington.
So I think that's a team that like either look,
Washington's gonna survive or New York's gonna survive next couple
of weeks and how they look and then it'll be
just it'll depend upon how Philly plays them in a
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Week E team, but also Week four team when they
play here in a couple of weeks. Okay, I want
to ask you, is this because I've been thinking about
this the past few weeks. I think the Patriots are underrated,
and I think it goes to show you. Here's why
I say that. You remember the discussion we were having
about that Monday night game they had against the Bears,
and the Bailey's Appy Mac Jone and stuff, and it
was an awful loss. They got blown out at home.
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It was terrible, and it was just sort of everybody
had a bad taste in their mouth when it came
to the Patriots in Belichick and all that. Like, first
of all, the Bears haven't won a game since then.
But as far as the Patriots go, up until last week,
they were five and one in their last six and
it's almost like we forget about all those other games.
They blew out the Browns were on the road. We
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they shut out the Lions, who are a much better
team than people realize. They blew out Indianapolis, they wanted
the Jets and beat the Jets twice in a matter
of like two three weeks. And I'm looking at it
going you could argue they might they should have possibly
won that game against Minnesota. I mean, they were in
that game. Mac Jones played really well. The Hunter Henry
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Non touchdown was was a big conversation coming out of
that game. It almost feels like the Patriots have been
a little bit underrated over the past month and a
half of two months, and we just focus on something.
Maybe the primetime game they look bad in and not
all the other games that they've looked really good in.
Do you buy into that? Do you think do you
think they are what they are? Are they a playoff
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team or they just is this a team that everybody
is so sick of seeing because they dominated for twenty
plus years and now we just sort of dismissed them
and say, well, without Brady, they're nothing. I think they
planned a tough division this year, but I don't know
that they're They probably the least talented roster in that division.
I don't know that I'm co signing this theory, So okay,
I'm just saying it and then a little bit underrated alright,
just throwing it out there. It is. I mean, look,
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I guess we'll find out down the stretch. They play
Buffalo tonight and then they've got a string of games
to go back to back on the road, Arizona and
Las Vegas, and those are teams that if they are
a playoff team, they should beat Arizona and Las Vegas. Yeah, well, listen,
I'm not going to bet on either of those games.
So that's not my world. I don't I don't venture
into that world here. That's the way this works there
at the bottom of their division. Well, so it's Washington,
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and I don't think Washington is that bad. I don't
think we're overrating them either though. Okay, well, I mean
there's some people out there that are saying, you know,
the little Danny is, you know, lit a spark on
that team, and all of a sudden, their potential release
of the you know, the statue and everything. It's it's um,
it's all up, you know what I mean. They didn't
turned up the heat on everybody, you know what, They're
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making a dope up in there. It was true to form.
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That's that's definitely not the Yeah, alright, I have the
smallest calves of us all. That is an absolute lie.
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Absolutely can I Can I tell you guys a story. Sure.
My freshman football coach literally like made fun of me
for not having any calves, So after after the end
of every workout, I'd have to do like single leg caffras. Yeah,
and I remember think of myself like this is never
gonna help me become great at anything. Now, how much
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weight gonna help you? They just might have not agree.
I did a ton of calf work. I had to shooes,
the waffle bottom shoes, every thing. It's like plants, perfect
body or whatever. It was Rember them TV show. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's I think it was like True life and they
would like follow these people and yeah this guy got
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cafine plants. I thought about it, Fred Smoots It um
look like spend most of my time wheelchairing around in life.
That's how little my leg Oh my god, that's offensive.
Is one of the does he not know your family background?
I mean, he doesn't kind of funny, but she's kind
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of funny. I didn't take it personal, you know. That's uh,
that is brutal. Yeah, it's all right, yeah, Eric Davis.
Eric Davis took a couple of shots up my legs.
My legs are so skinny that it's they're easy to
pick on. That's how little my legs are. I mean,
and then I'm I'm overweight up then I'm overweight up top.
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So that doesn't that's not like a great matchup. You know,
when your belly falls onto your little legs, it's just
not good man. Yeah, my buddy said I I don't
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closer look at Thursday Night football coming up in about
twelve minutes from now. But how about this first time
due to in jury that Aaron Donald is going to
miss a game this weekend against the Seahawks. Ever, well,
he's missed one because of a contract hold out at
the start of the year, and then they rested him
(28:11):
in week seventeen after they had already clinched everything a
few years ago. But this is the first time due
to injury that he will have missed a game in
his entire NFL career. So it's similar to in Dominican Sue,
who also only missed a couple of games because of
a suspension because apparently you're not allowed to like stomp
on people. I mean, who knew, but these guys rarefied
(28:33):
air never missing games due to injury, and now all
of a sudden, Aaron Donald's out in a disaster season
for the l A. Rams. So it's a shame there.
It's a shame. He has been so durable and and
at arguably the toughest position or one of the toughest
positions to do that. It's just it's crazy that it
happened in a in a season that you know hasn't
(28:54):
gone the way they had hoped. And he's like that
final like if you had any hope for the ramp
Like Don Old is just such a difference maker on
that defense if he's not playing, like, oh, it's not
looking good. Yeah, it does look like And by the way,
the Rams are are really concerned that they're not going
to be able to sell out. So there's a game
(29:16):
coming up against the Broncos on Christmas, and so the
Rams are concerned that they're not going to uh not
going to have a full capacity there. Oil Oil Wrestling well,
you know what they're doing. It's actually a cool deal.
I I know Jonas is gonna make fun of it.
What they're doing. Well, they're doing. According to Sports Business Journal,
they put together a program for fans to donate their
(29:38):
tickets to charity in order to be entering to win prizes.
So like like, that's it's cool. They're doing good with it. Yeah,
all right, now you think it's you think it's all
about charity, or you think it's well, we come on,
why don't we always have to judge people when it's
when we're doing something in a charitable way. I'm just
saying you think maybe they're concerned they won't be able
to get those tickets sold and have actual bodies there.
(30:01):
I mean, look, do we have to take it to
the value proposition of what it is that you're speaking
of right now? Jonah, just just sell the tickets to
Bang Bros. They'll fill the steps trying to get the
naming rights to UH. I'll tell you what, Look at
(30:23):
their subscriptions. Okay, they got a nice little audience to
UH to market advertising checking out password, especially as chats worthy.
I mean, there are a lot of people that would
not be very judgmental of that move e actually might
(30:44):
be very complementary. All Look, I used to know some
teammates who used to happen to always party in Vegas
in the off season, and they would go that like
porn Convention weekend. I forget that they actually in a
couple of months. Yeah, they If you know when it's
coming up, you've been Vegas right here. But here's why
(31:06):
I know because a buddy of mine was was supposed
to come to my induction dinner and he was like, yeah,
but I want you to make it up to me
for me not making it to your induction dinner and
you come hang out with me when I go there
for the awards. Is he get inducted into that? No,
but I guess he's got really really a really nice
table at the event he does. Hey, why why are
(31:31):
why are giftbacks vibrating there? There's such things as a
bad table not there? COVID's over, Why does my mask
have a ball in the front? Why does the table
lining go all the way down to the floor? Man,
(31:52):
this class class personified on this show. So, um, we
hope you get better, Aaron Donald. And that that concludes
our coverage of the l A. Rams said, Hey, listen,
you know he's that that community. He's a fan. You know,
that's nothing wrong with being a fan. You know, there's
(32:13):
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it's time for this time to put your money where
your mouth is. You know you're lying life. It's over
(34:09):
under fine to lead the lab. Where do we stand
on the overall season standings because there's been a lot
of exhibition weeks, which I don't think count towards anything,
but just want to see what the total numbers are here. Well,
last week made it very interesting. Brady was off last Thursday,
but we had three games to preview, and uh, let
me just rattle off a few of these because they
(34:29):
were Did you have someone picked for me? Yeah, you
had me picking for your break? Oh remember and if
you remember last time I picked for you, I did
pretty well for you there, buddy did. So let's let's
start with this one though. Last week we looked at
passing in rushing yards for Josh Allen. It was at
three thirty one and a half. Now get this, you guys.
(34:51):
He had two three passing yards and seventy eight rushing yards.
You know what that adds up to three thirty one.
Oh jesus. They were right on the nut, right on
the nose, and LaVar had the under on that one.
So LaVar took the first round. So we were rewarding
LaVar because he's being negative. He's being negative about loved
this game so far. Alright, let's do it. Let's just
(35:11):
going Giants Cowboys forty five and a half. Dallas won
that game twenty LaVar had the over on that one.
He took round two. Yeah, I love this sax for
Michael Parsons was only at a half. LaVar hit the
over on that one, so did Jonas. Yeah really not
hold on? Did you really not pick him to have
a sack? Yes, he did. He was injured. He was injured.
(35:35):
Remember going into that game, it was you really pick him?
All right? Now? I know what happened here? What I'm
not even gonna I don't care. What do you mean?
I was slightly despite Lee tanking things for me. Yeah, yeah,
but that was that was the only bad bet that
(35:56):
he made for you, right Lee? Yeah, that's correct. Hey,
let's let's do this. By the way, how about this?
Who always says this when we do over and unders?
Well sits it in count? It's just an exhibition? Right yeah?
Who speaks one? That's that's such a weak move. Who
would say that? Who would say that? Leave? What what
other picks did you make for Brady? Brady also took
(36:18):
the under on the yards for Justin Jefferson at eighty
six and a half. You actually had a hundred. That
was a bad pick by Brady by the way, Brady,
you really tanked in you unbelievable man. That was all
the weight's messed up. But you did hit this one. Brady,
hit the under on the Bills Lions game for road
Actually sorry road teams at one one and a half
(36:41):
there was you hit the under on that one. Bills
were the only thing. I just I now know where
your alliance is now. It's sad I sucked last week too, Sorry, Brady,
I tried so. So who won this week's tank? Vary? Good?
Good week? You closed the guts? Say it again again?
Say it again? La? Yeah, well that needs By the way,
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All right, So what what do we got this weekly? Yeah?
(37:31):
What do we got? Take for me this? Happily you
can extend your lead here, Brady, because you're still in
the lead. We got bills at Patriots point total in
this game forty three and a half. Oh, I was
not prepared for that. I thought you're gonna go to
spread first. I will take the under. I will take
(37:58):
the over as well. Yeah, over, bills are minus three
and a half. By the way, passing in rushing yards
for Josh Allen three sixteen and a half, I want
to take the over a half. I feel like under
take the over all right, you guys passing touch LaVar
(38:23):
take LaVar, tak over passing touchdowns for Mac Jones one
and a half. Oh, I'm gonna say the under, take
the under. There's a blueprint here pound the other. I'm
(38:47):
gonna take no, no, no, I'm gonna take that over.
I'm gonna take that over. I'm gonna take that over.
I took that over on the points, so I'm gonna
take over alright, fellas. The game is at Gillette Stadium.
Number of commercials we have for the Gillette Intimate Pubic
Hair Trimmer out a half under, I'm gonna take under.
I'll take the oder as well too. You would use
(39:09):
it on the under, that's for sure, nobody. Yeah, there
you go, Lee, it's the way to do it. Lastly,
you guys, this week is the O b J Tour.
Number of mentions we have for O b J during
the broadcast at a half? Of course, friends with von
(39:29):
Miller over over? Yeah, this is over and if they
don't mention it by the fourth quarter, it'll fall asleep
on a plane again and then try and get his
name in the news there so they'll figure out a
way to work him in out a half or one
and a half at a half. Yeah, I'm gonna they're
gonna mentioned him at least once half to yeah, yeah,
(39:51):
they got to over all right, there it is. There's
our our So how close to to queue? Am I? Now?
With that four and one? Four and one and them
you dumping him this this peat this past week out
close somewhere you're one behind Brady here? Ye? Where's bonus? Jonas?
And Jonas is just two behind you? A second? Hold
(40:12):
on a second. I love this game. What are you
talk talking about? Lee? This is amazing? Okay, you have
the Lee? What are we talking about here? I'm in
second place? Aren't you are? In second place? Yeah? I
got fuzzy math here, I got fuzzy math. Still in
third place? How this is why this is I'm only
one behind you. How am I in third place? This
(40:35):
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part of it. You are, You're absolutely correct. H They
can't bring the mask mandate back soon enough, you know,
if they were up to me. But um, yeah, there's
all that going on. So apparently Kyler Murray and Patrick
Peterson aren't really friends. You know, they used to play
together in Arizona. It's been a really down year for
(01:47):
Kyler Murray and it's been a really good year for
Patrick Peterson in the Minnesota Vikings And um, apparently Patrick
Peterson had some things to say about his former teammate
and court back Kyler Murray. This was the Vikings defensive
back on the All Things Covered podcast. Take a listen.
(02:07):
You think Cliff Kingsbury maybe the skategoat in regards to
their struggles, ain't. Maybe he will, he will be, he
will be, uh huh, he will be. Any crazy thing
about it. A guy who hired him will still have
a job. Yeah, it sounds about right. Initially I was
thinking that they probably would stick with him because of
the contractual agreement he has. But now just seeing how
(02:30):
bad they've been and then at the at the season, man, yeah,
and he's signed. He signed that attention last March. Verbally,
now vocally, Kyler Murray is talking about and I don't
like how he's doing that. I think he should keep
some things privately. But it tells me he doesn't care
about his head coach and he's putting everything on the
head coach. Basically Sameingler Murray. Don't care about nobody but
(02:52):
Kyler Murray. That's just a matter of the fact. Well yeah,
well I I can't I can't argue that I don't
know him personally. You played with him for a few years,
so I gotta take your word for it. So do
y'all know Patrick Peterson. Have you ever met him around yet? No?
I called a gamer that he sat down and talk
(03:13):
for a while. He's um a good guy. That was
to me a little bit out of character for him
from my experience being around him. And and and and
I'm glad you you did that, because that's a great
preface for him to say that Kyler Murray must be bad.
It must be his selfishness must be so pronounced. It
(03:37):
must be so bad that someone of the caliber of
pat Patrick Peterson would actually say that in an interview.
It must be bad if you know that, man, if
you know Patrick Peterson and you know the type of
person that he is and and what he represents, it
(03:58):
must be bad. Because he didn't even hesitate. It wasn't
even a hesitation. This is what it is. It's a
matter of fact, like moving on, like, let's keep going.
He only cares about himself. That's about it, and that's
what what you're dealing with. Keep moving on. That's pretty
damning if you and listen. I don't. I'm speaking for
(04:19):
me because i know who he is, and I've been
around him, and I've experienced and witnessed you know his character.
But I'm I'm I'm saying this isn't the first time
we've heard a legendary player from that organization, or at
least someone connected to a legendary player from the organization,
having something that is is less than flattering to say
(04:41):
about how Kyler Murray is. Well, I guess what I
got right here? What you got? Oh got? Kyler Murray's
response from Kyler Murray this isn't true. You on some
weird bleep. You got my number. If you really felt
like this is a As a big bro or mentor,
(05:01):
you're supposed to call me and tell me, not drag me,
so your podcast can grow. How's that sitting your stomach there,
LaVar little Kyler Murray going back at Patrick Peterson, saw
the response, um like, can we also say this it does?
This isn't the first time that Patrick Peterson has spoken
out against the Arizona Cardinals. He does sound a little
(05:22):
bit bitter still about how that's that's such a that's
such a that is such the oldest way of describing
athletes that leave their former to look, I'm not saying
that Steve Kyle, it does feel like that. It's not
the first time in the past couple of years he's
brought up his issues with Steve Kim in the Arizona
Cardinals and the way his time ended, and now he's
(05:44):
hearing up Kyler Murray. I'm not saying that it's not true,
but there is an element of that that's also happening here.
Can I just throw this out there? Do you know who?
Most NFL players look out for themselves? So thank you
for the revelation, pet Pete, but unfortunately, like that's how
(06:05):
the league works, trust me, Like I've I've experienced some
stuff where it's like there's not many men out there
who are putting their body and their livelihood on the line.
The guy next to him, it's in st college. This
isn't like it's just a different world. Like if it's
good for them and best for their career, they'll do it.
(06:28):
If not, they're not doing it. That's about of players
in the NFL. There there's some other guys out there
who was still fight through stuff, uh despite that, or
you find those unique examples. But that's the truth. So
he might be saying something about Kyler Murray that makes headlines,
but the reality is what when when when do other
(06:51):
players take it? I mean there's very seldom to take
a discount to stay with their own team, Like usually
it couldn't get more elsewhere, or if it was close enough,
maybe they'll stay with her their hometown team. But for
the most part, it's about where you can get paid
the most and take your services. Like that's what it is.
And so in regards to you know, how this year
is is all worked out at first off. One of
(07:14):
the things they said to begin with is what Kingsbury
is gonna get fired and Time is gonna stay? Well?
Who did Time high in the first place? How would
that work? The only thing that's gonna prevent Time Kingsbury
from being fired is gonna be the Bidwells and their
ability or or inability to be able to pay off
all those contracts. I mean, that's what it comes down to. It.
(07:36):
It's a money no different than we talked about with
the Las Vegas Raiders and Mark Davis and him being
an owner who inherited the team and that's their business.
He's not David Teppery and make his money in finance,
and so he's got other businesses that are cash flowing.
You know, Mark Davis has to make money from that scene.
The bid Walls are making money, majority of it from
that team. So it's hard then to fire a coach
(07:56):
and have to pay off all these contracts when you
might still be paying off some previous coaches. So I
just I look at it and say, one, I think
if they move on from Kingsbury, they're probably moving on
from Time. It would be one sweepe move if that happens.
And if not. I mean, hopefully cooler heads prevailed. They
can reevaluate after the season what they want to do.
(08:17):
But clearly there's a bit of a disconnect between Cliff
and Kyler and where Kyler is at and some of
it like, he's a tremendous talent. He succeeded at every
single level he's ever played. When you say about football, baseball, whatever,
he's been a first round pick number one over on football,
when a top ten, top five, six, whenever he wasn't
base how many guys can say that. I mean Bo Jackson,
(08:39):
Dion Sanders, that that's about it. So he is a
ridiculous talented athlete. But with that, I think there comes
a level of like frustration with what's around him and
how things are working out, because it's hard to win
in the NFL, even as talented as Kyler is and
his talent as that roster can be, it's hard to
win games. And I think you're starting to see them
(09:01):
really hit the first spell of adversity because if you
go back to the past three years, like they've always
taken the next steps like every single year, you can
see them take the next step improvement every year, and
so this is the first time they're taking a step back,
and I think it's gonna be really interesting to test
Michael Bidwell and how he handles this adversity, because he
(09:22):
could either listen to the noise, overreact to make a
bunch of sweeping changes, or you could try to stay
the courts in, continue to keep building on this roster
and see if you can get into a better spot
where Kyler grows, matures, he's a better, better leader, teammate
and all that regard to And you're not hearing this stuff,
but I do hate the fact that, like you know,
(09:43):
Kyler has to go out and defend himself to a
former teammate, like if if Pat's thinking that way or
he's hearing stuff like reach out to him. You played
with him, do you guys? Thing Remember we were talking
about this because this is one of the stories of
the off season. One of the reports that was out
there was that Michael Bidwell, the owner of the Cardinals,
was really other that the NFC title game last year
were two divisional opponents. It was the Niners and the Rams,
(10:06):
and obviously we saw what happened in the playoff game. Well,
if he was impatient and frustrated, and then you know, ultimately,
you know, guys got contract extensions. But I think maybe
a lot of people were surprised by and Steve Kim
and Cliff Kingsbury and then Kyler Murray got his deal done,
but there was still kind of a public back and
forth on that, and then there was the the amount
of prep time story that came out if he was
(10:29):
showing signs of maybe some impatients or frustrations openly with
their performance last year. This just feels like it's almost
a foregone conclusion. There's going to be a change there.
And I wonder if if you make sweeping changes, if
you were to hit up a guy like Sean Payton
and said, hey, we'll even give you some personnel control,
like if Steve Kime's gone, We'll give you some personnel control.
(10:52):
We do like this quarterback. Do you think that would
be Is this a destination for Sean Payton that he
would look at and go, I would be interested in
take in that job and working with this guy in
Kyler Murray. Man, it would be fun as hell to
see him be able to work with Kyler, work with
DeAndre Hopkins. Some of the other pieces I know that
much with the amount of speed they got there. You know, Um,
(11:13):
obviously Rondale Moore is there as well, Robbie Anderson is there.
Who knows if they can keep them. But like, there's
there's a lot of a lot of talent to doing
Hollywood brown there. Like the Hollywood Browns are too like
they're loaded, they are loaded, they are loaded. Uh, there's
a ton of potential there. And and I think we
(11:34):
would all agree that it's a hit scratcher that they're
not doing better than what they are. I mean, I
think that's the kind of what it comes down to.
I agree, you know that that's a conversation that could
have been hashed out behind closed doors. I also will
say in in in situations where people are asked questions
(11:54):
versus offering up information, I feel like that's that's two
different things. You know, when somebody asked me a question,
if you want my truth, I'm gonna give you my truth.
And and I'll give you the truth if it doesn't
come across as you know, you know what it was
supposed to be. I don't, you know, I don't know
how to you know, do it any other way? Now?
(12:15):
I could all he could have obviously said, well, you know,
I have no comment on it or whatever. But whatever
it is that he was doing on on his show
and having that conversation, it's a conversation whether he did
it the right way or whether he could have done
it differently. This is a conversation that's taking place. So
I while we're sitting here listening or I'm listening and
(12:36):
and and we're talking about this, I start thinking about
who else is also within the organization. You know, Adrian
Wilson is in this organization, and and Adrian Wilson is
close with Patrick Peterson. So it's interesting. You'll you'll you
you can connect the dots, like for me, I'm connecting
(12:57):
the dots as too. If these can say if Patrick
Peterson is saying that these conversations are taking place, and
they're taking place internally, and they're taking place externally. So
so guys that are in in the organization are talking
about how Cayler Murray is. I think that that that
(13:18):
that it can be a foregone conclusion by the way
that response was, and it's being talked about in other
other other forms and with with other people. I think
that that's what's taking place, and that's damaging. I think
that's damaging too to the organization and its opportunity to
be successful, because that could be poisoning the well. Who
(13:42):
knows what DeAndre Hopkins is thinking, or what Hollywood Brown
is thinking, or what James Connor is thinking, or with
anybody else the offensive linement, so on, so forth, that
just could be damaging and and what they call poisoning
the well, so to speak. If if that is really
the narrative that has been created about Kyler Murray, how
(14:03):
do you move forward with that? That to me would
be the biggest question culturally speaking, how do you move
forward with that? I mean, if they've got issues and
questions about it now, I mean, why did you give
him the contract extension? Like that's like it feels like
as an organization, they might have made a mistake. To
your point, like, if if this is something that you're
concerned with and you feel like there are people that
(14:25):
are rubbed the wrong way by his personality or his demeanor,
it almost feels like it's a little too late. And
and now you know he's already gotten paid, and and
also he doesn't have to the study clause was taken
out of the contract, So now I mean he can
go back. He has a three sport athlete. By the way,
I hate to correct you, Brady, Uh, it's football, baseball,
and call of duty. So he has a three sport athlete.
(14:46):
I think we want to be clear on that. I
know it's real. Sports is real. I'm not I'm not
well versed in these sports realms. So my apologies. I
I did not get a scholarship. So the professional a
ton of money, a ton of money millions off of
call of duty about blowing people's heads all dike that
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battle coming up later on tonight between the Bills and
the Patriots. By the way, surprisingly the Bills looking for
their first divisional win. I don't know if anybody knows
(16:15):
that still winless in the division, only team in the
division without a win. Which which division do you guys
think is better? The a f C East or the
NFC East? You had to say right now, I would
say the A I would say the NFC. I mean today, okay,
you have Philly Dallas. Although you said Dallas isn't making
(16:36):
the playoffs, I said, I mean, I'm I'm gonna have
to eat Crow. I'm still not listen, I'm still not sold.
But definitely they've definitely played the last two games I mean,
I don't look like I know what I'm talking about.
I'll say that they did a good job. I think
the a f C East has three teams that are
(16:56):
getting the playoffs. I mean four if you were to
start the playoffs today would get in. But they obviously
have to still play each other starting Thursday night tonight. Um,
but I think three wind up getting an I don't
know that you'll get three from the NFC East. I
think it looks like i've started today, there would be
four and today from the NFC East, right, But there's
also like much like the an FC East, there's gonna
(17:18):
be a lot of divisional games played down the stretch.
And I think if you're looking at like Washington, New York,
it feels like Washington has been great. They we've been
on a good run. I'm not sure they'll be able
to maintain it. And the Giants, it feels like similar
went on a great run. Now they're just trying to
hold it together, all of them except except Philly. That's
(17:40):
what really well the past couple of the past couple
of weeks. But they didn't play very well the prior
weeks tip leading up to and I mean granted that
they they have been better since Dak has been back,
Like there you go, right, So if they can continue
to be good with Dak being back and they can
stay healthy, yeah, I mean, uh, you're definitely going to
(18:01):
get to now. The way Washington is playing, they're looking
like they're surging. New York looks like they've they've kind
of hit a wall, and and and what it is
that they got going on. But I could easily see
three teams from the NFC East being in in the
playoffs as well. Yeah, so I think it depends on
what happens in the NFC West, right, Like if Seattle
(18:21):
holds on, San Francisco is there, if if they are
getting two out of there, you're probably getting one out
of the North. You're getting just the winner out of
the NFC South. It probably it comes down to what
the NFC West looks like. Really Seattle and San Francisco
for that matter, but more Seattle. I got a bad
feeling about Seattle. I think that I think that Raiders
loss was it was a really bad loss because now
(18:44):
now they find themselves almost on the outside looking in,
and they've got, you know, the Niners still coming up.
They've got the Chiefs coming up. You know, who knows
that the Rams could end up, you know, potentially playing
spoiler in the final week of the season against them.
Like I feel like Seattle my be running out of
steam here. They've lost two in a row. It seems
like we might be at least they get the Rams twice.
(19:07):
But the Panthers are playing hard, even though you know
they got what they got going on, and you mentioned
the Niners and then you got the Chiefs and the
Jets are are looking pretty good with Mike. Why think
about this though you've got I mean obviously that it
was a closer game than I think some people thought,
even though um it was a backdoor cover for for
most of people with the Giants because Cowboys were up
(19:27):
two scores, they gave up a touchdown with what nine
seconds left for it was when you say most people,
what are you talking like? Is there anybody that you
know in particular that might have had you screwed on
that thing and not me? Oh that had the Dallas
Cowboys minus nine? Well, I know you were a part
of that, and my picks I also had Dallas covering.
(19:49):
So that was a bit frustrating to watch the Cowboys
defense just take out Michael Parsons and laid out literally
laid out seven was seven seconds left or something that
was that. Turkey went down great after that, but they
lose to the Cowboys on the road. That's tough, tough game,
tough opponent. They lost to Detroit the week before, kind
(20:10):
of got blown out. That's why I mean. And and
really they lost what's to Seattle before the by So
they've lost three in the last four and now they
play that runup divisional games and played Washington, Philly Washington.
So I think that's a team that like either look,
Washington's gonna survive or New York's gonna survive next couple
of weeks and how they look and then it'll be
just it'll depend upon how Philly plays them in a
(20:31):
Week E team, but also Week four team when they
play here in a couple of weeks. Okay, I want
to ask you, is this because I've been thinking about
this the past few weeks. I think the Patriots are underrated,
and I think it goes to show you. Here's why
I say that. You remember the discussion we were having
about that Monday night game they had against the Bears,
and the Bailey's Appy Mac Jone and stuff, and it
was an awful loss. They got blown out at home.
(20:53):
It was terrible, and it was just sort of everybody
had a bad taste in their mouth when it came
to the Patriots in Belichick and all that. Like, first
of all, the Bears haven't won a game since then.
But as far as the Patriots go, up until last week,
they were five and one in their last six and
it's almost like we forget about all those other games.
They blew out the Browns were on the road. We
(21:15):
they shut out the Lions, who are a much better
team than people realize. They blew out Indianapolis, they wanted
the Jets and beat the Jets twice in a matter
of like two three weeks. And I'm looking at it
going you could argue they might they should have possibly
won that game against Minnesota. I mean, they were in
that game. Mac Jones played really well. The Hunter Henry
(21:36):
Non touchdown was was a big conversation coming out of
that game. It almost feels like the Patriots have been
a little bit underrated over the past month and a
half of two months, and we just focus on something.
Maybe the primetime game they look bad in and not
all the other games that they've looked really good in.
Do you buy into that? Do you think do you
think they are what they are? Are they a playoff
(21:56):
team or they just is this a team that everybody
is so sick of seeing because they dominated for twenty
plus years and now we just sort of dismissed them
and say, well, without Brady, they're nothing. I think they
planned a tough division this year, but I don't know
that they're They probably the least talented roster in that division.
I don't know that I'm co signing this theory, So okay,
I'm just saying it and then a little bit underrated alright,
just throwing it out there. It is. I mean, look,
(22:18):
I guess we'll find out down the stretch. They play
Buffalo tonight and then they've got a string of games
to go back to back on the road, Arizona and
Las Vegas, and those are teams that if they are
a playoff team, they should beat Arizona and Las Vegas. Yeah, well, listen,
I'm not going to bet on either of those games.
So that's not my world. I don't I don't venture
into that world here. That's the way this works there
at the bottom of their division. Well, so it's Washington,
(22:42):
and I don't think Washington is that bad. I don't
think we're overrating them either though. Okay, well, I mean
there's some people out there that are saying, you know,
the little Danny is, you know, lit a spark on
that team, and all of a sudden, their potential release
of the you know, the statue and everything. It's it's um,
it's all up, you know what I mean. They didn't
turned up the heat on everybody, you know what, They're
(23:02):
making a dope up in there. It was true to form.
It is two pros and a cup of Joe here
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You all have calves for days speak for them, not me.
That's that's definitely not the Yeah, alright, I have the
smallest calves of us all. That is an absolute lie.
(25:30):
Absolutely can I Can I tell you guys a story. Sure.
My freshman football coach literally like made fun of me
for not having any calves, So after after the end
of every workout, I'd have to do like single leg caffras. Yeah,
and I remember think of myself like this is never
gonna help me become great at anything. Now, how much
(25:51):
weight gonna help you? They just might have not agree.
I did a ton of calf work. I had to shooes,
the waffle bottom shoes, every thing. It's like plants, perfect
body or whatever. It was Rember them TV show. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's I think it was like True life and they
would like follow these people and yeah this guy got
(26:13):
cafine plants. I thought about it, Fred Smoots It um
look like spend most of my time wheelchairing around in life.
That's how little my leg Oh my god, that's offensive.
Is one of the does he not know your family background?
I mean, he doesn't kind of funny, but she's kind
(26:34):
of funny. I didn't take it personal, you know. That's uh,
that is brutal. Yeah, it's all right, yeah, Eric Davis.
Eric Davis took a couple of shots up my legs.
My legs are so skinny that it's they're easy to
pick on. That's how little my legs are. I mean,
and then I'm I'm overweight up then I'm overweight up top.
(26:57):
So that doesn't that's not like a great matchup. You know,
when your belly falls onto your little legs, it's just
not good man. Yeah, my buddy said I I don't
have legs. I'd get away sticks. I heard that, Um
flamingo with bad tattoos. Yeah it is is Bernou. Oh
(27:29):
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we're gonna have some over unders as we take a
closer look at Thursday Night football coming up in about
twelve minutes from now. But how about this first time
due to in jury that Aaron Donald is going to
miss a game this weekend against the Seahawks. Ever, well,
he's missed one because of a contract hold out at
the start of the year, and then they rested him
(28:11):
in week seventeen after they had already clinched everything a
few years ago. But this is the first time due
to injury that he will have missed a game in
his entire NFL career. So it's similar to in Dominican Sue,
who also only missed a couple of games because of
a suspension because apparently you're not allowed to like stomp
on people. I mean, who knew, but these guys rarefied
(28:33):
air never missing games due to injury, and now all
of a sudden, Aaron Donald's out in a disaster season
for the l A. Rams. So it's a shame there.
It's a shame. He has been so durable and and
at arguably the toughest position or one of the toughest
positions to do that. It's just it's crazy that it
happened in a in a season that you know hasn't
(28:54):
gone the way they had hoped. And he's like that
final like if you had any hope for the ramp
Like Don Old is just such a difference maker on
that defense if he's not playing, like, oh, it's not
looking good. Yeah, it does look like And by the way,
the Rams are are really concerned that they're not going
to be able to sell out. So there's a game
(29:16):
coming up against the Broncos on Christmas, and so the
Rams are concerned that they're not going to uh not
going to have a full capacity there. Oil Oil Wrestling well,
you know what they're doing. It's actually a cool deal.
I I know Jonas is gonna make fun of it.
What they're doing. Well, they're doing. According to Sports Business Journal,
they put together a program for fans to donate their
(29:38):
tickets to charity in order to be entering to win prizes.
So like like, that's it's cool. They're doing good with it. Yeah,
all right, now you think it's you think it's all
about charity, or you think it's well, we come on,
why don't we always have to judge people when it's
when we're doing something in a charitable way. I'm just
saying you think maybe they're concerned they won't be able
to get those tickets sold and have actual bodies there.
(30:01):
I mean, look, do we have to take it to
the value proposition of what it is that you're speaking
of right now? Jonah, just just sell the tickets to
Bang Bros. They'll fill the steps trying to get the
naming rights to UH. I'll tell you what, Look at
(30:23):
their subscriptions. Okay, they got a nice little audience to
UH to market advertising checking out password, especially as chats worthy.
I mean, there are a lot of people that would
not be very judgmental of that move e actually might
(30:44):
be very complementary. All Look, I used to know some
teammates who used to happen to always party in Vegas
in the off season, and they would go that like
porn Convention weekend. I forget that they actually in a
couple of months. Yeah, they If you know when it's
coming up, you've been Vegas right here. But here's why
(31:06):
I know because a buddy of mine was was supposed
to come to my induction dinner and he was like, yeah,
but I want you to make it up to me
for me not making it to your induction dinner and
you come hang out with me when I go there
for the awards. Is he get inducted into that? No,
but I guess he's got really really a really nice
table at the event he does. Hey, why why are
(31:31):
why are giftbacks vibrating there? There's such things as a
bad table not there? COVID's over, Why does my mask
have a ball in the front? Why does the table
lining go all the way down to the floor? Man,
(31:52):
this class class personified on this show. So, um, we
hope you get better, Aaron Donald. And that that concludes
our coverage of the l A. Rams said, Hey, listen,
you know he's that that community. He's a fan. You know,
that's nothing wrong with being a fan. You know, there's
(32:13):
the worst things. Uh. It is Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington,
Brady Quickly, offense are all right, it's coming up next.
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it's time for this time to put your money where
your mouth is. You know you're lying life. It's over
(34:09):
under fine to lead the lab. Where do we stand
on the overall season standings because there's been a lot
of exhibition weeks, which I don't think count towards anything,
but just want to see what the total numbers are here. Well,
last week made it very interesting. Brady was off last Thursday,
but we had three games to preview, and uh, let
me just rattle off a few of these because they
(34:29):
were Did you have someone picked for me? Yeah, you
had me picking for your break? Oh remember and if
you remember last time I picked for you, I did
pretty well for you there, buddy did. So let's let's
start with this one though. Last week we looked at
passing in rushing yards for Josh Allen. It was at
three thirty one and a half. Now get this, you guys.
(34:51):
He had two three passing yards and seventy eight rushing yards.
You know what that adds up to three thirty one.
Oh jesus. They were right on the nut, right on
the nose, and LaVar had the under on that one.
So LaVar took the first round. So we were rewarding
LaVar because he's being negative. He's being negative about loved
this game so far. Alright, let's do it. Let's just
(35:11):
going Giants Cowboys forty five and a half. Dallas won
that game twenty LaVar had the over on that one.
He took round two. Yeah, I love this sax for
Michael Parsons was only at a half. LaVar hit the
over on that one, so did Jonas. Yeah really not
hold on? Did you really not pick him to have
a sack? Yes, he did. He was injured. He was injured.
(35:35):
Remember going into that game, it was you really pick him?
All right? Now? I know what happened here? What I'm
not even gonna I don't care. What do you mean?
I was slightly despite Lee tanking things for me. Yeah, yeah,
but that was that was the only bad bet that
(35:56):
he made for you, right Lee? Yeah, that's correct. Hey,
let's let's do this. By the way, how about this?
Who always says this when we do over and unders?
Well sits it in count? It's just an exhibition? Right yeah?
Who speaks one? That's that's such a weak move. Who
would say that? Who would say that? Leave? What what
other picks did you make for Brady? Brady also took
(36:18):
the under on the yards for Justin Jefferson at eighty
six and a half. You actually had a hundred. That
was a bad pick by Brady by the way, Brady,
you really tanked in you unbelievable man. That was all
the weight's messed up. But you did hit this one. Brady,
hit the under on the Bills Lions game for road
Actually sorry road teams at one one and a half
(36:41):
there was you hit the under on that one. Bills
were the only thing. I just I now know where
your alliance is now. It's sad I sucked last week too, Sorry, Brady,
I tried so. So who won this week's tank? Vary? Good?
Good week? You closed the guts? Say it again again?
Say it again? La? Yeah, well that needs By the way,
(37:09):
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All right, So what what do we got this weekly? Yeah?
(37:31):
What do we got? Take for me this? Happily you
can extend your lead here, Brady, because you're still in
the lead. We got bills at Patriots point total in
this game forty three and a half. Oh, I was
not prepared for that. I thought you're gonna go to
spread first. I will take the under. I will take
(37:58):
the over as well. Yeah, over, bills are minus three
and a half. By the way, passing in rushing yards
for Josh Allen three sixteen and a half, I want
to take the over a half. I feel like under
take the over all right, you guys passing touch LaVar
(38:23):
take LaVar, tak over passing touchdowns for Mac Jones one
and a half. Oh, I'm gonna say the under, take
the under. There's a blueprint here pound the other. I'm
(38:47):
gonna take no, no, no, I'm gonna take that over.
I'm gonna take that over. I'm gonna take that over.
I took that over on the points, so I'm gonna
take over alright, fellas. The game is at Gillette Stadium.
Number of commercials we have for the Gillette Intimate Pubic
Hair Trimmer out a half under, I'm gonna take under.
I'll take the oder as well too. You would use
(39:09):
it on the under, that's for sure, nobody. Yeah, there
you go, Lee, it's the way to do it. Lastly,
you guys, this week is the O b J Tour.
Number of mentions we have for O b J during
the broadcast at a half? Of course, friends with von
(39:29):
Miller over over? Yeah, this is over and if they
don't mention it by the fourth quarter, it'll fall asleep
on a plane again and then try and get his
name in the news there so they'll figure out a
way to work him in out a half or one
and a half at a half. Yeah, I'm gonna they're
gonna mentioned him at least once half to yeah, yeah,
(39:51):
they got to over all right, there it is. There's
our our So how close to to queue? Am I? Now?
With that four and one? Four and one and them
you dumping him this this peat this past week out
close somewhere you're one behind Brady here? Ye? Where's bonus? Jonas?
And Jonas is just two behind you? A second? Hold
(40:12):
on a second. I love this game. What are you
talk talking about? Lee? This is amazing? Okay, you have
the Lee? What are we talking about here? I'm in
second place? Aren't you are? In second place? Yeah? I
got fuzzy math here, I got fuzzy math. Still in
third place? How this is why this is I'm only
one behind you. How am I in third place? This
(40:35):
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