July 4, 2025 • 43 mins
To wrap up the last hour of this 4th of July Edition of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jason Fitz & Buck Reising talk about the Luis Ortiz gambling scandal & the increase of sports gambling scandals, then transition to 4th of July plans across the country. The guys then analyze Paul George’s comments about new NBC Analyst Michael Jordan will attract a bigger audience.
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Controversy everywhere in sports around something that most of us
now deal with every single day, gambling.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
But the interesting thing to me is that I.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Would argue the more of these controversies that we see,
the more times we see players being punished for gambling,
the more we can be certain the system is actually working.
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Buck.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
We've got gambling controversy, okay, and I shouldn't even say controversy.
We've got gambling scandal. And Malik Beasley became part of
this for investigation on some debts that he has and
some what looks like some fixes that were in Luisa
Ortiz has now been added to this gambling controversy.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
And you just keep seeing these moments where athletes.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Are being caught doing terrible things because frankly, how many
people today, right now listening are considering gambling on a
hot dog eating contest like we are in the spot
where my god, everybody he wants to find something they
can gamble on.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Right, that's say, I'm I'm gambling on the hot dog
eating contest?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Are you are you? Are you hammering the over? Based
on my earlier advice that you should check out in
the podcast hammering the Over on on total Dogs eaten.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
By I'm indeed I went to an offshore book and
I immediately placed that bet on the over under for
Joey jes Nut because I think he's gonna have a
record day baby back with a vengeance.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
God, this is amazing.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
The more times people get caught, whether it's point shaving
or rebound shaving, or trying to fix an outcome, or
you know, or tis because of a couple of pitches,
it looks like there's investigation all of these things. The
more times people get caught, the better, because look, inevitably,
if you're catching people, it means you've the guardrails are
in place at some point. To me, if we never
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caught anybody doing any of this, I'd be suspicious of
all of the systems and processes that are in place.
But the fact that we continually catch people doing this
across all sports tells you that, hey, there are more
eyeballs than ever making sure that people can't do stupid
things that impact the outcome of these games. And certainly
society wants to make all of this rigged anyway, So
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the more time that the people that are being accused
of rigging this are caught, the better for all of
us to have peace of mind that there are actually
things in place that prevent this from happening.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Have you read this, Luis Ortiz? The details on it
specifically at some this is I think a great a
great case study to make your point with because the
detail that they are getting into to be able to
flag first pitches for a specific pitcher in this situation.
I'm just reading directly from Jeff Passing at ESPN's reporting. So,
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the betting integrity firm ICE three sixty sent an alert
in June to sportsbook operators writ large specific to Luis Ortiz.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
He's the Cleveland Guardians right hander, and.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
They placed him MLB then placed him on the non
disciplinary paid leave list through July seventeenth. So this is
according to the sources of Jeff Passon, the alert referenced
action on Ortiz's first pitches in select innings to be
a ball or a hit batsman in two games against
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the Seattle Mariners and against the Saint Louis Cardinals June
fifteenth June twenty seventh, respectively. In both the bottom of
the second inning against the Mariners and the top of
the third inning against the Cardinals, Ortiz through a first
pitch slider that was well outside the strike zone. The
alert on Ortiz's first pitches flag bets in Ohio, New York,
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and New Jersey. So multiple states with the ability to
bet are picking up on these and that flagging situation
getting sent back to bet the betting integrity firm to
be able to make sure that the disciplinary process, or
at least the advisory process plays itself out, and then
whenever the disciplinary process will follow, betting on the result
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of first pitches is offered to the line of sports
bet of sportsbooks. That's a very common thing, but that
is that's what we'd like to call micro bets in
this industry, and so those micro bets are what can
raise the alarms more often when you are betting with
such a level of specificity that you have to be
trying or or able to identify some trend that you
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might otherwise that your average better is not going to
be able to do. Now, maybe your average better is
getting in on micro bets and things like that, whether
it's you know, first half over unders or things like
first pitches or first one to score points, whatever the
case may be in a basketball game, of football game
or otherwise. I think this is exactly the kind of
thing that you're referencing, FITZI, which is the system works.
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Even as leagues are going to be more they go,
they're gonna look more compromise than they ever have, right
because they're all every professional sports league, hell, all of us,
we are all just drowning in gambling money from the
amount of money that is being spent on professional leagues,
professional franchises, sports talk media writ large where betting has
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never had a larger influence because that's where the money
is coming from, and that's who's supporting a lot of
these things. And as long as you are aware of
the risks and properly aware of the risks, that's the
bigger issue to me. That the level of gambling addiction
that can result that people may not be properly prepared
for or are quick to ignore. That's the larger issue
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to me as opposed to is my league compromised by gambling?
Because time and time again, whether it be the NFL
or Major League Baseball or the NBA. Here in recent news,
these things have been handled pretty seamlessly. I would say
there's not been a lot of controversy as to how
the gambling scandals have gone down once the leagues and
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the betting integrity firms finally get a handle on it
or go through their process.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Calvin Ridley's a great example.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
I cover Calvin here now that he's in Tennessee, and
he was kind of the first case study of this
in the NFL during his time with the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
He made a joke.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
He made a joke at his introductory press conference. I'm
paraphrasing a little bit here. That was two years ago.
But he got up there and said, oh, we don't
have to get into the gambling stuff, but I was
definitely gaming you know, this, that and the other. And
he just kind of copped to it and then explain,
you know, that was at a different time we understood
the risk versus the reward, bad decisions were made. Ultimately,
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the league explained it to me in a way that
I understood that there were going to be consequences for
my actions, and that those actions were simply you know,
nobody's fault but my own. So the players are going
to be put in these positions. You can say, well,
you're putting them. You're putting in them in an undue
situation to be compromised. Because the gambling messaging is everywhere,
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the gambling signages everywhere, Why should they be any different
than anybody else Because they know that they have a
different response mos ability then everybody else, and if they
are not that discerning, then they're going to put themselves
in these situations as a couple of these guys have.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, and because they're part of a collectively bargained union agreement.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
That's one thing. Like for anyone that says this, this.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Rule is stupid, I will remind you that every single
rule that is in any rule book in the.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
NFL, in the NBA, in the NHL, Major League Baseball,
every single word of every single rule is collectively bargained.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
So if a player sits around and says, oh, this
is stupid, why like I can't place a bet at
the facility?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
That makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
You know, you need to talk to your union rep
because your union rep agreed to the language that is
in that that your union decided it was okay. So
you don't get to to me. You don't get to
cry foul on it. And it's one of those things where, hey,
what you know what you're up against? You know one
thing that always blows my mind with supplements for the NFL,
if you are considering taking a supplement, you can whatever
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it is, like a new protein powder, you can take it.
If you're a Titans player, you can take it to
the Titans organization, they test it, they'll come back to
you and say, hey, there's nothing in this that you
can't take. You can go ahead and take it. Like
that is free and available to every single player in
the NFL. So when a player comes out and says, man,
I was taking a supplement, I had no idea had
that in it, Well, then you're too stupid to insult,
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because frankly, you could have just gone like, you know,
the guardrails are there, right, They're there to catch this.
They're there to help you so that you don't make
a stupid decision. So for me, when I hear players
talk about, well, the rules are stupid, okay, then that's
not my issue, that's not even your issue, that's your
union's issue.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Take it up with them.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
The other part of it is the leagues themselves have
to continue to grow these guardrails because it's a new
generation rising and we just have to be aware of
the change that's happened in our society. Like I saw
a meme the other day that said, we went in
a matter of years from sitting in the back parking
lot of a taco smoking weed and hoping that the
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cops don't come to ripping our vape in the middle
of Target and as I was like walking around with
my pen in my pocket, thinking, God, I feel attacked
right now.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
But that's that's real.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Like, this is what it's become so prevalent in society
now because of legalization across many states, that if you're
living in a state where it's legal, and you're walking
around the park outside, you're just ripping your vape back
like you're not worried about whether or not a cop
walks up to you.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Like that's that's real.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
So cities and outdoor areas and all of these businesses
they have to adjust, they have to adjust to what's
now the norm. Understanding that gambling. Like if you're a
if you're an eighteen year old kid and you you
want to go out and sign up for DraftKings, you can, right,
you want to go out and sign up for any
of these off any of these betting sites, you can.
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So what you have or a group of professional athletes
that are more exposed to the opportunity to gamble than
we've ever seen before, which means the leaguers are gonna
have to account for that. They're gonna have to account
for the fact that the kids that are coming in
now didn't have the same stigma, Like there was this
thought process five years ago that man, you want to
bet on a game, gotta go Like look at look
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at the attendance to Las Vegas from March Madness. It
was down tremendously this year, and people in Vegas are
sitting around saying, well, why is.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Nobody coming here anymore? You don't have to you want.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
To bet on March Madness, you don't have to get
your boys and go to a casino.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
You can.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
You can go to casinos all over the country now
that have easier sports books.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
I've got two, I've got two mega.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Resorts in Connecticut within forty five minutes in my house
that have sports books that rival anything that's available in Vegas.
I also have my phone that has four or five
different apps. And I'm a degenerate, so I'm like, if
I'm bored on a Friday night, I'm like, ah, what
can I play over under own rebounds?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Well, athletes are doing that too, as they're coming up, right,
so kids have more exposure and availability to it, which
means you got to have better guard rails because smarter
people that don't have the same stigma and they understand
the technology better are looking around trying to find ways
to gamble.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Like that's just real for the next generation of athletes.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I just so hyper focused on the idea that you
get to walk around target ripping a pen and I'm
you know, out here out here fighting fighting for Delta
eight in the state of Tennessee, Like, come on, what
are we doing.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Here next time?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I like, look, the last time I was flying the
somebody the like you're not supposed to fly with any
of the stuff. I understand that, but you know, I
had some medicals in my bag and I'm not gonna
let the TSA agent started taking everything out, and he's like, man,
you sure do like your flintstones, and so they've been nicknamed.
My friends are like, yeah, I knew ten millions strong
and growing. Look, it's just it's it's part of the
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new reality that we have to face, the new reality.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
The point which what you're saying, and that's the thing
that that's really the thing that that and I'm not
somebody maybe maybe we are the wrong people to speak
on this because neither of us have kids, but that that.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Really at the crest.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Let's not get into that we're having a nice weekend,
all right, Let's not.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Be a buck running und don't ever sign up for it.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Look, look, I don't walk out of a studio get
hit in the face with a paternity test.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Relax.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
You know how stunned I was when I signed up
for twenty three meek because I don't have any relationship
with my parents and I want to find out more
about like what's in like what I need to know
for my future health and everything, only to find out
that I have two half sisters that nobody ever knew about,
that my dad had two other kids that he didn't
even know about. So you know, I'm just warning you, buck.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
If you ever go out there and try to start testing.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Your lineage, you can find a bunch of little, little
tiny bucks everywhere, little tiny bums.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
I'm also, i'd say ignorance is bliss. I'd yeah, respectfully,
that is not the path that I am looking to
go down at this point in my life. But I
guess my larger issue is where it starts to bleed
into collegiate athletics. Because to your point, an eighteen year
old can sign up for that, but you don't have
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to be eighteen years old to get somebody to make
an account for you. Right, That's the thing that has
been red flagged more more often than not. And where
these gambling outlets are advertising and offering free promos to
college kids on campuses and stuff like that, like the
collegiate athletics is where I get more I think a
little for lack of a better term, conservative about it,
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where I just I don't want those things anywhere near
college sports, even though I do often have moments where
I'm like, God, I wish I could bet on college
player props or these kind of things. The risk versus reward,
the harm that can be done there is so much
greater at the collegiate athletics level than it is in
the pros.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yeah, one thousand percent right, and brilliantly said by you,
because there's just more and more availability to everybody that's
young to be able to do so many things that
we just couldn't even conceive of pre technology ten fifteen,
twenty twenty five years ago. I don't know how they
stop it. I don't know how they stop it. I
don't know how they control it. I also don't know
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Speaker 4 (18:58):
I get to MJ in a second. I do have to.
It's fourth of July. You know. Buck and I were
talking about this earlier.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Fireworks everywhere Buck in Nashville, and I think Chris Young
is actually I think the if a quick Google search
is the concert tonight, which is always a blast and
really cool experience, and Chris is great. Here's the thing, though, Buck,
we played that once when I was with the band.
We played the Fireworks Spectacular. I've actually played it twice
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in my life, once with Phil Vassar, once with the
band Perry.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
And the crazy thing about when you're playing it.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Is that you have to time it out, and I
mean you have to time it out exactly for the
beginning of fireworks, like you have.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
To do it right down to the tee.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
You have to finish your last song just as the
fireworks begin. And it was such a wildly complicated like
imagine just sitting there and all of a sudden, We're
in the middle of talking and all of a sudden like, yeah,
this this song needs to go an extra forty five seconds,
Like it was down to the second it had to
be there. It was so stressful for me and just
so so wildly not worth it in the in the
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grand even things like just to be there the entire time,
counting numbers, looking at a set, being like do we.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Have to eliminate this song or keep this all going?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Like it was the most disjointed show I think we've
ever played, just because of the fireworks display on it.
So I always think about the complications when people want
to go watch their their favorite act play on fourth
of July before fireworks.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Why do you have to bog people's enjoy joy down
by giving them all the minutia and all of the
difficulties in your life. Why are you trying to project
this on to people?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Just I was just telling the story, like, look, you're
projecting your your hate of crowds, Like you live in Nashville.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
You're sitting here all the time. You're like, I live
in Nashville. Nashville is so great. And then you're like, yeah,
but there's gonna be one point six million people here.
They don't want to.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
And then I look, if you don't want the joys
that Nashville is providing you today, go live in Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Buddy, Why don't you just go out there and move
to Kentucky.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
No, I you might as.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Well live in Kentucky if you're not gonna go take
advantage of the fireworks in Nashville, all do well.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
I'm not taking advantage of the fireworks in Nashville because
you and I have to be on the air at
four am local time tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
And I don't think you're.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Going to be embedd at nine pm tonight making sure
you get your beauty rest for tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
No, but that doesn't mean that I have to be
you know, just so.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Bucks are made, Baby bucks aren't made by you sitting
at home on a Friday night, like bab.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
He said that I'm staying at home.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
I simply will not be swamped by large, sweaty, drunk,
corn dog eating, proud, beautiful Americans who have come to
our fair city to celebrate America's Independence Day, as they
well should. I just will be partaking in other parts
of the city as opposed to the let freedom sing,
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which is what we call our Fourth of July celebration,
which Fizzi has incorrectly attributed to Chris Young.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
This year.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
It is Dirk's Bentley, Russell Dickerson, Nico Moon, Grace Bowers
in the Hodgepodge, Keisha Rainey, Walker Montgomery, the Nashville Soul Experience,
Charlie Worsham, Kerr in the Band Less Kerr and the
Bayou Band, and the Nashville Symphony, literally everybody. Now, maybe
Chris Young is playing a side stage.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
No, I might. I might have read it wrong.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Maybe he did a previous you know, quick Google search
gave it to me, so I didn't.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I didn't verify.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
That's why I'm on visit music city dot com and
it's got a big old picture of Dirk's Bentley looking
back at me.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
So your your Google search.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Is about as effective as Google AI's feedback that they
typically give you. Chat GPT a far superior product.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
That's why I'm a chat beating GPT girly now, like
I should have gone there instead. It's just, you know,
I gotta.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
I gotta work on some of these the timing of
it by one of these people that I'm worried about
is going to turn it you have you seen the
movie Her?
Speaker 4 (22:34):
No, I haven't seen the movie Her.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
The movie Her is about a man who falls in
love with the artificial intelligence girlfriend that he has created,
and they carry on a relationship. And you know, now
people are creating AI generated girlfriends or significant others, boyfriends,
whatever the case may be, to satisfy their loneliness, or
whatever their conversational needs, whatever the case may be. I
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don't want to dig into people's lives for them.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
I'm glad. I'm glad that you have something in your
life at this point.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Although I will say to your fairness, I rudely yesterday
loaded a picture into chat ept and told it what
I wanted to say on the picture so I could
post it on Instagram. And then I realized afterwards I
just said, you know, I just barked out owners. So
I actually typed in chatchept sorry that was rooted of me,
please and then go oh no. And then Chatchypt responded
and said, Jason, you're always so polite. You know what
(23:26):
chat chypt gets me gets me. Buck Rising doesn't.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Watch that movie, just takes some time.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Nothing loss over the fact too, that you fat shamed
everybody that's gonna be at Let Freedom sing, which is
just a stupid name for that, visit music City.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Do better. And then also corn dogs, Like do we
do corn dogs on the fourth We just do hot
dogs on the fourth of July?
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Right, Oh, people don't do corn dogs.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
But if there was a corn dog eating championship, oh
my god, I would be in on that instead of
watching like the the buns get dipped in the water,
like just at watching somebody try and just manhandle. Like
I don't know how many corn dogs could you eat?
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Like speed eating. You don't have to put them on
a stick. I don't want somebody to die, but like make.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
It, make it because hot dog on a stick, I
mean West Coast kidding me here, hotdog on a stick
is better than sex like that, that hot dog on
a stick is amazing.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
They have cheese on a stick there, Oh it's incredible.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
So like I'm just thinking about somebody gorging themselves on
corn dogs.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I mean you've created a new tradition.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Yeah, I don't know why I associate morbid obesity with
corn dogs as opposed to hot dogs. U and I Yeah,
I mean listen, am I am I casting a wide
net if I say that the average weight of.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
To catch them.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
I feel like fat shaming is the one thing I
can still do in this country and get away with
it without without repercussion of being of being canceled or
or shouted down like I, you know, respectfully as a
for you and I have both been fat at relative
of points in our life. So speaking as former fatties,
I feel like we're entitled to, you know, just some
helpful words. It's constructive criticism. It's not it's not bullying,
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it's not fat shaming. It's you know, maybe three corn
dogs on a three corn dogs are three hot dogs
on July fourth, as opposed to this fiver that you
might with seventeen different beers as you're listening to Dirk's
Bentley serenade you on Lower Broadway tonight.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I so Brie are incredible producer.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
At the end of the show has to piece all
of this together into a podcast, which I told you
earlier you can listen to, and then she has to
send out what they call a show note, right, So
she sends out like a little email of everything we
talked about, and you know, the boss to see it.
I oh god, I would love I would just love
to see.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
People document these things.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Scott, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I just I just want to see how how Bree
tries to put lipstick on this pic that we have
absolutely done this morning.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
And that's not I have an idea already.
Speaker 9 (25:57):
Guy who spends the gym, that shame is the entire
state of Nashvillehere is the entire city of Nashville.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
It's not four hundred dollars at the gym, it's.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Two twenty at the gym, and then two fifty a
month for my health club.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Like by the way, by the way, he didn't even
use fake air quotes for health club. He said health club,
Like that's a real regular thing to Like, I had
no when you started talking about health Club and then
you were like, that's not my gym, Like no, I
my god. Like I literally I have the debate every
single week on whether or not I should downgrade my
Planet Fitness membership because they charged me an extra fifteen
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bucks to have usage of the hydro massage chair. And
I'm like, is it really worth fifteen twenty bucks for
a hydro massage chair that I sit in every day?
Speaker 4 (26:41):
And you're out here with a health club. You didn't
even say spa.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
It's a health club. It's a health the hell is
a health club. I go there for my sauda. I
go there for cryo therapy. I go there for red
light therapy. They have one of those oxygen chambers that
will work on your brain function. They do injections, they
do na D. It's a it's a full service operation.
It's basically a medical facility. You know, no free shout outs,
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but erte in Nashville, they do a great job.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Wow, bre do you think like screw getting an invite
to the party like.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
The health club?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Can we plus one to the health club?
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Like?
Speaker 5 (27:18):
I feel like no, See, I pay for the exclusivity
of not having to sit in the sauna with other
people because the sauna.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
The sauna has a Netflix.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
So I was watching I started watching the new the
new Netflix quarterbacks. Well they have a they have Netflix,
and they have HBO and they have Amazon. I just
chose Netflix on that particular day.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
There's there's a it's an infrared son Yes, okay.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
There you go.
Speaker 9 (27:39):
And do they do IV hydrations there?
Speaker 6 (27:41):
They do? Yeah, they do.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
They do specific ivs for people this sounds like an
endorsement deal at this point.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
It sounds.
Speaker 10 (27:47):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
They they do ivs specifically for if you're pregnant and
dealing with whatever pregnant women might deal with at that
particular point in time. They do something called beauty bags,
which I'm a big fan of because I'm so pretty.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Uh, and all of the other things. But yeah, you can't,
you can't.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
You can come to the health club with me, but
you will have to sit in your own sauna because
I pay, I pay for the right to not have
to sit in the sauna with you.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I'm not gonna lie. I have a infrareds on a
a house, little one.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Oh my god, now we get to the truth.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
I'm not gonna lie when you sit.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
For the justice for the one percent?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yes, no, my god, I feel So what are we
supposed to talk about Michael Michael, Look, we needed a buffer.
We just did a gambling segment. We can't do gambling
and Michael Jordan's back to pack.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
Why is there a lawsuit associate with that?
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Okay, so Michael Jordan has been added, and we don't
know the full capacity of it, but we know that
Michael Jordan is going to have a role on the
new NBC broadcast. Uh for the NBA. NBC is getting
the NBA back. If you are my age, you grew
up with the blah blah blah blah blah basketball blah
blah blah thing.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
All right, so that's coming back to Uh, that's coming
back to the.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Round Ball Rocks for those of you who are more
more sophisticated in your musical attribution.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Written by John Tesh. All right, so there we go. Uh,
my question to you is this. I understand we love
Inside the NBA.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
We all love the NBA. The whole world watches.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
The Inside the NBA show.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
It feels like I will tell you, I don't love it.
I liked it, I don't love it. Just to be
completely honest.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
With you, you don't what don't you love about it?
Speaker 6 (29:27):
I don't love their basketball analysis, like I think. I
think it's a bit dated.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
I think they just end up being old men shouting
at clouds after a while. Ernie is awesome, that the
cast is awesome, the chemistry is awesome. We don't have
to get bogged down. But like I was complaining about
the ESPN Finals coverage because I thought they did I
thought they did a terrible disservice to anybody who actually
cared about that series and the analysis of that series,
where it's just Steve and a screaming and shouting, and
then every once in a while Sham's will update you
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on Kevin Durant's landing spot while I'm trying to learn
about the Thunder and the Pacers and the actual advantages
that one team may have over another.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
But that's just me.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
My My biggest issue with inside the NBA is not
the chemistry, not the entertainment value, but like, if I
want to actually learn about the sport of basketball, like
inside the NBA, I'll teaching me a lot about basketball.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
That's that's fair.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
And I do think that part of the reason that
there's been such a divide in the way basketball content
is consumed is because true basketball heads to know that
they're gonna get much better content usually out of things
like the Ringer right, like, they're gonna go They're gonna
go to guys that they know and girls that they know.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
They do great breakdowns.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
That being said, Michael Jordan being at it has people
like Paul George came out and said, Hey, this is gonna.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Be great, Like people are gonna people are gonna flock
through this. They want to hear what MJ has to say.
Is that real to you? Because I I just don't.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
But during a game, particularly like if the Raiders are playing,
I'm gonna watch a game and I don't care if
the play by play in the color guy, Like, I
don't care who they are.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
I just simply don't care.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I don't think I've ever sat down and said, oh man,
there's a game on tonight, but who's the announcer on it?
And so like Step number one is I never watch
a game for who's on the broadcast. Step number two is,
I don't remember the last time I flocked to a
pregame show, Like I will watch during the football season.
I will watch whatever pregame show I think has a
better vibe and.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Energy that day.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
And if I'm watching, it's fine. But I can't imagine
just for me personally, there is nobody that CBS, Fox
or ESPN is gonna put on that is gonna make
me say, you know what, this is now the one
show that I have to watch because they have this,
Like I get the Manning cast is its own thing,
and like maybe you like watching McAfee or the Maning
cast or something like that during a game. It's a
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fun way to watch a game. I get that, I guess,
but I just don't know how many people are suddenly
gonna be sitting here bucks saying I gotta watch NBC
tonight because Michael Jordan's gonna be on and he's gonna be.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
Just electric, maybe the first time.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Right, it'll be a novel too, the first time, because
he famously does not do.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Stuff like this.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
But like, do we even know, like is he appearing weekly?
Is he appearing like monthly? Is he gonna pop on
like four times throughout the course of the season, Like
that's They have been very nebulous about this, and maybe
that's by design because they want to. They want to
drum up the conversation around it. They this is good
publicity for anybody to be talking about it this And
I'm sure I'm gonna sound blasphemous because I don't want
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to start any unnecessary fights a on a wonderful July
fourth morning that need be. But like Fitzy, I don't
care what Michael Jordan has to say about basketball.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
When has he ever been interesting? Like he's a winner?
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Right, he is one of the greatest winners of all time, indisputably,
He's one of the best basketball basketball players of all time, indisputably.
But like I'm thirty one, I remember that dude on
the Wizard's not with the Bulls. Yeah, I have YouTube.
I watched the last Dance. Like, I know what Michael
Jordan is, I know what he means, I know what
he's been able to accomplish. I know everything that I
(32:47):
need to know about Michael Jordan. So again, I'm sure
there are people in the audience who will hear this
and think, you idiot, you know nothing.
Speaker 6 (32:54):
You what do you mean?
Speaker 5 (32:55):
You don't care about the greatest, the greatest in that sport,
his opinion on basketball. What my fear is that they're
gonna hype this thing up. He's gonna get on there
and he's gonna do the same thing that Barclay and
Shatt do, which is all I could beat all these dudes.
He's gonna it's gonna make it about Michael Jordan. I
don't care about what Michael Jordan has to say about
Michael Jordan. I care what Michael Jordan has to say
(33:15):
about Steph Curry or Lebron or any of these other
and not even that SGA Anthony Edwards like to get
into a different generation of basketball. Is Michael actually gonna
analyze the basketball players or is he gonna bring it
back to what an indictment it is of all the
other basketball players that they're not him. That is my
that is my biggest fear here.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
I think there are times like look watching Randy Moss,
for example, on the ESPN coverage. He does a really
good job. Harry Douglas, you know, shout out to Harry.
He's like a brother to me, so the man.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
I love Harry.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
I had him as a as a player, and it's
been so cool to see what he's been able to
do in his media career.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah, and like getting to work with him on radio
every day was something that I'll never forget.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Harry, Well, it just felt like I felt like a shot.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
I mean what it didn't feel like it. I mean, oh, Harry,
Harry does a.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Great I'm gonna take these last twenty minutes. I'm gonna
go find it because I live in Tennessee and I
can't vape in a target the way Fitzy Gan like,
I'm just gonna take the rest of.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
The day off, right, I mean, if we could.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
It's gonna be a lot less pleasant for you.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Now, I mean, you're right about that. I take it
all back.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
I'm sorry nobody believes you.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
And also you are correct. Harry Douglas is way more
fun to work with than I am. I understand that.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Harry does a great like Harry's one of those guys
that digs and dives like all he does is watch tape.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
And and when I was working with Harry, he'd send
a text at two in the morning and be like,
I saw this play.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
This is so cool.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
I want to talk about it, right, Like, I think
some guys are wired that way, and some guys that are,
Like there are guys that played that no more than
most of us are ever gonna even conceive of knowing
to dive into it so much. And then there are
guys that played that just rely on the fact that
they played and they don't watch anything anymore. And I
just don't think we know right now where any of
that's gonna be. And to your point, like, look, MJ's
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gonna be interesting. People were interested in Tom Brady, you know,
Tom Brady being different obviously because he's on the game
calling the game. People were interested in Tom Brady. I
don't know though, that somebody's ever sat there and said,
oh man, you know what, let's go Look, I don't
want a tailgate right now. I gotta go home and
I gotta watch this pregame show. I just think at
some point we all sort of we all fall into
(35:35):
the same circle. And I'm not sure that MJ as
much as having Michael Jordan on there is gonna be incredible.
That's fine. I mean, also, Lebron does content all the time.
Like these guys, they all do content all the time,
and I'm not sure that there's a way for any
of it to separate. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe Paul George
is right at the very least COO just to NBC
for put as much out there as they can.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
It would be the first thing that Paul George would
have been right about in his career.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
So I didn't need to also say he's the best pure,
pure shooter ever.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
The man called himself Paul Pierce said that, well, it
does not make me any less willing to take shots
at UH. The form The artist formally known as Playoff
p without any championships. Paul George just you know, but
Paul George just irritates me. But that's because I'm a
Pacers man.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Well, uh, speaking of irritating, we got the way we
like to end every show. If you're new to hanging
out with Buck and Eye is with the most incredible
game show in sports talk radio history.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Would you rather is coming at you next?
Speaker 10 (36:35):
On Fox Sports Radio?
Speaker 3 (37:16):
It's two pros and a cup of Joe on Fox
Sports Radio, a Bucking fits takeover. Gotta say that really carefully.
He's Buck Rising, I'm Jason Fitz. We're hanging out with you.
We have been all morning. We will be back with
you tomorrow morning. By the way, for the fellas, usually
the fellas is me and Anthony Gargano.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Anthony's got the weekend off, So.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Buck Rising gonna continue this trend of early mornings, late
nights and early mornings. We'll see how recovered.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Both of us are for the fifth of July show.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
That could be a doozy fourth of July wouldn't be
possible today without Bree and Mighty Mark behind the scenes,
who are doing God's work, just keeping us on track.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
I don't know how they do it.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
But I am honored and lucky every single Saturday to
get to hang out with them. And they've been a
dream team today. So we appreciate our wonderful crew and
you guys that have taken the time to listen to
us look at me being all like nice and thoughtful,
and you know.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
All this is this is called you speaking from the
heart book.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
He does this every time. I think it's I think
it's artificial. Does it does?
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Because he does this every No, of course, of course
I have thoroughly enjoyed.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
Uh one of them, but yeah, with Mark and Bree.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
But does it let me ask the let me ask
the room back there in Los Angeles? Uh we he
does this, He thanks you guys, and and does so
it in the final segment of every show that he does.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
Does it?
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Does it become a little hollow knowing that he's gonna
do it at the same time in exactly the same way, like,
does it mean a little less at all? You go first, Mark,
that's an answer from I already know how feels about it.
Speaker 9 (38:52):
I usually say something on the last break before we
go back on there because there's no time to say
you know, see it later at the end.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Of no, so I do that before.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
So it's it sounds sincere to me. It is mm hmm.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
You give me super genuine give your thoughts, Oh, sir,
you wanted to see what Mark would say first?
Speaker 6 (39:14):
I see you breathe together.
Speaker 9 (39:15):
Because I'm the same way like people think I'm fake
all the time, so I just want to think like
I'm a genuine person.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
So I got it.
Speaker 9 (39:22):
So no, I think fits is a hundred percent real.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Buck wouldn't no sincerity unless it was the name of
a stripper he took home.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
All right, it is time.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
It was just at one time.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
It's time for America's favorite games.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
We always a nice light.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Well what's she? Uh? We're gonna try and say this together, Buck,
it is time for wood.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
You rather that's terrible?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
It's easy, guys, don't think too hard.
Speaker 10 (39:53):
I'm not a moor.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Would you rather, Bucket?
Speaker 6 (39:55):
It's no good?
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Or fix it?
Speaker 6 (40:01):
By the way, it's been a little while.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
One one rule in life, never date somebody that wouldn't
have to change their name to be a stripper. That's
just a general rule. Uh, Bri, what do you got
for us? Would you rather? If she's gonna throw the
questions and we'll figure out which one we'd rather.
Speaker 9 (40:16):
Alrighty guys, would you rather get a lifetime supply of
free hot dogs from your favorite stadium or free nachos
at every concert you attend?
Speaker 6 (40:25):
You go first? Can I pass?
Speaker 5 (40:27):
I don't want I don't eat food in public like that,
like no way, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
No, it's I'm scared of the internet. I just I
don't want to.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
I don't want to be photographed eating a hot dog.
And also I don't like eating things with my hands,
like I'm a very big utensil person.
Speaker 6 (40:41):
I don't like the mess.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Uh nachos. Nachos are delightful, but like I am a freak.
I will eat nachos with a fork and knife if
I can help it.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
I don't even know how to process. Uh, the two.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
Free hot dogs for life? Free? Howt talks?
Speaker 9 (41:00):
Not free nachos like with the little videos, none of that.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
No see Like look, and I am a fan of
some can cheese. I'm all in on the can cheese.
But there is just something about a hot Like when
I walk into an arena, usually I have ripped the
pen that we were discussing earlier right before I walk in,
And so I'm immediately hungry.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
And the nacho's just never quite hit the way I
want him to.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
A stadium or arena hot dog is always perfect, even
if like in its soggy weirdness of like chewiness, like
there's just something about that smother uncover it and oh yeah, no,
I'm good. I'm all in on that. I might actually
put a little bit of the nacho cheese on the
hot talk, but yeah, I'm taking the free I'm taking
the free hot talk free.
Speaker 6 (41:38):
I'm with you, though, Brave nachos are a superior.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Product definitely in general, yes, but not in the stateium
bree give us any yeah, I oh, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
I don't really like hot dogs.
Speaker 9 (41:46):
Would you rather have to give play by play commentary
of your own life twenty four to seven or have
a rival sports commentator do it for you?
Speaker 4 (41:54):
What do you got fit?
Speaker 3 (41:57):
I'm gonna go with I want the rival because that's
gonna be really interesting and he's just gonna piss me.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
Off the whole shit the whole time.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Like having a rival commentate on the hibbitty dibity just
feels like that's a.
Speaker 6 (42:09):
I mean, why do you want somebody narrating your sex? Life.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Why is that where your REGOs game?
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Like all of a sudden, you're like, well, if it's
gonna be commentated on, like, let's go.
Speaker 6 (42:20):
You know, no, let me.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
I'm already self involved enough. Just let me narrate my
own life. I'd be happier for it.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
Okay, Well, I don't know if it's fine.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
This is what's what you want.
Speaker 9 (42:33):
That's good, it makes sense. Would you rather be stuck
in an elevator with a super fan who wants to
debate every call in last night's game, or with someone
who only wants to freestyle rap at you for an hour?
Speaker 5 (42:43):
But oh my god, these are awful options of freestyle rap.
At least then I can just check out and and
and go along for the ride, like the sports fans
are the reason why we exist.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
We love you all very much.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
If you want to, you know, bury me in all
the ins and outs of a debating balls and strikes
in a in a regular season baseball game, I'd.
Speaker 6 (43:04):
Rather take a drill bit to my temple. No, thank you.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
If the freestyle rapper is good, I might be in
for that, But I'm not willing to bet that the
freestyle rapper is good. And I can listen to stupid
sports takes. I mean, we do it every day, so
I'm gonna take the super fan. Yeah, I mean it's
just I'm gonna take the super fan for every every
out to day. I'm I'm comfortable saying super fan in
this one. Mostly I'm comfortable saying thank you to you guys.
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Controversy everywhere in sports around something that most of us
now deal with every single day, gambling.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
But the interesting thing to me is that I.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Would argue the more of these controversies that we see,
the more times we see players being punished for gambling,
the more we can be certain the system is actually working.
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Speaker 4 (02:16):
We'll be with you tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Also for the Fellas my usual slot on Saturday mornings,
hanging out with you there as well.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Buck.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
We've got gambling controversy, okay, and I shouldn't even say controversy.
We've got gambling scandal. And Malik Beasley became part of
this for investigation on some debts that he has and
some what looks like some fixes that were in Luisa
Ortiz has now been added to this gambling controversy.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
And you just keep seeing these moments where athletes.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Are being caught doing terrible things because frankly, how many
people today, right now listening are considering gambling on a
hot dog eating contest like we are in the spot
where my god, everybody he wants to find something they
can gamble on.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Right, that's say, I'm I'm gambling on the hot dog
eating contest?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Are you are you? Are you hammering the over? Based
on my earlier advice that you should check out in
the podcast hammering the Over on on total Dogs eaten.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
By I'm indeed I went to an offshore book and
I immediately placed that bet on the over under for
Joey jes Nut because I think he's gonna have a
record day baby back with a vengeance.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
God, this is amazing.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
The more times people get caught, whether it's point shaving
or rebound shaving, or trying to fix an outcome, or
you know, or tis because of a couple of pitches,
it looks like there's investigation all of these things. The
more times people get caught, the better, because look, inevitably,
if you're catching people, it means you've the guardrails are
in place at some point. To me, if we never
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caught anybody doing any of this, I'd be suspicious of
all of the systems and processes that are in place.
But the fact that we continually catch people doing this
across all sports tells you that, hey, there are more
eyeballs than ever making sure that people can't do stupid
things that impact the outcome of these games. And certainly
society wants to make all of this rigged anyway, So
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the more time that the people that are being accused
of rigging this are caught, the better for all of
us to have peace of mind that there are actually
things in place that prevent this from happening.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
Have you read this, Luis Ortiz? The details on it
specifically at some this is I think a great a
great case study to make your point with because the
detail that they are getting into to be able to
flag first pitches for a specific pitcher in this situation.
I'm just reading directly from Jeff Passing at ESPN's reporting. So,
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the betting integrity firm ICE three sixty sent an alert
in June to sportsbook operators writ large specific to Luis Ortiz.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
He's the Cleveland Guardians right hander, and.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
They placed him MLB then placed him on the non
disciplinary paid leave list through July seventeenth. So this is
according to the sources of Jeff Passon, the alert referenced
action on Ortiz's first pitches in select innings to be
a ball or a hit batsman in two games against
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the Seattle Mariners and against the Saint Louis Cardinals June
fifteenth June twenty seventh, respectively. In both the bottom of
the second inning against the Mariners and the top of
the third inning against the Cardinals, Ortiz through a first
pitch slider that was well outside the strike zone. The
alert on Ortiz's first pitches flag bets in Ohio, New York,
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and New Jersey. So multiple states with the ability to
bet are picking up on these and that flagging situation
getting sent back to bet the betting integrity firm to
be able to make sure that the disciplinary process, or
at least the advisory process plays itself out, and then
whenever the disciplinary process will follow, betting on the result
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of first pitches is offered to the line of sports
bet of sportsbooks. That's a very common thing, but that
is that's what we'd like to call micro bets in
this industry, and so those micro bets are what can
raise the alarms more often when you are betting with
such a level of specificity that you have to be
trying or or able to identify some trend that you
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might otherwise that your average better is not going to
be able to do. Now, maybe your average better is
getting in on micro bets and things like that, whether
it's you know, first half over unders or things like
first pitches or first one to score points, whatever the
case may be in a basketball game, of football game
or otherwise. I think this is exactly the kind of
thing that you're referencing, FITZI, which is the system works.
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Even as leagues are going to be more they go,
they're gonna look more compromise than they ever have, right
because they're all every professional sports league, hell, all of us,
we are all just drowning in gambling money from the
amount of money that is being spent on professional leagues,
professional franchises, sports talk media writ large where betting has
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never had a larger influence because that's where the money
is coming from, and that's who's supporting a lot of
these things. And as long as you are aware of
the risks and properly aware of the risks, that's the
bigger issue to me. That the level of gambling addiction
that can result that people may not be properly prepared
for or are quick to ignore. That's the larger issue
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to me as opposed to is my league compromised by gambling?
Because time and time again, whether it be the NFL
or Major League Baseball or the NBA. Here in recent news,
these things have been handled pretty seamlessly. I would say
there's not been a lot of controversy as to how
the gambling scandals have gone down once the leagues and
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the betting integrity firms finally get a handle on it
or go through their process.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Calvin Ridley's a great example.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
I cover Calvin here now that he's in Tennessee, and
he was kind of the first case study of this
in the NFL during his time with the Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
He made a joke.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
He made a joke at his introductory press conference. I'm
paraphrasing a little bit here. That was two years ago.
But he got up there and said, oh, we don't
have to get into the gambling stuff, but I was
definitely gaming you know, this, that and the other. And
he just kind of copped to it and then explain,
you know, that was at a different time we understood
the risk versus the reward, bad decisions were made. Ultimately,
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the league explained it to me in a way that
I understood that there were going to be consequences for
my actions, and that those actions were simply you know,
nobody's fault but my own. So the players are going
to be put in these positions. You can say, well,
you're putting them. You're putting in them in an undue
situation to be compromised. Because the gambling messaging is everywhere,
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the gambling signages everywhere, Why should they be any different
than anybody else Because they know that they have a
different response mos ability then everybody else, and if they
are not that discerning, then they're going to put themselves
in these situations as a couple of these guys have.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, and because they're part of a collectively bargained union agreement.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
That's one thing. Like for anyone that says this, this.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Rule is stupid, I will remind you that every single
rule that is in any rule book in the.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
NFL, in the NBA, in the NHL, Major League Baseball,
every single word of every single rule is collectively bargained.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
So if a player sits around and says, oh, this
is stupid, why like I can't place a bet at
the facility?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
That makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
You know, you need to talk to your union rep
because your union rep agreed to the language that is
in that that your union decided it was okay. So
you don't get to to me. You don't get to
cry foul on it. And it's one of those things where, hey,
what you know what you're up against? You know one
thing that always blows my mind with supplements for the NFL,
if you are considering taking a supplement, you can whatever
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it is, like a new protein powder, you can take it.
If you're a Titans player, you can take it to
the Titans organization, they test it, they'll come back to
you and say, hey, there's nothing in this that you
can't take. You can go ahead and take it. Like
that is free and available to every single player in
the NFL. So when a player comes out and says, man,
I was taking a supplement, I had no idea had
that in it, Well, then you're too stupid to insult,
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because frankly, you could have just gone like, you know,
the guardrails are there, right, They're there to catch this.
They're there to help you so that you don't make
a stupid decision. So for me, when I hear players
talk about, well, the rules are stupid, okay, then that's
not my issue, that's not even your issue, that's your
union's issue.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Take it up with them.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
The other part of it is the leagues themselves have
to continue to grow these guardrails because it's a new
generation rising and we just have to be aware of
the change that's happened in our society. Like I saw
a meme the other day that said, we went in
a matter of years from sitting in the back parking
lot of a taco smoking weed and hoping that the
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cops don't come to ripping our vape in the middle
of Target and as I was like walking around with
my pen in my pocket, thinking, God, I feel attacked
right now.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
But that's that's real.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Like, this is what it's become so prevalent in society
now because of legalization across many states, that if you're
living in a state where it's legal, and you're walking
around the park outside, you're just ripping your vape back
like you're not worried about whether or not a cop
walks up to you.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Like that's that's real.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
So cities and outdoor areas and all of these businesses
they have to adjust, they have to adjust to what's
now the norm. Understanding that gambling. Like if you're a
if you're an eighteen year old kid and you you
want to go out and sign up for DraftKings, you can, right,
you want to go out and sign up for any
of these off any of these betting sites, you can.
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So what you have or a group of professional athletes
that are more exposed to the opportunity to gamble than
we've ever seen before, which means the leaguers are gonna
have to account for that. They're gonna have to account
for the fact that the kids that are coming in
now didn't have the same stigma, Like there was this
thought process five years ago that man, you want to
bet on a game, gotta go Like look at look
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at the attendance to Las Vegas from March Madness. It
was down tremendously this year, and people in Vegas are
sitting around saying, well, why is.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Nobody coming here anymore? You don't have to you want.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
To bet on March Madness, you don't have to get
your boys and go to a casino.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
You can.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
You can go to casinos all over the country now
that have easier sports books.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
I've got two, I've got two mega.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Resorts in Connecticut within forty five minutes in my house
that have sports books that rival anything that's available in Vegas.
I also have my phone that has four or five
different apps. And I'm a degenerate, so I'm like, if
I'm bored on a Friday night, I'm like, ah, what
can I play over under own rebounds?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Well, athletes are doing that too, as they're coming up, right,
so kids have more exposure and availability to it, which
means you got to have better guard rails because smarter
people that don't have the same stigma and they understand
the technology better are looking around trying to find ways
to gamble.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Like that's just real for the next generation of athletes.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
I just so hyper focused on the idea that you
get to walk around target ripping a pen and I'm
you know, out here out here fighting fighting for Delta
eight in the state of Tennessee, Like, come on, what
are we doing.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Here next time?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
I like, look, the last time I was flying the
somebody the like you're not supposed to fly with any
of the stuff. I understand that, but you know, I
had some medicals in my bag and I'm not gonna
let the TSA agent started taking everything out, and he's like, man,
you sure do like your flintstones, and so they've been nicknamed.
My friends are like, yeah, I knew ten millions strong
and growing. Look, it's just it's it's part of the
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new reality that we have to face, the new reality.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
The point which what you're saying, and that's the thing
that that's really the thing that that and I'm not
somebody maybe maybe we are the wrong people to speak
on this because neither of us have kids, but that that.
Speaker 6 (13:53):
Really at the crest.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Let's not get into that we're having a nice weekend,
all right, Let's not.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Be a buck running und don't ever sign up for it.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Look, look, I don't walk out of a studio get
hit in the face with a paternity test.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Relax.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
You know how stunned I was when I signed up
for twenty three meek because I don't have any relationship
with my parents and I want to find out more
about like what's in like what I need to know
for my future health and everything, only to find out
that I have two half sisters that nobody ever knew about,
that my dad had two other kids that he didn't
even know about. So you know, I'm just warning you, buck.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
If you ever go out there and try to start testing.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Your lineage, you can find a bunch of little, little
tiny bucks everywhere, little tiny bums.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
I'm also, i'd say ignorance is bliss. I'd yeah, respectfully,
that is not the path that I am looking to
go down at this point in my life. But I
guess my larger issue is where it starts to bleed
into collegiate athletics. Because to your point, an eighteen year
old can sign up for that, but you don't have
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to be eighteen years old to get somebody to make
an account for you. Right, That's the thing that has
been red flagged more more often than not. And where
these gambling outlets are advertising and offering free promos to
college kids on campuses and stuff like that, like the
collegiate athletics is where I get more I think a
little for lack of a better term, conservative about it,
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where I just I don't want those things anywhere near
college sports, even though I do often have moments where
I'm like, God, I wish I could bet on college
player props or these kind of things. The risk versus reward,
the harm that can be done there is so much
greater at the collegiate athletics level than it is in
the pros.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Yeah, one thousand percent right, and brilliantly said by you,
because there's just more and more availability to everybody that's
young to be able to do so many things that
we just couldn't even conceive of pre technology ten fifteen,
twenty twenty five years ago. I don't know how they
stop it. I don't know how they stop it. I
don't know how they control it. I also don't know
(15:51):
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When somebody hears Michael Jordan, are they going to run
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Speaker 4 (18:23):
I don't think so, but Paul George thinks it will.
He's Buck Rising.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
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Speaker 4 (18:58):
I get to MJ in a second. I do have to.
It's fourth of July. You know. Buck and I were
talking about this earlier.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Fireworks everywhere Buck in Nashville, and I think Chris Young
is actually I think the if a quick Google search
is the concert tonight, which is always a blast and
really cool experience, and Chris is great. Here's the thing, though, Buck,
we played that once when I was with the band.
We played the Fireworks Spectacular. I've actually played it twice
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in my life, once with Phil Vassar, once with the
band Perry.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
And the crazy thing about when you're playing it.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Is that you have to time it out, and I
mean you have to time it out exactly for the
beginning of fireworks, like you have.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
To do it right down to the tee.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
You have to finish your last song just as the
fireworks begin. And it was such a wildly complicated like
imagine just sitting there and all of a sudden, We're
in the middle of talking and all of a sudden like, yeah,
this this song needs to go an extra forty five seconds,
Like it was down to the second it had to
be there. It was so stressful for me and just
so so wildly not worth it in the in the
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grand even things like just to be there the entire time,
counting numbers, looking at a set, being like do we.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Have to eliminate this song or keep this all going?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Like it was the most disjointed show I think we've
ever played, just because of the fireworks display on it.
So I always think about the complications when people want
to go watch their their favorite act play on fourth
of July before fireworks.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Why do you have to bog people's enjoy joy down
by giving them all the minutia and all of the
difficulties in your life. Why are you trying to project
this on to people?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Just I was just telling the story, like, look, you're
projecting your your hate of crowds, Like you live in Nashville.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
You're sitting here all the time. You're like, I live
in Nashville. Nashville is so great. And then you're like, yeah,
but there's gonna be one point six million people here.
They don't want to.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
And then I look, if you don't want the joys
that Nashville is providing you today, go live in Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Buddy, Why don't you just go out there and move
to Kentucky.
Speaker 6 (20:46):
No, I you might as.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Well live in Kentucky if you're not gonna go take
advantage of the fireworks in Nashville, all do well.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
I'm not taking advantage of the fireworks in Nashville because
you and I have to be on the air at
four am local time tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
And I don't think you're.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Going to be embedd at nine pm tonight making sure
you get your beauty rest for tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
No, but that doesn't mean that I have to be
you know, just so.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Bucks are made, Baby bucks aren't made by you sitting
at home on a Friday night, like bab.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
He said that I'm staying at home.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
I simply will not be swamped by large, sweaty, drunk,
corn dog eating, proud, beautiful Americans who have come to
our fair city to celebrate America's Independence Day, as they
well should. I just will be partaking in other parts
of the city as opposed to the let freedom sing,
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which is what we call our Fourth of July celebration,
which Fizzi has incorrectly attributed to Chris Young.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
This year.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
It is Dirk's Bentley, Russell Dickerson, Nico Moon, Grace Bowers
in the Hodgepodge, Keisha Rainey, Walker Montgomery, the Nashville Soul Experience,
Charlie Worsham, Kerr in the Band Less Kerr and the
Bayou Band, and the Nashville Symphony, literally everybody. Now, maybe
Chris Young is playing a side stage.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
No, I might. I might have read it wrong.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Maybe he did a previous you know, quick Google search
gave it to me, so I didn't.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I didn't verify.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
That's why I'm on visit music city dot com and
it's got a big old picture of Dirk's Bentley looking
back at me.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
So your your Google search.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Is about as effective as Google AI's feedback that they
typically give you. Chat GPT a far superior product.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
That's why I'm a chat beating GPT girly now, like
I should have gone there instead. It's just, you know,
I gotta.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
I gotta work on some of these the timing of
it by one of these people that I'm worried about
is going to turn it you have you seen the
movie Her?
Speaker 4 (22:34):
No, I haven't seen the movie Her.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
The movie Her is about a man who falls in
love with the artificial intelligence girlfriend that he has created,
and they carry on a relationship. And you know, now
people are creating AI generated girlfriends or significant others, boyfriends,
whatever the case may be, to satisfy their loneliness, or
whatever their conversational needs, whatever the case may be. I
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don't want to dig into people's lives for them.
Speaker 6 (23:01):
I'm glad. I'm glad that you have something in your
life at this point.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Although I will say to your fairness, I rudely yesterday
loaded a picture into chat ept and told it what
I wanted to say on the picture so I could
post it on Instagram. And then I realized afterwards I
just said, you know, I just barked out owners. So
I actually typed in chatchept sorry that was rooted of me,
please and then go oh no. And then Chatchypt responded
and said, Jason, you're always so polite. You know what
(23:26):
chat chypt gets me gets me. Buck Rising doesn't.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Watch that movie, just takes some time.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Nothing loss over the fact too, that you fat shamed
everybody that's gonna be at Let Freedom sing, which is
just a stupid name for that, visit music City.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Do better. And then also corn dogs, Like do we
do corn dogs on the fourth We just do hot
dogs on the fourth of July?
Speaker 6 (23:46):
Right, Oh, people don't do corn dogs.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
But if there was a corn dog eating championship, oh
my god, I would be in on that instead of
watching like the the buns get dipped in the water,
like just at watching somebody try and just manhandle. Like
I don't know how many corn dogs could you eat?
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Like speed eating. You don't have to put them on
a stick. I don't want somebody to die, but like make.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
It, make it because hot dog on a stick, I
mean West Coast kidding me here, hotdog on a stick
is better than sex like that, that hot dog on
a stick is amazing.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
They have cheese on a stick there, Oh it's incredible.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
So like I'm just thinking about somebody gorging themselves on
corn dogs.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
I mean you've created a new tradition.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
Yeah, I don't know why I associate morbid obesity with
corn dogs as opposed to hot dogs. U and I Yeah,
I mean listen, am I am I casting a wide
net if I say that the average weight of.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
To catch them.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
I feel like fat shaming is the one thing I
can still do in this country and get away with
it without without repercussion of being of being canceled or
or shouted down like I, you know, respectfully as a
for you and I have both been fat at relative
of points in our life. So speaking as former fatties,
I feel like we're entitled to, you know, just some
helpful words. It's constructive criticism. It's not it's not bullying,
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it's not fat shaming. It's you know, maybe three corn
dogs on a three corn dogs are three hot dogs
on July fourth, as opposed to this fiver that you
might with seventeen different beers as you're listening to Dirk's
Bentley serenade you on Lower Broadway tonight.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I so Brie are incredible producer.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
At the end of the show has to piece all
of this together into a podcast, which I told you
earlier you can listen to, and then she has to
send out what they call a show note, right, So
she sends out like a little email of everything we
talked about, and you know, the boss to see it.
I oh god, I would love I would just love
to see.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
People document these things.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
Scott, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I just I just want to see how how Bree
tries to put lipstick on this pic that we have
absolutely done this morning.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
And that's not I have an idea already.
Speaker 9 (25:57):
Guy who spends the gym, that shame is the entire
state of Nashvillehere is the entire city of Nashville.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
It's not four hundred dollars at the gym, it's.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
Two twenty at the gym, and then two fifty a
month for my health club.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Like by the way, by the way, he didn't even
use fake air quotes for health club. He said health club,
Like that's a real regular thing to Like, I had
no when you started talking about health Club and then
you were like, that's not my gym, Like no, I
my god. Like I literally I have the debate every
single week on whether or not I should downgrade my
Planet Fitness membership because they charged me an extra fifteen
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bucks to have usage of the hydro massage chair. And
I'm like, is it really worth fifteen twenty bucks for
a hydro massage chair that I sit in every day?
Speaker 4 (26:41):
And you're out here with a health club. You didn't
even say spa.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
It's a health club. It's a health the hell is
a health club. I go there for my sauda. I
go there for cryo therapy. I go there for red
light therapy. They have one of those oxygen chambers that
will work on your brain function. They do injections, they
do na D. It's a it's a full service operation.
It's basically a medical facility. You know, no free shout outs,
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but erte in Nashville, they do a great job.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Wow, bre do you think like screw getting an invite
to the party like.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
The health club?
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Can we plus one to the health club?
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Like?
Speaker 5 (27:18):
I feel like no, See, I pay for the exclusivity
of not having to sit in the sauna with other
people because the sauna.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
The sauna has a Netflix.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
So I was watching I started watching the new the
new Netflix quarterbacks. Well they have a they have Netflix,
and they have HBO and they have Amazon. I just
chose Netflix on that particular day.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
There's there's a it's an infrared son Yes, okay.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
There you go.
Speaker 9 (27:39):
And do they do IV hydrations there?
Speaker 6 (27:41):
They do? Yeah, they do.
Speaker 5 (27:42):
They do specific ivs for people this sounds like an
endorsement deal at this point.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
It sounds.
Speaker 10 (27:47):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
They they do ivs specifically for if you're pregnant and
dealing with whatever pregnant women might deal with at that
particular point in time. They do something called beauty bags,
which I'm a big fan of because I'm so pretty.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
Uh, and all of the other things. But yeah, you can't,
you can't.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
You can come to the health club with me, but
you will have to sit in your own sauna because
I pay, I pay for the right to not have
to sit in the sauna with you.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I'm not gonna lie. I have a infrareds on a
a house, little one.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Oh my god, now we get to the truth.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
I'm not gonna lie when you sit.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
For the justice for the one percent?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yes, no, my god, I feel So what are we
supposed to talk about Michael Michael, Look, we needed a buffer.
We just did a gambling segment. We can't do gambling
and Michael Jordan's back to pack.
Speaker 6 (28:35):
Why is there a lawsuit associate with that?
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Okay, so Michael Jordan has been added, and we don't
know the full capacity of it, but we know that
Michael Jordan is going to have a role on the
new NBC broadcast. Uh for the NBA. NBC is getting
the NBA back. If you are my age, you grew
up with the blah blah blah blah blah basketball blah
blah blah thing.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
All right, so that's coming back to Uh, that's coming
back to the.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Round Ball Rocks for those of you who are more
more sophisticated in your musical attribution.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Written by John Tesh. All right, so there we go. Uh,
my question to you is this. I understand we love
Inside the NBA.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
We all love the NBA. The whole world watches.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
The Inside the NBA show.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
It feels like I will tell you, I don't love it.
I liked it, I don't love it. Just to be
completely honest.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
With you, you don't what don't you love about it?
Speaker 6 (29:27):
I don't love their basketball analysis, like I think. I
think it's a bit dated.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
I think they just end up being old men shouting
at clouds after a while. Ernie is awesome, that the
cast is awesome, the chemistry is awesome. We don't have
to get bogged down. But like I was complaining about
the ESPN Finals coverage because I thought they did I
thought they did a terrible disservice to anybody who actually
cared about that series and the analysis of that series,
where it's just Steve and a screaming and shouting, and
then every once in a while Sham's will update you
(29:51):
on Kevin Durant's landing spot while I'm trying to learn
about the Thunder and the Pacers and the actual advantages
that one team may have over another.
Speaker 6 (29:58):
But that's just me.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
My My biggest issue with inside the NBA is not
the chemistry, not the entertainment value, but like, if I
want to actually learn about the sport of basketball, like
inside the NBA, I'll teaching me a lot about basketball.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
That's that's fair.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
And I do think that part of the reason that
there's been such a divide in the way basketball content
is consumed is because true basketball heads to know that
they're gonna get much better content usually out of things
like the Ringer right, like, they're gonna go They're gonna
go to guys that they know and girls that they know.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
They do great breakdowns.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
That being said, Michael Jordan being at it has people
like Paul George came out and said, Hey, this is gonna.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Be great, Like people are gonna people are gonna flock
through this. They want to hear what MJ has to say.
Is that real to you? Because I I just don't.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
But during a game, particularly like if the Raiders are playing,
I'm gonna watch a game and I don't care if
the play by play in the color guy, Like, I
don't care who they are.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
I just simply don't care.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
I don't think I've ever sat down and said, oh man,
there's a game on tonight, but who's the announcer on it?
And so like Step number one is I never watch
a game for who's on the broadcast. Step number two is,
I don't remember the last time I flocked to a
pregame show, Like I will watch during the football season.
I will watch whatever pregame show I think has a
better vibe and.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Energy that day.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
And if I'm watching, it's fine. But I can't imagine
just for me personally, there is nobody that CBS, Fox
or ESPN is gonna put on that is gonna make
me say, you know what, this is now the one
show that I have to watch because they have this,
Like I get the Manning cast is its own thing,
and like maybe you like watching McAfee or the Maning
cast or something like that during a game. It's a
(31:33):
fun way to watch a game. I get that, I guess,
but I just don't know how many people are suddenly
gonna be sitting here bucks saying I gotta watch NBC
tonight because Michael Jordan's gonna be on and he's gonna be.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
Just electric, maybe the first time.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Right, it'll be a novel too, the first time, because
he famously does not do.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Stuff like this.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
But like, do we even know, like is he appearing weekly?
Is he appearing like monthly? Is he gonna pop on
like four times throughout the course of the season, Like
that's They have been very nebulous about this, and maybe
that's by design because they want to. They want to
drum up the conversation around it. They this is good
publicity for anybody to be talking about it this And
I'm sure I'm gonna sound blasphemous because I don't want
(32:13):
to start any unnecessary fights a on a wonderful July
fourth morning that need be. But like Fitzy, I don't
care what Michael Jordan has to say about basketball.
Speaker 6 (32:22):
When has he ever been interesting? Like he's a winner?
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Right, he is one of the greatest winners of all time, indisputably,
He's one of the best basketball basketball players of all time, indisputably.
But like I'm thirty one, I remember that dude on
the Wizard's not with the Bulls. Yeah, I have YouTube.
I watched the last Dance. Like, I know what Michael
Jordan is, I know what he means, I know what
he's been able to accomplish. I know everything that I
(32:47):
need to know about Michael Jordan. So again, I'm sure
there are people in the audience who will hear this
and think, you idiot, you know nothing.
Speaker 6 (32:54):
You what do you mean?
Speaker 5 (32:55):
You don't care about the greatest, the greatest in that sport,
his opinion on basketball. What my fear is that they're
gonna hype this thing up. He's gonna get on there
and he's gonna do the same thing that Barclay and
Shatt do, which is all I could beat all these dudes.
He's gonna it's gonna make it about Michael Jordan. I
don't care about what Michael Jordan has to say about
Michael Jordan. I care what Michael Jordan has to say
(33:15):
about Steph Curry or Lebron or any of these other
and not even that SGA Anthony Edwards like to get
into a different generation of basketball. Is Michael actually gonna
analyze the basketball players or is he gonna bring it
back to what an indictment it is of all the
other basketball players that they're not him. That is my
that is my biggest fear here.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
I think there are times like look watching Randy Moss,
for example, on the ESPN coverage. He does a really
good job. Harry Douglas, you know, shout out to Harry.
He's like a brother to me, so the man.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
I love Harry.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
I had him as a as a player, and it's
been so cool to see what he's been able to
do in his media career.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah, and like getting to work with him on radio
every day was something that I'll never forget.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Harry, Well, it just felt like I felt like a shot.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
I mean what it didn't feel like it. I mean, oh, Harry,
Harry does a.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Great I'm gonna take these last twenty minutes. I'm gonna
go find it because I live in Tennessee and I
can't vape in a target the way Fitzy Gan like,
I'm just gonna take the rest of.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
The day off, right, I mean, if we could.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
It's gonna be a lot less pleasant for you.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Now, I mean, you're right about that. I take it
all back.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
I'm sorry nobody believes you.
Speaker 6 (34:36):
And also you are correct. Harry Douglas is way more
fun to work with than I am. I understand that.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Harry does a great like Harry's one of those guys
that digs and dives like all he does is watch tape.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
You know.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
And and when I was working with Harry, he'd send
a text at two in the morning and be like,
I saw this play.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
This is so cool.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
I want to talk about it, right, Like, I think
some guys are wired that way, and some guys that are,
Like there are guys that played that no more than
most of us are ever gonna even conceive of knowing
to dive into it so much. And then there are
guys that played that just rely on the fact that
they played and they don't watch anything anymore. And I
just don't think we know right now where any of
that's gonna be. And to your point, like, look, MJ's
(35:12):
gonna be interesting. People were interested in Tom Brady, you know,
Tom Brady being different obviously because he's on the game
calling the game. People were interested in Tom Brady. I
don't know though, that somebody's ever sat there and said,
oh man, you know what, let's go Look, I don't
want a tailgate right now. I gotta go home and
I gotta watch this pregame show. I just think at
some point we all sort of we all fall into
(35:35):
the same circle. And I'm not sure that MJ as
much as having Michael Jordan on there is gonna be incredible.
That's fine. I mean, also, Lebron does content all the time.
Like these guys, they all do content all the time,
and I'm not sure that there's a way for any
of it to separate. Maybe I'm wrong, Maybe Paul George
is right at the very least COO just to NBC
for put as much out there as they can.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
It would be the first thing that Paul George would
have been right about in his career.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
So I didn't need to also say he's the best pure,
pure shooter ever.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
The man called himself Paul Pierce said that, well, it
does not make me any less willing to take shots
at UH. The form The artist formally known as Playoff
p without any championships. Paul George just you know, but
Paul George just irritates me. But that's because I'm a
Pacers man.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Well, uh, speaking of irritating, we got the way we
like to end every show. If you're new to hanging
out with Buck and Eye is with the most incredible
game show in sports talk radio history.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Would you rather is coming at you next?
Speaker 10 (36:35):
On Fox Sports Radio?
Speaker 3 (37:16):
It's two pros and a cup of Joe on Fox
Sports Radio, a Bucking fits takeover. Gotta say that really carefully.
He's Buck Rising, I'm Jason Fitz. We're hanging out with you.
We have been all morning. We will be back with
you tomorrow morning. By the way, for the fellas, usually
the fellas is me and Anthony Gargano.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Anthony's got the weekend off, So.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
Buck Rising gonna continue this trend of early mornings, late
nights and early mornings. We'll see how recovered.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Both of us are for the fifth of July show.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
That could be a doozy fourth of July wouldn't be
possible today without Bree and Mighty Mark behind the scenes,
who are doing God's work, just keeping us on track.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
I don't know how they do it.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
But I am honored and lucky every single Saturday to
get to hang out with them. And they've been a
dream team today. So we appreciate our wonderful crew and
you guys that have taken the time to listen to
us look at me being all like nice and thoughtful,
and you know.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
All this is this is called you speaking from the
heart book.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
He does this every time. I think it's I think
it's artificial. Does it does?
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Because he does this every No, of course, of course
I have thoroughly enjoyed.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
Uh one of them, but yeah, with Mark and Bree.
Speaker 5 (38:25):
But does it let me ask the let me ask
the room back there in Los Angeles? Uh we he
does this, He thanks you guys, and and does so
it in the final segment of every show that he does.
Speaker 6 (38:37):
Does it?
Speaker 5 (38:38):
Does it become a little hollow knowing that he's gonna
do it at the same time in exactly the same way, like,
does it mean a little less at all? You go first, Mark,
that's an answer from I already know how feels about it.
Speaker 9 (38:52):
I usually say something on the last break before we
go back on there because there's no time to say
you know, see it later at the end.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
Of no, so I do that before.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
So it's it sounds sincere to me. It is mm hmm.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
You give me super genuine give your thoughts, Oh, sir,
you wanted to see what Mark would say first?
Speaker 6 (39:14):
I see you breathe together.
Speaker 9 (39:15):
Because I'm the same way like people think I'm fake
all the time, so I just want to think like
I'm a genuine person.
Speaker 6 (39:22):
So I got it.
Speaker 9 (39:22):
So no, I think fits is a hundred percent real.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Buck wouldn't no sincerity unless it was the name of
a stripper he took home.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
All right, it is time.
Speaker 6 (39:31):
It was just at one time.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
It's time for America's favorite games.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
We always a nice light.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Well what's she? Uh? We're gonna try and say this together, Buck,
it is time for wood.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
You rather that's terrible?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
It's easy, guys, don't think too hard.
Speaker 10 (39:53):
I'm not a moor.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Would you rather, Bucket?
Speaker 6 (39:55):
It's no good?
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Or fix it?
Speaker 6 (40:01):
By the way, it's been a little while.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
One one rule in life, never date somebody that wouldn't
have to change their name to be a stripper. That's
just a general rule. Uh, Bri, what do you got
for us? Would you rather? If she's gonna throw the
questions and we'll figure out which one we'd rather.
Speaker 9 (40:16):
Alrighty guys, would you rather get a lifetime supply of
free hot dogs from your favorite stadium or free nachos
at every concert you attend?
Speaker 6 (40:25):
You go first? Can I pass?
Speaker 5 (40:27):
I don't want I don't eat food in public like that,
like no way, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (40:32):
No, it's I'm scared of the internet. I just I
don't want to.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
I don't want to be photographed eating a hot dog.
And also I don't like eating things with my hands,
like I'm a very big utensil person.
Speaker 6 (40:41):
I don't like the mess.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Uh nachos. Nachos are delightful, but like I am a freak.
I will eat nachos with a fork and knife if
I can help it.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
I don't even know how to process. Uh, the two.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
Free hot dogs for life? Free? Howt talks?
Speaker 9 (41:00):
Not free nachos like with the little videos, none of that.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
No see Like look, and I am a fan of
some can cheese. I'm all in on the can cheese.
But there is just something about a hot Like when
I walk into an arena, usually I have ripped the
pen that we were discussing earlier right before I walk in,
And so I'm immediately hungry.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
And the nacho's just never quite hit the way I
want him to.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
A stadium or arena hot dog is always perfect, even
if like in its soggy weirdness of like chewiness, like
there's just something about that smother uncover it and oh yeah, no,
I'm good. I'm all in on that. I might actually
put a little bit of the nacho cheese on the
hot talk, but yeah, I'm taking the free I'm taking
the free hot talk free.
Speaker 6 (41:38):
I'm with you, though, Brave nachos are a superior.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Product definitely in general, yes, but not in the stateium
bree give us any yeah, I oh, go ahead.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
I don't really like hot dogs.
Speaker 9 (41:46):
Would you rather have to give play by play commentary
of your own life twenty four to seven or have
a rival sports commentator do it for you?
Speaker 4 (41:54):
What do you got fit?
Speaker 3 (41:57):
I'm gonna go with I want the rival because that's
gonna be really interesting and he's just gonna piss me.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
Off the whole shit the whole time.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Like having a rival commentate on the hibbitty dibity just
feels like that's a.
Speaker 6 (42:09):
I mean, why do you want somebody narrating your sex? Life.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Why is that where your REGOs game?
Speaker 3 (42:14):
Like all of a sudden, you're like, well, if it's
gonna be commentated on, like, let's go.
Speaker 6 (42:20):
You know, no, let me.
Speaker 5 (42:22):
I'm already self involved enough. Just let me narrate my
own life. I'd be happier for it.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
Okay, Well, I don't know if it's fine.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
This is what's what you want.
Speaker 9 (42:33):
That's good, it makes sense. Would you rather be stuck
in an elevator with a super fan who wants to
debate every call in last night's game, or with someone
who only wants to freestyle rap at you for an hour?
Speaker 5 (42:43):
But oh my god, these are awful options of freestyle rap.
At least then I can just check out and and
and go along for the ride, like the sports fans
are the reason why we exist.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
We love you all very much.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
If you want to, you know, bury me in all
the ins and outs of a debating balls and strikes
in a in a regular season baseball game, I'd.
Speaker 6 (43:04):
Rather take a drill bit to my temple. No, thank you.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
If the freestyle rapper is good, I might be in
for that, But I'm not willing to bet that the
freestyle rapper is good. And I can listen to stupid
sports takes. I mean, we do it every day, so
I'm gonna take the super fan. Yeah, I mean it's
just I'm gonna take the super fan for every every
out to day. I'm I'm comfortable saying super fan in
this one. Mostly I'm comfortable saying thank you to you guys.
(43:28):
Have a safe and happy fourth, be careful with everything
you do. Thanks for hanging out with us. Fucking Fits
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