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November 15, 2023 38 mins

Justin Fields is on pace to return but what is he playing for? Trevon Diggs doubles down on his criticism of the Bills. The Old P, Petros Papadakis talks Cher, hobo fires and the Jim Harbaugh suspension. Plus, the BQ News,  Deshaun Watson done for the season, and much more!

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we've got a little bit of an update in the NFL.
Justin Fields, who has been out the last month because

(01:18):
of his dislocated thumb. He is expected to get the
start this Sunday against the Detroit Lions. This from Ian Rappaport.
Assuming today's practice goes well. The key has been regaining
grip strength and Fields was nearly there before Thursday Night
Football last week. So with a solid practice, he will
be getting the nod for the Chicago Bears against the

(01:39):
Detroit Lions. So it looks like the Tyson bage In
experience as starter in.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Chicago has gone. Yeah, it's already govern right.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
They're no longer arm wrestling over the position.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
No, just appears to be over with. But it's been
a fun ride for him. He's played well. Probably may
take you money.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
He solidified himself as being able to be a backup, backup.
Like there's some guys who they get in his rookies
like this or maybe the first year or two, and
when they played like that, they might not ever play
in a regular season game for like five six years
and as long as they looked the part in training
camp and preseason like they could literally play for a decade.

(02:19):
And having only started a few games. There's a number
of guys obviously who were able to do that.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
And Division two undrafted, nobody had heard of him.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Okay, that's not true. He was at the Senior Bowl.
He won the Heisman, the equivalent of it in Division two.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
Let's not listen.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
I mean maybe if you're a casual Bears fan, like
like you are, but.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
You know, you and I, babe, of course we know
who he is, all right, of course we know. We
were talking about it in the Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, what was that too?

Speaker 4 (02:49):
I need to dump that.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Dump them, dump it all, Sam, dump it all. Hey,
we were talking. Can you take us out of the podcast.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
We were talking about Tyson bage in in the preseason
when he was out playing, Like, there's a reason why PJ.
Walker is not in Chicago anymore. Tyson beagent outplayed him
in the preseason in training camp.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
So well, I mean, roles have have reversed quite a
bit since then.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
PJ.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Walker, that's starting quarterback in Cleveland.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
The uh the other thing is I mean again, during
the Senior Bowl, he was kind of discussed at that
point in time in the draft process.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
But how does that happen?

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Probably Nash Walker has more wins than than Tyson Beijing
as a as a pro, doesn't He didn't he win?
He only lost like what one game I would assume
he does and it was a big game that he
didn't do well.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Right, Although, you know, as a starting quarterback in Chicago,
Justin Fields has six career wins and Tyson Bijen already
has two. So just saying, you know, small sample size.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Tough to come by.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Can you know they're three and seventeen in their last twenty.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Let me ask you, guys as bad as that, what
is Justin Fields playing for right now? I mean, I
know we know the obvious answer would be his job.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
But well, here's the thing that's interesting when you say that,
I mean, the Bears have the Panthers pick. Yeah, so
no matter how well Justin Fields plays, if they want
to move on, like the Bears can decide to move
on because they've they've got the ability to take a
quarterback at number one. If the Panthers solidify themselves as

(04:33):
being you know, are having the worst record in the
NFL this year, So that's the crazy thing about this
is like the other pick that they've obviously got in
the first round that could be impacted obviously by the
success of fields, but it's just tough because he's missed
some time. They're people who still have questions and if
Matt eber Flus makes this through and they're like, well,

(04:54):
you know what do you attribute your lack of success to,
you start pointing fingers else for like not men many
people survive. If they're like, yeah, that's me, Like I'm
part of the issue, there's like, okay, we're gonna do
head coach, then you know, like it's it's such an
interesting situation he's in. And as a player, a lot
of times, even as a first round pick, you always
feel like you're playing for every other team in the

(05:16):
league two in a sense of you never know who
that next team is going to be that ends up
signing you, or you never know what the future holds.
So he's playing for himself and he's playing for who
knows what's gonna happen after this year is done.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
He hasn't done enough this year to calm anybody into
thinking he's the guy you're gonna build around. And I
just go back to something like a hypothetical we threw
out last year, which was the Bears had the number
one pick. If Caleb Williams or Drake May were in
last year in this past year's draft, would the Bears
have traded that number one pick? And I don't think

(05:51):
they would have. I think they would have taken Caleb
Williams last year. And if they've got the opportunity they're
taking Caleb Williams this year.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
There's the financial aspect of it too, you know, whereas
Justin Fields is closer to having to extend them or France,
you know, all those considerations. That plays a portion of
it too. You know, you don't necessarily know how they
evaluated Justin Fields when he was coming out, you know,
as far as they're they're ranking on him as a prospect,
and how that compares. I mean, maybe they have him

(06:18):
even with some of the guys they're looking at, But
the biggest difference is the fact that they do, or
at least right now, have the number one overall pick.
And if they do take whether it's Caleb Williams or
Drake May, you'd be saying, well, they're immediately gonna be
it's gonna be cheaper for the next foreseeable three four
years before they really have to do much, you know,

(06:38):
pick up the fifth year option and extend them and
all that. Then having to look at extending justin Fields
and making that decision here in the next year or two.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
Yeah, it's a tough spot to be in if you're
justin Field.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Well, and if we're gonna be fair to justin Fields,
because yeah, they may take a quarterback at number one.
If this is how this ends up and they've got
the Carolina's pick, they got a lot of problems there.
It's not just justin Fields like he'll he'll be the
fall guy, much like Ken Dorsey was the fall guy.
But I look at it and go, even if you
do land Caleb Williams, is, are they immediately a playoff

(07:11):
team next year?

Speaker 1 (07:12):
No?

Speaker 3 (07:12):
No, Like there's they got a lot there to figure out.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
In chef.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
If the special teams coach has eleven on the field
and Buffalo wins that game by one point, does Ken
Dorsey still have his job today?

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Think about that.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
That's that's crazy to think about.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Okay, just thought i'd put that out there.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Like the narrative changes completely completely.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Yeah, off of twelve men being on the field and
him getting a kick that he missed back to kick
it again to win the game, you get rid of
your offensive coordinator.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
I was going to ask you guys this about just
sort of the drama surrounding the Bills. So Stefan Diggs's brother,
you know, made some comments following the game. You gotta
get he's got to get Hey, he does have time,
He's not gonna be playing for a while, and he
made some you know, he went to Twitter and or
x or whatever you want to call it and said, uh,

(08:05):
you know, he's got to get out of there during
the game, like right after the game ended, rather on
Monday night. And then he doubles down yesterday and said
something along along the lines of let's not forget uh Bro.
He didn't go off until Bro got there.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Yeah, And so I'm just assuming reading between the Lions here.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Ken Dorsey and Stefan Diggs was beefing.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
You think it was that or was it a shot
at Josh Allen. Oh that's the way I read it.
Oh see, I feel like, did you read.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
The text or tweet or yes or whatever The heck
it is.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Yeah, didn't start going off until Bro got there.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
See to me, I feel like that was after the
the OC, after day Ball left and Dorsey came in.
Then Bro started going off.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Nos that the third third year when Brian Daball was
there is when Diggs got there, and that was when
Josh Allen had his best year. And after that year
they I believe they signed him to the extension then,
but like that was that was the make or break
year for Josh Allen after the first two and and look,

(09:21):
so I had done Buffalo Bill's games and I had
said it back then like they needed to give him
a Stephan Diggs to see, you know, what he was
ultimately capable of. And once they did, you saw it.
So then I was like, okay, like we just need
to survive, surround him with more. And then it's gotten
to a point now I don't know through the change
from day Ball to to Door, see what that relationship
looks like with Josh Allen, what that relationship looks like

(09:42):
with Stefan Diggs. There's obviously a lot that goes into this,
but you know, I'm not gonna I can't read it
at Trivon Digs tweet. I just know that maybe, you know,
Josh Allen Ken Dorsey didn't get along as well as
Brian Dable and Josh Allen right, or maybe he didn't
agree with the play calling and and the style in
which they were trying to play. You know who ultimately knows.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
But the guy that was most animated about being upset
and disgruntle was was was Diggs.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, I would say though outside of his first year,
there hasn't there been kind of something each year where
he's been upset?

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Yes, but was it when Dave Ball was there that was.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
The Yeah, Able was there for with Diggs for at
least what two.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
I mean it happened in Minnesota as well too, well
they were.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah, but that's different. That's different. I mean, I'm saying
when we start, when the first we saw of Stefan
Diggs popping off was last year post that at the
end of that that playoff game, right.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
No, there was.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
I could have sworn there was moments during last season
as well too, like he was he was.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
It was all last year. Yeah, it was last year
and that was Dorsey's first year. Yeah, correct, Yeah, that's
why I'm That's why I feel like that's what tray
Von is is basically alluding to is read the tweet?
How did tweet go?

Speaker 5 (11:03):
Again?

Speaker 3 (11:04):
And let's not forget he didn't start going off till
Bro got there.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
See what I'm saying. If he started going.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I don't think it's about coordinators.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Then I think it's Josh Allen.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
It's Josh Allen because when look at the first year
Stefan Diggs got to Buffalo.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
In twenty twenty, he started balling out Josh.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
That was where Josh Allen's best year is. Dave Ball
was there from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty one, so
there's two years there there together. And I do feel
like during the twenty twenty one season where they went
to this two and four stretch. But as I pointed
out in the first hour, there is something there too.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
So y'all going with the slang term of going off,
I'm going on the literal term of going off, like
my bro didn't start going off until like he didn't
start going off here.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Dorsey's been there though, but.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Wasn't the offensive coordinator.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
But he'd been there though as the quarterback coach.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
But he wasn't calling the plays.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
I understand what you're saying, but.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
I just don't. I mean, it could be a correlation
of he did so real quick, he's door.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
I'm just because I don't Obviously you're not aware of this.
Dorsey was the quarterback coach from twenty nineteen twenty twenty. Okay,
he then became the passing game coordinator in twenty twenty one,
and then it's the OC the past two years. So
there's that kind of overlap where he was much more message.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yeah, that's that's good information. I just I just think
from if he if we're using the slang term, it's
one hundred percent Josh Allen. But if we're using the
literal term, if I can recall, I didn't see Stefan
Diggs going off until last year, and a lot of
people who are onlooking would say or speculate that it

(12:43):
was based off of his lack of targets, right, like,
he wasn't getting targeted. So is that Josh Allen that's
not thrown out? I will say that play calling.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I would say this, typically most receivers.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Have a problem with not getting enough balls.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Correct, but that frustration gets taken out on the quarterback
more so than the oc because when you think about it,
I mean, let's just go through the course of the
week when you're game planning. Obviously, any offensive coordinator is
going to make sure they put him as the first
read or they try to move him around, they try
to make sure he's involved in the first or second read.

(13:18):
It's like very seldom he's going to be running a
route that's going to attract a bunch of attention to
open someone else up, you know, usually that's how it
works in the NFL. And then situation like third down,
red zone, like those dudes are getting the targets, those
guys are like involved in that first second read somewhere
in there. So during the course of the week, like
they're getting a lot of targets, they're getting a lot

(13:39):
of shots. In practice, they're getting a lot of action
with it. And even in walkthroughs, like there's times where
like we talk to the coordinator like, hey, make sure
even though he's not the number one reading this one,
just make sure you getting the ball and walk through
like that sort of thing. And so what ends up
happening is the receiver always feels like they're a part
of every single pass play that's called, Like they should
be thrown to. Now, every receiver in the history of

(14:02):
football is always said they're always open. Okay, Like they've
always said that double coveraged guy blanketed on you, the
best cornerback in the league, one on one, he's still open, right,
So that's always been the case in the past president
future will always be the case. So what happens is
then the guy who is holding the football and ultimately
makes the decision on where the ball is targeted ends

(14:23):
up being the guy that gets the blame, even though
he's being coached to say, hey, if the defense does this,
go here, if the defense does this go here, like,
you're not always gonna just throw to that number one
guy just because he's that number one guy. Now, there
is certain situations and circumstances where you have to think playmakers,
not plays. But in most cases, what happens is then

(14:44):
the receiver gets frustrated with the quarterback since you're the
one back there with the ball and you're the one who, ultimately,
regardless of what you're being told by the coach, you
make that decision. So in my experience, it usually ends
up being the receiver that gets frustrated with the quarterback.
More so than the coordinator. And and and look, there's
a lot of things that go into how that guy

(15:05):
gets this target. Whether it's protection, could be a lot
of things, what the defense is doing to take him away.
So it's a very nuanced conversation. But my experience has
been more. I think if there's a rye wide receiver's frustrated,
it's it's usually with the quarterback.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
I'll go with that.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah, well, listen, he's entitled to his own opinion, you know,
he's entitled to us say however he wants.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
Should have just made it clear.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
I just well, I just I wouldn't imagine that he
would go on the offensive like that unless he had
some sort of a green light from his brother to
do so, because he can realize that's not true.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
You know it's not true.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
I mean this all does is cause more issues?

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Okay, does your every time we talk about sunset, do
you have to reach out to your brother and get
the okay to talk about it?

Speaker 4 (15:50):
I mean it depends, No, it depends we're talking listen.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
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I mean Brady brought up upside down Apple pancakes and
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I just said pineapple pancakes. I thought you set upside down.

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Speaker 4 (16:09):
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Speaker 4 (16:27):
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Speaker 1 (18:06):
Good morning?

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Hello? Hello, Hello and everybody?

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Yes, Hi, big fan of Sonny and Chaer Not really, okay.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
But I'm aware of their existence of course. Dang.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Are you a big fan of the movie Groundhog Day?

Speaker 5 (18:21):
Not really, but I'm aware of its existence.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Hang oh, okay, I feel like the next question is
a big one because I'm kind of curious where this
is going.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
All right, come on, Jones, big fan of being called babe.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
You know, I'm kind of used to it.

Speaker 7 (18:36):
I I grew up in a like with a lot
of older types, you know, in a restaurant like hey, babe,
you know, give me, give me that Greek salad on
table three.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
You know, like you know, it's kind of a baseball thing.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Okay, when I said it on a bit, a little
bit stock your bit, I spit.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
What's going on here?

Speaker 7 (18:59):
It's basely for me. But that's how baseball types are in.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Mind, you get. I mean, come on, Ford, did you
ever play baseball? You'd be out like in the outfield.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
I was a little best not get bit.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Say no, better know about I know about I know
about it, know.

Speaker 5 (19:16):
That part of it.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, it's kind of saying thing. But babe is very baseball,
that's true.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
Babe.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Does baseball have the best culture of any sport? Like
as far as just like how lax it is and
fun and all that stuff. A lot of shenanigans.

Speaker 7 (19:30):
You know, I always thought hockey had the best. Hockey's
got some good stuff, you know, like just as far
as like the way they they don't call it a jersey,
they call it a sweater. They don't call it the
clubhouse or the locker room, they just call.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
It the room.

Speaker 5 (19:46):
So that's kind of interesting.

Speaker 7 (19:49):
And then the other thing that freaked me out about hockey,
and I don't know anything about hockey, you know, I
mean for a sports guy, I got, I got almost nothing.
But uh, the one thing that really freaked me out
about hockey is like if a team is not doing
well or there's bad blood from the past with a
team that you haven't seen in a while, like two
guys like even before the game start will be like, hey,

(20:11):
we'll fight, let's fight, and like right when they do
the face off, boom, they'll just start fighting like they agree,
you know, like they agree to fight. We're going to
have a fight because I need to get this team going,
you know, or something like that. Just a very different
kind of vibe.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
My brother in law plays and he was telling me,
like the signal is basically like as you're like skating,
like if the guy like shakes his gloves at you,
he's essentially saying like let's fight, Like do you do
you want to fight?

Speaker 5 (20:38):
Let's fight? Let's fight it out. Let's get some of
this a gredgate out.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
That's play the hot shaking of the gloves.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Petros to that point. What teams in the PAC twelve
still have that? Come on, let's fight Oh, I was
just curious.

Speaker 7 (20:58):
You know, bir It's like weill in one of those
pregame drills where they're like hit hit, hit, and you like,
switch to the right, switch back to the left. Well,
I mean, obviously Washington is still like I don't like.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
I mean, I.

Speaker 7 (21:11):
Hate the rankings and I hate the argument about the rankings,
but Washington shouldn't be number five.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
But Washington is doing great.

Speaker 7 (21:18):
I mean, it's really hard to be undefeated in conference,
in a conference that usually just cannibalizes itself. They survived
the game they came out flat at home against Arizona State.
They survived another pretty bad defensive effort against Stanford, and
they look like themselves again kind of the last couple

(21:39):
of weeks, sort of controlling the game against sc though
it was tight, and controlling the game down the stretch
against Utah. I like panics for the heisman. He's been
the most consistent guy. I feel, at least that i've
seen week in and week out, and uh, I just
think their coach is one of the best it's going

(22:00):
right now and a great play caller in Ryan Grubb.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
So to me, it's Washington.

Speaker 7 (22:05):
I mean, Oregon is obviously playing at a really high
level also, and they're gonna meet up again, I believe,
in the PAC twelfth championship game. But then Oregon State
is extremely balanced, extremely balanced defensively and with their pass
and it all works off their run game with Martinez
and Fennick the running backs, and I really like those

(22:30):
guys up in Corvallas, So it'll be a fun final
three weeks. The crazy thing is is here in LA
and Rivalry Week used to be a huge thing in
Los Angeles. Like when I started doing radio in LA,
Rivalry Week was like what are we gonna do Monday?
What are we gonna do Tuesday? Do we still have

(22:51):
Terry Donna Hughes number? You know?

Speaker 5 (22:53):
And now it's like no one cares at all.

Speaker 7 (22:58):
But even if the teams were good, I mean they
were both good last year, but I mean UCLA canceled
their rally tonight because it's literally drizzling today in the forecast.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
Like there's one tenth of an inch of rain coming?

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Isn't that chip? And maybe isn't the hot seat?

Speaker 5 (23:18):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (23:19):
I mean, in twenty fourteen they canceled their rally because
it turned into a tuition hike protest, and the twenty
nineteen they canceled their rally because of wildfires. Now, well
it is. But like, I just can't imagine anybody canceling
any rally anywhere other than at UCLA, right, Like, I
just you know, I couldn't see Auburn canceling canceling their

(23:40):
Iron Bowl rally because it's raining petrous.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
What do you think gets more coverage UCLA USC this weekend?
Or the fire on the ten Freeway. Oh, fire on
the hobo fire for sure? Oh it wasson. Hobos don't
have lighters. No, Hobos don't smoke crack and chase the
dragon drugs. They do drug free.

Speaker 7 (24:04):
Oh yeah, I love the fact that you know, we're
like getting pulled over for having like, you know, your
phone to your head. But but there could be like
so much debris under the biggest thoroughfare and just let
it burn the whole city.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
It took me like an hour and fifty minutes to.

Speaker 7 (24:23):
Get home from work yesterday because of the goddamn hobo fire.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
I thought it wasn't Gavin new Some cleaning everything up.
I thought he was. He was doing a good job
with that.

Speaker 7 (24:32):
No, make him the president. He's done a great job here.
We got hobos and encampments everywhere. A hobo fire is terrible.
Guys like dude, we can't dry. You can't get anywhere now,
like once you go to once you hit downtown, it's

(24:53):
like a cork in your butt.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
You can't there's no passing a.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
I got a quirking I can't get us back on truck.

Speaker 5 (25:06):
Brought up the hobo file.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
Speaking of corking, I mean, look, how about this.

Speaker 7 (25:13):
We got a guy named Rick Caruso who is like
usc billionaire who owns, you know, the Grove and the
Americana and all those big shopper centers. Does he own
Lincoln Riley's house to well, yeah, he bought Lincoln Riley
the Rosky estate not about ten minutes from where I live.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
It's the crow flies here. Uh.

Speaker 7 (25:35):
He paid up about one hundred million dollars to fire
Clay Hilton, hire Lincoln Riley, win the press conference.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
Do all that just so they would elect him mayor.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
You don't even know.

Speaker 5 (25:48):
You don't even know how much fun we're gonna have
a Lincoln Riley. You seriously don't even know. Uh.

Speaker 7 (25:54):
You fast forward a year or so, Rick Cruso lost
the mayoral race, even though he thought that that would
win him the election. That big photo op moment where
no one was allowed to go anywhere for COVID but
Lionard and Mark Sanchez and all the USC types, can

(26:14):
you know, lock elbows up at the coliseum and and
introduce Lincoln Riley?

Speaker 5 (26:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (26:20):
So so you, I mean five, Brady's really embracing that. Huh, Brady,
hold on, really, you're really starting to become part of
Matt Lioner. It's a global uh uh, social media endeavors.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
I love it, but I'd like to say it's my
creative way of of behind the scenes creating content. Yes,
not actually being it though not always.

Speaker 7 (26:42):
I don't know, well not always. But I see you
out there, like Scorsese says, I have film out there
with the big new kick.

Speaker 5 (26:48):
That's why you're on the TikTok.

Speaker 7 (26:50):
Then I I, uh, but I am surprised you fast
forward and not only has us he not won any championships.
Lincoln Riley looks like more fool's gold than than ever before.
And you just don't know, Like they're not gonna have
Caleb Williams next year. What are they gonna be like
if he's still there in the Rick Caruso lost the

(27:12):
mayoral election, and now we have another mayor who's standing
in front of the ten freeway telling us, well, it's
Arson and we don't know. It's like, well, what is
this one area synonymous with hobos and the Farmer john Factory?

Speaker 1 (27:26):
I'm sorry, what's the farmer job factory?

Speaker 7 (27:30):
Farmer smells terrible. It's a hot dog place. Have you
ever seen True Detective season two?

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (27:37):
Okay, remember that city in True Detective season two.

Speaker 7 (27:40):
Yeah, that's like has no residence and this this weird Correct,
that's a that's a real place in right. Yeah, it's Kelly.
It's right next to downtown LA. It's called it's not
called Vincy like it was in True Detective. It's called Vernon.
And yeah, it was run by this correct family. One

(28:01):
of them was found dead in a pool or something
that some one of the one of their officials was
you know, murdered up in the Abay Area on a hike,
like all that stuff was based on reality. It's like
the most corrupt city in the history of the United
States of America in many ways. And uh, I don't
know how much different it is. But that's where this

(28:24):
is really close to where it is. That's where people
are driving through. They're literally sticking their head out of
the window and barfing because it smells that bad.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
I mean, before I know you're gonna ask some slappy No,
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
It's an important question.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
Oh a slappy question.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
I saw it really is. I mean, if you would
give me a chance, I'm telling you it's important.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
Give me a chance.

Speaker 7 (28:44):
Give me a chance, just like you give all those
good Instagram videos with lease.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
Hey, so, because I wanted to get this in.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
Before sitting there is good looking to do a video.
What are you gonna do?

Speaker 1 (28:56):
I just want to ask real sports questions.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
I don't know what That's what I'm gonna ask, Petros.
What would Mike Bone say about the hobo fire.

Speaker 7 (29:06):
You don't even know how hot this fire is. You
don't even know how to chase the dragon properly. You
don't even know, hey, baby, really don't know. You gotta
got a foil. You gotta get the lighter, you gotta
get your heroin.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
I mean, how will you know, how will this era
of USC football be looked upon?

Speaker 5 (29:32):
Pi right, Fool's gold.

Speaker 7 (29:36):
I mean, I just it's been such an I don't know,
nails crying in your mother's neck like Tiger Woods, everyone
the masters, you know almost. I mean, it's not the
USC loss to Cal, I mean, lost to Washington, Kill
Oregon or Notre Dame got completely dominated, and they got
completely Notre Dame beat them worse than anybody that they played.

(30:00):
Utah beat them with their disheveled roster. It's that Cal
should have beat them, you know, Arizona should have beat him.
I mean those games were very, very tight. USC is
not any better than they were in the Clay Helton era.
And they have the best player maybe in the history
of the university at quarterback, you know, in some people's view,

(30:23):
I don't know if that's the case, but he's certainly
damn good. It just makes you wonder where do they
go from here. It's a cultural systemic problem, and firing
a defensive coordinator doesn't help much.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
I really wanted to ask you, though, like three things
and I think you can actually accomplish this because we
don't have a lot of time here, but quick thought
on just the horrball thing situation.

Speaker 5 (30:46):
That's going on. That's America's team.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
We talked about this yesterday. That's a great brand, Like
no one took that in college football, and Horrball's like,
you know what Dallas takes it. I can't we just
take this like I have had.

Speaker 7 (31:02):
Great experiences with Harbaugh in my career when he was
at Stanford and then after that much fewer and far between.
You know, he's got most of the time if I
ever see him, the thousand yard stare from two yards right.
But when he had Stanford going right off the top,
you know, and Toby Gerhart should have won the Heisman

(31:23):
and all that, he went into this mode, you know,
talking about chicken and all the weird stuff. You know,
he's just gone into full fu mode. And so is Michigan.
You know, Michigan has raised the middle finger to everybody.
And it's interesting a lot of people at my alma mater,
this is what they wanted to do with the NC

(31:44):
double A and the PAC twelve and all that when
they were getting bullied around by the NC double A
over the Reggie Bush stuff, and you look at it
in retrospect and you think, wow, us he could have
made a lot of changes early because you look at
what happened us. He's bigger than the PAC ten PAC
twelve was, and I think Michigan's got that kind of status.

(32:05):
And college football with the NC DOUBLEA is kind of
on the brink of collapse. The NC DOUBLEA is no
longer powerful. If they ever make a decision in this,
Harbaugh will probably be long gone, just like the Arizona
State thing. I mean, Ray Anderson, Herm Edwards, my god,
Antonio Pierce is a head coach. I mean all these
in the NFL. I mean, who's going to be punished

(32:26):
for the stuff Arizona State allegedly did a bunch of
people that had nothing to do with it, you know,
And that'll end up happening at Michigan, if anything happens
at all. But I you know, I really think only
about fifteen to twenty percent of the outrage is legit
and the rest is just how much people hate Harball.
And maybe that's on him, but but this is BS.

(32:47):
This whole thing is BS.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
Get him on Twitter at the old p he is
Petros papadak Is. He played on paper of the Petros
and Money Show on the blowtarchs Am five to seven
LA Sports five college football analyst.

Speaker 8 (33:01):
She's got a young boyfriend, right, LeVar. I mean she
you know she's got you, baby, She's eighty and still
I'm just just like an old.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
Piece of jerky getting tall.

Speaker 7 (33:15):
Pound it out on the on the back watch goodness,
I'm kind of found out.

Speaker 5 (33:19):
The jerky of flattening it out.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
Oh yeah, I'm kind of a fan of share. I
think she's a timeless wonder, much like Dolly Parton.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
If I could turn back time, she don't even have to.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
It's a liquor storageer.

Speaker 7 (33:32):
If you watch the I Could Turn Back Time video. Though,
Now you're like, man, that is a flat ass. Put
that thing away.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
Oh no, not flat jack, look at it.

Speaker 7 (33:42):
Oh no, uh, there's some there's some wiggle room on
the thong.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
I feel.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
If you've got If you disagree with that sentiment, you
can get him on Twitter at the old.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Call.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
We appreciate it. We'll do it again next week.

Speaker 5 (34:02):
There you is all right?

Speaker 3 (34:04):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe Here
on Fox Sports Radio and it's time to close up
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Speaker 2 (34:10):
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Speaker 3 (34:23):
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Speaker 2 (35:01):
Let's go to the news desk. No, here's Brady quick.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, uh, well, I gotta start off this first one
with a news story from the state of Florida. Lee,
have you been to the state of Florida in the
past year? Uh?

Speaker 5 (35:16):
The Florida this year?

Speaker 8 (35:17):
No?

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Okay, because this one's a bit surprising. Okay, I've got
someone who's been arrested for stealing one five million in liquor, which.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Just you know, I know this is true, not because
I was there, but I okay, so.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
You do know the story. You probably envy us. Huh. Yeah,
at some point this past year, Florida man was arrested
for it's actually one point six million of alcohol, uh,
that he was able to smuggle out in two semi
trucks in a warehouse over a three day span. Uh,
you get a problem. I mean, obviously they're trying to
you know, sell it and make some money off it.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Hey, we do have uh, some breaking news here, Brady,
and I do not want to interrupt this, but so
this from the Cleveland Browns And according to Adam Schefter
of ESPN, Deshaun Watson will undergo season ending surgery on
a broken bone in his throwing shoulder. So that's a

(36:12):
wrap on Deshaun Watson for twenty twenty three.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
So it's just a different injury then than what he
had earlier.

Speaker 3 (36:19):
I don't know, because he was the ankle that was
getting looked.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
At after the game, right, that was what you could
see him too when he bent down and touched it,
and you would have thought that, you know, if this
was the issue earlier, why not try to get surgery
in the shoulder earlier this season if it was a
broken bone.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah, so there it is. I mean, damn, they got
a hell of a defense. They got so much talent there.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
And now, okay, they were they were gonna be a
playoff team. They're in the playoffs if the playoffs started today.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
Yeah, so I'm out of loss because I feel like
being a hater, but you know what, you gotta get surgery.
You gotta get surgery. If your shoulders injured and it's
got a broken bone that needs correcting, then get get
your body right. Take care of yourself, take care of
your body.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
It's just made a long term investment.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
It's not like it's such a czar, but it's just
such a bizarre deal with with this whole thing.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
What happened.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
I mean, how about like with everything that's gone on
that Deshaun Watson, and the news was they waited to
drop it during the BQ News.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Like I think that's, you know, I'm not sure they
is just such you're referring to when you say.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
They know just the Cleveland Browns who released the statement
a short time ago, they waited for the BQ News
to get it done.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Do you think maybe it actually happened during the Petro
segment but you just now saw it.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
No, I'm just.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Looking at the timing of the chapter tweet, so a
little bit odd.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
So apparently he had an mri I on two different
injuries that he sustained in the first half.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
That's what we're seeing early on in the first half. Yeah,
and there's your BQ News. Jeez, bow bye.
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