April 17, 2025 • 39 mins
Brian Noe & Geoff Schwartz talk about reports that RB Ashton Jeanty could get drafted as high as No.5 overall by the Jacksonville Jaguars, the betting lines on where certain players will get drafted, a tennis story that's hard to believe, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh, good morning to you. I hope you're having a
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now is the time for the NFL draft rumors to
really kick into gear, and the newest rumor might be
completely false, not even close to accurate. That would be
running back Ashton genty to the Jags at five. What
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do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Huh? So? The way that for those who maybe don't
spend their time online like I do, or like Brian does,
there are a lot of mock drafts that get post
it correct by various sources, but there's only a couple
of them that I think really matter in the end. Okay,
So Peter Schrager does one like this week essentially next week,
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it's like that's his only one he does that it
feels pretty important. Daniel Jeremiah, Okay, right for NFL dot Colm,
He'll put out one funnel mock draft. You know, mel
Kiper and the guy's at ESPN put out you know
mock draft that I think moved the needle too. But
the other guy that that doesn't that moves needle is
Dane Brugler or the athletic I think that. I don't
know if you follow Dame, but he's fantastic at what
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he does, and he puts out this comprehensive draft. Guy,
I'm gonna give him shot out like it's called the Beast.
It's unbelievable. It's like three to fifty scouting land Zerline
NFL dot Colm, that's the same thing right now. Dot
Com does all the scouting reports for these guys. It's
it's a grateful resource, Brian, in the entire process those guys, Well,
Dane put out a full seven ond mock draft. He
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had Gently going five. He's the first guy that I've
seen that put Gently at five. And when someone like
Dane puts it out there, he's not doing it for
his own fun. He's doing because he hears things about
the behind the scenes right about what's going to happen. Now.
I don't think they're drafting Gentee at five. I just
don't believe that. I'll give you a couple reasons why.
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New general manager, young general manager. I think a lot
of the young general managers are anti running back in
the top five in general. I think that's the way
they feel, and they just it's not important to them
to draft that position early in the draft. This let's
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talk about the draft structure in general this year. Like
the players, okay, positions that are very health this year
the draft defensive line, okay, running back and probably a
wide receiver, right, like healthy position in the draft. So
if you're trying to get positions that are not in
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that group, early is better if you're one of the
top guys. But you can get a running back in
this draft, second, third, fourth round, that's probably gonna give
you production. Similar to to asking genty like that, is
that the best use of your fifth pick overall to
draft a running back? And I think some of these
guys we've seen, like the Raiders general manager come out
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recently and basically say like, yeah, we're not We're not
taking genty at six. This is not gonna happen. Like
we have other positions of need that are more valuable
for us that we can get now, we get a
back later, Brian. So I've seen that rumor. I don't
believe it. Maybe I'll be wrong. I think there's a
thought process that they need to help Trevor Lawrence a
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much as possible this season with a new staff. But
wouldn't that be wouldn't it be better to taking like
McMillan as a wide receiver and five to help Trevor
Lawrence in a running back? So I don't believe it,
but people are starting to write about it.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah. I don't believe it either. It's just you hit
on something pretty interesting a young GM. I would love
to know the young gms. We're talking their first draft
that took wild swings or aggressive swings to the point
where you could just picture the draft room just all
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in Unison turning at the GM like this, this is
the pick, this is what we're going with over here,
and listen. Ash is a really good prospect, though, Yeah,
and this is his first draft and you're gonna go
with Jent at five overall? I don't know, man, It's
one of these deals where if you have a great
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need and arguably the best prospect is on the board,
you know what I mean. You like you're drafting for
need versus drafting for best available. If it's the best
of both worlds, I don't know why you have to
go away from that. Their D line is really bad,
they need detac Mason Graham is right there. That's why
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you see him mocked in all these drafts here. It
makes sense, and so I don't I don't know why
you have to outthink the room to do that. It's
one of these deals Ashton Genty can be really good
in the NFL, that this is a deep running back draft.
And I didn't watch Jacksonville last year and think, man,
if they just had a running back look out, I
didn't think that. And even as special as gent was
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last year, he's not gonna make a shaky offensive line
way better, whether that's Jacksonville, the Raiders. Look at Saquon
with the Giants was not the same as Saquon with
the Eagles, you know. So to think that Genty is
just going to be behind a mediocre offensive line at
best and be special, that's wishful thinking to me.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
So you've heard me talk about this for years now,
and you know you're on the same way went on,
I think I think I'd converted you to this, but
you know.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
The Lakers are fools gold is it?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah? Yeah, I've been for years, you know, anti draft
running back in the first round. An I sign running
back like Saquan or Christian McCaffrey to a long term contract,
and I've moved off that position. Right, you get more information,
you move off of of opinions. But my opinion has
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changed to where you can only add those guys if
the rest of your offense is set. So Philly did that,
the Niners did that, and then super charges your offense. Right,
So if you're if you're the Raiders at six, you
bring you bring Gent in at six? What does that
do for your offense? Can you block for gent? Like? No,
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you can't. So what good is that? You're You're gonna
waste two years of his rookie contract building your offensive
lined around him versus the other way around. We just
build your offensive line first and find the back second. Plus,
this is a this is a great running back class.
Are you telling me that Caleb Johnson the second round
won't have an impactful season because the second round pick
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versus Gent in the first round. I just refuse to
believe that. So I think gent d this chance he
makes his like even twelve with the Cowboys, I just
well think about it. Okay, if he doesn't go five
or six, the next option is ten with the Bears.
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Ben Johnson came from the Lions head coach, certainly could
decide he wants to build this offense in the mold
of his you know, his Lions offenses. But Ryan Poles,
a general manager, has sort of made it clear that
his priority is getting bigger players right for his roster. Bigger, stronger,
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tougher Beth Screams defensive line at ten, maybe Tyler Warren
Tighten at ten. It's not going eleven to the nine ers.
The Cowboys are sitting there at twelve. I would imagine
that that. I think Jay Jones would be hard pressed
to pass up genty, But I mean, there's no chancing
I think he goes. There's a chance he dumps out
of the top ten. I'll tell you one one interesting thing.
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So we mentioned all the draft guys right that I trust,
and when they put mock drafts out, the gambling markets
often react wildly. So give you an example. Oh sure,
yesterday the Raiders were eight to one of the draft
Offensive Lineman. So if you bet ten dollars, you win eighty.
You bet one hundred, you win eight hundred. The warning
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they're three to one because yesterday a lot of time
was spent on the Internet talking about their general manager
made comments essentially saying like world building inside out. First
new general manager there, right, And so everyone's like, I'm
raiders Offensive Lineman, I'm in. So the numbers will. It's
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to me, it's not an indication of the actual decision
a team is gonna make. There's no inside information on this.
It's people just looking at the Internet and gambling and
making wagers accordingly, and the numbers move because of that.
It's not like a bunch of sharp people in Vegas.
It's not like Bill Krackenberger a partner on Sundays. It's
betting on radios to draft Offensive Lineman at five dimes
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to move the number. Ain't that right. It's recreational wagering
plus Internet information, and the numbers move quickly off of that.
So don't always look at that. It's like the be
all I know for where someone's gonna be drafted. But
I still, as you think, at three to one there's
still value on that. There's value allowing a lot of
these these these teams I like, I like these wagers,
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So I'm curious to see if if these move before Thursday.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Man, I'll tell you what draft steam is real, meaning
like there's a rumor out there, a gust thing, and
all of a sudden, betting lines start moving, and that
the steam is just going galore. You know, it's just
going going. It's an overdrive right there. Sometimes these rumors,
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like throughout the years, I'll never forget years ago where
like the day of the draft, I was working. One
of my friends was a Giants fan, and he goes, yeah,
I guess the the Giants are getting Daniel Jones at
number six. And I was like, what that came out
of nowhere? And I'm like, are you sure about that? Like, yeah,
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I guess it's gonna happen, And sure enough it did.
So some of these like ridiculous rumors turn out to
be true. Yeah, I'm just wondering which ones will happen
this year. It's gonna happen somewhere.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I'm looking at some of the numbers right now, Like
second offensive lineman drafted is is Membo minus one sixty five.
I mean that's still a good price. It's a little juicy, Yeah,
little juice there.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
But like you can, are you worried that he might
which are you more worried about that he goes one
or three? You know, if you're betting on him being
set one.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
He's not going three. We Will Campbell member are going
one two. I gave out Will Campblelly. First off, it's
a limon drafted like months ago. So I got here's
the thing about this too. I have some great.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Numbers, Brian, I have some great numbers for the draft, okay.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
And right closing line value to me sometimes is pointless.
So like I have, I have Will Campbell to be
the fourth pick in the draft at four to one. Okay,
he's minus two twenty five now, so I have a
lot of value in that wager. I hope, I hope
it hits. What's like, what's the point of getting a
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good number, but it never actually never hits?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Sure, yeah, it bothers. It's the ultimate. I always say
that we're on the same like school of thinking on
this one, where you could get great value on some
it has to have a chance of hitting correct. Like
I always use Olympic basketball as the example where if
someone's like, hey, I got Lithuania at eight to one,
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it should be more like twelve to one. The other
way around, I got it at twelve to one, it
should be more were like eight to one. It's like, well, congratulations,
you still lost your bet. There's no way they're winning goal.
What are you?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Me and you are so in the same wing wave here? People,
dude it. People love this this thing of like, you know,
look I I write, you know, for for Fox Sports,
and you know, they're always like, can you can you
write a piece about about finding value? And I'm like, yeah,
here's the number minus one twenty five. I like the
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value in that number based off of what the wager
is like, it doesn't have to be a lot. I'm
looking at like some of the wagers I have writ
I I I joke, I told you this before. I
am in I'm in South Carolina right now. That's a
state doesn't low local sports wagering. And I'm at the
northernmost like tip of South Carolina. Okay, I'm twelve minutes
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away from North Carolina. And the other day I went
to a grocery store that just happened to be on
the border, and just I just happened to have to
go in a North Carolina to make a U turn
back in the South Carolina, and it just happened to
place a bunch of wagers when I went to North Carolina.
I probably I think we need some strawberries today for
the place.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, some paches, some dry here without peaches. What's going on?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, I am. I will tell you right now. I
am going to North Carolina later today, armand menebu plus
five point fifty to be a six pick in the draft,
and we'll be wagered on today.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Okay, yeah, I am.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I am going to make some more wagers. Shoulder Sanders
to be the eighth pick in the draft is plus
sixteen hundred. There's a chance to Steelers, I think trade
up to eight to draft Sanders.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Oh okay, yeah, like oh.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Man, if like pick number nine, okay, it's a Saints pick.
You're Tyler Warren right now? Eight to one where they
don't draft the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, sure, Will.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Johnson twelve to one. I'm making all these.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Some of the odds blow my mind.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Where I'm driving, I'm driving, I'm driving straight to I
don't care. I don't tell my wife. I gotta do emergency.
I need to go to CVS for something Walgreens. Yeah,
I'm not feeling like my tummy hurts.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I'm not telling you to get away from our own
advice right here, right where it's like you got value
on it. Great, it still has to have a chance
of hitting. So I'm not telling you to bet this.
But my spiel for the Colts if Shaduur Sanders is
sitting there at twelfth, at fourteenth overall like you're starting
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quarterback and Anthony Richardson is putting up tims like numbers, right,
But the odds for Chaduur to the to the fourteenth pick,
which is the Colts pick right now, are so forget
about fourteenth, Just teams teams to draft Shadeur Sanders. The
Dolphins are at forty to one. The Colts are at
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fifty to one, which you think is more like you
think the Dolphins draft should on the roster. What is
that like? So the odds shouldn't be like that for
the Colts. But it's easy.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
What's so interesting doesn't matter? So okay, so Colts to
be so I see forty five to one here for
Santa by the Colts.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Okay, so it's moved a little bit.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
What's funny is Colts are drafted quarterback in the first
round is twenty eight to one.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So like they're don't any sense.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, Jackson Dart probably right at fourteen or fifty.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
They're they're trading down and getting Jackson Dart. That's the
come on.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So this is so the thing about the draft wagress too,
is you get this this wide range of like they
don't really line.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Up with each other, right, Yeah, just go with Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I'm gonna I'm gonna probably give five. Yes, I have
like I have Colston Lovelin to be the first time
I selected at five to one. I mean people have
him as the number. People on their boards have him
as the best idea, don't. I don't know five to
one for that? Yeah, sure, small sprinkle on that. I
definitely got to go to North Carolina today and make
this happen. It's my wife said to me. I told
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her I did this the other day. She goes, She's
something like, it is it really that important to gamble.
I'm like, yes, actually it is, Yes, I think yes
it is. I have off shorts I used but yeah,
I know. I want to be able to to uh
to do this. So yes, I will go in the
North Carolina later today and make some of these rangers.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
So it was the sinct, you know, it was digestible.
That are you don't have to.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Go to this.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I had to go to the grocery store.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, you needed pears, honey, we don't have pairs. How
are we in South Carolina without wet strawberries?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Today? We use strawberries. Would you need some dry goods?
So I'm gonna make a I'm gonna make a jaunt
over to the uh the border quickly.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Very nice, very nice. Hope that goes well? All right,
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian. Now we're in for Two
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Speaker 3 (17:06):
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Speaker 1 (17:20):
It is Fox Sports Radio, he's shorts. I'm Brian. Know
we're in for two pros and a cup of Joe
live from the Tireck dot Com studios. I guess it's
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what we're working with, Jeff. We'll be back tomorrow too,
looking forward to that.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I know we're back in tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
How many yeah, how many wagers you make tonight or
throughout the day today?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
What I was so when they have an over under
for draft position, right, so like under twenty nine and
a half means your pick one through twenty eight, correct?
I know?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
It's so yeah, right, Yeah, it's so weird. How Yeah,
it's odd?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yep, Yeah, it's backwards in your head, right and over
is basically pick thirty to whatever that's right.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
And I don't know why, but my mind works the
same way where I'm like, wait, what what am I
betting on?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Now?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
If I'm under ten and a half, it's got to
be a top ten pick correct? Whatever reason, it just
doesn't click in your brain. Yeah, it's strange.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
The problem is these these numbers are so juiced. It's
like impossible to wager on a lot of these, which
kind of goes what's funny because because it goes against it,
you are I thought about the value a situation, right,
but some of these they're just not there's not a
value on.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
These, So you know, is there anything that's such it's
it's as close to a lock as you can get
where it's still worth the juice that you have to lay.
And it's for everybody out there. It's not hardcore gambling,
like Jeff and I are driving to legal states to
place wagers. Like if you're not down like that, it's fine,
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but it's just a tax, right, Like if it's something
is so likely to happen, like say the Lakers not
winning a championship, right, you're gonna have to lay heavy
juice so you can.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
So you know, you could, you could you know this,
you could wager on stage of elimination. And I've looked
at stay with state, so like exact exact round elimination
for the Lakers, uh is conference finals plus two ninety.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Okay, it's not a bad wager, right, No, I don't
hate that they have a favorable path to get to
the conference finals.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
And then yeah, there it's just so this this is
sort of opposite, right where exact. So the first round
is plus one sixty, they're not getting eliminated there, but
conference finals there's no plus plus two ninety, so you
can you can wager on that.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
That's not bad. That's not a bad wager at all.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Right, not a bad wager at all. So so you can.
IM gonna add this the portfolio when I when I
crossed the border this morning.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So I'll put Lakers trolling to the side. But ask
yourself this, what do you think the series price would
be if it's OKAYC and Lakers in the way, you're.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Not getting you're not getting you're not getting plus two
ninety on the Lakers to lose the series.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
No, No, I don't think it would be that. It
maybe would be in the yeah, the plus two hundred
ish area. Maybe maybe with the Lakers in as such
a brand, it'd probably be like plus one something I
would think.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Especially if they if they if they're able to get
through the Rockets way relative ease, Like you mean this, okay, so.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Now you're putting the Rockets in the second round.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Well I don't. Here's the thing, Okay, So the Rockets
to lose in the second round, so they play the Warriors. Okay,
is plus three ten. I guess if you take them
on the money line. Wow, in this tournament, if you
take them on the money line and roll it over, well,
it wouldn't work it really that way.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
But plus, that's not a bad I like that bet. Right,
You just got to get by the Warriors, right.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, And that's a and that's a better number than
than they're than they're laying right now to get by
the Warriors.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, I don't hate that bet at all. That's that's
a pretty decent one right there. Rockets get bounced in
the second round. I just got to win the first
round and dods are pretty decent.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
So we get plus three ten to win the first round.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Basically, I don't hate it. I don't hate that at all.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I might I'm wagering today when I go to the
I talked to my wife in the break and I said,
I gotta go to the grocery store. She said, yeah,
we need fruit. We talked about it. I'll be dead serious.
She said the same. The kids don't have any fresh fruit,
do you know? Okay, but I know you don't have kids, like.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you just have a round robin
parlay that you want to throw out there.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
The thing that about kids and food is, you know,
the eat a lot of it. First of all, it's expensive,
but the amount of berries and fresh fruit the kids.
If you can, obviously this is a luxury. We can
afford the fruit and whatnot. But buddy, it is an
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excessive amount of fruit.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Ate.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Wow, interesting they got fruit.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
At a lot of fruit, a lot of berries.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
You know what, I'll tell you. The oranges in Vegas
right now, this is a fit stop, you know, right now.
They started off, Jeff, atrocious, horrible. I'm like, oh man,
these Vegas oranges are terrible. But they have stepped their
game up in a major way. I guess it's just
the season. Even the corn on the cob. You ever
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buy a corn on the cob from the store, I'm
from Indiana. That's corn country right there. Corn at the
store always sucks. I don't know why. It's freaking terrible.
I'm not sure. You got to buy it on some
like like near a farm, like some random stand, and
it's a sweet corn is tremendous. You go to a store,
you go to a grocery or awful, here in Vegas,
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the corner on the cops. Actually pretty good, pretty good,
it's pretty sweet, not bad at all, fantastically corn. Not elitist,
but yeah no no, not an elitist, but I know
bad corn from good.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Corn part of your discussion today.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
No, no, but that's the beauty of sports radio. You
have no idea where it's gonna go. How about this
the first round series price Warriors against the Rockets. The
Warriors are minus one ninety.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, that's silly.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
The Rockets are plus one sixty. I mean, I know
you're tempted to make that bet. You might make both.
You might make Rockets at plus one sixty to win
the first round. You might make make rockets at what'd
you say, plus three ten to lose in the second round.
You might make both of those bets.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, that just feels like just of course bias, tore words.
You know the you know the the the name of
the Warriors. They here's a concern about this series. In
my mind, this is the first round is a little
bit easier because they space the games a little bit more.
But the Warriors just have a bunch of old legs.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Man and dude, they're tired.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
They're tired, and I know you get more space in
this in this first round they get you know, some
day there's sometimes three days off between games, maybe even
longer than that. The Rockets just have younger legs, man,
And yet I have not been there before, and certainly
that it's fair. In the NBA, we often see it
takes a couple of years to of of playoff experience
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to get to where you want to be. And that's
is my one coat of okac is they've done the
last couple of years, but they haven't gone there quite yet.
But the Rockets are younger. I get that they have
experienced coach, which which is helpful. But the Warriors just
are old, man, and I don't know they could seven
game series? Can they can their legs withstand that?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, that's a legitimate question. And that's the thing that's
where youth is an automatically bad across the board. You know,
this is the one instance where youth can really help you, Amen,
Thompson being up Steph Curry. We just saw this where
Steph had three points against the Rockets the last go around,
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and he's too special of a player to be held
down to that degree. But to your point, the young legs,
the youth It's not just hey, they haven't been here before.
They don't know what it's like. They don't know the intensity.
There's a big moment, got to have a clutch shot.
It's not just negative all across the board. If you're
facing a team that's a little bit longer in the
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tooth like the Warriors are and they're run down, youth
can actually help you. It's not a bad thing all
across the board.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I think it's good. It's fine early in the postseason,
but I do think that that it does matter later.
We've just seen year after year after hearing in the NBA,
where you know, having a little bit of we've done
this before as the rounds get later is very helpful
to winning.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, absolutely it is. And I'm curious how the Rockets perform.
I just think plus one sixty as a two seed,
that's pretty disrespectful, man.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I know.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Listen, the Warriors have played great with Jimmy Butler going
over there. Their record has been really good since the
All Star break, but they are worn down. They lost
two of their final three. They lost to the Spurs
at home, you know what I mean, So they're a
little bit tired. I wouldn't be shocked at all if
the Rockets won their first round series. Let me shift
(26:44):
it back to ball here real fast on you, Jeff
where I'm curious where you come out on this one.
If you think about Shador Sanders and where he might
go in the NFL draft, and it's not like he's immobile.
He can move around a little bit bit, right. He's
not Lamar Jackson, but he's not exactly Philip Rivers either.
(27:04):
He can move around a bit, but he's not dynamic.
But it leads to the question of this, do you
view mobility as an NFL quarterback as a necessity you
gotta have it or is it a luxury? It's something
that you would like to have there, But where do
you come up on that? Because it's important when you're
evaluating quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Okay, so when you say mobility, are you talking about
pocket mobility or the ability to leave the pocket?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
It would be ideally a blend of both where you
can buy time. Think about big Ben. Big Ben was
not a guy that was really mobile, but he could
buy time all day. So you're right, there is a difference.
Real mobility would be both.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
To answer the question, I think that NFL fans get
enamored with quarterbacks ability to to run the football, and
I and I always argue that the mobility in the
pocket is far more important, and I actually think Sanders
can do that pretty well. The ability to escape is
(28:13):
an added benefit to the mobility of the pocket. But
I'd rather have a guy who was comfortable throwing from
the pocket and the guy that that left the pocket
to throw the ball, you know what I mean. So
I think it's gonna be fine. He just has the
tailor's game, like in color in college when he went
to run, there were times when it's like very clearly,
like buddy, you don't have this in you, you know,
(28:35):
like in an NFL is gonna be worse. And so
it's about just tailoring his game now, knowing that that
he can escape when everyone's backs turned it's two man.
But he's not gonna He's got to predicate his game
on getting the ball out quickly in the NFL because
he cannot scramble and make plays where like you obviously
Josh Allen Mahomes all those guys Lamar can do all that.
I saw some of it pretty interesting. Did you see
(28:58):
Brandon Bean, the bill general manager, He basically you know
it told Josh Allen like, hey, can you how about
you you stop scrambling so much? And Josh Allen came
back at him and said, have you seen my completion
percentage when I throw the ball within a yard of
the sidelines? Which is kind why we think about it? Yeah,
josh a has made.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
What's falling out of bounds?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, sure all the time. Look, those are great, but
I would rather my quarterback was better from the pocket.
I'm not saying Josh Allen's back from the pocket, by
the way, So UH want answer your question. I think
pocket mobility is one. I mean the ability to escape
the pocket is probably two.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Okay, that makes sense. I'm along similar lines where I'd
put it this way. If we're looking at mobility, is
it a luxury or a necessity? Do you have to
have it? Because there are a lot of people that
act like you have to have this. I'm all for it.
I'm all for mobility as long as the quarterback has
throwing ability, you know what I mean. Like if Justin
(29:58):
Fields is a great athlete, now the Jets quarterback, he
leaves a lot to be desired with throwing throwing ability.
Tibo Tibo was a good athlete, you could not throw.
You got to be able to throw. That's where I
have questions about Jalen Milroe. Jalen Milroe is a dynamic athlete.
Throwing ability very inconsistent. Not a fan, So I'm not
(30:23):
anti mobility. You can move around, you can put a
lot of stress on a defense, but you have to
have throwing ability. And there are some quarterbacks that just don't.
And people act like Justin Fields is like how long
are people going to be waiting for Justin Fields to
actually be good? There are people still holding out hope.
It's like, bro, we're going into what like you're six
(30:43):
or something here, like by now, it's not happening.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
It's not happening. There's people have like a love affair
with quarterbacks talent, and I just have a love affair
with like looking at production, you know, yeah, those of
us is not produced. He's not on his four third team.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Like third team, fifth year.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, well it's going to be better now. I mean
everyone looks like Darnold. It's like, see, like that's the example. Yeah, yeah,
like that's a rare example. And to be fair, I
don't think something's gonna have that year in Seattle this year.
So all that.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Like, I don't either, So all that.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, great last one year in Minnesota, great job. I
don't see that continue in Seattle.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Now, you had so much talent around him in Minnesota.
He doesn't have the same talent and he's.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Just not correct.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
You downgraded from Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison to what
old Cooper Cup and MVS and a decent OFFENSEI I
like Jackson, yeah, I like uh, I like JSN, Jackson
Smith and Jigba is a good player, But I mean
Cooper Cup and MVS. Really we're expecting Minnesota numbers. That's
(31:57):
not happening. But behind a bad offense of line, no,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
It's like, hey, this offensive line is leaky and Sam
Darnold is really shaky against pressure. He's like, well, that's
not a good You just talked about pocket mobility. That's
not a good combination.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
At all, no terrible combination.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
How many times I was yelling at my TV the
playoff game against the Rams, I'm like, throw the ball,
throw it, just throw it away. If any of this
He's just like, oh, there's a big, angry man running
at me at full steam. I probably have maybe two
more seconds. Bam, No, actually I had half a second. Like,
what is he doing?
Speaker 2 (32:40):
He so much money in those two games?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
He really did.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
It wasn't great.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
That was not good at all. All right, He's Jeff Schwartz.
I'm Brian No. Coming up next. This story sounds like
it's made up, but oh no, it is real. We'll
share it with you next. It's two Pros and a
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actually a couple of stories, uh more bang for your
buck here. These sound made up, they're real, Jeff. So
the first one, we go to tennis. We go to
(34:15):
the Ruaw Open, little French action over here. So there's
one tennis player. I don't know if you've heard about
this story, but what one Terry tennis player, Harriet Dart.
She's getting smacked around here. She ended up losing this
match six nothing, six'. Three, Okay so she's getting worked
(34:35):
and during a changeover in the second, set she was
talking about her opponent and said this to the chair. Umpire,
yeah she's can you tell her where? Deodorant over? Here
she smells really. Bad so what she said very. Rude
and since, then, Yeah Harriet dart has. Apology she, said, uh,
(35:02):
basically that's not, me that's not WHO i want to.
BE i was in the heat of the. MOMENT i regret, it, YadA.
YadA and the other tennis, player this Is Lois. Boissau
she posted on ig she had up fun with. This
this was the tennis player who was accused of. Stinking you.
Know so she posted her picture on ig and had
(35:24):
like a Little dove bottle in her, hand you, know
like a graph and she put she put apparently need
a collab and she tagged the Brand. Dove SO i
was just joking around as if she stinks that was,
fun you, know just poke funner yourself. Worked, WELL i.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Think that's what you should. Do trick a clab out of.
It that's.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Exactly, yeah that's how you handle it right. There but
how about that during a? Match, like, yeah she, stinks,
Man so what'd she?
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Expect what does she expect to? Happen like they're going
to go back and tell, her like to put on.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Deutterant, yeah, like well you know, what, hey we need
you to you, know at least put some spray. ON
i don't, know but it's. Alarming what's going? On what
are we? Doing this is? Sports people? Stink it goes?
Right how many stinky defensive. Linemen have you encountered in your.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Day all of? Them they'll stink? Them, no do it
of any of?
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Them is there anyone that comes to, mind anyone that
stink more than like a normal amount of.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Stink, NO i think we're JUST i mean the heated.
BATTLE i don't know IF i really was able to
smell any of. THEM i just assumed that they all
stink because they're just their. Defensivelignment that's. True that's it's
just maybe a poor assumption on my, Part. Brian for
the last like twelve, Minutes i've been looking at draft.
Odds by the, WAY i have written a Note i've
written them down a notebook for WHAT i want to
(36:49):
wager on after the.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Show how many wagers are you going to have after
the show.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
For the draft or just how? MANY I yea do
make so you know what's? Okay so The saints are
draft to tight end is sixteen to one at.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
BET, Mgm, wow wow we could.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
See that, happen, Right Tyler warren with With Jawan.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
JOHNSON i could see that.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Happen that even a cornerback is nine to one on D.
K if they don't draft a, quarterback they're taking those two.
POSITIONS i guess they could take wide receiver certainly and
you be screwed. There but even a wide receiver is
still eleven to.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
One it's funny to me that you just sent me
the offshore. Stuff, yeah the odds of where he's, going
it's funny, that like the best odds are him going
to The. Saints but, again some of Those saints beat,
reporters they're, like it's a total. Joke they're not drafting
(37:49):
a quarterback to be that strong with. It, Yeah i'm
not saying that's destined to, happen but like you would
leave yourself some wiggle, room would, you? Not? Right, like
and there are just a couple of what about.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
So under two and a half quarterbacks drafted is plus
about plus three hundred so three to one always Certain
Jackson Johnson dart's being drafted in the first.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Round we're not. Certain, no, absolutely we're not. Certain BUT
i don't love that bet if it got to three
and a, HALF i like.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
That obviously three and a half you have to, lay
like you have to lay one to win. Three it's
a problem and would be so.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Juice, yeah that's too. Heavy the other, WAY i don't
like it either. WAY i don't like it BECAUSE i
think there's a decent chance we get three in the first.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Round wish you had parlay some of, these which you,
CAN'T i don't, think because it just makes the. Juice
it makes lay in the juice a little bit like
it's what was hever select in the first round over
two and a half is minus two. Fifty we're getting
at least, three, RIGHT.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
I don't know you would. Think by the, way before
we get out of, Here, jeff we've left minimal time
For Justin, cooper our strong producer, here this story is
even more. Alarming sounds like it's completely made. Up have
you heard about? This apparently there is going to be
a sperm race In Los. Angeles, YEAH i mean this
(39:21):
Is coop gave me the details when we were off the.
Air they're going to have announcers. Replay it's live. Streamed
they have one HEALTHY usc, student one HEALTHY ucla. Student
this sounds like a sign of the, apocalypse does it?
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Not can we gamble on?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
It, YES i think you're more likely to Take ucla
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now is the time for the NFL draft rumors to
really kick into gear, and the newest rumor might be
completely false, not even close to accurate. That would be
running back Ashton genty to the Jags at five. What
(00:45):
do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Huh? So? The way that for those who maybe don't
spend their time online like I do, or like Brian does,
there are a lot of mock drafts that get post
it correct by various sources, but there's only a couple
of them that I think really matter in the end. Okay,
So Peter Schrager does one like this week essentially next week,
(01:11):
it's like that's his only one he does that it
feels pretty important. Daniel Jeremiah, Okay, right for NFL dot Colm,
He'll put out one funnel mock draft. You know, mel
Kiper and the guy's at ESPN put out you know
mock draft that I think moved the needle too. But
the other guy that that doesn't that moves needle is
Dane Brugler or the athletic I think that. I don't
know if you follow Dame, but he's fantastic at what
(01:33):
he does, and he puts out this comprehensive draft. Guy,
I'm gonna give him shot out like it's called the Beast.
It's unbelievable. It's like three to fifty scouting land Zerline
NFL dot Colm, that's the same thing right now. Dot
Com does all the scouting reports for these guys. It's
it's a grateful resource, Brian, in the entire process those guys, Well,
Dane put out a full seven ond mock draft. He
(01:54):
had Gently going five. He's the first guy that I've
seen that put Gently at five. And when someone like
Dane puts it out there, he's not doing it for
his own fun. He's doing because he hears things about
the behind the scenes right about what's going to happen. Now.
I don't think they're drafting Gentee at five. I just
don't believe that. I'll give you a couple reasons why.
(02:16):
New general manager, young general manager. I think a lot
of the young general managers are anti running back in
the top five in general. I think that's the way
they feel, and they just it's not important to them
to draft that position early in the draft. This let's
(02:37):
talk about the draft structure in general this year. Like
the players, okay, positions that are very health this year
the draft defensive line, okay, running back and probably a
wide receiver, right, like healthy position in the draft. So
if you're trying to get positions that are not in
(02:59):
that group, early is better if you're one of the
top guys. But you can get a running back in
this draft, second, third, fourth round, that's probably gonna give
you production. Similar to to asking genty like that, is
that the best use of your fifth pick overall to
draft a running back? And I think some of these
guys we've seen, like the Raiders general manager come out
(03:19):
recently and basically say like, yeah, we're not We're not
taking genty at six. This is not gonna happen. Like
we have other positions of need that are more valuable
for us that we can get now, we get a
back later, Brian. So I've seen that rumor. I don't
believe it. Maybe I'll be wrong. I think there's a
thought process that they need to help Trevor Lawrence a
(03:41):
much as possible this season with a new staff. But
wouldn't that be wouldn't it be better to taking like
McMillan as a wide receiver and five to help Trevor
Lawrence in a running back? So I don't believe it,
but people are starting to write about it.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah. I don't believe it either. It's just you hit
on something pretty interesting a young GM. I would love
to know the young gms. We're talking their first draft
that took wild swings or aggressive swings to the point
where you could just picture the draft room just all
(04:17):
in Unison turning at the GM like this, this is
the pick, this is what we're going with over here,
and listen. Ash is a really good prospect, though, Yeah,
and this is his first draft and you're gonna go
with Jent at five overall? I don't know, man, It's
one of these deals where if you have a great
(04:40):
need and arguably the best prospect is on the board,
you know what I mean. You like you're drafting for
need versus drafting for best available. If it's the best
of both worlds, I don't know why you have to
go away from that. Their D line is really bad,
they need detac Mason Graham is right there. That's why
(05:01):
you see him mocked in all these drafts here. It
makes sense, and so I don't I don't know why
you have to outthink the room to do that. It's
one of these deals Ashton Genty can be really good
in the NFL, that this is a deep running back draft.
And I didn't watch Jacksonville last year and think, man,
if they just had a running back look out, I
didn't think that. And even as special as gent was
(05:26):
last year, he's not gonna make a shaky offensive line
way better, whether that's Jacksonville, the Raiders. Look at Saquon
with the Giants was not the same as Saquon with
the Eagles, you know. So to think that Genty is
just going to be behind a mediocre offensive line at
best and be special, that's wishful thinking to me.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
So you've heard me talk about this for years now,
and you know you're on the same way went on,
I think I think I'd converted you to this, but
you know.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
The Lakers are fools gold is it?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah? Yeah, I've been for years, you know, anti draft
running back in the first round. An I sign running
back like Saquan or Christian McCaffrey to a long term contract,
and I've moved off that position. Right, you get more information,
you move off of of opinions. But my opinion has
(06:20):
changed to where you can only add those guys if
the rest of your offense is set. So Philly did that,
the Niners did that, and then super charges your offense. Right,
So if you're if you're the Raiders at six, you
bring you bring Gent in at six? What does that
do for your offense? Can you block for gent? Like? No,
(06:43):
you can't. So what good is that? You're You're gonna
waste two years of his rookie contract building your offensive
lined around him versus the other way around. We just
build your offensive line first and find the back second. Plus,
this is a this is a great running back class.
Are you telling me that Caleb Johnson the second round
won't have an impactful season because the second round pick
(07:05):
versus Gent in the first round. I just refuse to
believe that. So I think gent d this chance he
makes his like even twelve with the Cowboys, I just
well think about it. Okay, if he doesn't go five
or six, the next option is ten with the Bears.
(07:26):
Ben Johnson came from the Lions head coach, certainly could
decide he wants to build this offense in the mold
of his you know, his Lions offenses. But Ryan Poles,
a general manager, has sort of made it clear that
his priority is getting bigger players right for his roster. Bigger, stronger,
(07:47):
tougher Beth Screams defensive line at ten, maybe Tyler Warren
Tighten at ten. It's not going eleven to the nine ers.
The Cowboys are sitting there at twelve. I would imagine
that that. I think Jay Jones would be hard pressed
to pass up genty, But I mean, there's no chancing
I think he goes. There's a chance he dumps out
of the top ten. I'll tell you one one interesting thing.
(08:10):
So we mentioned all the draft guys right that I trust,
and when they put mock drafts out, the gambling markets
often react wildly. So give you an example. Oh sure,
yesterday the Raiders were eight to one of the draft
Offensive Lineman. So if you bet ten dollars, you win eighty.
You bet one hundred, you win eight hundred. The warning
(08:31):
they're three to one because yesterday a lot of time
was spent on the Internet talking about their general manager
made comments essentially saying like world building inside out. First
new general manager there, right, And so everyone's like, I'm
raiders Offensive Lineman, I'm in. So the numbers will. It's
(08:52):
to me, it's not an indication of the actual decision
a team is gonna make. There's no inside information on this.
It's people just looking at the Internet and gambling and
making wagers accordingly, and the numbers move because of that.
It's not like a bunch of sharp people in Vegas.
It's not like Bill Krackenberger a partner on Sundays. It's
betting on radios to draft Offensive Lineman at five dimes
(09:14):
to move the number. Ain't that right. It's recreational wagering
plus Internet information, and the numbers move quickly off of that.
So don't always look at that. It's like the be
all I know for where someone's gonna be drafted. But
I still, as you think, at three to one there's
still value on that. There's value allowing a lot of
these these these teams I like, I like these wagers,
(09:35):
So I'm curious to see if if these move before Thursday.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Man, I'll tell you what draft steam is real, meaning
like there's a rumor out there, a gust thing, and
all of a sudden, betting lines start moving, and that
the steam is just going galore. You know, it's just
going going. It's an overdrive right there. Sometimes these rumors,
(09:59):
like throughout the years, I'll never forget years ago where
like the day of the draft, I was working. One
of my friends was a Giants fan, and he goes, yeah,
I guess the the Giants are getting Daniel Jones at
number six. And I was like, what that came out
of nowhere? And I'm like, are you sure about that? Like, yeah,
(10:20):
I guess it's gonna happen, And sure enough it did.
So some of these like ridiculous rumors turn out to
be true. Yeah, I'm just wondering which ones will happen
this year. It's gonna happen somewhere.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I'm looking at some of the numbers right now, Like
second offensive lineman drafted is is Membo minus one sixty five.
I mean that's still a good price. It's a little juicy, Yeah,
little juice there.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
But like you can, are you worried that he might
which are you more worried about that he goes one
or three? You know, if you're betting on him being
set one.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
He's not going three. We Will Campbell member are going
one two. I gave out Will Campblelly. First off, it's
a limon drafted like months ago. So I got here's
the thing about this too. I have some great.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Numbers, Brian, I have some great numbers for the draft, okay.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
And right closing line value to me sometimes is pointless.
So like I have, I have Will Campbell to be
the fourth pick in the draft at four to one. Okay,
he's minus two twenty five now, so I have a
lot of value in that wager. I hope, I hope
it hits. What's like, what's the point of getting a
(11:31):
good number, but it never actually never hits?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Sure, yeah, it bothers. It's the ultimate. I always say
that we're on the same like school of thinking on
this one, where you could get great value on some
it has to have a chance of hitting correct. Like
I always use Olympic basketball as the example where if
someone's like, hey, I got Lithuania at eight to one,
(11:55):
it should be more like twelve to one. The other
way around, I got it at twelve to one, it
should be more were like eight to one. It's like, well, congratulations,
you still lost your bet. There's no way they're winning goal.
What are you?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Me and you are so in the same wing wave here? People,
dude it. People love this this thing of like, you know,
look I I write, you know, for for Fox Sports,
and you know, they're always like, can you can you
write a piece about about finding value? And I'm like, yeah,
here's the number minus one twenty five. I like the
(12:27):
value in that number based off of what the wager
is like, it doesn't have to be a lot. I'm
looking at like some of the wagers I have writ
I I I joke, I told you this before. I
am in I'm in South Carolina right now. That's a
state doesn't low local sports wagering. And I'm at the
northernmost like tip of South Carolina. Okay, I'm twelve minutes
(12:49):
away from North Carolina. And the other day I went
to a grocery store that just happened to be on
the border, and just I just happened to have to
go in a North Carolina to make a U turn
back in the South Carolina, and it just happened to
place a bunch of wagers when I went to North Carolina.
I probably I think we need some strawberries today for
the place.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, some paches, some dry here without peaches. What's going on?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Yeah, I am. I will tell you right now. I
am going to North Carolina later today, armand menebu plus
five point fifty to be a six pick in the draft,
and we'll be wagered on today.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Okay, yeah, I am.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I am going to make some more wagers. Shoulder Sanders
to be the eighth pick in the draft is plus
sixteen hundred. There's a chance to Steelers, I think trade
up to eight to draft Sanders.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Oh okay, yeah, like oh.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Man, if like pick number nine, okay, it's a Saints pick.
You're Tyler Warren right now? Eight to one where they
don't draft the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, sure, Will.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Johnson twelve to one. I'm making all these.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Some of the odds blow my mind.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Where I'm driving, I'm driving, I'm driving straight to I
don't care. I don't tell my wife. I gotta do emergency.
I need to go to CVS for something Walgreens. Yeah,
I'm not feeling like my tummy hurts.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I'm not telling you to get away from our own
advice right here, right where it's like you got value
on it. Great, it still has to have a chance
of hitting. So I'm not telling you to bet this.
But my spiel for the Colts if Shaduur Sanders is
sitting there at twelfth, at fourteenth overall like you're starting
(14:35):
quarterback and Anthony Richardson is putting up tims like numbers, right,
But the odds for Chaduur to the to the fourteenth pick,
which is the Colts pick right now, are so forget
about fourteenth, Just teams teams to draft Shadeur Sanders. The
Dolphins are at forty to one. The Colts are at
(14:56):
fifty to one, which you think is more like you
think the Dolphins draft should on the roster. What is
that like? So the odds shouldn't be like that for
the Colts. But it's easy.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
What's so interesting doesn't matter? So okay, so Colts to
be so I see forty five to one here for
Santa by the Colts.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Okay, so it's moved a little bit.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
What's funny is Colts are drafted quarterback in the first
round is twenty eight to one.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So like they're don't any sense.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, Jackson Dart probably right at fourteen or fifty.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
They're they're trading down and getting Jackson Dart. That's the
come on.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
So this is so the thing about the draft wagress too,
is you get this this wide range of like they
don't really line.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Up with each other, right, Yeah, just go with Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I'm gonna I'm gonna probably give five. Yes, I have
like I have Colston Lovelin to be the first time
I selected at five to one. I mean people have
him as the number. People on their boards have him
as the best idea, don't. I don't know five to
one for that? Yeah, sure, small sprinkle on that. I
definitely got to go to North Carolina today and make
this happen. It's my wife said to me. I told
(16:06):
her I did this the other day. She goes, She's
something like, it is it really that important to gamble.
I'm like, yes, actually it is, Yes, I think yes
it is. I have off shorts I used but yeah,
I know. I want to be able to to uh
to do this. So yes, I will go in the
North Carolina later today and make some of these rangers.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
So it was the sinct, you know, it was digestible.
That are you don't have to.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Go to this.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I had to go to the grocery store.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah, you needed pears, honey, we don't have pairs. How
are we in South Carolina without wet strawberries?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Today? We use strawberries. Would you need some dry goods?
So I'm gonna make a I'm gonna make a jaunt
over to the uh the border quickly.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Very nice, very nice. Hope that goes well? All right,
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian. Now we're in for Two
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Speaker 1 (17:20):
It is Fox Sports Radio, he's shorts. I'm Brian. Know
we're in for two pros and a cup of Joe
live from the Tireck dot Com studios. I guess it's
like one pro and a cup of no today is
what we're working with, Jeff. We'll be back tomorrow too,
looking forward to that.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I know we're back in tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
How many yeah, how many wagers you make tonight or
throughout the day today?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
What I was so when they have an over under
for draft position, right, so like under twenty nine and
a half means your pick one through twenty eight, correct?
I know?
Speaker 1 (17:59):
It's so yeah, right, Yeah, it's so weird. How Yeah,
it's odd?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yep, Yeah, it's backwards in your head, right and over
is basically pick thirty to whatever that's right.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
And I don't know why, but my mind works the
same way where I'm like, wait, what what am I
betting on?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Now?
Speaker 1 (18:18):
If I'm under ten and a half, it's got to
be a top ten pick correct? Whatever reason, it just
doesn't click in your brain. Yeah, it's strange.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
The problem is these these numbers are so juiced. It's
like impossible to wager on a lot of these, which
kind of goes what's funny because because it goes against it,
you are I thought about the value a situation, right,
but some of these they're just not there's not a
value on.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
These, So you know, is there anything that's such it's
it's as close to a lock as you can get
where it's still worth the juice that you have to lay.
And it's for everybody out there. It's not hardcore gambling,
like Jeff and I are driving to legal states to
place wagers. Like if you're not down like that, it's fine,
(19:01):
but it's just a tax, right, Like if it's something
is so likely to happen, like say the Lakers not
winning a championship, right, you're gonna have to lay heavy
juice so you can.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
So you know, you could, you could you know this,
you could wager on stage of elimination. And I've looked
at stay with state, so like exact exact round elimination
for the Lakers, uh is conference finals plus two ninety.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Okay, it's not a bad wager, right, No, I don't
hate that they have a favorable path to get to
the conference finals.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
And then yeah, there it's just so this this is
sort of opposite, right where exact. So the first round
is plus one sixty, they're not getting eliminated there, but
conference finals there's no plus plus two ninety, so you
can you can wager on that.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
That's not bad. That's not a bad wager at all.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Right, not a bad wager at all. So so you can.
IM gonna add this the portfolio when I when I
crossed the border this morning.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So I'll put Lakers trolling to the side. But ask
yourself this, what do you think the series price would
be if it's OKAYC and Lakers in the way, you're.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Not getting you're not getting you're not getting plus two
ninety on the Lakers to lose the series.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
No, No, I don't think it would be that. It
maybe would be in the yeah, the plus two hundred
ish area. Maybe maybe with the Lakers in as such
a brand, it'd probably be like plus one something I
would think.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Especially if they if they if they're able to get
through the Rockets way relative ease, Like you mean this, okay, so.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Now you're putting the Rockets in the second round.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Well I don't. Here's the thing, Okay, So the Rockets
to lose in the second round, so they play the Warriors. Okay,
is plus three ten. I guess if you take them
on the money line. Wow, in this tournament, if you
take them on the money line and roll it over, well,
it wouldn't work it really that way.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
But plus, that's not a bad I like that bet. Right,
You just got to get by the Warriors, right.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, And that's a and that's a better number than
than they're than they're laying right now to get by
the Warriors.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, I don't hate that bet at all. That's that's
a pretty decent one right there. Rockets get bounced in
the second round. I just got to win the first
round and dods are pretty decent.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
So we get plus three ten to win the first round.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Basically, I don't hate it. I don't hate that at all.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
I might I'm wagering today when I go to the
I talked to my wife in the break and I said,
I gotta go to the grocery store. She said, yeah,
we need fruit. We talked about it. I'll be dead serious.
She said the same. The kids don't have any fresh fruit,
do you know? Okay, but I know you don't have kids, like.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you just have a round robin
parlay that you want to throw out there.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
The thing that about kids and food is, you know,
the eat a lot of it. First of all, it's expensive,
but the amount of berries and fresh fruit the kids.
If you can, obviously this is a luxury. We can
afford the fruit and whatnot. But buddy, it is an
(22:11):
excessive amount of fruit.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Ate.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Wow, interesting they got fruit.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
At a lot of fruit, a lot of berries.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
You know what, I'll tell you. The oranges in Vegas
right now, this is a fit stop, you know, right now.
They started off, Jeff, atrocious, horrible. I'm like, oh man,
these Vegas oranges are terrible. But they have stepped their
game up in a major way. I guess it's just
the season. Even the corn on the cob. You ever
(22:40):
buy a corn on the cob from the store, I'm
from Indiana. That's corn country right there. Corn at the
store always sucks. I don't know why. It's freaking terrible.
I'm not sure. You got to buy it on some
like like near a farm, like some random stand, and
it's a sweet corn is tremendous. You go to a store,
you go to a grocery or awful, here in Vegas,
(23:01):
the corner on the cops. Actually pretty good, pretty good,
it's pretty sweet, not bad at all, fantastically corn. Not elitist,
but yeah no no, not an elitist, but I know
bad corn from good.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Corn part of your discussion today.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
No, no, but that's the beauty of sports radio. You
have no idea where it's gonna go. How about this
the first round series price Warriors against the Rockets. The
Warriors are minus one ninety.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, that's silly.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
The Rockets are plus one sixty. I mean, I know
you're tempted to make that bet. You might make both.
You might make Rockets at plus one sixty to win
the first round. You might make make rockets at what'd
you say, plus three ten to lose in the second round.
You might make both of those bets.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, that just feels like just of course bias, tore words.
You know the you know the the the name of
the Warriors. They here's a concern about this series. In
my mind, this is the first round is a little
bit easier because they space the games a little bit more.
But the Warriors just have a bunch of old legs.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Man and dude, they're tired.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
They're tired, and I know you get more space in
this in this first round they get you know, some
day there's sometimes three days off between games, maybe even
longer than that. The Rockets just have younger legs, man,
And yet I have not been there before, and certainly
that it's fair. In the NBA, we often see it
takes a couple of years to of of playoff experience
(24:39):
to get to where you want to be. And that's
is my one coat of okac is they've done the
last couple of years, but they haven't gone there quite yet.
But the Rockets are younger. I get that they have
experienced coach, which which is helpful. But the Warriors just
are old, man, and I don't know they could seven
game series? Can they can their legs withstand that?
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah, that's a legitimate question. And that's the thing that's
where youth is an automatically bad across the board. You know,
this is the one instance where youth can really help you, Amen,
Thompson being up Steph Curry. We just saw this where
Steph had three points against the Rockets the last go around,
(25:23):
and he's too special of a player to be held
down to that degree. But to your point, the young legs,
the youth It's not just hey, they haven't been here before.
They don't know what it's like. They don't know the intensity.
There's a big moment, got to have a clutch shot.
It's not just negative all across the board. If you're
facing a team that's a little bit longer in the
(25:46):
tooth like the Warriors are and they're run down, youth
can actually help you. It's not a bad thing all
across the board.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I think it's good. It's fine early in the postseason,
but I do think that that it does matter later.
We've just seen year after year after hearing in the NBA,
where you know, having a little bit of we've done
this before as the rounds get later is very helpful
to winning.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, absolutely it is. And I'm curious how the Rockets perform.
I just think plus one sixty as a two seed,
that's pretty disrespectful, man.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
I know.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Listen, the Warriors have played great with Jimmy Butler going
over there. Their record has been really good since the
All Star break, but they are worn down. They lost
two of their final three. They lost to the Spurs
at home, you know what I mean, So they're a
little bit tired. I wouldn't be shocked at all if
the Rockets won their first round series. Let me shift
(26:44):
it back to ball here real fast on you, Jeff
where I'm curious where you come out on this one.
If you think about Shador Sanders and where he might
go in the NFL draft, and it's not like he's immobile.
He can move around a little bit bit, right. He's
not Lamar Jackson, but he's not exactly Philip Rivers either.
(27:04):
He can move around a bit, but he's not dynamic.
But it leads to the question of this, do you
view mobility as an NFL quarterback as a necessity you
gotta have it or is it a luxury? It's something
that you would like to have there, But where do
you come up on that? Because it's important when you're
evaluating quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Okay, so when you say mobility, are you talking about
pocket mobility or the ability to leave the pocket?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
It would be ideally a blend of both where you
can buy time. Think about big Ben. Big Ben was
not a guy that was really mobile, but he could
buy time all day. So you're right, there is a difference.
Real mobility would be both.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
To answer the question, I think that NFL fans get
enamored with quarterbacks ability to to run the football, and
I and I always argue that the mobility in the
pocket is far more important, and I actually think Sanders
can do that pretty well. The ability to escape is
(28:13):
an added benefit to the mobility of the pocket. But
I'd rather have a guy who was comfortable throwing from
the pocket and the guy that that left the pocket
to throw the ball, you know what I mean. So
I think it's gonna be fine. He just has the
tailor's game, like in color in college when he went
to run, there were times when it's like very clearly,
like buddy, you don't have this in you, you know,
(28:35):
like in an NFL is gonna be worse. And so
it's about just tailoring his game now, knowing that that
he can escape when everyone's backs turned it's two man.
But he's not gonna He's got to predicate his game
on getting the ball out quickly in the NFL because
he cannot scramble and make plays where like you obviously
Josh Allen Mahomes all those guys Lamar can do all that.
I saw some of it pretty interesting. Did you see
(28:58):
Brandon Bean, the bill general manager, He basically you know
it told Josh Allen like, hey, can you how about
you you stop scrambling so much? And Josh Allen came
back at him and said, have you seen my completion
percentage when I throw the ball within a yard of
the sidelines? Which is kind why we think about it? Yeah,
josh a has made.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
What's falling out of bounds?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Yeah, sure all the time. Look, those are great, but
I would rather my quarterback was better from the pocket.
I'm not saying Josh Allen's back from the pocket, by
the way, So UH want answer your question. I think
pocket mobility is one. I mean the ability to escape
the pocket is probably two.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Okay, that makes sense. I'm along similar lines where I'd
put it this way. If we're looking at mobility, is
it a luxury or a necessity? Do you have to
have it? Because there are a lot of people that
act like you have to have this. I'm all for it.
I'm all for mobility as long as the quarterback has
throwing ability, you know what I mean. Like if Justin
(29:58):
Fields is a great athlete, now the Jets quarterback, he
leaves a lot to be desired with throwing throwing ability.
Tibo Tibo was a good athlete, you could not throw.
You got to be able to throw. That's where I
have questions about Jalen Milroe. Jalen Milroe is a dynamic athlete.
Throwing ability very inconsistent. Not a fan, So I'm not
(30:23):
anti mobility. You can move around, you can put a
lot of stress on a defense, but you have to
have throwing ability. And there are some quarterbacks that just don't.
And people act like Justin Fields is like how long
are people going to be waiting for Justin Fields to
actually be good? There are people still holding out hope.
It's like, bro, we're going into what like you're six
(30:43):
or something here, like by now, it's not happening.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
It's not happening. There's people have like a love affair
with quarterbacks talent, and I just have a love affair
with like looking at production, you know, yeah, those of
us is not produced. He's not on his four third team.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Like third team, fifth year.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, well it's going to be better now. I mean
everyone looks like Darnold. It's like, see, like that's the example. Yeah, yeah,
like that's a rare example. And to be fair, I
don't think something's gonna have that year in Seattle this year.
So all that.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Like, I don't either, So all that.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, great last one year in Minnesota, great job. I
don't see that continue in Seattle.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Now, you had so much talent around him in Minnesota.
He doesn't have the same talent and he's.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Just not correct.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
You downgraded from Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison to what
old Cooper Cup and MVS and a decent OFFENSEI I
like Jackson, yeah, I like uh, I like JSN, Jackson
Smith and Jigba is a good player, But I mean
Cooper Cup and MVS. Really we're expecting Minnesota numbers. That's
(31:57):
not happening. But behind a bad offense of line, no,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
It's like, hey, this offensive line is leaky and Sam
Darnold is really shaky against pressure. He's like, well, that's
not a good You just talked about pocket mobility. That's
not a good combination.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
At all, no terrible combination.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
How many times I was yelling at my TV the
playoff game against the Rams, I'm like, throw the ball,
throw it, just throw it away. If any of this
He's just like, oh, there's a big, angry man running
at me at full steam. I probably have maybe two
more seconds. Bam, No, actually I had half a second. Like,
what is he doing?
Speaker 2 (32:40):
He so much money in those two games?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
He really did.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
It wasn't great.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
That was not good at all. All right, He's Jeff Schwartz.
I'm Brian No. Coming up next. This story sounds like
it's made up, but oh no, it is real. We'll
share it with you next. It's two Pros and a
Cup of Joe. All i from the Tirack dot Com studios.
Right here on Fox Sports Radio.
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actually a couple of stories, uh more bang for your
buck here. These sound made up, they're real, Jeff. So
the first one, we go to tennis. We go to
(34:15):
the Ruaw Open, little French action over here. So there's
one tennis player. I don't know if you've heard about
this story, but what one Terry tennis player, Harriet Dart.
She's getting smacked around here. She ended up losing this
match six nothing, six'. Three, Okay so she's getting worked
(34:35):
and during a changeover in the second, set she was
talking about her opponent and said this to the chair. Umpire,
yeah she's can you tell her where? Deodorant over? Here
she smells really. Bad so what she said very. Rude
and since, then, Yeah Harriet dart has. Apology she, said, uh,
(35:02):
basically that's not, me that's not WHO i want to.
BE i was in the heat of the. MOMENT i regret, it, YadA.
YadA and the other tennis, player this Is Lois. Boissau
she posted on ig she had up fun with. This
this was the tennis player who was accused of. Stinking you.
Know so she posted her picture on ig and had
(35:24):
like a Little dove bottle in her, hand you, know
like a graph and she put she put apparently need
a collab and she tagged the Brand. Dove SO i
was just joking around as if she stinks that was,
fun you, know just poke funner yourself. Worked, WELL i.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Think that's what you should. Do trick a clab out of.
It that's.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Exactly, yeah that's how you handle it right. There but
how about that during a? Match, like, yeah she, stinks,
Man so what'd she?
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Expect what does she expect to? Happen like they're going
to go back and tell, her like to put on.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Deutterant, yeah, like well you know, what, hey we need
you to you, know at least put some spray. ON
i don't, know but it's. Alarming what's going? On what
are we? Doing this is? Sports people? Stink it goes?
Right how many stinky defensive. Linemen have you encountered in your.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Day all of? Them they'll stink? Them, no do it
of any of?
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Them is there anyone that comes to, mind anyone that
stink more than like a normal amount of.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Stink, NO i think we're JUST i mean the heated.
BATTLE i don't know IF i really was able to
smell any of. THEM i just assumed that they all
stink because they're just their. Defensivelignment that's. True that's it's
just maybe a poor assumption on my, Part. Brian for
the last like twelve, Minutes i've been looking at draft.
Odds by the, WAY i have written a Note i've
written them down a notebook for WHAT i want to
(36:49):
wager on after the.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Show how many wagers are you going to have after
the show.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
For the draft or just how? MANY I yea do
make so you know what's? Okay so The saints are
draft to tight end is sixteen to one at.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
BET, Mgm, wow wow we could.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
See that, happen, Right Tyler warren with With Jawan.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
JOHNSON i could see that.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Happen that even a cornerback is nine to one on D.
K if they don't draft a, quarterback they're taking those two.
POSITIONS i guess they could take wide receiver certainly and
you be screwed. There but even a wide receiver is
still eleven to.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
One it's funny to me that you just sent me
the offshore. Stuff, yeah the odds of where he's, going
it's funny, that like the best odds are him going
to The. Saints but, again some of Those saints beat,
reporters they're, like it's a total. Joke they're not drafting
(37:49):
a quarterback to be that strong with. It, Yeah i'm
not saying that's destined to, happen but like you would
leave yourself some wiggle, room would, you? Not? Right, like
and there are just a couple of what about.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
So under two and a half quarterbacks drafted is plus
about plus three hundred so three to one always Certain
Jackson Johnson dart's being drafted in the first.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Round we're not. Certain, no, absolutely we're not. Certain BUT
i don't love that bet if it got to three
and a, HALF i like.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
That obviously three and a half you have to, lay
like you have to lay one to win. Three it's
a problem and would be so.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Juice, yeah that's too. Heavy the other, WAY i don't
like it either. WAY i don't like it BECAUSE i
think there's a decent chance we get three in the first.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Round wish you had parlay some of, these which you,
CAN'T i don't, think because it just makes the. Juice
it makes lay in the juice a little bit like
it's what was hever select in the first round over
two and a half is minus two. Fifty we're getting
at least, three, RIGHT.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
I don't know you would. Think by the, way before
we get out of, Here, jeff we've left minimal time
For Justin, cooper our strong producer, here this story is
even more. Alarming sounds like it's completely made. Up have
you heard about? This apparently there is going to be
a sperm race In Los. Angeles, YEAH i mean this
(39:21):
Is coop gave me the details when we were off the.
Air they're going to have announcers. Replay it's live. Streamed
they have one HEALTHY usc, student one HEALTHY ucla. Student
this sounds like a sign of the, apocalypse does it?
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Not can we gamble on?
Speaker 1 (39:40):
It, YES i think you're more likely to Take ucla
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.