July 17, 2025 • 40 mins
Jason Fitz & Buck Reising talk about Shane Gillis stealing the show at the ESPYS as he took shots at everyone, Buck disagreeing with ESPN ranking Patrick Mahomes as the #1 QB in the NFL, another edition of "Would You Rather?", and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's not college football's job to save your favorite team.
It's yours. It's your team, it's your school, it's you.
It's not college football's responsibility. It's bucking fits taking over
two pros and a cup of Joe. He's Buck Rising.
I'm Jason Fitz. I have touched a nerve this morning.
I have touched a nerve with the world just speaking
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talking about Vandy grifting off of sec money forever, and Buck,
here's the thing. It has me thinking back when when
you and I first met, and I was working in
Nashville at the time in twenty sixteen, I talked to
Vandy's athletic director at the time, the people that they
had doing it because they had a very strange structure,
and I asked, when are going to invest in college football,
and they laughed and said, our student base doesn't really care.
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So they care about being doctors and lawyers, and they
care about bigger things.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So you know, we do what we need to do
to put.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
A football team out there, but it's not a pressing
need for our institution. So we are going to continue
to do things the way we do things. Now, you
mentioned Vandy has since decided to invest them and they
become a better football team. But all of that screams
to what the modern climate is. If you want your
favorite team to be successful, then raise the money.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Like this hole saved college football from itself.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Half the people yelling and screaming about this that are
worried about their favorite team, I guess I would say,
all right, we live in the most empowered era in
the history of college football. If you want your favorite
team to go out and win a championship, all they
got to.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Do is raise the money.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
If it's that simple, just go raise the money. Now, yes,
there were teams last year that had massive payrolls that
didn't win national championships. That's got to be part of
this conversation too. Not every dollar is spent the right way.
Book but I'm looking around saying, why is it college
football's job to figure out how to save any of
these programs. If they want to play with the big boys,
raise big boy money. If they can't play with the
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big boys, then just play in your own category, play
in a different sandbox.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, I guess the pushback that would immediately come to
my mind is I don't like the onus being put
on the consumer. There is too much money going around
to then glad hand and say well, if you want
better football, then it's gonna cost you more money out
of your pocket, or you're going to have to find
more sponsorship deals or do And maybe that part of
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it is just inevitable fitsy, But like I initially recoil
at the idea of putting that onus on Wisconsin Whitewater
fans or whatever other program that you might mention, because
maybe they do have one or two boosters or three
or four boosters that are actually capable of putting real
resources into that, and the rest of the people are
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going to look around and be But I, you know,
given the cost, not not to make it about the
current economic climate, but things have never been more expensive
than they are right now. You're asking people to then
spend more money on something that they've been able to
get at a reasonable cost or been able to support
at a reasonable cost.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Now the prices are.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Going to go up on everything, So maybe it's it's
just a general sense of inflation, not just affecting your
grocery shopping bill, but affecting your college football fandom as well.
There's not a good pushback that I have on it
other than that leaves a bad taste in my mouth,
even though it is probably the thing that is most
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likely to happen and the most viable solution to the
kind of problems that I'm talking about. If you want
to put people's true care of this thing to the test,
then you ask them to open up the I almost
use the word pocketbook, but I don't even think I've
ever seen a pocketbook in my lifetime, open up their wallets,
or you know, pull out their their venmo, whatever the
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case may be. However you're donating or paying for things,
depending on how you go about it, you are actually
asking them to not just talk about it, but be
about it, to be the kind of change that they're
seeking for their college football program, as opposed to just
leaving it up to chance, and because they've always been
able to do that.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Well, I guess my argument would be in a world
where we end up with a salary cap, in a
world where we end up with revenue sharing, in a
world where we end up, in my mind, with the
collective bargaining, with the union, with all these things, that
actually normalizes Why like that all normalizes all of this?
Right now, what's happening is, if you are a fan
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of West Virginia, you are coming out here saying, well,
it's not fair that Texas can spend more than we can.
In fact, it's not fair that any of these guys
are getting paid. Like, we wanted to go back to
what it used to be. Again, the courts have challenged that.
This has all been legally challenged. The Supreme Court has
over and over and over again come in and said
what you want is illegal. So now to every single fan, yeah,
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for every single fan that comes in and says, well,
I wanted to get back to what it was. What
you had was deemed non constitutional, right like, so then
what we have again. I'm not getting political. I don't
care about politics. I'm not smart enough to care about politics.
But the very same people that are sitting here saying
save my college football program, and we want to make
sure that there's equity all across the board of the
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same people that are telling WNBA players you shouldn't get
more money because your league sucks and you don't make
any money. Okay, Well guess what if your college football
team sucks and you don't make any money, then why
is it my job to save you? Like I just
why is it Texas's job to do less? Simply so
you know, Kansas State can be competitive, raise the money
and compete with them, or don't and at some point
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come up with the structure where the teams that want
to play in the biggest possible league together have a set.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Of rules and they can do it together. And if you.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Can't hang with Ohio State, Texas, Michigan, every SEC school
that we can think of, if you can't hang with
those guys, it's not everybody else's job to turn around
and throttle those programs back to save Utah State.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Like that's just what are we doing here?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Like we're saving We're worried about satan soa Air quotes,
worried about saving a bunch of of of athletic opportunities
for people that we don't really watch, we don't really
care about, Like everybody says, they.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Do degenerate gambling, which is the most likely scenario in
these in these things, which I think is probably propping
up a lot of the television ratings on a lot
of these smaller products.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I just so let let Nevada University Nevada areno play
Utah State and still have a line on it and
gamble on it. They just by the way, they're not
going to be playing in the same field for the
same things. They're already not playing in the same field
for the same things. We're just being more clear about it.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I am delighted by the idea that you and I
know this to be true. He's not being disingenuous when
he says he's not trying to get it political because
he doesn't actually care about politics at all.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
That is one hundred set factoration fits.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
But the fact that you have just advocated for what
is currently going on in modern society to have into
college football, which is the cleansing essentially of DEI. You
are advocating for college football's version of no more DEI,
no more diversity, equity and inclusion among smaller college football programs.
Why should I Why should my tax dollars go.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
To support Wisconsin Whitewater? Wait?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
What is the college football version of DOGE? Is that
the NC double? I now I'm the one to get political.
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Oh and it just makes me sad.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
It makes it makes it can make it can be
the thing that is most likely and most viable as
we move forward into the future for FITSI.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
And it can still make me sad.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I feel like, you're right, You're right. It is different.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
People will find more comfort when they figure out what
the lands are like. I think the biggest problem with
the lack of landscape is that nobody knows what to
ask for, and right now what you have is a
brainstorming like. I've long since made the argument with the
college Football Playoff Committee. Anyone that thinks that job is easy,
get thirteen of your best friends together in one room
and tell them that they have to rank the local
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pizza establishments and watch the brawls that come out from that.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I've done the.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Mollatus, Like, just trying to get thirteen people to agree
on anything is absolutely savage. I think what has to
happen at some point is a standard has to be
put in place simply so that we all know the
rules that we're playing with. And if you can play
in that that group of rules, great, If you can't
figure out what you can do, it's just there isn't
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you can't hold the entire system back to try and
save the programs that are looking to be saved. And
at some point, I mean, Mike, just be honest, buck,
if we ended up with the college Football Playoff that
had all of these schools that were joking about, Like,
if we ended up with the college Football Playoff that
was giving us a championship that was Utah State versus
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Poise State, are people going to care the same way
they would care if it was Ohio State versus Alabama.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I just think we're.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Disingenuous about what we actually care about. And what everybody
really cares about is their favorite college.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Football team, and they want to see.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Everybody else screwed if that's what it takes to make
their college football team as competitive as humanly possible. And
at some point I look around and say, hey, if
you're rooting for every other program to get screwed, I
have no problem rooting for your program to get screwed
too in the process. I just want standards and practices
that we all know we're going to be implemented, and
then hey, you can rise to that level, great. If
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you can't rise to that level.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
That's good too.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I will die on the hill that Connecticut is not
going to contend for a college football championship ever. So
let Connecticut play in whatever group they want to play
in where they can have their own championship, just like
we see for other divisions of football. And then everybody like,
if your team gets relegated into that world, it's because
your team didn't belong with the big boys anyway. It's
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not because we need to step back on the big boys.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
This is we were having this a version of this
conversation many years maybe not many years.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Ago, but uh six seven score eight years ago. No,
that's you, old man.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
With UCF and Scott Frost the first time around, not.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
His most recent return to UCFF.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
And by the way, just disgraceful comments by him about
the way that things ended and went at Nebraska. I
just think that's such a lack of accountability and such
an embarrassment. But prior to him going to Nebraska and
being an embarrassment. He was a successful coach, turning around
the program at UCF, leading them to an undefeated season
and claiming that they deserved at least a share of
a national championship based on that.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
It bothered people like Paul Weinbam very very much.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
You are taking now the Paul finebomb tact where everybody where,
everybody on the Internet that is expressing either real or
fake outrage because both do exist about the state and
advancement or evolution about college football. This is just that,
this is just a different kind of version about UCF
being included in a college football playoff picture. And so
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what I think you are asking for is fairy a
standard set of common practices and rules that are applicable
across the board. And if you meet those standards, great,
If you fall short of those standards, those have repercussions,
But there will be other places that you can go
to continue to get those products. It's just not going
to be the place the largest trough, right, You're not
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going to be feeding at the same trough that everybody
else has the way that you've been able to for
so so long. It is going to be one of
the most fundamentally different changes or fundamentally different things about
the future of collegiate athletic because there are plenty of people,
even at Power for Power four programs fits that Tennessee
will just I'll use a local example because I think
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it's applicable here. University of Tennessee won the baseball National championship,
not this most recent time, but last year, and I
think people would have sacrificed the national championship baseball program
in a heartbeat, even though they take great pride and
they were all at the celebratory parade over just for
another ten win football season, because that just matters that
much more at Tennessee. So it's not just what you're
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talking about with lesser football programs. You're going to see
things across the board sacrificed at large to make sure
that football first and foremost can be supported. And that's
where you start to see that elite level of talent
rise to the top and the elite level of competition
the games that people want to watch the most of
the most often you will see that come to fruition.
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But again the question is one at what cost and
two are you actually willing to pay that cost to
make sure that those things don't fall off the way
that you expect them to. It's putting the onus on
the fan more than it ever has. And you know,
that may not be a good thing. It may not
be a bad thing, but it's just kind of the
situation that we're all currently living in.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
He's Buck Rising on Jason FITZESPN dot Com polled NFL
executives to figure out who the best quarterback.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
In the NFL is and they got it wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
They say it's Patrick Mahomes And let me tell you,
Buck says they got it wrong.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
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Speaker 1 (13:49):
Spucking Fits taking over two Pros and a Cup of
Joe on Fox Sports Radio. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason
Fitz ESPN dot Com Jeremy Fowler. Every year surveys NFL
executives across the league to come up with the ranking
at every position. They had Patrick Mahomes ranked number one
at the quarterback position, which Buck disagrees with.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
But first, good sir, waiting get to talk about this earlier.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I'm not usually an sb's guy, I revealed to everybody
at the beginning of the show.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Most people know I worked at ESPN for a long time.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
The sb's were created by the network because there's nothing
going on in the middle of summer, so they were like, Hey,
nobody wants to talk about baseball, let's create an award show.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And they did that.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
And so even when I worked at the company, I
found the sb's painful to try and cover because like
it's just a random group of awards randomly decided on
I get all of it. It doesn't make a lot of
sense to me, but I will say it became a
phenomenon last night. Shane Gillis was absolutely everywhere on social media.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
His monologue seemed to make the.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Entire audience uncomfortable, but I thought it was absolutely hysterical.
So kudos to Shane Gillis for going out and crushing
a difficult role.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
My concern was are they going to let him be him?
And I was delighted to see that they didn't really
seem to pull back the reins on him. I'm sure
he made some executives sitting somewhere watching that cringe a
little bit. But I think for the most part, Shane
Gillis was the star of the SP's last night, and
that's not typically what the hosting role is. Shane Gillis's
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star has obviously risen a great deal in the last
couple of years. But my biggest question was fits athletes
seem to love comedians they like to have them. For
athletes current or former who have podcasts, all they seem
to want to talk to. Are the people that they
want to seem to talk to are people that motivate them,
fellow athletes and comedians. There seems to be a great
level of interest there, a lot of commonality, a lot
of different questions about performance and things like that and
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how do you go about it. A lot of athletes
try and dip their toe into the stand up comedy world.
McAfee has done this. Our buddy Will Compton with Bussing
with the Boys, has tried his hand at stand up
to try and improve what it is that they're doing
in the media side of things. But Shane gillis getting
up there and doing exactly what he was supposed to,
which is make fun of athletes. Deshaun Watson got more
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heat in a fifteen second SP's joke than I have
seen him get on any network in god knows how long,
and it made the athletes in.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
The crowd squirm.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
The jokes about Caitlin Clark and what she's going to
do when she retires, going to a waffle house to
one of her favorite things, going to a waffle house
to fight black women. Like that was his joke, right,
like that, That's what he was The kind of stuff,
the material that he was working on.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
He made Epstein List jokes.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
He was talking about Donald Trump having UFC fights on
the lawn. He did a stand up routine, a Shane
Gillis stand up routine, without doing the stuff that would
probably not I mean, would not be safe for network air.
He worked out outside of the lines while still staying
within the contructs the construct of the show, and the
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thing that disappointed me the most, Fitsie was not him.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
I thought he it was a rock star. I thought
he was the.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Best thing about the SP's other than the Lea Courso tribute,
because that was delightful. I don't know how much of
that you saw off any but what I was most
disappointed with is that the athletes who seem to relish
the opportunity to talk to comedians and seem to enjoy
stand up comedy, they can't take a joke when it's
about them.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
They can't take a joke.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Why they feel the need, why they feel the need
to be to have this holier than thou air while
being in the middle of entertainment, to the point where
Shane Gillis is having to tell people who are booing
him in the crowd, hey shut up, I'm doing a
stand up routine. It's not serious, it's not real. Take
a joke. The people who are the least effective at
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being able to take jokes. In my certainly in my
time covering professional football and in seeing the way that
athletes are covered, athletes don't like when you make jokes
about them. They are very, very self serious that way.
And to see Shane Gillis doing his thing, doing his
part in the middle of the rigidity and self seriousness
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that is professional athletes. I was pissed for him because
the crowd was so bad. The crowd was terrible last night,
just terrible, and I thought that he deserved better and
he you know, it was good for his profile.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
It was good for him.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
He was the thing that ended up being the most
consumed all over the place with the clips and the
different things. And I'm sure he's going to be the
highlight of the coverage. But I just could not have
been more disappointed with the level of self seriousness, self righteousness,
rigidity from the athletes in the crowd. And they're always
like that. That's why I think the athletes make the SPS.
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But they ruined the SPIS as a product. They ruined
the SPIS.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
The award shows in generals like it's just so tough,
everybody so jaded at award shows, and it's just a
weird it's a weird vibe. The vibe in general when
you're part of him is just I don't know, it's
not me, It's not for me at all. Shane did
say this, I will play a little because this was
an absolute like call out to the entire room, to
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all of the athletes, everybody that was there, to all
the people that work in sports, Like he made sure
to make a WNBA joe because it has absolutely blown
up here here it is four.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Time WNBA All Star, Britney Hicks is here.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Give it up for Brittany. Everybody. I'm joking around. That's
my friend's wife. I knew, none of you knew WNBA.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Players small the applause, like everybody that applauded was caught
right there.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
It cuts off right before the part where he just
he's laughing at them and goes, I can't believe that
you all clapped for that. But you know what, I
think he speaks for a good portion of the country,
just kind of like with some of the way that
again sports are covered and athletes are covered. This is
kind of to your point with college football and the
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way that people have tried to I don't think unnecessarily
grand stand on behalf of the WNBA because they do
have a legit phenomenon. There is a level of interest
in Caitlin Clark. We see how much the ratings shift
when she is not available, as she's worked her way
through injury, injury, and again is dealing with injury. It's
unfortunate that that's been such a big part of her
season specifically. But Shane Gill is getting up there and
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saying what the vast majority of people say in their
group texts, you know, and doing it, you know, in
a way in front of the athletes that's confrontational without
really being confrontational.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
I thought he put on a masterclass last night.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, and you know, there is this moment where I will,
I will. We talked about this earlier. I'm not a
political person at all. In fact, in most things, I
really frustrate most people because I'm indifferent to ninety percent
of the world. Like, whatever your big hot take is,
I probably don't care. I think the funniest part about
the WNBA is that I would break the people that
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talk about the WNBA passionately into three groups. About a
third of them actually passionately watched the WNBA and have
really informed opinions. About a third of them have decided
that the league is trash and everybody involved in it
is trash, and yet they've never watched a single second
of it. And then there's the other third that will
tell you that the league is amazing and that they
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love every portion of it, and they haven't watched a
single second of it either. Like it is wild to
me how many people that I know that we'll sit
here and profess some sort of feel one way or
the other to the w and it's like, how many
games have you watched this year? Can you name three players?
Like there are people that trash the league all the
time that have simply never watched the game and won't
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watch game, and that's fine. And then there's this whole
group of people that will tell you how much they
love it and they can't name five players.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
So I just I don't even know what to make
of it.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
The people that have and this is a specific example,
but the people that seem to have the strongest Angel
Reese opinions are also the people that will tell you, yeah,
I don't watch that league. Yeah, well then what are
you coming out here with these strong opinions other than
you don't like the personality type and you know which
league she plays in. Like, where are these strident, obnoxious
opinions coming for or against angel Rees if you're not
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actually watching her perform on a regular basis and just
you know, picking up the highlights or low lights that
have come out about her performances and then formulating an
opinion on that is It is the the worst version
of internet dialogue specifically, but the worst version of sports
dialogue as well. People screaming to high Heaven about whatever
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it is that they think they have to have their
opinions known on without actually being informed about the thing
that they have an opinion on.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
My favorite tweet is the NFL sucks so I haven't
watched it in seven years? Well, then how do you
know if you haven't watched a gaming like you're telling
yourself in the same tweet, You're like, I haven't watched
that trash league in forever. The product stinks, it's not
what it used to be. I mean, you can't know
that if you haven't watched it. Two things can't be true.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
At once.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
All right, quarterback rankings are out for MEESPN dot Com.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Again, Jeremy Fowler doesn't do these himself.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
He just surveys the league and he has put pats
of the league executives, GM's front office people that they
talked to coaches have come to the very shocking opinion
that I don't know one Patrick Mahomes is the number
one quarterback in the NFL. And you, sir, have a
disagreement with Putt.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Yeah, he's not. He's not even close.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Didn't you just on off of working with me a
week ago? You said, but Patrick Mahomes is the best
quarterback I've ever seen in my lifetime.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Yeah, on aggregate.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
But this ranking is for players in the twenty twenty
five season based on most recent performance. And Patrick Mahomes
just recently represented the AFC in the Super Bowl and
he got his ass kicked en route to and had
a stretch of I would argue about eight games at
the end of the regular season where they started to
look like the Chiefs that we know that you can
have confidence in, as opposed to the Chiefs that you're
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questioning on a week by week basis and find ways
to win like that ridiculous ending against the Broncos last year,
or any of these other one score games.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
That they've survived, and that matters.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
That's a skill, especially when you have that quarter back
that can tip the scales that way. But not based
off last year's performance. The best quarterback in football based
off last year's performance is Lamar Jackson. And this man
is ranked below Patrick Mahomes, who's won which is just
kind of a career achievement award at this point. And
that's where I really take the most issue with Mahomes.
Not based off last year, not last year, Patrick Mahomes.
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Patrick Mahomes was the fourth best out of the four
superpower quarterbacks in the AFC, and ironically, the top four
are all the AFC. So when you look at the rankings,
Mahomes is won, Alan is two, Burrow is three, and
Lamar Jackson, who should have been the MVP last year,
who lost the MVP just because you want to talk
about political. This Josh Allen thing was political. Lamar Jackson
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being fourth year as a crime. Lamar Jackson should be
the number one quarterback based off last year's results. Fitz,
there was not a more effective quarterback. There was not
a more efficient quarterback according to the metrics. We don't
have to get into the advanced stuff here, but they
were the number one offense in DVOA last year. His
passing EPA went up year over year forty point seven
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in twenty twenty two, seventy six point three in twenty
twenty three last year one eighty seven point three. He
is by a mile, the most statistically effective quarterback no
matter which metrics you're looking at. His playoff success is
the thing that we count against him more than anything.
And if you want to make it a rings argument,
I've got no problem, no issue at all with Mahomes
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being at the top of the list because he's the
only one of those four that's won a Super Bowl.
The other guys can't get past Mahomes, and the one
guy that did, Joe Burrow, fell short against Matt Stafford
in the Rams. But if you're going to tell me,
and that's what the background the criteria for this ESPN
Poll Executive ranking is, they are paying more respect to
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Mahomes based on his career accomplishments than they are to
how he actually played last year. And how he actually
played last year has more pedestrian than he's ever been,
and heading into twenty.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Twenty five, he's not. I don't expect to get.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Better because it may be the worst offensive line that
they've ever fielded in front of Patrick Mahomes, even though
they've just re signed Trey Smith, who's an excellent guard,
to as much guaranteed money as the guard's ever made,
and they have the number one interior offensive lineman according
to this list, Creed Humphrey playing center. The other three
are very much questionable at this point in time. That
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was the thing that undid Patrick Mahomes the most in
the Super Bowl. Lamar Jackson is one of those players
who's able to negate the impact of his offensive line
more than any other quarterback on this list. He's better
than Joe Burrow. He's better than Josh Allen. He's better
than Patrick Mahomes. If we're talking about last year as
a sample size, it's not even close.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
That's a pretty I mean, you're making a pretty declarative
statement on The Funny thing is I agree with a
lot of what you said regarding Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I really do. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I think you're underselling a little bit of what Josh
Allen did last year. I mean honestly, going into that season,
talking to people around Buffalo, they kept saying, we were
all looking at the wide receiver position. The conversation was that,
you know, frankly, the Bills believed internally that he can
be responsible for forty touchdowns no matter who's around in
between throwing and running. And then he turned around and
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did all of that. Like I think Josh Allen last
year was absolutely special. I had no problem with Josh
Allen being the MVP. And then the other side is
Joe Burrow who had absolutely no help but had a
historic here. It's just absolutely and to do as much
as he did last year with health issues at the
wide receiver position. Also, I'm not saying that Lamar Jackson isn't,
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you know, elite, one of the best. I just I
don't know that I can just declare right now if
I'm looking at this season based on recent results, Lamar
Jackson is incredible. But I mean I have every bit
as much, if not more faith than Josh Allen and
Joe Burrow going into this year and Mahomes all he
does is win, like that has to matter at some
point if we're ranking quarterbacks. The fact that no matter
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what you're up against, all you ever do is win.
It's no longer luck at this point, it's just part
of the identity of who who. Patrick Mahomes is Like,
you don't beat the Chiefs in a close game, Patrick
Mahomes doesn't lose one score games, and you can never
beat this team in a blowout.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
So doesn't having that.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Championship DNA that can win a close football game have
to matter in these rankings?
Speaker 4 (28:17):
It should. I acknowledge that it should. And I don't
want to.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Denigrate Josh Allen just because I think I acknowledged that
he was an excellent player, that his case for MVP
was a good one, but I don't think it was
the best case based on what Lamar Jackson was able
to do. It fitsy and it's probably it's probably personal preference.
And I do think that Lamar Jackson also benefits from
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the fact that he probably has, maybe top to bottom,
the best collection of skill players of any of these four.
I know Joe Burrow has Jamar Chase and he is arguably,
maybe not arguably the best wide receiver in football going
right now. But with Mark Andrews, and I know Mark
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Andrews did not end the playoffs the way that he
wanted to. But Derek Henry, Mark, Andrews, Zay Flowers, now
DeAndre Hopkins, Who's at least who's at least a a
an above average effective player, even if he's not at
the height of his powers anymore. Right, Lamar I almost
think got hurt by the fact that he had more
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name brand skill players around him propping not necessarily propping
him up, but assisting in him executing as at at
as a high of a level as any quarterback last year.
But VIZI, if I read the first sentence in this ranking,
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Jackson is the most breathtaking player in the game, is
the first thing that Jeremy Fowler writes under Lamar Jackson's
ranking here, where his lowest ranking was six, his highest
ranking was number one. Last year he also came in
at number four. He is the most breathtaking player in
the game. I would agree with that. Fowler also writes
he might be the most feared in the game too,
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depending on who you ask, based on the degree of
difficulty that it takes to hold Lamar Jackson down. Truly
hold Lamar Jackson down, And I would argue that Josh
Allen is one bee in this category because he's physically overwhelming.
He's mad Max out there, and you have to I mean,
it's like trying. It's like a cheetah trying to bring
down a giraffe. It's not viable nine times out of ten.
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And that's how Josh Allen makes a lot of good
outside of when the or when the play breaks down.
Patrick Mahomes teams may not have an outright answer for
him to keep him out of the Super Bowl, but
they have at least figured out a way to make
him less special. They don't have explosive plays in that
Chiefs offensive late, and maybe they find ways to manufacture
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that this year. But that's one of the things that
made Patrick Mahomes the most deadly at any given point.
There is no way to keep Lamar Jackson or Josh
Allen at this point from being able to execute explosive plays,
whether it's with their legs or through the air.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
If you were walking in today and you could pick
any quarterback in the league to be your quarterback this
year on your football team, you would pick Lamar Jackson
over Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I wouldn't think twice.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I just I can't I can't. I can't go with
you on that.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
The number of times we've seen Patrick Mahomes bail out
his entire.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Team, no none, Fincy, I covered the AFC championship've covered
a lot of games with both Mahomes out, well, all
three of the Mahomes out, and then honestly, Burrow because
of the team that I covered, the Titans in the AFC,
and they used to be good at one time. It's
been a long time since they've been worth a dam,
but they used to have classic games against all four
of these teams and all four of these quarterbacks. It
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was harder for them to stop Lamar Jackson than it
was to stop Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
And I'm not just using that.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
As an example of all right, I watched this team
against both quarterbacks, and this is how one did versus
the other. I have seen it consistently in the ways
that that they win. There are just more ways that
Lamar Jackson can outright, individually, individually beat you than Patrick
Mahomes can. Mahomes has benefited from not just being excellent himself,
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but also playing on high level teams when Tyreek Hill
was on that roster, when Travis Kelsey was at the
height of his powers when that defense is playing as
well as it did, and that playoff run was not
the It was a better run for Mahomes in the
offense than it was for the Chiefs defense. Certainly, that
Super Bowl was not Steve Spagnolo's units best performance by
a mile. But if you gave me all things equal
and said, regardless of the team that we're putting on,
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which quarterback can beat you in more ways?
Speaker 4 (32:36):
The answer is Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Man, you got two minutes to go in a game
and you need a quarterback. Patrick Mahomes is a better
quarterback like that in that moment you got you got
twelve seconds and you need you need something at some point.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
But it's not the final two minutes. That wasn't the question.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
The question was, if you're drafting of quarterback to play
for your franchise.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Which one are you taking.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I'm giving myself the most amount of chances by taking Lamar.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I'm giving myself the person that all he does is win.
I mean, it's not even just about the playoffs here.
It's just the number of times that we have seen
Patrick Mahomes just left dead in the water and then
he finds his way back into it.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
I have a hard talent year for them. Last year
was fifteen and two to your point in.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
A Super Bowl appearance.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
And if I have to bet my house this year
on who's going back, I know who's going to the
Super Bowl. It would be dumb to bet against Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
In my opinion. It's right.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
If I could bet on the NFL, I'd do it.
But you know, I've got some ethical obligations there. You
have to make sure I'm not sullied by the gambling,
at least in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
What are these ethics that you speak of. I know
nothing of ethics and morals.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
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Speaker 1 (34:10):
Hanging out two Pros and a Cup of Joe, getting
a little time off much deserved. I think they're actually
just on later in the day, but we're hanging out
early morning. Buck not with me tomorrow, but I will
be back tomorrow with Jeff Schwartz, so it'll you know,
that'll be one pro and a cup of Joe. A
lot to get into with with Schwartz, you know. I mean,
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Buck's great, but it wasn't an offensive lineman in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
So I'm going on vacation. This is the only reason
you're not saddled with me tomorrow. I deserve a vacation too. Actually,
the fine production staff deserves a vacation for what I
put them through this morning.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
And I suppose you worked a little extra hard than
you would normally have to, so.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
You know, if you got to spend some time with Schwartz,
some time away with me, absence makes the heart grow fonder.
I'll come back from California. We'refreshed, ready to go. Oh
ready for training camp and the grind that comes with it,
and you and Schwartz cann.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Have fun tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, I'm sure he won't have no connection problems the
same way that I did today.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
You'll come back tall, dark and sexy. Also, the fellows
by the way of Fox Sports Radio on the weekends.
If you've never hung out with me, there do it.
We're on from five to nine am Eastern. And I
had to think about that for a second.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
We're on stupid early every Saturday morning, so we'll be
hanging out with you. So for the next couple of mornings,
I'm gonna be with you a bunch at Fox Sports
Radio having a black in the mean time, Well, you know,
are you ready for this?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Buck We're gonna try this. We try this every time.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
It's time for the greatest talk show, game show, I
should say, in sports talk history.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
It is time for what It's easy, guys, don't think
too hard.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
We're on.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Would you rather Bucket, touch no good? Or fix it?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
All right, Justin's gonna come in and ask us some
questions along the way. We will decide if we would
either do one or the other. This is a simple game.
Are you ready, brother?
Speaker 7 (36:04):
All right, let's go. We have a first one. Here
is an interesting one. Would you rather be tackled by
Aaron Donald once or taking ninety five mile per hour
fastball to the thigh?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Oh? Tackled by Aaron Donald? On so it's either way.
It's only one time, right. The other doesn't come with
like just sustained abuse there.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Man, I feel like you're less.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Likely to sustain full body injury from a baseball to
the thigh.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
But that would hurt like a mother.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
No, I'm taking the baseball to the thigh because at
least it's not my head, right, like Aaron.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Donald tackles me.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
My head's gonna bounce off the ground and then I'm gonna,
you know, I'm gonna be a shell of myself for
the rest of time. I'll take the baseball to the thigh.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah, I feel like Aaron Donald would be it might
have a legitimate crippling effect, whereas the baseball thing, you
might just have a bruise.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
On your thigh for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I mean, like, could it breakcatch ninety mile an hour?
I mean on a fie on these little bite bird legs.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
I don't know, Man, you couldn't pray, I mean, could
break a bone through your thigh muscle?
Speaker 4 (37:09):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I mean, I don't know. Ninety eight miles an hour
just seems.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Really fast, Okay, said ninety five?
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Relax, my bad ninety five. Then that's easy, all right?
What have we got? Nice? All right? Would you?
Speaker 7 (37:20):
I mean, this one seems kind of easy to me,
but we'll see what you guys think. Would you rather
have to play one full NFL game in crocs or
golf eighteen holes wearing ski boots?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Like?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
I mean, I think probably the ski boots and the
golf like, that's not that bad for me. I'm gonna
take the ski boots in the in the golf because
I'm already I can't look worse when I golf. It's
physically impossible for me to look more terrible when I golf.
So yeah, I'd wear it, and I'd make it a
full outfit, Like we're gonna do the knee high pants
and the lime green hat and do the whole thing
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and walk around.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
With the ski boots.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Is everybody else on the football field and crocs or.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Is it just me?
Speaker 3 (37:59):
It's just well if everybody else difference, Yeah, because if
somebody's wearing clats and I'm wearing crocs and I get
stepped on, that's a nightmare. If everybody's wearing crocs, then
there's less likely to be a horrendous foot injury. As
a result. So yeah, it's the golf in the ski boots.
Although I feel like you.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Get shit and splints from that.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
That sounds that sounds like something that could have repercussions
after the fact, whereas the crocs in the football game
it would just be an immediate discomfort.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
I mean, get you get street credit if you're like, oh, guys,
I'm injured because I played football and crocs, you get
no where'd you get your shin splints from while I
was golfing in muski boots?
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Okay, go ahead, all.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
Right, this one is not sports related, but that's a
little ridiculous. And would you rather have spaghetti for hair
or sweat maple syrup?
Speaker 3 (38:48):
I would rather sweat maple syrup. I feel like the
sweating of maple syrup would is something that's easier to manage.
If you have spaghetti for hair, it's a constant thing.
It would constantly be dripping. At least if you are
you only have to deal with the maple syrup while sweating. Right,
And I know we're in the middle of summer, so
every time I walk outside the house, it looks like
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I it looks like I just got out of the
shower if I've if I'm not, you know, properly prepared
for the elements outside. But I feel like the sweating
of maple syrup.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Is a little more manageable.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
There fits you disagree, well, I mean you know that inevitably,
And would you rather something always comes back to the
hibbitidivity for me? And this one is right there, Like
you cannot do the hibbitidivity if you're sweating maple syrup,
Like she's not.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Going to be into that at all.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
You can'tnot go And if you've got spaghetti for hair, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
No, maybe she's maybe it's maybe it's maybe it's.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Maybe what maybe a me ball just rolls off your
skull in.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
The middle of the act, as opposed to just feeling
a little sticky, like there's gonna be some stickiness associated
with it anyway, right, Like that's that's something that you're
gonna be able to overcome.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
I feel like, justin, can you give us one more
quick so we don't get fired?
Speaker 4 (39:57):
All right?
Speaker 7 (39:57):
Would you rather hicc up every time you hear the
word touchdown or sneeze every time someone claps hiccup.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
When I hear the word touchdown, Guess I'm a Raiders fan.
I don't hear that very well.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
I kickups hurt. I'll take the other.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Look at that. We got all of this done.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
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It's not college football's job to save your favorite team.
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talking about Vandy grifting off of sec money forever, and Buck,
here's the thing. It has me thinking back when when
you and I first met, and I was working in
Nashville at the time in twenty sixteen, I talked to
Vandy's athletic director at the time, the people that they
had doing it because they had a very strange structure,
and I asked, when are going to invest in college football,
and they laughed and said, our student base doesn't really care.
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So they care about being doctors and lawyers, and they
care about bigger things.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So you know, we do what we need to do
to put.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
A football team out there, but it's not a pressing
need for our institution. So we are going to continue
to do things the way we do things. Now, you
mentioned Vandy has since decided to invest them and they
become a better football team. But all of that screams
to what the modern climate is. If you want your
favorite team to be successful, then raise the money.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Like this hole saved college football from itself.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Half the people yelling and screaming about this that are
worried about their favorite team, I guess I would say,
all right, we live in the most empowered era in
the history of college football. If you want your favorite
team to go out and win a championship, all they
got to.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Do is raise the money.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
If it's that simple, just go raise the money. Now, yes,
there were teams last year that had massive payrolls that
didn't win national championships. That's got to be part of
this conversation too. Not every dollar is spent the right way.
Book but I'm looking around saying, why is it college
football's job to figure out how to save any of
these programs. If they want to play with the big boys,
raise big boy money. If they can't play with the
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big boys, then just play in your own category, play
in a different sandbox.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, I guess the pushback that would immediately come to
my mind is I don't like the onus being put
on the consumer. There is too much money going around
to then glad hand and say well, if you want
better football, then it's gonna cost you more money out
of your pocket, or you're going to have to find
more sponsorship deals or do And maybe that part of
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it is just inevitable fitsy, But like I initially recoil
at the idea of putting that onus on Wisconsin Whitewater
fans or whatever other program that you might mention, because
maybe they do have one or two boosters or three
or four boosters that are actually capable of putting real
resources into that, and the rest of the people are
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going to look around and be But I, you know,
given the cost, not not to make it about the
current economic climate, but things have never been more expensive
than they are right now. You're asking people to then
spend more money on something that they've been able to
get at a reasonable cost or been able to support
at a reasonable cost.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Now the prices are.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Going to go up on everything, So maybe it's it's
just a general sense of inflation, not just affecting your
grocery shopping bill, but affecting your college football fandom as well.
There's not a good pushback that I have on it
other than that leaves a bad taste in my mouth,
even though it is probably the thing that is most
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likely to happen and the most viable solution to the
kind of problems that I'm talking about. If you want
to put people's true care of this thing to the test,
then you ask them to open up the I almost
use the word pocketbook, but I don't even think I've
ever seen a pocketbook in my lifetime, open up their wallets,
or you know, pull out their their venmo, whatever the
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case may be. However you're donating or paying for things,
depending on how you go about it, you are actually
asking them to not just talk about it, but be
about it, to be the kind of change that they're
seeking for their college football program, as opposed to just
leaving it up to chance, and because they've always been
able to do that.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Well, I guess my argument would be in a world
where we end up with a salary cap, in a
world where we end up with revenue sharing, in a
world where we end up, in my mind, with the
collective bargaining, with the union, with all these things, that
actually normalizes Why like that all normalizes all of this?
Right now, what's happening is, if you are a fan
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of West Virginia, you are coming out here saying, well,
it's not fair that Texas can spend more than we can.
In fact, it's not fair that any of these guys
are getting paid. Like, we wanted to go back to
what it used to be. Again, the courts have challenged that.
This has all been legally challenged. The Supreme Court has
over and over and over again come in and said
what you want is illegal. So now to every single fan, yeah,
(04:58):
for every single fan that comes in and says, well,
I wanted to get back to what it was. What
you had was deemed non constitutional, right like, so then
what we have again. I'm not getting political. I don't
care about politics. I'm not smart enough to care about politics.
But the very same people that are sitting here saying
save my college football program, and we want to make
sure that there's equity all across the board of the
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same people that are telling WNBA players you shouldn't get
more money because your league sucks and you don't make
any money. Okay, Well guess what if your college football
team sucks and you don't make any money, then why
is it my job to save you? Like I just
why is it Texas's job to do less? Simply so
you know, Kansas State can be competitive, raise the money
and compete with them, or don't and at some point
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come up with the structure where the teams that want
to play in the biggest possible league together have a set.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Of rules and they can do it together. And if you.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Can't hang with Ohio State, Texas, Michigan, every SEC school
that we can think of, if you can't hang with
those guys, it's not everybody else's job to turn around
and throttle those programs back to save Utah State.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Like that's just what are we doing here?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Like we're saving We're worried about satan soa Air quotes,
worried about saving a bunch of of of athletic opportunities
for people that we don't really watch, we don't really
care about, Like everybody says, they.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Do degenerate gambling, which is the most likely scenario in
these in these things, which I think is probably propping
up a lot of the television ratings on a lot
of these smaller products.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I just so let let Nevada University Nevada areno play
Utah State and still have a line on it and
gamble on it. They just by the way, they're not
going to be playing in the same field for the
same things. They're already not playing in the same field
for the same things. We're just being more clear about it.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
I am delighted by the idea that you and I
know this to be true. He's not being disingenuous when
he says he's not trying to get it political because
he doesn't actually care about politics at all.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
That is one hundred set factoration fits.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
But the fact that you have just advocated for what
is currently going on in modern society to have into
college football, which is the cleansing essentially of DEI. You
are advocating for college football's version of no more DEI,
no more diversity, equity and inclusion among smaller college football programs.
Why should I Why should my tax dollars go.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
To support Wisconsin Whitewater? Wait?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
What is the college football version of DOGE? Is that
the NC double? I now I'm the one to get political.
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Oh and it just makes me sad.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
It makes it makes it can make it can be
the thing that is most likely and most viable as
we move forward into the future for FITSI.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
And it can still make me sad.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I feel like, you're right, You're right. It is different.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
People will find more comfort when they figure out what
the lands are like. I think the biggest problem with
the lack of landscape is that nobody knows what to
ask for, and right now what you have is a
brainstorming like. I've long since made the argument with the
college Football Playoff Committee. Anyone that thinks that job is easy,
get thirteen of your best friends together in one room
and tell them that they have to rank the local
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pizza establishments and watch the brawls that come out from that.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I've done the.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Mollatus, Like, just trying to get thirteen people to agree
on anything is absolutely savage. I think what has to
happen at some point is a standard has to be
put in place simply so that we all know the
rules that we're playing with. And if you can play
in that that group of rules, great, If you can't
figure out what you can do, it's just there isn't
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you can't hold the entire system back to try and
save the programs that are looking to be saved. And
at some point, I mean, Mike, just be honest, buck,
if we ended up with the college Football Playoff that
had all of these schools that were joking about, Like,
if we ended up with the college Football Playoff that
was giving us a championship that was Utah State versus
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Poise State, are people going to care the same way
they would care if it was Ohio State versus Alabama.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I just think we're.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Disingenuous about what we actually care about. And what everybody
really cares about is their favorite college.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Football team, and they want to see.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Everybody else screwed if that's what it takes to make
their college football team as competitive as humanly possible. And
at some point I look around and say, hey, if
you're rooting for every other program to get screwed, I
have no problem rooting for your program to get screwed
too in the process. I just want standards and practices
that we all know we're going to be implemented, and
then hey, you can rise to that level, great. If
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you can't rise to that level.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
That's good too.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I will die on the hill that Connecticut is not
going to contend for a college football championship ever. So
let Connecticut play in whatever group they want to play
in where they can have their own championship, just like
we see for other divisions of football. And then everybody like,
if your team gets relegated into that world, it's because
your team didn't belong with the big boys anyway. It's
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not because we need to step back on the big boys.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
This is we were having this a version of this
conversation many years maybe not many years.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Ago, but uh six seven score eight years ago. No,
that's you, old man.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
With UCF and Scott Frost the first time around, not.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
His most recent return to UCFF.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
And by the way, just disgraceful comments by him about
the way that things ended and went at Nebraska. I
just think that's such a lack of accountability and such
an embarrassment. But prior to him going to Nebraska and
being an embarrassment. He was a successful coach, turning around
the program at UCF, leading them to an undefeated season
and claiming that they deserved at least a share of
a national championship based on that.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
It bothered people like Paul Weinbam very very much.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
You are taking now the Paul finebomb tact where everybody where,
everybody on the Internet that is expressing either real or
fake outrage because both do exist about the state and
advancement or evolution about college football. This is just that,
this is just a different kind of version about UCF
being included in a college football playoff picture. And so
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what I think you are asking for is fairy a
standard set of common practices and rules that are applicable
across the board. And if you meet those standards, great,
If you fall short of those standards, those have repercussions,
But there will be other places that you can go
to continue to get those products. It's just not going
to be the place the largest trough, right, You're not
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going to be feeding at the same trough that everybody
else has the way that you've been able to for
so so long. It is going to be one of
the most fundamentally different changes or fundamentally different things about
the future of collegiate athletic because there are plenty of people,
even at Power for Power four programs fits that Tennessee
will just I'll use a local example because I think
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it's applicable here. University of Tennessee won the baseball National championship,
not this most recent time, but last year, and I
think people would have sacrificed the national championship baseball program
in a heartbeat, even though they take great pride and
they were all at the celebratory parade over just for
another ten win football season, because that just matters that
much more at Tennessee. So it's not just what you're
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talking about with lesser football programs. You're going to see
things across the board sacrificed at large to make sure
that football first and foremost can be supported. And that's
where you start to see that elite level of talent
rise to the top and the elite level of competition
the games that people want to watch the most of
the most often you will see that come to fruition.
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But again the question is one at what cost and
two are you actually willing to pay that cost to
make sure that those things don't fall off the way
that you expect them to. It's putting the onus on
the fan more than it ever has. And you know,
that may not be a good thing. It may not
be a bad thing, but it's just kind of the
situation that we're all currently living in.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
He's Buck Rising on Jason FITZESPN dot Com polled NFL
executives to figure out who the best quarterback.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
In the NFL is and they got it wrong.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
They say it's Patrick Mahomes And let me tell you,
Buck says they got it wrong.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
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Speaker 1 (13:49):
Spucking Fits taking over two Pros and a Cup of
Joe on Fox Sports Radio. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason
Fitz ESPN dot Com Jeremy Fowler. Every year surveys NFL
executives across the league to come up with the ranking
at every position. They had Patrick Mahomes ranked number one
at the quarterback position, which Buck disagrees with.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
But first, good sir, waiting get to talk about this earlier.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I'm not usually an sb's guy, I revealed to everybody
at the beginning of the show.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Most people know I worked at ESPN for a long time.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
The sb's were created by the network because there's nothing
going on in the middle of summer, so they were like, Hey,
nobody wants to talk about baseball, let's create an award show.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And they did that.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
And so even when I worked at the company, I
found the sb's painful to try and cover because like
it's just a random group of awards randomly decided on
I get all of it. It doesn't make a lot of
sense to me, but I will say it became a
phenomenon last night. Shane Gillis was absolutely everywhere on social media.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
His monologue seemed to make the.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Entire audience uncomfortable, but I thought it was absolutely hysterical.
So kudos to Shane Gillis for going out and crushing
a difficult role.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
My concern was are they going to let him be him?
And I was delighted to see that they didn't really
seem to pull back the reins on him. I'm sure
he made some executives sitting somewhere watching that cringe a
little bit. But I think for the most part, Shane
Gillis was the star of the SP's last night, and
that's not typically what the hosting role is. Shane Gillis's
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star has obviously risen a great deal in the last
couple of years. But my biggest question was fits athletes
seem to love comedians they like to have them. For
athletes current or former who have podcasts, all they seem
to want to talk to. Are the people that they
want to seem to talk to are people that motivate them,
fellow athletes and comedians. There seems to be a great
level of interest there, a lot of commonality, a lot
of different questions about performance and things like that and
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how do you go about it. A lot of athletes
try and dip their toe into the stand up comedy world.
McAfee has done this. Our buddy Will Compton with Bussing
with the Boys, has tried his hand at stand up
to try and improve what it is that they're doing
in the media side of things. But Shane gillis getting
up there and doing exactly what he was supposed to,
which is make fun of athletes. Deshaun Watson got more
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heat in a fifteen second SP's joke than I have
seen him get on any network in god knows how long,
and it made the athletes in.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
The crowd squirm.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
The jokes about Caitlin Clark and what she's going to
do when she retires, going to a waffle house to
one of her favorite things, going to a waffle house
to fight black women. Like that was his joke, right,
like that, That's what he was The kind of stuff,
the material that he was working on.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
He made Epstein List jokes.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
He was talking about Donald Trump having UFC fights on
the lawn. He did a stand up routine, a Shane
Gillis stand up routine, without doing the stuff that would
probably not I mean, would not be safe for network air.
He worked out outside of the lines while still staying
within the contructs the construct of the show, and the
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thing that disappointed me the most, Fitsie was not him.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
I thought he it was a rock star. I thought
he was the.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Best thing about the SP's other than the Lea Courso tribute,
because that was delightful. I don't know how much of
that you saw off any but what I was most
disappointed with is that the athletes who seem to relish
the opportunity to talk to comedians and seem to enjoy
stand up comedy, they can't take a joke when it's
about them.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
They can't take a joke.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Why they feel the need, why they feel the need
to be to have this holier than thou air while
being in the middle of entertainment, to the point where
Shane Gillis is having to tell people who are booing
him in the crowd, hey shut up, I'm doing a
stand up routine. It's not serious, it's not real. Take
a joke. The people who are the least effective at
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being able to take jokes. In my certainly in my
time covering professional football and in seeing the way that
athletes are covered, athletes don't like when you make jokes
about them. They are very, very self serious that way.
And to see Shane Gillis doing his thing, doing his
part in the middle of the rigidity and self seriousness
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that is professional athletes. I was pissed for him because
the crowd was so bad. The crowd was terrible last night,
just terrible, and I thought that he deserved better and
he you know, it was good for his profile.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
It was good for him.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
He was the thing that ended up being the most
consumed all over the place with the clips and the
different things. And I'm sure he's going to be the
highlight of the coverage. But I just could not have
been more disappointed with the level of self seriousness, self righteousness,
rigidity from the athletes in the crowd. And they're always
like that. That's why I think the athletes make the SPS.
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But they ruined the SPIS as a product. They ruined
the SPIS.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
The award shows in generals like it's just so tough,
everybody so jaded at award shows, and it's just a
weird it's a weird vibe. The vibe in general when
you're part of him is just I don't know, it's
not me, It's not for me at all. Shane did
say this, I will play a little because this was
an absolute like call out to the entire room, to
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all of the athletes, everybody that was there, to all
the people that work in sports, Like he made sure
to make a WNBA joe because it has absolutely blown
up here here it is four.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Time WNBA All Star, Britney Hicks is here.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Give it up for Brittany. Everybody. I'm joking around. That's
my friend's wife. I knew, none of you knew WNBA.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Players small the applause, like everybody that applauded was caught
right there.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
It cuts off right before the part where he just
he's laughing at them and goes, I can't believe that
you all clapped for that. But you know what, I
think he speaks for a good portion of the country,
just kind of like with some of the way that
again sports are covered and athletes are covered. This is
kind of to your point with college football and the
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way that people have tried to I don't think unnecessarily
grand stand on behalf of the WNBA because they do
have a legit phenomenon. There is a level of interest
in Caitlin Clark. We see how much the ratings shift
when she is not available, as she's worked her way
through injury, injury, and again is dealing with injury. It's
unfortunate that that's been such a big part of her
season specifically. But Shane Gill is getting up there and
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saying what the vast majority of people say in their
group texts, you know, and doing it, you know, in
a way in front of the athletes that's confrontational without
really being confrontational.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
I thought he put on a masterclass last night.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Yeah, and you know, there is this moment where I will,
I will. We talked about this earlier. I'm not a
political person at all. In fact, in most things, I
really frustrate most people because I'm indifferent to ninety percent
of the world. Like, whatever your big hot take is,
I probably don't care. I think the funniest part about
the WNBA is that I would break the people that
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talk about the WNBA passionately into three groups. About a
third of them actually passionately watched the WNBA and have
really informed opinions. About a third of them have decided
that the league is trash and everybody involved in it
is trash, and yet they've never watched a single second
of it. And then there's the other third that will
tell you that the league is amazing and that they
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love every portion of it, and they haven't watched a
single second of it either. Like it is wild to
me how many people that I know that we'll sit
here and profess some sort of feel one way or
the other to the w and it's like, how many
games have you watched this year? Can you name three players?
Like there are people that trash the league all the
time that have simply never watched the game and won't
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watch game, and that's fine. And then there's this whole
group of people that will tell you how much they
love it and they can't name five players.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
So I just I don't even know what to make
of it.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
The people that have and this is a specific example,
but the people that seem to have the strongest Angel
Reese opinions are also the people that will tell you, yeah,
I don't watch that league. Yeah, well then what are
you coming out here with these strong opinions other than
you don't like the personality type and you know which
league she plays in. Like, where are these strident, obnoxious
opinions coming for or against angel Rees if you're not
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actually watching her perform on a regular basis and just
you know, picking up the highlights or low lights that
have come out about her performances and then formulating an
opinion on that is It is the the worst version
of internet dialogue specifically, but the worst version of sports
dialogue as well. People screaming to high Heaven about whatever
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it is that they think they have to have their
opinions known on without actually being informed about the thing
that they have an opinion on.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
My favorite tweet is the NFL sucks so I haven't
watched it in seven years? Well, then how do you
know if you haven't watched a gaming like you're telling
yourself in the same tweet, You're like, I haven't watched
that trash league in forever. The product stinks, it's not
what it used to be. I mean, you can't know
that if you haven't watched it. Two things can't be true.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
At once.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
All right, quarterback rankings are out for MEESPN dot Com.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Again, Jeremy Fowler doesn't do these himself.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
He just surveys the league and he has put pats
of the league executives, GM's front office people that they
talked to coaches have come to the very shocking opinion
that I don't know one Patrick Mahomes is the number
one quarterback in the NFL. And you, sir, have a
disagreement with Putt.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Yeah, he's not. He's not even close.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Didn't you just on off of working with me a
week ago? You said, but Patrick Mahomes is the best
quarterback I've ever seen in my lifetime.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Yeah, on aggregate.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
But this ranking is for players in the twenty twenty
five season based on most recent performance. And Patrick Mahomes
just recently represented the AFC in the Super Bowl and
he got his ass kicked en route to and had
a stretch of I would argue about eight games at
the end of the regular season where they started to
look like the Chiefs that we know that you can
have confidence in, as opposed to the Chiefs that you're
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questioning on a week by week basis and find ways
to win like that ridiculous ending against the Broncos last year,
or any of these other one score games.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
That they've survived, and that matters.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
That's a skill, especially when you have that quarter back
that can tip the scales that way. But not based
off last year's performance. The best quarterback in football based
off last year's performance is Lamar Jackson. And this man
is ranked below Patrick Mahomes, who's won which is just
kind of a career achievement award at this point. And
that's where I really take the most issue with Mahomes.
Not based off last year, not last year, Patrick Mahomes.
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Patrick Mahomes was the fourth best out of the four
superpower quarterbacks in the AFC, and ironically, the top four
are all the AFC. So when you look at the rankings,
Mahomes is won, Alan is two, Burrow is three, and
Lamar Jackson, who should have been the MVP last year,
who lost the MVP just because you want to talk
about political. This Josh Allen thing was political. Lamar Jackson
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being fourth year as a crime. Lamar Jackson should be
the number one quarterback based off last year's results. Fitz,
there was not a more effective quarterback. There was not
a more efficient quarterback according to the metrics. We don't
have to get into the advanced stuff here, but they
were the number one offense in DVOA last year. His
passing EPA went up year over year forty point seven
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in twenty twenty two, seventy six point three in twenty
twenty three last year one eighty seven point three. He
is by a mile, the most statistically effective quarterback no
matter which metrics you're looking at. His playoff success is
the thing that we count against him more than anything.
And if you want to make it a rings argument,
I've got no problem, no issue at all with Mahomes
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being at the top of the list because he's the
only one of those four that's won a Super Bowl.
The other guys can't get past Mahomes, and the one
guy that did, Joe Burrow, fell short against Matt Stafford
in the Rams. But if you're going to tell me,
and that's what the background the criteria for this ESPN
Poll Executive ranking is, they are paying more respect to
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Mahomes based on his career accomplishments than they are to
how he actually played last year. And how he actually
played last year has more pedestrian than he's ever been,
and heading into twenty.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
Twenty five, he's not. I don't expect to get.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Better because it may be the worst offensive line that
they've ever fielded in front of Patrick Mahomes, even though
they've just re signed Trey Smith, who's an excellent guard,
to as much guaranteed money as the guard's ever made,
and they have the number one interior offensive lineman according
to this list, Creed Humphrey playing center. The other three
are very much questionable at this point in time. That
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was the thing that undid Patrick Mahomes the most in
the Super Bowl. Lamar Jackson is one of those players
who's able to negate the impact of his offensive line
more than any other quarterback on this list. He's better
than Joe Burrow. He's better than Josh Allen. He's better
than Patrick Mahomes. If we're talking about last year as
a sample size, it's not even close.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
That's a pretty I mean, you're making a pretty declarative
statement on The Funny thing is I agree with a
lot of what you said regarding Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
I really do. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
I think you're underselling a little bit of what Josh
Allen did last year. I mean honestly, going into that season,
talking to people around Buffalo, they kept saying, we were
all looking at the wide receiver position. The conversation was that,
you know, frankly, the Bills believed internally that he can
be responsible for forty touchdowns no matter who's around in
between throwing and running. And then he turned around and
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did all of that. Like I think Josh Allen last
year was absolutely special. I had no problem with Josh
Allen being the MVP. And then the other side is
Joe Burrow who had absolutely no help but had a
historic here. It's just absolutely and to do as much
as he did last year with health issues at the
wide receiver position. Also, I'm not saying that Lamar Jackson isn't,
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you know, elite, one of the best. I just I
don't know that I can just declare right now if
I'm looking at this season based on recent results, Lamar
Jackson is incredible. But I mean I have every bit
as much, if not more faith than Josh Allen and
Joe Burrow going into this year and Mahomes all he
does is win, like that has to matter at some
point if we're ranking quarterbacks. The fact that no matter
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what you're up against, all you ever do is win.
It's no longer luck at this point, it's just part
of the identity of who who. Patrick Mahomes is Like,
you don't beat the Chiefs in a close game, Patrick
Mahomes doesn't lose one score games, and you can never
beat this team in a blowout.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
So doesn't having that.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Championship DNA that can win a close football game have
to matter in these rankings?
Speaker 4 (28:17):
It should. I acknowledge that it should. And I don't
want to.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Denigrate Josh Allen just because I think I acknowledged that
he was an excellent player, that his case for MVP
was a good one, but I don't think it was
the best case based on what Lamar Jackson was able
to do. It fitsy and it's probably it's probably personal preference.
And I do think that Lamar Jackson also benefits from
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the fact that he probably has, maybe top to bottom,
the best collection of skill players of any of these four.
I know Joe Burrow has Jamar Chase and he is arguably,
maybe not arguably the best wide receiver in football going
right now. But with Mark Andrews, and I know Mark
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Andrews did not end the playoffs the way that he
wanted to. But Derek Henry, Mark, Andrews, Zay Flowers, now
DeAndre Hopkins, Who's at least who's at least a a
an above average effective player, even if he's not at
the height of his powers anymore. Right, Lamar I almost
think got hurt by the fact that he had more
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name brand skill players around him propping not necessarily propping
him up, but assisting in him executing as at at
as a high of a level as any quarterback last year.
But VIZI, if I read the first sentence in this ranking,
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Jackson is the most breathtaking player in the game, is
the first thing that Jeremy Fowler writes under Lamar Jackson's
ranking here, where his lowest ranking was six, his highest
ranking was number one. Last year he also came in
at number four. He is the most breathtaking player in
the game. I would agree with that. Fowler also writes
he might be the most feared in the game too,
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depending on who you ask, based on the degree of
difficulty that it takes to hold Lamar Jackson down. Truly
hold Lamar Jackson down, And I would argue that Josh
Allen is one bee in this category because he's physically overwhelming.
He's mad Max out there, and you have to I mean,
it's like trying. It's like a cheetah trying to bring
down a giraffe. It's not viable nine times out of ten.
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And that's how Josh Allen makes a lot of good
outside of when the or when the play breaks down.
Patrick Mahomes teams may not have an outright answer for
him to keep him out of the Super Bowl, but
they have at least figured out a way to make
him less special. They don't have explosive plays in that
Chiefs offensive late, and maybe they find ways to manufacture
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that this year. But that's one of the things that
made Patrick Mahomes the most deadly at any given point.
There is no way to keep Lamar Jackson or Josh
Allen at this point from being able to execute explosive plays,
whether it's with their legs or through the air.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
If you were walking in today and you could pick
any quarterback in the league to be your quarterback this
year on your football team, you would pick Lamar Jackson
over Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I wouldn't think twice.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I just I can't I can't. I can't go with
you on that.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
The number of times we've seen Patrick Mahomes bail out
his entire.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Team, no none, Fincy, I covered the AFC championship've covered
a lot of games with both Mahomes out, well, all
three of the Mahomes out, and then honestly, Burrow because
of the team that I covered, the Titans in the AFC,
and they used to be good at one time. It's
been a long time since they've been worth a dam,
but they used to have classic games against all four
of these teams and all four of these quarterbacks. It
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was harder for them to stop Lamar Jackson than it
was to stop Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
And I'm not just using that.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
As an example of all right, I watched this team
against both quarterbacks, and this is how one did versus
the other. I have seen it consistently in the ways
that that they win. There are just more ways that
Lamar Jackson can outright, individually, individually beat you than Patrick
Mahomes can. Mahomes has benefited from not just being excellent himself,
(32:11):
but also playing on high level teams when Tyreek Hill
was on that roster, when Travis Kelsey was at the
height of his powers when that defense is playing as
well as it did, and that playoff run was not
the It was a better run for Mahomes in the
offense than it was for the Chiefs defense. Certainly, that
Super Bowl was not Steve Spagnolo's units best performance by
a mile. But if you gave me all things equal
and said, regardless of the team that we're putting on,
(32:33):
which quarterback can beat you in more ways?
Speaker 4 (32:36):
The answer is Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Man, you got two minutes to go in a game
and you need a quarterback. Patrick Mahomes is a better
quarterback like that in that moment you got you got
twelve seconds and you need you need something at some point.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
But it's not the final two minutes. That wasn't the question.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
The question was, if you're drafting of quarterback to play
for your franchise.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Which one are you taking.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I'm giving myself the most amount of chances by taking Lamar.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I'm giving myself the person that all he does is win.
I mean, it's not even just about the playoffs here.
It's just the number of times that we have seen
Patrick Mahomes just left dead in the water and then
he finds his way back into it.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
I have a hard talent year for them. Last year
was fifteen and two to your point in.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
A Super Bowl appearance.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
And if I have to bet my house this year
on who's going back, I know who's going to the
Super Bowl. It would be dumb to bet against Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
In my opinion. It's right.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
If I could bet on the NFL, I'd do it.
But you know, I've got some ethical obligations there. You
have to make sure I'm not sullied by the gambling,
at least in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
What are these ethics that you speak of. I know
nothing of ethics and morals.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
All right, it is time for would you Rather? The
single greatest game show in the history of sports? Stark
Radio comes next. Would you Rather? Bucking Fits?
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Taken over? Two Pros and a Cup of Joe on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
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Speaker 2 (34:06):
So Bucking Fits takeover on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Hanging out two Pros and a Cup of Joe, getting
a little time off much deserved. I think they're actually
just on later in the day, but we're hanging out
early morning. Buck not with me tomorrow, but I will
be back tomorrow with Jeff Schwartz, so it'll you know,
that'll be one pro and a cup of Joe. A
lot to get into with with Schwartz, you know. I mean,
(34:32):
Buck's great, but it wasn't an offensive lineman in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
So I'm going on vacation. This is the only reason
you're not saddled with me tomorrow. I deserve a vacation too. Actually,
the fine production staff deserves a vacation for what I
put them through this morning.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
And I suppose you worked a little extra hard than
you would normally have to, so.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
You know, if you got to spend some time with Schwartz,
some time away with me, absence makes the heart grow fonder.
I'll come back from California. We'refreshed, ready to go. Oh
ready for training camp and the grind that comes with it,
and you and Schwartz cann.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Have fun tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, I'm sure he won't have no connection problems the
same way that I did today.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
You'll come back tall, dark and sexy. Also, the fellows
by the way of Fox Sports Radio on the weekends.
If you've never hung out with me, there do it.
We're on from five to nine am Eastern. And I
had to think about that for a second.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
We're on stupid early every Saturday morning, so we'll be
hanging out with you. So for the next couple of mornings,
I'm gonna be with you a bunch at Fox Sports
Radio having a black in the mean time, Well, you know,
are you ready for this?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Buck We're gonna try this. We try this every time.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
It's time for the greatest talk show, game show, I
should say, in sports talk history.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
It is time for what It's easy, guys, don't think
too hard.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
We're on.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Would you rather Bucket, touch no good? Or fix it?
Speaker 1 (35:55):
All right, Justin's gonna come in and ask us some
questions along the way. We will decide if we would
either do one or the other. This is a simple game.
Are you ready, brother?
Speaker 7 (36:04):
All right, let's go. We have a first one. Here
is an interesting one. Would you rather be tackled by
Aaron Donald once or taking ninety five mile per hour
fastball to the thigh?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Oh? Tackled by Aaron Donald? On so it's either way.
It's only one time, right. The other doesn't come with
like just sustained abuse there.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
Man, I feel like you're less.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Likely to sustain full body injury from a baseball to
the thigh.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
But that would hurt like a mother.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
No, I'm taking the baseball to the thigh because at
least it's not my head, right, like Aaron.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Donald tackles me.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
My head's gonna bounce off the ground and then I'm gonna,
you know, I'm gonna be a shell of myself for
the rest of time. I'll take the baseball to the thigh.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Yeah, I feel like Aaron Donald would be it might
have a legitimate crippling effect, whereas the baseball thing, you
might just have a bruise.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
On your thigh for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
I mean, like, could it breakcatch ninety mile an hour?
I mean on a fie on these little bite bird legs.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
I don't know, Man, you couldn't pray, I mean, could
break a bone through your thigh muscle?
Speaker 4 (37:09):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
I mean, I don't know. Ninety eight miles an hour
just seems.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Really fast, Okay, said ninety five?
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Relax, my bad ninety five. Then that's easy, all right?
What have we got? Nice? All right? Would you?
Speaker 7 (37:20):
I mean, this one seems kind of easy to me,
but we'll see what you guys think. Would you rather
have to play one full NFL game in crocs or
golf eighteen holes wearing ski boots?
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Like?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
I mean, I think probably the ski boots and the
golf like, that's not that bad for me. I'm gonna
take the ski boots in the in the golf because
I'm already I can't look worse when I golf. It's
physically impossible for me to look more terrible when I golf.
So yeah, I'd wear it, and I'd make it a
full outfit, Like we're gonna do the knee high pants
and the lime green hat and do the whole thing
(37:53):
and walk around.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
With the ski boots.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Is everybody else on the football field and crocs or.
Speaker 4 (37:58):
Is it just me?
Speaker 3 (37:59):
It's just well if everybody else difference, Yeah, because if
somebody's wearing clats and I'm wearing crocs and I get
stepped on, that's a nightmare. If everybody's wearing crocs, then
there's less likely to be a horrendous foot injury. As
a result. So yeah, it's the golf in the ski boots.
Although I feel like you.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Get shit and splints from that.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
That sounds that sounds like something that could have repercussions
after the fact, whereas the crocs in the football game
it would just be an immediate discomfort.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
I mean, get you get street credit if you're like, oh, guys,
I'm injured because I played football and crocs, you get
no where'd you get your shin splints from while I
was golfing in muski boots?
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Okay, go ahead, all.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
Right, this one is not sports related, but that's a
little ridiculous. And would you rather have spaghetti for hair
or sweat maple syrup?
Speaker 3 (38:48):
I would rather sweat maple syrup. I feel like the
sweating of maple syrup would is something that's easier to manage.
If you have spaghetti for hair, it's a constant thing.
It would constantly be dripping. At least if you are
you only have to deal with the maple syrup while sweating. Right,
And I know we're in the middle of summer, so
every time I walk outside the house, it looks like
(39:09):
I it looks like I just got out of the
shower if I've if I'm not, you know, properly prepared
for the elements outside. But I feel like the sweating
of maple syrup.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Is a little more manageable.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
There fits you disagree, well, I mean you know that inevitably,
And would you rather something always comes back to the
hibbitidivity for me? And this one is right there, Like
you cannot do the hibbitidivity if you're sweating maple syrup,
Like she's not.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Going to be into that at all.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
You can'tnot go And if you've got spaghetti for hair, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
No, maybe she's maybe it's maybe it's maybe it's.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Maybe what maybe a me ball just rolls off your
skull in.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
The middle of the act, as opposed to just feeling
a little sticky, like there's gonna be some stickiness associated
with it anyway, right, Like that's that's something that you're
gonna be able to overcome.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
I feel like, justin, can you give us one more
quick so we don't get fired?
Speaker 4 (39:57):
All right?
Speaker 7 (39:57):
Would you rather hicc up every time you hear the
word touchdown or sneeze every time someone claps hiccup.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
When I hear the word touchdown, Guess I'm a Raiders fan.
I don't hear that very well.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
I kickups hurt. I'll take the other.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Look at that. We got all of this done.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Hey, we appreciate you guys hanging out with us this morning.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
As always, stick with.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Fox Sports Radio throughout the course of the day. Of course,
there's more greatness coming to you all day long. He's
buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz. I'll be back tomorrow and
throughout the course of the weekend. Be sure to keep
hanging out with us. Bucket Fits taking over for two
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