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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Uh, what is going on?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Hope you're enjoying your Monday morning, Jeff, Listen, we love basketball.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
We were sickos.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
We watched the WNBA a lot, We bet on the
WNBA a lot. Something caught my eye yesterday, So Angel Reese,
there's that line, pretty impressive. Sixteen points, seventeen rebounds, yea,
six assists. It wasn't a loss against the Minnesota Lenks.
But this is the third fifteen fifteen and five game
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this season for Angel Rees. That's the most in WNBA history.
And we're like, what not even twenty games into the season.
So I saw that, and I thought to myself, like,
I'm gonna try to be as fair as possible. Okay,
when you look at a player like Angel Reese or
athletes in general, regardless of the sport, you gotta ask yourself,
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am I grading on how the athlete looks, you know,
like stylistically or anything like that, or am I grading
on how great their impact is? And so if you're
grading Angel Reese on how she looks on the basketball court,
just her style of play, her game, She's not gonna
get high marks.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
It's like watching Angel Reese play basketball is like watching
a Bowl. Try to Salset dance, you know, how would
that It's like just clunky and weird and you don't
quite have the moves and it's not fluid or graceful,
like she just doesn't have a graceful game that.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Nope, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
You shouldn't be grading solely on that, right, I don't
think you should be grading mostly on that. I think
you should be grading mostly on what's the impact, regardless
of what it looks like, Like Jokich. Yokic doesn't have
this graceful game. It's pretty at times, but he's clunky.
He's not this fluid like sore through the air Michael
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Jordan like player. He's clunky at times, but he is
so impactful. And I think you could also look at
Angel and say, all right, she scored sixteen points, but
she took sixteen shots, she had seven turnovers. You could
always look at the downside beyond just a good side.
And I also think I'm trying to be fair here, Jeff.
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Something else to consider. Chicago Sky are five and twelve.
You know, so playing on a sucky team can greatly
help your individual numbers. That's not a hater statement. Look
at Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow's numbers last season were sick.
It's seventy point six completion percentage, nearly five thousand yards passing,
forty three touchdown passes, nine interceptions.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Hiss passer rating was one to eight point five.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Those numbers are insane, but his numbers are absolutely helped
because his defense was.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
A train wreck.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yeah, he had to throw a bunch yet.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Right, so I think that's fair with Angel. So, long
story short, all these things to consider, But are you
grading Angel more on how she looks as an athlete,
as a basketball player, or what her impact regardless of
what it looks ultimately is.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I'm just grading her on her first of all, just
her stats and how she plays. I mean, you can't
argue that she's not impactful to her team, right, I
mean you look at what they're doing, especially without Cardosa
being there, Like she needs to take more shots, she
needs to be more part of the game, and her
stats back that up. Now, the thing about winning and losing,
how much does it helping her team win and lose?
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I don't know. Her team's not very good. I'm not
sure it's her fault, but I just don't know if
a team can win when your best player taking the
most shots, shoots forty percent and most of the shots
are within five feet of the basket. Like that, to me,
is feels an unastainable way to win. But you can't
doubt that she is supremely gifted. She's an outstanding reabout
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her effort, her hustle, like those are things you can't measure.
I guess you can in the rebounds, right, I mean,
but you're right. Her style of play is not esthetically pleasing,
but so you know, there's been plenty of players of
the NBA that we praised over the years that aren't
esthetically pleasing. But just get the job done. She gets
the job done again, so I greater on that, right
does she? Yes, she gets a job, but she's an
all star. She deserves the credit for her statistical performances.
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The last four or five games mostly coincided with with
Cardoso going to Europe to play, and she's done a
great job. But is her impact helping them win? I
don't know. The team is so bad, Brian, It's it's
hard to I mean, they had any sort of other score.
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I think the team is better. And then we don't
talk about this in the way that we do. With
her team not winning and losing, her plus minus this
year is not great, but that's also because her team
is not very good. Turnovers weren't great last night. It's interesting, right,
if Caitlin Clark has six turnovers, it like leads. Everyone's
everyonet's talk about her six turnovers. Six turnovers, I mean,
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Reese has had ten turnovers last to the last two games,
as she's not even a point guard, but we don't.
That doesn't lead. So I think there's many things to
praise angel Ree for. Again. Her effort, her energy or
intensity all very admirable. I as someone who was a
sort of big, slow couldn't move, My thing was like
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defense and rebounding. That's all. I wasn't gonna score a
bunch that was gonna be very explosive. So I appreciate
her effort in doing all those things, but it doesn't
lead to the team winning. I don't know if it's
that's on her completely, Bride, because the team is just
not very good in general. What do you I mean
you want to skyplay a bunch. The team's just bad.
I'm not sure it's anyone's fault. I'm not sure that
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you can say Angel Reese is shooting too much. I
do think again, when you're when you lead the team
in field goals like last night and you shoot forty percent,
probably not a way to win long term. But that's
again this one game was last.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, I just think that it's an interesting thought and
you could apply it to a lot of different athletes
where just the way their game looks like it matters.
Maybe it matters a little bit too much, but I
think that if you look at Angel play, it's kind
of like it's just the style.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
It's not very explosive. Now, the league itself is not
explosive for the most part, but that's why you have
to when you watch WNBA, it's a far different sport
than any of.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Their basketball, there's no doubt.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
But that's the thing is if you put other athletes
into this equation, right, think about the NBA. When Steph
Curry misses a shot, it's almost kind of soothing. You know,
his form is perfect. You're like, man, it looked like
it was going in when Lonzo Ball and that goofy,
Like remember when he was in college especially, you had
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that goofy weird four or campaign Cameron Payne was with
the Niggs, like his goofy left. He's like, yeah, he's
facing east. His whole body is pointed east as he's
shooting north, you know, and when he misses, You're like,
oh my gosh, that's the ugliest thing I've ever seen,
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you know, Like the style matters, and I start thinking, like,
I'm not trying to make this a MJ.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Lebron thing. We've been down that road enough.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
But the one thing that's never talked about, you know, Jeff,
is just how their games look like, just just simply
how their games looked. We always make it six rings,
four rings, this that bad.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
But Jordan was just such a fluid, graceful athlete.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
And I'm not saying that Lebron doesn't have grace or style,
but he's just like a freight train, you know what
I mean. Like it looks different. It's just a different
deal stylistically. It's like we just had the Fourth of July.
There are some fireworks where you're like ooh ah. You know,
it's the same way with athletes and their styles, where
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if you're going ooh and I chances are you're probably
saying some glowing things about them that you're not saying
about someone whose game doesn't make you go.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Ooh and a.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Yeah, that's certainly Lebron is afraid. But buddy, this is
not ten mid ten years. I got to watch. I
got to go to a Miami Heat preseason game. They
played in Kansas City and I was playing for the Chiefs.
I had to sit. We all the entire basic Chiefs
team got court side seats. That's kind of funny. It
was by seniority, so like I was new there. I
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was like under the basket court side, but there were
a couple of seats right at mid court that weren't taken.
So I was like, all right, I'm gonna sit over there.
So I sat there for the first half of the game.
I got to see Lebron up close in person, and
I was in awe of just his physical nature, like
his presence. He is a big human to be that
good to move that well, Jordan's not Jordan for Nbas.
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Jordan's not big, right, And so yeah, the games are different,
they feel different, They're gonna look different. And for Reese, again,
it looks clunky. It looks like there was a shot
she made last night. I was, I was she was
kind of rebound. There are like three three women on
her and she like threw it up team looking at
the backboard and went in. I was like, I was
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like that, wow, okay, all right, like great shot in
all that went in. It's just that's what you get
from from you watch ree So it's not a pretty game.
But look, as much as people might not want to
like Angel Reese and she says things sometimes. I showed
the other day that I know teams game plan for
me and they've told me, oh stop, okay, I mean sure,
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I guess I don't. They don't play you like that
your single teams all the time, you know, I mean
like they don't like we can.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Clearly want to get on you to like box you out.
But yeah, not like let's we got to stop her.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Of course, they say, like, let's let's make sure Inuri
doesn't get a rebound ye rebounding. You can't deny the
production though, right sure, sixteen sixteen six last sixteen seventeen,
whatever it was last night, you cannot deny the production.
I said. Our text mentioned me that the Russell Westbrook
cop right where like just it is I think always
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going to go and put up numbers right, and the
first month of the year when she was a little
bit down, and she's always going to be a stack compiler.
Just tons of numbers, tons of stats. The question becomes
does the winning come with it? Right? And I think
it's too early because their team is so bad to
blame any of this on Angel Reese. But the dynamic
we talked earlier about, like Kayln Clark. You know, they
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lose a couple of games. It's Clark's fault. You know,
it hits in the different teams. I get it, different
teams in situations, but you know, someone we seem to
ignore that. The Sky are just really really bad. Yeah, yeah,
they're gonna I had their season went total under Brian,
I should have put more money on it. Unfortunately, you
can't just like go back and hey, I'm gonna put
another five on it, please, ods like please, nineteen and
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a half please? Nineteen and a half was their win total?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Oh man, yeah no, I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
That's not that far below five hundred. They're going to
be way below five hundred.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Yeah. So again, ael Race is really good. Her energy effort,
it just looks weird. It's it's not graceful. Uh and again,
I'm just curiously as her career goes on, you know,
can you play that style for a long time? Right?
And then you know, is it going to lead to
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the team winning? And it hasn't won so far, didn't
win last year, it's not going to win this year.
Not always her fault. The team is not very good
around her. Can you get free agents come to that
to come to Chicago and play with her? You know?
All those things I think are I'm curious to see
is as the years go on.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
I think good.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I think the wow factor is interesting right when where
you're just talking about this athlete or that athlete, who's better,
Like who's your your favorite, like all that type of stuff.
I think it factors in more than it should or
more than you even think it does, right Because like
we do a show with Bill Krackenberger for those you know,
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don't listen on Sunday Morning, Shame Hunter.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
You check it out.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
But he's a professional sports handicapper and he had a
question that we didn't get to yesterday morning where he
was like, is Novak Djokovic the best the greatest tennis
player ever? And my initial thought was yeah, probably, Like
that's probably and I started thinking about that, and I'm like,
if he had a little bit more style, you know,
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like Nadal was just he had the power game and
it was like wow. And you had Federer who was
just so precise. He had the precision game and it
was beautiful and he had style while doing it. Djokovic
is like a robot out there and he's like a
cyborg who I give him reddit, but he is just
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you know, serve, volley, serve, you know, like backhand.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
That's how he That's how his game is.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, he just doesn't have a lot of style or
a lot of flair. And if he did, and the
same question is like his joker the greatest tennis player
of all time? Like, absolutely, Kimmy's got the most Grand Slams,
he got the most majors. What are we talking about here?
Absolutely he is. But that style, man, that wow factor
absolutely factors in. I have to check myself sometimes. So
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it's like, I shouldn't be grating athletes are doing any
of this based on that, And there are times that
I do and I shouldn't.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
He had a great little game play the other day
and back and forth with a fall tennis really at all,
So I can't set good set to good gay a
good set point. I love by the way that Crackson's
over topics to you, yeah every week because I just
would have guessed that and I don't, but mostly because
we talk all week and I figure, like the stuff
text about is gonna make the show, which it does,
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so I don't. I don't put like I love the
idea that cracked just like because he's not like a
a sports fan is the wrong way to put it.
Like he's he doesn't watch a ton of sports things.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
He doesn't watch sports for enjoyment.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Yeah, which we talked about yesterday, like would you would
you watch the NFL wasn't for gambling? We were like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
I'm I watched all the NFL uh And he's like,
I wow. I'm like yeah, yeah, some of us are fans, buddy.
We like the gambling thing is is secondary. I'd love
that he send you see he sent you topics. Yeah,
(14:37):
Tennis is like a blind spot for me. I I
don't follow. I you know, I will learn sports for
work because like I paid attention a little bit to
soccer more because I worked. I worked for Fox Sports,
and soccer is a big part of what we you know,
our plans, right We World Cup and covered the Euros
in Copa America last year, and so I have like
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a general knowledge of like saw what's happening in soccer,
but not a ton I just don't ever cover tennis,
like I just yeah, it's and I I've said this before,
like my brain is about maxed out with sports. I
can't add any more to my life. And you know
because like even with you have kids, like my kids
are huge into swimming, thinking the swimming, so I sort
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of had to like learn about swimming now. Like I
just I'm tapped out, buddy. On sports and tennis, I
just can't get there. And mostly golf is one of
those two where like I follow the Major and that's
about it. Like I just can't. I can't bring myself
to follow weekly and everyone. I know a lot of
people love tennis, they love it. I just my brain
can't get there right now.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I love the majors man like.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
The Yeah, I'm also second of Wimbledon. I have no
idea that story I know is that one guy that
they canceled the they postponed the match till the next day.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was all upset about that, like, dude,
we get we have one more game is going to
take a minute.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Are you kidding me right now?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:58):
For sure?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
But that the French Open, which we're at Wimbledon now,
but the French Open beforehand, that Yanick Centner Carlos Alcarez
match was an all timer, Jeff, Like, it was insanity,
even just from a live betting standpoint, Like Alcarez is
down two sets, He's like he's down, like I forget
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forty love or love forty, I forget who was serving.
But he's facing triple match point in the third set
and rallies all the way back from that, wins the
next two sets, goes on to win the whole thing.
It was insane, man, that was an all time match, right,
I do love the Majors, dude. I had to sweat.
Went out in the Australian Open with my girl Madison Keys.
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I just all of a sudden I was betting on her,
and then I noticed I bet on her a little
more and a little more, and I'm like, holy, I'd
need Madison Keys to come back and win this thing
against ecospiatec or hoever you.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Say your name. She did she got it done. It
was beautiful.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
But man, I'll tell you what, from a betting perspective,
when you're gripping for like a tiebreaker in every single
point matters, it's a sweat.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
It's not called winning, it's called gambling. And I just
you know, every now and then, it's nice to just
win one easily.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
It never happened, man.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
And then of course the ones you don't wager on,
like the Cubs Cardinals over.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Last night, it's nothing in the third was pretty low.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
I want to I think that should take it. It's
never that easy. It's why it's not called winning. I
just can't wait for the NFL praceason to get here.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
It's crazy, all right, we'll coming up next.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
There's something that you maybe would think about wagering on.
But even with the betting thing to decide, it was
a pretty good performance by this guy who has taken
a lot of arrows since last season.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
We'll get to that. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian.
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about time, all right, Jeff. So you see this Bronnie James.
Bronnie James scored ten points in a Summer League game
yesterday against the Miami Heat and only ten minutes. How
about that one point per minute?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
It feels like he might be good enough to like
be a a backup, like no, an NBA. Like if
he wasn't Lebron's, like, kid, would would he be a
backup an NBA? He would be right, I don't know,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Maybe it's possible.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
The thing that never gets thrown into the Bronnie James
discussion is like the dude had a near death episode
in college at USC at cardiac arrest. You know, it's
kind of a big deal in your NBA development, you know,
and like this guy, he's a talented player. I know
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some people are just rolling their eyes just.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Like he wouldn't be in the NBA. You can't get
me on it. He wouldn't be in the NBA without.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Lebron probably probably at this stage, yes, but at any
stage you don't know that for sure. So you're acting
like this guy was in college for like three or
four years was a total dud. Had no like medical
hardship of any note, you know, that played any significant
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part in his basketball journey, like all those things. He
was what one year in college he had the cardiac arrest.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
That's a lot going.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
On, man, So to act like after one year of
summer league this is all it's ever gonna be.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I just don't agree with that.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
I think it's fair to say that, you know, he
he probably doesn't get the chance to be in the
NBA and without his dad based off of his his
play at at USC right, Like, that's that's I think
certainly fair to say that maybe he would have gone
a two way contract, a summer league contract, things like that,
and it's all fair to say that that's, you know,
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that's possible. But I think since he's been in the league,
I mean, he had I was looking run he had
seventeen points in a game, like that's not nothing. He
had nine points in another game, Like it's not it's
not nothing that he that he he scored. He started
slow in his career, played a couple of minutes here
and there, but it's sort of the last, you know,
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the last sort of month he got to play a
little bit more. He was got a little bit better,
and we saw the Summer League yesterday or was it
two days ago? How much he's gonna I think he's
going to be fine eventually. So I mean it's fair
to say two days one not an NBA without his dad.
But also I find it pretty cool if I was
in this situation, I don't think I'll be in the
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situation to play in the NFL with my son if
I Yeah, yeah, as I sit here with like with
a towel behind my back to stretch my back out
so it's not too tight sitting here as we do this,
I look, I think it's it's super cool that he
gets to choose to play with this kid. I love it.
I think it's it's great. He's not taking a roster
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spot from anybody, you know, like all these things like
you're just like whatever, man, He's just on the roster,
Like it's not a big deal. Lebron's good enough to
be able to demand essentially just to happen. It's not
hurting anyone. Again, no one else is on the no
one else who would normally be in the roster is
taking getting a roster spot taken up by Brownie. He's
not plain enough to really matter at all anyways. But
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then when he gets a little bit of time thirty
minutes here, thirty minutes there, we see a little bit
of improvement. Summer League, a little bit of improvement. And
I think that the more time he gets, the more
or it's being justified that he is in the NBA.
And I think that's kind of my point, is like
he's he's good enough with more time to show that
the talent is there. If you give him some more minutes,
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you can see a role frame in the NBA is
a backup. It was never going to be a starter,
but his role frame as a backup. And I'm glad
you mentioned the thing that here a cardiac evented us see,
like that's important. He didn't really play a stretchman season,
so we never even got to see it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Well, that's the thing is.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I think the disconnect here, I understand where there are
a lot of people that have an issue with it.
They don't like the nepotism thing, and it's like, Okay,
I get your criticism, I understand that. But the disconnect
and the divide is like where there's a FOURK in
a road you go that way, I go this other
way is you're acting like anyone who got an opportunity
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due to nepotism never panned out to be anything, You
know what I mean? Like that, there's a difference right there. Okay,
you're about the initial opportunity. Okay, I can't tell you
you're automatically wrong if that's how you feel. But if
you think that Bronnie will never be any good whatsoever,
just because he got that initial opportunity because of nepotism.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
I don't agree with that.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Like, think how many opportunities have come over the years,
whether it's an athlete in basketball or football, or like ownership.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Think about how many times like.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
A guy owns a team and then passes it on
to his kids who never would have gotten that opportunity
if not for that nepotism, and then turned out to
be really good at what they did as well. Like
that happens just because you get an opportunity that you
probably wouldn't have gotten if not for that relationship or
if not for that nepotism, That doesn't mean you're automatically
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doomed to failure and you're never going to be anything.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
So that's right.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I can understand people being a said about it. Okay,
I'm not, but if you are, I get it. But
to act like he's never going to amount to something
because he initially got that opportunity you thought he didn't deserve.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I just don't agree with that. There are many.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Examples of that being the case where they do pan
out and they are good at something they wouldn't have
gotten opportunity in happens a lot.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
It happens a lot. And look, I understand if you
know you are getting passed up for jobs because nepotism,
I get how that would make someone. I mean, I mean,
you know, in the sports media world, Brian, oh oh god,
I get passed up for not nepotism, just like what's
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the wright way to put it, like cloud nepotism, like
you play more years? Yeah yeah, right, Like happens all
the time. So I certainly get that feeling. I totally
get it. But then if someone gets that opportunity and
does really well, I have to just be like, yeah,
like they got the job, and maybe I would have
done as well, but they've earned that opportunity. Now that
they've gone in, they've earned that chance. I would imagine that,
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you know, you know, uh, what's uh, what's Iron Eagle's son.
Noah's really good. I'm sure people are really good.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
I can't believe he's getting a job over me.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Call it Olympic basketball. He's done a great job, will
be the NBC.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Yeah, sure, so there are there are chances. There are
times when they do end up ends up panning out
and look again for Browny. The the best case scenarios.
He is a career backup. You know, he he plays
six seven years. Maybe he's a two way deal, or
he goes overseas for a few years.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Like that's it.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
It's it's not no harm, no foul, Right, he's not
taking a rospot from anybody. And the guy who brought
you a championship and is the face of your team
in your league and Lebron gets to be happy to
play with this kid. Yeah, I mean it feels like
really harmless. Brian.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, No, I think people are are very worked up,
and it's them from Hey, I'm incredibly fond of Lebron,
and now we get nepotism and now we're off and running,
you know, and people are Yeah, the.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Lebron hate to me just seems so misguided. Sometimes I
just don't get it. He is, he has never gone
in trouble.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I know.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
I'm kind of like you where you know, I'll let
you finish. I don't mean to butt in, but I'm
with you on this where I don't understand why you can't.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Be more like a waffle as a sports fan.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
You know what I mean, where a waffle has these sections,
it's like everything blends together. It's my sister told me
about this book where it's like men are like waffles,
women are like spaghetti, you know where I don't know
if you have a a thing at your job, and
then it's this relationship with the family men, and everything's together,
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you know, everything blends together. Men can separate and compartmentalize
a lot. Sports fans sure can't. I don't know what
it is if if you dislike Lebron and in any
capacity about any opinion he shared, or whatever the reason is,
somehow they cannot separate that from Lebron James the basketball player,
Lebron James the athlete, it all blends together, and it's
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ridiculous you gotta separate stuff. I'll never I don't mean
to go on a rant.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Jeff.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
But I remember doing radio at the time when Michael
Vick was back in the NFL. This was after the
dog fighting thing, and I can't tell you how many
people would call in he shouldn't be considered for the
MVP he was. I'm like, that has fighting dogs, has
nothing to do with his MVP credentials.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Nothing. You got to get over it. It doesn't even apply.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But people are trying to shoehorn it in there, and
it's like you gotta separate stuff, and people cannot separate
stuff when it comes to Lebron, how they feel about
him and how unbelievable he's been throughout his career.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
But I don't even I understand what people would be
would be like anti Michael Vick. Okay, I don't know
what Lebron has done to where you would be anti
let Fair. It's like, I just don't know what he's done.
He eleven years ago he did an hour long special
with it raised three million dollars pretty for the Boys
and Girls Club. You know, I just I don't know
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what he what he did. He's a little corny with
Taco Tuesday sometimes. I don't know. He's in mid forties, Dad,
I mean I would imagine my kids probably feel I'm
a little corny sometimes too. I'm not forty quite yet, but.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
May he's definitely got an ego, he definitely.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
But who doesn't have an ego's He's the best player
for twenty years.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
It's been hard not to have an ego. That's fair.
But I'm just trying to I don't hate him for
these reasons.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Why I know, but it just seems so like I
get if you don't like ex player because they had
an off the court incident, right or he said he
Actually I think it's pretty remarkable that there's some superstars
like him that have just never had Like think about
all the attention he's had the spotlight since he was
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sixteen years old playing for who who he played for?
Was it not Okill Kills St? Mary's like he was
on Sports Illustrated like fifteen years old. No, I never
not one scandal. Scandal is his son plays with him
for the Lakers. I know.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
It's wild, right, Like, and think of some of the
scandals that we've had of in recent years, whether it's
Deshaun Watson, Justin Tucker, what have you could just you know,
rattle stuff off left and right.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Justin Tucker, by the way, so innocent that he he
accepted the right.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
You know, I won't fight this ten game suspension even
though I'm completely innocent.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
That that adds up. But yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
You could be uh bent over those things. That's something
to be upset about, Yeah, something to be angered about. Yeah,
but Lebron, I don't know, doing these goofy things begging
for more attention, which, yeah, you can roll your eyes.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
From time to time, but in in.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Comparison those other things, it's pretty ridiculous to really be
upset about that. But yeah, man, that's the way it goes.
It's weird, it's strange how that goes. But I think
that factors in too. Like put it this way, Who's
who's an athlete that is so well liked that if
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his son got an opportunity he otherwise wouldn't have gotten.
People wouldn't have been nearly as upset about Is there
someone like Steph Curry? I don't like Steph Curry's son
gets an opportunity. I don't think people would be nearly.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
As Caitlin Clark's daughter. I know they would.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
They would be irate about that.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
He's so angry. I don't know. I don't, I don't know.
I mean, it's just so unlikely to see because it's funny,
is I was too young for the Griffy thing. It
was anyone like when Kank Griffey obviously was a Hall
of Fame, which makes it, you know, if Brownie was better,
I think people would look at it a little differently
because a lot of times when father son duos have played,
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it's been they've both been really superstars, right, been really good,
and Bronnie just is not. And again he's a up
an NBA at best. I'm trying think of another player
that people would be this upset if they're if their
their their.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Kid as upset.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
I could come up with athletes like that, but the opposite,
like not upset. You know they're they're so popular, you're
really not upset that his kid got this opportunity. I
think Steph could be on the list. Steph is very
well liked, very positiveph.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Could be thinking of any like any like football players.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Like Mahome's kid. I don't know that.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
People would people would not like that that that feels
impossible to happen. Let me think of uh you before.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Aaron Rodgers kid, total free past.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
We don't even I'm just I'm looking forward to seeing
the wife.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
The wife has been you know, he he's just hiding
everything in his per We've.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Seen Otani's wife like we've seen her before, like she's
been to some events, and yes, she does a great
job of hiding her, which is uh, you know, I
I don't know how they do it. I mean, obviously
that's incredible that that you think about O Tawni's fame
and that we just really don't see his wife ever.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah, that's pretty wild, right, It's crazy like.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
That's it's incredible how they're able to. Again, it's a
great work life balance if you can achieve that, I mean,
that's fantastic. I know some athletes just you couldn't do that.
And O TWI can. You know, he was like plus
two fifty to one m v P this year, Like
the numbers seems so low. But I'm gonna cash that chick.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Very easily, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, it's I haven't heard the same venom with like
Giannis's brother, you know, with Fanasis in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
I haven't no one better.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Is better worse than Lebron than Browny.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
We need to have one on one, one on one competition.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
That's a great summer league. Would that be? Like they
both play in the summer league, they both have to do. Yeah, okay,
you're in Vegas, do you go to summer league?
Speaker 1 (33:58):
I'm going to. I absolutely you will go.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
We're gonna go watch on Cooper Flag and well.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
It depends right, like, uh, I'll go. I'd like to
see Cooper Flag and you know whatever, the like the
cheapest show in town is That's how I get down, Like, oh, no,
one wants to see the Miami Heat, Like, hey, let's
go see the Miami Heat.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
Huh, we can live bett or whatever.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
But where they play at.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I don't know, you know, I don't know which venue
they're at. I think they're at a couple I should
know this, but I I don't.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I don't know where they're at.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
They're not at T Mobile right there. They're at the
don't you know, at the casino, which is kind of crazy.
These casinos have like their own basketball arenas.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
It is, and a lot of them are really nice.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Like the bases typically play at Mandalay Bay is this
arena inside the casino.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
It's like, Wow, Holy cow.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
You can you have that much room to have a
whole arena in here, that's wild.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
I uh, I'm waiting for Cracker cent some some summer
league place. Yeah, I'm surprised he hasn't done anything. That's where.
Those are the events that Sharp's make a killing on.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Dude, tell you like last year, those Summer League games.
You can't to live bet it, Jeff. There are games
where it's like, Okay, this team is just gonna keep scoring.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
The other team can't stop them.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
There was ones, Oh my gosh, there was one Summer
League game where the the Warriors were playing like some
some decent players and the Lakers were playing the backup
to the backups, you know, and it was like they
are just going to get obliterated the whole game, and
you just keep hammering that. It's like anything, Warriors, just
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bet them.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
You want them to cover the spread, great, you want
to their team total over great, it's going Just bet
the Warriors. So you'll find those opportunities, man, they're golden.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Oh how do I find? How do I find some
release schedule? I don't even like nowhere even if I
have on any of these apps.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Is it it's I just they don't have like the
in schedule. It's gotta be something on NBA dot Com
or something here.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
There's two games today, the Thunder and Sixers are playing
career jazz.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, there might be some opportunity.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
I feel like Philly's gonna okay, so he's parting. So
there's no way the up for this game.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Well, you never know because it's all these other dudes.
By the way, they have They have Dalton connect playing
for the Lakers again.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
I know. Yeah, it's wild craziness. He needs the reps.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
All right, Uh, coming up next, Jeff, Again, ball is
on the brain.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I've got a question for you.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
So these NBA nug these NFL nuggets, I ran across
a handful of the I always read these NFL stories, articles, columns.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I'm all about it.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
So I'll come across these fun facts, these nuggets from
the previous season. Which of these three do you think
will make the biggest impact on the upcoming season? All right,
I'll throw a pop quick question at you. Right around
the corner. He is Jeff Schwartz, I'm Brian know. We're
in for two pros and a cup of Joe here
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on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Oh yeah, he's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian know We're in
for two Pros and a Cup of Joe right here
on Fox Sports Radio. You know the running joke I
have with Lorena Jeff based on Dua Lipa. I love
Dua Lipa, but me he has some fill in radio.
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You do too, Lorena. That's great and out of nowhere. Lorena,
She's like she is a very tall woman. Have I
told you this before? I apologize if I have, but
h I'm like, really, how tall?
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Five eight? She is? Five foot eight? That do a
leap over there?
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Up is fantastic. I would absolutely go see her in concert.
I would do My kids joke all the time that
I mentioned poor Brian does not like this that I
love her music. Her new music sounds exactly the same.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
That's obnoxious.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
My kids have made had made this point a couple times.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
They're wrong. Your kids new music.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Not the old not that not her first album. But
it does sound alike.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I do.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I'll try to figure this out for tomorrow. We'll be
in tomorrow filling in for two pros. Looking forward to that,
but I gotta do a little bit of homework. There's
a song from Dua Lipa that's completely ripped off from
somebody else.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
I know it's never happened in musical history, but.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
There's a lot of them that sound like that. But
that's the way music is still, right.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I gotta do a little bit of digging because it
was some portion of the chorus and there was another
song related to this whole investigation, and I'll try to
get the story correct for you. But whoever was accused
of ripping it off, it was clearly ripped off. It
might have Ed Sheeran, if I'm remembering right. And like
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Ed's defense or whoever it was, they were just like, no,
I never heard the original, and they're like, all right,
I guess he's cleared that was it.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
He just think I remember that.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Oh it's amazing.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
How tall is she said?
Speaker 1 (39:17):
My foot? A very tall woman?
Speaker 4 (39:20):
Yeah? Yeah, I mean yeah again, and heels six feet. No,
there'd it'd be some tall heels five to eleven and heels.
Her performance in England for that opera, the orchestra, I
should say it was very it was very good.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
I thought you're going to say, like the soccer crowd
singing her, well that too.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
But she did one with like the Royal London Orchestra,
didn't she Isn't that like a thing that she did
like a couple months ago looked pretty awesome?
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Probably?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
All right here, let me throw an NFL question at
you before I get on out of here. So I
read all these NFL stories as you do too, articles, columns.
Just throw NFL on top of it.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
I'll read it.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
And so I'll run across these nuggets from the last season,
and I'm like, all right, which of these nuggets from
the twenty twenty four season do you think will make
the most impact on the upcoming season? Okay, so these
are all facts. The Patriots they lost six one score
games last season. Okay, let's keep that in your back pocket.
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The Carolina Panthers, their defense plummeted ten spots to number
thirty two, dead last and epa per play in twenty
twenty four. And then also the fun fact Micah Parsons
of the Cowboys he has fifty two and a half
sacks over his first four seasons. Which of those twenty
four stats do you think will make the biggest impact
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in twenty Say the second one again, Panthers, they plummeted
to dead last.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
In those will be much better on defense.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Okay, we'll pick this right back up tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
How about that