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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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So they're showing by the local news reports out here
are so full of crap. They're showing the same stock
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traffic photo heading into Lax that they use every single
time there's a holiday or a day before a holiday.
To try it all, this is what the travel is.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
How do you know that because we've seen the same one.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Lee my line about this, it's the same one they
use every.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Time you want to call Lee in to it.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
You're not exaggerating, though, Yeah, they use the same exact angle,
same shot every single No, that's true.
Speaker 7 (01:41):
Yeah, of course you're not exaggerating. Jonas Shenanigans, Oh my god,
that's my person.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I mean, I'm not doubting you. I'm just kind of
curious as to how you're figuring this out.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
So I just you know what, I've never did.
Speaker 7 (01:53):
You ask Eddie. Eddie's going to give us the real
you know, I want to hear it from Eddie. I
don't want to hear it from Lee. I want to
hear from Eddie.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
He's busy. Oh yeah, Eddie, have you seen.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Eddie?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Have you seen the local news report here. Every time
there's a holiday coming up, they use the same like
traffic video footage that they use every single holiday. This
is you've seen that, Eddie, I have seen that.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
Yeah, well there you go, there you go. I believe
it now.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
So LeVar had no faith in Lee you to corroborate
my story.
Speaker 8 (02:25):
That makes sense, all right?
Speaker 5 (02:26):
So oh wow?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Shots fired early? And what's the what's the weather? What
is the weather looking like in ann Arbor for Saturday?
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Not good? Not good?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
I think the highs are like thirty four, so the
loves are like in the low twenties.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
As long as it does, I mean at that Point's
the wind too, That's the one that the problem is.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
I feel like all that stuff can change.
Speaker 7 (02:51):
You know, this far out the wind till facts.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
I'll put it this way.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Wind gusts are up to twenty miles an hour today.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
We'll see what it looks like come game day.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Is it like the old adage in Chicago to say,
if you don't like the weather, wait a minute. It
was kind of like that.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
N No, not as bad. It's not like that.
Speaker 7 (03:09):
You remember them in nan Arbor last year, seawood was freezing.
He almost froze over. Reggie was two years ago?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Was that two years ago?
Speaker 7 (03:21):
Yeah, Reggie came in.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
What did Reggie have?
Speaker 7 (03:24):
Boy, I don't like the the electric jack the electric.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
He had a tear that froze on his face.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, people's eyes water like there was on his face.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (03:41):
Oh man, damn.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
And then the worst was like Coach Stoops was with us,
and I remember, like none of us knew how long
we're going to be out there for that that first Friday,
because you have like the Apple Cups some other games.
Coach was shaking. He was freezing so bad. I feel
awful for him, but like there's nothing we could do
until we're done to get him like a coat and
everything else, because he didn't have anything out there with him.
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And so everyone after we got done with that Friday hit,
we all went to I think it was Dick Sporting Goods,
and we were loading up on like thurble gear like
anything else we could find that would keep us warm.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Dang.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
See that's the parts that people don't really you know,
they don't know, like the extremes, like sometimes y'all got
to deal with extreme heat and being like I remember,
Coach Stoops was leaking leaking at the Iowa game, and
then y'all got to deal with like extreme.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
One had somehow a stream on his forehead. He was
sweating so bad. One time we're in Norman, it was
it was like unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (04:43):
I mean, y'all still got to focus and still still deliver,
you know, prime content.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
So shots out to y'all. Man, y'all do a great job. Man.
I really do enjoy the show.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
Definitely has become a staple of college college football.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
So it's pretty cool. Man.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
People say, you know, you know, which one do you watch?
And I say, which one do I watch? I mean,
come on, man, you do know I do radio with
Brady Quinn. I used that probably maybe twice a day
when people like are like, oh I listened to you that, this,
that and the other. Yeah I do I do radio
(05:21):
with Brady Quinn.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Oh yeah, should say too.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
That's a legitimized the show.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
I don't say Jonas, I say Brady.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Growing up going. I knew where this was going.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I knew where this was going.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
I got to legitimize the the you know, the show
that I'm on.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Like if I say, yeah, this is this is really.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Taking a shot at Jonas I don't know what happened
so far. This is taking a shot at Jonah somehow.
Speaker 7 (05:47):
You mean wait, wait, wait, you mean Jonahs knocks he
does TV.
Speaker 8 (05:49):
Too, Yeah, he does, he does.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Boy what a show it is.
Speaker 7 (06:01):
Hey, Jonas, I think you do a hell of a
job on a show for what is worth.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I'm not woulde.
Speaker 7 (06:06):
I think when they give you, the worst decision that
they made is that they didn't make you the driver
of the show, like they should have had you as
the host of the show, and then there'll be a
much doper show. I don't I don't know why they
would have you sitting on the panel like when you
you're so gifted at teases and setting things up, and
they got you sitting there like waiting for this dude
(06:28):
and he's so slow.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
With getting to you. Guys.
Speaker 7 (06:30):
I don't know, man, It's just interesting though.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
I think everybody does a fine job. I don't know
what you're talking about. Share right, I'm scar Sea right,
anybody for anybody who may be listening, you have my
full support, Hey, critiques, I think everybody does they just
sparkling job on that fine program. So there is there
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is all that. Well listen, we transitioned smoothly here from
the Tiraq dot Com studios to a tale of two seasons.
Because how about the turnaround for the Denver Broncos and
the Houston Texans so much so that the NFL has
flexed on him. Oh wow, the Broncos and the Texans
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in week thirteen are now being moved to the one
pm Eastern time window, and the Panthers in the Bucks, Yeah,
they're gonna get the four h five Eastern time treatment.
So you guys, go ahead and we'll swap you right out.
I don't know how many people thought this was going
to happen at the start of the year or when
Denver started off the way they started.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Wait wait, yeah, explain this. So the Bucks in Carolina
are moving to four pm Eastern.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Yeah, four or five.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
I thought that was the more prime spot.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Yeah, that is the more watched hour time slot. Why
why where you say this is a good thing?
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Well, because four oh five feels different than four twenty five,
you know, like the four h five is kind of
the in the late window. You know, the four to
twenty five would be the premiere late windows slot. And
they're looking at disc going h no, no.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
No, I think you're you're missing the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
This, This has more to do with it has to
have more to do with whatever's happening on Sunday night
in flex scheduling, right.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I would assume they haven't flexed.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
What's what's sundayle flexing is for for the singular one,
like the Sunday night game is what?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Well, yeah, yeah, well they're flexing this game, That's what
I'm saying. They're flexing this game out. The Sunday night
game is the Chiefs and the Packers. They're not going
to flex that out, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Well yeah, but the out Yeah, Well, we're trying to
make the case for you that what you're saying is
not actually right. Like you'd want to be at a
four o'clock window, not a one o'clock window.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Listen, I'm just reporting what the decision they made. They
decided to move the Broncos and the Texans up to
the one pm Eastern time window, and they decided to
go ahead and give the Panthers and Books the four
or five treatment.
Speaker 7 (08:59):
Is that is that Eastern Mountain or Pacific.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
One pm Eastern time for Broncos Texans four h five
Eastern for the Panthers and Bucks.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Okay, let's just paint out why the four pm Eastern
time slot is bigger. A. You're gonna have more of
a West Coast audience because it's it's one o'clock, they're local. B.
There's less games going on, so you have more of
an opportunity to have a greater portion of the country
depending on what you're up against. So it really doesn't
make much sense to have a say, we're highlighting this game,
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pushing it to the one o'clock window, So that doesn't
really make much sense.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I think the reasoning behind this for CBS, because they're
both CBS games, is because in that four to twenty
five Eastern time window you have forty nine Ers Eagles,
so basically whatever other games going on.
Speaker 8 (09:46):
A policy, this has been a swap.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Okay, so let's just let's just get this out in
the open.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, this was a trade between Fox and CBS. Yeah,
because typically Fox has the NFC rights, so they would
normally be doing Tampa Carolina. So who are they getting
in exchange from the AFC.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
I don't I don't know that that's how this went.
They're both CBS games.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
From the jump, I understand, but that's not how it
normally goes.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
So you draft, you're you're the one who does TV
at Fox. You tell me, I'm a local guy.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Okay, So so you have so what week is this?
Week thirteen?
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Week thirteen?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Okay, So you have a draft before the season starts,
and you typically look at and this this happens in
college abams.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
In NFL, you typically.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Look at various matchups and which ones you think are
going to be the best, and you'd like to highlight
those ones if you're Fox and CBS in the four
o'clock windows, those are the bigger viewing windows for NFL
on Sundays for both those networks, And so a lot
of times, because Fox has the NFC, CBS has the AFC,
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they will swap out. They'll trade different matchups for different
matchups depending on, you know what, they think there's gonna
be a big game that weekend or matchup they'd like
to have. So again, a divisional matchup Panthers Bucks. Panthers
obviously have been awful this year. Bucks still trying to
make their way back into it. Not a great game.
Not sure how that was necessarily viewed before the season.
(11:12):
What the expectations were. But my guess is that there
has been some sort of swamp at some case where
they had the opportunity to, you know, swap out a game.
It could have been this week, it could have been
another week. You don't necessarily know. But it doesn't really
make much sense for them to make an announcement how
they're moving back one of these games in the one
(11:33):
pm window only because you know, that's not as big
of a window if you're trying to highlight it, you'd
rather be at the four o'clock window.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Well, listen, if you're a Panthers and a Bucks fan,
chew on that that's where they think your team is at.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
You're getting five treatment.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I'll put it this way.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Here are the CBS games in the four o'clock window. Okay,
it's just Panthers, Bucks, that's it.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
So what I'm saying to you is what's the bigger
game those Bucks or Broncos Texans.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
It's Broncos Texans.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Okay, here's your competition in the one o'clock window on CBS. Cardinals, Steelers, Colts, Titans, Chargers, Patriots,
all those other games are going on at one So
your best game that you have of that day is
Broncos Texans.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
Ye, and instead of highlighting.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
It solely in four pm, the four pm window, you're
putting it at one o'clock.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
It's gonna get make any sense, Well, I think it's
gonna get more eyeballs or more interest in that in
those slate of games than it would against forty nine
Ers Eagles. It's got no chance.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
And then yeah, but but it doesn't matter the entire country.
If you've got CBS would potentially be viewing it at
that particular hour, You've got only two of their games.
You're up against forty nine Ers Eagles, which no doubt
there'll be tough to go up against, but then Browns
and Rams, and then that's on Fox as well, four
twenty five.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
So I know.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
The whole point is if you want to watch that
game Broncos Texans, and you want to it at CBS,
that would be a much more nationally televised game as
opposed to if you're on Fox, it's gonna be regional.
If you're in LA, you're gonna be watching the Rams.
You're not gonna get forty nine Ers Eagles. Or if
you're in a State of Ohio. You're watching the You're
watching the Browns versus the Rams, and then everywhere else
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might be watching forty nine ers Eagles if you're on Fox.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
But that's how typically it would work.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Let's do the country split here if we had to,
as far as interest goes, we'll split a pie. All right,
how much of the country and you got your options Panthers, Bucks, Browns, Rams,
forty nine ers Eagles in that late window. What percentage
of the pie are the forty nine ers in Eagles
getting as far as interest goes.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Because I'm gonna go back to night, I would say
eight percent.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Right, and then I think the the Browns and Rams
will get one and a half, and then a half
percent goes to Panthers box.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
We'll get the Browns fans the only Rams fans probably
don't care at this point.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
Then the Browns fans are curious. It'll be at the beach.
La fans will be at the beach, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we've we've had good weather.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
They'll be shopping at the grove.
Speaker 8 (14:03):
Yeah, they're not even.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
At the grove. Yeah, yeah, it's almost Black Friday. Well,
we'll be good, you know, Yeah, we'll be good.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
So there's there's your rundown for week thirteen and as
everybody races to avoid in.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
The same picture. Are you still confused by I'm not.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I was never confused from the get go, Like I
don't understand what the confusion was. I was simply reporting
that they swapped those out, what game they traded with
them and another.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Am I'm the only one that is like baffled by this?
It makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I think they look at it in competition to Eagles
forty nine ers. They don't want any part of that,
and that's why they took their chances and they went elsewhere.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
So they're going to put their best game and divide
it up amongst.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Four of their games they have at the one o'clock.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Window, it'll be it's the most featured game in that window.
Though as far as for their network.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like it's the most featured
for their network. That necessarily mean it's gonna be the
game that like you're gonna watch it because you're gonna
be divided up amongst your affiliates, So like most featured
in what way if you had no other competition it
would be.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
But now when you have all these other games, like
all these the.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Various markets you're talking about that I have CBS affiliates
are all gonna be tuned into those games.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, maybe they just look at it as the best
matchup of that early window, and so we'll just roll
with that, as opposed.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
To you're gonna roll with that.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Yeah, that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
You're going to roll with that? Jonas Knox, Oh, so.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
You guys, did you guys think that that's not the
best game of that early window? So Colts Titans is
going to be a better matchup then?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
No, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not saying it's not the
best matchup. I'm just saying it's the best matchup it
deserves to be in the four o'clock window.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
That's what he's been trying to tell you the entire segment.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I understand that, LeVar, you didn't need us.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
To both like tag team you on this. I let
you just handle it for you.
Speaker 7 (15:49):
But we're still at the same place clearly at the
end of the segment. Yeah, I have a ride diversified,
So like, let's wrap this up, let me get to
my job. Yeah, definitely, No, you're not going to understand
what Q is giving you, then you're just not going
to understand.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
It, you know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (16:04):
Absolutely, If you don't want to accept it, Jonas, then
you just don't accept it.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Yeah, definitely struggling to understand the whole thing. Here, I
got you, no doubt about it. It is Two Pros
and a Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
So we've got one.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
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Speaker 2 (16:26):
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you again twenty minutes from now, but right.
Speaker 8 (17:35):
Now, Well, what happened to the BQ news?
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Listen a lot going on.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
To Oh no, it's a special edition for Lee today.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
The voices that I hear.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
It's up Pe Hello, Hell yeah, yes, Bar Hello.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
Brady, Hello, good MORNINGO.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
It sounds so jovial this morning.
Speaker 8 (17:52):
I got up a little earlier.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
Yeah yeah, I really do.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You sound like Santa Claus sometimes to be you know,
you bring so much joy when I hear your voice.
Speaker 10 (18:07):
No, no, okay, all right, it's great to be on
with you guys too.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Well a Petros, I gotta ask you did anything at
all at any point. Last Saturday, surprise you about USC
getting stomped out at the Collie by UCLA.
Speaker 10 (18:30):
I guess just the lack of urgency or passion or
the fact that they just kind of laid down. I mean,
there's two big, giant games for USC every year. At
least that's how I grew up and my father grew up.
You know, it's bred in your bones. Notre Dame and
(18:50):
UCLA are really big games, and USC just kind of
laid down in that second half as the fans left,
and they just were deeply uninspired.
Speaker 8 (19:04):
And it's interesting because.
Speaker 10 (19:08):
I do a lot of football during the football season.
As far as calling games, I'm not doing as many
games this year. I don't think it'll end up as
last year was like twenty four games, which is a lot.
This year it's like eighteen or nineteen, and a lot
of the teams I see really change as the season
(19:29):
goes on.
Speaker 8 (19:30):
And I mean this is true in every.
Speaker 10 (19:33):
Level of football and even the NFL, but college it's
really really interesting to see a team evolve through September
and October and kind of become who they are. And
a lot of teams that I see, some of them
kind of middling teams really do improve as the season
(19:56):
goes on as far as developing their identity on off,
developing their line play, and getting more and more young
guys involved that are going to contribute in the future.
And as those guys get more experience, the team gets better.
Speaker 8 (20:12):
That didn't happen at USC.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
I mean, they just they just became more of what
they are, which is like one dimensional front runners, and
they looked more like that against UCLA than they looked
all season long. And you look back on some of
the teams they played on their schedule, I think San
Jose State's won five straight. They developed a hell of
(20:35):
a run game, and they're still in the mix for
the Mountain West Championship despite having a really rough start
to the season as they kind of found their identity.
I think San Jose State would give USC a different
game right now, and I don't think USC would be
inspired to play them tricks.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
Do you think USC wants to play two lane again?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
LeVar?
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Do you think that would be?
Speaker 7 (20:56):
I mean, do you think that would be because Caleb
cry out all of the emotions in the passion of
the team, and the team saw what Caleb was feeling.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 7 (21:08):
No, I'm being listen, I'm being I'm joking, but I'm
being dead.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Ask I have.
Speaker 10 (21:14):
An answer, I really do. I think Lincoln Riley failed
Caleb Williams in preparing him for the next level as
far as that kind of stuff goes, allowing him to
not address the media. Remember he didn't play that great,
but they beat Oregon State last year up at Reeser
Stadium and he didn't talk to the media after that,
(21:34):
and I think it's three times.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
This year he didn't. He didn't speak.
Speaker 10 (21:38):
And that's fine if you're going to go on and
become an accountant or something. But you know, this is
a guy who's going to be the number one pick
in the draft most likely, and I'm sure that everybody
wants to see him be able to handle that side
of the job because in the NFL, just ask Brandon Staley,
it gets a lot worse.
Speaker 8 (21:58):
The questions that you have to answer are the.
Speaker 10 (22:02):
Same kind after a big, gigantic college football game.
Speaker 8 (22:05):
But I think, just.
Speaker 10 (22:06):
Like Lincoln Riley kind of failed Alex Grinch, I think
Lincoln Riley failed Caleb Williams in that regard. This is
his team and if their problems on it that are systemic.
They're his problems, and it's amazing to me that they've
been able to kind of distribute blame and compartmentalize things
when that's not the way a football team works. But
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I really do think that they just became more and
more Caleb oriented. They didn't ever really develop a run game. Obviously,
the defense got worse and worse and worse as the
season went on. They didn't generate any turnovers, which sort
of masked some of their problems last year. And it was,
I don't know, probably the most disappointing USC football season
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that I can remember in a long time, I think ever,
because you had the returning Heisman winner.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
Yeah, I mean, look, no doubt, and I really thought
with what they had coming back, he was gonna have
a shot at winning it two years in a row,
which is unfortunate because he's an incredibly talented player.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
But I want to talk more about Lacon Riley.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
If you look at Clay Helton's first full two years
as head coach, not the twenty fifteen season where he
took over for Sark when he had to leave of absence.
Like I got it, you'd have to admit like you
probably felt better about where the program was then than
you do right now after two full years of Lincoln Riley,
do not. I mean, they had won the Rose Bowl,
they'd finished like the top what top three that particular
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year in twenty sixteen, and then I want to say,
like the next year they won the Pac twelve, and
then I think what they lost in the Cotton Bowl
that year, But like, I don't know, I mean, I
guess I think back to that Petro so I'm thinking
to myself at that time, I didn't feel like.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
It just it feels odd, Like I almost feel like,
how does.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
This even compare it to how you felt about the
Clay Helton era Lincoln Riley After two full years.
Speaker 10 (23:59):
Brady, let me start by saying, you don't even know
what kind of you if I even know, you don't
even know.
Speaker 8 (24:05):
You really don't, And.
Speaker 10 (24:10):
I hate to agree with you, but I mean to
say the program seemed more stable under a guy that
the idiot administration fired on a tarmac, Lane Kiffin or
Steve Sarkisian, who was fired for well publicized personal problems
and a whole bunch that we've never publicized over the years.
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And then of course the Clay Helton area era. This
I said it on the radio yesterday. This seems more
hopeless because I mean you could say, yeah, you know,
they got they've got fifteen bowl practices to develop the
line and the delac do they know how? You know,
his Lincoln Riley proven that he knows how to develop
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an offensive or defensive line. I don't think so. They
certainly don't know how to develop a defense. And I
love how these people talk. I mean, people are so
stupid when it comes to college football, especially in the
modern era. They say like, well, you know, you just
hit the transfer portal get some line, but no, ahh
It's like no, you know, the teams that have success
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with that are teams that recruit out of high school. Yeah,
they plug people in from jc's and transfers, but mostly
the offensive and defensive line is created by people who
have been there since they were young, and they've grown
up in the program and they watch somebody who's really
good at preparing and playing and they emulated that guy,
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and when that.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
Guy graduated, they filled the role. That's how you have
to do it.
Speaker 10 (25:46):
And if you look at the top five or whatever teams,
that's what their freaking fronts are I mean almost almost
all of them. You know, TCU was a burp in
the universe last year and they fell right back down
to earth. So what I'm saying saying is, you know us,
he has to do some serious soul searching and or
Jen Cohen, the new athletic director, has just got to
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get them out of this somehow make it uncomfortable for
him to where he wants to go, somewhere in the
South or to the NFL, because they do seem like
they're in a really deep hole. And Caleb Williams is
going to leave, and he was the only thing you
depended on. Suddenly you're going to have a balanced football
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team in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Good lucky.
Speaker 10 (26:32):
If they played Arizona right now, they get freaking beared
down upon.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah, and they were fortunate to win that game because
Jedfish didn't overtime rules.
Speaker 10 (26:41):
So when Lincoln Riley comes out and says like, oh,
we're only four plays away, it's like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 7 (26:47):
So are you saying that bringing Louis luggage and getting
rid of the luggage that's already there doesn't necessarily work
or payoff in turning things around. So do you think
that was like an aborray u for USC last year
to have even though they came up short as well,
It's not like they won won anything really last year,
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but it was considered a successful year.
Speaker 10 (27:13):
Right if they beat Utah, they would have played in
the playoffs. So yeah, there you go, you know, but
and you win a Heisman, but you turn around and
lose to Tulane in your New Year six Bowl, and
everybody forgot about that as they fanned the flames of
championship talk in the off season. So I mean, I
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I think they were better off last year. I mean,
their defense was better. It's crazy to say, but they
were way better. They forced a bunch of turnovers, especially
they got Dtyr to turn it over like four times,
and that's how they beat UCLA. Otherwise Ucla was going
to beat them. But I think you look at it
right now, and you look at who us he is
and how all these air raid guys seem to be
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hiding there, and you're like, well, you know, where is
it gonna come from next year? And have these guys
proven an ability to do anything that they said they
were gonna do? And the answer is no, I do
want to say something else to you guys today. If
that's okay, sure, I mean I've been uh, you know,
(28:16):
I I research the teams I got to call. If
I didn't, that would be really bad, right, And ye,
exactly right. I don't know, Jim, what do you think
they're gonna do here, Tony? I don't know, Jim.
Speaker 8 (28:35):
God damn. It's easy when you're an analyst.
Speaker 10 (28:38):
All you have to say is like, yeah, I think
they'll go to the tight end, even if he's not
on the field, say it, it's probably gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Is amazing.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Then he then he talks over nance till almost the
step He's like, it looks like they're gonna putz.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
Jim.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
It's like, well, yeah, everyone can tell that now, Jim.
Speaker 10 (28:58):
I listened to, you know, sometimes to prepare for a
team that I haven't seen, I watch like a podcast,
you know, like Baylor West Virginia or whatever, you know,
and uh, and obviously I get emails from USC and
I hear the commercials for UCLA on this station in
LA and it's these nil collectives, right, like a house
(29:23):
of fight on fingers or whatever, and you know, and
you know, like I'm watching the West Virginia one, and
they're like, you know, listen.
Speaker 8 (29:32):
They're gonna come and poach your players.
Speaker 10 (29:35):
They're gonna come and offer what right, when the right
when the season ends, they're gonna come and try to
take them. We gotta give hard money to Country Roads Collected.
And I'm just like, you know, it's a holiday season.
I know that the portal's about to open, but this
is the gross fall. College football is filled with a
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lot of things that are gross and terrible and a
lot of great, and it makes it a cauldron of
a bunch of stuff that you can't just point your
finger and say it's bad or that it's good.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
But this is bad.
Speaker 10 (30:11):
People don't have any money, and to sit there and
berate your fan base that's already spending money on t
shirts and tickets and hot dogs and beer and whatever
else you're getting milked out of them. They're susceptible to
all your commercials and your billion dollar TV deal. You know,
to sit here and ask everybody for fifty.
Speaker 8 (30:30):
Bucks so Alabama doesn't take our players.
Speaker 10 (30:33):
You know, this is so stupid. Obviously, it's not really
what the letter of the law or the spirit of
the law is supposed to be for nil and just
sitting here begging your fan base for money instead of
just doing what respectable football programs have done for decades
and decades, which is just take it from some dork
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billionaire who wants to be around the players.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
It's it's just it's very unsavory to me. I I
I don't. I don't know if I've ever been more
turned off.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
I understand what you're saying. I understand what you're saying.
But here's the reality of it. Here's the reality of
it is university says done the exact same thing for
a long time in their own way.
Speaker 10 (31:19):
Like that grosses me out too. I think that's all
from us on the table. Yeah, you're right, You're absolutely right, Brady.
Speaker 8 (31:27):
It grows.
Speaker 10 (31:29):
A university where they're not making uh they're not doing construction.
You know, they're not building something new. Have you ever
been to a campus where it's not, you know, they're
building some brand new, spectacular building, have you?
Speaker 5 (31:43):
You know, I mean they're always building.
Speaker 10 (31:45):
They're they're they have money, and they're still asking you
after you're still paying off your student loans, you know,
and and working your ass off, you know, for for
donations shre billions.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
They're billion dollar indwans. Think about the interests that spit
off from that. Do you really need to continue to
keep fundraising that's to that extent like that, That's why
it doesn't really make sense at this point.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
It grosses me out.
Speaker 10 (32:13):
Just call the same billionaire a holes that you've been
calling for years leave people alone.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
Well, well that's what they're doing.
Speaker 7 (32:20):
They're just trying to redirected away from the school through
a for profit to pay to players.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
You're right, Pet, that's exactly what you're doing.
Speaker 7 (32:29):
Yeah, we're thankful for you.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
Happy give and it's.
Speaker 10 (32:34):
A happy Thanksgiving to you guys, and congratulations on another
great football season.
Speaker 8 (32:39):
There's all many things. Jonas has a new very successful show, sure, Brady.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
I mean they had to replace you, guys, because that's
needed to be better. You know, you're right, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 10 (32:52):
Things everything must change winter, winter turns to spring. You know,
Jonas has had a new successful TV in Aline Bar.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
You know, just here your.
Speaker 10 (33:04):
Family is thriving in the sport of football, and new
exciting things are happening. And you had a great year
on the radio and doing all the things you do
and Brady, what a great year on Big New Kickoff.
You made it into Matt Lioner. It's a TikTok.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Yeah, that's an accomplishment.
Speaker 10 (33:21):
And you know you continue to work with your charity
and all the great things and be a big TV
personality with.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Your hair and head, big horse.
Speaker 10 (33:30):
Congratulations to all all of you, and and Brady with
a with a new born this year.
Speaker 7 (33:35):
So what way to go? Hey, how's the lizard? By
the way, I get asked, what the listen? Yeah, I
wanted to know about the lizard. What does he get out?
I was worried about spacific thanksgiving me. No, no, maybe
that's not a bad idea. But I never put a
little hat on her.
Speaker 10 (33:49):
But uh I, I was worried a little worried about
the lizard because of the she wasn't eating as much.
Speaker 8 (33:56):
Uh So I was worried.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
But she started eating again. Is she pregnant?
Speaker 8 (34:00):
No? No, I don't see how that could happen.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
I just don't know.
Speaker 8 (34:04):
You know, toilets around.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Here, lizard crawled in there.
Speaker 7 (34:09):
There are a lot of lizards that are running around
around here.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
You know, one might have just came up there, came by.
Speaker 7 (34:16):
Man, it might have been the pac Man lizard seeing
the other lizard and said, oh my goodness, I wanted
a homies.
Speaker 10 (34:22):
I'm a homegirl, Danny the lizard with a little mustache,
you know, yeah, I'm not, uh but uh.
Speaker 8 (34:32):
We got a new terrarium which was nice.
Speaker 7 (34:35):
They do have beard at lizards though, that they really do,
so I guess it's a beard if we have a
Mustacheio lizard.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
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Speaker 2 (36:08):
Two pros and show what even know, If they're in,
if they're out?
Speaker 8 (36:15):
Alright, lead to love.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
What do we got guys?
Speaker 6 (36:17):
We're gonna have a special Thanksgiving edition of you in
or out? And let's just skip right to uh dessert.
Are you guys more pumpkin pie or pecan pie?
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Guys?
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Pecan?
Speaker 7 (36:26):
Oh, you gotta throw sweet potato in there too, though.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
You're right right, you don't have to if you don't want.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
You do. I mean, yes, you do, And I'm going
sweet potato.
Speaker 7 (36:35):
If you if you take it, you know it's it's
it's Thanksgiving.
Speaker 5 (36:38):
That's a Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Is that a side dish? Or is that an actual pie?
That's a pie.
Speaker 8 (36:44):
I'm gonna respect it.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
I'm gonna respect your question.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
I'm a sweet potato pie? Is a pie?
Speaker 1 (36:49):
I used to be. I used to be pumpkin. I'm
not a pie guy really at all. But I think
I'm switched to pecan now. Yeah, if you had sweet
potato pie, you'd switch to that.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Totally disagree.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Well, I've had like sweet potatoes a side dish, but
I haven't had a pie.
Speaker 7 (37:04):
Yeah, interesting, guys.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
I used to always be out on cranberry sauce, some
called cranberry relish. Are you guys in or out on
cranberry sauce?
Speaker 5 (37:10):
Out out?
Speaker 3 (37:12):
And I don't know last time I had it, but
I think the last time I had.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
It was that makes sense. Yeah, I'll go ahead, So
into it you have, you can't remember the last time.
Speaker 6 (37:21):
You Yeah, listen, guys. It's often debated. Do you let
your food touch each other?
Speaker 7 (37:25):
Do you mix it out it's leftovers?
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Really?
Speaker 5 (37:29):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (37:30):
I mix it all together, not till it's leftover. Yeah,
I mean it is your stomach anyway.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
There is something too, like you on your fork. You
get a piece of turkey.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
Some want to taste it cheese, Yes, I want to
taste it, and then I want to add the taste.
My belly isn't tasting my mouth is, so I don't
want my I don't want to taste cranberry sauce running
into my greens or into my mac and cheese or.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 7 (37:58):
But I'm just saying if it just for instance, if
somebody were to make me a plate and I didn't
want something that they put on it, then I don't
want it touching because I can easily dispose of it.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
You wouldn't throw that plate right back in their face
if they put a cramba sauce on that.
Speaker 7 (38:13):
Depending on who it is, like, I wouldn't do it
to one of my grandparents when they were around. I
wouldn't do it to my mom. I might do it
to my brothers. I wouldn't do it to my wife.
Might get my kids if they do it. You know,
it just depends on the level. There's levels to it,
you know.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
I believe we got time for one more. High school?
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Are you in your nite?
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Also known as drinksgiving? You guys?
Speaker 8 (38:31):
Ent are out?
Speaker 4 (38:32):
No?
Speaker 5 (38:33):
I know you're in high school. I'm out there.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
You see all I can't be seen.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
Happy Thanksgiving.