April 7, 2023 • 38 mins
Jonas, Brady and LaVar commend golfers who are honest about lining their pockets at LIV, and call out anyone who says Brooks Koepka is “built like a linebacker.” Odds sway back to Even for Bryce Young and CJ Stroud go first overall in the Draft. Plus an Easter edition of “You In or Out?”
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The way tire buying should be. By the way, I
was going to mention this to you guys. I don't
want to catch you off guard. I don't want anybody
to be surprised by this or alarmed. But it's a
football Friday. Yeah, yeah, come on day, yeah, tiger Wood,
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it is. It is a football Friday. Area. As he
is on Fox Sports Radio here on two pros and
a cup of Joe, It's a football Friday. And so,
of course on a football Friday, it makes all the
sense in the world to start with the Masters. I mean,
why wouldn't we start with the Masters. The far hop
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on this piano stool, start banging away because we've got
the Masters, the azaleas, all the other fun stuff. The
fake bird noises, and we start with a heartwarming tale
at the Masters, a man like Harold Varner. Harold Varner,
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who is certainly sitting at even par teeing off later
this hour, tied for thirty seventh that AUGUSTA National You're
probably thinking of yourselves, why are we starting with the
guy who's tied for thirty seventh? Of his name is
in Tiger Woods. Well, it's because Harold Varner had the
quote of all quotes in an interview with the Washington Post.
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Harold Varner, who was one of the eighteen golfers playing
at the Masters who defected to go to the Live
Tour for a reported fifteen million dollars signing bonus. Now,
the exact number of the contract we don't know, but
we do know the signing bonus, and it was fifteen
million dollars when he made the decision and August Harold
Varner said, quote, the truth is, my life is changing.
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The opportunity to join Live golf is simply too good
of a financial breakthrough for me to pass by. I
know what it means to grow up without much. This
money is going to ensure that my kid and future
of Varners will have a solid base to start on.
Your opinion of me may change because of this announcement. No, lie,
that'll be a tough thing to deal with. But I
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haven't changed. I'm still me, I promise you that. Now.
He did speak with the Washington Post, and he's talked
with the Washington Post about some of the comments made
by Live golfers who said they left to go to
the live tour to grow the game, and the very
heartwarming Harold Varner said the following quote, They're full of bleep.
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They're growing their pockets. I tell them all the time,
all of them. You didn't come here to effing grow
the fffing game. End quote. So a little bit of
brutal honesty from Harold Varner and his fifteen million dollars
he took from the live are well, honestly is what
it is. I mean, that's the reality of it. You know,
he's not afraid to say it. Other people obviously afraid
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to say it. Um. The hard thing about the decision
a lot of these people made is, you know, there's
a there's a moral or ethical consideration because of where
the money's coming from. Right, it's the Saudi backed Live
Golf Tour, and it's it's backed by the Saudi uh
govern Sovereign Fund, which a lot of people will tie
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that back to nine to eleven and where some of
the funds came from for you know that the terrorist
attacks that occurred, and there's a lot of people who've
you know, are very frustrated and saddened and angered by
the decision for these players to do it. Because of
that um and and so if you if you stripped
that away and then you just look at it purely
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from a financial sense. For these individuals, you know, it's
it's a good deal for them. They get guaranteed in
a sport that doesn't offer that, at least not until
a lot of these guys moved on to the Live
Golf Tour, and that came about before you now start
to see the PGA Tour start to take care of
guys and at least give them a minimum amount or
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like a salary they'll get, you know, throughout the year.
I mean, it's the only sport you could think of
where you could show up for work every single weekend
and not make anything if you do. If you're on
the PGA Tour and you don't make a cut outside
of your sponsorships, which is largely probably paying for you
and your caddies travel, that's it. You know, you're not
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making very much money if anything, and it could be
a really really rough deal for you. So for some
of these players that you went over to take the money,
if you're talking about from a purely financial standpoint, you
can see why they do it. And at least he's
being honest about it. It's refreshing. You know, I don't
expect any feedback from me. I'll tell you that q
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Q and you yeah, yeah, I got this one. So now, now,
obviously the live golfers and some of the guys on
the PGA Tour have taken shots at them leaving and
going there, and it's been very controversial for everybody involved.
Varner did though, he spoke with The Washington Post about
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just sort of how the PGA Tour is upset that
live golf maybe cutting into their bottom line, and he
said the following, They're just mad that you're effing with
their money. I think some people are jealous, and that's
just the way it is. The tour has made it
where they say it's not about the money. I don't
care what anyone says. It's about the damn money. And also,
I think some of the golfers on the PGA Tour
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have probably changed their tune a little bit. Was it
Rory McElroy, Who's who's softened up a little bit, because
I think they've all acknowledged, you know, the fact that
there was competition kind of made us change the way
we do things, and didn't they add in a little
bit like the winnings and some of the money that
was available at the PGA Tour actually grew because of
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Live Golf. So it's not like Live Golf just went in,
took a bunch and said screw you guys in the
PGA store and PGA Tour just stood their ground and
said no, no, no, we're gonna do it our way
and we're gonna keep tradition. They did it just and
I think part of that was the pressure they felt
from the Live Tour as well too, So there's that.
That's always the fun stuff here. So no comments of
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bar Arrington on the tour. You know, I'll just say
I am a patriot and I do love America. I
love everything about us, say even the ugly, because you know,
you can't have the good without having the bad. And
you know, as it applies to golf, you know, those
those who took umbradge with with the Live Tour and
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people who signed with it, I mean, it's it's understandable
why people will be offended by because of things that
it's connected to. So just kind of what I would
go with. That's but in terms of having an opinion
about the sport itself. You know. I just say I
like the courses. I like the clubhouses. I like the
drinks and the food and the golf carting around and
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the banter between friends. And that's about it. Yeah, I mean,
it's as far as I go with it. Your point
was well taken, as you know, when it came to
live Golf, and just sort of the background and the
controversy there and um like Brooks kept go. For example,
he's part of the Live Tour, and I believe that
is Oh yeah, that's the Lavars guy. Brooks kep guy
from a hat leading Just keep that man, okay from
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my hat? All right, that's my guy. That's my pick.
That was drawn randomly when when he was as as
good as anyone in his prime. Now he had a
knee injury as well too, so he's kind of coming
back from that. Does like a linebacker. I was just
gonna say, it doesn't quite look like the linebacker everyone
build him out to be right. I thought I would
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take a fence like I would have taken at all. No,
not even close. I mean, it's disrespectful to all I'm backers,
it really is. I agree. I just I wish there
was a contingent of linebackers. You took it up with
a PGA back when they were saying that about him.
What is Brooks kept away? If you had to guess,
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if we're talking linebackers, here a r because I might
I might have a case. I don't care what he waits.
It doesn't look like a linebacker. You could wait two
hundred and forty pounds and be a golfer. That doesn't
mean you're gonna look like a linebacker. Nice two oh five. Damn,
I was gonna say. I thought he was one eighty
five and I waited in yesterday at one ninety two,
So I was like, damn, that could have been. So
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maybe I could claim that I'm a linebacker two, but
I still can't. That's unfortunate. So sorry, Lebar, I can't
join the family. It's going to be part of the
linebacker family still stick City, but it's not happening. So
Brooks kept six feet two oh five. You know you'll
get mad if I call you out on what you
just did, but I'm not gonna do it. But you know,
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it was just so passive aggressive. It was passive aggressive.
It was almost big enough to be a linebacker. No
you're not. I'm just saying if Brooks kep, why can't
I even if you were bigger, you're not, Like, didn't
you just hear what it's jes it? You could be
into two hundred pound range and still not look like
an lb. That's right. Who's the smallest linebacker you ever
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played with? Maybe Dexter Cokeley? He's pretty small. And what
was his though? Let's see what the Dexter Cokely. And
that's kind of my greater point is let's say Dexter
was two twenty. These dudes are jacked like to the gills,
like there's no comparison. There is no comparison. Dexter Cokely
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was five ten two thirty six. I mean that's like
a little one. Yeah, that is like that's like a
Dura cell. Which one's the D battery, the D battery
battery right, like a battery. There's no neck, all right.
They got this head that sits on top of it,
like the was that the positive portion of the battery, right,
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the positive that's like their head, no neck, just straight
broad shoulders. Whyam I look up Joe Maze I got
to play with Joe Mason Denver. He hits someone so
hard on an on side kick, and I can promise
you eleven two. He's got a neck like a tree truck.
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Joe was so yoked up. I'm sure he still is
to this day because Joe had that mental He's just
he worked hard, man, He lifted hard. He hit this
dude so hard to an onside kick, because like that's
what people don't understand. But on side kicks, okay, there
is one dude on the receiving team who's designated to
catch it, and then there's one dude on the kicking
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team that's designated to knock that dude out, and everyone
else who's lined up across from each other, they're just
there to see if they can't knock the other dude out.
Like it is as old school football as it gets,
which is probably the reason why they're trying to get
rid of the play. But Joe hit this guy across
from him. He wasn't the dude, you know, trying to
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hit the guy receiving. He was on the front lines.
He was just trying to take someone out. He hit
him so damn hard. I remember why, I would you
know quarterbacks stayed in special teams meetings for like field
goal pat and so we'd always kind of be in
there to watch some of the stuff, even though we'd
be like taking notes talking about something else. He hit.
He hit someone so hard we were playing in Kansas City.
It literally knocked the player. He swayed from one end
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of the screen, like watching from the All twenty twos,
from one end of the screen out of the frame,
and then swayed back the other way across the stream
and just dropped. Like I'd never seen someone get hit
that hard and like keep their feet for that long
and then swayed that far before being dropped. It would
have been like a boxer taken like a hook to
the head and then walking around the ring stumbling and
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then finally dropping. It was but that that's a linebacker apparently.
So I brought up London Fletcher. I remember my I
want to say, my rookie year. We played and it
was still the greatest show on turf, and he was
in the wedge, so it's kind of it was a
special team's deal. And I was on kickoff and in
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college I made my reputation off of blowing people up
on kickoff, like blowing up wedges and stuff like that.
So I was going towards the wedge. I was the five.
I was on the hash marks. I'm going down the
hash and I see London Fletcher lights London Fletcher. I
am about to destroy him, like I am going to
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I am going to assassinate smooth criminal style London Fletcher.
I'm about to get him. I'm I'm dialed in. He
sees me, I see him, We are about to do it.
I get to him and hit him with all my might. Boom,
and I'm gonna hold on. Wait, wait, wait a second,
Why am I? Why am I going down? Like? I
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couldn't feel my legs. I couldn't like everything went numb,
and he was standing there. He was still like and
then ran off. I don't know, I don't know what happened,
but but he didn't go down. I didn't blow him up,
and I fell down, And that was when I realized,
Like there were a few things that helped you to
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realize that you're not dealing with college guys anymore, and
you're not playing at the college, like when people say
that you have transitioned and it's different and you have
to adjust and adapt. There were a few moments and
that was one of them. And it was a very
humbling experience, to say the least. I thought I was
about to knock him like five six seven yards in
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the air back into the ball carrier like in the movies,
like how I did it in college, and he went
not only did he not go anywhere, but I went
to the ground, and I mean like couldn't couldn't not
go like I went to the ground. So that that
I mean, yeah, five two A lot of punch and
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that that that little body. I'll tell you that to
be careful and what it would be careful. London Fletcher
played sixteen years Jesus, Yeah, and still isn't in the
Hall of Fame. Yeah, you know, linebackers are one thing too.
Then you go to fullbacks and like that, you know
when you're talking about certain fullbacks and I don't know why,
oh Lorenzo Nil, Like there's dudes like though, yeah, like
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that was his only job was to you ack you
up like linebacker stuff like cover and rush to other things.
You I mean, you could be jack, but you still
got pretty athletic. Like if when the old school fullbacks gash. Yeah,
you could speak to a LaVar like those dudes just
they were trying to they were trying to kill you. Yeah, yeah,
Lorenzo Nil was was an animal. So it was Gash,
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Gash and nil they were and they were Yeah, they
were animals. Was that the worst part of playing linebacker?
Or would you rather would you rather face a pulling
guard or tackle or would you have rather gone up
against a fullback with a full head of steam? Oh
that that hurts more hitting a full a fullback leg
zo and and they're like, yeah, that hurts more. What
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about Ironhead Hayward? I never played against five eleven two
sixty Cam Hayward's dad loved Ironhead back in the day.
That little thingy remember he did the little Lufa commercial
when Lufa's just came out. I think, commercial, man, you
gotta find a commercial Mannadywards commercial calling it a little thing.
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Little thing he was like in the shower. He was
a commercial shower. Really. Yes, Oh that's uh interesting. I
didn't know that. So so there it is. We go
live to are I've got an update on Ironheads Lufa
commercial insider lead to laughter the latest League. I am
watching it currently. It's with the little thing I mean,
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I mean trying I will roll this, will that we'll
get better sound say, yes he is nailed Van LaVar
what a memory. Look at that your guy Brooks Keepka's
leading the masters. Do you remember in Lufa commercials He's
gonna have himself a weekend man, but you're gonna have
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your up bar. It's Easter. It's Easters. You know. I'm
gonna man, little prime rib um. I'm gonna make the
wife some salmon today. I'm gonna make some salmon. Yeah,
pretty good. I mean it's some prime rib like an
easter thing or is it ham? I don't know. I mean,
if you really want to dive into like the whole
like Crucifixion and stuff, I mean the ribs kind of
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some ballic. It's kind of interesting you bring up prime rib.
I wasn't even thinking that. Yeah, it's kind yeah, well,
I mean, you know you can't have the little thing.
You can't have I've heard that many times. You can't
have uh meat obviously today you know you gotta go fish,
so fish, you gotta be Hey, what's wrong with you?
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What do you mean talking about? It is two pros
and a cup of Joe Box Sports Radio LaVar Rington,
Brady Quinn Jonas Knox with the all right, it's coming
up next, we may have ourselves a little bit of
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at the top of the NFL Draft coming up later
on this month. There's been a change, so we will
get into that for you here on FSR. SO LaVar
Arrington with the Poll of All polls somehow mentioned and
remembered that Craig Ironhead Hayward was part of a soap
commercial back in the day where he's using a loofa
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in the shower lot there, and we did find that,
we did find the commercial. What was the quote from
the commercial? You said, what's with this thingy. Okay, so
let's see how accurate his memory is. This is Craig Ironett.
A word challenge you, and I challenge you to try
death the ordering body wash. Now I hear you snickering,
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but I ain't hit. Aren't body washes for ladies? Listen?
Chump z doesn't have heavy moisturizers, but I ain't hit.
What's with this thingy? Body wash? To give you twice
the press smelling lad refresh period? Body wash? Well done?
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There you the little thing? What's with this little thingy?
By the way, who uses just a bar soap anymore?
Doesn't everybody use a loofa? I don't know how old
is that commercial? That's old? That's what I'm wondering, Like,
how old were you when you first saw it? Ninety seven?
That was no way, it's got to be older than
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ninety seven. No, No, ninety seven sounds about right. I
was a school yeah, huh, yeah, ninety seven. He wasn't
that much older than than me. Yeah, he wasn't that
much older than me? Yeah, ninety seven? Right? And his
sons are doing well. Cam Hayward, great career, Connors on
the h is he still on the Steelers? That Connor
Haywood's still on the Scientea. Yeah yeah so they yeah,
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they good careers for both of them, and the great
Greg Ironhead Hayward filming a soap commercial in the late nineties.
Who knew? Who knew? But it is football Friday, so
I think that works all right. So we do have
ourselves a little bit of a change. Albert Brier hinted
it this yesterday and c J. Strout has been the
overwhelming favorite to go number one overall for several a
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couple of weeks now, ever since the trade that Carolina
made to move up to number one, been telling you
it's going to say minus three sixty, so well over
a three to one favorite. Right after that trade happened,
and now Albert Breer was starting to get the feeling
that Bryce Young was the guy that was going to
go number one, which is completely the opposite of what
the betting market would say. And in a matter of hours, CJ.
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Stroud's odds are closer now to even money at minus
one thirty, with Bryce Young sitting at even money to
go number one overall. You guys tried to warn me,
tried to tell me, tried to say there was the
potential of this. I said there was no possible way.
There was too much movement. And as it stands right now,
Bryce Young is making up some ground, really picking up
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steam on the number one overall pick. So there it is.
Maybe the Carolina Panthers aren't going to go CJ. Stroud.
I think I might have screwed this one up. So
I want to apologize to you guys if I gave
out any bad betting advice. That's normally not what I do,
but I would like to apologize just in case I
happen to do that to you guys. I mean, why
would you believe anything right now? We talked about this
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the other day, Like the odds for that Josh Allen
Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Lamar Jackson class, you know, all
that flipped the day of the draft. You can go
through countless years where you can't trust the odds. The
odds are just kind of building there, obviously for the
books to get money in. So I I mean, I've said,
and I stand by this, Bryce Young is the best
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quarterback in this draft class. If you didn't have the
element of his weight, it's not even his height. By
the way people can look past his height. They did
with Kyler Murray, they have with other quarterbacks who are
five eleven or six feet tall. You know, Russell Wilson
wasn't a first round pick. He was a third round pick,
but no one talks about his height nowadays. The concern
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with Bryce Young is his weight. Some people have said
they thought he played last year one seventy nine. What really, Yeah,
I mean again, this is all reports, rumors. It's hard
to trust anything. The only thing we know is what
he weight in at at the combine, and that was
almost identical to I believe what Kyler Murray weighed in that. Yeah,
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and he didn't do anything there, which is perfectly fine.
But a lot of people feel like he didn't do
anything there because he was going to go back to
his pro day. He didn't weigh in his pro day
because he was going to drop the weight, be a
little more fluid, move around throwing. So again, I don't
have an issue with his size. I think he's a
rarity at the position with the way he anticipates his throws,
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the accuracy that he uses his football IQ. I mean,
you just you can tell he understands exactly what he's
doing at every moment. He plays with so much poise
and confidence even under pressure, and he protects himself. He's
not the type of a guy that runs around and
subjects his body to a bunch of hits, and he
gets the ball in his hand quick. So you know,
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I look at him and I say again, without the
issue of really the weight, not even the height and
today's game, like, we wouldn't be having any concerns. He
would be the number one and it would be case
closed like that to Carolina trade up to take the
hard part right now is just you cannot tell what
a team's going to do. And you know, Andrew Richardson,
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to me, has the most upside. Like if that dude,
you know, can can put together some of the stuff
you see on tape from him at Florida, he's gonna
be the best quarterback in this draft class. But that
takes a lot for an order for that to happen.
It takes an organization that gives him the stability and
has the patience and surrounds them with the right pieces
and has a play caller that plays to his skill set,
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because his running ability is part of his skill set,
and they have to incorporate some of that too, and
even the way they go about designing pass plays, so
how he sees the field, Like I always feel like
a young guy like him there's always started one year
and doesn't have a ton of experience. You know, you
make everything what we would call a pure progression. So
you got five eligible guys out on routes one, two, three, four, five,
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So that's that's kind of like, you know, the simplest
read you can have for a quarterback. It doesn't matter
what the defense is doing. You look at number one,
is the open note, move on to number two, then
move on to number three. In the NFL, you most
likely don't have a chance to get to four and five.
Or once you start knowing what you're looking at, you
can eliminate two and three because those routes aren't going
to be open versus that coverage, and then you go
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to four and five. So it's that's the simplest thing
to do with a guy like that, But you don't
have to with CJ. Stroud or Bryce Young like those
guys are bill ready to play day one, you know,
going in and being the guy. So I don't know
which direction they're going to go, but ultimately I still
think Bryce Young is the most impressive watching the past
two years, and Anthony Richardson is the favorite at close
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to three to one to be the third quarterback selected.
And I'm just I wonder, to me, it's all about
number three when it comes to the Cardinals. It's all
about what happens with that spot. Did they stay there
or who jumps up to Because if Anthony Richardson is
the guy in Indiana app is just sitting there at
for is Indianapolis going to get jumped again for somebody
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going after Anthony Richardson? And I wonder who that team
would be, whether it would be the Raiders or somebody
else maybe picking lower in the draft. But it feels
to me like the third pick with the Arizona Cardinals
is the one to really watch. And I wonder how
many teams are thinking about moving up there because Arizona God, well,
I'm just saying Arizona is obviously now picking picking a quarterback.
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You would assume they've got Kyler Murray there, he's coming
off the injury. So are they going to stay put
and go with Will Anderson or who's going to jump
into that spot? And I'm just wondering who those teams
are that are considering it. And I was about to
say that makes it's it's such a curious position with
Arizona just because of all of the internal things that
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are going on, like what's the focus right now? You know,
in terms of are you going to make the right decision?
Are you? Are you operating at a high level? You know?
Are you are you? Are you prepared for this moment?
And I'll be interested to see what they do because
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you can ultimately bring in a guy that can turn
around and change the fortunes of your team through the draft.
I mean, if we're going to keep the things, you know,
kind of the same in terms of memory and long ago,
mean Joe Green was the catalyst for Chuck Noll and
the Pittsburgh Steelers changing the fortunes of that team. You know,
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they were a pretty pretty average team until they drafted
mean Joe. So and I'm not saying that Carter is
a mean Joe Green, but who's to say he isn't.
I mean, he has done some things that could be
considered to be well mean. So so like like I'm
too mean to be in shape for my come my
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pro day, you know, I'm too I'm too mean to
stop in and it could have been waterway. Maybe it's
just trying to hydrate himself and he overdid it, you
know what I mean. But he was nice enough to
return back to the scene. But yeah, Anyway, the point
is is that he does have the potential to be
a talent that that actually could be the catalyst of change.
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And if the quarterback is what he's supposed to be,
if you have some of the other elements involved that
they're supposed to be what they're supposed to be, you
could go from being almost like a laughing stock of
a team to a real contender. So I'm interested to
see what Arizona does. Is there a chance Hendon Hooker
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could go in the first round? All right? I mean
there's one hundred percent a chance he could. There's there's
a lot of things you got a factor in though.
He's coming off a twentycl So if you're taking him
the first round, you'd like him to play at some
point sign probably his rookie year, and if he can't
because of the injury, that could be one of those
(29:00):
deals where you see a team say I'd rather pick
a guy who I know is going to come in
day one, be there for OTAs in mini camp, training camp,
and we're gonna be able to evaluate him and start
him and potentially get you know, something back for him.
So that's that's part of the consideration. But from everything
that I've heard from talking about him and then watching
him on tape, he's a tremendous young man. He interviews
(29:22):
incredibly well. He's got a high football IQ, high character,
good leader. The concerns are, you know, the injury, which
I just had mentioned, and then the offense. You know,
there's not too many players who run the type of
offense like Tennessee does where you have these really wide splits.
It's somewhat simplified to a degree in what you're asking
(29:42):
the receivers and the offense to do, and it helps
really spread out the field to create bigger throwing lanes.
Now it to me, it's almost as similar discussion as
you have with CJ. Stroud. People will sit there and say, well,
you know, he's thrown to first round wide receiver verse,
he's throw into some of the guys that are some
of the best receivers that have ever played college football
(30:04):
at Ohio State, and so these guys are wide open.
They've got you know, two three yards of cushing on guys,
that's not hard to do well. Someone still has to
make those throws. And so even though Jalen Hyatt right,
and Cedric Tillman and some of other talented receivers you know,
could get separation and get open and you know we're
wide open at times, hookers still mid all the throws.
He did exactly what he was supposed to do. So
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I don't have as big of an issue with the
style of offense that Tennessee runs and that holding things back.
It just takes a little bit more in the evaluation process. Unfortunately,
because the injury, you don't get those private workouts. You
could sit them down and have private meetings and visits
with them, but that's the extent. So there's one hundred
percent chance he could go in the first round, but
(30:49):
there's also, I put you know, a potential chance that
he slides to the second, you know, depending on how
people view that injury and how people are are maybe
looking at the all of offense and some of the
production that he put up, and how long it may
take him to transition to an NFL style offense. All Right,
So we're gonna put a bow on this bad boy.
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of Joe one enough If they're in, yeah please four
if they're out, all right, lead to lap. What do
we got guys? It is a good Friday on top
of a football Friday, meaning Sunday's Easter. So I have
a few Easter traditions. I want to run by you guys,
see if you're in or out on them. Number one others,
of course, is pictures with the Easter Bunny at the mall.
(32:41):
You guys in or out on that. I'm like as
a kid or you talking about it's like an adult.
You could make it a twofold. You know, I'm in out.
I'm out now. I was probably in as a kid.
I will ask this of all the different people who
you take a photo without the mall, Santa Claus, the
Easter Bunny, whoever else after that? I always feel like
(33:03):
the Easter bunny ones are there because you never get
to see their face. Yeah, well, I got a story
for you. This is cerebral, dude. This is why I'm out,
so simple, this is why I'm out on taking a
picture with the Easter bunny. Thousand Oaks mall. As a kid,
I remember seeing the Easter Bunny walk into the back
(33:24):
hall and I didn't really he was on break or
something and the door was slow to close behind him.
He's literally sitting on a bench. He took his head off,
and he's got a lung dart in. Yeah, and I'm thinking, wait,
hold on a second. And then, you know, my mom
had to tell me, well, yeah, that's not the real
Easter Bunny. He's just pretending the real Easter Bunny's busy
(33:46):
right now. I said, okay, well that makes some sense,
but that guy's still got a you know, a mouth
heater in and he's pretending to be a giant stuffed rabbit.
Just it's so ruined it for me. So when I
see the Easter Bunny at the mall, I'm out completely,
you guys. I mean, I'm just sitting there like, oh,
it's the Easter Bunny. Like, let's take a picture. What
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is going on underneath the Easter Bunny? Hell yeah, you
don't want to know that. I mean, I just don't
even be going that deep with it, like he's here, Okay,
it could even be a woman, Like I don't even
know that it's a woman. Under there, like Buddy could
be a woman this way, imagine you were the rat
at Chucky Cheese. Like you have to have never wondered
who was underneath the rat hit Okay, but I have
(34:30):
because I'm always like, who wants to do that job?
Like you could be doing another job, but I have
to be the rat? Yeah, que I have thought who
wants to be the rat? Yeah? I just never thought
who is it underneath? Like I want to know what
they look like like? Probably because things like if you
choose to be that, like you chose to be that,
(34:51):
there must be still more there. Whoever was probably jacked,
I mean just tore up from the floor up off. Yes,
can you not elaborate on jeez, I didn't know I
was actually signing up to do that full time. How
do you not know? Because they said it was They
said everybody took turns having to get into costume and
(35:13):
and majority of the job was cleaning up birthday party
until they sold me. This is my point. Then the
Easter Bunny, they're not in like, hey you can. You're
not gonna do this full time. When you signed to
the Easter Bunny, you're signing up to put your walk
around wig or your tail, put your little you know,
cap on and all that. You remember when you could
smoke in malls though I don't. You don't remember there
(35:35):
was like smoking sections. Yeah, you could smoke in the
mall and in the restaurant everything. Yeah, so you could smoke.
This is wow. You could smoke on an airplane. Yeah,
they still have They still have the no smoking signs
on airplanes, which I don't understand. Who the hell's lighting
up on an airplane. You could smoke in the airport,
(35:56):
like walking to your gate. You could smoke. Like our
world has like changed, like leaps and bounds. Man, I
feel bad. Man. Cigarettes was the king cigarettes in age? Well,
you had ash trays in your seat back in the
day all airplanes welded shut. Now yeah, guys, today in
(36:20):
the UK you could get a free Cadbury subway melt
sand which I sent you a picture of this yesterday.
Looks absolutely revolting. I get sick thinking about it. I'm out, Yeah,
I'm out. A lot of people thought this was an
April Fool's joke. It is not. Thankfully they're giving it
up for free. I don't even I wouldn't taken for either.
But yeah, I wouldn't even take it for free, like
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it looks horrible. Guys hunt hunting for Easter eggs? What's
better hunting for them as a kid or hiding them
as an adult? Definitely as an adult. For me, I'm
in on the adult hiding. I don't know. I love
watching the kids run after them, like find them. They
gets so happy, you know, especially either like I laugh
when I can't though wrong with you, they running back
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and forth, like they running back. They start to realize
that they can't find them. They start to realize they can't.
That's kind of funny to be bad, I say, as
a kid, that was more fun as a kid. Yeah, guys,
I saw an adult version where instead of an ee
streak basket you're giving a six pack empty six pack holder,
and it's hidden beers and a little little whiskey bottles
(37:26):
and whatnot. White kid Todd, Yeah, Todd. I think we're
gonna make this a tradition. Yeah, oh my god, I
don't know where I'm going to get married. You do
know that, right, It's just like, come on, man, we
saw Mario yesterday. Gay did not drink for forty five minutes.
You know how that go yesterday. It was it was whatever. Yeah,
(37:47):
I figured, but I was hanging with Todd. The hanging
is good. The hanging. The hanging was great. Yeah. Man,
I know, movie not so much. Set with you, dog.
I'll probably held hands in the movie. Got wrong. Hollow East,
Hollow chocolate bunnies, inter out out Okay here you can
need something in the middle. Yeah, you can't have just
(38:09):
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was going to mention this to you guys. I don't
want to catch you off guard. I don't want anybody
to be surprised by this or alarmed. But it's a
football Friday. Yeah, yeah, come on day, yeah, tiger Wood,
(01:35):
it is. It is a football Friday. Area. As he
is on Fox Sports Radio here on two pros and
a cup of Joe, It's a football Friday. And so,
of course on a football Friday, it makes all the
sense in the world to start with the Masters. I mean,
why wouldn't we start with the Masters. The far hop
(01:57):
on this piano stool, start banging away because we've got
the Masters, the azaleas, all the other fun stuff. The
fake bird noises, and we start with a heartwarming tale
at the Masters, a man like Harold Varner. Harold Varner,
(02:20):
who is certainly sitting at even par teeing off later
this hour, tied for thirty seventh that AUGUSTA National You're
probably thinking of yourselves, why are we starting with the
guy who's tied for thirty seventh? Of his name is
in Tiger Woods. Well, it's because Harold Varner had the
quote of all quotes in an interview with the Washington Post.
(02:41):
Harold Varner, who was one of the eighteen golfers playing
at the Masters who defected to go to the Live
Tour for a reported fifteen million dollars signing bonus. Now,
the exact number of the contract we don't know, but
we do know the signing bonus, and it was fifteen
million dollars when he made the decision and August Harold
Varner said, quote, the truth is, my life is changing.
(03:04):
The opportunity to join Live golf is simply too good
of a financial breakthrough for me to pass by. I
know what it means to grow up without much. This
money is going to ensure that my kid and future
of Varners will have a solid base to start on.
Your opinion of me may change because of this announcement. No, lie,
that'll be a tough thing to deal with. But I
(03:25):
haven't changed. I'm still me, I promise you that. Now.
He did speak with the Washington Post, and he's talked
with the Washington Post about some of the comments made
by Live golfers who said they left to go to
the live tour to grow the game, and the very
heartwarming Harold Varner said the following quote, They're full of bleep.
(03:47):
They're growing their pockets. I tell them all the time,
all of them. You didn't come here to effing grow
the fffing game. End quote. So a little bit of
brutal honesty from Harold Varner and his fifteen million dollars
he took from the live are well, honestly is what
it is. I mean, that's the reality of it. You know,
he's not afraid to say it. Other people obviously afraid
(04:09):
to say it. Um. The hard thing about the decision
a lot of these people made is, you know, there's
a there's a moral or ethical consideration because of where
the money's coming from. Right, it's the Saudi backed Live
Golf Tour, and it's it's backed by the Saudi uh
govern Sovereign Fund, which a lot of people will tie
(04:31):
that back to nine to eleven and where some of
the funds came from for you know that the terrorist
attacks that occurred, and there's a lot of people who've
you know, are very frustrated and saddened and angered by
the decision for these players to do it. Because of
that um and and so if you if you stripped
that away and then you just look at it purely
(04:53):
from a financial sense. For these individuals, you know, it's
it's a good deal for them. They get guaranteed in
a sport that doesn't offer that, at least not until
a lot of these guys moved on to the Live
Golf Tour, and that came about before you now start
to see the PGA Tour start to take care of
guys and at least give them a minimum amount or
(05:13):
like a salary they'll get, you know, throughout the year.
I mean, it's the only sport you could think of
where you could show up for work every single weekend
and not make anything if you do. If you're on
the PGA Tour and you don't make a cut outside
of your sponsorships, which is largely probably paying for you
and your caddies travel, that's it. You know, you're not
(05:34):
making very much money if anything, and it could be
a really really rough deal for you. So for some
of these players that you went over to take the money,
if you're talking about from a purely financial standpoint, you
can see why they do it. And at least he's
being honest about it. It's refreshing. You know, I don't
expect any feedback from me. I'll tell you that q
(05:57):
Q and you yeah, yeah, I got this one. So now, now,
obviously the live golfers and some of the guys on
the PGA Tour have taken shots at them leaving and
going there, and it's been very controversial for everybody involved.
Varner did though, he spoke with The Washington Post about
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just sort of how the PGA Tour is upset that
live golf maybe cutting into their bottom line, and he
said the following, They're just mad that you're effing with
their money. I think some people are jealous, and that's
just the way it is. The tour has made it
where they say it's not about the money. I don't
care what anyone says. It's about the damn money. And also,
I think some of the golfers on the PGA Tour
(06:38):
have probably changed their tune a little bit. Was it
Rory McElroy, Who's who's softened up a little bit, because
I think they've all acknowledged, you know, the fact that
there was competition kind of made us change the way
we do things, and didn't they add in a little
bit like the winnings and some of the money that
was available at the PGA Tour actually grew because of
(06:59):
Live Golf. So it's not like Live Golf just went in,
took a bunch and said screw you guys in the
PGA store and PGA Tour just stood their ground and
said no, no, no, we're gonna do it our way
and we're gonna keep tradition. They did it just and
I think part of that was the pressure they felt
from the Live Tour as well too, So there's that.
That's always the fun stuff here. So no comments of
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bar Arrington on the tour. You know, I'll just say
I am a patriot and I do love America. I
love everything about us, say even the ugly, because you know,
you can't have the good without having the bad. And
you know, as it applies to golf, you know, those
those who took umbradge with with the Live Tour and
(07:43):
people who signed with it, I mean, it's it's understandable
why people will be offended by because of things that
it's connected to. So just kind of what I would
go with. That's but in terms of having an opinion
about the sport itself. You know. I just say I
like the courses. I like the clubhouses. I like the
drinks and the food and the golf carting around and
(08:06):
the banter between friends. And that's about it. Yeah, I mean,
it's as far as I go with it. Your point
was well taken, as you know, when it came to
live Golf, and just sort of the background and the
controversy there and um like Brooks kept go. For example,
he's part of the Live Tour, and I believe that
is Oh yeah, that's the Lavars guy. Brooks kep guy
from a hat leading Just keep that man, okay from
(08:28):
my hat? All right, that's my guy. That's my pick.
That was drawn randomly when when he was as as
good as anyone in his prime. Now he had a
knee injury as well too, so he's kind of coming
back from that. Does like a linebacker. I was just
gonna say, it doesn't quite look like the linebacker everyone
build him out to be right. I thought I would
(08:50):
take a fence like I would have taken at all. No,
not even close. I mean, it's disrespectful to all I'm backers,
it really is. I agree. I just I wish there
was a contingent of linebackers. You took it up with
a PGA back when they were saying that about him.
What is Brooks kept away? If you had to guess,
(09:10):
if we're talking linebackers, here a r because I might
I might have a case. I don't care what he waits.
It doesn't look like a linebacker. You could wait two
hundred and forty pounds and be a golfer. That doesn't
mean you're gonna look like a linebacker. Nice two oh five. Damn,
I was gonna say. I thought he was one eighty
five and I waited in yesterday at one ninety two,
So I was like, damn, that could have been. So
(09:31):
maybe I could claim that I'm a linebacker two, but
I still can't. That's unfortunate. So sorry, Lebar, I can't
join the family. It's going to be part of the
linebacker family still stick City, but it's not happening. So
Brooks kept six feet two oh five. You know you'll
get mad if I call you out on what you
just did, but I'm not gonna do it. But you know,
(09:51):
it was just so passive aggressive. It was passive aggressive.
It was almost big enough to be a linebacker. No
you're not. I'm just saying if Brooks kep, why can't
I even if you were bigger, you're not, Like, didn't
you just hear what it's jes it? You could be
into two hundred pound range and still not look like
an lb. That's right. Who's the smallest linebacker you ever
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played with? Maybe Dexter Cokeley? He's pretty small. And what
was his though? Let's see what the Dexter Cokely. And
that's kind of my greater point is let's say Dexter
was two twenty. These dudes are jacked like to the gills,
like there's no comparison. There is no comparison. Dexter Cokely
(10:32):
was five ten two thirty six. I mean that's like
a little one. Yeah, that is like that's like a
Dura cell. Which one's the D battery, the D battery
battery right, like a battery. There's no neck, all right.
They got this head that sits on top of it,
like the was that the positive portion of the battery, right,
(10:53):
the positive that's like their head, no neck, just straight
broad shoulders. Whyam I look up Joe Maze I got
to play with Joe Mason Denver. He hits someone so
hard on an on side kick, and I can promise
you eleven two. He's got a neck like a tree truck.
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Joe was so yoked up. I'm sure he still is
to this day because Joe had that mental He's just
he worked hard, man, He lifted hard. He hit this
dude so hard to an onside kick, because like that's
what people don't understand. But on side kicks, okay, there
is one dude on the receiving team who's designated to
catch it, and then there's one dude on the kicking
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team that's designated to knock that dude out, and everyone
else who's lined up across from each other, they're just
there to see if they can't knock the other dude out.
Like it is as old school football as it gets,
which is probably the reason why they're trying to get
rid of the play. But Joe hit this guy across
from him. He wasn't the dude, you know, trying to
(11:59):
hit the guy receiving. He was on the front lines.
He was just trying to take someone out. He hit
him so damn hard. I remember why, I would you
know quarterbacks stayed in special teams meetings for like field
goal pat and so we'd always kind of be in
there to watch some of the stuff, even though we'd
be like taking notes talking about something else. He hit.
He hit someone so hard we were playing in Kansas City.
It literally knocked the player. He swayed from one end
(12:22):
of the screen, like watching from the All twenty twos,
from one end of the screen out of the frame,
and then swayed back the other way across the stream
and just dropped. Like I'd never seen someone get hit
that hard and like keep their feet for that long
and then swayed that far before being dropped. It would
have been like a boxer taken like a hook to
the head and then walking around the ring stumbling and
(12:44):
then finally dropping. It was but that that's a linebacker apparently.
So I brought up London Fletcher. I remember my I
want to say, my rookie year. We played and it
was still the greatest show on turf, and he was
in the wedge, so it's kind of it was a
special team's deal. And I was on kickoff and in
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college I made my reputation off of blowing people up
on kickoff, like blowing up wedges and stuff like that.
So I was going towards the wedge. I was the five.
I was on the hash marks. I'm going down the
hash and I see London Fletcher lights London Fletcher. I
am about to destroy him, like I am going to
(13:28):
I am going to assassinate smooth criminal style London Fletcher.
I'm about to get him. I'm I'm dialed in. He
sees me, I see him, We are about to do it.
I get to him and hit him with all my might. Boom,
and I'm gonna hold on. Wait, wait, wait a second,
Why am I? Why am I going down? Like? I
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couldn't feel my legs. I couldn't like everything went numb,
and he was standing there. He was still like and
then ran off. I don't know, I don't know what happened,
but but he didn't go down. I didn't blow him up,
and I fell down, And that was when I realized,
Like there were a few things that helped you to
(14:11):
realize that you're not dealing with college guys anymore, and
you're not playing at the college, like when people say
that you have transitioned and it's different and you have
to adjust and adapt. There were a few moments and
that was one of them. And it was a very
humbling experience, to say the least. I thought I was
about to knock him like five six seven yards in
(14:34):
the air back into the ball carrier like in the movies,
like how I did it in college, and he went
not only did he not go anywhere, but I went
to the ground, and I mean like couldn't couldn't not
go like I went to the ground. So that that
I mean, yeah, five two A lot of punch and
(14:57):
that that that little body. I'll tell you that to
be careful and what it would be careful. London Fletcher
played sixteen years Jesus, Yeah, and still isn't in the
Hall of Fame. Yeah, you know, linebackers are one thing too.
Then you go to fullbacks and like that, you know
when you're talking about certain fullbacks and I don't know why,
oh Lorenzo Nil, Like there's dudes like though, yeah, like
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that was his only job was to you ack you
up like linebacker stuff like cover and rush to other things.
You I mean, you could be jack, but you still
got pretty athletic. Like if when the old school fullbacks gash. Yeah,
you could speak to a LaVar like those dudes just
they were trying to they were trying to kill you. Yeah, yeah,
Lorenzo Nil was was an animal. So it was Gash,
(15:40):
Gash and nil they were and they were Yeah, they
were animals. Was that the worst part of playing linebacker?
Or would you rather would you rather face a pulling
guard or tackle or would you have rather gone up
against a fullback with a full head of steam? Oh
that that hurts more hitting a full a fullback leg
zo and and they're like, yeah, that hurts more. What
(16:02):
about Ironhead Hayward? I never played against five eleven two
sixty Cam Hayward's dad loved Ironhead back in the day.
That little thingy remember he did the little Lufa commercial
when Lufa's just came out. I think, commercial, man, you
gotta find a commercial Mannadywards commercial calling it a little thing.
(16:27):
Little thing he was like in the shower. He was
a commercial shower. Really. Yes, Oh that's uh interesting. I
didn't know that. So so there it is. We go
live to are I've got an update on Ironheads Lufa
commercial insider lead to laughter the latest League. I am
watching it currently. It's with the little thing I mean,
(16:50):
I mean trying I will roll this, will that we'll
get better sound say, yes he is nailed Van LaVar
what a memory. Look at that your guy Brooks Keepka's
leading the masters. Do you remember in Lufa commercials He's
gonna have himself a weekend man, but you're gonna have
(17:11):
your up bar. It's Easter. It's Easters. You know. I'm
gonna man, little prime rib um. I'm gonna make the
wife some salmon today. I'm gonna make some salmon. Yeah,
pretty good. I mean it's some prime rib like an
easter thing or is it ham? I don't know. I mean,
if you really want to dive into like the whole
like Crucifixion and stuff, I mean the ribs kind of
(17:31):
some ballic. It's kind of interesting you bring up prime rib.
I wasn't even thinking that. Yeah, it's kind yeah, well,
I mean, you know you can't have the little thing.
You can't have I've heard that many times. You can't
have uh meat obviously today you know you gotta go fish,
so fish, you gotta be Hey, what's wrong with you?
(17:53):
What do you mean talking about? It is two pros
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(18:36):
at the top of the NFL Draft coming up later
on this month. There's been a change, so we will
get into that for you here on FSR. SO LaVar
Arrington with the Poll of All polls somehow mentioned and
remembered that Craig Ironhead Hayward was part of a soap
commercial back in the day where he's using a loofa
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in the shower lot there, and we did find that,
we did find the commercial. What was the quote from
the commercial? You said, what's with this thingy. Okay, so
let's see how accurate his memory is. This is Craig Ironett.
A word challenge you, and I challenge you to try
death the ordering body wash. Now I hear you snickering,
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but I ain't hit. Aren't body washes for ladies? Listen?
Chump z doesn't have heavy moisturizers, but I ain't hit.
What's with this thingy? Body wash? To give you twice
the press smelling lad refresh period? Body wash? Well done?
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There you the little thing? What's with this little thingy?
By the way, who uses just a bar soap anymore?
Doesn't everybody use a loofa? I don't know how old
is that commercial? That's old? That's what I'm wondering, Like,
how old were you when you first saw it? Ninety seven?
That was no way, it's got to be older than
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ninety seven. No, No, ninety seven sounds about right. I
was a school yeah, huh, yeah, ninety seven. He wasn't
that much older than than me. Yeah, he wasn't that
much older than me? Yeah, ninety seven? Right? And his
sons are doing well. Cam Hayward, great career, Connors on
the h is he still on the Steelers? That Connor
Haywood's still on the Scientea. Yeah yeah so they yeah,
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they good careers for both of them, and the great
Greg Ironhead Hayward filming a soap commercial in the late nineties.
Who knew? Who knew? But it is football Friday, so
I think that works all right. So we do have
ourselves a little bit of a change. Albert Brier hinted
it this yesterday and c J. Strout has been the
overwhelming favorite to go number one overall for several a
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couple of weeks now, ever since the trade that Carolina
made to move up to number one, been telling you
it's going to say minus three sixty, so well over
a three to one favorite. Right after that trade happened,
and now Albert Breer was starting to get the feeling
that Bryce Young was the guy that was going to
go number one, which is completely the opposite of what
the betting market would say. And in a matter of hours, CJ.
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Stroud's odds are closer now to even money at minus
one thirty, with Bryce Young sitting at even money to
go number one overall. You guys tried to warn me,
tried to tell me, tried to say there was the
potential of this. I said there was no possible way.
There was too much movement. And as it stands right now,
Bryce Young is making up some ground, really picking up
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steam on the number one overall pick. So there it is.
Maybe the Carolina Panthers aren't going to go CJ. Stroud.
I think I might have screwed this one up. So
I want to apologize to you guys if I gave
out any bad betting advice. That's normally not what I do,
but I would like to apologize just in case I
happen to do that to you guys. I mean, why
would you believe anything right now? We talked about this
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the other day, Like the odds for that Josh Allen
Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Lamar Jackson class, you know, all
that flipped the day of the draft. You can go
through countless years where you can't trust the odds. The
odds are just kind of building there, obviously for the
books to get money in. So I I mean, I've said,
and I stand by this, Bryce Young is the best
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quarterback in this draft class. If you didn't have the
element of his weight, it's not even his height. By
the way people can look past his height. They did
with Kyler Murray, they have with other quarterbacks who are
five eleven or six feet tall. You know, Russell Wilson
wasn't a first round pick. He was a third round pick,
but no one talks about his height nowadays. The concern
(22:45):
with Bryce Young is his weight. Some people have said
they thought he played last year one seventy nine. What really, Yeah,
I mean again, this is all reports, rumors. It's hard
to trust anything. The only thing we know is what
he weight in at at the combine, and that was
almost identical to I believe what Kyler Murray weighed in that. Yeah,
(23:07):
and he didn't do anything there, which is perfectly fine.
But a lot of people feel like he didn't do
anything there because he was going to go back to
his pro day. He didn't weigh in his pro day
because he was going to drop the weight, be a
little more fluid, move around throwing. So again, I don't
have an issue with his size. I think he's a
rarity at the position with the way he anticipates his throws,
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the accuracy that he uses his football IQ. I mean,
you just you can tell he understands exactly what he's
doing at every moment. He plays with so much poise
and confidence even under pressure, and he protects himself. He's
not the type of a guy that runs around and
subjects his body to a bunch of hits, and he
gets the ball in his hand quick. So you know,
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I look at him and I say again, without the
issue of really the weight, not even the height and
today's game, like, we wouldn't be having any concerns. He
would be the number one and it would be case
closed like that to Carolina trade up to take the
hard part right now is just you cannot tell what
a team's going to do. And you know, Andrew Richardson,
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to me, has the most upside. Like if that dude,
you know, can can put together some of the stuff
you see on tape from him at Florida, he's gonna
be the best quarterback in this draft class. But that
takes a lot for an order for that to happen.
It takes an organization that gives him the stability and
has the patience and surrounds them with the right pieces
and has a play caller that plays to his skill set,
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because his running ability is part of his skill set,
and they have to incorporate some of that too, and
even the way they go about designing pass plays, so
how he sees the field, Like I always feel like
a young guy like him there's always started one year
and doesn't have a ton of experience. You know, you
make everything what we would call a pure progression. So
you got five eligible guys out on routes one, two, three, four, five,
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So that's that's kind of like, you know, the simplest
read you can have for a quarterback. It doesn't matter
what the defense is doing. You look at number one,
is the open note, move on to number two, then
move on to number three. In the NFL, you most
likely don't have a chance to get to four and five.
Or once you start knowing what you're looking at, you
can eliminate two and three because those routes aren't going
to be open versus that coverage, and then you go
(25:21):
to four and five. So it's that's the simplest thing
to do with a guy like that, But you don't
have to with CJ. Stroud or Bryce Young like those
guys are bill ready to play day one, you know,
going in and being the guy. So I don't know
which direction they're going to go, but ultimately I still
think Bryce Young is the most impressive watching the past
two years, and Anthony Richardson is the favorite at close
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to three to one to be the third quarterback selected.
And I'm just I wonder, to me, it's all about
number three when it comes to the Cardinals. It's all
about what happens with that spot. Did they stay there
or who jumps up to Because if Anthony Richardson is
the guy in Indiana app is just sitting there at
for is Indianapolis going to get jumped again for somebody
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going after Anthony Richardson? And I wonder who that team
would be, whether it would be the Raiders or somebody
else maybe picking lower in the draft. But it feels
to me like the third pick with the Arizona Cardinals
is the one to really watch. And I wonder how
many teams are thinking about moving up there because Arizona God, well,
I'm just saying Arizona is obviously now picking picking a quarterback.
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You would assume they've got Kyler Murray there, he's coming
off the injury. So are they going to stay put
and go with Will Anderson or who's going to jump
into that spot? And I'm just wondering who those teams
are that are considering it. And I was about to
say that makes it's it's such a curious position with
Arizona just because of all of the internal things that
(26:46):
are going on, like what's the focus right now? You know,
in terms of are you going to make the right decision?
Are you? Are you operating at a high level? You know?
Are you are you? Are you prepared for this moment?
And I'll be interested to see what they do because
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you can ultimately bring in a guy that can turn
around and change the fortunes of your team through the draft.
I mean, if we're going to keep the things, you know,
kind of the same in terms of memory and long ago,
mean Joe Green was the catalyst for Chuck Noll and
the Pittsburgh Steelers changing the fortunes of that team. You know,
(27:31):
they were a pretty pretty average team until they drafted
mean Joe. So and I'm not saying that Carter is
a mean Joe Green, but who's to say he isn't.
I mean, he has done some things that could be
considered to be well mean. So so like like I'm
too mean to be in shape for my come my
(27:53):
pro day, you know, I'm too I'm too mean to
stop in and it could have been waterway. Maybe it's
just trying to hydrate himself and he overdid it, you
know what I mean. But he was nice enough to
return back to the scene. But yeah, Anyway, the point
is is that he does have the potential to be
a talent that that actually could be the catalyst of change.
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And if the quarterback is what he's supposed to be,
if you have some of the other elements involved that
they're supposed to be what they're supposed to be, you
could go from being almost like a laughing stock of
a team to a real contender. So I'm interested to
see what Arizona does. Is there a chance Hendon Hooker
(28:39):
could go in the first round? All right? I mean
there's one hundred percent a chance he could. There's there's
a lot of things you got a factor in though.
He's coming off a twentycl So if you're taking him
the first round, you'd like him to play at some
point sign probably his rookie year, and if he can't
because of the injury, that could be one of those
(29:00):
deals where you see a team say I'd rather pick
a guy who I know is going to come in
day one, be there for OTAs in mini camp, training camp,
and we're gonna be able to evaluate him and start
him and potentially get you know, something back for him.
So that's that's part of the consideration. But from everything
that I've heard from talking about him and then watching
him on tape, he's a tremendous young man. He interviews
(29:22):
incredibly well. He's got a high football IQ, high character,
good leader. The concerns are, you know, the injury, which
I just had mentioned, and then the offense. You know,
there's not too many players who run the type of
offense like Tennessee does where you have these really wide splits.
It's somewhat simplified to a degree in what you're asking
(29:42):
the receivers and the offense to do, and it helps
really spread out the field to create bigger throwing lanes.
Now it to me, it's almost as similar discussion as
you have with CJ. Stroud. People will sit there and say, well,
you know, he's thrown to first round wide receiver verse,
he's throw into some of the guys that are some
of the best receivers that have ever played college football
(30:04):
at Ohio State, and so these guys are wide open.
They've got you know, two three yards of cushing on guys,
that's not hard to do well. Someone still has to
make those throws. And so even though Jalen Hyatt right,
and Cedric Tillman and some of other talented receivers you know,
could get separation and get open and you know we're
wide open at times, hookers still mid all the throws.
He did exactly what he was supposed to do. So
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I don't have as big of an issue with the
style of offense that Tennessee runs and that holding things back.
It just takes a little bit more in the evaluation process. Unfortunately,
because the injury, you don't get those private workouts. You
could sit them down and have private meetings and visits
with them, but that's the extent. So there's one hundred
percent chance he could go in the first round, but
(30:49):
there's also, I put you know, a potential chance that
he slides to the second, you know, depending on how
people view that injury and how people are are maybe
looking at the all of offense and some of the
production that he put up, and how long it may
take him to transition to an NFL style offense. All Right,
So we're gonna put a bow on this bad boy.
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of Joe one enough If they're in, yeah please four
if they're out, all right, lead to lap. What do
we got guys? It is a good Friday on top
of a football Friday, meaning Sunday's Easter. So I have
a few Easter traditions. I want to run by you guys,
see if you're in or out on them. Number one others,
of course, is pictures with the Easter Bunny at the mall.
(32:41):
You guys in or out on that. I'm like as
a kid or you talking about it's like an adult.
You could make it a twofold. You know, I'm in out.
I'm out now. I was probably in as a kid.
I will ask this of all the different people who
you take a photo without the mall, Santa Claus, the
Easter Bunny, whoever else after that? I always feel like
(33:03):
the Easter bunny ones are there because you never get
to see their face. Yeah, well, I got a story
for you. This is cerebral, dude. This is why I'm out,
so simple, this is why I'm out on taking a
picture with the Easter bunny. Thousand Oaks mall. As a kid,
I remember seeing the Easter Bunny walk into the back
(33:24):
hall and I didn't really he was on break or
something and the door was slow to close behind him.
He's literally sitting on a bench. He took his head off,
and he's got a lung dart in. Yeah, and I'm thinking, wait,
hold on a second. And then, you know, my mom
had to tell me, well, yeah, that's not the real
Easter Bunny. He's just pretending the real Easter Bunny's busy
(33:46):
right now. I said, okay, well that makes some sense,
but that guy's still got a you know, a mouth
heater in and he's pretending to be a giant stuffed rabbit.
Just it's so ruined it for me. So when I
see the Easter Bunny at the mall, I'm out completely,
you guys. I mean, I'm just sitting there like, oh,
it's the Easter Bunny. Like, let's take a picture. What
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is going on underneath the Easter Bunny? Hell yeah, you
don't want to know that. I mean, I just don't
even be going that deep with it, like he's here, Okay,
it could even be a woman, Like I don't even
know that it's a woman. Under there, like Buddy could
be a woman this way, imagine you were the rat
at Chucky Cheese. Like you have to have never wondered
who was underneath the rat hit Okay, but I have
(34:30):
because I'm always like, who wants to do that job?
Like you could be doing another job, but I have
to be the rat? Yeah, que I have thought who
wants to be the rat? Yeah? I just never thought
who is it underneath? Like I want to know what
they look like like? Probably because things like if you
choose to be that, like you chose to be that,
(34:51):
there must be still more there. Whoever was probably jacked,
I mean just tore up from the floor up off. Yes,
can you not elaborate on jeez, I didn't know I
was actually signing up to do that full time. How
do you not know? Because they said it was They
said everybody took turns having to get into costume and
(35:13):
and majority of the job was cleaning up birthday party
until they sold me. This is my point. Then the
Easter Bunny, they're not in like, hey you can. You're
not gonna do this full time. When you signed to
the Easter Bunny, you're signing up to put your walk
around wig or your tail, put your little you know,
cap on and all that. You remember when you could
smoke in malls though I don't. You don't remember there
(35:35):
was like smoking sections. Yeah, you could smoke in the
mall and in the restaurant everything. Yeah, so you could smoke.
This is wow. You could smoke on an airplane. Yeah,
they still have They still have the no smoking signs
on airplanes, which I don't understand. Who the hell's lighting
up on an airplane. You could smoke in the airport,
(35:56):
like walking to your gate. You could smoke. Like our
world has like changed, like leaps and bounds. Man, I
feel bad. Man. Cigarettes was the king cigarettes in age? Well,
you had ash trays in your seat back in the
day all airplanes welded shut. Now yeah, guys, today in
(36:20):
the UK you could get a free Cadbury subway melt
sand which I sent you a picture of this yesterday.
Looks absolutely revolting. I get sick thinking about it. I'm out, Yeah,
I'm out. A lot of people thought this was an
April Fool's joke. It is not. Thankfully they're giving it
up for free. I don't even I wouldn't taken for either.
But yeah, I wouldn't even take it for free, like
(36:40):
it looks horrible. Guys hunt hunting for Easter eggs? What's
better hunting for them as a kid or hiding them
as an adult? Definitely as an adult. For me, I'm
in on the adult hiding. I don't know. I love
watching the kids run after them, like find them. They
gets so happy, you know, especially either like I laugh
when I can't though wrong with you, they running back
(37:05):
and forth, like they running back. They start to realize
that they can't find them. They start to realize they can't.
That's kind of funny to be bad, I say, as
a kid, that was more fun as a kid. Yeah, guys,
I saw an adult version where instead of an ee
streak basket you're giving a six pack empty six pack holder,
and it's hidden beers and a little little whiskey bottles
(37:26):
and whatnot. White kid Todd, Yeah, Todd. I think we're
gonna make this a tradition. Yeah, oh my god, I
don't know where I'm going to get married. You do
know that, right, It's just like, come on, man, we
saw Mario yesterday. Gay did not drink for forty five minutes.
You know how that go yesterday. It was it was whatever. Yeah,
(37:47):
I figured, but I was hanging with Todd. The hanging
is good. The hanging. The hanging was great. Yeah. Man,
I know, movie not so much. Set with you, dog.
I'll probably held hands in the movie. Got wrong. Hollow East,
Hollow chocolate bunnies, inter out out Okay here you can
need something in the middle. Yeah, you can't have just
(38:09):
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