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what the issue was with the intros not being done yet,
and one of the I guess we were speculating. But
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one of the thoughts there was theory would be the
right term. Thank you for that. One of the theories was
that maybe it's still in your outbox, the email, and
you didn't hit send.
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I've confirmed with Vito that he has received all the
requests and he got those. He got those right away,
he got those day of well, other than you know,
somebody was a little bit behind us yearly. It's been
a week that ain't I'm not saying anything.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
It was Yeah, you remember when they used to do that.
You've got mail, You've got mailed so long ago?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Yeah, a long time ago.
Speaker 6 (01:59):
Joan has submitted his home Damn.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
He'pped me, var Man, Wait till you guys see the
banger I got. I'm gonna get you even more fired
up than the ones I've already given you. Ye probably not, though.
So we open up the show talking about the dysfunction
in New York with the Jets in their quarterback situation,
and we start our three of the program talking about
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a former New York Jet and that being Jamal Adams
of the Seattle Seahawks, three time pro bowler and apparently
somebody who likes to get after it a little bit
on social media and on Twitter. So this is the
way this story went. Connor Hughes of s n Y.
He's an NFL reporter. He commented on a video of
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Jamal Adams getting beat on a play while with Seattle,
and he wrote, yikes. So Jamal Adams found a picture
of Connor Hughes's wife and posted that on social media
and wrote yikes.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Oh no.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Well, of course that got a ton of blowback. One
of the uh one of a guy who works with
Connor Hughes in New York, Brian Costello. He wrote, I've
covered a lot of players through the years, never met
anybody who's more of a phony than Jamal Adams. I
always thought he was a bad guy. Today he proved
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he is even worse than I thought. Jamal Adams wrote back,
ah here comes mister potato head, mister Hughes's right hand man.
Truth be told, I do not care. I do not
like you, never liked you. You're terrible at your job.
You do not know me outside of the game of football.
So keep that bleat pushing hashtag pres well. Pete Carroll
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was asked about the interactions between Jamal Adams and members
of the media, and this is what he had to say.
Speaker 7 (03:56):
Yeah, we've already addressed it with him, and you know,
I don't know if it was a great decision at
the time.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
I'm not sure about.
Speaker 7 (04:03):
The details of it, but I know that he realized that,
you know, he needed to take it down what he
put up, and so we don't want to do we
don't want to be part of that.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah. Unfortunately, Jamal Adams decided to double down yesterday and
talking to reporters when he said, quote, when others go low,
I go lower. You can sit there and have regret,
but I don't live that way in my life. It's
always the athlete that cross the line when he responds.
But at the end of the day, disrespect his disrespect
however you want to take it. So I responded, I
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knew when I did hit that tweet, I wasn't in
it to win it. At the end of the day,
it was to get him to understand quote, leave me
the hell alone, so that from Jamal Adams and his
cute little back and forth with members of the media.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
So he didn't take down mister potato hit though.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
That's still there man.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
This is it seems like it's a fairly simple situation,
but it's not because you can really see all the
all perspectives of this. In this case, Jamal Adams looks
like the bad guy because of his response, and obviously
that was unnecessary and it brought someone into the conversation
that doesn't it's not necessary, right that being said, like
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you to look what starts all of it, Like Connor Hughes, Right,
is it his job to post stuff on Twitter to
kind of clown a player?
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Like?
Speaker 8 (05:21):
Is that ultimately his job? Does he get.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Paid more for creating great content on his Twitter account.
Speaker 8 (05:27):
Or any other social media page for that matter.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
No, he chose to make that decision in a realm
that really doesn't have anything to do with what he's ultimately,
who he's contracted by, what he's paid for.
Speaker 8 (05:41):
Now people can take issue with that.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
They could say, well, you know, social media following helps
create more clicks, more viewers, more attention, blah blah blah,
amplify stuff, right, it still was unnecessary. So you know,
I don't know the backstory between these two. If there's
personal vendetta.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Adams that they've had a previous history.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Sure, but I'm saying who knows the extent right, Like,
and we're only hearing from his side of it. I'm
just saying, like nowadays, in social media, like people feel
liberated to kind of say and do what they want
and then not face the consequences of that. And this
goes for both sides of this, Like for the reporter
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to do something like that that obviously he was motivated
to because of maybe their past relationship or past interactions,
but it wasn't necessary he chose to do that.
Speaker 8 (06:34):
So like you're gonna say something to someone like and
this is where.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Like the world of and being an athlete in the
stadium where everyone's talking trash to you and saying stuff,
We're like, guess what the fence is down? Now you're
on a level playing field with them where they can
punch back, they can talk back, and you're not gonna
like what happens because like when people talk trash back
and forth, like one of the things I'd say is
like that locker room is a crazy place, bro and
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the stuff people say to one another is tough. And
that's why people usually say, what's what happens in the
locker room stays in the locker room, because there are
so many like vicious things that are said and that
maybe happen that you don't.
Speaker 8 (07:10):
It wouldn't make sense to the outside world.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
And the problem is is you're now kind of in
an essence, poking the bear or trying to poke a
player who's in a locker room, who that's what they know,
that's the world they live in, like it's survival of
the fittest. And so you're not gonna like how a
guy comes back.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
And look, not.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Every professional athlete it's gonna handle themselves the same way.
Some are gonna be much more professional about it. Some
ignore it, they'll act above it. But in this case,
like you kind of open yourself up to that. And
so I'm not trying to say like I'm on Jamal
Adam's side in this case, I'm just saying, like social
media is and it's awful for our society. I don't know,
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I know we try to make a big deal about
it for people making money and digital marketing and all
this stuff, it is probably done more harm to people
reputations and careers with people being fired and stuff that
has been posted and the reasons why corporations have had
to you know.
Speaker 8 (08:08):
Reprimand people that actually helped people. That's just my view
on it.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Like I really don't view it, and I'm on it
in part because I've always been warned that you don't
want people to be out there like speaking on your
behalf now with AI and everything else coming out, who
knows what this world looks like the next five to
ten years. But I just think like, this is it's
an easy out for people to go, Oh, Jamal Adams
is a bad guy for what he said. Why the
reporter provoking in the first place? Then, like why did
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he feel was necessary to do that? In both cases,
Like both guys are wrong, and I think you could
see it that way and just say, yeah, maybe this
is something that like we should just try to have
a team policy on if you're the Seahawks and say like,
unless it's for like a business thing or something, or
you feel provoked I want to post about your family
or something.
Speaker 8 (08:53):
Like, just stay off social media because it's never going
to benefit you in season. It's just not.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
And on the flip ste if you're part of the
media and all that, it's like, well, yeah, be careful
like who you try to like say stuff about come
after because you're not gonna like this isn't a corporate
working environment. It's the NFL. It's a professional athlete. Like
it's different, Like most people can't handle some of the
stuff that's that's set in the locker room. I'll just
leave it at that. I've just found it to be
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pure entertainment, like which's and that's always been your stance
on social media. If you like it, you find entertaining
and you like to engage.
Speaker 9 (09:29):
In that, it's pure entertainment because in the end, those
people don't know what you're going through on a daily basis,
what your life is like, and we don't know what
they're going through and what their life is like. Same
difference here with with this reporter and Jamal, they don't
they don't know each other's lives and and so you're
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shooting an insult, and the insult is it's it's it's
empty calories. If you ask me so, I don't I
don't find myself getting too deep into it, like I
don't like I'll get like he took a personal shot
like and and it's what I found is there are
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no rules in social media like you would think, like
even in the locker room is malicious as guys can
be with comebacks and with jooning and and with with
trash talk. Generally speaking, there are unwritten rules like leave
wives and spouses out of the equations, leave leave parents
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out of the equation. Once you go there, then now
it's not it's not for fun, we're not having s
and giggles, it's this is real. And then now that
means someone in the locker room needs needs to intervene
in what's going on, what's taking place in the locker
room on social media that doesn't exist. So there when
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there are no rules to to how you engage, then
it's interesting because when when someone of note plays by
no rules, people get offended. They can't handle it, like
how could Jamal Adams do that? Well, a million other
people are doing the same exact thing.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
You should that you right.
Speaker 9 (11:20):
So now you want to start like like, for instance,
somebody came out me the other week and said LaVar
only defends James Franklin because he wants his son to
go to Penn State.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
That was me, by the way, I apologize, and I.
Speaker 9 (11:31):
Said, and I say to him, I said, I don't
need to do any selling or ass kissing over my son.
He he does fine all by him. And by the way,
he would knock your ass out.
Speaker 6 (11:44):
Right.
Speaker 9 (11:45):
Now, here's what's funny. I'm talking football when I said
he'd knock your ass out. I'm talking football. So that
the person writes back, Oh, that must be Cte. You're
so violent just because I said something about about you,
You're saying, now your son is going to punch me
out and beat me up, like.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
Da dat like. And I left it at that like
and it was it was like to.
Speaker 9 (12:12):
Me, it was just a like entertainment, like I'm I'm
I'm saying what I'm saying, you're your commenting on the post.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
It is what it is. So for me, I.
Speaker 9 (12:24):
Look at it like if I'm Pete Carroll, I'm like,
that's a grown ass man. What he does in his
spare time is what he does in his spare time.
If anything that he does impacts what we do here
in our facility, then that's when I'll have a conversation
with him. Because social media is if you're looking at
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social media, you can you can go one or two
comments down and there's somebody being a jerk, like that's
the bottom line. It's almost like the criteria is to
go on to this show or go on to to
to the social media is fair and let people know
how miserable you are about your life, because really that's
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all it is. When you when you put your negativity
on social media, all you're doing is exposing that you're
unhappy with yourself. So for anybody to allow that to
become more than what it is, then you know that's
on you. That's your own personal choice. That's how to me,
that's how I look at it. Because social media is
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not going anywhere. You're not going to get players to
not use it because they are going to use it. People,
other people, media, other people, their sources or whatever, they're
going to use social media. Everybody's going to use social media.
So if you decide to put your own credibility out
there on the line and you want to impact.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
It that way, that's your choice. That's your choice.
Speaker 9 (13:50):
And if that hurts you in the job place, that's
your choice, you know, because some of these people. The
one thing that's different when a pro athlete does it
or when a media person does it, people know who
you are and they do sit there Jonas and say
you should be better than that, and in reality they should,
they should, And that's a choice that you're making. But
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there is no real to me, There is no real
There is unless you're doing something that breaks the law,
or you're saying like I want to kill you, or
you should kill yourself, or like whatever.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Data if it doesn't.
Speaker 9 (14:26):
Go that far on social media, I could care less, man, honestly,
like you could go, you could go, people go racist
on it, like you know, there's people that have have
had racial, racially driven undertones and how they address me
on on social media.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
I don't care. I really don't.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I had a guy send me a message when I
was doing weekend overnights and I don't know what I
said that must have pissed him off, but he went
in on because the picture of my Twitter profile is
me and my mom and you guys know how I
feel about her, and he went off and just called
her every name of the book, and I mean it
was it was bad, and I just wrote it. I
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wrote him back. I was like, you're all right, and
he never I didn't hear from him. And then the
next day I get a message from him and he
was like, I'm so sorry I was drinking this and
that son. And my old thing was like, hey man,
I don't take any of this stuff personal. It's fine,
but if I were you, I would delete that immediately
because you wouldn't want an employer or somebody seeing a
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drunken moment in Twitter and to go ahead and evaluate
you as a person as a whole on that one moment.
And he deleted it, and I never heard from the
guy again. But there is this thing where once you
have that screenshot or that snapshot of somebody like, we
don't know Jamal. I don't know Jamal Adams. He could
be a good a good dude. I have no idea.
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But now the reputation is, oh, well, he's going to
pull up a picture of your wife and put that
on social media. If you if you snap at him
about his play, like it just going to get it's not.
Speaker 9 (16:00):
Going to get to know him any better, whether he
pulls up a picture of your wife. Armadillo cal Tortoise
You're not going to get to know who Sam Adams
really is. So whatever it is that you draw, Jamal,
So whatever conclusion you draw, you can draw it. It doesn't
matter because it's not going to be accurate anyway. It
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just comes down to professional integrity. Do you want to
be a person of integrity or not? That's ultimately that's
what it comes down to for any of them.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
By the way, when you bring up Sam Adams, are you,
guys a cold snap or a winter Fest?
Speaker 6 (16:33):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (16:33):
A cold snap?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
And that's directly correlated with a some good memories from
the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah, I mean Octoberfest.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
I'm about to say I like Octoberfest. I do that.
Speaker 8 (16:44):
We need we need to get a round of cold
snaps with LeVar, So.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
LeVar get after it.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
That old Ted's Montana.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
God, I love that place.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
This is so good.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
We got to get the break, guys.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
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Speaker 11 (18:37):
I think I had my bluetooth under control this week?
Speaker 6 (18:39):
Guys.
Speaker 11 (18:39):
So finger straw, no promise is the finger straw?
Speaker 8 (18:44):
How'd the hockey tournament go?
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (18:46):
How'd he go? He was warmed up that time?
Speaker 11 (18:48):
He pretty good? We uh I did? We won our
first three games. The gold differential was like plus forty five.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
And then we lost in the final plus forty five.
Speaker 11 (19:00):
Lessons for the kids, it was yeah, I mean I
for one reason or another art the grouping we got
put in we won, I think it was sixteen to two,
and then like like fifteen to nothing, and yeah it was.
And so I think our kids might have gotten into
the final with a little too much confidence. And then
the year came out of the balloon. I you know,
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the final was actually the one game I wasn't at,
so you know, maybe maybe it was missing my presence there.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Now, what position does your son play?
Speaker 11 (19:30):
He's a wing?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Okay, does he throw it down at all? We dropped.
Speaker 11 (19:36):
He's pretty physical. He's pretty physical. Actually, like they they're
not checking yet at this level. At the nine year
olds don't check. I think it's the bantams. I'm still
learning all this stuff because I didn't play hockey, but
I think they don't start checking till they're twelve thirteen
years old. But I mean he played football in the fall,
so he's probably one of the more physical kids out there.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
I sat nice, nice, all right. Ab We got to
ask you this though, because of me, and it sounds like,
you know, at least he's on a good hockey team,
but it does appear like Aaron Rodgers is on a
bad football team. And it's a mess. There's been the
Tim Boyle to the Trevor Simeon back to Zach Wilson
demoted to third string, but now he's the best. It
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just it feels like Robert Salah. I don't know if
he's making it up as he goes along. But who's
calling the shots there? And could this be an indication
that maybe he's on a hot seat that a lot
of people didn't expect when the move was made to
bring in Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 11 (20:34):
I think as long as Aaron Rodgers is there, the
guys who are there are okay. I think you know
where things could get a little dice here, as if
Aaron Rodgers were to announce on New Year's Day for
some reason that said he's done playing football, which I
don't think is going to happen. I do think the
guys there are going to get another shot at this
and then another run at this and running it back
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with the same group of coaches a lot of the
same players next year. But yeah, I mean there's no
question this. There's a blood up. There's blood on a
lot of people's hands right now, and you know, I
think it goes back again. And this is a decision
that I thought was a sound one at the time
to keep Zach Wilson as the backup. You know, I
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think you know, the way, the way the way they
looked at it was if we can bring him back
and we can sit him for a couple of years
and he can have the chance to reset and watch
and learn beyond Aaron Rodgers. You know, we might get
a different quarterback two years from now and then have
the successor to Aaron Rodgers. The risk in that plan
is that, you know, like is what happened, which is
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Aaron Rodgers gets hurt almost right away and now Zach
Wilson actually has to play. And you know, I think
that that was you know, kind of the decision that
they made and using that second quarterback spot as like
almost a developmental position rather than a real spot on
the roster, which is what they would have done if
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they had brought back say Mike White or someone like
that that you know, Cooper Rush, somebody who could go
and play in a pinch for you and give you
average quarterback play. So yeah, I mean, I think if
there's anything you question it not not so much like
you know, what the hell were you doing as the
philosophy and making the decision that they made with a
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team that was so ready to win right now.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
So I mean, who's ultimately going to be the one
to blame if this season goes the way we think
it's going to go. You have to look at how
they handled Zach Wilson, which I mean, look, I differ
on you and that I never thought it made sense.
It still doesn't make sense. This season has only proved that,
and it's actually gotten worse.
Speaker 11 (22:41):
Say that though, because you're you're not an advocate for
sitting guys right like you think.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
No, that's it's actually the exact opposite.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
It has nothing to do with what I'm advocating for
what I believe in either way, I think every every
player's situation is different. If you have a quarterback like
Zach Wilson, in my opinion, he needed to probably sit
and watch and learn. I think the problem is with
the way they handled him last year and bringing Aaron
Rodgers in. It never made sense to sit there and
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say we're gonna sit him for two years, he's gonna
watch Rogers.
Speaker 8 (23:11):
How does that make sense now?
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Now he's to the point where he needs to go
somewhere else with a fresh start to go play and
be in a different environment. That's not a it's not
a matter of should he sit or should he not.
Speaker 11 (23:23):
It's a fit thing.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
It just it didn't make sense of the timing.
Speaker 11 (23:27):
Of all place. It shouldn't have been in the same
place sure.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
But regardless of that, if the season goes the way
it's going, I have a hard time believing, like someone's
not going to take the fall force, someone doesn't take
the blame for it.
Speaker 11 (23:44):
So like the one guy that you would point to
would be the same because the defense has been fine, right,
So Allbrick is, you know, I think you'd be crazy
to fire Jeff Faulbrick after the way the defense is
played for most of the year, right, And I think
Salah has done a decent job managing this. So then
you point the finger Nathaniel Hackett, But like that's Rogers guy.
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And that's like sort of the tricky thing about it,
you know what I mean. It's like, Okay, so like
if you're looking at this globally, right, the fall guy
would either be the GM Joe Douglas, who put the
defense together right and who did make that decision at
quarterback but it's put together a pretty talented roster, or
being Nathaniel Hackett. And if it's Sthaniel Hackett, that's Rogers guy.
You know, Like, so do you get rid of Rogers guy?
(24:27):
Like unbalanced? What you're saying, Brady makes all the sense
in the world is somebody probably should take the fall
for this, especially when those guys that group has been together.
You know, most of those guys have been together for
three years now. But the problem is, like if you
look at the different circumstances with the different people involved,
it's like you're not going to point the finger at
somebody in the defensive side of the ball. The guy
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on the offensive side of the ball is Rogers guy.
And then you know, you look at the front office
and it's like, well, the record is not very good,
but the roster is and so like that where I
think it gets a little difficult. And that's where I
think it's like you look at it like just for
each individual spot, and you say, man, they probably aren't
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going to run it back next year because all these
individual circumstances kind of point you in that direction.
Speaker 9 (25:16):
Abe, I want we were just talking about what will
happened with Jamal Adams and the reporter on social media.
I'm curious like, would you would you ever have you
ever commented on on anyone's any player's post or anything
like that, and have they responded back to have you
(25:38):
ever had a back and forth like what what's your
idea opinion on how media relations and player relations should
play out on.
Speaker 11 (25:47):
Social you know, LaVar actually had one over the summer,
and it was I had done some reporting at the
end of last year on this player on the Patriots,
Jack Jones, who, like if you remember, he was suspended
at the end of last year, and I had reported
that it was because he was late to and missed
some reab sessions. And on top of that, like when
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he was confronted about it, like he and Bill Belichick
had a back and forth, like after he was told
that they were going to sit him down, that he'd
talked back to Bill a little bit, and you know,
like that story was reprised and the gun thing happened
over the summer, and so I told the whole story.
I was like, all right, so here's all the different
stuff thiss happened with Jack Jones. And so he comes
(26:31):
at me on social media really mad about like the
stuff that I've reported, And of course I stood by
what I was reporting because it was the truth. But
I didn't feel like it would be good for anybody
if I handled that in public, So I didn't go
back and forth in public. And generally, I think, you know,
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one thing I've learned about social media is these things
are better handled, you know, in the background, and if
I have to take the hit as a reporter, well
that sort of part of what I signed up for,
you know, Like do I want to defend myself, Yes,
I want to defend myself. I want to defend my integrity,
my reporting, all the rest of it. But you know, generally,
I found that those things don't lead to great places
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and you're better off. You know, I think for the
good of everybody handling those situations offline and everybody has
different ways of handling it, But you know, I think
in general, like if a player or a coach or
someone wants to take things into the public forum, I'm
at least going to try to handle it privately out
of respect for that person before I let anything get
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any more public.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, senior
NFL reporter and lead content strategists at the MMQB. You
can get them on Twitter if you have any issues
with what you just had to say at Albert Breer
is where you can find him. AB who's your MVP
right now? Because we were talking Tyreek Hill earlier in
the week and it feels like if there was going
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to be a year that a non quarterback one, this
may be it.
Speaker 11 (28:01):
Yep. Yeah, And I think like both Tyreek and A. J.
Brown probably have cases, you know. I all right, So
I want you guys to answer this question. And this
is pretty simple. I had. I did a poll, an
MVP poll, an awards poll mid season. I think I
pulled something like forty or fifty executives with teams, and
one of them voted for Tyreek for MVP. And he
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said to me, He's like, here's my logic. He's like,
would you rather face the Dolphins without Tyreek or without Tua?
How would you guys answer.
Speaker 6 (28:33):
That without Tyree? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I'd say I'd say without Tua because do we know
that someone can get Tyreek the football?
Speaker 11 (28:43):
I mean, like, Brady, you.
Speaker 8 (28:46):
Could try to convince me Albert.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I'm just I'm giving you my opinion, like, you can
have a dynamic wide receiver, but if you don't have
a backup, they can get them to football.
Speaker 8 (28:54):
It it really doesn't matter.
Speaker 11 (28:57):
But Brady, like even that, it's a question without the
thing given, you.
Speaker 9 (29:00):
Know what I mean, Yeah, I'm more afraid of Tyree,
Like I actually think you could make a better case
for that for Christian McCaffrey or running back, because you
don't have to have a quarterback that's that effective for
the football.
Speaker 8 (29:15):
He just has to be to hand it off. So
I would actually make that argument.
Speaker 11 (29:20):
I think that's mccaffery's case too, So so yes, the
answer I think is that those guys, I think that
there are three players and I should have mentioned McCaffrey.
The knock on McCaffrey would be the other guys around him,
you know, like that they also have Debo, and they
also have by Yuk, and they also have Kittle and
like they're really good across the board anyway, Like, yeah,
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that's true, And so I think there's a I think
there's a legitimate case for these guys, for for three
non quarterbacks, the three guys we just talked about if
we are talking about the quarterbacks, the two guys I
think that I would at least make a case for
right now would be Dak Prescott Dalla So. I think
he's playing his best football and I don't think the
skill talent around him outside of Ceedee Lamba is that great,
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and I think he's playing out of his mind good
and he's a big reason why they've got a chance
to challenge the Eagles to win the NFC East. And
then the other one would be Lamar Jackson, who you know,
for some reason outside the league, he's not getting I
think the credit he deserves the credit that he got,
the attention that he got back in twenty nineteen. But
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when I ran that poll in mid season of all
these executives, he was the overwhelming winner of the MVP Award,
And you know, most of the guys came back to
me and said, he's so much more of a threat
with his arm now with Todd Unkin as his offensive coordinator,
and you know, and you see the Ravens, you look
at him. I think they've got the two best wins
of the season too, with the ways that they with
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the way they were able to dominate Detroit and Seattle. Like,
I think that those two games are as well as
any team's played all year long, and a big part
of it is because of what Lamar's doing out there
for them. So I would say, you know, the five
would be in my group would be Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott,
Christian McCaffrey, A. J. Brown, and Tyreek Hill and gun
(31:08):
to my head, I think right now i'd probably Dick Dak,
but no Stroud, I'm and Lamar.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
No c J. Stroud?
Speaker 11 (31:14):
Ah Man, I like that.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
You know, why are you such an Ohio State hater?
Albert Jesus?
Speaker 11 (31:21):
I know, I know, I know. I'm an objective I'm
a jacted. Do you guys know that.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
I'm objectively saying you should be up above your guys
your picks.
Speaker 11 (31:30):
Do you think he should be above Dak and Lamar?
Speaker 6 (31:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (31:34):
I mean, I'll put it this way. He's been, he's been,
He's been throwing to tang.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Dell's a rookie, and he's the elevated level of everyone
else at a round him.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
He leads the league in yards.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I mean, could you make the case that any one
player has elevated their team more.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
Than c J.
Speaker 8 (31:48):
Stroud?
Speaker 11 (31:49):
Are we bought that? That brings up an interesting discussion, then, Brady.
Are we biased against rookies?
Speaker 6 (31:54):
Right? Yes?
Speaker 8 (31:55):
Probably?
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (31:57):
I made that discussion point.
Speaker 11 (31:58):
Yes, I'm saying, but I'm saying if you take that,
if you take it is like the fact that he's
a rookie out of it, right, If you take the
fact that he's a rookie out of it, and you
you explain the who the the skill players are Nico Collins,
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Tank Dell, Dalton Schultz. Right, they got good back in Pierce.
The lines didn't really they got good players in the line,
but they've been really banged up up front over the
course of the year. Yeah, you could definitely make a case.
Now I'd still I'd still say dak Or Lamar over him.
But I I mean, if they make the playoffs, like
I I certainly think there's a case to be made
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for c J. Stroud And obviously he's the runaway offensive
rookie of the.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
Year, wasn't they wined the division? Because that now looks
like it's in their sights.
Speaker 11 (32:52):
It didn't play. Yeah, I mean, especially with Trevor Lawrence
banged up, so you know, I I I think all
of that is all that's on the table for CJ.
If they win the division, if they're able to beat
out the jag and that division is better than we
and than anybody thought.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
It would be.
Speaker 11 (33:07):
Right the Colts, I mean, the Colts are right there
too with Gardner Minshew and there Anthony Richardson out. You know,
I think Shane Stiken has got a great case for
Coach of the Year. But yeah, I mean if the
if the Texans are able to win that division, I
mean Dimiko could be Coach of the Year and CJ
is automatic, I mean already automatic offensive Rookie of the Year,
but maybe an MVP candidate too.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Get him on Twitter at Albert Breer. He's a senior
NFL reporter at the m m QB also lead content
strategist there as well too, Albert. We appreciate it, man,
We'll do it again next week.
Speaker 8 (33:38):
Thanks big, al.
Speaker 11 (33:39):
They give you guys another drop there too, like whatever
that it was good.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
It was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
Nothing a little freestyle never hurt anybody.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
I'm certain Sam caught it though. There you go, as.
Speaker 11 (33:51):
Good as.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
That's the best. That's still a goat oh man.
Speaker 11 (33:59):
Okay, all right, Finder, we'll try to raise the barn
next week. How about that guy.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
We'll do it. We'll make it.
Speaker 8 (34:05):
Thank you for family.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
There.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
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Speaker 2 (35:09):
Two pros in a cup of show what even enough?
Speaker 3 (35:15):
At least? Or if they're out alright? Lead to laugh?
What do we got guys?
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Earlier in the show, we had a little little bit
of yacht talk. I actually have a story here that relates.
So Jake Gillenhall is going to be starring in the
upcoming Roadhouse remake and he's very upset at Prime Video
because they've decided to not do a theatrical release.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
They're gonna put it straight to streaming.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
So he actually got a meeting set up with Jeff
Bezos on his yacht to screen the film in order
to try to persuade him to give it a theatrical release.
So you guys enter out on the tactics used and
whether or not Roadhouse should be in theaters.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Can subscribe to me what a theatrical release is that
just putting in the theaters?
Speaker 6 (35:58):
Is that what you mean?
Speaker 4 (35:58):
That is correct? He said they're going to streaming.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Well wouldn't just that makes difference.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Well, people, people who you know, the movie makers, the actors,
the directors, they want their film in theaters absolutely.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Because they want to cut the the ticket purchases.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
That is that.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
That two also gives you a chance to be given
for awards, But you need to be to get an
award if you're on streaming for certain awards like the Oscars.
You need to have a certain amount of time in theaters.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Really, Yeah, wasn't The Irishman?
Speaker 5 (36:31):
The Irishman was in It was in select theaters even
though it's on Netflix.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
But but why would Jeff Bezos want him to send
this movie to theaters if it's going to go to Amazon, Like,
wouldn't it benefit Bezos to have it just go to Amazon?
Speaker 5 (36:47):
That's what they exactly what they're doing. But the filmmakers
are upset.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Jake J.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Hall, the director, Doug Lyman.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
Yeah, I mean just based on confusion. I'm out.
Speaker 8 (36:58):
I'm in only because I'm a little curious if you
sign up to do this movie.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Did they produce the movie and then not realize where
I was gonna be distributed?
Speaker 8 (37:08):
Is that how this worked out?
Speaker 5 (37:09):
Yeah, it was after the movie was already done with
production that they announced to them that, which.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
If you signed up for a movie and you didn't
know where this thing was gonna be distributed once you
think there's.
Speaker 8 (37:18):
A chance that might just go to streaming.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
I mean that is that's Netflix's platform exclusive original content,
and it's also Prime Videos. You think like going into it,
you'd like right in there, Hey, it has to be
in theaters.
Speaker 8 (37:31):
If I'm gonna be a part of this.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
You would, I would think, so. I'm sure he'll do
that in the future.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
So drop the ball on this one.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
By the way. You now, have you heard like some
actors will do this thing to where they'll defer any
like they'll just take back end royalties on stuff. And
I think it was Schwartzeneger I heard in an interview
one of the movies he did. I think he got
just back end royalties and at Crushed it made a killing.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Sylvester did that for sure.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Yeah, Like I know like some actors will do that
and just say no, and I'll take my chances. I'll
better myself. But this is going to do big numbers
and then they'll just make hundreds of millions of dollars.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
Gotta bet on yourself, guys.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Obviously we got Pats at Steelers for Thursday night football.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Are you guys enter out on fries on your sandwich out?
Speaker 6 (38:14):
Come on?
Speaker 1 (38:15):
If I'm in Pittsburgh again, Yeah, out anytime, and I'm
in if.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
It's shoelace fries, not the not the fat or fries,
because that it's just too much. I want to just
put a baked potato on your on your sliders while
we're at it.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
And I just realized that they call California burritos that
because they put fries in the burritos in which I
I guess I'll get the head nod over here.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
I guess that's the thing I didn't realize.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yeah, I don't fly Innxico. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 6 (38:43):
Man.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Oh yeah, you guys, Uh National Blue Jeans Day. I
don't think I've seen any of you guys wear blue jeans.
You guys out on blue jeans.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
All I have bat and sweat.
Speaker 8 (38:54):
Yeah, talk about it. I'm in on this. I'm out
of the whole national holiday thing. I think it's weirdn't
know why we do this.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
You guys do the stretchy blue jeans, right, the old school.
Speaker 8 (39:05):
Ones and stretchy ones.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Motive in flexibility squats
Speaker 11 (39:12):
M hm