January 1, 2026 • 41 mins
In Hour 3 of the show, Brian and Geoff discuss Alabama taking on Indiana in the Rose Bowl where it may actually rain in the usual sunny southern California. Plus, the guys wonder who benefits most from winning it all in the NFL and more!
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Oh what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Happy Thursday, Happy New Year, Happy twenty twenty six. As
we ring in the new year with some ball. Is
there a better way than that? I don't think there is.
We got a triple header college football playoff action today.
We have dissected Jeff's Ducks taking on Texas Tech. Jeff
(00:27):
to you know, to recap it here, Jeff thinks that, hey,
if Oregon takes care of the football, they're winning this game.
Texas Tech they make their hay on short fields, right, Jeff, Right,
they do buddy football, make them go the long way,
and that's going to be to the Ducks advantage. Texas Tech,
like a lot of Oregon opponents, if they get in
the thirties, they got a real shot here. And he's
(00:49):
not saying it they have to get there to have
a shot. He's just saying they've got a much better
shot because Oregon's record starts to go south when they
allow thirty plus points, so.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
That seven otherwise they are forty to ozho when they
allow less than thirty points.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
By the way, did you see the graphic.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
They showed it for a millisecond last night, but Ryan
Day heading into the fourth quarter while trailing. Since twenty
nineteen one in seven, you can make that one in
eight now. So not a whole lot of comeback from
behind success at interesting Ohio State. Yeah, and some of
them think about that, some of those games, like you're
(01:28):
the much more talented team against a much lesser talented
Michigan team. A lot of those years in that losing streak,
you're not coming back against them time and time again.
So one thing to keep in mind. How about how
about we look at the Rose Bowl. How about Alabama
against Indiana. We got IU seven point favorites, the total
(01:50):
is forty eight and a half.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
We got rain, We got rain going.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I've been raining steady drizzle over there in Pasadena. And
what do you think about that that? I know, it's
like the super Bowl. Never rains during the Super Bowl,
and then you know, Prince is playing in the purple
rain like when it's the Bears and Colts, so every
now and then it does. So, uh, they said there
might be a little pocket of no rain for this
(02:17):
Rose Bowl game, which would make sense. It's raining cats
and dogs until the game kicks off, and then for
a portion of it it's it's dry, but I think
that's a major deal in this game, Jeff, like Alabama
sucky running game. If this is more of a you know,
a rock em sock em, we got to run the
ball to be effective. Like that is disadvantage Alabama all
(02:38):
day Alabama.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I can't I'm saying this is worse in the end.
In the trenches.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Absolutely, they they they're they camera.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
The football, which obviously you know doesn't help with the
efficiency wise a plupper Hereabama is eighty fourth and rushing
success rates. How about this yards per successful rush, yards
per rush, no sacks, So including the sacks, where are
they ranking the.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Country excluding sacks?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, yeah, obviously because sacks are included in the rushing total.
So if you remove that, just talking yards per rush
no sacks.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Oh, yards per rush no sacks, they're low man, Like
I would guess man somewhere in the nineties, maybe something
like that, oh my gosh, like.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
One hundred thirty six teams in individual and football. And
then on the flip side, they don't rush the passer Brian.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
They have a non existent pass rush.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
One hundred and nineteenth the country and pressure rate and
PFF ranks their pass rush one hundred and thirty first
of the country. So that benefits of well, we sacked
the quarterback a lot. Yeah, yes, and no, like you
had five sets in Oklahoma. The the three previous SEC
games you played, you had four sacks totals. So like
depends on the game who you're playing. Indiana is a
(04:00):
team that dude, they're a boa constrictor. Right, the more
that you breathe heavily, the more that you fight, the
more like they just constrict you. Like just like that, right,
I like that. They just they play such a discipline
brand of football. Don't make mistakes. Discipline. They don't do
(04:21):
a ton of stuff on offense. It's not it's not
a complex offense. I think this we get to Mendoza
as far as like a draft grade, we're gonna realize,
like the bowl over the middle of the field. Ever, like,
that's not what they do. There are a lot of
outside shots, comebacks, fades, goes, RPO, slants, r PO, you know,
you know, hooks over the middle, right, crow up over
the middle, spot routes, some play action pass deep, but
(04:44):
like not a lot of intermediate stuff that are as
part of their offense. They run inside zone a ton
primarily off R P O and then defensively. It is
a very complex defense. It is a sim pressure defense,
which for those who are.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
So pressure, I love simulated pressure. So break it down.
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
So, essentially you have four pass rushers correct on a
given play, you might have five if you're in base defense.
And what similar pressures mean is that you're essentially gonna
rush four or five while making.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It look like you're gonna rush seven right.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
And so you might rush like four from the left
side and drop everyone on the right side back into coverage.
You might rush two up the middle, two off the edge,
and then drop two guys out that are lined up
over the guards like those guys drop me out. Could
be defensive linemen, could be linebackers, could be safeties. Like
you're just so, you're simulating pressure and you're trying to
(05:42):
end up in this it worked well against Oregon. You're
trying to end up with as an offensive line former
offense line and I am the goal for us as
offensive lineman is to block us five block to five
most dangerous right. And what simular pressures do is they
try to have the offensive lineman block three of the
four and the fourth is left for running back, a
tight end, the.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Quarterback, create a mismatch correct and that's what.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
It's trying to do. And they did that really well
against against organ in the first game, and so that's
what they're trying to do. They're trying to get bring
four guys, have three on the offensive line and one
on a running back or a tight end or on
the quarterback. Sometimes I love bringing this up because people
I think don't understand this. There are times when when
there are free runners right at the quarterback. Guys are
not blocked. That are the responsibility of the quarterback. They're
(06:27):
not responsibility for us. Yeah, they're not responsibility of the
running back of the tight end. They are free and
the adjustment is obviously you have a site route like
something to to, but it's on the quarterback. And so
that is how Indiana plays defense. And against Alabama offensive line,
I'm even really going to confuse them, really really, you'll
confuse him a lot. My concern about this game is
(06:50):
the bye is the buy situation? Because Signetti mentioned it.
I love he's so honest. He's just like as honest
as they come. He said, we have not practiced very
well and that concerns me. Now, Kirby Smart. We've heard
from Kirby and he's been like, you know, MF and
his team practice. It sort of feels like a thing
that's happening right now. But I think he just wants
(07:11):
them to be ready for this game. It's a Rose Bowl, man,
They're gonna be ready to play this game. I like
Indiana cover this game. I have not made a wager
any of these numbers yet I have, so what waitning
four is this? Yesterday we saw a ton of money
come in on Miami before kickoff. I'm waiting for the
six to pop up for Indiana today. I think I
think we'll get a six. I'm waiting for that because
(07:33):
people a gonna wake up and be like, Bama's a sama. Yeah,
I think we'll get a six. If we get six today,
I'll take Indiana.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
And uh, you know that's the thing too, man, is
there's a lot of brand recognition here. And if you
put this same Alabama team, same you know, same strengths,
same weaknesses, you put them in different colored uniforms and
call them Vanderbilt, they're twelve point dogs in this game.
They are twelve point underdogs. I think the brand of
(08:04):
Bama is making a big impact betting wise, because look,
they don't run the ball, they have no pass rush.
The other thing is Indiana. They blitz at a forty
eight percent clip, that's thirteenth in the country. They send
a lot of pressure, and ty Simpson has shown a
Jared Goff like inability to handle a legitimate pass rush.
(08:27):
He's looked skittish at times, He's been inaccurate at times.
He had no answers against Georgia in the SEC Championship game.
And so there are multiple things going directly against Alabama
in this matchup.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Might be a little.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Soggy, might be a little drizzly, right, that could impact
the passing game as well. So I'm all over Indiana
in this game. I have not bought into Alabama all
season long. I think their deficiencies come back to bite
them in a big way. And give them credit, they
found a way to win eleven games, somehow, some way.
They've got it done, and they do bring some strength
(09:01):
to the table, but their formula for success is unsustainable.
They cannot keep winning these games with no pass rush,
no running game, and beat quality opponents in the playoff
one after another.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
No, it's not. And you know you mentioned that the
pressure rate for Indiana, but it's not they're not bringing
five or six guys like that's that's what makes it
so like they're bringing four but then dropping seven to cover.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
The camouflying it right, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Really hard to figure out what you know where they're at. So,
but you think about Indiana too. That's so unique is
that we have this, uh the blue chip ratio right
where essentially the last like twenty champions have had this
amount of blue chip guys in the ross are four
and five star players. Indiana would would break the mold
of that. Now. Part of that is the portal has
changed the way we evaluate players. But in most games
(09:56):
you would look at and be like, well, Alabama's the
more talented team, and in college football that does matter
a lot, right, the more talented team tends to win
more often the team that just sort of like the
plucky underdog. But Indiana, and with the way they've played,
if if I wins today, it wouldn't shock me right
now they have better players overall on their team.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I mean I'd be surprised that you can't be shocked
like that's come on, yeah, it.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Would surprise you. But if you get if you look
at the rosters and yeah, sure, like that makes sense.
But that's what Indiana's secret power is. It's like they're
the way they play football. It's such a clean brand
of football, mistake free football. Well for not to mention
this too about Oregon, Texas Tech or Texas Tech is
like one hundred and twenty of the country and penalty
yards averaged over two penalties a game on offensive line.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
By the way, they're hoping that the officiating crew from
last night is wow.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Well so because Oregon, so Oregon is like Organ's secondary
is very physical and depends on the officiating crew.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
You get if the officials class that were like penalties,
you're gonna have to mug a guy for us to
even think about throwing a flag.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And Texas Tech arounds a ton of go routes and
we're gonna get like three passing for instances today. I'm
just telling you. But nonetheless, I'm with you. In Indiana.
Alabama's team total, I'm gonna guess.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
It's twenty and a half right around there.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It is, Yeah, yeah, nineteen and a half.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Now you get tick down.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
You guys shop around. Obviously I would be tempted to
do that. I really would. Now, Yeah, is Indianna have
the by the bye thing? Is that going to be?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, that's something you got to think about.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
But here's here's the thing to me, Jeff, is there
are two things that I think makes life even more
difficult for Alabama. I think that it's what you just mentioned.
Like Alabama, they're gonna have this in their mind, like,
hey man, we got to start off strongly, like these
teams that have had buys.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
This is a thing, right.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Like we're talking about all these teams struggling in their
first game after a bye, and so like Indiana is
going to make it a point to start off strongly.
And the other thing they're gonna do if somehow, someway
they have a lead. Let's say Alabama, Indiana is leading
by I don't know, ten, thirteen, fourteen points in the
(12:14):
second half. They know off of the last game like
Oklahoma is crushing them seventeen to nothing. Alabama comes all
the way back wins the game. So Indiana is going
to be well aware that it's not over until it's over.
And I think that makes a comeback effort a lot
more difficult for Alabama too, So it's like everything is
(12:35):
pointing to Indiana in this matchup.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
In my mind, I agree, man, I I like you too.
But here's the thing too, is that you know everyone
did the parlay right the money, Yeah, let's go 's.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Go money line Indiana and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I already have Indiana Georgia in a parlay together, not
Ohio State. So that loss out of the way. So
don't feel like today will be more chalky in the
in the later games, at least in my opinion, to
be more chalking later.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I think so too. I think so I will have.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
A way from Indiana and on Georgia. I just stidn't
see where the numbers end up going.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, little money on ole miss a little bit. It's
ticked down to Georgia minus six right now. Maybe the
first round thing is I don't know if that's what
your angle is for the money to go in old
missus favor. I'll tell you two betting things that caught
my eye. Jeff, you'll like this as far as the
props go. One man, it's the season that Ryan Williams
(13:30):
has had, who was a brilliant freshman receiver with Alabama
not so much of a stud sophomore. Here his receiving
prop yardage like is at thirty and a half and
he is fifth in the pecking order of receiving yardage
of Alabama wide receivers or tight ends.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
He's the fifth guy.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Man Like he was steadily like at least second behind
Jeremy Bernard.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
He's fifth right now.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
That guy has completely disappeared out of the offense. It's
like he's not even threatening defenses right now. And he
was such a stud freshman. It's amazing to see where
he's fallen in his second year at Alabama.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I never would have thought that's that would have happened,
But here we are.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
He feels like a portal guy, which is kind of
crazy to say, Wow, right, like why would he stay there?
But I mean, sometimes you just you know, you're you
fall out of favor. You know, sometimes you as a
young player, you might take it for granted a little bit,
and and maybe you don't you'll put in the work
and whatnot, and and you don't you know, give it, like,
you know, the the best effort in the offiction because
(14:37):
you're hearing your accolades and whatnot. And uh, I think
that that that might be part of it with with him,
Like I just speculating. I don't only know, but that's
certainly something that that I could see being a reason why,
you know, he just isn't maybe as you know, as
(14:58):
you know, as uh that's good this year. I don't know,
but it does feel like it's just an oddity, like
you just wouldn't expect this to come after last year.
To remember all we had to trazy. We heard it,
yeah a thousand times last year, Like he's seventeen years old. Everybody,
he's seventeen, remember that, just non just seventeen years old,
and uh, yeah, he's seventeen, but you know he's obviously
(15:19):
it doesn't matter now he's not playing.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
No, he made some brilliant plays last season, and it's
gone south for him this year. He's had a lot
of drops, like a lack of targets. Sometimes he's made
no catches down the stretch here.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
It's wild.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
But the other thing that caught my eye real fast
is Fernando Mendoza. His passing yards prop has ticked down
quite a bit. It was at two thirty three and
a half.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Earlier in the week.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
It's at two twenty and a half right now. Now
the interesting thing is Ty Simpson's number hasn't ticked down
at all, And you could look for the reasons why,
and there are like Indiana can run the ball way
better than Alabama can. So maybe Indiana with little soggy conditions,
maybe they rely on the running game a little bit more,
maybe game script. Maybe Indiana has a lead and they're
(16:03):
running it a little bit more later on, not looking
to pass it so that all can factor in. But
it's just interesting to me if this is any way
connected to the weather. Mendozas went down by thirteen yards.
Ty Simpsons didn't budge one yard, So that caught my eye.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I thought that was kind of interesting right there.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, maybe maybe maybe the weather makes makes a role
in that. Again if it I you know, the weather thing,
we'll just we don't. It's just on Sundays. But we
should talk about today. Yeah, you shouldn't change your wager
unless it's really windy. Wind is the biggest problem. It's
not rain. It's not snow now at the Rose Bowl.
(16:43):
It's a footing gonna be great in the rain. That's
fair to wonder. I mean it's it's not you know
often like you know, it's it's not built to like,
you know, to have to have a lot of rain
in that stadium. But if it's not windy, it doesn't matter.
Like it's not going to change very much.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, no, no, not no doubt. And that's the Yeah,
that's I'm glad that you put that. You put that
out there where you know it's not gonna be u
you know, in Buffalo like a sideways wind, you know,
like we got it's going thirty mile per hour gusts
and all that. It's not gonna be like that at
the Rose Bowl. It might be soggy, but yeah, you
can throw it in the rain. There's no wind, Like
(17:20):
you should be okay with that, so absolutely, Hey, Makita
tools at the Home Depot are built with precision, without shortcuts.
Designed for the toughest jobs. It's the choice for pros
when the job calls for the best call on. Makita
built to be the best available at the home depot.
How pros get more done? All right, come it up next.
(17:41):
Who would benefit the most from winning it all? They
all would benefit from but who would benefit the absolute most?
Jeff Schwartz and I compare notes. Right around the corner.
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian nowhere in for two pros
and a cup of Joe right here on Fox Sports Radio,
Quick time out Holiday upgrade.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Check.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
If your TV struggles in the red zone, Oh it's time.
Tcl's QD Mini led is the difference. Outrageous brightness, deep contrast,
accurate color and silky motion. So every route, replay and
highlight looks epic. You gotta have the silky motion or
you're just wasting your time. Movies feel cinematic. Games they
(18:25):
play smoother and yes, your crew will notice. Here's the
kicker with holiday savings off select tcltvs Go Premium with
the QM eight.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
K four K get fit. We're talking eight K.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Baby, brilliant picture, huge sound, the ultimate choice. Or grab
the versatile QM six K for an elevated game day experience.
Lock in epic experiences, epic savings, and undeniable bragging rights
all season long while supplies last. TCL is the official
TV partner of the NFL. Find TCL at all major retailers.
(19:06):
TCL Bigger, Brighter, better holidays, Select models, Limited time se
site for details, Fox.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.
Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio dot com
and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.
Polly Foods Go ahead with Tony Foodsco. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
As everybody knows, we're the hosts of the award winning
Polly and Toni Foodsco Show. Yeah, but instead of us
telling you how great we are, here's how Dan Patrick
described us when he came on our show.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Quick, knowledgeable and funny, opinionated.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
What do you doing?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Were interrupting our promo? Yeah, you wasn't talking about you.
You took those clips totally of context.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Oh yeah, well after this promo, I'm gonna take you
out and beat you.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Let me put this into context.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Shut up.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Yeah, anyway, just listen to the Paully and Toni Fousco
Show on iHeartRadio Apple podcast.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
That's wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yea, it is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm
Brian though. We're in for two pros and a cup
of Joe Cold Knights. Call for better sleep shop Mattress
Firms once a year sale and clearance and save up
to five hundred dollars on select temper Pedic mattresses with
(20:25):
next day delivery Restrictions apply. Next day delivery available on
select mattresses and subject to location.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
C store for details. All Right, Jeff, I thought we
could compare notes a little bit.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
So the other day I was filling in for Ben
Mallor and I busted out my list of the top
five quarterbacks that would benefit Though. We love lists, especially
on the Ben Maler Show. Ben it loves him something,
he loves good. He's a sucker for a good list man.
But the top five players that would benefit the most,
(20:58):
Top five quarterbacks that would benefit the most from winning a.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Super Bowl this season.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Now we know every quarterback in the playoffs would benefit
some in varying ways, right, So I thought, like I
had my list, I could do it cliff notes version,
just in case someone was listening to the Mallord Show.
You don't want to hear the same radio stuff all
over again. But I was curious, Yeah, what your list
looked like? You know, like, what do you have, like
(21:22):
in the top three, at least the top three quarterbacks
that would benefit the most from winning a ring this season.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I mean number one is Josh Allen I have the
same thing.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah, that feels like you have no mahomes in your way. Yeah, no,
Joe Burrow on your way.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
They have not had a problem with Baltimore in the posts.
I'm not even really played Baltimore the posts. Everyone's you know,
I think that.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Was they have that Lamar threw a pick six that
no one remembers he was the COVID season, No one
was in the stands. Yeah, it's like thirteen to six
lost the game, no one remembers.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Number two would be Lamar Jackson, Okay, on that list.
You know, I think that winning a championship would and
any discussion anyone ever has about Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
No doubt that's that's true.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I talked earlier about you know, I just I just
don't love the offense being so centered around his ability
to run, yeah, not his ability to pass. Well, that
would change if they win a championship. Was who you know,
what what am I to say? Like, I mean, you know, like, okay,
number three would be brought.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Pretty Yeah, well, I was close to you.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I had purty second, because look, man, for people like
me who say he's.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Good, he's not great.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
He's not elite he's not a difference maker like all
those people who have to shut up and take the
l if he wins at all, Like and that's part
of his brand. He's known as the last pick of
the draft.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
He's known.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
They'll say it on a telecast today, like, well he
still is mister irrelevant, even though he's playing really good football.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Look, yeah he's been.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
It's he's been a polarizing guy even though he's like
a not a polarizing person at all. Like he's lunch pale,
I'm wearing my Dockers, I'm doing my job. Like he's
not this lightning rod of controversy. It's just his game.
I don't know what it is like being the last pick.
Some people doubting him, like his protectors like protecting the
(23:12):
sanctity of Brockberdy and that you got this back and
forth oil and water mixture. But like he would go
from the last pick of the draft to a Super
Bowl champion, especially for that franchise, it would be mammoth
for him, There's no doubt, and that back and forth
stuff would just cease.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
You're right about that.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I didn't put Lamar on my list because and you're right,
it would it would do a world of good for him.
I just don't think the Ravens have a shot this season.
That's the only thing I can't logically right, And I
know you're not saying that. I just can't logically like
walk down the road of Hey, maybe the Ravens win
it all. They have no chance to win it all
this season.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I'm looking at the rest of the of the of
the list of playoff teams, and I think, I honestly
think on my list ends it those three quarterbacks and
really else, Yeah, anyone else winning. There's no pressure any
else to win.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Look, yeah, pressure is a different thing. Benefit of winning.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
What would it benefit Justin Herbert to win a Championship's
not gonna win a championship? Would absolutely benefit It would
have benefit Bo Knicks and Trevor.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Lawrence, I benefit everybody, but I would I would have
third on my list, Jeff.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Sam, I have Donald. I got Donald on my list.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
So I I think it's yeah, so Alan Party, Lamar Darnald,
Let those four feel like right, you could say, Jordan Love,
but the Patris are winning a championship, so massofs already
won a championship. Caleb's not winning their two. They're two,
they're too young, not ready for that yet. Hurts has
already won, you know, Like I mean Rogers wins one more,
(24:37):
maybe he's looked at differently, but like that's huge.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
You got a couple of legacy quarterbacks, like you just
mentioned Rogers Stafford. If you're if Stafford is able to
win his second one, we're talking legacy type stuff. Rogers
winning a second one like two with two different franchises,
that's the way he rides off into the sunset. That
would be enormous, right, be big for every one of
these guys. So U yeah, man, but that would be
(25:01):
my top three, like without my brain like wrapped around. Hey, hey,
Lamar could win it all, I would go Josh Allen
Purty Donold.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
No, he's not going to. Is matstaff for a Hall
of Famer without another championship?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
He should be. He should absolutely be a Hall of Famer.
That that shouldn't even be a question. Like he's put
up Like the thing is, he's put up numbers the
whole time. He put up numbers in Detroit when that
was not a talented roster. Now granted he had Megatron
for a big stretch there, but he had no defense.
(25:36):
He had no special teams, and he's getting knocked for
not winning enough, and it's like, dude, got be you
gotta be realistic about how much he should have been
winning there with what he had to work with overall.
So I absolutely think he should be a Hall of Famer.
You do you think he doesn't Oh no, wow.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
If he doesn't win, if he doesn't win an MVP,
this show have the omvp's first career. Uh huh, he'll
have minimal All pros for his career. I've been a
ton of Pro Bowls. We're going to get to the
point of NFL players that have just compiled a ton
of staff as they play longer now pass the ball
war And I wonder if that excuse the way we
(26:18):
look at a lot of these guys.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I mean, look, my I think you know what something
else is part of that. I think it's the Eli
Manning syndrome. If Eli Manning gets in, and he's going
to he's going to get in like he won two
Super Bowls in dramatic fashion, beat an undefeated team, the
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
We know his story.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
He's going to get in. Whether you think he should
or not, He's getting in there. If you have Eli
Manning in there, how in the world do you not
have Matthew Stafford in there? Like, I think that's going
to enter into some of the voters' minds when we
get down to it with Stafford, Like, how do we
have a Hall of Fame with Eli Manning and no Stafford?
That didn't make sense? That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I think it's I think the stelling point for Eli.
And as I mentioned you, I think you have to
be the best like at your position for some period
of time, or at least be up there.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Right, Yeah, and he wasn't he?
Speaker 3 (27:06):
But then there are suing circumstances where Eli was so
good in those two posts and runs two times for
MVP that, like you have to consider that doesn't outweigh
any of the other factors, right, and as right now
st Stafford doesn't have those right, doesn't have that at
the moment.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
How about Phil How about Philip Rivers?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I don't think he's I don't think he's Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
But do you think he will get in right? Like
you might not think Eli is, but he's gonna get in.
Do you think that Rivers gets it? He's a shoe
in now? Like the comeback story, the Disney thing, Like
he didn't embarrass himself at all.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
He's carving up the Niners.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
So he gets he gets smart, he gets five extra
years of insurance now and gets an extra year pension
and benefits. What. It's just a brilliant business.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Staring pretty good. And I think that impacted his chances.
Like I don't think he went from the sporderline, I
don't know to like, oh yeah, I don't think it
was like that, but I absolutely think it helped his
chances five years from now, came back forty four out
of football and didn't embarrass himself at all, had had
a couple of decent performances when it's all said and done,
(28:07):
So I actually think it helps his candidate.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I don't think it's all of Famer at all. I
mean he might get in, but I mean that doesn't
mean I agree with it.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
No problem, he's going to get in, But I'm problem think.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I just don't think are Hall of famers yeah that
are going to get in at some point. But yeah,
I mean Rivers, yeah, you're probably right, probably gets in.
Stafford gets in. Obviously, Stafford wins again this season. He's
definitely Oh yeah at that point.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
And so you know, how about Russ? How about our
guy Russ? Did he play himself out of it?
Speaker 3 (28:37):
I don't think he's all famer to begin with the
same sort of idea, like when was he the best
at his position? How many years was he the best
or top three is position?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
I just he was never the best, but he was
awesome in Seattle for ten years, man like, and then
it just went south quickly.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
He probably isn't gonna.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Get in, man be cause it's it's like the last
impression thing, and it's not just one bad season is
the last impression. It's seasons plural, you know, and that's
your last impression over the course of years, you know.
Like I think he's played himself out of the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I do. And I think he was in before any
of this went south. I do.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
He was that are you going to put in like
half the quarterbacks of a generation? Like that's part of it, too,
Like how many guys are you going to put in?
If if Wilson goes in, I mean you put you're
gonna put in basically every sort of like winning ish
quarterback of a generation at some point you have to
cut the light off.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Right right, Well, I think that's the point. Like, I
don't think he's going to get in anymore.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
I don't. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I don't think, Like, ask yourself this, how you feel
about him?
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Now?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Are you going to feel better about him five years
from now when he's been out of the NFL? You know, like, no,
you're not. It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
So I think he's probably not making I don't think
Rivers is making it.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Oh he's absolutely made making.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
But Stafford winning this year would would certainly oh yeah,
he'd be a shoe in maybe for Spoel.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Hall of Famer that, oh, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
So I think that, you know, from just like a
legacy perspective, it's important for him to win this year,
but it doesn't secure it doesn't change his life really
at all, I think.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Right right right, he's still he's knighted, you know, winning
that first one, with everything that he had done individually
before that, he was knighted as you know, like one
of the better quarterbacks and uh, you know, a borderline.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Hall of Famer. That was huge.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
That was a that was a perception shifter right there,
because fair or not. He was known for losing. He
was known for never having playoff success, never doing anything
postseason wise, And now you can't say that anymore. That
was how big it was beating the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I'm kind of I'm trying to think of like a
position player who needs a championship this season.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Okay, it's just you know, it's we all know.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
It just doesn't work the same way.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I know.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
First thing like who would benefit the most, who's a
non quarterback?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
That's an interesting thought.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah, sure, I don't really have one off the top
of my head. Like Trent Williams already Hall of Famer,
it didn't need a Super Bowl to win.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
It, right, right, right to be a Hall of Famer.
It's such a different deal, right.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
You know, Lane's already won two like you know that,
you know, like there's no pass rusher right now that
I look at him like that. Guys, a legacy needs
to win for his legacy.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I mean it's not a legacy thing, but maybe it's
just a reputation perception thing. If the Eagles won again
and A J. Brown came up big. You know all
the time that we spend and it's true, like he's
a distraction. He's a diva, like he's a walking soap opera.
If all of a sudden, he's just productive in the
postseason and he's a difference maker all of a sudden,
(31:49):
the negative stuff that's a focal point that goes away
and we focus on the playmaking ability, his production, all
that type of stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
That would be a big deal.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
If AJ Brown was like big in there in their run,
like instrumental in there and in another Super Bowl run,
I think that would that changed his perception quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
It would, it would he There's no wouldn't really on
the top of my head, like a position player who
like needs the Super Bowl to looking for a legacy
or just the needs it for anything. I mean, I
was winning, fantastic. What coach needs it the most?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Wow? What coach needs that's another good question.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Well, I mean I I can't answer it immediately, but
I can just throw out a few names. Right, Shannon,
that's a great name. That's got to be the that's
got to be the guy.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah. I mean he's playing three Super Bowls as a coach, right.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
And think about what he's known for three yep, and
then he lost twice the right ye.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Lost twice, the Chiefs being up double digits in both games,
and there's no Mahomes and there's you know, no, there's
no Tom Brady right, Like this is in this argument
for Buffalo, It's like, this is the year you have
no Mahomes, I know it, and and know Joe Burrow
who you struggle with the pass, like this is the
this is the year to do it.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
And there is and you also have no rush defense,
you know, which you can come back to bite you.
You have a bunch of like number two, number three
receivers that could come back to bite you. So I
hear you, like, this is the year to strike. I
just don't know that they have the goods to strike.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
No, they absolutely do not. Yeah, and they're gonna they're
a seventh seed right now. I don't know if they're
gonna play any stars this weekend. Maybe they're the sixth
seed and go to Jacksonville. But they're gonna go to
New England, who they have lost you once and they
beat you know in that thirty five one game. But
every Bills game feels like it has to be won thirty.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Five thirty one, Right, dude, They're not going.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
To play Eagles offense in this, you know, come out
like yeah, yeah, so every game tell me one like that,
which makes me every team really has like a final
fall in my opinion in this postseason, they do, and
who can overcome it the most?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
And that's the funny thing is the Patriots face flaw
is just a lack of postseason experience. You know, I
look at them roster wise, and I'm like, I'm not like, oh,
they just can't run the ball at all, or they
just can't do this at all. That's not what they are.
It's just they don't have a ton of experience, which
could come back to bite them. But as far as
(34:18):
like their roster, and I don't think there's a fatal
flaw like that.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Do you think there's Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Mean they're they're they're not good enough in my opinion,
offensive line, wide.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Receiver, tackles type.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Yeah, there's like not good enough of those positions.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Dynamic, yeah, the championship.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I think in this in this uh it look Dix
is probably not playing the postseason.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Oh no, he's definitely playing in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
He's playing.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, he's playing, like.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Buy more pay that right?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Oh yeah, I don't know I'm not sure if if
bar is gonna go, but yeah, this thing with Digs. Look, man,
this is me say like downplaying what's alleged to have happened.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
He's gonna play right, right, But this is dude.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
We I've been around the NFL long enough where it's
like his arraignment is and I could be screwing the
timeline up, but it's like the day before the divisional
round or something something like that, right, So we've seen
far worse. This is like an adult conversation. We've seen
far worse allegations. And like the team the NFL, they're like, hey,
(35:23):
until we know for sure that these are serious allegations, right,
But until we know for sure this has proven to
have happened, we kind of operate as if might not have, right,
Like that's more times than not how it goes.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
And the thing is so interesting because the NFL used
to be like really steadfast in there and their their
minds about punishing players and like as soon as possible.
And I always argue they should wait because it's not
that they're not an investigative body, right, Like their job
is not to there's people that are in.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Charge of investigating crimes, right, but they're not.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
But then the situation like this where it's like, these
allegations are very serious and him playing through them feels
kind of icky. But I can't, I can't. I can't
argue both things. I've argued before that they need to
let the process play out because that's sort of the
job of the investigation, right to let it play out
and then figure it out. But it does feel gross
(36:21):
having a player in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Well, that's the thing allegations, right, and that's I think
we overlook how tough of a spot the NFL is in, right,
because like they don't they don't know so.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Because they wanted to be the crimate punishment lead.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
But here's the thing, even though put that to the
side for a second, because the story with Stefawn Diggs,
or the story with any serious allegations, the dig story specifically,
it was his personal chef, a female. There was an
argument over money, and she alleges he hit her and
was choking her. These are serious allegations, right, He's facing
(36:57):
a felony, also a misdemeanor.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
It's a whole thing. And so the NFL they're.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
In this spot where it's like, Okay, he's not allowed
to play because this might be true. And if it's
not proven to be true, it's like, why wouldn't you
let letting this guy play. He's innocent until proven guilty, right,
I thought that was the thing. And then if they're like, okay,
he can play, and he plays a bunch of games
and then it's proven that it did happen, then they
(37:21):
look like, I don't care. Like they're in a tough
position either way with what they choose to do.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
That is because they did this themselves, right, they decided
to be this league that wanted to be the crime
puzzer league. This is not the way people feel about
baseball or basketball when anything happens. But they're like, NFL,
you punish the players now, right, because they.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Brought us on themselves, hey man, and I hear you.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I think it came from a good place, but it
led to the next situation. The next situation is like,
what are you gonna do now? Like if Adrian Peterson's
son has welt marks all over himself, right, and the
NFL says he's on the exempt until we know exactly
right what's going on here, Well, then the next story,
it's like, well, what are you going to do in
this situation? Where are you going to do in that situation?
(38:08):
And then it becomes all about that. It's a tough
spot to be in.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
All right.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
He's Jef Schwartz. I'm Brian No. If you missed anything
on today's show, you'll want to catch the podcast. Just
search two Pros wherever you get your pods. Right after
the show, today's pod will be posted. Be sure to
follow it, rate it five stars, and you can even
provide a review.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Again, just search two.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Pros wherever you get your podcasts, and this full show
will be posted right after we get off the air,
and there will be a best of version posted as well.
All right, Coming up next the Dogs and also New
Year's resolutions for other people. Huh, we'll have some fun
with that. It is two Pros and a cup of Joe.
(38:47):
We're in for the guys right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio
dot com and within the iHeartRadio search FSR to listen live.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
It is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian No.
We're in for two pros and a cup of Joe.
The show is sponsored by Draft Kings sportsbook and official
sports betting partner of the NFL and NBA. Right now,
use the promo code two pros to claim your special
offer at DraftKings. Again, that's promo code two pros at
Draft Kings. The crown is yours, all right, Jeff, So,
(39:26):
very briefly, the nightcap college football playoff game. We've got
the Sugar Bowl. We've got Ole Miss against Georgia. Georgia
taking some money, back up to a six and a
half point favorite. It had ticked down to just six,
but it's back up to six and a half. We're
both on the dogs, are we not? Like their defense
is played a lot better down the stretch. Kirby smart
(39:47):
Obviously the coaching advantage. Pete Golding might be a good
head coach one day.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
You need reps. You need reps as a player, you
need reps as a coach.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
And he was just an interim coach a second ago,
filling in for Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
So I got the dogs in this one. I think
they cover.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
I was for a second, I was like underdogs. No way.
This game feels like it's not talked about it at all.
I mean just like sort of just like Georgia's gonna win,
and I think they are. They're much better. Their defense
has played so much better recently, and I think that
we're not taking that into consideration. We look at them
in some of the bigger games. They had old miscort
thirty five points of three quarters, right, Tennessee scored a
bunch early on, but then they clammed down on defense.
(40:24):
And their defense has just gone so much better that
they look they have a score touchdown against something in
the Nancy Gentry game. So I think they're primed to ready.
They've been here before. Terby does how to get this
team going? And you're right, Pete Golding is just not
your second game ever as a playoff game against Georgia. No,
I no, give me, give me the Bulldogs.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Yeah, give me the dogs right there? All right?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
New Year's resolutions for other people, right, not for yourself.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
For other people.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
It's more fun this way, right, Like what should other
people have as resolutions? So it could be a person,
could be a league, could be anything in the sports world.
This is what I came up with. Jeff Hey, college football,
fix your stupid transfer portal window. Let's do that. It's
a terrible time. Hey, NFL, fix your dumb playoff format, Like,
(41:11):
let's see these teams based on record, not based on
all they won their division automatic home game. It's dumb
and hey Bejon Robinson, No resolutions, don't change anything. Just
stick stick with what it's working. Great, you got any
resolutions for anyone there?
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Jeff Well, I kind of like how much it bothers
you The NFL seeds that way.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Oh it's so bad. Are we gonna argue about that
on Sunday? Please? We will? Yes, okay, we will. Happy
New Year to you and everybody else. We'll see you
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Oh what's going on?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Happy Thursday, Happy New Year, Happy twenty twenty six. As
we ring in the new year with some ball. Is
there a better way than that? I don't think there is.
We got a triple header college football playoff action today.
We have dissected Jeff's Ducks taking on Texas Tech. Jeff
(00:27):
to you know, to recap it here, Jeff thinks that, hey,
if Oregon takes care of the football, they're winning this game.
Texas Tech they make their hay on short fields, right, Jeff, Right,
they do buddy football, make them go the long way,
and that's going to be to the Ducks advantage. Texas Tech,
like a lot of Oregon opponents, if they get in
the thirties, they got a real shot here. And he's
(00:49):
not saying it they have to get there to have
a shot. He's just saying they've got a much better
shot because Oregon's record starts to go south when they
allow thirty plus points, so.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
That seven otherwise they are forty to ozho when they
allow less than thirty points.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
By the way, did you see the graphic.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
They showed it for a millisecond last night, but Ryan
Day heading into the fourth quarter while trailing. Since twenty
nineteen one in seven, you can make that one in
eight now. So not a whole lot of comeback from
behind success at interesting Ohio State. Yeah, and some of
them think about that, some of those games, like you're
(01:28):
the much more talented team against a much lesser talented
Michigan team. A lot of those years in that losing streak,
you're not coming back against them time and time again.
So one thing to keep in mind. How about how
about we look at the Rose Bowl. How about Alabama
against Indiana. We got IU seven point favorites, the total
(01:50):
is forty eight and a half.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
We got rain, We got rain going.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I've been raining steady drizzle over there in Pasadena. And
what do you think about that that? I know, it's
like the super Bowl. Never rains during the Super Bowl,
and then you know, Prince is playing in the purple
rain like when it's the Bears and Colts, so every
now and then it does. So, uh, they said there
might be a little pocket of no rain for this
(02:17):
Rose Bowl game, which would make sense. It's raining cats
and dogs until the game kicks off, and then for
a portion of it it's it's dry, but I think
that's a major deal in this game, Jeff, like Alabama
sucky running game. If this is more of a you know,
a rock em sock em, we got to run the
ball to be effective. Like that is disadvantage Alabama all
(02:38):
day Alabama.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
I can't I'm saying this is worse in the end.
In the trenches.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Absolutely, they they they're they camera.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
The football, which obviously you know doesn't help with the
efficiency wise a plupper Hereabama is eighty fourth and rushing
success rates. How about this yards per successful rush, yards
per rush, no sacks, So including the sacks, where are
they ranking the.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Country excluding sacks?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, yeah, obviously because sacks are included in the rushing total.
So if you remove that, just talking yards per rush
no sacks.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Oh, yards per rush no sacks, they're low man, Like
I would guess man somewhere in the nineties, maybe something
like that, oh my gosh, like.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
One hundred thirty six teams in individual and football. And
then on the flip side, they don't rush the passer Brian.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
They have a non existent pass rush.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
One hundred and nineteenth the country and pressure rate and
PFF ranks their pass rush one hundred and thirty first
of the country. So that benefits of well, we sacked
the quarterback a lot. Yeah, yes, and no, like you
had five sets in Oklahoma. The the three previous SEC
games you played, you had four sacks totals. So like
depends on the game who you're playing. Indiana is a
(04:00):
team that dude, they're a boa constrictor. Right, the more
that you breathe heavily, the more that you fight, the
more like they just constrict you. Like just like that, right,
I like that. They just they play such a discipline
brand of football. Don't make mistakes. Discipline. They don't do
(04:21):
a ton of stuff on offense. It's not it's not
a complex offense. I think this we get to Mendoza
as far as like a draft grade, we're gonna realize,
like the bowl over the middle of the field. Ever, like,
that's not what they do. There are a lot of
outside shots, comebacks, fades, goes, RPO, slants, r PO, you know,
you know, hooks over the middle, right, crow up over
the middle, spot routes, some play action pass deep, but
(04:44):
like not a lot of intermediate stuff that are as
part of their offense. They run inside zone a ton
primarily off R P O and then defensively. It is
a very complex defense. It is a sim pressure defense,
which for those who are.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
So pressure, I love simulated pressure. So break it down.
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
So, essentially you have four pass rushers correct on a
given play, you might have five if you're in base defense.
And what similar pressures mean is that you're essentially gonna
rush four or five while making.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It look like you're gonna rush seven right.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
And so you might rush like four from the left
side and drop everyone on the right side back into coverage.
You might rush two up the middle, two off the edge,
and then drop two guys out that are lined up
over the guards like those guys drop me out. Could
be defensive linemen, could be linebackers, could be safeties. Like
you're just so, you're simulating pressure and you're trying to
(05:42):
end up in this it worked well against Oregon. You're
trying to end up with as an offensive line former
offense line and I am the goal for us as
offensive lineman is to block us five block to five
most dangerous right. And what simular pressures do is they
try to have the offensive lineman block three of the
four and the fourth is left for running back, a
tight end, the.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Quarterback, create a mismatch correct and that's what.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
It's trying to do. And they did that really well
against against organ in the first game, and so that's
what they're trying to do. They're trying to get bring
four guys, have three on the offensive line and one
on a running back or a tight end or on
the quarterback. Sometimes I love bringing this up because people
I think don't understand this. There are times when when
there are free runners right at the quarterback. Guys are
not blocked. That are the responsibility of the quarterback. They're
(06:27):
not responsibility for us. Yeah, they're not responsibility of the
running back of the tight end. They are free and
the adjustment is obviously you have a site route like
something to to, but it's on the quarterback. And so
that is how Indiana plays defense. And against Alabama offensive line,
I'm even really going to confuse them, really really, you'll
confuse him a lot. My concern about this game is
(06:50):
the bye is the buy situation? Because Signetti mentioned it.
I love he's so honest. He's just like as honest
as they come. He said, we have not practiced very
well and that concerns me. Now, Kirby Smart. We've heard
from Kirby and he's been like, you know, MF and
his team practice. It sort of feels like a thing
that's happening right now. But I think he just wants
(07:11):
them to be ready for this game. It's a Rose Bowl, man,
They're gonna be ready to play this game. I like
Indiana cover this game. I have not made a wager
any of these numbers yet I have, so what waitning
four is this? Yesterday we saw a ton of money
come in on Miami before kickoff. I'm waiting for the
six to pop up for Indiana today. I think I
think we'll get a six. I'm waiting for that because
(07:33):
people a gonna wake up and be like, Bama's a sama. Yeah,
I think we'll get a six. If we get six today,
I'll take Indiana.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
And uh, you know that's the thing too, man, is
there's a lot of brand recognition here. And if you
put this same Alabama team, same you know, same strengths,
same weaknesses, you put them in different colored uniforms and
call them Vanderbilt, they're twelve point dogs in this game.
They are twelve point underdogs. I think the brand of
(08:04):
Bama is making a big impact betting wise, because look,
they don't run the ball, they have no pass rush.
The other thing is Indiana. They blitz at a forty
eight percent clip, that's thirteenth in the country. They send
a lot of pressure, and ty Simpson has shown a
Jared Goff like inability to handle a legitimate pass rush.
(08:27):
He's looked skittish at times, He's been inaccurate at times.
He had no answers against Georgia in the SEC Championship game.
And so there are multiple things going directly against Alabama
in this matchup.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Might be a little.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Soggy, might be a little drizzly, right, that could impact
the passing game as well. So I'm all over Indiana
in this game. I have not bought into Alabama all
season long. I think their deficiencies come back to bite
them in a big way. And give them credit, they
found a way to win eleven games, somehow, some way.
They've got it done, and they do bring some strength
(09:01):
to the table, but their formula for success is unsustainable.
They cannot keep winning these games with no pass rush,
no running game, and beat quality opponents in the playoff
one after another.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
No, it's not. And you know you mentioned that the
pressure rate for Indiana, but it's not they're not bringing
five or six guys like that's that's what makes it
so like they're bringing four but then dropping seven to cover.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
The camouflying it right, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Really hard to figure out what you know where they're at. So,
but you think about Indiana too. That's so unique is
that we have this, uh the blue chip ratio right
where essentially the last like twenty champions have had this
amount of blue chip guys in the ross are four
and five star players. Indiana would would break the mold
of that. Now. Part of that is the portal has
changed the way we evaluate players. But in most games
(09:56):
you would look at and be like, well, Alabama's the
more talented team, and in college football that does matter
a lot, right, the more talented team tends to win
more often the team that just sort of like the
plucky underdog. But Indiana, and with the way they've played,
if if I wins today, it wouldn't shock me right
now they have better players overall on their team.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I mean I'd be surprised that you can't be shocked
like that's come on, yeah, it.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Would surprise you. But if you get if you look
at the rosters and yeah, sure, like that makes sense.
But that's what Indiana's secret power is. It's like they're
the way they play football. It's such a clean brand
of football, mistake free football. Well for not to mention
this too about Oregon, Texas Tech or Texas Tech is
like one hundred and twenty of the country and penalty
yards averaged over two penalties a game on offensive line.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
By the way, they're hoping that the officiating crew from
last night is wow.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Well so because Oregon, so Oregon is like Organ's secondary
is very physical and depends on the officiating crew.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
You get if the officials class that were like penalties,
you're gonna have to mug a guy for us to
even think about throwing a flag.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
And Texas Tech arounds a ton of go routes and
we're gonna get like three passing for instances today. I'm
just telling you. But nonetheless, I'm with you. In Indiana.
Alabama's team total, I'm gonna guess.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
It's twenty and a half right around there.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
It is, Yeah, yeah, nineteen and a half.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Now you get tick down.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
You guys shop around. Obviously I would be tempted to
do that. I really would. Now, Yeah, is Indianna have
the by the bye thing? Is that going to be?
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, that's something you got to think about.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
But here's here's the thing to me, Jeff, is there
are two things that I think makes life even more
difficult for Alabama. I think that it's what you just mentioned.
Like Alabama, they're gonna have this in their mind, like,
hey man, we got to start off strongly, like these
teams that have had buys.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
This is a thing, right.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Like we're talking about all these teams struggling in their
first game after a bye, and so like Indiana is
going to make it a point to start off strongly.
And the other thing they're gonna do if somehow, someway
they have a lead. Let's say Alabama, Indiana is leading
by I don't know, ten, thirteen, fourteen points in the
(12:14):
second half. They know off of the last game like
Oklahoma is crushing them seventeen to nothing. Alabama comes all
the way back wins the game. So Indiana is going
to be well aware that it's not over until it's over.
And I think that makes a comeback effort a lot
more difficult for Alabama too, So it's like everything is
(12:35):
pointing to Indiana in this matchup.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
In my mind, I agree, man, I I like you too.
But here's the thing too, is that you know everyone
did the parlay right the money, Yeah, let's go 's.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Go money line Indiana and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I already have Indiana Georgia in a parlay together, not
Ohio State. So that loss out of the way. So
don't feel like today will be more chalky in the
in the later games, at least in my opinion, to
be more chalking later.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I think so too. I think so I will have.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
A way from Indiana and on Georgia. I just stidn't
see where the numbers end up going.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, little money on ole miss a little bit. It's
ticked down to Georgia minus six right now. Maybe the
first round thing is I don't know if that's what
your angle is for the money to go in old
missus favor. I'll tell you two betting things that caught
my eye. Jeff, you'll like this as far as the
props go. One man, it's the season that Ryan Williams
(13:30):
has had, who was a brilliant freshman receiver with Alabama
not so much of a stud sophomore. Here his receiving
prop yardage like is at thirty and a half and
he is fifth in the pecking order of receiving yardage
of Alabama wide receivers or tight ends.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
He's the fifth guy.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Man Like he was steadily like at least second behind
Jeremy Bernard.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
He's fifth right now.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
That guy has completely disappeared out of the offense. It's
like he's not even threatening defenses right now. And he
was such a stud freshman. It's amazing to see where
he's fallen in his second year at Alabama.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I never would have thought that's that would have happened,
But here we are.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
He feels like a portal guy, which is kind of
crazy to say, Wow, right, like why would he stay there?
But I mean, sometimes you just you know, you're you
fall out of favor. You know, sometimes you as a
young player, you might take it for granted a little bit,
and and maybe you don't you'll put in the work
and whatnot, and and you don't you know, give it, like,
you know, the the best effort in the offiction because
(14:37):
you're hearing your accolades and whatnot. And uh, I think
that that that might be part of it with with him,
Like I just speculating. I don't only know, but that's
certainly something that that I could see being a reason why,
you know, he just isn't maybe as you know, as
(14:58):
you know, as uh that's good this year. I don't know,
but it does feel like it's just an oddity, like
you just wouldn't expect this to come after last year.
To remember all we had to trazy. We heard it,
yeah a thousand times last year, Like he's seventeen years old. Everybody,
he's seventeen, remember that, just non just seventeen years old,
and uh, yeah, he's seventeen, but you know he's obviously
(15:19):
it doesn't matter now he's not playing.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
No, he made some brilliant plays last season, and it's
gone south for him this year. He's had a lot
of drops, like a lack of targets. Sometimes he's made
no catches down the stretch here.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
It's wild.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
But the other thing that caught my eye real fast
is Fernando Mendoza. His passing yards prop has ticked down
quite a bit. It was at two thirty three and
a half.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Earlier in the week.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
It's at two twenty and a half right now. Now
the interesting thing is Ty Simpson's number hasn't ticked down
at all, And you could look for the reasons why,
and there are like Indiana can run the ball way
better than Alabama can. So maybe Indiana with little soggy conditions,
maybe they rely on the running game a little bit more,
maybe game script. Maybe Indiana has a lead and they're
(16:03):
running it a little bit more later on, not looking
to pass it so that all can factor in. But
it's just interesting to me if this is any way
connected to the weather. Mendozas went down by thirteen yards.
Ty Simpsons didn't budge one yard, So that caught my eye.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
I thought that was kind of interesting right there.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, maybe maybe maybe the weather makes makes a role
in that. Again if it I you know, the weather thing,
we'll just we don't. It's just on Sundays. But we
should talk about today. Yeah, you shouldn't change your wager
unless it's really windy. Wind is the biggest problem. It's
not rain. It's not snow now at the Rose Bowl.
(16:43):
It's a footing gonna be great in the rain. That's
fair to wonder. I mean it's it's not you know
often like you know, it's it's not built to like,
you know, to have to have a lot of rain
in that stadium. But if it's not windy, it doesn't matter.
Like it's not going to change very much.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, no, no, not no doubt. And that's the Yeah,
that's I'm glad that you put that. You put that
out there where you know it's not gonna be u
you know, in Buffalo like a sideways wind, you know,
like we got it's going thirty mile per hour gusts
and all that. It's not gonna be like that at
the Rose Bowl. It might be soggy, but yeah, you
can throw it in the rain. There's no wind, Like
(17:20):
you should be okay with that, so absolutely, Hey, Makita
tools at the Home Depot are built with precision, without shortcuts.
Designed for the toughest jobs. It's the choice for pros
when the job calls for the best call on. Makita
built to be the best available at the home depot.
How pros get more done? All right, come it up next.
(17:41):
Who would benefit the most from winning it all? They
all would benefit from but who would benefit the absolute most?
Jeff Schwartz and I compare notes. Right around the corner.
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian nowhere in for two pros
and a cup of Joe right here on Fox Sports Radio,
Quick time out Holiday upgrade.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Check.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
If your TV struggles in the red zone, Oh it's time.
Tcl's QD Mini led is the difference. Outrageous brightness, deep contrast,
accurate color and silky motion. So every route, replay and
highlight looks epic. You gotta have the silky motion or
you're just wasting your time. Movies feel cinematic. Games they
(18:25):
play smoother and yes, your crew will notice. Here's the
kicker with holiday savings off select tcltvs Go Premium with
the QM eight.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
K four K get fit. We're talking eight K.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Baby, brilliant picture, huge sound, the ultimate choice. Or grab
the versatile QM six K for an elevated game day experience.
Lock in epic experiences, epic savings, and undeniable bragging rights
all season long while supplies last. TCL is the official
TV partner of the NFL. Find TCL at all major retailers.
(19:06):
TCL Bigger, Brighter, better holidays, Select models, Limited time se
site for details, Fox.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.
Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio dot com
and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.
Polly Foods Go ahead with Tony Foodsco. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
As everybody knows, we're the hosts of the award winning
Polly and Toni Foodsco Show. Yeah, but instead of us
telling you how great we are, here's how Dan Patrick
described us when he came on our show.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Quick, knowledgeable and funny, opinionated.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
What do you doing?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Were interrupting our promo? Yeah, you wasn't talking about you.
You took those clips totally of context.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Oh yeah, well after this promo, I'm gonna take you
out and beat you.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Let me put this into context.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Shut up.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Yeah, anyway, just listen to the Paully and Toni Fousco
Show on iHeartRadio Apple podcast.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
That's wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yea, it is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm
Brian though. We're in for two pros and a cup
of Joe Cold Knights. Call for better sleep shop Mattress
Firms once a year sale and clearance and save up
to five hundred dollars on select temper Pedic mattresses with
(20:25):
next day delivery Restrictions apply. Next day delivery available on
select mattresses and subject to location.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
C store for details. All Right, Jeff, I thought we
could compare notes a little bit.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
So the other day I was filling in for Ben
Mallor and I busted out my list of the top
five quarterbacks that would benefit Though. We love lists, especially
on the Ben Maler Show. Ben it loves him something,
he loves good. He's a sucker for a good list man.
But the top five players that would benefit the most,
(20:58):
Top five quarterbacks that would benefit the most from winning a.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Super Bowl this season.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Now we know every quarterback in the playoffs would benefit
some in varying ways, right, So I thought, like I
had my list, I could do it cliff notes version,
just in case someone was listening to the Mallord Show.
You don't want to hear the same radio stuff all
over again. But I was curious, Yeah, what your list
looked like? You know, like, what do you have, like
(21:22):
in the top three, at least the top three quarterbacks
that would benefit the most from winning a ring this season.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I mean number one is Josh Allen I have the
same thing.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah, that feels like you have no mahomes in your way. Yeah, no,
Joe Burrow on your way.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Right.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
They have not had a problem with Baltimore in the posts.
I'm not even really played Baltimore the posts. Everyone's you know,
I think that.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Was they have that Lamar threw a pick six that
no one remembers he was the COVID season, No one
was in the stands. Yeah, it's like thirteen to six
lost the game, no one remembers.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Number two would be Lamar Jackson, Okay, on that list.
You know, I think that winning a championship would and
any discussion anyone ever has about Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
No doubt that's that's true.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I talked earlier about you know, I just I just
don't love the offense being so centered around his ability
to run, yeah, not his ability to pass. Well, that
would change if they win a championship. Was who you know,
what what am I to say? Like, I mean, you know, like, okay,
number three would be brought.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Pretty Yeah, well, I was close to you.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
I had purty second, because look, man, for people like
me who say he's.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Good, he's not great.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
He's not elite he's not a difference maker like all
those people who have to shut up and take the
l if he wins at all, Like and that's part
of his brand. He's known as the last pick of
the draft.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
He's known.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
They'll say it on a telecast today, like, well he
still is mister irrelevant, even though he's playing really good football.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Look, yeah he's been.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
It's he's been a polarizing guy even though he's like
a not a polarizing person at all. Like he's lunch pale,
I'm wearing my Dockers, I'm doing my job. Like he's
not this lightning rod of controversy. It's just his game.
I don't know what it is like being the last pick.
Some people doubting him, like his protectors like protecting the
(23:12):
sanctity of Brockberdy and that you got this back and
forth oil and water mixture. But like he would go
from the last pick of the draft to a Super
Bowl champion, especially for that franchise, it would be mammoth
for him, There's no doubt, and that back and forth
stuff would just cease.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
You're right about that.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I didn't put Lamar on my list because and you're right,
it would it would do a world of good for him.
I just don't think the Ravens have a shot this season.
That's the only thing I can't logically right, And I
know you're not saying that. I just can't logically like
walk down the road of Hey, maybe the Ravens win
it all. They have no chance to win it all
this season.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I'm looking at the rest of the of the of
the list of playoff teams, and I think, I honestly
think on my list ends it those three quarterbacks and
really else, Yeah, anyone else winning. There's no pressure any
else to win.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Look, yeah, pressure is a different thing. Benefit of winning.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
What would it benefit Justin Herbert to win a Championship's
not gonna win a championship? Would absolutely benefit It would
have benefit Bo Knicks and Trevor.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Lawrence, I benefit everybody, but I would I would have
third on my list, Jeff.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Sam, I have Donald. I got Donald on my list.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
So I I think it's yeah, so Alan Party, Lamar Darnald,
Let those four feel like right, you could say, Jordan Love,
but the Patris are winning a championship, so massofs already
won a championship. Caleb's not winning their two. They're two,
they're too young, not ready for that yet. Hurts has
already won, you know, Like I mean Rogers wins one more,
(24:37):
maybe he's looked at differently, but like that's huge.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
You got a couple of legacy quarterbacks, like you just
mentioned Rogers Stafford. If you're if Stafford is able to
win his second one, we're talking legacy type stuff. Rogers
winning a second one like two with two different franchises,
that's the way he rides off into the sunset. That
would be enormous, right, be big for every one of
these guys. So U yeah, man, but that would be
(25:01):
my top three, like without my brain like wrapped around. Hey, hey,
Lamar could win it all, I would go Josh Allen
Purty Donold.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
No, he's not going to. Is matstaff for a Hall
of Famer without another championship?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
He should be. He should absolutely be a Hall of Famer.
That that shouldn't even be a question. Like he's put
up Like the thing is, he's put up numbers the
whole time. He put up numbers in Detroit when that
was not a talented roster. Now granted he had Megatron
for a big stretch there, but he had no defense.
(25:36):
He had no special teams, and he's getting knocked for
not winning enough, and it's like, dude, got be you
gotta be realistic about how much he should have been
winning there with what he had to work with overall.
So I absolutely think he should be a Hall of Famer.
You do you think he doesn't Oh no, wow.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
If he doesn't win, if he doesn't win an MVP,
this show have the omvp's first career. Uh huh, he'll
have minimal All pros for his career. I've been a
ton of Pro Bowls. We're going to get to the
point of NFL players that have just compiled a ton
of staff as they play longer now pass the ball
war And I wonder if that excuse the way we
(26:18):
look at a lot of these guys.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
I mean, look, my I think you know what something
else is part of that. I think it's the Eli
Manning syndrome. If Eli Manning gets in, and he's going
to he's going to get in like he won two
Super Bowls in dramatic fashion, beat an undefeated team, the
whole thing.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
We know his story.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
He's going to get in. Whether you think he should
or not, He's getting in there. If you have Eli
Manning in there, how in the world do you not
have Matthew Stafford in there? Like, I think that's going
to enter into some of the voters' minds when we
get down to it with Stafford, Like, how do we
have a Hall of Fame with Eli Manning and no Stafford?
That didn't make sense? That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I think it's I think the stelling point for Eli.
And as I mentioned you, I think you have to
be the best like at your position for some period
of time, or at least be up there.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Right, Yeah, and he wasn't he?
Speaker 3 (27:06):
But then there are suing circumstances where Eli was so
good in those two posts and runs two times for
MVP that, like you have to consider that doesn't outweigh
any of the other factors, right, and as right now
st Stafford doesn't have those right, doesn't have that at
the moment.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
How about Phil How about Philip Rivers?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I don't think he's I don't think he's Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
But do you think he will get in right? Like
you might not think Eli is, but he's gonna get in.
Do you think that Rivers gets it? He's a shoe
in now? Like the comeback story, the Disney thing, Like
he didn't embarrass himself at all.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
He's carving up the Niners.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
So he gets he gets smart, he gets five extra
years of insurance now and gets an extra year pension
and benefits. What. It's just a brilliant business.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Staring pretty good. And I think that impacted his chances.
Like I don't think he went from the sporderline, I
don't know to like, oh yeah, I don't think it
was like that, but I absolutely think it helped his
chances five years from now, came back forty four out
of football and didn't embarrass himself at all, had had
a couple of decent performances when it's all said and done,
(28:07):
So I actually think it helps his candidate.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I don't think it's all of Famer at all. I
mean he might get in, but I mean that doesn't
mean I agree with it.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
No problem, he's going to get in, But I'm problem think.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I just don't think are Hall of famers yeah that
are going to get in at some point. But yeah,
I mean Rivers, yeah, you're probably right, probably gets in.
Stafford gets in. Obviously, Stafford wins again this season. He's
definitely Oh yeah at that point.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
And so you know, how about Russ? How about our
guy Russ? Did he play himself out of it?
Speaker 3 (28:37):
I don't think he's all famer to begin with the
same sort of idea, like when was he the best
at his position? How many years was he the best
or top three is position?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
I just he was never the best, but he was
awesome in Seattle for ten years, man like, and then
it just went south quickly.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
He probably isn't gonna.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Get in, man be cause it's it's like the last
impression thing, and it's not just one bad season is
the last impression. It's seasons plural, you know, and that's
your last impression over the course of years, you know.
Like I think he's played himself out of the Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I do. And I think he was in before any
of this went south. I do.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
He was that are you going to put in like
half the quarterbacks of a generation? Like that's part of it, too,
Like how many guys are you going to put in?
If if Wilson goes in, I mean you put you're
gonna put in basically every sort of like winning ish
quarterback of a generation at some point you have to
cut the light off.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Right right, Well, I think that's the point. Like, I
don't think he's going to get in anymore.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
I don't. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I don't think, Like, ask yourself this, how you feel
about him?
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Now?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Are you going to feel better about him five years
from now when he's been out of the NFL? You know, like, no,
you're not. It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
So I think he's probably not making I don't think
Rivers is making it.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Oh he's absolutely made making.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
But Stafford winning this year would would certainly oh yeah,
he'd be a shoe in maybe for Spoel.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Hall of Famer that, oh, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
So I think that, you know, from just like a
legacy perspective, it's important for him to win this year,
but it doesn't secure it doesn't change his life really
at all, I think.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Right right right, he's still he's knighted, you know, winning
that first one, with everything that he had done individually
before that, he was knighted as you know, like one
of the better quarterbacks and uh, you know, a borderline.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Hall of Famer. That was huge.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
That was a that was a perception shifter right there,
because fair or not. He was known for losing. He
was known for never having playoff success, never doing anything
postseason wise, And now you can't say that anymore. That
was how big it was beating the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I'm kind of I'm trying to think of like a
position player who needs a championship this season.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Okay, it's just you know, it's we all know.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
It just doesn't work the same way.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I know.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
First thing like who would benefit the most, who's a
non quarterback?
Speaker 1 (31:06):
That's an interesting thought.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Yeah, sure, I don't really have one off the top
of my head. Like Trent Williams already Hall of Famer,
it didn't need a Super Bowl to win.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
It, right, right, right to be a Hall of Famer.
It's such a different deal, right.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
You know, Lane's already won two like you know that,
you know, like there's no pass rusher right now that
I look at him like that. Guys, a legacy needs
to win for his legacy.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I mean it's not a legacy thing, but maybe it's
just a reputation perception thing. If the Eagles won again
and A J. Brown came up big. You know all
the time that we spend and it's true, like he's
a distraction. He's a diva, like he's a walking soap opera.
If all of a sudden, he's just productive in the
postseason and he's a difference maker all of a sudden,
(31:49):
the negative stuff that's a focal point that goes away
and we focus on the playmaking ability, his production, all
that type of stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
That would be a big deal.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
If AJ Brown was like big in there in their run,
like instrumental in there and in another Super Bowl run,
I think that would that changed his perception quite a bit.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
It would, it would he There's no wouldn't really on
the top of my head, like a position player who
like needs the Super Bowl to looking for a legacy
or just the needs it for anything. I mean, I
was winning, fantastic. What coach needs it the most?
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Wow? What coach needs that's another good question.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Well, I mean I I can't answer it immediately, but
I can just throw out a few names. Right, Shannon,
that's a great name. That's got to be the that's
got to be the guy.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Yeah. I mean he's playing three Super Bowls as a coach, right.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
And think about what he's known for three yep, and
then he lost twice the right ye.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Lost twice, the Chiefs being up double digits in both games,
and there's no Mahomes and there's you know, no, there's
no Tom Brady right, Like this is in this argument
for Buffalo, It's like, this is the year you have
no Mahomes, I know it, and and know Joe Burrow
who you struggle with the pass, like this is the
this is the year to do it.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
And there is and you also have no rush defense,
you know, which you can come back to bite you.
You have a bunch of like number two, number three
receivers that could come back to bite you. So I
hear you, like, this is the year to strike. I
just don't know that they have the goods to strike.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
No, they absolutely do not. Yeah, and they're gonna they're
a seventh seed right now. I don't know if they're
gonna play any stars this weekend. Maybe they're the sixth
seed and go to Jacksonville. But they're gonna go to
New England, who they have lost you once and they
beat you know in that thirty five one game. But
every Bills game feels like it has to be won thirty.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
Five thirty one, Right, dude, They're not going.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
To play Eagles offense in this, you know, come out
like yeah, yeah, so every game tell me one like that,
which makes me every team really has like a final
fall in my opinion in this postseason, they do, and
who can overcome it the most?
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
And that's the funny thing is the Patriots face flaw
is just a lack of postseason experience. You know, I
look at them roster wise, and I'm like, I'm not like, oh,
they just can't run the ball at all, or they
just can't do this at all. That's not what they are.
It's just they don't have a ton of experience, which
could come back to bite them. But as far as
(34:18):
like their roster, and I don't think there's a fatal
flaw like that.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Do you think there's Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Mean they're they're they're not good enough in my opinion,
offensive line, wide.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Receiver, tackles type.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Yeah, there's like not good enough of those positions.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Dynamic, yeah, the championship.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I think in this in this uh it look Dix
is probably not playing the postseason.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Oh no, he's definitely playing in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
He's playing.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, he's playing, like.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Buy more pay that right?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Oh yeah, I don't know I'm not sure if if
bar is gonna go, but yeah, this thing with Digs. Look, man,
this is me say like downplaying what's alleged to have happened.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
He's gonna play right, right, But this is dude.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
We I've been around the NFL long enough where it's
like his arraignment is and I could be screwing the
timeline up, but it's like the day before the divisional
round or something something like that, right, So we've seen
far worse. This is like an adult conversation. We've seen
far worse allegations. And like the team the NFL, they're like, hey,
(35:23):
until we know for sure that these are serious allegations, right,
But until we know for sure this has proven to
have happened, we kind of operate as if might not have, right,
Like that's more times than not how it goes.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
And the thing is so interesting because the NFL used
to be like really steadfast in there and their their
minds about punishing players and like as soon as possible.
And I always argue they should wait because it's not
that they're not an investigative body, right, Like their job
is not to there's people that are in.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Charge of investigating crimes, right, but they're not.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
But then the situation like this where it's like, these
allegations are very serious and him playing through them feels
kind of icky. But I can't, I can't. I can't
argue both things. I've argued before that they need to
let the process play out because that's sort of the
job of the investigation, right to let it play out
and then figure it out. But it does feel gross
(36:21):
having a player in the postseason.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Well, that's the thing allegations, right, and that's I think
we overlook how tough of a spot the NFL is in, right,
because like they don't they don't know so.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Because they wanted to be the crimate punishment lead.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
But here's the thing, even though put that to the
side for a second, because the story with Stefawn Diggs,
or the story with any serious allegations, the dig story specifically,
it was his personal chef, a female. There was an
argument over money, and she alleges he hit her and
was choking her. These are serious allegations, right, He's facing
(36:57):
a felony, also a misdemeanor.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
It's a whole thing. And so the NFL they're.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
In this spot where it's like, Okay, he's not allowed
to play because this might be true. And if it's
not proven to be true, it's like, why wouldn't you
let letting this guy play. He's innocent until proven guilty, right,
I thought that was the thing. And then if they're like, okay,
he can play, and he plays a bunch of games
and then it's proven that it did happen, then they
(37:21):
look like, I don't care. Like they're in a tough
position either way with what they choose to do.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
That is because they did this themselves, right, they decided
to be this league that wanted to be the crime
puzzer league. This is not the way people feel about
baseball or basketball when anything happens. But they're like, NFL,
you punish the players now, right, because they.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Brought us on themselves, hey man, and I hear you.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I think it came from a good place, but it
led to the next situation. The next situation is like,
what are you gonna do now? Like if Adrian Peterson's
son has welt marks all over himself, right, and the
NFL says he's on the exempt until we know exactly
right what's going on here, Well, then the next story,
it's like, well, what are you going to do in
this situation? Where are you going to do in that situation?
(38:08):
And then it becomes all about that. It's a tough
spot to be in.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
All right.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
He's Jef Schwartz. I'm Brian No. If you missed anything
on today's show, you'll want to catch the podcast. Just
search two Pros wherever you get your pods. Right after
the show, today's pod will be posted. Be sure to
follow it, rate it five stars, and you can even
provide a review.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Again, just search two.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Pros wherever you get your podcasts, and this full show
will be posted right after we get off the air,
and there will be a best of version posted as well.
All right, Coming up next the Dogs and also New
Year's resolutions for other people. Huh, we'll have some fun
with that. It is two Pros and a cup of Joe.
(38:47):
We're in for the guys right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio
dot com and within the iHeartRadio search FSR to listen live.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
It is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian No.
We're in for two pros and a cup of Joe.
The show is sponsored by Draft Kings sportsbook and official
sports betting partner of the NFL and NBA. Right now,
use the promo code two pros to claim your special
offer at DraftKings. Again, that's promo code two pros at
Draft Kings. The crown is yours, all right, Jeff, So,
(39:26):
very briefly, the nightcap college football playoff game. We've got
the Sugar Bowl. We've got Ole Miss against Georgia. Georgia
taking some money, back up to a six and a
half point favorite. It had ticked down to just six,
but it's back up to six and a half. We're
both on the dogs, are we not? Like their defense
is played a lot better down the stretch. Kirby smart
(39:47):
Obviously the coaching advantage. Pete Golding might be a good
head coach one day.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
You need reps. You need reps as a player, you
need reps as a coach.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
And he was just an interim coach a second ago,
filling in for Lane Kiffin.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
So I got the dogs in this one. I think
they cover.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
I was for a second, I was like underdogs. No way.
This game feels like it's not talked about it at all.
I mean just like sort of just like Georgia's gonna win,
and I think they are. They're much better. Their defense
has played so much better recently, and I think that
we're not taking that into consideration. We look at them
in some of the bigger games. They had old miscort
thirty five points of three quarters, right, Tennessee scored a
bunch early on, but then they clammed down on defense.
(40:24):
And their defense has just gone so much better that
they look they have a score touchdown against something in
the Nancy Gentry game. So I think they're primed to ready.
They've been here before. Terby does how to get this
team going? And you're right, Pete Golding is just not
your second game ever as a playoff game against Georgia. No,
I no, give me, give me the Bulldogs.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
Yeah, give me the dogs right there? All right?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
New Year's resolutions for other people, right, not for yourself.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
For other people.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
It's more fun this way, right, Like what should other
people have as resolutions? So it could be a person,
could be a league, could be anything in the sports world.
This is what I came up with. Jeff Hey, college football,
fix your stupid transfer portal window. Let's do that. It's
a terrible time. Hey, NFL, fix your dumb playoff format, Like,
(41:11):
let's see these teams based on record, not based on
all they won their division automatic home game. It's dumb
and hey Bejon Robinson, No resolutions, don't change anything. Just
stick stick with what it's working. Great, you got any
resolutions for anyone there?
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Jeff Well, I kind of like how much it bothers
you The NFL seeds that way.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
Oh it's so bad. Are we gonna argue about that
on Sunday? Please? We will? Yes, okay, we will. Happy
New Year to you and everybody else. We'll see you
Hosts And Creators
Brady Quinn
LaVar Arrington
Jonas Knox
Popular Podcasts
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.