December 14, 2022 • 39 mins
Baker Mayfield is in line to start for the Rams on Monday Night vs the Packers which may spark much needed life into the organization. Meanwhile, Sean Payton is rumored to be eying the Rams or Chargers as his next coaching gig. The Old P, Petros Papadakis stops by to talk about Mike Leach and Caleb Williams winning the Heisman. Plus, the weekly edition of the BQ News.
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a couple of UH and they're kind of one and
the same. L A for our friends listening on the
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Blowtorch and five seven l A Sports UH and those
around the country. The Baker Mayfield phenomenon in l A
apparently is going to continue. So we're looking at Baker
Mayfield is gonna be getting a start on Monday Night
football for the l A Rams against the Green Bay Packers.
He's in line to get the start there. I don't
know why the hell he wouldn't get the start if
he played the way that he played last Thursday. But
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here we go part two of Baker Mayfield. If there's
an opportunity for him to be their long term and
and depending on how he plays this year, and who
knows what Matt stafford, but I guess the plan is
maybe he comes back next year. That's the way it
looks right now. But who the hell knows. But if
you're Baker Mayfield, isn't l A in the Rams where
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he's at in his career right now kind of the
perfect spot for him at this point. As far as
to continue on, is he the perfect quarterback for Sean
McVeigh and more in the sense of if you're looking
at how frustrating the season has had to have been
for Sean McVeigh, seeing his excitement, seeing just I mean
almost like the relief at the end of the game
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for McVeigh after you look, they want a Super Bowl,
but you know, one of the things. And then Coach
Meyer always says this this. You know, whenever he won
a national championship, he said, you know, people would always
come up to him and say, you know what, the
worst thing about what in the National Championship is well,
now that's the expectation everyone else has on you. You know,
everyone expects you to win another one. And that's I'm
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sure the expectation for Rams fans and for some of
the NFL community because they ran it back. They brought
back Aaron Donald, you know, and and some of the
other pieces they had, and none of it's gone to plan.
But now you've got Baker Mayfield, who's maybe this like
light at the end of the tunnel where I don't
know what's gonna happen with Matt Stafford when he wants
to choose to decide to retire. But you've got a
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guy now that's winning the Wings to revamp his career,
and he's highly motivated, and he's energetic, and he's head
button dudes without a helmet on, and that might play
into a little bit of McVeigh and saying all right, look, look,
let's build this back up with Baker and maybe a
different challenge to where Stafford won a Super Bowl with
the Rams, and you know, he always felt like he
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had something to prove and he was good enough to
be able to when he did it. And now you've
got Baker Mayfield. He's trying to resurrect his career, and
maybe Shop McVey plays into that and says, you know what,
I'm gonna make this guy to something that maybe some
other teams you know, didn't think about him. But maybe
I can make him a sup Bowl winning quarterback too.
I would first start off by saying to your question,
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is this the perfect landing spot for Baker Mayfield? I
think any spot that he would have got an opportunity
to continue his career would have been the perfect space,
perfect place because of just how difficult it is to
not only be in the league, but even be in
a position where you can start. I mean, we saw
he didn't come in well I guess he did come
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in as a starter in Carolina, Yeah, but that didn't
last long. And and so of course it's the perfect
place because it's a place that gave him an opportunity
and in his third team as in in as many
years like he's he's only been he's been to three
teams in in two years time. So I mean for
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me to have the opportunity to do it in such
a great market. He's off to a good start, but
it's it's for me. It's no different than some of
these other quarterbacks that were starting when the starting quarterback
was out in the sense that this guy has to
be able to produce and produce longer more than just
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one or two games. I think we gotta get a
larger sample size of what Baker is going to do,
as uh l a ram, I think before we get
too deep off into the conversation of what this team
will do in terms of moving forward with with Baker Mayfield,
you know, is this a scenario where you're building the
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team around him? Is it a scenario where you can
go back in the right direction with him? You know?
I mean, would you would any of us be confident
saying that's a definitive yes today? I don't think guy
would be. So I think that he still has a
ton to prove in terms of if he's that guy
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for McVeigh and for the Rams to to build around
moving moving forward. So, I mean, can I ask this, yeah,
just to get out not to get off on a
tangent on it. If McVeigh took Mayfield to a Super Bowl.
How many coaches have been to a Super Bowl with
three different quarterbacks? Uh? Joe Gibbs, Right, Yeah, Joe Gibbs
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did it. Besides Joe Gibbs. I don't think so Parcels
did it with two or no Parcels did it with
three because he took Um obviously Stetler, Phil Sims and
then Drew Bledsoe with New England. Um. But yeah, it's
rarefied air, Like it's not We're not talking about a
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lot of guys maybe two or three at most, not Belichick.
I mean, yeah, I think the only thing that like
stands in your way a little bit is it's not
like these guys aren't talented. I mean, Mayfiel would take
a number one overall. Stafford was too. Yeah, yes, it's
it's maybe a little different, Bill Parcels something about that part.
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It's like these guys are kind of expected to be
pretty talented. So you remember when we were talking about
how the Jets when Mike White played like he did
the first game and and just sort of the reactions
and how excited everybody looked on the field, and then
they're wearing his T shirts afterwards, and it was like, well,
you don't recall them acting that way or or looking
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that way when Zack Wilson was out there. To your point,
it did look like a much different Sean McVeigh than
we've seen all season long. And I'm not saying that's
an indictment on Stafford as a quarterback, but maybe McVeigh
was just really worn out by the whole situation. Stafford
hasn't been healthy at all this year, I mean going
back to the off season with with that weird elbow
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injury and whatever the hell that was, and it did
look like all of a sudden, there was a fire again,
and he was excited, players were excited. It did add
a little bit of juice there, and I don't think
you can deny that. Just watching the reactions of him
and and the rest of those players on that team,
it seemed like it added a little spark there. So
who knows. Maybe, And by the way, here's the other
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other part of this conversation. Apparently the NFL network as
as reporting that Sean Payton, who's the big name out
there in the coaching world, as far as somebody who
wants to get back on the sidelines, eventually that his
preference would be to coach one of the l A teams,
so that would be either the Chargers or the Rams.
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So if McVey were to step aside, he would be
interested if Brandon Staley gets fired, uh you know he
obviously Sean Payton would be interested in that gig. And
then NOLA dot Com is also saying that the Saints
are still an option. So apparently Sean Payton's name is
being floated out there. I don't know who's getting ahold
of this information, of this is Peyton him self, But
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if you know, if Sean McVeigh doesn't see enough in
whatever he's got going on there in l A, then
Sean Payton would be open to the idea of coaching
that RAMS team. So who knows. Maybe we're talking about
Sean Payton and Baker Mayfield next year and not Sean McVeigh.
But seems like these reports are coming out pretty hot
and heavy over the past couple of weeks. Purely coincidental. Correct,
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like nobody's getting to the media and leaking this stuff
purely coincidental. Well, I mean, it isn't Sean Payton publicly
say that teams need look at I don't think he
said both l A teams specifically. Oh, I thought he
had mentioned that. Yeah, who knows. I mean, it isn't
isn't that kind of uh like a no no in
the coaching community. If if you're saying, what what jobs
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you would take when you're in need of a job,
even though those jobs aren't open, it seems like it
he would kick me off. I mean, even though I
think ultimately everyone's probably thinking that they want those jobs.
Like if Brandon Staylor was on the hot seat and
there's an inclination that that job maybe coming open, you
probably want to make it known publicly if you're a
great HAD football coach that you want that job. Although
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I don't know that you need to make it known publicly,
do you? Or is that more of a move to
get social media, get you know, the public, to put
pressure on the organization to explore that right, Maybe you
just want some attention there could be as well too. Uh.
And And also if you're Brandon Staley, if they make
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the playoffs, and say they make the playoffs and lose
in the first round, and depending on who they match
up with it and look if the Chargers are the
seventh seed and cases the two. I mean, they play
them well every time, and they've got wins over him.
But say you get to the to the first round
of the postseason and you lose in the first round,
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does Brandon Staley deserve to be fired? Because it feels
like he's got to do something extra special in order
to keep his job there the way the way some
of this stuff is going, it's crazy too. He's he's
even that case with the winning record as a head coach,
and I guess you just say, well, what they didn't
They didn't maximize their opportunity. I mean they were nine
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and eight last year obviously and ended up, you know,
losing in or they didn't make the playoffs. Just the
charges in the chiefs. But they're nine in eight last year,
assuming they would make the playoffs. Now they have to
have a winning record. They're not getting into eight nine, um,
and so you're you're assuming that at a minimum they
make it at nine and eight, Even though I haven't
done the math, I don't know if that's the correct calculation,
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but I think there's a chance they get to nine
maybe ten wins. Then at that point you'd be saying, okay,
you're moving on from the guy after making progress from
the year before, and even though you lose in the playoffs.
I mean, this team has been decimated with injuries on
defense in particular. Offensively, they're getting healthier, but still they've
been snake bitten all year and he's making progress. You
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just cut bait. I don't know that that'd be. That'd
be tough, tough for me to see, especially because again
I think I'm higher on him than other pool and
I think he the way he plays and the aggressiveness
on fourth down. I know some people call it stupid
because it hasn't worked out. There will be sometimes when
it does work out, and that's all that you're gonna
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end up remembering, you know, not the other times. I
think if he coaches long enough and and is able
to be there long enough, but it's kind of weird
to think they'd fire with a losing record, winning record.
Here's the record down the stretch for the Chargers Titans
at home this weekend. I feel confident in that. I mean,
I'm not blowing like the Titans haven't been there. They're
up against it. Their backs are up against the wall.
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So the Titans at home and then the Chargers are
at the Cults the following week, okay there, Yeah, and
then they got the Rams at home they should obviously
at home. Uh, and then they've got there at Denver
final game. There, So we could be looking at a
tenor eleven win team potentially loses in the first round
of the playoffs, and the fact that the conversation would
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even be about this guy losing his job is kind
of wild. Can I ask this? I mean, if you
look at the two years prior, like they were bad football,
I mean they were five and eleven, I think seven nine.
Let's say it's not like he hasn't kind of helped
turn that around, right where we look at them as
a playoff team, which you know, again this year, it
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looks like they're trending that way. If the playoffs started today,
they would be. Um, I don't know, I guess maybe
maybe you look at Justin Herbert after you want offensive
rookie of the year, you go, well, why isn't you know,
why don't they win more games? Like a two wind
improvement over being seven and nine the year before Herbert's
rookie year. It's more significant than people think. And if
they get to ten wins and they get the playoffs,
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Like these are scrides that I think you'd have to
say playing in that division against the Kansa City Chiefs
or like the Perennial like you know, Guardians of the
a f C at this point, Like yeah, that's that's
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He's also a Fox College Football analysts. You can get
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him on Twitter at the Old Peak. Good morning, Petro's morning. Hello,
Hello everybody. Hello, Hello, Hey, morning to everybody. Yeah, Petro's
you got any fun Mike Leach stories to honor the
late great coach? Yeah, dude, that you know, it's tough.
It's tough to it's tough when reality slaps you in
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the face. And I mean people die all the time, right,
but it's just when somebody that unique and somebody that
that is not willing to engage when everybody goes, it's jarring.
And especially you know, you don't when you think along
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the terms of college football, you think like, well, no,
I mean they have a bowl game. You can't you know,
it's just it's it's really really it's just a really
hard thing to process it. He's gone, because there was
something very interesting with him. When you would look into
his eyes, there was this real You know, most people
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you talk to him, you try to make him laugh
a little bit and find an opportunity to walk away,
right are most people when you're talking to them or
they're talking to you, you're kind of thinking of something
or worrying about what's next, or going to check your
phone in five seconds or something like that. And and
Leach was the type of person where when he was
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talking to you, you felt like he was all the
way there, like one in, regardless of who you were,
regardless of what you were talking about. The look in
his eye when you were speaking and when he was
speaking to you and asking you questions was one of
genuine and real interest. And it made you feel good
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about yourself. I mean, it makes you feel good when
somebody's asking you questions. That is just somebody at a
Christmas party, let alone a very famous and innovative college
football coach that everybody's into. So it was just really
it was really an interesting thing because most everybody you
talked to, especially in our business, especially when you're a
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media person talking to a football coach, you feel like
this guy's just waiting to get to the next thing.
He's got a special teams meeting in five minutes. And
Mike Leach really had no concept of time, uh, for
better or for worse, in football and in life. And
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it made for one of the most interesting men that
I've ever been around in our work. And it's very
sad obviously for his family and his players and all
the people that he touched over the years, because it
doesn't matter. Coaches that are so opposite from him that
you would think would be absolutely abhorred by the style
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of football that he coached loved him and were enamored
with him and wanted to be around him. So it
says a lot. But yeah, I have stories, but they're
very similar to everybody else's. You know. There's just no
concept of time, very much engaged with every question that
he could be asking you where you could be asking him.
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And really, when you look at the coaching tree, that
really Bob Stoops started in the in the turn of
the century when he took over Oklahoma, and that was
before you could flip your whole team from transferring when
Bob Stoops when we were all in college, or Brady
was in high school with his neck roll Bob Bob
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stoops when he took over Oklahoma and they were one
of those blue blood struggling football teams that we've seen
over the years that needed a see change and you
couldn't go to the portal. So he just moved half
his defensive players to offense and half the offensive guys
to defense, and they had Leech And it was just
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a really wild thing that happened in Oklahoma back then.
Somebody should make a documentary about it because of all
the coaches that have come through it and all the
success and Heisman's and all that stuff that followed. Yeah,
I was gonna ask you. I mean, obviously everyone's got
their story and their time they spent with coach Leech,
which we talked about a little bit earlier, But what
about his impact on on like the game, Like I
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talked about earlier, Like my first I guess time experiencing
that was going to a Kentucky you know game where
Tim Couch was the start right how mommy was the
head coach, Mike Leach was calling plays and I remember
watched it going I'm a quarterback from Ohio with the
neck roll, running the midline option, the wing tea. It's
like this was like a whole new world and and
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looking at that, you were like, that went to hell.
And so you know, I'm curious, curious to get your
impressionive just his packed on the game, because I do
feel like, look snaps in the NFL now from shotgun.
You know, it's like it's like a lot of probably
what he did and push people to do is help
kind of guide us in this direction. Has it not? No,
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You're absolutely right, And the way people think of it
is not the way they should think of it, because
an air raid is just a word or a term
for making you defend the entire football field sideline to
sideline and vertically, and you do that by involving all
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five skill positions at any time on any given play,
in any place on the field. So it really doesn't
have as much to do with throwing the football. I mean,
Leech loved to throw it and he did not run
it very much. But the philosophy behind it was just
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as simple as what I just said, make them defend
all the quadrants of the field. Involve all five skill positions,
regardless of which guy it is or where he is.
They they have the defense has to feel like any
of those guys and any part of the field can
touch the ball at any time, and they have to
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open up their hips and run. So everybody's air raid,
like Cliff Kingsbury when he was a Texas text air
raid was always a little different. It had something on
the back side, usually a little bit right, like a
screen or some kind of action on the other side.
Leech was just the quarterback is going to be exploded,
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and he has got to drop back and distribute and go, go, go,
go go. And they might win a game that where
they were down by thirty in the fourth quarter. They
might lose a game that they were down by thirty
in the fourth quarter. It was always kind of a
really exciting thing. I I don't. I mean, Dana Holgerson's
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was a little bit different. He when he was at
West Virginia, he started involving a fullback and a tight
end because he had to take those guys because they
were all state players in West Virginia, and those people
would have been pissed if he didn't. I mean, you
just go down the line. I mean Sunny Dike's obviously
does it differently. He comes from that. I mean, you
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have Josh Hype at Tennessee. He's a leech guy. And
it's interesting because we talked about this too. There isn't
a lot of places where he could have worked, right
because he was going to show up late for stuff.
He was going to be dressed in sweats when everybody
else was in a full talk he was. You know,
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you tell him to talk for five minutes and he
would talk for forty and that would that have worked
at Tennessee? It would have been interesting to find out
would that have worked at U C. L A or
all these other places that were rumored to be interested
in him over the years they had that weird circus
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like hiring at Tennessee that torpedoed his career there or
potential one there. But he really only existed in the
Power five and the furthest outposts of the Power five
Washington State, Pullman, Texas Tech, Lubbock, and Stark, Vegas. So
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it would have been interesting if the fates allowed him
to have a little bit more of a resourced football
program in the Power Five. Although he had great success
I'm gonna stay with and and shots out in respect
to to the coach. I'm gonna change gears on you
and go to the Heisman winner. Um, what what do
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you think Cayleb winning Kayleb Williams winning the Heisman does
for USC football? And and and just how does that
part lay into the conversation of you know, obviously them
departing for the Big Ten. I mean, does it does
it impact the conversation any further? Does it make it
a bigger conversation now that you have, you know, a
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prestigious award that comes to, you know, one of the
most prestigious story teams you know, in impact history. Well,
we talked about this from time to time. You know,
it's really hard to win the Heisman unless you're a
USC football player on the West coast Mariota, Jim Plunkett,
Gary Beeban, Terry Baker. And I think that's it. I
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mean you, unless you're a USC football player, the award
just doesn't lean to the West. And just ask the
Stanford guys or Marshall Falk. I guess you can make
an argument for Rashaan Salaam, but he was a Colorado
in the Big twelve at the time, although he's a
San Diego running back and then uh Ty Detmer. But
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it's hard on the West Coast and win the Heisman.
So when us he has a guy win the Heisman,
it's great for the whole West Coast to be honest,
and I think it gives him a recruiting edge. It's
interesting because Caleb Williams is not going to play ever
in the Big tenn which is unless there's some kind
of injury and he comes back, but so it will
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be a future thing for as far as who the
quarterback is when they do move. But I think over
all of our it's just overwhelmingly positive. The guy brought
his offensive line, he gave a good speech, He handled
himself pretty well out there, I thought, and as much
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of a kind of outsider as he might feel like
now to USC fans, because you know, he didn't go
to Modern Day or something. He's the first guy ever
to do it from the d m V to win
the Heisman. He is he went to that Gonzaga High
School where a lot of different interesting people have God
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it's the oldest school in that federal area. So it
was established in eighte so and on a football team.
If you went to spring football, if you went to camp,
if you were there leading summer, and you went through
the whole season, you're you're one of them. So he's
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widely accepted and it's going to be another year that
he's here and have more time to kind of endear
himself to the area. So for me, I thought it
was was a great thing that he was able to
pull it out. You know it. It was a little
bit of a weird year where some guys fell off
at the end and the award is kind of skewed
as far as how it's given out, but it's very
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prestigious and it's a big deal and it gives you
a lot of recruiting. Uh, I guess cloud, but Lincoln
had that already with the guys he had in Oklahoma
as well, but just to show that he could do
it and on the West coast too, I think it is.
It is impactful. Patrick's we got just a couple of
minutes left, but this is really important. I had to
ask you here, Um, if you were going to paint
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F blank on your fingernails, who would you paint F
you two on your fingernails? That's a great question. You know,
I used to always want one of those pictures of
Calvin peeing on Lamigna the immigration. Yeah, but with some
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stuff that's not you can't paint that on your finger nails.
But you remember those back of the day, if you
drove a Ford, it would be him Calvin was either
peeing or praying. It was. Uh, that's such a great question. Gosh,
for anybody in sports media, you would you know that?
(29:06):
I mean anybody out there that who would who'd you
call out the one time when you were on with us?
I don't know. I'm trying to time you went after
someone It was a wife? Was it rich eyes? And oh? It?
You know? Like there's nobody I don't like, you know.
(29:27):
I mean I hated my opponent in football. I hated
people that tried to tackle me. I didn't want to
be touched. You knowed now trying to give you a
hug and you're not very welcome. I I that's not true.
I'm a huggy guy, touchy feeling guy. I touch you, Brady,
but you got the touch. But yeah, I don't know
(29:52):
if there's anybody I hate that much to paint their
name on my fingers, like like like Robert didiro cape
fear vengeance is mind, you know, I don't. Plus, you
know it's got to be a short amount of letters.
It's gonna be, you know, it's the initial figures. Could
(30:14):
use their initials, Yeah, like we use PW for Jonas
And I just learned what p W meant today. Yeah,
p W. Do you know what it means? By the way,
p W A rhymes with um thud lacquer. Yeah. Yeah,
you know it's uh to derogatory. Yeah, you know, it's
(30:39):
very derogatory. You do a lot of that mud you
never know defends, you know, you'd think you'd slow down
in your older a lot of that, you don't. You
really don't you know it at all? Petros, we appreciate
a ban good stuff on coach Leech And if you
(31:00):
think of anybody you want to write f you two
on your fingernails, just want to sad on your Twitter
and Texas. Yeah, could be anybody Lebron no Stafford's wife. No,
I don't like Megan Markle. Why don't you like Megan Markle?
(31:22):
Because I don't? Would you put her on your fingers?
Who not? What happened? I mean, what does Megan very strong.
I used to know her. She used to be she
used to be married to something. I know. I used
to watch her operate. It was pretty interesting. I thought
(31:44):
she hold on for a second, like the Okay, no,
I don't know the prince was married before that. I know,
but the whole story was. I thought she was an
actress and kind of you know, how do you know
what Petro's I know who I know who would be
Jeff Goldblum. No, I don't have anything against gold Bloom.
(32:06):
It's not like I wanted to marry big One. I
wanted to know more about Marco though sidetracking like her.
I didn't like her then, and i'm that now. I
see how dey married to who was she married to?
You saw how she operated. She someone someone had told
me that she was an actress, an that she was
before that. Obviously she was on the what was the
(32:26):
suitcase thing with how I Meandel, Oh yeah, yeah, she's
one of the girls on that. And then she apparently
was pretty targeted. How she went about hanging out with
rich guys and Dane rich guys was by understanding, I mean,
isn't that common? Yeah? Well almost, especially out here before
it almost ventured into the another another god of mercy
(32:55):
an I don't know if she's at two. That's my
my favorite term for hooker. At one time, I was
at the I was at the I was at the
All Star Game, and I was with the immortal David Vasse,
(33:16):
baseball reporter extraordinaire, and I'm sitting in the lobby always
friendly on the air. By the way, Yeah, not to you,
I was sitting in there. I think you just get
collateral damage there, joke. I was sitting in the uh
the lobby or the bar of one of the bougie
hotels that was connected with the All Star Game, and
(33:37):
there's all kinds of baseball types. They're older people, managers, scout,
you know types. And Dave's looking around. He goes, you
know what those girls are said, what she's a what to? No? No,
(34:04):
I did, I didn't hear those rooms. Oh yeah, that's
like a deep dive. One time, while Jonas was talking
about the situation there, that's what I do. I try
to take it deep dives into the dark spots of
the web and trying to figure all this stuff out.
You would have to put on the red light. You
don't have to petros. You don't have to sell your
(34:25):
body to the night at the old Pets to do
it again next week. To pull out pac Man, I
pulled out way early. Whoa reference? It is? Reference to
Pros and a Cup of Joe? Here? What do you
say about this fraternity? That's total bs. I pulled out
(34:47):
way early on that already ad libbed that whole role.
Is that true? He had to how many years? Band
about one for every topic here on this Potato bar
on classic. All right, we'll do it again next week, Patrise,
We appreciate the great Patrick Vegas. All right, it's coming
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murder after stabbing another and over a bottle of cologne. Now,
unfortunately the article it does not say what fragrance it was.
It's unfortunate, but using a metal pool and a knife. Uh,
(37:13):
this gentleman attacked for their victim. Here's the crazy part. Uh,
this particular individual, he's already served a combined thirty years
in prison and was recently released in May. I mean,
I can't imagine. I guess at that point I spent
so much time. He's just very particular about his fragrances. Yeah, Like, well,
(37:33):
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this crime? Like what's worth of stabbing? I don't know. Mambo.
Here's the crazy. Well, mambos, what you wear? That's your france?
Well what do you what do you wear? What's your cologne? Disclose?
I like it, okay, and I won't tell you mine either.
(37:54):
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there's a social media story. He teaches you how to
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(38:15):
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makes it on the counter of his hotel bathroom a pizza. Like,
how does he cooking? He used? He put he has
a pan, but he uses a hair dryer. He puts
on hot. He melts the cheese over top of the pan. Yeah,
(38:36):
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It took took my my girls to this Polar Express.
It's this this book obviously, and they made like a
real life experience out of it. And uh, there's the
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lasted through that whole thing. And um, then Chick fil
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a couple of UH and they're kind of one and
the same. L A for our friends listening on the
(02:48):
Blowtorch and five seven l A Sports UH and those
around the country. The Baker Mayfield phenomenon in l A
apparently is going to continue. So we're looking at Baker
Mayfield is gonna be getting a start on Monday Night
football for the l A Rams against the Green Bay Packers.
He's in line to get the start there. I don't
know why the hell he wouldn't get the start if
he played the way that he played last Thursday. But
(03:11):
here we go part two of Baker Mayfield. If there's
an opportunity for him to be their long term and
and depending on how he plays this year, and who
knows what Matt stafford, but I guess the plan is
maybe he comes back next year. That's the way it
looks right now. But who the hell knows. But if
you're Baker Mayfield, isn't l A in the Rams where
(03:33):
he's at in his career right now kind of the
perfect spot for him at this point. As far as
to continue on, is he the perfect quarterback for Sean
McVeigh and more in the sense of if you're looking
at how frustrating the season has had to have been
for Sean McVeigh, seeing his excitement, seeing just I mean
almost like the relief at the end of the game
(03:55):
for McVeigh after you look, they want a Super Bowl,
but you know, one of the things. And then Coach
Meyer always says this this. You know, whenever he won
a national championship, he said, you know, people would always
come up to him and say, you know what, the
worst thing about what in the National Championship is well,
now that's the expectation everyone else has on you. You know,
everyone expects you to win another one. And that's I'm
(04:16):
sure the expectation for Rams fans and for some of
the NFL community because they ran it back. They brought
back Aaron Donald, you know, and and some of the
other pieces they had, and none of it's gone to plan.
But now you've got Baker Mayfield, who's maybe this like
light at the end of the tunnel where I don't
know what's gonna happen with Matt Stafford when he wants
to choose to decide to retire. But you've got a
(04:37):
guy now that's winning the Wings to revamp his career,
and he's highly motivated, and he's energetic, and he's head
button dudes without a helmet on, and that might play
into a little bit of McVeigh and saying all right, look, look,
let's build this back up with Baker and maybe a
different challenge to where Stafford won a Super Bowl with
the Rams, and you know, he always felt like he
(04:58):
had something to prove and he was good enough to
be able to when he did it. And now you've
got Baker Mayfield. He's trying to resurrect his career, and
maybe Shop McVey plays into that and says, you know what,
I'm gonna make this guy to something that maybe some
other teams you know, didn't think about him. But maybe
I can make him a sup Bowl winning quarterback too.
I would first start off by saying to your question,
(05:19):
is this the perfect landing spot for Baker Mayfield? I
think any spot that he would have got an opportunity
to continue his career would have been the perfect space,
perfect place because of just how difficult it is to
not only be in the league, but even be in
a position where you can start. I mean, we saw
he didn't come in well I guess he did come
(05:40):
in as a starter in Carolina, Yeah, but that didn't
last long. And and so of course it's the perfect
place because it's a place that gave him an opportunity
and in his third team as in in as many
years like he's he's only been he's been to three
teams in in two years time. So I mean for
(06:00):
me to have the opportunity to do it in such
a great market. He's off to a good start, but
it's it's for me. It's no different than some of
these other quarterbacks that were starting when the starting quarterback
was out in the sense that this guy has to
be able to produce and produce longer more than just
(06:23):
one or two games. I think we gotta get a
larger sample size of what Baker is going to do,
as uh l a ram, I think before we get
too deep off into the conversation of what this team
will do in terms of moving forward with with Baker Mayfield,
you know, is this a scenario where you're building the
(06:46):
team around him? Is it a scenario where you can
go back in the right direction with him? You know?
I mean, would you would any of us be confident
saying that's a definitive yes today? I don't think guy
would be. So I think that he still has a
ton to prove in terms of if he's that guy
(07:06):
for McVeigh and for the Rams to to build around
moving moving forward. So, I mean, can I ask this, yeah,
just to get out not to get off on a
tangent on it. If McVeigh took Mayfield to a Super Bowl.
How many coaches have been to a Super Bowl with
three different quarterbacks? Uh? Joe Gibbs, Right, Yeah, Joe Gibbs
(07:27):
did it. Besides Joe Gibbs. I don't think so Parcels
did it with two or no Parcels did it with
three because he took Um obviously Stetler, Phil Sims and
then Drew Bledsoe with New England. Um. But yeah, it's
rarefied air, Like it's not We're not talking about a
(07:48):
lot of guys maybe two or three at most, not Belichick.
I mean, yeah, I think the only thing that like
stands in your way a little bit is it's not
like these guys aren't talented. I mean, Mayfiel would take
a number one overall. Stafford was too. Yeah, yes, it's
it's maybe a little different, Bill Parcels something about that part.
(08:11):
It's like these guys are kind of expected to be
pretty talented. So you remember when we were talking about
how the Jets when Mike White played like he did
the first game and and just sort of the reactions
and how excited everybody looked on the field, and then
they're wearing his T shirts afterwards, and it was like, well,
you don't recall them acting that way or or looking
(08:32):
that way when Zack Wilson was out there. To your point,
it did look like a much different Sean McVeigh than
we've seen all season long. And I'm not saying that's
an indictment on Stafford as a quarterback, but maybe McVeigh
was just really worn out by the whole situation. Stafford
hasn't been healthy at all this year, I mean going
back to the off season with with that weird elbow
(08:55):
injury and whatever the hell that was, and it did
look like all of a sudden, there was a fire again,
and he was excited, players were excited. It did add
a little bit of juice there, and I don't think
you can deny that. Just watching the reactions of him
and and the rest of those players on that team,
it seemed like it added a little spark there. So
who knows. Maybe, And by the way, here's the other
(09:16):
other part of this conversation. Apparently the NFL network as
as reporting that Sean Payton, who's the big name out
there in the coaching world, as far as somebody who
wants to get back on the sidelines, eventually that his
preference would be to coach one of the l A teams,
so that would be either the Chargers or the Rams.
(09:39):
So if McVey were to step aside, he would be
interested if Brandon Staley gets fired, uh you know he
obviously Sean Payton would be interested in that gig. And
then NOLA dot Com is also saying that the Saints
are still an option. So apparently Sean Payton's name is
being floated out there. I don't know who's getting ahold
of this information, of this is Peyton him self, But
(10:00):
if you know, if Sean McVeigh doesn't see enough in
whatever he's got going on there in l A, then
Sean Payton would be open to the idea of coaching
that RAMS team. So who knows. Maybe we're talking about
Sean Payton and Baker Mayfield next year and not Sean McVeigh.
But seems like these reports are coming out pretty hot
and heavy over the past couple of weeks. Purely coincidental. Correct,
(10:20):
like nobody's getting to the media and leaking this stuff
purely coincidental. Well, I mean, it isn't Sean Payton publicly
say that teams need look at I don't think he
said both l A teams specifically. Oh, I thought he
had mentioned that. Yeah, who knows. I mean, it isn't
isn't that kind of uh like a no no in
the coaching community. If if you're saying, what what jobs
(10:43):
you would take when you're in need of a job,
even though those jobs aren't open, it seems like it
he would kick me off. I mean, even though I
think ultimately everyone's probably thinking that they want those jobs.
Like if Brandon Staylor was on the hot seat and
there's an inclination that that job maybe coming open, you
probably want to make it known publicly if you're a
great HAD football coach that you want that job. Although
(11:06):
I don't know that you need to make it known publicly,
do you? Or is that more of a move to
get social media, get you know, the public, to put
pressure on the organization to explore that right, Maybe you
just want some attention there could be as well too. Uh.
And And also if you're Brandon Staley, if they make
(11:27):
the playoffs, and say they make the playoffs and lose
in the first round, and depending on who they match
up with it and look if the Chargers are the
seventh seed and cases the two. I mean, they play
them well every time, and they've got wins over him.
But say you get to the to the first round
of the postseason and you lose in the first round,
(11:48):
does Brandon Staley deserve to be fired? Because it feels
like he's got to do something extra special in order
to keep his job there the way the way some
of this stuff is going, it's crazy too. He's he's
even that case with the winning record as a head coach,
and I guess you just say, well, what they didn't
They didn't maximize their opportunity. I mean they were nine
(12:09):
and eight last year obviously and ended up, you know,
losing in or they didn't make the playoffs. Just the
charges in the chiefs. But they're nine in eight last year,
assuming they would make the playoffs. Now they have to
have a winning record. They're not getting into eight nine, um,
and so you're you're assuming that at a minimum they
make it at nine and eight, Even though I haven't
done the math, I don't know if that's the correct calculation,
(12:30):
but I think there's a chance they get to nine
maybe ten wins. Then at that point you'd be saying, okay,
you're moving on from the guy after making progress from
the year before, and even though you lose in the playoffs.
I mean, this team has been decimated with injuries on
defense in particular. Offensively, they're getting healthier, but still they've
been snake bitten all year and he's making progress. You
(12:51):
just cut bait. I don't know that that'd be. That'd
be tough, tough for me to see, especially because again
I think I'm higher on him than other pool and
I think he the way he plays and the aggressiveness
on fourth down. I know some people call it stupid
because it hasn't worked out. There will be sometimes when
it does work out, and that's all that you're gonna
(13:11):
end up remembering, you know, not the other times. I
think if he coaches long enough and and is able
to be there long enough, but it's kind of weird
to think they'd fire with a losing record, winning record.
Here's the record down the stretch for the Chargers Titans
at home this weekend. I feel confident in that. I mean,
I'm not blowing like the Titans haven't been there. They're
up against it. Their backs are up against the wall.
(13:33):
So the Titans at home and then the Chargers are
at the Cults the following week, okay there, Yeah, and
then they got the Rams at home they should obviously
at home. Uh, and then they've got there at Denver
final game. There, So we could be looking at a
tenor eleven win team potentially loses in the first round
of the playoffs, and the fact that the conversation would
(13:56):
even be about this guy losing his job is kind
of wild. Can I ask this? I mean, if you
look at the two years prior, like they were bad football,
I mean they were five and eleven, I think seven nine.
Let's say it's not like he hasn't kind of helped
turn that around, right where we look at them as
a playoff team, which you know, again this year, it
(14:16):
looks like they're trending that way. If the playoffs started today,
they would be. Um, I don't know, I guess maybe
maybe you look at Justin Herbert after you want offensive
rookie of the year, you go, well, why isn't you know,
why don't they win more games? Like a two wind
improvement over being seven and nine the year before Herbert's
rookie year. It's more significant than people think. And if
they get to ten wins and they get the playoffs,
(14:38):
Like these are scrides that I think you'd have to
say playing in that division against the Kansa City Chiefs
or like the Perennial like you know, Guardians of the
a f C at this point, Like yeah, that's that's
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of the Petros and Money Show and where can you
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He's also a Fox College Football analysts. You can get
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him on Twitter at the Old Peak. Good morning, Petro's morning. Hello,
Hello everybody. Hello, Hello, Hey, morning to everybody. Yeah, Petro's
you got any fun Mike Leach stories to honor the
late great coach? Yeah, dude, that you know, it's tough.
It's tough to it's tough when reality slaps you in
(16:24):
the face. And I mean people die all the time, right,
but it's just when somebody that unique and somebody that
that is not willing to engage when everybody goes, it's jarring.
And especially you know, you don't when you think along
(16:46):
the terms of college football, you think like, well, no,
I mean they have a bowl game. You can't you know,
it's just it's it's really really it's just a really
hard thing to process it. He's gone, because there was
something very interesting with him. When you would look into
his eyes, there was this real You know, most people
(17:09):
you talk to him, you try to make him laugh
a little bit and find an opportunity to walk away,
right are most people when you're talking to them or
they're talking to you, you're kind of thinking of something
or worrying about what's next, or going to check your
phone in five seconds or something like that. And and
Leach was the type of person where when he was
(17:32):
talking to you, you felt like he was all the
way there, like one in, regardless of who you were,
regardless of what you were talking about. The look in
his eye when you were speaking and when he was
speaking to you and asking you questions was one of
genuine and real interest. And it made you feel good
(17:54):
about yourself. I mean, it makes you feel good when
somebody's asking you questions. That is just somebody at a
Christmas party, let alone a very famous and innovative college
football coach that everybody's into. So it was just really
it was really an interesting thing because most everybody you
talked to, especially in our business, especially when you're a
(18:16):
media person talking to a football coach, you feel like
this guy's just waiting to get to the next thing.
He's got a special teams meeting in five minutes. And
Mike Leach really had no concept of time, uh, for
better or for worse, in football and in life. And
(18:37):
it made for one of the most interesting men that
I've ever been around in our work. And it's very
sad obviously for his family and his players and all
the people that he touched over the years, because it
doesn't matter. Coaches that are so opposite from him that
you would think would be absolutely abhorred by the style
(19:03):
of football that he coached loved him and were enamored
with him and wanted to be around him. So it
says a lot. But yeah, I have stories, but they're
very similar to everybody else's. You know. There's just no
concept of time, very much engaged with every question that
he could be asking you where you could be asking him.
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And really, when you look at the coaching tree, that
really Bob Stoops started in the in the turn of
the century when he took over Oklahoma, and that was
before you could flip your whole team from transferring when
Bob Stoops when we were all in college, or Brady
was in high school with his neck roll Bob Bob
(19:46):
stoops when he took over Oklahoma and they were one
of those blue blood struggling football teams that we've seen
over the years that needed a see change and you
couldn't go to the portal. So he just moved half
his defensive players to offense and half the offensive guys
to defense, and they had Leech And it was just
(20:06):
a really wild thing that happened in Oklahoma back then.
Somebody should make a documentary about it because of all
the coaches that have come through it and all the
success and Heisman's and all that stuff that followed. Yeah,
I was gonna ask you. I mean, obviously everyone's got
their story and their time they spent with coach Leech,
which we talked about a little bit earlier, But what
about his impact on on like the game, Like I
(20:29):
talked about earlier, Like my first I guess time experiencing
that was going to a Kentucky you know game where
Tim Couch was the start right how mommy was the
head coach, Mike Leach was calling plays and I remember
watched it going I'm a quarterback from Ohio with the
neck roll, running the midline option, the wing tea. It's
like this was like a whole new world and and
(20:50):
looking at that, you were like, that went to hell.
And so you know, I'm curious, curious to get your
impressionive just his packed on the game, because I do
feel like, look snaps in the NFL now from shotgun.
You know, it's like it's like a lot of probably
what he did and push people to do is help
kind of guide us in this direction. Has it not? No,
(21:13):
You're absolutely right, And the way people think of it
is not the way they should think of it, because
an air raid is just a word or a term
for making you defend the entire football field sideline to
sideline and vertically, and you do that by involving all
(21:37):
five skill positions at any time on any given play,
in any place on the field. So it really doesn't
have as much to do with throwing the football. I mean,
Leech loved to throw it and he did not run
it very much. But the philosophy behind it was just
(21:58):
as simple as what I just said, make them defend
all the quadrants of the field. Involve all five skill positions,
regardless of which guy it is or where he is.
They they have the defense has to feel like any
of those guys and any part of the field can
touch the ball at any time, and they have to
(22:18):
open up their hips and run. So everybody's air raid,
like Cliff Kingsbury when he was a Texas text air
raid was always a little different. It had something on
the back side, usually a little bit right, like a
screen or some kind of action on the other side.
Leech was just the quarterback is going to be exploded,
(22:42):
and he has got to drop back and distribute and go, go, go,
go go. And they might win a game that where
they were down by thirty in the fourth quarter. They
might lose a game that they were down by thirty
in the fourth quarter. It was always kind of a
really exciting thing. I I don't. I mean, Dana Holgerson's
(23:03):
was a little bit different. He when he was at
West Virginia, he started involving a fullback and a tight
end because he had to take those guys because they
were all state players in West Virginia, and those people
would have been pissed if he didn't. I mean, you
just go down the line. I mean Sunny Dike's obviously
does it differently. He comes from that. I mean, you
(23:25):
have Josh Hype at Tennessee. He's a leech guy. And
it's interesting because we talked about this too. There isn't
a lot of places where he could have worked, right
because he was going to show up late for stuff.
He was going to be dressed in sweats when everybody
else was in a full talk he was. You know,
(23:47):
you tell him to talk for five minutes and he
would talk for forty and that would that have worked
at Tennessee? It would have been interesting to find out
would that have worked at U C. L A or
all these other places that were rumored to be interested
in him over the years they had that weird circus
(24:08):
like hiring at Tennessee that torpedoed his career there or
potential one there. But he really only existed in the
Power five and the furthest outposts of the Power five
Washington State, Pullman, Texas Tech, Lubbock, and Stark, Vegas. So
(24:31):
it would have been interesting if the fates allowed him
to have a little bit more of a resourced football
program in the Power Five. Although he had great success
I'm gonna stay with and and shots out in respect
to to the coach. I'm gonna change gears on you
and go to the Heisman winner. Um, what what do
(24:52):
you think Cayleb winning Kayleb Williams winning the Heisman does
for USC football? And and and just how does that
part lay into the conversation of you know, obviously them
departing for the Big Ten. I mean, does it does
it impact the conversation any further? Does it make it
a bigger conversation now that you have, you know, a
(25:14):
prestigious award that comes to, you know, one of the
most prestigious story teams you know, in impact history. Well,
we talked about this from time to time. You know,
it's really hard to win the Heisman unless you're a
USC football player on the West coast Mariota, Jim Plunkett,
Gary Beeban, Terry Baker. And I think that's it. I
(25:39):
mean you, unless you're a USC football player, the award
just doesn't lean to the West. And just ask the
Stanford guys or Marshall Falk. I guess you can make
an argument for Rashaan Salaam, but he was a Colorado
in the Big twelve at the time, although he's a
San Diego running back and then uh Ty Detmer. But
(26:04):
it's hard on the West Coast and win the Heisman.
So when us he has a guy win the Heisman,
it's great for the whole West Coast to be honest,
and I think it gives him a recruiting edge. It's
interesting because Caleb Williams is not going to play ever
in the Big tenn which is unless there's some kind
of injury and he comes back, but so it will
(26:27):
be a future thing for as far as who the
quarterback is when they do move. But I think over
all of our it's just overwhelmingly positive. The guy brought
his offensive line, he gave a good speech, He handled
himself pretty well out there, I thought, and as much
(26:50):
of a kind of outsider as he might feel like
now to USC fans, because you know, he didn't go
to Modern Day or something. He's the first guy ever
to do it from the d m V to win
the Heisman. He is he went to that Gonzaga High
School where a lot of different interesting people have God
(27:12):
it's the oldest school in that federal area. So it
was established in eighte so and on a football team.
If you went to spring football, if you went to camp,
if you were there leading summer, and you went through
the whole season, you're you're one of them. So he's
(27:34):
widely accepted and it's going to be another year that
he's here and have more time to kind of endear
himself to the area. So for me, I thought it
was was a great thing that he was able to
pull it out. You know it. It was a little
bit of a weird year where some guys fell off
at the end and the award is kind of skewed
as far as how it's given out, but it's very
(27:56):
prestigious and it's a big deal and it gives you
a lot of recruiting. Uh, I guess cloud, but Lincoln
had that already with the guys he had in Oklahoma
as well, but just to show that he could do
it and on the West coast too, I think it is.
It is impactful. Patrick's we got just a couple of
minutes left, but this is really important. I had to
ask you here, Um, if you were going to paint
(28:19):
F blank on your fingernails, who would you paint F
you two on your fingernails? That's a great question. You know,
I used to always want one of those pictures of
Calvin peeing on Lamigna the immigration. Yeah, but with some
(28:43):
stuff that's not you can't paint that on your finger nails.
But you remember those back of the day, if you
drove a Ford, it would be him Calvin was either
peeing or praying. It was. Uh, that's such a great question. Gosh,
for anybody in sports media, you would you know that?
(29:06):
I mean anybody out there that who would who'd you
call out the one time when you were on with us?
I don't know. I'm trying to time you went after
someone It was a wife? Was it rich eyes? And oh? It?
You know? Like there's nobody I don't like, you know.
(29:27):
I mean I hated my opponent in football. I hated
people that tried to tackle me. I didn't want to
be touched. You knowed now trying to give you a
hug and you're not very welcome. I I that's not true.
I'm a huggy guy, touchy feeling guy. I touch you, Brady,
but you got the touch. But yeah, I don't know
(29:52):
if there's anybody I hate that much to paint their
name on my fingers, like like like Robert didiro cape
fear vengeance is mind, you know, I don't. Plus, you
know it's got to be a short amount of letters.
It's gonna be, you know, it's the initial figures. Could
(30:14):
use their initials, Yeah, like we use PW for Jonas
And I just learned what p W meant today. Yeah,
p W. Do you know what it means? By the way,
p W A rhymes with um thud lacquer. Yeah. Yeah,
you know it's uh to derogatory. Yeah, you know, it's
(30:39):
very derogatory. You do a lot of that mud you
never know defends, you know, you'd think you'd slow down
in your older a lot of that, you don't. You
really don't you know it at all? Petros, we appreciate
a ban good stuff on coach Leech And if you
(31:00):
think of anybody you want to write f you two
on your fingernails, just want to sad on your Twitter
and Texas. Yeah, could be anybody Lebron no Stafford's wife. No,
I don't like Megan Markle. Why don't you like Megan Markle?
(31:22):
Because I don't? Would you put her on your fingers?
Who not? What happened? I mean, what does Megan very strong.
I used to know her. She used to be she
used to be married to something. I know. I used
to watch her operate. It was pretty interesting. I thought
(31:44):
she hold on for a second, like the Okay, no,
I don't know the prince was married before that. I know,
but the whole story was. I thought she was an
actress and kind of you know, how do you know
what Petro's I know who I know who would be
Jeff Goldblum. No, I don't have anything against gold Bloom.
(32:06):
It's not like I wanted to marry big One. I
wanted to know more about Marco though sidetracking like her.
I didn't like her then, and i'm that now. I
see how dey married to who was she married to?
You saw how she operated. She someone someone had told
me that she was an actress, an that she was
before that. Obviously she was on the what was the
(32:26):
suitcase thing with how I Meandel, Oh yeah, yeah, she's
one of the girls on that. And then she apparently
was pretty targeted. How she went about hanging out with
rich guys and Dane rich guys was by understanding, I mean,
isn't that common? Yeah? Well almost, especially out here before
it almost ventured into the another another god of mercy
(32:55):
an I don't know if she's at two. That's my
my favorite term for hooker. At one time, I was
at the I was at the I was at the
All Star Game, and I was with the immortal David Vasse,
(33:16):
baseball reporter extraordinaire, and I'm sitting in the lobby always
friendly on the air. By the way, Yeah, not to you,
I was sitting in there. I think you just get
collateral damage there, joke. I was sitting in the uh
the lobby or the bar of one of the bougie
hotels that was connected with the All Star Game, and
(33:37):
there's all kinds of baseball types. They're older people, managers, scout,
you know types. And Dave's looking around. He goes, you
know what those girls are said, what she's a what to? No? No,
(34:04):
I did, I didn't hear those rooms. Oh yeah, that's
like a deep dive. One time, while Jonas was talking
about the situation there, that's what I do. I try
to take it deep dives into the dark spots of
the web and trying to figure all this stuff out.
You would have to put on the red light. You
don't have to petros. You don't have to sell your
(34:25):
body to the night at the old Pets to do
it again next week. To pull out pac Man, I
pulled out way early. Whoa reference? It is? Reference to
Pros and a Cup of Joe? Here? What do you
say about this fraternity? That's total bs. I pulled out
(34:47):
way early on that already ad libbed that whole role.
Is that true? He had to how many years? Band
about one for every topic here on this Potato bar
on classic. All right, we'll do it again next week, Patrise,
We appreciate the great Patrick Vegas. All right, it's coming
(35:09):
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starting in the great state of Florida. For a first
(36:53):
news story, seven year old man is charged with attempted
murder after stabbing another and over a bottle of cologne. Now,
unfortunately the article it does not say what fragrance it was.
It's unfortunate, but using a metal pool and a knife. Uh,
(37:13):
this gentleman attacked for their victim. Here's the crazy part. Uh,
this particular individual, he's already served a combined thirty years
in prison and was recently released in May. I mean,
I can't imagine. I guess at that point I spent
so much time. He's just very particular about his fragrances. Yeah, Like, well,
(37:33):
if we had to guess, like what what is worth
this crime? Like what's worth of stabbing? I don't know. Mambo.
Here's the crazy. Well, mambos, what you wear? That's your france?
Well what do you what do you wear? What's your cologne? Disclose?
I like it, okay, and I won't tell you mine either.
(37:54):
You are it's mombo. We were talking about not confirming that.
So good. I'm worry about it all right. Worse moving on,
there's a social media story. He teaches you how to
make a pizza out of your hotel bathroom. Really he yeah,
it's it's it's a weird deal. He even teaches you
(38:15):
how to overcome bathroom taste, as he says, but he
makes it on the counter of his hotel bathroom a pizza. Like,
how does he cooking? He used? He put he has
a pan, but he uses a hair dryer. He puts
on hot. He melts the cheese over top of the pan. Yeah,
(38:36):
it's like those hair dryers are pretty close to scalps.
And distasteful thing is the fact there's a toilet in
every single video. You can just say visible right there.
That's the only way you can ruin pizza. Just have
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