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Speaker 3 (00:34):
What is going on? Happy Monday to you? As I
messed up and said, Happy Sunday.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Get out.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Okay, Okay, you've been slept yet, so for you it's
still Sunday.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, I have I'm full energy, man, I'm fired. We
got ball over here to discuss. You know, Jeff, I
think and you tell me if you have a different
opinion here. But I think there was a popular opinion
a few months ago. It didn't make sense then. I
think it may even less sense now. That would be
Dion Sanders, right, the father of Shaduur Sanders. Shaduur played
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very well, all things considered, against the Panthers in his
preseason debut, but It made me think of all of
the opinions right before the draft and when Shador was falling.
First round came and went no, no draft pick. Second day,
the second, third rounds came and went no Shador. And
then people were like a lot of them were like,
(01:30):
you don't take Shador. You're gonna have to deal with
Dion Sanders, right, You're gonna have to deal with all
the opinions, all the things that he's gonna say. It's
a circus like atmosphere, yacht stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I know you heard it too.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, And if you look back now, what has Dion
done to cause waves?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
When has he gone to Twitter?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
When has he been in a press conference saying what
is what's going on with the Browns and my son
not getting first team raps? He hasn't said or we
did or done anything to cause any waves whatsoever. That
was such a silly thought at the time, and I
think it looks even sillier now.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
And actually, you know, Shudura said like I purposely like
have not had my dad around because of that reason. Yeah. Look,
I do think I do think it's it's fair to
to think, like, if you know Sanders, who was sick.
You know, if he wasn't sick, would that have changed
what his philosophy was towards you know, being present essentially?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Right?
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Yeah, which I'm glad he's very healthy. I guess very
healthy is wrong, but he's healthier now obviously that I
do wonder. I think when people were talking about that,
they use Dion as a proxy for the media, right,
because there are certainly a lot of people in the
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media who have Dion's side when it comes to anything
about Dion, right, And so I think it was less
about Like I never expected Dion standards to go on
Twitter and be like, why is this the fans keep
playing my son? But I did expect and do expect
his friends in the media to to to say to
say those things on ESPN.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, well that.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
And that's why. So I think it's it was less
about Dion to me. I think they just used Dion
as a proxy for like the media. So look, Josh
pay I'll give him a shout out. He does a
culture ball show, Josh Ba show. He's a great, great
culture ball guy. He he he is, like he had
the best way toscribe the phenomenon of like of Dion
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and how people talk about Colorado him and like Shaduro Okay,
he called it the Dion tax, right, where people that
typically don't talk about college football, or don't follow the sport,
or don't really pay attention to the inner workings of
what's actually happening, but they feel like they have to
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talk about it because it's a popular sports topic. The
Deon tax, right, and that that to me feels like
what it is all the time. It's people wanting to
have opinions about Shaudur Sanders, Deon Sanders, their family without
actually putting in the work to know the situation. I
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get back to the same thing with this. You know,
Deon excu is getting screwed by the Browns for having
to play a preseason game, like every other player ever
in the same exact spot of all time has the
same same spot. Right, you put a put Joe Smith,
fifth round quarterback in the exact same position, the exact
same thing would have happened, right, exact amount of reps,
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exact amount of work before the game. Everyone's hurt go
play fourth round quarterback like or fifth round quarterback that
it would have It would have mattered what his name was.
But people are out here just saying ridiculous things about
that situation that don't really know the inner work is.
And it's frustrating, by the way, when people that do
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know how it works also join the crowd of saying
how unfair it is. And you know, I that bothers
me because you can be a friend of Dean Sanders
and also acknowledge that this is how it goes. This
is how the NFL works. When you're a four string
quarterback as he is right now, you work your way
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up the depth chart. They draft him in the fifth round.
You could be upset about that, but that's over with.
That happened. That that happened, it's done. Now still talking
about that doesn't apply right now. What applies right now
is he's fourth string. He gets four string reps. You
might disagree with that, but this did nothing out of
the out of the ordinary, Brian. And now now because
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he played well, which I thought he would, then what
happens now now if you're upset because he has a
past Gabriel yet, well, Gabral hasn't even had a chance
to play yet, Brian. So it would be unfair to everyone,
I think, to not let Gabriel get one chance this week,
I would imagine to play to see who was better
in a game. I think again, I think Sanders will
be better. So it's just, you know, the Dion tax
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is a good way to put it, right, it's everyone
that just doesn't really follow the sport the way they
should that has to talk about him all the time.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Well, I would say, I do this with music quite
a bit, you know, where there will be people that
will hear a couple of the hit songs of a
certain band and they think they know the band, and
it's like, but you don't you know a couple of
the most popular songs. You don't know do you know
anything from this album?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Do you know anything? You don't even know what I'm
talking about?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Right?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Like that happens a lot in music, so I can
absolutely see that in sports as well.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
So that's the first thing.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
The other thing is there are a lot of people
that feel strongly one way or the other about Shadoor
Sanders and Dion Sanders, right. But that's the thing is
if you like them a lot, or them a lot,
if you dislike them a lot, I would say, don't
let like or dislike destroy your opinions, because that's happening
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a lot on both sides, whether you love them, you
hate them, whatever it happens to be, because you had
people saying, you know, I remember leading up to the draft,
some people were tweeting me like they obviously disliked Shaduur Sanders,
and they were like, Oh, this guy, it's all hype
the guy. He's not even accurate, He's not even tough.
I'm like, are you do you watch the Are you
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kidding me? Like those are two of his core traits.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
That's insanity. You just don't like him.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
And at the same rate, there are people that really
like Shador, really like Dion, and then it will turn
into oh, he's being set up to fail, like that's
born out of really liking him. It starts from a
good place, but it leads you to a bad spot.
So I would say, put whatever it is you're like
or dislike for Shade or Dion to decide, don't let
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it infiltrate your opinions. But there's a lot of that
going on on both sides of it.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
The reason why, to me, I always found it difficult
to be a hot take person, right who has to
just fire off these things and be so passionate in
one direction or the other. Is that you have to
backtrack very often. So for example, like if you came
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out after Segur played one game and said greatest thing ever,
he might play poorly next game, but Shimi Politz, he's
a rookie, and then you have to backtrack off that statement.
It's just taking it for what it was in game one,
which was fifth round pick playing with backups against mostly
backups who we know is very talented, Like he had
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a game that remnant that looked like a player who's
more talented than his opponents, which we all agree he is.
No one disagrees with that. So if you but if
you make it about see I told you guys, greatest quarterback,
how dare they and then he goes down and plays
poorly next week, you have to backtrack, Right, that's interesting.
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It's just analyzing it for for what it was. So
that's why not It's not really one of the reasons
I don't do it. But like, that's why I don't
just make definitive statements about about players after one preseason game.
It's why going on television and saying they're sat him
up to fail, you have to back I saw you know,
I saw r G three. He long tweet about it
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he was set up to fail, and then a long
tweet about how great he played. And I'm like everyone
everyone was like you said he was gonna fail. Like
you said he was gonna fail. How can you then
say he played you? So that that's my point, right,
Like if you if you do those things, then you
look dumb when you have to backtrack. And so people
have had the backtrack because they just the you have
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to say something, man, No, you don't you want to
say something every time. You surely don't have to.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's kind of funny.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
It's funny what you're saying right there, Jeff, because and
this is a smaller thing, but it does make me
think of Dion Sanders because he's done this before, and
he's not the type to backtrack, but he's he jumped
the gun a little bit at times, right where you
think back to his first win at Colorado, and remember
when ed Warder he was the reporter and apparently he
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wrote some things that Dion didn't like leading up to
the game, and then Dion famously said after they beat
TCU as like twenty one point underdogs or whatever, it
was he said this.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah, he was like, do you believe now?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
And then they ended up four and eight that season,
you know what I mean, Like, that's not a do
you believe now?
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Moment?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
That was a good win, a good win. That wasn't
you know, what do you have to say now? And
it made me think of this latest game, where again
he's a proud father.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
This is a small thing.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I get it, but sometimes you overreact a little bit.
Shaduor Sanders threw a second touchdown pass and Dion went
to X and tweeted.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Oh yeah, what now?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
And that's clearly a shot at the critics, you know, like,
it's obviously what it is.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
And it's like, to me, that's not a what now moment.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
That's a good performance in the first week of the preseason.
If if Shador is starting in the regular season and
I don't know, they go on the road to Baltimore
and he plays great and they somehow pull a stunning upset,
that's a what now moment? That's a what do you
have to say now?
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Moment?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I don't think the first game of the preseason is,
but hey man, it's not. Dion was excited and he
jumped the gun a little bit.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Right. Look, it's okay, as you mentioned it, like many
things are true, right, Like it's a great moment for him.
I get being a proud father. I'm obviously like a
you know, a dad, and I feel I feel that
in my core when you know, you say, for your
kids in athletics. But you're right, like he's setting himself
up for when if it doesn't happen quite the same
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way in game two. Now people are coming at Dion
and coming at his family, and that's why I think
just a measured approach for the most part, and to
your point, like if you do this in the regular season,
like heck, yeah, man, like right, put your chest out,
you know, brag, brag about like all those things are
absolutely true. But again, played well in game one. I
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hope he gets reps, better reps with better players. I
don't think that's gonna happen because I think Dylan Gabriel
still has to have a chance, I mean drafted him
in the third round like he did. Gabriel has to
have a chance to uh to get the job as well.
So I don't actually don't know if Sanders will get
a ton of reps with the ones anytime soon. I'm
curious how they how they end up splaying the reps
this weekend, so to see sort of where where we
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know where the competition is at.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, yeah, it will be interesting to see how it
comes along here.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
But that's the thing. That's the weird thing.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
You know, measured, it's probably the most accurate to have
a measured statement. Hey, good performance, Let's see what happens next.
This is the first game in the preseason. That's the
most logical statement correct, But measured doesn't get clicks, it
doesn't get a reaction, it doesn't get ratings.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
So you have to then.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Go to the next It's so messed up. How but whatever,
that's where it's the.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Way it is.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Speaking about Colorado though, you know we don't do much
college football here.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You're on the Underhuh it is.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
It's an under. It's an underseason for me with them,
it's actually one of my stronger plays for college football.
I just think there's a there's a lot they have
a lot of change. I think when you look at
I don't think so two things about Colorado quickly. One
is that we we didn't give Deon enough credit last
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year for how how well that team played. And the
reason why is because ye're one, you have the d
on tax. You had a bunch of people that were
blowing smoke every single week about their three week performance
and then you realize like, yeah, they won one conference
game afterwards, like they weren't actually that good that season,
but because everyone told us. Remember there was a tweet
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by fan Duel after week three that said who would
win or what a hypothetical line we between twenty nineteen
LSU and twenty twenty three Colorado. Oh my god, the
line would have been fifty eight and a half. Okay,
they would have won that game sixty five dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Oh all right, wow.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
And then last year when they actually were good, the
team was nine and three, like legitimately played well last season,
no one talked about it because there was you know,
all that energy was used up talking about them in
year one, and it actually didn't they they got their
their their due last year, but they replaced and then okay,
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So to continue my point, there's a talented team on offense,
Like look at the guys even contributing so far in
the preseason, Travis Hunter, durs Sanders Junior or Webster like
good football players. They just they lose so much. They
lose a Heisman winning corner who's also their best wide receiver.
They lost their other three top wide receivers, they lost
their quarterback, they replaced four offensive linemen in the portal.
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They lose their best pass rusher, their best linebacker, their
best their best now in their best cornerback, who's their
highs and winning wide receiver. Like they lose all these guys.
It's hard and comfortable to lose all that talent and
then replace it every year with portal players. It's just
it's nearly impossible to win if you continue to do that.
I think that's the problem with Colorado. They just the
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portal's great for the first couple of years as you
build up your your your roster, but at some point
you need to have high school players contribute, and there's
not enough of those guys in Colorado. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I think it's if you're comparing it to the NFL.
I think the portal is like free agency, and that's
great if you're adding some bells and whistles to your roster,
but you don't want to rely on it for your
core players, you know what I mean, Like you want
on an n PHIL roster. You want your core players
to be draft picks. You know, you want cheaper, younger talent,
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and then you supplement it with it with free agency.
But you don't want to live on free agency for
your core. And that's the thing in college too, you
don't want to live on the portal for your core.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I think it's going to come back to bite you.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
You don't. And what I found very interesting, So you know, Dion,
you had had the press conference right he was announcing that,
you know, he was with his medical team, and heading
into that was two mondays ago, I believe heading into
that the night before, I got a text message from
a couple of people who said, hey, like he's going
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to retire. He's gonna step down for health injuries, health concerns.
And their their win total was six and a half
and the Sharps they pounced. They they Colorado. You know,
it was under six and a half and like minus
one eighty five and then ended up going to five
and a half after all the Sharps hit it. And
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of course he ended up saying he's gonna coach, which
I thought was very funny, Like it's just I don't
know where the information comes from. But it was very clearly
wrong that situation. It's five and a half now the
win total.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Wow, So it stayed there? Interesting? Yeah, yeah, went down
a little bit.
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in the Marlins Braves game our girl Jen Powell. She
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became the first female umpire to work behind the plate
in a Major League Baseball game.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Props to her.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I really do think that's an awesome story like she
paid her due. So she was the miners for a
long time. We're talking like a decade in the miners
and worked all these games and then worked her way
up and she made it to the bigs, you know,
So props to her. Worked over twelve hundred games across
the decade in umpiraring in the minor league. So this
doesn't seem like, you know, all right, let's just get
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a female anyone will do. It doesn't seem like that
at all, So props to her. She the first woman
in over a century of Major League baseball to break
the gender barrier.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
That's a huge deal. So props to her on that.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
I love so much how she fit in so well
by calling a strike on the first pitch that was
a ball. It was. It was like, if you want
to fit in well with majoring umpires, have you know
her first her first punch out ball was a ball
off the plate, doesn't matter, strike three, it was. It
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was perfect. I saw people dogging her for that, and
I was like, well, I mean I watched CB Buckner yesterday,
same thing, Like okay, Like I watch these guys all
the time. Like she fit in perfectly with everyone else. Now,
her her scorecard. I followed this account that puts out
scorecards for umpires. I have not seen if they put
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out her scorecard yet. I'm kind of curious if they
put out her scorecard. I mean you normally it's like
a middle of the day thing. I'm kind of curious
they put out a score card for yesterday yet. And uh,
because I'm kind of curious to see. Here you go
umpire scorecard. I wonder if it's out yet from yesterday. No,
they haven't done the games yesterday yet, so you know
it'll be out later today. I'm kind of kind of
curious about what they like. Ye you go to I'll
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give a shout out. You go to their page from
the Mariners raise game two days ago. Like it has
an accuracy consistency call ball, you know, called accuracy. It
also has like did it help one team or the
other their calls? And actually and then it lists like
the actual impactful miscalls. It's good if you like. So,
I don't know if you know what it's about.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Me.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Brian, I umpired high school baseball while I was in
college in the summers for extra money. I am absolutely
going to umpire again when my kids go to college.
I will probably do like little league baseball, honestly, like
the the twelves at my little league like are really good,
and umpiring is sometimes questionable. So I'm gonna I'm gonna
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get you know, I'm gonna hop back in there. I
thought about doing it sooner than that, like maybe if
I have some free time, just like it's volunteer work.
You just have to buy the gear and just just
get in there, start calling balls and strikes.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Let's go cool, very cool. I like that.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
I would, I would do it.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
You would this how it sounded on a fan dual
sports network that first strike quote unquote that was off
the plate.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Here you go, Here we go.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Joey Wentz likes that first call from Jim Powell.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I like that. They'll take that all day, you know.
But you're right.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I like what you said, though, Jeff, because a lot
of people will make this a gender thing or a
Gen Powell thing. Plenty of male umpires are calling strikes
that are actually outside pitches right like not in the
strike zone.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
So this is a common thing.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
It's not easy, especially at that level with the movement,
the like how fast these bitches are coming in.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I'm not trying to sugarcoat anything.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I'm just saying it's not just like an isolated incident
with her.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
So there is a separate account called umpire Auditor. They
don't put out like graphics like the one I told
you about, but it says here that in our MLB
debut behind the Plate umpire Gen Powell missed the first
call of the game, but settle into call relatively unremarkable game.
She missed fourteen calls, correct call rate of ninety percent.
She was wearing thirteenth or fifteen umpires on the day.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Hmm, okay, so room for improvement, no doubt. I thought
she would have a tight strike zone. That was my
handicap for the game. That's why I like the over
the pitchers at high eras and I thought, it's exactly
what would happen, right if she calls an outside strike
that's really a ball, They're gonna be videos, They're gonna
be people clowning her.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
So I thought she'd have a really tight strike zone.
I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
It didn't turn out to be the case, but the
thought made sense to me. Here's the thing, though, too, Jeff,
is I read some of the postgame comments and a
couple of them stood out to me. Okay, so this
is Marlin's manager, Clayton mcclu How do you say this,
McCullough man, that's a good trivia. Who's the Marlins manager? Oh,
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Clayton McCullough.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Of course, when I watch all these baseball games, they
panted the manager, and I'm like, I, no, you have
no idea.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I know, no, I'm reading that name on the fly.
Clayton McCullough and the.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Marlins are actually playing like feisty baseball.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
They have, they've they've been really good for a little
while now. It started off terrible. They're respectable.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
His statements were what you would expect, you know, this
is sort of like, hey, Jen did a really nice job,
and they said, I think she's very composed back there.
She handled and managed the game very well. Big day
for her, big day for major League baseball, that sort
of thing, right. I congratulated her on the accomplishment, all
those sort of nice things that you would expect.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
But then there was.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
One comment he made that was total sugarcoating. There's no
other way to say it. So it was one of
the punch outs you were talking about. It was Kyle
Stower's and the ball was outside clearly not a strike,
and she rang them up. She punched him out and
McCullough was seen in the Marlins dugout with his palms
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held up, like.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
What the hell was that? Where was that blue? You know?
Speaker 3 (24:53):
And so he's asked about it after the game, Jeff
Lizabeth's comments.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
He goes, over the course of the.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Game, there are a number of times that you're just
going to ask for clarity on one if you aren't sure.
So it could have been that, really, dude, Like that's
what we're supposed to believe. I'm just asking for clarity. Uh,
miss missus umpire?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Like that is that? Was that really a strike? Was
it really? Just asking for clarity?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
This is the bigger picture, though, Jeff, and I hope
that we get here one day.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah, because I do want I want equality.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I want men to umpire, women to umpire if they're qualified,
you know, have at it.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Great, you know, let's all get in there.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
But here's the thing with equality, for anyone who's asking
for it, it's also the ugly stuff as well.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Correct correct, like absolutely, this is this is what the
WNBA is going through right now, or like you want
to be treated the same as the NBA, then you
have to be scrutinized and talked about that.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
That's right, that's exactly right.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
And I think about look, think about the anyone, like
all the players and managers. They don't care who is
calling balls. You can have you know, it doesn't matter
who's doing it right, as long as you do it well.
It's all the players Care's all the managers care about.
The players care. They don't care who's back there. And
so I understand, But then again you have to sort
(26:18):
of I understand the manager sort of giving a pandurin answer, Right,
I get it.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
I get it for day one, that's my thing. It's
the debut day one. So I get that a manager
doesn't want to come right out and just go in
on her on that day in particular. I get that,
But going forward, like you got to say what you
would say with a male umpire, Like if that ball
is outside and your guy gets rang up, you would
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have an issue with it, and you might be very
vocal about that. So you can't just tap dance around
it and sugarcoat it. Because it's a female back there.
That is not a quality. It's also the ugly stuff
as well.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
I agree. As we're talking about this, a story broke
that i'd like to get your opinion on because it's interesting.
The UFC agreed to a seven year deal. I'm gonna
make you guess how much this is exclusive US media
rights with Paramount and CBS.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
How much of the seven year deal is worth for
the UFC broadcasting rights?
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I would think it's a ton, but based on you
bringing it up, it's probably not as much.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
No, No, it is a lot more, is ever guessed?
Oh my god? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Well it's got to be in the billions range, like
multiple billions.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I have no idea how much.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Seven year seven point seven billion dollars?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah? Wow? So we got a build a billion a year?
Yeah wow, one point one per year.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
That that's that's like NBA, right, NBA, it's the NBA deal.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
The thing though, is it's funny, right, Like the bigger
picture is some of these fighters, for the biggest fights,
they don't make that much money at all in comparison
to the top headline boxers, you know, and it's never
an issue, do you hear UFC guys often being like,
oh man, we're so underpaid. You'll hear that here and there,
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but it is not harped on at all.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
No. I mean they're trying to They've been trying for
years to form a union.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Right.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
It's been like a huge problem they've had because they
get paid like nothing. Yeah, it's yeah, they don't get
paid as much as you would think. I think they
make a lot of the their money off the endorsements.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, they do. Absolutely, Are you fight guys?
Speaker 5 (28:31):
I don't watch a lot. I don't want watch a lot.
I'm going to my first fight on Friday, my first
ever my first ever MMA fight on Friday.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Oh really, okay, very nice?
Speaker 3 (28:38):
No, I love it, you know, I love you know.
I'm bigger in boxing, truth be told, than UFC. But
I'll go out quite a bit, Like I've gone out
numerous times with my girl and we'll watch you know,
UFC a lot of places around Vegas they'll have it
for free and we just go hang out and check
it out.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
So yeah, I dig.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Yeah, I'm going to you know, the PFL like they're
like the you know, like the my buddy does the
play by play guy. I did radio with Sean for
six years and so he's in Charlotte Friday, night. So
I'm going to my first ever MMA night.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Oh very cool, very cool. Well, by the way, there's
a old oh wear black. Just wear black. You know,
they can't go wrong that way. You know, it's a
fight night. You know, just to wear a black T shirt,
black pants is good.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Be decked out in black. You'll be fine. Everything will
work out great. Can't go wrong that way.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Okay, Yeah, I'm telling you that's the metal concert black,
all black, you know, MMA, all black, box and whatever.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
You'll be fine. Just do that. That's what I would suggest.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
That's my advice from Let's go there, you go go
see Lamba God right after you know past but sure.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Okay, uh.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
There was an old quote this about it about ten
years ago.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
You remember this.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
We're talking about, you know, equality, even with the ugly
stuff as well. Remember Chris Paul h basketball player. Might
be his final year in the NBA, but about.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Ten years ago.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
This is February of twenty fifteen, so more than ten
years ago. Remember when he got a technical foul and
it was from Lauren Holt Camp. She's a female official,
And after the game, he said, she gave me a tech.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
If that's the case, this might not be for her,
And oh my gosh, Jeff, like the Twitter police came in,
they came right after the juggler of Chris Paul over
there for saying this about Lauren Holt Camp. But to
me it applies to today as well. Can you not
see Chris Paul? Okay, it's a male official. He rings
(30:45):
up Chris Paul, and Chris Paul has a huge issue
with this. This is a terrible call. You can't see
Chris Paul. You can't hear Chris Paul postgame press conference
like that was ridiculous. If that's the case, this might
not be for him. You can't hear him. I'm saying
that you could. I could absolutely Chris Paul the way
he is, as fire as he is. This is not
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just like hating on a female official because she's female.
He'd say the same thing about a male official. So
that's the thing to me, is the same thing with Jen.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Powell right now.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
If you're going to be hating on the male umpire
for a bad strike zone, I don't want to hear
you sugarcoating stuff for the female strike zone either. That
that's not equal at all.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
I agree. I'm I'm you just treat them, treat them
all the same. Yeah, it's easy if you just do that,
treat them all the same, because again, I mean, they're
just trying to do the same job everyone else is
trying to do, right, I mean, it's not like Jen
Powell's trying to do anything extra. Just call balls and strikes, man,
that's all. It's all the matters. Just just get them
right and yeah, you just yeah, just that's the way.
(31:51):
That's the way, the best way, in my opinion, to
go about business.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah, we'll see going forward.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
If you know, I don't know if she's got the
outside strikes going on, and if there's a manager that
you watch Jeff, if he says, yeah, I didn't care
for the strike zone at all. Like what if crazy
Aaron Boone goes out there and just like reads her
the Riot Act and gets thrown out, it's gonna be
a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
So she's so I don't know how many more games
she's doing, right, She's just called up as a replacement.
So we'll see if she goes, how many more she has.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
It's like, you just have to break these silly walls
down again. I love that she's broken the gender barrier.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Yes, but it's like all.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
This silly stuff comes along with it, where you think
she's being treated unfairly.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
If Aaron Boone.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Went out there and his nose to nose with her
yelling at full volume, people would make it way more
than it actually is. He's doing that with male officials.
Why shouldn't he do that with a female umpire. You
know what I'm saying. It's the same thing.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
So Boone got tossed two days ago arguing balls and strikes.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Man, it was gotten tossed like forty four times or
something like that.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
He's He's Bobby Cox reincarnated. I just I love the
stories like Bobby Cox getting tossed on like the first
inning of a game that's one hundred and five degrees,
just to go sit and like drink a couple of
beers in the clubhouse out for what.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Was Leo Mazzoni just rocking back and for love? Miss?
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I find so many things about baseball so fascinating, but
like throwing the manager out as one.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Of them, Like yeah, right, sure, yeah you wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Like do you think the NFL coaches don't yell at
officials all the time.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
It's just different.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
It's like it's except we we would have drag out,
like cussing each other out with the umpire. You know
that's not a holy f you, but you know what,
it's like, screw you too, like back and forth like
and then then just like spot the ball and play football.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
In baseball, the manager out in basketball you can get
tossed right away.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
You can't get away with that, No.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
You just can't. And so it's interesting that that it's
just kind of different the way that those you know
that those kind of sports do the arguing with with
the officials. And I get maybe in basketball and baseball
because it's it's every day, it gets kind of annoying.
We're obviously in football is once a week, and so
it's a little easier to deal with, I think, But
it does always fascinate me how that tends to work
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out like that.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
By the way, Lee's leftovers coming up right around the corner.
Let me give you one stat line that caught my
attention from the preseason, Jeff, So before we get to
Lee's leftovers. So this was Graham Mertz. Okay, he's a
rookie with the Houston Texans. Sixth round pick, all right, yeah,
And is that line left a lot to be desired?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (34:44):
It's against the Vikings. Is Brian Florio's defense?
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
And is his first start seven for fourteen for twenty
seven yards with three picks that line right now? Now,
I'm not trying to pick on the guy. His first start,
he stunk it up. It is what it is. But
the reason I bring this up is that he was
the one hundred and ninety seventh pick and it just
made me think of Tom Brady.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Tom Brady was one ninety ninth.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Just got his statue, like twelve foot statue outside of
the Patriots stadium there right, Like, I'm not picking on Graham.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Mertz, but Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
What do you think the chances are that Graham Mertz
goes on to win seven Super Bowls and is like
the new Goat.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
You know what, That's what we had with Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
It's insanity that he had a career as great as that.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
And this is not throwing shade at Graham Mertz at all.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
It's just to show you that a guy that was
selected two draft picks ahead of Tom Brady where he
was picked, like, you have no expectations for Graham Mertz,
but that it's astounding that people will still somehow talk
trash about Tom Brady. It's the dumbest thing you could
do related to sports.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
It is surely because they just don't like Tom Brad
or the Patriots. But look, dude, what he did is
such an outlier. It'll never be done again. You know,
it was the perfect sort of fit between you know what,
what he could get done with what Belichick was able
to provide him from a coaching perspective. It will never
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be done again. It'll never be done again. You know,
I think I did this research earlier this year. I
think twenty eight of the thirty two starting quarterbacks right now,
our first round picks. Wow, And you know, I like
I didn't I only even included like Russell Wilson in
that discussion yet because they didn't have a you know,
not a guaranteed starter yet. But so maybe it's twenty
(36:40):
seven now, okay, But like got it's that's what it is.
That's what the sport is. It's it's first round quarterbacks.
I mean, the only ones that are not it's it's
Jalen Hurts, Dak Prescott, Russell Wilson. I guess Tyler Shock
it would be one he ends up starting. Whoever touched
for the Saints won't be a first round pick. And
then I even know who was, probably someone else I'm
(37:01):
leaving out, but like that's oh gino.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Pretty pretty.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Twenty six then yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Yeah, some of these guys that aren't even good or
for like you're going like Daniel Jones.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Oh gosh, you know, well either there, I mean either
or Dan or Richards.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Yeah first yeah, yeah, craziness. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know,
so a sixth rounder to win seven Super Bowls and
some people may, oh yeah they had home field advantage.
Oh my gosh, shut up, stop talking about anything football related.
All right, we gotta go. We got Lee's leftovers right
around the corner. He's Chef Schwartz. I'm Brian No. We're
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Speaker 2 (38:38):
All right, let's dive right into this.
Speaker 7 (38:40):
Do please might smell a little fun incredible, but they're
still good. Time to find out what lack's Lee's laos?
Speaker 2 (38:52):
All right, Lee, what do you have for us? Man?
Speaker 8 (38:55):
Eight hours of Jimmy? Sign me up, guys. In case
you missed this over the weekend. I know we're big
NASCAR fans here, and if so much so that we
were watching the Infinity Race on Saturday, you might have
actually missed this. The winner, Connor Zilich, who was a
pretty good racer apparently six races won this uh this season.
While he was celebrating getting out the window, putting his
hands up in the air, but his leg gets caught
(39:16):
in the window and he falls down, breaks his collar bone.
Scary scene, kind of like you almost want to laugh
at first, but then yeah, he hits hard and he
doesn't get out.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Man, that was nasty. Did you see that, Jeff? Those crazy?
Speaker 5 (39:29):
It was It's never I mean we've seen that before.
It was it was kind of wild.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yeah, he hit hard. I'm just glad he's okay. I mean,
you take a broken collarbone. Eguld have been way worse.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah, that's tough. That's tough. Guys.
Speaker 8 (39:42):
We were, uh, we're talking about history in the MLB.
We were talking about Jen Powell umpiring in that game
this weekend. I don't know if you caught this. It
was Bill vec Knight for the White Sox that were
celebrating their their former owner. Lots of stuff going on there.
You had a one minute wedding, You had a petting
zoo with slots and whatnot in the outfield. Also had
a record breaking fifty foot glizzy Chicago style hot dog
(40:05):
out there if you wanted to take a picture, hit
your haircut.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Apparently I saw that they used a ton of mustard
on that. You sure did. It's terrible. Twenty one members
never used mustard on a hot dog. It's a terrible idea.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
The name GLIZZI I thought we tired at some point.
Speaker 8 (40:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess it's kind of new. I
thought it was maybe an old term, but.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
It is kind of older. Actually, it's a few years.
People in New Jersey have been saying it for a
long time. Interesting.
Speaker 8 (40:37):
Yeah, guys, I don't know if you've got a chance
to watch it. But an impressive weekend for the R
rated horror movie Weapons debut at forty two and a
half million, beaten out Freak Your Friday, which had a
twenty nine million dollar opening.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Go see Weapons. Great movie if you can get a chance.
And then a happy birthday to Hult Cogan.
Speaker 8 (40:53):
Obviously rest in Peace Holky would have been seventy two today.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Okay, I know Justin Cooper, who's Ben Maller's producer, saw Weapons,
and so that was pretty crazy.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Two thumbs up. Alright, good stuff, good hanging with you,
Jeff and the crew. Love you. Guys have a good day.
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Speaker 3 (00:34):
What is going on? Happy Monday to you? As I
messed up and said, Happy Sunday.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Get out.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Okay, Okay, you've been slept yet, so for you it's
still Sunday.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, I have I'm full energy, man, I'm fired. We
got ball over here to discuss. You know, Jeff, I
think and you tell me if you have a different
opinion here. But I think there was a popular opinion
a few months ago. It didn't make sense then. I
think it may even less sense now. That would be
Dion Sanders, right, the father of Shaduur Sanders. Shaduur played
(01:08):
very well, all things considered, against the Panthers in his
preseason debut, but It made me think of all of
the opinions right before the draft and when Shador was falling.
First round came and went no, no draft pick. Second day,
the second, third rounds came and went no Shador. And
then people were like a lot of them were like,
(01:30):
you don't take Shador. You're gonna have to deal with
Dion Sanders, right, You're gonna have to deal with all
the opinions, all the things that he's gonna say. It's
a circus like atmosphere, yacht stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I know you heard it too.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, And if you look back now, what has Dion
done to cause waves?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
When has he gone to Twitter?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
When has he been in a press conference saying what
is what's going on with the Browns and my son
not getting first team raps? He hasn't said or we
did or done anything to cause any waves whatsoever. That
was such a silly thought at the time, and I
think it looks even sillier now.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
And actually, you know, Shudura said like I purposely like
have not had my dad around because of that reason. Yeah. Look,
I do think I do think it's it's fair to
to think, like, if you know Sanders, who was sick.
You know, if he wasn't sick, would that have changed
what his philosophy was towards you know, being present essentially?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Right?
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Yeah, which I'm glad he's very healthy. I guess very
healthy is wrong, but he's healthier now obviously that I
do wonder. I think when people were talking about that,
they use Dion as a proxy for the media, right,
because there are certainly a lot of people in the
(02:53):
media who have Dion's side when it comes to anything
about Dion, right, And so I think it was less
about Like I never expected Dion standards to go on
Twitter and be like, why is this the fans keep
playing my son? But I did expect and do expect
his friends in the media to to to say to
say those things on ESPN.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, well that.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
And that's why. So I think it's it was less
about Dion to me. I think they just used Dion
as a proxy for like the media. So look, Josh
pay I'll give him a shout out. He does a
culture ball show, Josh Ba show. He's a great, great
culture ball guy. He he he is, like he had
the best way toscribe the phenomenon of like of Dion
(03:37):
and how people talk about Colorado him and like Shaduro Okay,
he called it the Dion tax, right, where people that
typically don't talk about college football, or don't follow the sport,
or don't really pay attention to the inner workings of
what's actually happening, but they feel like they have to
(04:00):
talk about it because it's a popular sports topic. The
Deon tax, right, and that that to me feels like
what it is all the time. It's people wanting to
have opinions about Shaudur Sanders, Deon Sanders, their family without
actually putting in the work to know the situation. I
(04:21):
get back to the same thing with this. You know,
Deon excu is getting screwed by the Browns for having
to play a preseason game, like every other player ever
in the same exact spot of all time has the
same same spot. Right, you put a put Joe Smith,
fifth round quarterback in the exact same position, the exact
same thing would have happened, right, exact amount of reps,
(04:44):
exact amount of work before the game. Everyone's hurt go
play fourth round quarterback like or fifth round quarterback that
it would have It would have mattered what his name was.
But people are out here just saying ridiculous things about
that situation that don't really know the inner work is.
And it's frustrating, by the way, when people that do
(05:04):
know how it works also join the crowd of saying
how unfair it is. And you know, I that bothers
me because you can be a friend of Dean Sanders
and also acknowledge that this is how it goes. This
is how the NFL works. When you're a four string
quarterback as he is right now, you work your way
(05:25):
up the depth chart. They draft him in the fifth round.
You could be upset about that, but that's over with.
That happened. That that happened, it's done. Now still talking
about that doesn't apply right now. What applies right now
is he's fourth string. He gets four string reps. You
might disagree with that, but this did nothing out of
the out of the ordinary, Brian. And now now because
(05:46):
he played well, which I thought he would, then what
happens now now if you're upset because he has a
past Gabriel yet, well, Gabral hasn't even had a chance
to play yet, Brian. So it would be unfair to everyone,
I think, to not let Gabriel get one chance this week,
I would imagine to play to see who was better
in a game. I think again, I think Sanders will
be better. So it's just, you know, the Dion tax
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is a good way to put it, right, it's everyone
that just doesn't really follow the sport the way they
should that has to talk about him all the time.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Well, I would say, I do this with music quite
a bit, you know, where there will be people that
will hear a couple of the hit songs of a
certain band and they think they know the band, and
it's like, but you don't you know a couple of
the most popular songs. You don't know do you know
anything from this album?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Do you know anything? You don't even know what I'm
talking about?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Right?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Like that happens a lot in music, so I can
absolutely see that in sports as well.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
So that's the first thing.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
The other thing is there are a lot of people
that feel strongly one way or the other about Shadoor
Sanders and Dion Sanders, right. But that's the thing is
if you like them a lot, or them a lot,
if you dislike them a lot, I would say, don't
let like or dislike destroy your opinions, because that's happening
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a lot on both sides, whether you love them, you
hate them, whatever it happens to be, because you had
people saying, you know, I remember leading up to the draft,
some people were tweeting me like they obviously disliked Shaduur Sanders,
and they were like, Oh, this guy, it's all hype
the guy. He's not even accurate, He's not even tough.
I'm like, are you do you watch the Are you
(07:30):
kidding me? Like those are two of his core traits.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
That's insanity. You just don't like him.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
And at the same rate, there are people that really
like Shador, really like Dion, and then it will turn
into oh, he's being set up to fail, like that's
born out of really liking him. It starts from a
good place, but it leads you to a bad spot.
So I would say, put whatever it is you're like
or dislike for Shade or Dion to decide, don't let
(07:56):
it infiltrate your opinions. But there's a lot of that
going on on both sides of it.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
The reason why, to me, I always found it difficult
to be a hot take person, right who has to
just fire off these things and be so passionate in
one direction or the other. Is that you have to
backtrack very often. So for example, like if you came
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out after Segur played one game and said greatest thing ever,
he might play poorly next game, but Shimi Politz, he's
a rookie, and then you have to backtrack off that statement.
It's just taking it for what it was in game one,
which was fifth round pick playing with backups against mostly
backups who we know is very talented, Like he had
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a game that remnant that looked like a player who's
more talented than his opponents, which we all agree he is.
No one disagrees with that. So if you but if
you make it about see I told you guys, greatest quarterback,
how dare they and then he goes down and plays
poorly next week, you have to backtrack, Right, that's interesting.
(09:07):
It's just analyzing it for for what it was. So
that's why not It's not really one of the reasons
I don't do it. But like, that's why I don't
just make definitive statements about about players after one preseason game.
It's why going on television and saying they're sat him
up to fail, you have to back I saw you know,
I saw r G three. He long tweet about it
(09:28):
he was set up to fail, and then a long
tweet about how great he played. And I'm like everyone
everyone was like you said he was gonna fail. Like
you said he was gonna fail. How can you then
say he played you? So that that's my point, right,
Like if you if you do those things, then you
look dumb when you have to backtrack. And so people
have had the backtrack because they just the you have
(09:50):
to say something, man, No, you don't you want to
say something every time. You surely don't have to.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It's kind of funny.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
It's funny what you're saying right there, Jeff, because and
this is a smaller thing, but it does make me
think of Dion Sanders because he's done this before, and
he's not the type to backtrack, but he's he jumped
the gun a little bit at times, right where you
think back to his first win at Colorado, and remember
when ed Warder he was the reporter and apparently he
(10:18):
wrote some things that Dion didn't like leading up to
the game, and then Dion famously said after they beat
TCU as like twenty one point underdogs or whatever, it
was he said this.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah, he was like, do you believe now?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
And then they ended up four and eight that season,
you know what I mean, Like, that's not a do
you believe now?
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Moment?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
That was a good win, a good win. That wasn't
you know, what do you have to say now? And
it made me think of this latest game, where again
he's a proud father.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
This is a small thing.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I get it, but sometimes you overreact a little bit.
Shaduor Sanders threw a second touchdown pass and Dion went
to X and tweeted.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Oh yeah, what now?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
And that's clearly a shot at the critics, you know, like,
it's obviously what it is.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
And it's like, to me, that's not a what now moment.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
That's a good performance in the first week of the preseason.
If if Shador is starting in the regular season and
I don't know, they go on the road to Baltimore
and he plays great and they somehow pull a stunning upset,
that's a what now moment? That's a what do you
have to say now?
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Moment?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I don't think the first game of the preseason is,
but hey man, it's not. Dion was excited and he
jumped the gun a little bit.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Right. Look, it's okay, as you mentioned it, like many
things are true, right, Like it's a great moment for him.
I get being a proud father. I'm obviously like a
you know, a dad, and I feel I feel that
in my core when you know, you say, for your
kids in athletics. But you're right, like he's setting himself
up for when if it doesn't happen quite the same
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way in game two. Now people are coming at Dion
and coming at his family, and that's why I think
just a measured approach for the most part, and to
your point, like if you do this in the regular season,
like heck, yeah, man, like right, put your chest out,
you know, brag, brag about like all those things are
absolutely true. But again, played well in game one. I
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hope he gets reps, better reps with better players. I
don't think that's gonna happen because I think Dylan Gabriel
still has to have a chance, I mean drafted him
in the third round like he did. Gabriel has to
have a chance to uh to get the job as well.
So I don't actually don't know if Sanders will get
a ton of reps with the ones anytime soon. I'm
curious how they how they end up splaying the reps
this weekend, so to see sort of where where we
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know where the competition is at.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, yeah, it will be interesting to see how it
comes along here.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
But that's the thing. That's the weird thing.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
You know, measured, it's probably the most accurate to have
a measured statement. Hey, good performance, Let's see what happens next.
This is the first game in the preseason. That's the
most logical statement correct, But measured doesn't get clicks, it
doesn't get a reaction, it doesn't get ratings.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
So you have to then.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Go to the next It's so messed up. How but whatever,
that's where it's the.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Way it is.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Speaking about Colorado though, you know we don't do much
college football here.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
You're on the Underhuh it is.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
It's an under. It's an underseason for me with them,
it's actually one of my stronger plays for college football.
I just think there's a there's a lot they have
a lot of change. I think when you look at
I don't think so two things about Colorado quickly. One
is that we we didn't give Deon enough credit last
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year for how how well that team played. And the
reason why is because ye're one, you have the d
on tax. You had a bunch of people that were
blowing smoke every single week about their three week performance
and then you realize like, yeah, they won one conference
game afterwards, like they weren't actually that good that season,
but because everyone told us. Remember there was a tweet
(14:11):
by fan Duel after week three that said who would
win or what a hypothetical line we between twenty nineteen
LSU and twenty twenty three Colorado. Oh my god, the
line would have been fifty eight and a half. Okay,
they would have won that game sixty five dollars.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Oh all right, wow.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
And then last year when they actually were good, the
team was nine and three, like legitimately played well last season,
no one talked about it because there was you know,
all that energy was used up talking about them in
year one, and it actually didn't they they got their
their their due last year, but they replaced and then okay,
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So to continue my point, there's a talented team on offense,
Like look at the guys even contributing so far in
the preseason, Travis Hunter, durs Sanders Junior or Webster like
good football players. They just they lose so much. They
lose a Heisman winning corner who's also their best wide receiver.
They lost their other three top wide receivers, they lost
their quarterback, they replaced four offensive linemen in the portal.
(15:15):
They lose their best pass rusher, their best linebacker, their
best their best now in their best cornerback, who's their
highs and winning wide receiver. Like they lose all these guys.
It's hard and comfortable to lose all that talent and
then replace it every year with portal players. It's just
it's nearly impossible to win if you continue to do that.
I think that's the problem with Colorado. They just the
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portal's great for the first couple of years as you
build up your your your roster, but at some point
you need to have high school players contribute, and there's
not enough of those guys in Colorado. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I think it's if you're comparing it to the NFL.
I think the portal is like free agency, and that's
great if you're adding some bells and whistles to your roster,
but you don't want to rely on it for your
core players, you know what I mean, Like you want
on an n PHIL roster. You want your core players
to be draft picks. You know, you want cheaper, younger talent,
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and then you supplement it with it with free agency.
But you don't want to live on free agency for
your core. And that's the thing in college too, you
don't want to live on the portal for your core.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I think it's going to come back to bite you.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
You don't. And what I found very interesting, So you know, Dion,
you had had the press conference right he was announcing that,
you know, he was with his medical team, and heading
into that was two mondays ago, I believe heading into
that the night before, I got a text message from
a couple of people who said, hey, like he's going
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to retire. He's gonna step down for health injuries, health concerns.
And their their win total was six and a half
and the Sharps they pounced. They they Colorado. You know,
it was under six and a half and like minus
one eighty five and then ended up going to five
and a half after all the Sharps hit it. And
(17:02):
of course he ended up saying he's gonna coach, which
I thought was very funny, Like it's just I don't
know where the information comes from. But it was very clearly
wrong that situation. It's five and a half now the
win total.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Wow, So it stayed there? Interesting? Yeah, yeah, went down
a little bit.
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They make sleep easy. So we had history yesterday, Jeff
in the Marlins Braves game our girl Jen Powell. She
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became the first female umpire to work behind the plate
in a Major League Baseball game.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Props to her.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I really do think that's an awesome story like she
paid her due. So she was the miners for a
long time. We're talking like a decade in the miners
and worked all these games and then worked her way
up and she made it to the bigs, you know,
So props to her. Worked over twelve hundred games across
the decade in umpiraring in the minor league. So this
doesn't seem like, you know, all right, let's just get
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a female anyone will do. It doesn't seem like that
at all, So props to her. She the first woman
in over a century of Major League baseball to break
the gender barrier.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
That's a huge deal. So props to her on that.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
I love so much how she fit in so well
by calling a strike on the first pitch that was
a ball. It was. It was like, if you want
to fit in well with majoring umpires, have you know
her first her first punch out ball was a ball
off the plate, doesn't matter, strike three, it was. It
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was perfect. I saw people dogging her for that, and
I was like, well, I mean I watched CB Buckner yesterday,
same thing, Like okay, Like I watch these guys all
the time. Like she fit in perfectly with everyone else. Now,
her her scorecard. I followed this account that puts out
scorecards for umpires. I have not seen if they put
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out her scorecard yet. I'm kind of curious if they
put out her scorecard. I mean you normally it's like
a middle of the day thing. I'm kind of curious
they put out a score card for yesterday yet. And uh,
because I'm kind of curious to see. Here you go
umpire scorecard. I wonder if it's out yet from yesterday. No,
they haven't done the games yesterday yet, so you know
it'll be out later today. I'm kind of kind of
curious about what they like. Ye you go to I'll
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give a shout out. You go to their page from
the Mariners raise game two days ago. Like it has
an accuracy consistency call ball, you know, called accuracy. It
also has like did it help one team or the
other their calls? And actually and then it lists like
the actual impactful miscalls. It's good if you like. So,
I don't know if you know what it's about.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Me.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
Brian, I umpired high school baseball while I was in
college in the summers for extra money. I am absolutely
going to umpire again when my kids go to college.
I will probably do like little league baseball, honestly, like
the the twelves at my little league like are really good,
and umpiring is sometimes questionable. So I'm gonna I'm gonna
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get you know, I'm gonna hop back in there. I
thought about doing it sooner than that, like maybe if
I have some free time, just like it's volunteer work.
You just have to buy the gear and just just
get in there, start calling balls and strikes.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Let's go cool, very cool. I like that.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
I would, I would do it.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
You would this how it sounded on a fan dual
sports network that first strike quote unquote that was off
the plate.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Here you go, Here we go.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Joey Wentz likes that first call from Jim Powell.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I like that. They'll take that all day, you know.
But you're right.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
I like what you said, though, Jeff, because a lot
of people will make this a gender thing or a
Gen Powell thing. Plenty of male umpires are calling strikes
that are actually outside pitches right like not in the
strike zone.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
So this is a common thing.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
It's not easy, especially at that level with the movement,
the like how fast these bitches are coming in.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I'm not trying to sugarcoat anything.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I'm just saying it's not just like an isolated incident
with her.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
So there is a separate account called umpire Auditor. They
don't put out like graphics like the one I told
you about, but it says here that in our MLB
debut behind the Plate umpire Gen Powell missed the first
call of the game, but settle into call relatively unremarkable game.
She missed fourteen calls, correct call rate of ninety percent.
She was wearing thirteenth or fifteen umpires on the day.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Hmm, okay, so room for improvement, no doubt. I thought
she would have a tight strike zone. That was my
handicap for the game. That's why I like the over
the pitchers at high eras and I thought, it's exactly
what would happen, right if she calls an outside strike
that's really a ball, They're gonna be videos, They're gonna
be people clowning her.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
So I thought she'd have a really tight strike zone.
I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
It didn't turn out to be the case, but the
thought made sense to me. Here's the thing, though, too, Jeff,
is I read some of the postgame comments and a
couple of them stood out to me. Okay, so this
is Marlin's manager, Clayton mcclu How do you say this,
McCullough man, that's a good trivia. Who's the Marlins manager? Oh,
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Clayton McCullough.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Of course, when I watch all these baseball games, they
panted the manager, and I'm like, I, no, you have
no idea.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I know, no, I'm reading that name on the fly.
Clayton McCullough and the.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Marlins are actually playing like feisty baseball.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
They have, they've they've been really good for a little
while now. It started off terrible. They're respectable.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
His statements were what you would expect, you know, this
is sort of like, hey, Jen did a really nice job,
and they said, I think she's very composed back there.
She handled and managed the game very well. Big day
for her, big day for major League baseball, that sort
of thing, right. I congratulated her on the accomplishment, all
those sort of nice things that you would expect.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
But then there was.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
One comment he made that was total sugarcoating. There's no
other way to say it. So it was one of
the punch outs you were talking about. It was Kyle
Stower's and the ball was outside clearly not a strike,
and she rang them up. She punched him out and
McCullough was seen in the Marlins dugout with his palms
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held up, like.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
What the hell was that? Where was that blue? You know?
Speaker 3 (24:53):
And so he's asked about it after the game, Jeff
Lizabeth's comments.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
He goes, over the course of the.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Game, there are a number of times that you're just
going to ask for clarity on one if you aren't sure.
So it could have been that, really, dude, Like that's
what we're supposed to believe. I'm just asking for clarity. Uh,
miss missus umpire?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Like that is that? Was that really a strike? Was
it really? Just asking for clarity?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
This is the bigger picture, though, Jeff, and I hope
that we get here one day.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah, because I do want I want equality.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I want men to umpire, women to umpire if they're qualified,
you know, have at it.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Great, you know, let's all get in there.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
But here's the thing with equality, for anyone who's asking
for it, it's also the ugly stuff as well.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Correct correct, like absolutely, this is this is what the
WNBA is going through right now, or like you want
to be treated the same as the NBA, then you
have to be scrutinized and talked about that.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
That's right, that's exactly right.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
And I think about look, think about the anyone, like
all the players and managers. They don't care who is
calling balls. You can have you know, it doesn't matter
who's doing it right, as long as you do it well.
It's all the players Care's all the managers care about.
The players care. They don't care who's back there. And
so I understand, But then again you have to sort
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of I understand the manager sort of giving a pandurin answer, Right,
I get it.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
I get it for day one, that's my thing. It's
the debut day one. So I get that a manager
doesn't want to come right out and just go in
on her on that day in particular. I get that,
But going forward, like you got to say what you
would say with a male umpire, Like if that ball
is outside and your guy gets rang up, you would
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have an issue with it, and you might be very
vocal about that. So you can't just tap dance around
it and sugarcoat it. Because it's a female back there.
That is not a quality. It's also the ugly stuff
as well.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
I agree. As we're talking about this, a story broke
that i'd like to get your opinion on because it's interesting.
The UFC agreed to a seven year deal. I'm gonna
make you guess how much this is exclusive US media
rights with Paramount and CBS.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (27:15):
How much of the seven year deal is worth for
the UFC broadcasting rights?
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I would think it's a ton, but based on you
bringing it up, it's probably not as much.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
No, No, it is a lot more, is ever guessed?
Oh my god? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Well it's got to be in the billions range, like
multiple billions.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
I have no idea how much.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Seven year seven point seven billion dollars?
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah? Wow? So we got a build a billion a year?
Yeah wow, one point one per year.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
That that's that's like NBA, right, NBA, it's the NBA deal.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
The thing though, is it's funny, right, Like the bigger
picture is some of these fighters, for the biggest fights,
they don't make that much money at all in comparison
to the top headline boxers, you know, and it's never
an issue, do you hear UFC guys often being like,
oh man, we're so underpaid. You'll hear that here and there,
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but it is not harped on at all.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
No. I mean they're trying to They've been trying for
years to form a union.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Right.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
It's been like a huge problem they've had because they
get paid like nothing. Yeah, it's yeah, they don't get
paid as much as you would think. I think they
make a lot of the their money off the endorsements.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, they do. Absolutely, Are you fight guys?
Speaker 5 (28:31):
I don't watch a lot. I don't want watch a lot.
I'm going to my first fight on Friday, my first
ever my first ever MMA fight on Friday.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Oh really, okay, very nice?
Speaker 3 (28:38):
No, I love it, you know, I love you know.
I'm bigger in boxing, truth be told, than UFC. But
I'll go out quite a bit, Like I've gone out
numerous times with my girl and we'll watch you know,
UFC a lot of places around Vegas they'll have it
for free and we just go hang out and check
it out.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
So yeah, I dig.
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Yeah, I'm going to you know, the PFL like they're
like the you know, like the my buddy does the
play by play guy. I did radio with Sean for
six years and so he's in Charlotte Friday, night. So
I'm going to my first ever MMA night.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Oh very cool, very cool. Well, by the way, there's
a old oh wear black. Just wear black. You know,
they can't go wrong that way. You know, it's a
fight night. You know, just to wear a black T shirt,
black pants is good.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Be decked out in black. You'll be fine. Everything will
work out great. Can't go wrong that way.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Okay, Yeah, I'm telling you that's the metal concert black,
all black, you know, MMA, all black, box and whatever.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
You'll be fine. Just do that. That's what I would suggest.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
That's my advice from Let's go there, you go go
see Lamba God right after you know past but sure.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Okay, uh.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
There was an old quote this about it about ten
years ago.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
You remember this.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
We're talking about, you know, equality, even with the ugly
stuff as well. Remember Chris Paul h basketball player. Might
be his final year in the NBA, but about.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Ten years ago.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
This is February of twenty fifteen, so more than ten
years ago. Remember when he got a technical foul and
it was from Lauren Holt Camp. She's a female official,
And after the game, he said, she gave me a tech.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
If that's the case, this might not be for her,
And oh my gosh, Jeff, like the Twitter police came in,
they came right after the juggler of Chris Paul over
there for saying this about Lauren Holt Camp. But to
me it applies to today as well. Can you not
see Chris Paul? Okay, it's a male official. He rings
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up Chris Paul, and Chris Paul has a huge issue
with this. This is a terrible call. You can't see
Chris Paul. You can't hear Chris Paul postgame press conference
like that was ridiculous. If that's the case, this might
not be for him. You can't hear him. I'm saying
that you could. I could absolutely Chris Paul the way
he is, as fire as he is. This is not
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just like hating on a female official because she's female.
He'd say the same thing about a male official. So
that's the thing to me, is the same thing with Jen.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Powell right now.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
If you're going to be hating on the male umpire
for a bad strike zone, I don't want to hear
you sugarcoating stuff for the female strike zone either. That
that's not equal at all.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
I agree. I'm I'm you just treat them, treat them
all the same. Yeah, it's easy if you just do that,
treat them all the same, because again, I mean, they're
just trying to do the same job everyone else is
trying to do, right, I mean, it's not like Jen
Powell's trying to do anything extra. Just call balls and strikes, man,
that's all. It's all the matters. Just just get them
right and yeah, you just yeah, just that's the way.
(31:51):
That's the way, the best way, in my opinion, to
go about business.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah, we'll see going forward.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
If you know, I don't know if she's got the
outside strikes going on, and if there's a manager that
you watch Jeff, if he says, yeah, I didn't care
for the strike zone at all. Like what if crazy
Aaron Boone goes out there and just like reads her
the Riot Act and gets thrown out, it's gonna be
a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
So she's so I don't know how many more games
she's doing, right, She's just called up as a replacement.
So we'll see if she goes, how many more she has.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
It's like, you just have to break these silly walls
down again. I love that she's broken the gender barrier.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Yes, but it's like all.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
This silly stuff comes along with it, where you think
she's being treated unfairly.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
If Aaron Boone.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Went out there and his nose to nose with her
yelling at full volume, people would make it way more
than it actually is. He's doing that with male officials.
Why shouldn't he do that with a female umpire. You
know what I'm saying. It's the same thing.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
So Boone got tossed two days ago arguing balls and strikes.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Man, it was gotten tossed like forty four times or
something like that.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
He's He's Bobby Cox reincarnated. I just I love the
stories like Bobby Cox getting tossed on like the first
inning of a game that's one hundred and five degrees,
just to go sit and like drink a couple of
beers in the clubhouse out for what.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Was Leo Mazzoni just rocking back and for love? Miss?
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I find so many things about baseball so fascinating, but
like throwing the manager out as one.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Of them, Like yeah, right, sure, yeah you wouldn't.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
Like do you think the NFL coaches don't yell at
officials all the time.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
It's just different.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
It's like it's except we we would have drag out,
like cussing each other out with the umpire. You know
that's not a holy f you, but you know what,
it's like, screw you too, like back and forth like
and then then just like spot the ball and play football.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
In baseball, the manager out in basketball you can get
tossed right away.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
You can't get away with that, No.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
You just can't. And so it's interesting that that it's
just kind of different the way that those you know
that those kind of sports do the arguing with with
the officials. And I get maybe in basketball and baseball
because it's it's every day, it gets kind of annoying.
We're obviously in football is once a week, and so
it's a little easier to deal with, I think, But
it does always fascinate me how that tends to work
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out like that.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
By the way, Lee's leftovers coming up right around the corner.
Let me give you one stat line that caught my
attention from the preseason, Jeff, So before we get to
Lee's leftovers. So this was Graham Mertz. Okay, he's a
rookie with the Houston Texans. Sixth round pick, all right, yeah,
And is that line left a lot to be desired?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (34:44):
It's against the Vikings. Is Brian Florio's defense?
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
And is his first start seven for fourteen for twenty
seven yards with three picks that line right now? Now,
I'm not trying to pick on the guy. His first start,
he stunk it up. It is what it is. But
the reason I bring this up is that he was
the one hundred and ninety seventh pick and it just
made me think of Tom Brady.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Tom Brady was one ninety ninth.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Just got his statue, like twelve foot statue outside of
the Patriots stadium there right, Like, I'm not picking on Graham.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Mertz, but Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
What do you think the chances are that Graham Mertz
goes on to win seven Super Bowls and is like
the new Goat.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
You know what, That's what we had with Tom Brady.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
It's insanity that he had a career as great as that.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
And this is not throwing shade at Graham Mertz at all.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
It's just to show you that a guy that was
selected two draft picks ahead of Tom Brady where he
was picked, like, you have no expectations for Graham Mertz,
but that it's astounding that people will still somehow talk
trash about Tom Brady. It's the dumbest thing you could
do related to sports.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
It is surely because they just don't like Tom Brad
or the Patriots. But look, dude, what he did is
such an outlier. It'll never be done again. You know,
it was the perfect sort of fit between you know what,
what he could get done with what Belichick was able
to provide him from a coaching perspective. It will never
(36:18):
be done again. It'll never be done again. You know,
I think I did this research earlier this year. I
think twenty eight of the thirty two starting quarterbacks right now,
our first round picks. Wow, And you know, I like
I didn't I only even included like Russell Wilson in
that discussion yet because they didn't have a you know,
not a guaranteed starter yet. But so maybe it's twenty
(36:40):
seven now, okay, But like got it's that's what it is.
That's what the sport is. It's it's first round quarterbacks.
I mean, the only ones that are not it's it's
Jalen Hurts, Dak Prescott, Russell Wilson. I guess Tyler Shock
it would be one he ends up starting. Whoever touched
for the Saints won't be a first round pick. And
then I even know who was, probably someone else I'm
(37:01):
leaving out, but like that's oh gino.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Pretty pretty.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Twenty six then yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Yeah, some of these guys that aren't even good or
for like you're going like Daniel Jones.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Oh gosh, you know, well either there, I mean either
or Dan or Richards.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Yeah first yeah, yeah, craziness. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know,
so a sixth rounder to win seven Super Bowls and
some people may, oh yeah they had home field advantage.
Oh my gosh, shut up, stop talking about anything football related.
All right, we gotta go. We got Lee's leftovers right
around the corner. He's Chef Schwartz. I'm Brian No. We're
(37:42):
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Speaker 4 (37:46):
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Speaker 2 (37:57):
It is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff's short.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
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background right there.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
All right, let's dive right into this.
Speaker 7 (38:40):
Do please might smell a little fun incredible, but they're
still good. Time to find out what lack's Lee's laos?
Speaker 2 (38:52):
All right, Lee, what do you have for us? Man?
Speaker 8 (38:55):
Eight hours of Jimmy? Sign me up, guys. In case
you missed this over the weekend. I know we're big
NASCAR fans here, and if so much so that we
were watching the Infinity Race on Saturday, you might have
actually missed this. The winner, Connor Zilich, who was a
pretty good racer apparently six races won this uh this season.
While he was celebrating getting out the window, putting his
hands up in the air, but his leg gets caught
(39:16):
in the window and he falls down, breaks his collar bone.
Scary scene, kind of like you almost want to laugh
at first, but then yeah, he hits hard and he
doesn't get out.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Man, that was nasty. Did you see that, Jeff? Those crazy?
Speaker 5 (39:29):
It was It's never I mean we've seen that before.
It was it was kind of wild.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yeah, he hit hard. I'm just glad he's okay. I mean,
you take a broken collarbone. Eguld have been way worse.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah, that's tough. That's tough. Guys.
Speaker 8 (39:42):
We were, uh, we're talking about history in the MLB.
We were talking about Jen Powell umpiring in that game
this weekend. I don't know if you caught this. It
was Bill vec Knight for the White Sox that were
celebrating their their former owner. Lots of stuff going on there.
You had a one minute wedding, You had a petting
zoo with slots and whatnot in the outfield. Also had
a record breaking fifty foot glizzy Chicago style hot dog
(40:05):
out there if you wanted to take a picture, hit
your haircut.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Apparently I saw that they used a ton of mustard
on that. You sure did. It's terrible. Twenty one members
never used mustard on a hot dog. It's a terrible idea.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
The name GLIZZI I thought we tired at some point.
Speaker 8 (40:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess it's kind of new. I
thought it was maybe an old term, but.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
It is kind of older. Actually, it's a few years.
People in New Jersey have been saying it for a
long time. Interesting.
Speaker 8 (40:37):
Yeah, guys, I don't know if you've got a chance
to watch it. But an impressive weekend for the R
rated horror movie Weapons debut at forty two and a
half million, beaten out Freak Your Friday, which had a
twenty nine million dollar opening.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Go see Weapons. Great movie if you can get a chance.
And then a happy birthday to Hult Cogan.
Speaker 8 (40:53):
Obviously rest in Peace Holky would have been seventy two today.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (40:57):
Okay, I know Justin Cooper, who's Ben Maller's producer, saw Weapons,
and so that was pretty crazy.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Two thumbs up. Alright, good stuff, good hanging with you,
Jeff and the crew. Love you. Guys have a good day.
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