November 28, 2023 • 38 mins
The guys wonder is Aaron Rodgers can make a run for Comeback Player of the year. They breakdown the latest college football hires and fires. Plus a debate over cheese and crackers and much more on “You In Or Out?”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Give this part.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Oh hell yeah, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
Fox Sports Radio. By the way, is this gonna be
the last show that we hear Jimmy Hendricks? I mean
Lee has asked us to send over the song requests.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Oh, mine's in, Mine is in.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I actually had to pick from three too, so I
feel like, I, you know, I might just steal yours.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Jonas, Nah, they just you're just gonna have a disappointing song.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Are they going to be on tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Will? Why are you so quick to answer that, Lee?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
You don't think we could get turned around that quick?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Here? What are you trying to see?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Maybe trying to surprise us on a hump day.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
He said, no, quick as hell, if you damn, I
mean tomorrow immediately, probably not. I mean we could try.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
It's like going on listen to a busy time.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
But it's not Lead doing it right.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
No, he's not doing It's a.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Better today for me would be in tomorrow for sure.
If you don't can do it, Vito can do it all.
You can do it all you can. That's my guy.
He came in yesterday, he was in. He was when
we were leaving out.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
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or a Stick City? Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Huh? You had like a cool little like that, some
Stick City, some good merch. It is some really good merches.
Thank you. Make sure you get your Stick City merch.
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Speaker 4 (02:14):
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and help the all the editors will fork out sixty
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Speaker 1 (02:27):
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Stick City.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, I mean, I mean Stick it in and stick
the sticks in, you.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Know, yeah, if you want to, if you want to
stuff that stocking, there's there's no other place to.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Get stuff that's stocking with some sticks. Yeah know what
I mean, that's right. That is a great point. I'm
sure it's a big stick that you're sticking into that
stock stocking the stuff too. You know, great point there
you go, great, feel good about that sown? Yeah yeah, yeah,
it was teetering. It was teetering.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Okay, all right, all right, Sam, just want to be
clear here, I had nothing to do with that. I'm
just trying to play nice because I don't want to. Uh,
we're not trying to piss off Iowa Sam here, all.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Right, I mean you do know that that's you do
know that that's dumpable, right, the p O work. You know,
I can't say that, Okay, okay, okay, good.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
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my game last night, and hey, you.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Know what, what it happens, It happened, that was the
game ever it happened.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Was and you know, Cairo Santos, you know, I mean, listen,
I texted somebody last night. Scott Shapiro is a diehard
Minnesota Vikings fan. He's our lord and savior, and I
told him, you know, fuad Ravez and Kevin Butler would
be proud because that was a Kickers fest last night
and a turnover fest and it looked like old school
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nineteen nineties NFC Central Football. But it does bring up
the conversation that we were having over the past couple
of weeks. When you're looking at comeback player of the year,
Josh Dobbs has got to be in the conversation for
comeback player of the year, seeing what he's done bouncing
around the league, just looking at everything that he's accomplished
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thus far from all these different difficult situations he's been
in and Minnesota, even though it didn't look good last
night and he had the turnovers without Justin Jefferson. They
do have the final wild card spot in the NFC.
And I noticed something that there's all saw another name
that has popped up in the Comeback Player of the
Year award list, and I want to see if you
guys know who that is. If you had to guess
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who might be a surprise candidate or somebody you didn't
think you'd see in the Comeback Player of the Year
award race, if you had to guess.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
If I had to guess, I don't know. I'm trying
to think of the criteria that'd be involved. You could
include Russell Wilson, could.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
You he's in there, he's in the discussion. But he
played yeah, twenty to one, well, but he played poorly,
So maybe that's what he's coming back from.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Well is that what the definition is?
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Then?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, I don't know what the definition is.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well, it's kind of a I thought it was coming
off of injury.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Yeah, I mean, look, Damar Hamlin is obviously the favorite.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
He's still the favorite.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
He's still the favorite. He said if he played one play,
he's getting it. We did say that at the beginning
of the year.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I mean, look, no disrespect, I just Dobbs's season has
been unbelievable. Despite even last night's game, they saw a chance.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
To win it in the end. And but don't just
think that's the.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
First three plus interception game he's had in the NFL
or college.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And I get that, but let's be clear that man
basically was on his way up out of here on
the field in front of the entire viewing audience. If
he played one play, if he came back and played
one play. We said this at the beginning of the year. Yeah,
well you said it, Jonas. I don't want to take
credit for what you said. I don't care if he played,
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If he played one down of football, I wouldn't be
surprised if that's the only reason why they brought him
back was just to get him on the field for
one play, because I don't think he's played. He hasn't
played since, right, He hasn't been active. He played what.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Was the game that they lost in primetime the Bills
seems like they should a lot of those, but there
was a game they lost, oh Man, where he was
brought out defensively in for a couple of series later.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Only I think the only reason why he is on
that roster is for the elements of comeback player of
the year and feel good stories surrounding the franchise.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Okay, here's the interesting name that has all of a
sudden popped up on the list.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Aaron Rodgers. If he comes back and plays one down,
that's my football. That's the guy. I mean. I'm sorry, Damar.
I know you was about dead. He was ready to
be up out of here. But I'm sorry, Damar. Aaron
Rodgers is going trump one play if he if he
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trots his ass out on that field for one play
and comes off, he's getting it. He's He's in the
running right now.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
So Rodgers is at ten to one this according to
DraftKings Tomorrow, Hamlin's the favorite at a minus one seventy five.
And then you've got two A tugabay loat at two
point fifty.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
So he in two a plus two last year he did,
but he got hurt. He got hurt, but he did
He's still played. And then you've got man, what a
comeback after a comeback player meant you had to come
back from something. I really like that took you away
an injury like.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
He were like with the demor Hamlin thing. It's like
he's back, but it's like he's not playing as much
as some of the other guys who are up for it.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Right, I mean, he's not playing at all.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Really, Lee, how many snaps does DeMar Hamlin have this year?
I'm gonna say under ten, because I know he played
a handful of snaps in a in a game due
to injury. And then for the most part, he's been
he's healthy.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Been in two games because he's got to tackle in
two games this season.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Two games, and he's been a healthy scratch majority of
I think I'm.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Saying he's played in three games. Excuse me.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
If Rogers comes back in the same season he tore
his achilles over, that's it.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
That's it. That's it. Story's written.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
And and I do think he is going to come back.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I believe that he will.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
And I don't care that they're going to be out
of the playoffs and they're bad. I think he's got
everything to prove. And this was a situation where like
you had, like I don't know if you saw Greg Doyle,
who covers he's been covering sports for a long time
in Indianapolis, but he sent out a tweet a few
days ago in which he said that he doesn't believe
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that Rogers actually tore his achilles. That you know, Rogers
has lied before about things so on and so forth,
and and that right there.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Listen, by the.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Way, that's why people are going to AI. That's journalistic.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
There you go, because that's not going to do that.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
They're not going to But I look at it, and
I go, this is exactly why Rogers would come back,
just to be like, look for anybody that's still got
bad blood and still uptight about you know, the immunized
craft that went on a couple of years ago. All Right,
I got something for you, same season. I tear my achilles.
I'm gonna do what nobody else has done. If he
comes back and plays Rogers is gonna win.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Come back. I asked you a question about Aaron Rodgers.
It's totally off top it, but if Aaron Rodgers was
a Ritz Cracker eater, would he use cheese or would
he use peanut butter and jelly? Do you think he's
a peanut butter and jelly type of guy? I'm just curious. Well, like,
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for instance, if Aaron Rodgers were to eat Oreo cookies.
Do you think he just eats on them? Or does
he take the pop pop one of them off and
and you know, hit the icing up before he eats it,
or doesn't even eat the outsides at all. Weird, I know,
But but.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I did hear that.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
I did hear that Lee ignores the middle on an
oreo some reason.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Just what what?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
That's what I heard.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Okay, you're gonna shoot a messenger, That's what I heard.
And you're able to tell a lot from Lee by
the fact that he skips the middle and he just
wants the outside. That's what I was just trying to
understand about about Aaron Rodgers. And by the way, on.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
The rich cracker question, who puts jelly on a rich cracker?
I've only heard just peanut butter or cheese. I've never
heard jelly is an option on a ritch crack.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Peanut butter and jelly. Yeah, just you went and put
peanut butter and jelly on a cracker. Just peanut butter.
Oh well, I've heard of peanut butter and jelly being
on a cracker. Well I've offended. I'm sorry, I mean
it that way.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
So that being said, Okay, Roder, thank you, Sam, have
you ever done it jelly with the peanut butter and
ritz cracker peanut butter and jelly on a cracker?
Speaker 6 (12:08):
I have not. It would be fine. It seems like
a lot of work. Wow, that's the point. There's not
a lot of surface area that's at the surface area.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I mean, it just feels like it would fall off.
But what if you got goobers? It sounds good goobers?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Is that like the mix?
Speaker 4 (12:23):
The mix they still make that laziest invention on planet Earth? Yeah,
come on like one at a time.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
All right, Well, anyways, I just wanted to know if,
like how you think Aaron Rodgers mind works, because honestly,
he spread to ayahuasca on his with ritz Cracker, So
you think he would go with like cheese, like cheese
and wig with aahuasca cheese? Way good? Yeah, but easy
cheese in the can. Because I want to know how
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a guy that can come back from that type of
an injury in the same season and the amount of
time that like, what how does his mind? Is he
using the rite or to left side? Is he using
the frontal lobe or you know, the core tex? What
is that the core text of Like what parts of
they say you only use ten percent of your brain.
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Aaron Rodgers may use a larger percentage of his brain
and that's why he's able to come back from that injury.
So I was just wondering what we might think his
habits of how he eats crackers would be just helped
me out.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Don't know, but I mean he should be returning to
practice soon, you think so like next week. That's the
conversation that's happening.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
That's wild as hell, man, Oh that's wild broh, Like
it's so like what is it called? Like uncomprehensible incomprehensible,
Like it's just like I know what that I know
what that s felt like for me when I tore
my Achilles tendon. And I've dealt with pain very well
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in my life, that was the worst pain I have
ever endured in my life. I've been in a moment
motor cycle accident, I have, I have dealt with some
serious issues pain wise, and that achilles tendon post surgery
pain had me like, you know how you be in
so much pain off of something or something just it
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hits you and it hurts you so bad that you
have to pause and in the moment of what you're feeling,
and then tears start moving on you and you don't
even have control over it. Like I was in tears
and had so many pause moments like like like like
shake your fingers type pain. That pain is so intense.
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That's just that just blows me away. That just blows
me away, that that he would actually be able to
get through that type of pain that quickly. By the way,
work out the scar tissue, because when they're breaking that
scar tissue down in your achilles hell in your leg,
that is some of the wildest pain as well. It's
just a lot of pain involved with with that achilles tended.
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You got to break up the scar tissue, you gotta
stretch it back out, you got to keep stretching it.
You got to strengthen, strengthen your your foot, you got
to strengthen your ankle, you got to strengthen your calf.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
So, yeah, is there a chance he's on the ballafer
Comeback player of the year purely based off media speculation?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I mean, if you.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Think about it, yeah, probably Why would you Why would
you risk coming back to be able to say you
did Yeah, yeah, that's it, because they're not going to
have any playoff hopes.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
That, Yeah, this is purely personal. I would assume Glazier.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I think Glazier had the report on Fox a couple
of weeks ago that Rogers even his idea is even
if he's not able to move at one hundred percent,
which is you know, obviously he probably wouldn't be it
to happen less than three months ago, that he still
wants to come back because he wants to prove that
he can do this and do it in the same.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
It's a personal This is a personal thing, and he'll
be remember and he'll be remembered forever for being the
guy who came back in the same season that that
ruptured his Achilles tendant and came back the same exact
year from rupturing his achilles tendon, and that will be
one of the one of the crowning moments of his career,
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is that he was able to do something that no
one else has ever ever done.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, and I don't doubt that.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I guess I just kind of look at and say,
you know, some sports book will be, sports books will
be they'll put it out there if people.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Are willing to put their money on him. Yeah, even
if there's no chance.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
To say, can you imagine if he did it? Though,
like the people will take that bet. The people will
take that bet. Jeez.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
I would be at this point more surprised if he
doesn't come back and play than if he does.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I would be looking at his closest friends and seeing
if they're placing bets on his return. That's what I
would want to do. Like if you could get a
hold of Age Day and ask him if he's placing
any bets on a right coming back to be the
comeback player of the Year and he said, yes, I'm
I'm I'm gonna put I'm gonna put a substantial amount
of money down. Listen.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
As a broadcast professional, he wouldn't very true.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
But if he's doing Q and confidence that I'm not
betting it. But I'm just saying, if I were a
betting man, I bet it. I'm betting you act like
I almost.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Think it's I almost think it's a little bit like
negligent for Jonas to throw it out there without the
caveat or disclaimer, because you're almost giving bad betting advice,
like you're making people aware of it. Who made go
lay out that bet when really it could be a loser,
and I would be one hundred percent blaming Jonas Knox
in this case.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I just I think it's like, you know, we're talking
about you know, people broadcasters gambling like you pretty like
LeVar actually, like AJ's ever come on this network before
and talked about betting on the comeback at the Kentucky
Derby or.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Even we've first heard about that bet though, haven't you.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
No, Oh, it's actually tell me it's actually it's actually
a great bet. So at the Derby when everyone's betting
on obviously the races, a j and Aaron and like
a few of the other packers guys, they have a
whole crew that goes every year, they bet on what's
called the comeback bet. So they bet on the first
horse to come back once they're finished, to be the
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first one that like end like off the track. So
they call it the comeback bet. It's pretty amazing because
everyone starts cheering, all right, they all they all start
cheering when the race is over, and what the heck
is happening the races?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
The bet is not over. Yeah, no, it's not over.
Who Yeah, it's just you.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Know, yeah, that's how it works. So look, I'm just saying, uh,
if comeback Player of the Year, if that's something you
want to gamble on, there's not wonder they had leather
on weather, right, so definitely hope. So it is Two
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We are going to a close up shop here with
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yours here from the tire rack dot Com studios. Apparently
money is not much of an issue for Texas A
and M. They already owe what what is Jimbo Fisher getting?
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What's he getting like seventy seven million something like?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, seventy seven million, not all at once though it
gets paid out over a period of years.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Well, Mike Elko, who is the dukehead coach, he is
now the next head coach at Texas A and M.
He will take over in college. They pay well, here's
the tractual numbers that we're looking at here. Ultimately this
according to ESPN, it's a six year contract. Get a
base salary of seven million dollars per year, but with
several college football play two yeah, several college football playoff incentives.
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Here he gets one million dollars for a college football
playoff appearance, three one point five for advancing to the
college football playoff quarterfinals four point five or winning the
SEC Too many.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
That's per year, by the way, if he had sending
those incentives in each year.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Wow, two million dollars for a college football playoff semi
final appearance, two point five for a college football playoff
game title game appearance, three point five million for a
national title. And the contract includes eleven million dollars salary
pool for assistance and support staff. And uh, yeah, he's
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getting paid and he's off leaving Durham and in College
station to take over there for the Aggies.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Which I'll be honest with you, it's it's not.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I mean, I like the way the attracted structure for
Texas and m you know, it's not You're not paying
him close to the top. He's very well paid, don't
get me wrong, but this is a university. It's paying
off a guy who's making seventy seven million not to coach.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
So from that standard, it's like, well, that's not that much, right, I.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Mean, LaVar, you just crunch the numbers where we say
some of the forties for a seven year deal.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yes, I mean Jimbo's getting more.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yes, So you know, I think it's a smart structure
because they're essentially rewarding him for success, which is ultimately
what you want to do. So he's rewarded. And I'll
say this if they win a national championship. Okay, three
point five million is out what the bonus is?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah? Now, of course, like.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
If he makes all of those incentives along the way,
Like what would that add up to?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
That's another what seven million on top of that?
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Like you said, that's if it were yearly, you're you're
talking about, yeah, like seven million, seven point five So
so it.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Takes you up to about fourteen points. So you'd be
the highest paid in that case based on what you've earned.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
A six year deal, six or seven six six year deal. Yeah,
so that he's in Texas, so that helps no.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
State ofum tax, Yeah, it helps.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
But the general point is this is you're rewarding him
for this success of their team. You're not just giving
him a big, you know, bunch big sum of money
and saying here you go, like we trust that you'll
you know, figure it out and win a national championship.
And so that the point is it's a smart structured
contract compared to what they just dealt with with Jimbo Fisher.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
And I'd say this, even if you pay him.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
An national seven million and they win a national championship,
do you not think the university is going to make more.
I mean seven million for a national championship to your
head coach through all those incentives on top of that.
You know, so what fourteen million whatever it is total
one one year, that's chump change compared to what the
university is actually gonna make if Texas and m was
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to win a national championship. So I think this is
a very well structured contract that could work for both parties.
If Mike Elko is successful, he'll get compensated like one
of the top coaches in college football or the top coach.
And you know, if he's not, he won't And that
actually says the downside risk for Texa San em in
this case, given again the monumental largest in the history
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of college football buyout that we saw for Jimbo Fisher.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
I'm just a little confused because I like I was
hearing that Ryan Day was interested in the job or
they were interested in him. So I'm a little confused
as to it feels like there was a lot of
reports and rumors out there that just kind of died
over the way it was legitimate, though, were they Yeah,
didn't Urban Was urban Meyer laughing at the report or
something like that?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
When well, it was Bruce Feldon's report.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
So if you're going to take a shot at the report,
you'd be taking a shot at Bruce, which I could
promise you this. They're legitimate in the sense of at
least how tex san unfelt. Then maybe they could get
an interview from that, which was what the report was.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Do you do you think Ryan Day would have seriously
entertained the job?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I would say to Lvar's point, generally, you should always
entertain every opportunity. Yes, Like I talk about this all
the time from a front office perspective. If I'm John
Lynch and he called the Patriots a number of years
in a row and asked, Hey, is Tom Brady available?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Nope?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Okay, cool, you make them say no. If you're Texas
A and M and you're saying, we want to cast
the widest that we can, we call John Gruden. Maybe
we called right, like you want to call every possible
coach you think is a good coach and going to
help you win, regardless of what other circumstances that the
media are, people on the outside talk about.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
You call them and you ask and make them say no.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
If you think they're an upgrader, you think they can
help you win, you make them say no before you
move on.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
So look, Ryan Day is a great coach.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I'm sure Texas A and M was hoping if they lost
maybe there'd be an opportunity for them to get him
as a head coach or at least talk to him
about becoming their head coach.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
It's kind of wild that Ryan Days got only one
other loss outside of the Michigan gain.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
They about getting rid of him.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, that's the difference. He's got what six losses or
something like that. It's like, that's the difference is if
Ohio State doesn't want them, and all the Buckeye Nation
bands are like, hey, you know we can't be Michigan.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
We want to move on. Okay, well someone else will
gladly take Ryan Dasoner.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
One loss, your one loss, You're one went away from perfection,
and they talking about firing you. I told her. I
was on social media. I told them people. I said,
if y'all were held to the same standard that y'all
beholding your coach to for for one one games and
lost games in your own personal life and in your job,
you would be fired. You'd be unemployed, right if you
(27:39):
had to live up to that standard that you're sitting
there judging that man off of you would have no job.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I would say this though, growing up in Columbus, Ohio
and living through the John Cooper era, being a recruit
for Jim Tressel, and understanding there's respect there, I also
think there's a fair amount of hatred, like and I
think that's it's okay to it.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Admit that.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I've heard people try to downplay that rivalry. It's like, no,
man like Michigan. They don't like each other.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
I get that part.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Like there's there's cattiness too to just people who live
in in both states. So all I'm saying is it's
like it's because someone asked the question if Ohio State
went six and six next year but be Michigan, would
that be a good year. Well, in some people's mind, yes,
like like like that's how crazy it is. And some
people's mind, yes, if they won that one game, regardless
(28:33):
of how the rest of the season went, it would
be a good season. It's crazy to think that way,
but that's that's how that rivalry is. It is the
greatest rivalry in college football. I would say it argues
any rivalry in any sport, in any sport.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I don't have a problem with with all of that.
I just have a problem with your your I told
people this when when the whole Franklin stuff hit, because
he has two losses over you know, four losses over
the last two years, and it's to the same two teams,
and I'm like, are you closer to elite or are
you closer to mediocrity? And to me? And we talked
(29:14):
about this earlier in the show when we talked about
right getting fired and how you run things. This is
a people ran, people led type of business in the
industry and category. If you're closer to elite, I'd rather
try to figure out how to get to elite versus
take the risk of I'm going to bring somebody else
(29:34):
new end and although they may be an elite coach,
you're still taking the risk in a tremendous chance that
you may lose where it is that you're at.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
I mean, remember we made the point a couple months ago.
Nebraska fans wanted bo Polini.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Out crazy and they haven't been that good since. He's
been the best they've had in a lot haven't been
that good since. So you're right there, at it. Fans
be you know, and I get it. Like I said,
I listen if if that's your rivalry, I get it.
You know, the rivalry was pretty strong still. When I
went to Washington, I hadn't witnessed a rivalry outside of
(30:09):
high school North allegating North Hills. That's a hate rivalry.
But at the highest level it was. Washington and Dallas
were a tremendously heated rivalry. It used to be and
it was still at that feverish pitch that you could
lose every game, but as long as you win the
games against Dallas, it's like it's a win of a season,
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which is crazy to think, but that's how our fans.
A lot of fans thought. I get it, but I don't.
I just don't. I don't understand why you would be
okay with just that win. Like work to be great,
it's not just about winning the rivalry games. I know
that's what makes it fun for fans, but it's still
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talking about winning it as a whole. What does that
look like as a whole, not just one singular part,
one singular piece. You're one game away from being perfect
one game and you rather fire him because he didn't
win that one game. That's just I don't it just
doesn't compute well for me.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
That's like growing up, it was always Hilliard, Davidson and
Dublin Goffman.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
For my god, why do you do this? What are
you talking about?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I mean, it's just you. You try so hard to
act like you're from there, James. I will say this
about uh, about Matt Rule and Nebraska, like they went
five and seven this year, which at one point they
were five to three.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
They lost the last four all one scoring games though, and.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
They I think they sneakily could get in a Bowl
game if like some other people's other other squads don't
want to go that are six win teams, they can
qualify because they're APR. But I'm not betting against Nebraska
like slowly building back with Matt Ruhle, like like we've
seen this story before where year one not quite as good,
then like your two, they get better than year three.
They're like they're competing, and I know they're adding a
(31:53):
bunch of teams for the PAC twelve in Oregon and
Washington and obviously USC and UCLA. But it's gonna be
that's gonna an interesting program to watch to see what
Matt Rule can do with them.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
I wonder if Matt Rule called Frank Reich, Yes name
was like, hey, man, come out and.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Have a beer.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Let's share some stories, you know, let's let's share some
fun stories working with David Tepper with all the millions
he paid us to go ahead and be gone.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
The crazy thing is too if you think about the
Matt Rule era in Carolina, they were a far more
competitive football team than what the Panthers were this year.
I mean like they were a seven win team was
the last two years? Yeah, I mean their defense was
playing much better, they were running the football better.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I mean that's the problem is.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I know there was a bunch of turnover on the roster,
but not to the point where they felt they lacked
that much competitiveness.
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Speaker 5 (34:23):
This two pros and a cup of show. What you
to know? If they're in ye please or if they're out?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
All right? Lead to lot. What do we got guys?
Speaker 10 (34:34):
We're talking hires and uh Sam actually brought this to me.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Do you guys?
Speaker 10 (34:38):
Are you guys enter out on the whole Texas A
and M dance? What Mike Elko was doing with press conference,
with the uh everyone their.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Presence, I was shook up. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna
say I'm in because they were all in unison. They
were doing it together. So from the outside, maybe I judge,
but from the inside they looked like they were united.
So I'm in.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
I mean, what is the what's the Mike Elco dance?
Speaker 3 (35:03):
You know how they were all rocking. That was the
one where they're saying back and forth they're doing the stand.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
It's the twelfth Man thing.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
It's a little strange.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
There's some strange stuff out there for tradition. It felt
like it was was that.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Geez, Sam, I don't know. I don't know they do.
They have some weird traditions at Texas and metals Hunting Iowa.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
That's a part of the game that's not weird. Punting
is hunting, is winning.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Hey, by the way, what was the what was the
shirt you set me, Sam, where somebody took an a
C D C logo and they said, Iowa football, you've
been understrusted.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
Rightly, that was Ray Gun. Shout out to Reygun, all right.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Shout out regunt.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Enter out on Tory Taylor getting the Heisman.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Vote out there, you go, I'll pay well, I'll a
voter and I'm not putting up on.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
My pallet sear one to make find a punting. But
then you see Toy Taylor' getting a Heisman.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Focus. You just heard what you said, right.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Damn Well, that's just Brady, you know, Oh wow, there's
other people who are you.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Know, are enthusiasts, enthusiasts of the punt.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
I'm not saying you shouldn't win.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
The Ray guy just absolutely win the Ray guy. Yeah, no,
I agree with you, Brady, that's fan.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I appreciate your career. Sam, You're not completely delusional.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
No, a lot you O care if there Jonason took
your toes, buddy, Yeah, a lot toes.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
Yeah, he's doing the Mike Elcho dancing there a wear
no weirds you guys enter out on the Dolphins bringing
in Jason Pierre Paul Hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
I mean it's unfortunate though, because Jalen Phillips got hurt
and that's why they're obviously making this move.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
But yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
And Met Life Turf gets him again. Huh, there's something
going on there.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Well, the Met Life Turf didn't get j p p
while he was there. Oh geez, it was it was
the firecrackers.
Speaker 8 (36:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
You know what though, is it too soon for that?
Speaker 4 (37:02):
He's had a damn good careers. He have one hundred
sacks in his career.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Still get he still gets sacks right now, still two
day to day.
Speaker 10 (37:11):
I wonder if we'll see him on The Hard Knocks
in season with the Miami Dolphins, which is against the
second episode tout.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, and for Lee, and because I think Mike McDaniel's awesome.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
So I'm in on Mike McDaniel, Yeah, with an S
no US knows McDaniel.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I got Josh Josh McDaniels, and then Mike mcdande all
right and no relation.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Okay, Yeah, I'm good. I'm in. What else we got
keeping it with the Dolphins? Is Jarvis Landris's Jarvis Landry's birthday? Hey,
happy birthday, Jarvis.
Speaker 10 (37:47):
Chase Elliott as well John Stewart Cheese Elliott Chase Elliott
Nascar driver.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
I'll say, who's cheese?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Cheeze?
Speaker 3 (37:56):
That's what we called you back in the day. Geez,
what movie? I know what movie? You enter out?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Oh? Old School? Yeah, cute, cheez gee, you got out.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I'm in. I'm old school.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
We're going strae Chase doesn't know that movie.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
You're My Boy, Blue, You're my boy.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
It's old school, right, Yeah, that's the movie.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
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Waffles are French toast. I'm all in on Auntie.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Kodiac pancakes if you guys have those are the protein ones.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
They are awesome protein pancakes. I'm gonna stay away. You
got Kodiac if you get one of the skill it
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them real well.
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
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Speaker 4 (00:34):
Oh hell yeah, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
Fox Sports Radio. By the way, is this gonna be
the last show that we hear Jimmy Hendricks? I mean
Lee has asked us to send over the song requests.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Oh, mine's in, Mine is in.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I actually had to pick from three too, so I
feel like, I, you know, I might just steal yours.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Jonas, Nah, they just you're just gonna have a disappointing song.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Are they going to be on tomorrow?
Speaker 1 (01:01):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Will? Why are you so quick to answer that, Lee?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
You don't think we could get turned around that quick?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Here? What are you trying to see?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Maybe trying to surprise us on a hump day.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
He said, no, quick as hell, if you damn, I
mean tomorrow immediately, probably not. I mean we could try.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
It's like going on listen to a busy time.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
But it's not Lead doing it right.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
No, he's not doing It's a.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Better today for me would be in tomorrow for sure.
If you don't can do it, Vito can do it all.
You can do it all you can. That's my guy.
He came in yesterday, he was in. He was when
we were leaving out.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
We're in a sweet Uh was it up on game
or a Stick City? Uh?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Huh? You had like a cool little like that, some
Stick City, some good merch. It is some really good merches.
Thank you. Make sure you get your Stick City merch.
By the way, it's it's a Holidays nice stocking stuffer. Yeah,
or not even a stocking stuffer, just dope dope dope
gart to wear.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Or you could do what Rob Parker does and just
put it on a rack out in the bank room
and help the all the editors will fork out sixty
five dollars for an oddcome over.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Think of a better person to stuff you're stocking than
Stick City.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, I mean, I mean Stick it in and stick
the sticks in, you.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Know, yeah, if you want to, if you want to
stuff that stocking, there's there's no other place to.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Get stuff that's stocking with some sticks. Yeah know what
I mean, that's right. That is a great point. I'm
sure it's a big stick that you're sticking into that
stock stocking the stuff too. You know, great point there
you go, great, feel good about that sown? Yeah yeah, yeah,
it was teetering. It was teetering.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Okay, all right, all right, Sam, just want to be
clear here, I had nothing to do with that. I'm
just trying to play nice because I don't want to. Uh,
we're not trying to piss off Iowa Sam here, all.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Right, I mean you do know that that's you do
know that that's dumpable, right, the p O work. You know,
I can't say that, Okay, okay, okay, good.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
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my game last night, and hey, you.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Know what, what it happens, It happened, that was the
game ever it happened.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Was and you know, Cairo Santos, you know, I mean, listen,
I texted somebody last night. Scott Shapiro is a diehard
Minnesota Vikings fan. He's our lord and savior, and I
told him, you know, fuad Ravez and Kevin Butler would
be proud because that was a Kickers fest last night
and a turnover fest and it looked like old school
(04:24):
nineteen nineties NFC Central Football. But it does bring up
the conversation that we were having over the past couple
of weeks. When you're looking at comeback player of the year,
Josh Dobbs has got to be in the conversation for
comeback player of the year, seeing what he's done bouncing
around the league, just looking at everything that he's accomplished
(04:44):
thus far from all these different difficult situations he's been
in and Minnesota, even though it didn't look good last
night and he had the turnovers without Justin Jefferson. They
do have the final wild card spot in the NFC.
And I noticed something that there's all saw another name
that has popped up in the Comeback Player of the
Year award list, and I want to see if you
guys know who that is. If you had to guess
(05:06):
who might be a surprise candidate or somebody you didn't
think you'd see in the Comeback Player of the Year
award race, if you had to guess.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
If I had to guess, I don't know. I'm trying
to think of the criteria that'd be involved. You could
include Russell Wilson, could.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
You he's in there, he's in the discussion. But he
played yeah, twenty to one, well, but he played poorly,
So maybe that's what he's coming back from.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Well is that what the definition is?
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Then?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, I don't know what the definition is.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Well, it's kind of a I thought it was coming
off of injury.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Yeah, I mean, look, Damar Hamlin is obviously the favorite.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
He's still the favorite.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
He's still the favorite. He said if he played one play,
he's getting it. We did say that at the beginning
of the year.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
I mean, look, no disrespect, I just Dobbs's season has
been unbelievable. Despite even last night's game, they saw a chance.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
To win it in the end. And but don't just
think that's the.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
First three plus interception game he's had in the NFL
or college.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And I get that, but let's be clear that man
basically was on his way up out of here on
the field in front of the entire viewing audience. If
he played one play, if he came back and played
one play. We said this at the beginning of the year. Yeah,
well you said it, Jonas. I don't want to take
credit for what you said. I don't care if he played,
(06:34):
If he played one down of football, I wouldn't be
surprised if that's the only reason why they brought him
back was just to get him on the field for
one play, because I don't think he's played. He hasn't
played since, right, He hasn't been active. He played what.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Was the game that they lost in primetime the Bills
seems like they should a lot of those, but there
was a game they lost, oh Man, where he was
brought out defensively in for a couple of series later.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Only I think the only reason why he is on
that roster is for the elements of comeback player of
the year and feel good stories surrounding the franchise.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Okay, here's the interesting name that has all of a
sudden popped up on the list.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Aaron Rodgers. If he comes back and plays one down,
that's my football. That's the guy. I mean. I'm sorry, Damar.
I know you was about dead. He was ready to
be up out of here. But I'm sorry, Damar. Aaron
Rodgers is going trump one play if he if he
(07:40):
trots his ass out on that field for one play
and comes off, he's getting it. He's He's in the
running right now.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
So Rodgers is at ten to one this according to
DraftKings Tomorrow, Hamlin's the favorite at a minus one seventy five.
And then you've got two A tugabay loat at two
point fifty.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
So he in two a plus two last year he did,
but he got hurt. He got hurt, but he did
He's still played. And then you've got man, what a
comeback after a comeback player meant you had to come
back from something. I really like that took you away
an injury like.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
He were like with the demor Hamlin thing. It's like
he's back, but it's like he's not playing as much
as some of the other guys who are up for it.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Right, I mean, he's not playing at all.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Really, Lee, how many snaps does DeMar Hamlin have this year?
I'm gonna say under ten, because I know he played
a handful of snaps in a in a game due
to injury. And then for the most part, he's been
he's healthy.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Been in two games because he's got to tackle in
two games this season.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
Two games, and he's been a healthy scratch majority of
I think I'm.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Saying he's played in three games. Excuse me.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
If Rogers comes back in the same season he tore
his achilles over, that's it.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
That's it. That's it. Story's written.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
And and I do think he is going to come back.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I believe that he will.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
And I don't care that they're going to be out
of the playoffs and they're bad. I think he's got
everything to prove. And this was a situation where like
you had, like I don't know if you saw Greg Doyle,
who covers he's been covering sports for a long time
in Indianapolis, but he sent out a tweet a few
days ago in which he said that he doesn't believe
(09:31):
that Rogers actually tore his achilles. That you know, Rogers
has lied before about things so on and so forth,
and and that right there.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Listen, by the.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Way, that's why people are going to AI. That's journalistic.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
There you go, because that's not going to do that.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
They're not going to But I look at it, and
I go, this is exactly why Rogers would come back,
just to be like, look for anybody that's still got
bad blood and still uptight about you know, the immunized
craft that went on a couple of years ago. All Right,
I got something for you, same season. I tear my achilles.
I'm gonna do what nobody else has done. If he
comes back and plays Rogers is gonna win.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Come back. I asked you a question about Aaron Rodgers.
It's totally off top it, but if Aaron Rodgers was
a Ritz Cracker eater, would he use cheese or would
he use peanut butter and jelly? Do you think he's
a peanut butter and jelly type of guy? I'm just curious. Well, like,
(10:37):
for instance, if Aaron Rodgers were to eat Oreo cookies.
Do you think he just eats on them? Or does
he take the pop pop one of them off and
and you know, hit the icing up before he eats it,
or doesn't even eat the outsides at all. Weird, I know,
But but.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I did hear that.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
I did hear that Lee ignores the middle on an
oreo some reason.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Just what what?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
That's what I heard.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Okay, you're gonna shoot a messenger, That's what I heard.
And you're able to tell a lot from Lee by
the fact that he skips the middle and he just
wants the outside. That's what I was just trying to
understand about about Aaron Rodgers. And by the way, on.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
The rich cracker question, who puts jelly on a rich cracker?
I've only heard just peanut butter or cheese. I've never
heard jelly is an option on a ritch crack.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Peanut butter and jelly. Yeah, just you went and put
peanut butter and jelly on a cracker. Just peanut butter.
Oh well, I've heard of peanut butter and jelly being
on a cracker. Well I've offended. I'm sorry, I mean
it that way.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
So that being said, Okay, Roder, thank you, Sam, have
you ever done it jelly with the peanut butter and
ritz cracker peanut butter and jelly on a cracker?
Speaker 6 (12:08):
I have not. It would be fine. It seems like
a lot of work. Wow, that's the point. There's not
a lot of surface area that's at the surface area.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I mean, it just feels like it would fall off.
But what if you got goobers? It sounds good goobers?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Is that like the mix?
Speaker 4 (12:23):
The mix they still make that laziest invention on planet Earth? Yeah,
come on like one at a time.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
All right, Well, anyways, I just wanted to know if,
like how you think Aaron Rodgers mind works, because honestly,
he spread to ayahuasca on his with ritz Cracker, So
you think he would go with like cheese, like cheese
and wig with aahuasca cheese? Way good? Yeah, but easy
cheese in the can. Because I want to know how
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a guy that can come back from that type of
an injury in the same season and the amount of
time that like, what how does his mind? Is he
using the rite or to left side? Is he using
the frontal lobe or you know, the core tex? What
is that the core text of Like what parts of
they say you only use ten percent of your brain.
(13:11):
Aaron Rodgers may use a larger percentage of his brain
and that's why he's able to come back from that injury.
So I was just wondering what we might think his
habits of how he eats crackers would be just helped
me out.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Don't know, but I mean he should be returning to
practice soon, you think so like next week. That's the
conversation that's happening.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
That's wild as hell, man, Oh that's wild broh, Like
it's so like what is it called? Like uncomprehensible incomprehensible,
Like it's just like I know what that I know
what that s felt like for me when I tore
my Achilles tendon. And I've dealt with pain very well
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in my life, that was the worst pain I have
ever endured in my life. I've been in a moment
motor cycle accident, I have, I have dealt with some
serious issues pain wise, and that achilles tendon post surgery
pain had me like, you know how you be in
so much pain off of something or something just it
(14:15):
hits you and it hurts you so bad that you
have to pause and in the moment of what you're feeling,
and then tears start moving on you and you don't
even have control over it. Like I was in tears
and had so many pause moments like like like like
shake your fingers type pain. That pain is so intense.
(14:41):
That's just that just blows me away. That just blows
me away, that that he would actually be able to
get through that type of pain that quickly. By the way,
work out the scar tissue, because when they're breaking that
scar tissue down in your achilles hell in your leg,
that is some of the wildest pain as well. It's
just a lot of pain involved with with that achilles tended.
(15:04):
You got to break up the scar tissue, you gotta
stretch it back out, you got to keep stretching it.
You got to strengthen, strengthen your your foot, you got
to strengthen your ankle, you got to strengthen your calf.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
So, yeah, is there a chance he's on the ballafer
Comeback player of the year purely based off media speculation?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I mean, if you.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Think about it, yeah, probably Why would you Why would
you risk coming back to be able to say you
did Yeah, yeah, that's it, because they're not going to
have any playoff hopes.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
That, Yeah, this is purely personal. I would assume Glazier.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I think Glazier had the report on Fox a couple
of weeks ago that Rogers even his idea is even
if he's not able to move at one hundred percent,
which is you know, obviously he probably wouldn't be it
to happen less than three months ago, that he still
wants to come back because he wants to prove that
he can do this and do it in the same.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
It's a personal This is a personal thing, and he'll
be remember and he'll be remembered forever for being the
guy who came back in the same season that that
ruptured his Achilles tendant and came back the same exact
year from rupturing his achilles tendon, and that will be
one of the one of the crowning moments of his career,
(16:23):
is that he was able to do something that no
one else has ever ever done.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, and I don't doubt that.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I guess I just kind of look at and say,
you know, some sports book will be, sports books will
be they'll put it out there if people.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Are willing to put their money on him. Yeah, even
if there's no chance.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
To say, can you imagine if he did it? Though,
like the people will take that bet. The people will
take that bet. Jeez.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
I would be at this point more surprised if he
doesn't come back and play than if he does.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I would be looking at his closest friends and seeing
if they're placing bets on his return. That's what I
would want to do. Like if you could get a
hold of Age Day and ask him if he's placing
any bets on a right coming back to be the
comeback player of the Year and he said, yes, I'm
I'm I'm gonna put I'm gonna put a substantial amount
of money down. Listen.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
As a broadcast professional, he wouldn't very true.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
But if he's doing Q and confidence that I'm not
betting it. But I'm just saying, if I were a
betting man, I bet it. I'm betting you act like
I almost.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Think it's I almost think it's a little bit like
negligent for Jonas to throw it out there without the
caveat or disclaimer, because you're almost giving bad betting advice,
like you're making people aware of it. Who made go
lay out that bet when really it could be a loser,
and I would be one hundred percent blaming Jonas Knox
in this case.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I just I think it's like, you know, we're talking
about you know, people broadcasters gambling like you pretty like
LeVar actually, like AJ's ever come on this network before
and talked about betting on the comeback at the Kentucky
Derby or.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Even we've first heard about that bet though, haven't you.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
No, Oh, it's actually tell me it's actually it's actually
a great bet. So at the Derby when everyone's betting
on obviously the races, a j and Aaron and like
a few of the other packers guys, they have a
whole crew that goes every year, they bet on what's
called the comeback bet. So they bet on the first
horse to come back once they're finished, to be the
(18:16):
first one that like end like off the track. So
they call it the comeback bet. It's pretty amazing because
everyone starts cheering, all right, they all they all start
cheering when the race is over, and what the heck
is happening the races?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
The bet is not over. Yeah, no, it's not over.
Who Yeah, it's just you.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Know, yeah, that's how it works. So look, I'm just saying, uh,
if comeback Player of the Year, if that's something you
want to gamble on, there's not wonder they had leather
on weather, right, so definitely hope. So it is Two
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We are going to a close up shop here with
another edition of you and to you out. That'll be
yours here from the tire rack dot Com studios. Apparently
money is not much of an issue for Texas A
and M. They already owe what what is Jimbo Fisher getting?
(21:42):
What's he getting like seventy seven million something like?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, seventy seven million, not all at once though it
gets paid out over a period of years.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Well, Mike Elko, who is the dukehead coach, he is
now the next head coach at Texas A and M.
He will take over in college. They pay well, here's
the tractual numbers that we're looking at here. Ultimately this
according to ESPN, it's a six year contract. Get a
base salary of seven million dollars per year, but with
several college football play two yeah, several college football playoff incentives.
(22:14):
Here he gets one million dollars for a college football
playoff appearance, three one point five for advancing to the
college football playoff quarterfinals four point five or winning the
SEC Too many.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
That's per year, by the way, if he had sending
those incentives in each year.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Wow, two million dollars for a college football playoff semi
final appearance, two point five for a college football playoff
game title game appearance, three point five million for a
national title. And the contract includes eleven million dollars salary
pool for assistance and support staff. And uh, yeah, he's
(22:51):
getting paid and he's off leaving Durham and in College
station to take over there for the Aggies.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Which I'll be honest with you, it's it's not.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I mean, I like the way the attracted structure for
Texas and m you know, it's not You're not paying
him close to the top. He's very well paid, don't
get me wrong, but this is a university. It's paying
off a guy who's making seventy seven million not to coach.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
So from that standard, it's like, well, that's not that much, right, I.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Mean, LaVar, you just crunch the numbers where we say
some of the forties for a seven year deal.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yes, I mean Jimbo's getting more.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Yes, So you know, I think it's a smart structure
because they're essentially rewarding him for success, which is ultimately
what you want to do. So he's rewarded. And I'll
say this if they win a national championship. Okay, three
point five million is out what the bonus is?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah? Now, of course, like.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
If he makes all of those incentives along the way,
Like what would that add up to?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
That's another what seven million on top of that?
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Like you said, that's if it were yearly, you're you're
talking about, yeah, like seven million, seven point five So
so it.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Takes you up to about fourteen points. So you'd be
the highest paid in that case based on what you've earned.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
A six year deal, six or seven six six year deal. Yeah,
so that he's in Texas, so that helps no.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
State ofum tax, Yeah, it helps.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
But the general point is this is you're rewarding him
for this success of their team. You're not just giving
him a big, you know, bunch big sum of money
and saying here you go, like we trust that you'll
you know, figure it out and win a national championship.
And so that the point is it's a smart structured
contract compared to what they just dealt with with Jimbo Fisher.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
And I'd say this, even if you pay him.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
An national seven million and they win a national championship,
do you not think the university is going to make more.
I mean seven million for a national championship to your
head coach through all those incentives on top of that.
You know, so what fourteen million whatever it is total
one one year, that's chump change compared to what the
university is actually gonna make if Texas and m was
(24:52):
to win a national championship. So I think this is
a very well structured contract that could work for both parties.
If Mike Elko is successful, he'll get compensated like one
of the top coaches in college football or the top coach.
And you know, if he's not, he won't And that
actually says the downside risk for Texa San em in
this case, given again the monumental largest in the history
(25:15):
of college football buyout that we saw for Jimbo Fisher.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
I'm just a little confused because I like I was
hearing that Ryan Day was interested in the job or
they were interested in him. So I'm a little confused
as to it feels like there was a lot of
reports and rumors out there that just kind of died
over the way it was legitimate, though, were they Yeah,
didn't Urban Was urban Meyer laughing at the report or
something like that?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
When well, it was Bruce Feldon's report.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
So if you're going to take a shot at the report,
you'd be taking a shot at Bruce, which I could
promise you this. They're legitimate in the sense of at
least how tex san unfelt. Then maybe they could get
an interview from that, which was what the report was.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Do you do you think Ryan Day would have seriously
entertained the job?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I would say to Lvar's point, generally, you should always
entertain every opportunity. Yes, Like I talk about this all
the time from a front office perspective. If I'm John
Lynch and he called the Patriots a number of years
in a row and asked, Hey, is Tom Brady available?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Nope?
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Okay, cool, you make them say no. If you're Texas
A and M and you're saying, we want to cast
the widest that we can, we call John Gruden. Maybe
we called right, like you want to call every possible
coach you think is a good coach and going to
help you win, regardless of what other circumstances that the
media are, people on the outside talk about.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
You call them and you ask and make them say no.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
If you think they're an upgrader, you think they can
help you win, you make them say no before you
move on.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
So look, Ryan Day is a great coach.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
I'm sure Texas A and M was hoping if they lost
maybe there'd be an opportunity for them to get him
as a head coach or at least talk to him
about becoming their head coach.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
It's kind of wild that Ryan Days got only one
other loss outside of the Michigan gain.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
They about getting rid of him.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, that's the difference. He's got what six losses or
something like that. It's like, that's the difference is if
Ohio State doesn't want them, and all the Buckeye Nation
bands are like, hey, you know we can't be Michigan.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
We want to move on. Okay, well someone else will
gladly take Ryan Dasoner.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
One loss, your one loss, You're one went away from perfection,
and they talking about firing you. I told her. I
was on social media. I told them people. I said,
if y'all were held to the same standard that y'all
beholding your coach to for for one one games and
lost games in your own personal life and in your job,
you would be fired. You'd be unemployed, right if you
(27:39):
had to live up to that standard that you're sitting
there judging that man off of you would have no job.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I would say this though, growing up in Columbus, Ohio
and living through the John Cooper era, being a recruit
for Jim Tressel, and understanding there's respect there, I also
think there's a fair amount of hatred, like and I
think that's it's okay to it.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Admit that.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I've heard people try to downplay that rivalry. It's like, no,
man like Michigan. They don't like each other.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
I get that part.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Like there's there's cattiness too to just people who live
in in both states. So all I'm saying is it's
like it's because someone asked the question if Ohio State
went six and six next year but be Michigan, would
that be a good year. Well, in some people's mind, yes,
like like like that's how crazy it is. And some
people's mind, yes, if they won that one game, regardless
(28:33):
of how the rest of the season went, it would
be a good season. It's crazy to think that way,
but that's that's how that rivalry is. It is the
greatest rivalry in college football. I would say it argues
any rivalry in any sport, in any sport.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I don't have a problem with with all of that.
I just have a problem with your your I told
people this when when the whole Franklin stuff hit, because
he has two losses over you know, four losses over
the last two years, and it's to the same two teams,
and I'm like, are you closer to elite or are
you closer to mediocrity? And to me? And we talked
(29:14):
about this earlier in the show when we talked about
right getting fired and how you run things. This is
a people ran, people led type of business in the
industry and category. If you're closer to elite, I'd rather
try to figure out how to get to elite versus
take the risk of I'm going to bring somebody else
(29:34):
new end and although they may be an elite coach,
you're still taking the risk in a tremendous chance that
you may lose where it is that you're at.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
I mean, remember we made the point a couple months ago.
Nebraska fans wanted bo Polini.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Out crazy and they haven't been that good since. He's
been the best they've had in a lot haven't been
that good since. So you're right there, at it. Fans
be you know, and I get it. Like I said,
I listen if if that's your rivalry, I get it.
You know, the rivalry was pretty strong still. When I
went to Washington, I hadn't witnessed a rivalry outside of
(30:09):
high school North allegating North Hills. That's a hate rivalry.
But at the highest level it was. Washington and Dallas
were a tremendously heated rivalry. It used to be and
it was still at that feverish pitch that you could
lose every game, but as long as you win the
games against Dallas, it's like it's a win of a season,
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which is crazy to think, but that's how our fans.
A lot of fans thought. I get it, but I don't.
I just don't. I don't understand why you would be
okay with just that win. Like work to be great,
it's not just about winning the rivalry games. I know
that's what makes it fun for fans, but it's still
(30:51):
talking about winning it as a whole. What does that
look like as a whole, not just one singular part,
one singular piece. You're one game away from being perfect
one game and you rather fire him because he didn't
win that one game. That's just I don't it just
doesn't compute well for me.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
That's like growing up, it was always Hilliard, Davidson and
Dublin Goffman.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
For my god, why do you do this? What are
you talking about?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I mean, it's just you. You try so hard to
act like you're from there, James. I will say this
about uh, about Matt Rule and Nebraska, like they went
five and seven this year, which at one point they
were five to three.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
They lost the last four all one scoring games though, and.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
They I think they sneakily could get in a Bowl
game if like some other people's other other squads don't
want to go that are six win teams, they can
qualify because they're APR. But I'm not betting against Nebraska
like slowly building back with Matt Ruhle, like like we've
seen this story before where year one not quite as good,
then like your two, they get better than year three.
They're like they're competing, and I know they're adding a
(31:53):
bunch of teams for the PAC twelve in Oregon and
Washington and obviously USC and UCLA. But it's gonna be
that's gonna an interesting program to watch to see what
Matt Rule can do with them.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
I wonder if Matt Rule called Frank Reich, Yes name
was like, hey, man, come out and.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Have a beer.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Let's share some stories, you know, let's let's share some
fun stories working with David Tepper with all the millions
he paid us to go ahead and be gone.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
The crazy thing is too if you think about the
Matt Rule era in Carolina, they were a far more
competitive football team than what the Panthers were this year.
I mean like they were a seven win team was
the last two years? Yeah, I mean their defense was
playing much better, they were running the football better.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I mean that's the problem is.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
I know there was a bunch of turnover on the roster,
but not to the point where they felt they lacked
that much competitiveness.
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Speaker 5 (34:23):
This two pros and a cup of show. What you
to know? If they're in ye please or if they're out?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
All right? Lead to lot. What do we got guys?
Speaker 10 (34:34):
We're talking hires and uh Sam actually brought this to me.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Do you guys?
Speaker 10 (34:38):
Are you guys enter out on the whole Texas A
and M dance? What Mike Elko was doing with press conference,
with the uh everyone their.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Presence, I was shook up. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna
say I'm in because they were all in unison. They
were doing it together. So from the outside, maybe I judge,
but from the inside they looked like they were united.
So I'm in.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
I mean, what is the what's the Mike Elco dance?
Speaker 3 (35:03):
You know how they were all rocking. That was the
one where they're saying back and forth they're doing the stand.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
It's the twelfth Man thing.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
It's a little strange.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
There's some strange stuff out there for tradition. It felt
like it was was that.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Geez, Sam, I don't know. I don't know they do.
They have some weird traditions at Texas and metals Hunting Iowa.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
That's a part of the game that's not weird. Punting
is hunting, is winning.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Hey, by the way, what was the what was the
shirt you set me, Sam, where somebody took an a
C D C logo and they said, Iowa football, you've
been understrusted.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
Rightly, that was Ray Gun. Shout out to Reygun, all right.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Shout out regunt.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Enter out on Tory Taylor getting the Heisman.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Vote out there, you go, I'll pay well, I'll a
voter and I'm not putting up on.
Speaker 6 (35:57):
My pallet sear one to make find a punting. But
then you see Toy Taylor' getting a Heisman.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
Focus. You just heard what you said, right.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Damn Well, that's just Brady, you know, Oh wow, there's
other people who are you.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Know, are enthusiasts, enthusiasts of the punt.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
I'm not saying you shouldn't win.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
The Ray guy just absolutely win the Ray guy. Yeah, no,
I agree with you, Brady, that's fan.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
I appreciate your career. Sam, You're not completely delusional.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
No, a lot you O care if there Jonason took
your toes, buddy, Yeah, a lot toes.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
Yeah, he's doing the Mike Elcho dancing there a wear
no weirds you guys enter out on the Dolphins bringing
in Jason Pierre Paul Hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
I mean it's unfortunate though, because Jalen Phillips got hurt
and that's why they're obviously making this move.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
But yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
And Met Life Turf gets him again. Huh, there's something
going on there.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Well, the Met Life Turf didn't get j p p
while he was there. Oh geez, it was it was
the firecrackers.
Speaker 8 (36:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
You know what though, is it too soon for that?
Speaker 4 (37:02):
He's had a damn good careers. He have one hundred
sacks in his career.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Still get he still gets sacks right now, still two
day to day.
Speaker 10 (37:11):
I wonder if we'll see him on The Hard Knocks
in season with the Miami Dolphins, which is against the
second episode tout.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Yeah, and for Lee, and because I think Mike McDaniel's awesome.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
So I'm in on Mike McDaniel, Yeah, with an S
no US knows McDaniel.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I got Josh Josh McDaniels, and then Mike mcdande all
right and no relation.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Okay, Yeah, I'm good. I'm in. What else we got
keeping it with the Dolphins? Is Jarvis Landris's Jarvis Landry's birthday? Hey,
happy birthday, Jarvis.
Speaker 10 (37:47):
Chase Elliott as well John Stewart Cheese Elliott Chase Elliott
Nascar driver.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
I'll say, who's cheese?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Cheeze?
Speaker 3 (37:56):
That's what we called you back in the day. Geez,
what movie? I know what movie? You enter out?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Oh? Old School? Yeah, cute, cheez gee, you got out.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
I'm in. I'm old school.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
We're going strae Chase doesn't know that movie.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
You're My Boy, Blue, You're my boy.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
It's old school, right, Yeah, that's the movie.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Guys's national French toast ing all in. I'm all in.
Waffles are French toast. I'm all in on Auntie.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Kodiac pancakes if you guys have those are the protein ones.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
They are awesome protein pancakes. I'm gonna stay away. You
got Kodiac if you get one of the skill it
for you French toast joints. Whoo, my daughter can do
them real well.
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