November 12, 2025 • 40 mins
To wrap up the last hour, The Old P, Petros Papadakis joins the show to talk about USC’s jersey scandal against Northwestern, & a new edition of the Leftovers!
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Speaker 6 (02:11):
Good morning, good morning, Hello, Good morning Brady. He went
to State College and they lost and he never came back.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
He's back on the Oregon trail again, trying to make
his way back to the West coast.
Speaker 7 (02:26):
Yes, your cousin dies of dysentery.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Yes, dysenteria was always an issue. Then if you didn't
ration your portions typhoid yep, then there's that damn river
at the end. Hey p, did you guys get a
proclamation You're first ever from the city of Soritos?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Is that true?
Speaker 7 (02:44):
I think so. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
We've done a lot of local politician stuff because we
do these shows at BJ's that they sell and I
guess they'll never stop selling them, and they do it
every fall, and we do like six events at BJ's
and they're very different from the summer tour stuff we do,
which are more like, I don't know, they have a
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different vibe. So it's hard to make like a bjs,
which are literally exactly the same anywhere you go around
the country pretty much in different strip malls, like that
one Hawaiian University that beat Boise State and basketball the
other night, and Hawaii Pacific University, I believe Home of
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the Sharks, which is literally a strip mall. So to
make those unique and to try to make it a
little different every time, we try to go super celebratory,
hyper local with these places and celebrate the local politics
and talk about their problems, whether it's like trash pickup
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or street vendors.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I love a good trash pickup talk man.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
Anything to make it hyper local.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
And Cerritos, we made friends with the city councilman and
now is the mayor, and he made us a proclamation.
We also celebrated a lot of great things in Cerritos,
like Pat Nixon's statue, Richard Nixon's wife, the first Lady
and she was second lady as well, the Titanium library
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that they have in Cerritos, or the mass amount of
Filipino DJs.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
Oh but either way, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
It was not a proclamation. It sounds like, you know,
techno music with a Filipino vibe stins, Yeah, with tagala
and all that. So that was, yes, that was the
proclamation thing that you saw on Instagram.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I believe yes, it's like it's you know, when I
think Cirito's, I was thinking Filipino DJs as well too.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
There's a lot of Filipino DJ troops.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Now, do you have a go to item a BJ's
when you go there? Are you like the pazookie or
do you do?
Speaker 7 (05:03):
No? I there that much.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
I think it's great, but we've done shows there for
years and years and years, so I stopped eating at
some point.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
But the food is delicious, don't get me wrong. I
just stopped. It's hard to eat and do a show,
you know.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Now, do you feel any sort of shame?
Speaker 7 (05:23):
Yes, all the time? Twenty four to seven.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Do you feel it Catholic?
Speaker 7 (05:29):
Not Catholic?
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Do you feel it orthodox?
Speaker 7 (05:32):
Brady?
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Come on, okay, sorry, the shame is just do.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
You I need to explain this.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
We didn't have many of your types in Notre Dame.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
Well, no, I mean you might have.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
Orthodox Orthodoxy is not very different from Catholicism. However, there
was a split in the church when the church basically began.
The Greek Orthodoxy or Orthodox Christianity is the original Christianity,
because if you read the New Testament, everything that's not
the Gospel is basically a letter to a Greek town.
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Corinthians is corinth, Ephesians is Ephesus, Thessalonians is Thessalonikia.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
On and on. From there.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
You would have your original Pope of the Rome, which
is Peter who went to Italy. And then you'd have
the original pope or leader of the Eastern Church, which
would be Paul, who's not an original twelve Disciple, but
wrote a great deal of the New Testament. He was
in Constantinople, which is modern day Istanbuls. So your people
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of eastern Europe and then all the way down even
to Ethiopia in Africa are Orthodox Serbia, Russia, Armenians, Greeks,
and then on the other side is Catholicism. But Orthodoxy,
like we are, never had a Reformation, so we didn't
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have a bunch of offshoot churches like Protestants and you know,
Lutherans and.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
And all that.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
So anyway, I mean Greek Orthodox there's still a great
deal of guilt, but not as much.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Well, I was just wondering, you know, how much sin
should be attached to you based on the fact that
you know, your program wants to be as misleading as
they are and dress up plays. Actually, I mean it's
it's just someone call it the Trojan Horse, fake pun play.
It's disgusting, disgusting behavior.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
It was actually the Greeks who did the Trojan Horse.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
To This is why, this is why I'm putting on you.
You're you're a former Trojan and your.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
Greek Yeah, which is a real oxymoron, because Troy was
what in modern day if it existed, and I think
it did, is would be modern.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Day Evanston, Illinois, close Asia Minor.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
And so this is no parallel to this play that
we're talking about.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Well, I mean, I guess the Greeks and all different
Greeks from different Greek city states, they were the ones
who were were fighting in Troy and couldn't get through
the walls. They're the ones that fake the surrender, moved
the boats around the corner.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, I saw the movie with Brad Pitt. Yeah, I
know you can't take it all seriously.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Reading the Iliad is actually an important thing that everybody
should do. But either way, yes, we put Dean Blandino
on the show on Monday to have him tell everybody,
like I didn't want to sit there and write a
thing and tell everybody.
Speaker 7 (08:50):
This was illegal and if it wasn't illegal, it was.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Super bush and here's how I feel blah blah blah blah.
Then I'd have every USC, just like Perreira and Blamdino,
have every USC quote unquote expert getting after me and
all the social media ruining my day, even when I
got a written proclamation from Cerritos. So we just put
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Dean Blamdino on and got him to tell everybody that
it was illegal and then just put it to beat
Dean Blaandino was able to do.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
That, so we had Dean on Tuesday too. He doubled
down on that.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Here's what I don't get about that, Petros, is why
do college football fans because it's not just specific to SE,
but why did college football fans have the hardest time
dealing with the truth.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
I mean, I guess because it's such a it's such
a disjointed sport in a great way. In a lot
of ways, we love the chaos of it. We often
talk about that, but I guess it's such a dish
jointed sport that you can sort of have what the
kids these days say, you know, I'm gonna.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Speak my truth. Yeah, okay, your truth.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
It's like, well, there's not really your truth, or I mean,
there's just the truth. It doesn't the truth is not
specific to any individual. But I guess it gives people
there's such tribalism involved that it gives people an opportunity
to defend each other and be totally wrong. From what
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I understand from some inside sources, USC had this play
dialed up for the Michigan game, which would have been
hilarious if they did it against Michigan. You imagine those
people getting all upset about the cheating. And I mean
there's good deception in football, like jumping up and acting
like the snap was over your head when it was
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really to the personal protector and it's a fake punt.
And then there's this kind of deception with rosters and
kicking shoes in.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
A different jersey.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
And that's a former five star quarterback, Sam Hewart. I
remember when he was at U dub and he was
the next Messiah. He was a five star quarterback who
won a bunch of state championships, whose family is synonymous
with Washington football greatness. And he washed out at Washington.
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He wasn't good enough. He was just not that guy
as far as his arm, talent and all that goes.
So I guess he went to cal Paly with his
high school coach who was the offensive coordinator, and then
he got fired, so he left there. And now his
uncle is the offensive coordinator who doesn't call plays for
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Lincoln Riley at USC and that's how he landed there.
But he's a former five star recruiting Now, I mean
a five star quarterback, and now he's sitting there as
a third or fourth guy at USC elaborately trying to
figure out if you're going to run a fake punt.
So I guess the I guess the play was going
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to go by the wayside if they didn't end up
running it, because they had it dialed up for weeks
earlier and they decided to unveil it against Northwestern.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
It was going to expire, were going to use it.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
I guess, Like I get that way sometimes with stories
on the radio. You know, you do something, you write
something up that's sort of evergreen, and you forget to
get to it, forget to get to it. Then you're like,
I'm either going to do this today or we're gonna
scrap it. So maybe that's what happened with the Heward play.
But overall it, I mean, it just it's bush league,
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and there's a lot of different ways to deceive in
a football game. That seems I mean, it just seems
kind of bush. I remember years ago, and Lincoln Riley's
explanation was a lot like Pete Carroll. I remember in
two thousand and nine it was USC versus UCLA rivalry game.
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I was calling, and Pete Carroll took a knee because
they're winning and the game was going to end, and
Rick Newheisl called a time out.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
So the next play, Pete.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Carroll got under center and they threw it sixty yards
downfield with Matt Barkley and scored another touchdown. Oh geez, yeah,
and then U see La got all mad and you know,
everybody came out to the hash marks and started yelling
at each other. And Pete Carroll's explanation was, well, you know,
we had a good look, we thought we could execute it.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
We executed at a high level.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
And that's basically, you know exactly what Lincoln, you know,
with a lot less charisma. That's what Lincoln Riley said
after the game on their Coaches Show or whatever. But
I mean, you heard the nation issue. I know, but
I think it's I thought it was Bushley.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Have you heard the rumors that he's snooping around Yes,
for like other opening Yes.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
And then I heard that from a lot of different
people and a lot of different factions. So whenever there's
talk like that, it means the agents are running around
in chirping.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
So basically it means.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
It's caa that agency is running around in chirp, chirp, chirp.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
What do you make of that, though, Because if you
wanted to be in the SEC, could have stayed at
Oklahoma and have gone or he could have went to LSU.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
He had that opportunity, and then you know, and he ends.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Up at SC and it's like it feels like he
would be better suited staying there then moving to another
SEC school, unless I'm maybe you see that different.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
I mean, I know I know about Lincoln Riley in
Los Angeles. I mean he actually lives in the town
that I live in, So his kids go to school
with a bunch of people that I know, friends and neighbors.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
Well, I don't we don't speak much.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
But I would say that he has done very little
to endear himself to the community and open up to
people and do any kind of outreach which would improve
his status exponentially amongst money people at USC and influential
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people at USC.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
If I had to guess, because.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
You never really know somebody's heart or mind, I don't
think he's comfortable here. I mean, maybe his family likes it,
maybe he likes this town, but he's not comfortable it's
not a great intellectual fit.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
He's not really. I mean they've had to force him.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
They've had to force his hand to recruit locally, which
is really the only true key to success generationally at USC.
They've had to force his hand with the GM position
being legitimate and all kinds of different stuff. So I
don't think. I just don't think he's dynamic enough for
the area. And it's probably more comfortable at a Texas
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or an Arkansas, you know, a place someplace like that.
That would be my guess as to why that they're
snooping around or rumors that are spreading. You know, people
also like to stay in front of the wagon train
because it's not I mean, they're having a good year,
but they could lose to Iowa and lose to Oregon
then it's over, and those.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Very feasible things that could happen.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
They could even lose to UCLA, So even though they're
having a good year right now, it couldn't.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
It might not last. So that would be my guess.
But I don't know.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
But it's not exactly like he's I mean, you're around Brady,
are USC people uber and pressed with Lincoln Riley or
clamoring or begging for him to stay, even if he
was considering leaving, Probably not so. Uh. He hasn't done
much to make himself unexpendable, so to speak, like Pete
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Carroll did, where everybody's like, what are we going to
do without Pete? You know, he crippled us with sanctions.
I don't think that there's much there's a lot of
fervor to keep Lincoln Riley, if he was considering leaving.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
It like it feels like his stock is way down
in comparison to when he first got here.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
Well, yeah, he got here and they brought Caleb Williams,
and they won a bunch of games they couldn't. They
almost made that fourteen playoff but lost to Utah twice.
And after that Lincoln Riley said to everybody, this is
as bad as we're ever going to be. It's going
to be it's going to be off and running from here.
And then they ended up losing to Willie Fritz's two
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lane team in the Cotton Bowl. And honestly, that was
the best UCLA has been in the Lincoln Riley era.
Maybe they're better this year, but that last, that first
year with Caleb Williams when he won the Heisman, was
the best he ever had here at USC And those
were all Clay Helton's guys mostly as far as just
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the structure of the team other than Caleb and what
is Addison? The receiver that they put Carson Palmer's retired
number on for like six.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Games, probably never paid as much as they told him
they were going to.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
But yeah, you heard that rumor, huh that that was
around there.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
That was actually one of the worst Kevin rumors, was
how unhappy he was with not getting paid what he
was told.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
He'd be paid.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
So, yeah, welcome to La Well, Chad Bone's there now,
so that'll happen often.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Oh damn.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
I saw his dad in a Valure sweatsuit at the
World Series.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
A whole bunch.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
That's hut.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
But he also has two tone hair. But either way, yes,
whatever the question was.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
The answers, Yes, yeah, is a His stock is down?
Now where's your How do you feel about the UCLA
leaving the Rose Bowl to go to Sofi Stadium?
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Story, dumbest story and the dumbest idea in the world.
It's a corporate thing, and I guess they're deal with
the Rose bowls really bad, and they get no concessions
and all this.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
So even if they have to pay.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
The Rose Bowl off or go to court, I guess
they're still going to be in the black if they
move and they get a better piece of parking and concessions.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
And this or that.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
But UCLA's biggest problem is that they don't have anything
close enough to where the kids can get drunk and
walk over. And look, we've seen I've talked about this
a whole bunch.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
We've seen.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
I know Houston's having some attendance problems, but when they
left the Astrodome.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
Which they were being swallowed.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Up by, they started to have a lot more success
as a program there in the Big twelve and having
a great year, and Twulane same thing. Once they left
Lake poncha train and got out of the Supernome and
building on campus stadium again, their program thrived and is thriving.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
And UCF I was just there.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
I just did the space game, which I'd never done anything, Like, what.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Do you think?
Speaker 7 (20:23):
I was dumbfounded, Brady, I'd never seen anything.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
And I've played a lot of places and called a
lot of games and a lot of places, and I
understand you know, wideouts and blackouts and the announces, the
grove and all these different things. I'd never ever seen
anything like the UCF Space Game. It was like a
theme game for college football, with different uniforms, a whole
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different format, a different mascot, the Citronat, which was their
original mascot.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
I didn't know. It was originally.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Opened as a feeder school to the Kennedy Spenter, and
it was absolutely everybody was dressed like Bubba Fett or
an alien or a spaceman.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
Everybody had the space gear.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
They had a different uniform with glowing the dark numbers
that celebrated hyperspace research.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
It was absolutely a spectacle.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Just imagine if the moon landing was real, but.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
It was exactly. You should have seen the moon that
night over Orlando.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
It really was.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
I've never experienced anything like that in college football or
calling a college football game. You got to give UCF
a ton of credit for creating that whole thing, because
it is magic.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
It really was.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
But anyway, UCF, who used to play in the Camping
World Stadium or the Citrus Bowl, they moved and obviously
it's been.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Great for their program as well.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
UCLA should have a thirty five thousand person on campus stadium.
They actually have one there, it's called Drake Stadium, that
they could build out and make cool for the kids.
So why don't they, Well a lot of reasons. Number One,
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everything in La sucks. Number two, everything in West La
sucks a thousand times more. And you would have the
HOA in the sixties. I think the Hoas and everything
above UCLA on Sunset Boulevard, which is bel Air, would
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fight at tooth and nail.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
For parking and this and that.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
But you could probably figure out like a Hollywood Bowl.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
I mean they have poly Pavilion.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Which is about half the size of a thirty five
thousand person stadium, or maybe a little less than that,
and you should be able to figure out parking with
like a Hollywood Bowl style shuttle system or I'm not sure,
but there's too much red tape. And I mean at
UCLA you have to get seven signatures just to get
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a new pencil sharpener. Anybody who wants to fire an
assistant coach or do something like that, it takes months
because it ends up in the grinding bureaucracy of the
UC system and an on campus stadium, we just look
they said they were going to build a train here
in southern California for like a billion dollars twenty years ago.
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And I think they built like seven yards a track
and it's cost a billion dollars some stupid thing like that.
And the train is like, you know, doesn't even get
a first down. It's like seven yards. And so basically,
we're too stupid to figure anything out like that, like
they can figure out in New Orleans or Houston or Orlando.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
And that's why they don't have it.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
And you know, the thing is, UCLA should play at
the Rose Bowl, but they shouldn't play all their games
at the Rose Bowl. They should have an on campus
stadium where you play New Mexico or Northwestern or whoever's
in town.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
And then when you play Ohio.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
State or these Big ten teams that have huge fan
bases and people want to come out to the Rose
Bowl and be there because it's a beautiful setting for
college football, as we all know, then you play Ohio State,
Penn State, Michigan whatever at the Rose Bowl two or
three times a year. USC if you have them on
the even years, they should play there. But everybody's too
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stupid to figure that out. This is a corporate move.
And yes, is SOFI Stadium closer than the Rose Bowl
to UCLA? Yes, theoretically it is. But at the same
time you're talking about going the opposite direction in one
of the stretches of freeway in the world, the four
h five between Inglewood and Westwood, and the parking is
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like one hundred bucks seventy five bucks. You for pro
football you have to be in a special tailgate lot
that cost over one hundred dollars to park. The kids
aren't going to go there either, So it's it's it
doesn't It seems like causing a solving a problem with
another problem. They should have an on campus stadium, but
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there's too much red tape and too much bureaucracy to
get that to happen.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Petros, what does the Rose Bowl host then? Outside of
the Rose Bowl if you still is not hosting their
home games there.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Well, they have a flea market, an antique flea market
that's pretty big.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
They'll do concerts.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Is that it like a monthly thing?
Speaker 7 (25:53):
Now? Maybe you know that's a good question.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
I mean the soccer, you know, international soccer, big big
soccer matches, if like you know, Real Madrid comes out here.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Stuff to say from an annual revenue.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Respective, They're like, I don't.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
I don't know what's going on in the historic Arroyo Sekle,
but I don't. I don't for their deal with UCLA,
I mean, how big could that be. It's six games
or whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
But I well, again there's not much attendance and whatnot,
so maybe.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Well they're having trouble. Yeah, there's no doubt. I mean,
Jim Mora was the last coach and maybe it was just.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
About bring it back.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
He was, He's done, great, he's done awesome, Yeah he has.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
He was really kind of the last coach to put
sixty thousand or fifty thousand people, which is much less
than it holds, but fifty sixty thousand people there consistently.
That was Jim Mora, and ever since then it's it's
been a real struggle to get anybody in there unless
they're playing USC or or some they just haven't been good.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
It's pretty disrespectful. You skip over the drone art show
that's going to be there this weekend at the road.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
Okay, well there you go. There's something. Yeah, check the
schedule that Jonas like he just did. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
The turkey trot as well too. Petros quickly, do you
have a Are you calling a game this weekend?
Speaker 7 (27:17):
Yeah? Yeah, I'm going to Fresno.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
Oh yeah, versus Wyoming.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Get that try tip, homie.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Yeah, everybody talks about the try tip. I don't want
to wait in line for a sandwich.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Though, I'll send a BA. That's a clatt would do?
Speaker 7 (27:36):
What tell me I'm wrong? I can't. I can't tell
you you're wrong.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
I remember doing a game with Joel, smoke a cigarette
right before the game and send.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
The PA for it all mad.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Now you're gonna ruin his by the way, I asked
him that, and you threw me under the bus completely.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
So I just want you to know what do you mean.
I'm not going into it on the air. I'm just
saying you just there was a lot.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
No, I didn't.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
You just brought up the whole thing. You brought up Joel,
and then you brought up that's pretty Jonas. You got
to back me up there. He brought all of that
up and then he goes do it. I'll say it then,
I'll say it. No, no, no, please, okay. But I
just I remember doing a game with Joel at Baylor.
(28:24):
It was a big game. It was Baylor Oklahoma, and
and it was like two hours before the game, right,
and we were in.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
The concourse parliaments.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
We weren't smoking at that point, but I remember saying Joel, stop,
I want to buy a T shirt. It was like
two hours before the game, and He's like, I can't wait.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
He went up into the booth.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
He couldn't wait for me. And I got into the
booth like thirty seconds after him, and I was like,
all right, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
That would give me.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
It would give him so much more street cred if
people knew about ripping darts.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
But all right, Petro used to be a lot more
nervous before the games. Let's just put it.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I think Gus has listened them up. Gus is listening
them up.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Well, you know that's a vape.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
That's a different Oh good, Petro. Some some money shows where
you can hear Petros alongside Matt.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Joel on one of those robot d's.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Yeah on the blow towards a five seventy l a
Sports Get him on X at the old P Thanks
P Dude again next week.
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There he is.
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(31:00):
the quote unquote breaking news uh in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
UH.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
The reports are that Jamis Winston will be starting a
quarterback for the New York Giants. Jackson Dard obviously dealing
with the concussion, and so Jamis Winston is going to
be the starting quarterback. He jumps over Russell Wilson, and
so it'll be, uh, Jamis out there slinging it around
for the Giants this weekend. And you know the Giants
(31:25):
obviously it's been a busy week. They fired Brian Dayball,
their coach, and so you know, there's a lot of conversation.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
About Mike Kafka takes over as the interim head coach
who was the OC, which a lot of people think
Mike Kafka is one of those young budding stars offensive mind.
So he gets his opportunity to see if if you
can't maybe put a stamp on things. But remember Jamis
got what seven starts was it was last year with
the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Yeah, so he looked good, has some games.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Yeah, it hasn't been that long since he's you know,
started play some football. I know it's he's had gaps
in time. And obviously he spent some time with the
Saints more as a backup. But I think that tenure
with the Saints really kind of revamped a little bit
of his career and really just a longevity too, and
people seeing him as a guy who couldn't come in
(32:17):
get them some wins, play better football.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
That's stinting. With the Saints, I.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Think he threw like twelve thirteen to fourteen touchdowns with
three picks, and that was his whole thing, was like
he turned the football over too much, even his final time,
final year at at Florida State, and obviously is you
know that season he led the league in passing. He
threw for over five thousand yards, you know, through a
lot of touchdowns, but through thirty picks too, led the
(32:42):
league and picks that was always kind of the knock that,
people were like, ah, if you could just get out.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Of a system. I think he's done a decent job
of that.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
The problem is in Cleveland he had hit a bunch
of turnovers and again, you know that was a team
that you know, largely struggled last year.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
So comes with the territory.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
But like he can he can help this offense out,
like I do think if he can spread the football
around with that defense, the way that they've been defense
has been able to play outside of the Denver collapse.
You know, I think you're you're gonna have a team
that's gonna be a little bit competitive here, So optimism important.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
They've got the Packers. One thing you say about green
Bay there, you know, their offense has been kind of
wretched in the past couple of games. They're defensively they've
been great, like yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
But the Packers played down to their competition. They play
up to their competition. And when when you play like that, unfortunately,
it leads you to be a team that is going
to be in a tight game every game and you
really don't know what you're gonna get or it's a
bit confusing when you see their team get up for
some of the bigger games, but then also play down.
It's I mean, I'm not saying that Carolina is necessarily
(33:49):
a bad football team. You know, they're running in five hundred,
but you know, you look at some of the other
games they played this season, you're like, what the hell
was that?
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Yeah, it's not been great, and there there's been some
people thrown out the idea that, you know, is Matt
Lafleor's job in jeopardy. Can we just like, let's stop, like,
Matt Lafleor is not gonna get fired. Okay, they're they're in.
They've after the Pittsburgh game, they've not looked the same,
but they're a seven point favorite on the road at
(34:21):
the Giants. For a reason. There's still a good football team.
And you look at Green Bay and the idea that
Matt Laflor's job would be in jeopardy is kind of
kind of wild, kind of doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
He's made the playoffs whatevery year but one during his tenure.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
It's crazy, it does.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
I think his worst season, they were only like eighty
nine a few years back, Like, what are we talking
about here? He probably has one of the best win
percentages for a head coach in his first seven years.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Has that long he's been.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Coaching now, Yeah, he probably has one of the better
win percentages, like in NFL history.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I mean he's got to be over six hundred.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
He's seventy two and thirty six.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, like one, I just he's gonna get fired.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Nice But that's but this is it was like the
Nick Sirianni stuff, Like when there were people throwing that
out there, it never made any sense. And the fact
that it was even a talking point or a discussion,
like you can say whatever you want about Siriani and
his demeanor and his personality. They win games. So does
he just not get any credit for that? I mean,
(35:23):
does Matt Lafleur not get any credit for the fact that,
you know, they're at where they're at, they've never had
you know, outside of twenty twenty two when they finished
eight to nine, they've never had a losing It just
none of it makes any sense. But you know it's
nowadays everybody wants they demand results. And plus if they
get to the postseason, like it would not surprise me
(35:44):
in the NFC if Green Bay went on a run,
it wouldn't surprise me at all. They've got the defense
to do it. If they could run the football and
get anything going offensively, like I picked Green Bay to
go to the super Bowl, that should be a good
news for Packers fans, right based on the pick of them.
If I've got your back in something, you want to
be on that side, I can tell you that for sure.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Why do you say this? You know that's a lie.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
You know that you were typically are the kiss of
death when it comes to your gambling, your betting. Then
this is not a different audience. Well, this is our
audience that listens to our pick show. You are blow
five hundred for the season. Now you're terrible.
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Speaker 8 (37:51):
Yesterday it was announced that the CFL is going to
allow its players to participate in the flag football and
the twenty twenty eight Summer Olympics out here.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Why would they have banned them from it? I don't
really understand that. It's like, you're a league that's struggling
a bit. You could use all the publicity you can get.
Speaker 8 (38:09):
There was like an overlap with a regular season. I
think that was like one of the issues. But they're
going to implement the rules and they're their players participate.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
I got there's more people to be watching the Olympics
in the CFL. No disrespect, but.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
That's just the truth.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
By the way, if I mean, look, let's be real.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
The players who'd be playing, I would assume are going
to be playing for Canada. They're not gonna be playing
for the US flag football team. But other leagues take
breaks in the middle of the season for international play
for the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
This isn't like that uncommon.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
I do believe the English Premier League is going through
a break right now for the next couple of weeks.
I think hockey's done it during various periods, so I'm
not really sure why that was an issue in the
first place.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Do you have a CFL team, like, uh, he had
to go with one? I think I know.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
If I had to, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
It's between the Hamilton tiger Cats or the Toronto Argonauts.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
I was going to say the Saskatchewan rough Riders.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, but that's well, that's a whole other story for you.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
So I'm a Calgary stam Peters guy, Like that's just me.
That's the way I operate, you know. Okay, yeah, I'm
more of a Calgary guy. But uh, you know, it's
just I mean, it used to be the Edmonton Eskimos,
but you can't say that.
Speaker 7 (39:27):
All right?
Speaker 4 (39:27):
What else we got he's just naming?
Speaker 3 (39:31):
No, no, just let me know.
Speaker 8 (39:32):
Yeah, some sad dudes. Jaguars rookie Travis Hunter. His season
is over. He just went underwent a season ending surgery
and his knee and he's going to miss the rest
of this season.
Speaker 7 (39:43):
All right.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
Does this have anything to do with the wear and
tear on him from coming from college, Because there are
some people out there who are speculating that it's not
so much what he's done so far in the NFL,
it's all the plays and snaps that he played in
college that have maybe subjected him to this sort of injury.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Are you on that buying that?
Speaker 7 (40:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (40:02):
Like what do we I mean, you played a lot
and the idea that people thought that that was just
going to translate over into the NFL, it never made
any sense to me. I didn't I didn't understand why
they gave up what they did to get him. I
really didn't like they gave up a lot. Their first
round pick is gone next year, and you know, good
for the Browns that they were to able to recoup
(40:23):
that much in return for him, But it didn't It
didn't make sense to me why they would make that move.
But seems like a good dude. Hopefully he can bounce.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Back, you know. I hope that's a great player, tremendous talent, Elsie.
Hopefully love Arkin bounce back.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Yeah, maybe see you tomorrow,
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you get them on ex at the old p Petros.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
Good morning, good morning, Hello, Good morning Brady. He went
to State College and they lost and he never came back.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
He's back on the Oregon trail again, trying to make
his way back to the West coast.
Speaker 7 (02:26):
Yes, your cousin dies of dysentery.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Yes, dysenteria was always an issue. Then if you didn't
ration your portions typhoid yep, then there's that damn river
at the end. Hey p, did you guys get a
proclamation You're first ever from the city of Soritos?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Is that true?
Speaker 7 (02:44):
I think so. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
We've done a lot of local politician stuff because we
do these shows at BJ's that they sell and I
guess they'll never stop selling them, and they do it
every fall, and we do like six events at BJ's
and they're very different from the summer tour stuff we do,
which are more like, I don't know, they have a
(03:09):
different vibe. So it's hard to make like a bjs,
which are literally exactly the same anywhere you go around
the country pretty much in different strip malls, like that
one Hawaiian University that beat Boise State and basketball the
other night, and Hawaii Pacific University, I believe Home of
(03:30):
the Sharks, which is literally a strip mall. So to
make those unique and to try to make it a
little different every time, we try to go super celebratory,
hyper local with these places and celebrate the local politics
and talk about their problems, whether it's like trash pickup
(03:54):
or street vendors.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I love a good trash pickup talk man.
Speaker 7 (03:59):
Anything to make it hyper local.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
And Cerritos, we made friends with the city councilman and
now is the mayor, and he made us a proclamation.
We also celebrated a lot of great things in Cerritos,
like Pat Nixon's statue, Richard Nixon's wife, the first Lady
and she was second lady as well, the Titanium library
(04:23):
that they have in Cerritos, or the mass amount of
Filipino DJs.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
Oh but either way, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
It was not a proclamation. It sounds like, you know,
techno music with a Filipino vibe stins, Yeah, with tagala
and all that. So that was, yes, that was the
proclamation thing that you saw on Instagram.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I believe yes, it's like it's you know, when I
think Cirito's, I was thinking Filipino DJs as well too.
Speaker 7 (04:55):
There's a lot of Filipino DJ troops.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Now, do you have a go to item a BJ's
when you go there? Are you like the pazookie or
do you do?
Speaker 7 (05:03):
No? I there that much.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
I think it's great, but we've done shows there for
years and years and years, so I stopped eating at
some point.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
But the food is delicious, don't get me wrong. I
just stopped. It's hard to eat and do a show,
you know.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Now, do you feel any sort of shame?
Speaker 7 (05:23):
Yes, all the time? Twenty four to seven.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Do you feel it Catholic?
Speaker 7 (05:29):
Not Catholic?
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Do you feel it orthodox?
Speaker 7 (05:32):
Brady?
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Come on, okay, sorry, the shame is just do.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
You I need to explain this.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
We didn't have many of your types in Notre Dame.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
Well, no, I mean you might have.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
Orthodox Orthodoxy is not very different from Catholicism. However, there
was a split in the church when the church basically began.
The Greek Orthodoxy or Orthodox Christianity is the original Christianity,
because if you read the New Testament, everything that's not
the Gospel is basically a letter to a Greek town.
(06:06):
Corinthians is corinth, Ephesians is Ephesus, Thessalonians is Thessalonikia.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
On and on. From there.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
You would have your original Pope of the Rome, which
is Peter who went to Italy. And then you'd have
the original pope or leader of the Eastern Church, which
would be Paul, who's not an original twelve Disciple, but
wrote a great deal of the New Testament. He was
in Constantinople, which is modern day Istanbuls. So your people
(06:40):
of eastern Europe and then all the way down even
to Ethiopia in Africa are Orthodox Serbia, Russia, Armenians, Greeks,
and then on the other side is Catholicism. But Orthodoxy,
like we are, never had a Reformation, so we didn't
(07:03):
have a bunch of offshoot churches like Protestants and you know,
Lutherans and.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
And all that.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
So anyway, I mean Greek Orthodox there's still a great
deal of guilt, but not as much.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Well, I was just wondering, you know, how much sin
should be attached to you based on the fact that
you know, your program wants to be as misleading as
they are and dress up plays. Actually, I mean it's
it's just someone call it the Trojan Horse, fake pun play.
It's disgusting, disgusting behavior.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
It was actually the Greeks who did the Trojan Horse.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
To This is why, this is why I'm putting on you.
You're you're a former Trojan and your.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
Greek Yeah, which is a real oxymoron, because Troy was
what in modern day if it existed, and I think
it did, is would be modern.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Day Evanston, Illinois, close Asia Minor.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
And so this is no parallel to this play that
we're talking about.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Well, I mean, I guess the Greeks and all different
Greeks from different Greek city states, they were the ones
who were were fighting in Troy and couldn't get through
the walls. They're the ones that fake the surrender, moved
the boats around the corner.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, I saw the movie with Brad Pitt. Yeah, I
know you can't take it all seriously.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Reading the Iliad is actually an important thing that everybody
should do. But either way, yes, we put Dean Blandino
on the show on Monday to have him tell everybody,
like I didn't want to sit there and write a
thing and tell everybody.
Speaker 7 (08:50):
This was illegal and if it wasn't illegal, it was.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Super bush and here's how I feel blah blah blah blah.
Then I'd have every USC, just like Perreira and Blamdino,
have every USC quote unquote expert getting after me and
all the social media ruining my day, even when I
got a written proclamation from Cerritos. So we just put
(09:16):
Dean Blamdino on and got him to tell everybody that
it was illegal and then just put it to beat
Dean Blaandino was able to do.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
That, so we had Dean on Tuesday too. He doubled
down on that.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Here's what I don't get about that, Petros, is why
do college football fans because it's not just specific to SE,
but why did college football fans have the hardest time
dealing with the truth.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
I mean, I guess because it's such a it's such
a disjointed sport in a great way. In a lot
of ways, we love the chaos of it. We often
talk about that, but I guess it's such a dish
jointed sport that you can sort of have what the
kids these days say, you know, I'm gonna.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Speak my truth. Yeah, okay, your truth.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
It's like, well, there's not really your truth, or I mean,
there's just the truth. It doesn't the truth is not
specific to any individual. But I guess it gives people
there's such tribalism involved that it gives people an opportunity
to defend each other and be totally wrong. From what
(10:31):
I understand from some inside sources, USC had this play
dialed up for the Michigan game, which would have been
hilarious if they did it against Michigan. You imagine those
people getting all upset about the cheating. And I mean
there's good deception in football, like jumping up and acting
like the snap was over your head when it was
(10:53):
really to the personal protector and it's a fake punt.
And then there's this kind of deception with rosters and
kicking shoes in.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
A different jersey.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
And that's a former five star quarterback, Sam Hewart. I
remember when he was at U dub and he was
the next Messiah. He was a five star quarterback who
won a bunch of state championships, whose family is synonymous
with Washington football greatness. And he washed out at Washington.
(11:24):
He wasn't good enough. He was just not that guy
as far as his arm, talent and all that goes.
So I guess he went to cal Paly with his
high school coach who was the offensive coordinator, and then
he got fired, so he left there. And now his
uncle is the offensive coordinator who doesn't call plays for
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Lincoln Riley at USC and that's how he landed there.
But he's a former five star recruiting Now, I mean
a five star quarterback, and now he's sitting there as
a third or fourth guy at USC elaborately trying to
figure out if you're going to run a fake punt.
So I guess the I guess the play was going
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to go by the wayside if they didn't end up
running it, because they had it dialed up for weeks
earlier and they decided to unveil it against Northwestern.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
It was going to expire, were going to use it.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
I guess, Like I get that way sometimes with stories
on the radio. You know, you do something, you write
something up that's sort of evergreen, and you forget to
get to it, forget to get to it. Then you're like,
I'm either going to do this today or we're gonna
scrap it. So maybe that's what happened with the Heward play.
But overall it, I mean, it just it's bush league,
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and there's a lot of different ways to deceive in
a football game. That seems I mean, it just seems
kind of bush. I remember years ago, and Lincoln Riley's
explanation was a lot like Pete Carroll. I remember in
two thousand and nine it was USC versus UCLA rivalry game.
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I was calling, and Pete Carroll took a knee because
they're winning and the game was going to end, and
Rick Newheisl called a time out.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
So the next play, Pete.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
Carroll got under center and they threw it sixty yards
downfield with Matt Barkley and scored another touchdown. Oh geez, yeah,
and then U see La got all mad and you know,
everybody came out to the hash marks and started yelling
at each other. And Pete Carroll's explanation was, well, you know,
we had a good look, we thought we could execute it.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
We executed at a high level.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
And that's basically, you know exactly what Lincoln, you know,
with a lot less charisma. That's what Lincoln Riley said
after the game on their Coaches Show or whatever. But
I mean, you heard the nation issue. I know, but
I think it's I thought it was Bushley.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Have you heard the rumors that he's snooping around Yes,
for like other opening Yes.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
And then I heard that from a lot of different
people and a lot of different factions. So whenever there's
talk like that, it means the agents are running around
in chirping.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
So basically it means.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
It's caa that agency is running around in chirp, chirp, chirp.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
What do you make of that, though, Because if you
wanted to be in the SEC, could have stayed at
Oklahoma and have gone or he could have went to LSU.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
He had that opportunity, and then you know, and he ends.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Up at SC and it's like it feels like he
would be better suited staying there then moving to another
SEC school, unless I'm maybe you see that different.
Speaker 7 (14:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
I mean, I know I know about Lincoln Riley in
Los Angeles. I mean he actually lives in the town
that I live in, So his kids go to school
with a bunch of people that I know, friends and neighbors.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
Well, I don't we don't speak much.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
But I would say that he has done very little
to endear himself to the community and open up to
people and do any kind of outreach which would improve
his status exponentially amongst money people at USC and influential
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people at USC.
Speaker 7 (15:23):
If I had to guess, because.
Speaker 6 (15:24):
You never really know somebody's heart or mind, I don't
think he's comfortable here. I mean, maybe his family likes it,
maybe he likes this town, but he's not comfortable it's
not a great intellectual fit.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
He's not really. I mean they've had to force him.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
They've had to force his hand to recruit locally, which
is really the only true key to success generationally at USC.
They've had to force his hand with the GM position
being legitimate and all kinds of different stuff. So I
don't think. I just don't think he's dynamic enough for
the area. And it's probably more comfortable at a Texas
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or an Arkansas, you know, a place someplace like that.
That would be my guess as to why that they're
snooping around or rumors that are spreading. You know, people
also like to stay in front of the wagon train
because it's not I mean, they're having a good year,
but they could lose to Iowa and lose to Oregon
then it's over, and those.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Very feasible things that could happen.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
They could even lose to UCLA, So even though they're
having a good year right now, it couldn't.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
It might not last. So that would be my guess.
But I don't know.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
But it's not exactly like he's I mean, you're around Brady,
are USC people uber and pressed with Lincoln Riley or
clamoring or begging for him to stay, even if he
was considering leaving, Probably not so. Uh. He hasn't done
much to make himself unexpendable, so to speak, like Pete
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Carroll did, where everybody's like, what are we going to
do without Pete? You know, he crippled us with sanctions.
I don't think that there's much there's a lot of
fervor to keep Lincoln Riley, if he was considering leaving.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
It like it feels like his stock is way down
in comparison to when he first got here.
Speaker 6 (17:26):
Well, yeah, he got here and they brought Caleb Williams,
and they won a bunch of games they couldn't. They
almost made that fourteen playoff but lost to Utah twice.
And after that Lincoln Riley said to everybody, this is
as bad as we're ever going to be. It's going
to be it's going to be off and running from here.
And then they ended up losing to Willie Fritz's two
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lane team in the Cotton Bowl. And honestly, that was
the best UCLA has been in the Lincoln Riley era.
Maybe they're better this year, but that last, that first
year with Caleb Williams when he won the Heisman, was
the best he ever had here at USC And those
were all Clay Helton's guys mostly as far as just
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the structure of the team other than Caleb and what
is Addison? The receiver that they put Carson Palmer's retired
number on for like six.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Games, probably never paid as much as they told him
they were going to.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
But yeah, you heard that rumor, huh that that was
around there.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
That was actually one of the worst Kevin rumors, was
how unhappy he was with not getting paid what he
was told.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
He'd be paid.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
So, yeah, welcome to La Well, Chad Bone's there now,
so that'll happen often.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Oh damn.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
I saw his dad in a Valure sweatsuit at the
World Series.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
A whole bunch.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
That's hut.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
But he also has two tone hair. But either way, yes,
whatever the question was.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
The answers, Yes, yeah, is a His stock is down?
Now where's your How do you feel about the UCLA
leaving the Rose Bowl to go to Sofi Stadium?
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Story, dumbest story and the dumbest idea in the world.
It's a corporate thing, and I guess they're deal with
the Rose bowls really bad, and they get no concessions
and all this.
Speaker 7 (19:22):
So even if they have to pay.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
The Rose Bowl off or go to court, I guess
they're still going to be in the black if they
move and they get a better piece of parking and concessions.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
And this or that.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
But UCLA's biggest problem is that they don't have anything
close enough to where the kids can get drunk and
walk over. And look, we've seen I've talked about this
a whole bunch.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
We've seen.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
I know Houston's having some attendance problems, but when they
left the Astrodome.
Speaker 7 (19:54):
Which they were being swallowed.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Up by, they started to have a lot more success
as a program there in the Big twelve and having
a great year, and Twulane same thing. Once they left
Lake poncha train and got out of the Supernome and
building on campus stadium again, their program thrived and is thriving.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
And UCF I was just there.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
I just did the space game, which I'd never done anything, Like, what.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Do you think?
Speaker 7 (20:23):
I was dumbfounded, Brady, I'd never seen anything.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
And I've played a lot of places and called a
lot of games and a lot of places, and I
understand you know, wideouts and blackouts and the announces, the
grove and all these different things. I'd never ever seen
anything like the UCF Space Game. It was like a
theme game for college football, with different uniforms, a whole
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different format, a different mascot, the Citronat, which was their
original mascot.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
I didn't know. It was originally.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Opened as a feeder school to the Kennedy Spenter, and
it was absolutely everybody was dressed like Bubba Fett or
an alien or a spaceman.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
Everybody had the space gear.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
They had a different uniform with glowing the dark numbers
that celebrated hyperspace research.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
It was absolutely a spectacle.
Speaker 4 (21:24):
Just imagine if the moon landing was real, but.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
It was exactly. You should have seen the moon that
night over Orlando.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
It really was.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
I've never experienced anything like that in college football or
calling a college football game. You got to give UCF
a ton of credit for creating that whole thing, because
it is magic.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
It really was.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
But anyway, UCF, who used to play in the Camping
World Stadium or the Citrus Bowl, they moved and obviously
it's been.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Great for their program as well.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
UCLA should have a thirty five thousand person on campus stadium.
They actually have one there, it's called Drake Stadium, that
they could build out and make cool for the kids.
So why don't they, Well a lot of reasons. Number One,
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everything in La sucks. Number two, everything in West La
sucks a thousand times more. And you would have the
HOA in the sixties. I think the Hoas and everything
above UCLA on Sunset Boulevard, which is bel Air, would
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fight at tooth and nail.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
For parking and this and that.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
But you could probably figure out like a Hollywood Bowl.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
I mean they have poly Pavilion.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Which is about half the size of a thirty five
thousand person stadium, or maybe a little less than that,
and you should be able to figure out parking with
like a Hollywood Bowl style shuttle system or I'm not sure,
but there's too much red tape. And I mean at
UCLA you have to get seven signatures just to get
(23:14):
a new pencil sharpener. Anybody who wants to fire an
assistant coach or do something like that, it takes months
because it ends up in the grinding bureaucracy of the
UC system and an on campus stadium, we just look
they said they were going to build a train here
in southern California for like a billion dollars twenty years ago.
(23:38):
And I think they built like seven yards a track
and it's cost a billion dollars some stupid thing like that.
And the train is like, you know, doesn't even get
a first down. It's like seven yards. And so basically,
we're too stupid to figure anything out like that, like
they can figure out in New Orleans or Houston or Orlando.
Speaker 7 (24:01):
And that's why they don't have it.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
And you know, the thing is, UCLA should play at
the Rose Bowl, but they shouldn't play all their games
at the Rose Bowl. They should have an on campus
stadium where you play New Mexico or Northwestern or whoever's
in town.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
And then when you play Ohio.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
State or these Big ten teams that have huge fan
bases and people want to come out to the Rose
Bowl and be there because it's a beautiful setting for
college football, as we all know, then you play Ohio State,
Penn State, Michigan whatever at the Rose Bowl two or
three times a year. USC if you have them on
the even years, they should play there. But everybody's too
(24:45):
stupid to figure that out. This is a corporate move.
And yes, is SOFI Stadium closer than the Rose Bowl
to UCLA? Yes, theoretically it is. But at the same
time you're talking about going the opposite direction in one
of the stretches of freeway in the world, the four
h five between Inglewood and Westwood, and the parking is
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like one hundred bucks seventy five bucks. You for pro
football you have to be in a special tailgate lot
that cost over one hundred dollars to park. The kids
aren't going to go there either, So it's it's it
doesn't It seems like causing a solving a problem with
another problem. They should have an on campus stadium, but
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there's too much red tape and too much bureaucracy to
get that to happen.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Petros, what does the Rose Bowl host then? Outside of
the Rose Bowl if you still is not hosting their
home games there.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Well, they have a flea market, an antique flea market
that's pretty big.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
They'll do concerts.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Is that it like a monthly thing?
Speaker 7 (25:53):
Now? Maybe you know that's a good question.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
I mean the soccer, you know, international soccer, big big
soccer matches, if like you know, Real Madrid comes out here.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Stuff to say from an annual revenue.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Respective, They're like, I don't.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
I don't know what's going on in the historic Arroyo Sekle,
but I don't. I don't for their deal with UCLA,
I mean, how big could that be. It's six games
or whatever.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
But I well, again there's not much attendance and whatnot,
so maybe.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Well they're having trouble. Yeah, there's no doubt. I mean,
Jim Mora was the last coach and maybe it was just.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
About bring it back.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
He was, He's done, great, he's done awesome, Yeah he has.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
He was really kind of the last coach to put
sixty thousand or fifty thousand people, which is much less
than it holds, but fifty sixty thousand people there consistently.
That was Jim Mora, and ever since then it's it's
been a real struggle to get anybody in there unless
they're playing USC or or some they just haven't been good.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
It's pretty disrespectful. You skip over the drone art show
that's going to be there this weekend at the road.
Speaker 7 (27:05):
Okay, well there you go. There's something. Yeah, check the
schedule that Jonas like he just did. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
The turkey trot as well too. Petros quickly, do you
have a Are you calling a game this weekend?
Speaker 7 (27:17):
Yeah? Yeah, I'm going to Fresno.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
Oh yeah, versus Wyoming.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Get that try tip, homie.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Yeah, everybody talks about the try tip. I don't want
to wait in line for a sandwich.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Though, I'll send a BA. That's a clatt would do?
Speaker 7 (27:36):
What tell me I'm wrong? I can't. I can't tell
you you're wrong.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
I remember doing a game with Joel, smoke a cigarette
right before the game and send.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
The PA for it all mad.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Now you're gonna ruin his by the way, I asked
him that, and you threw me under the bus completely.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
So I just want you to know what do you mean.
I'm not going into it on the air. I'm just
saying you just there was a lot.
Speaker 7 (28:01):
No, I didn't.
Speaker 6 (28:01):
You just brought up the whole thing. You brought up Joel,
and then you brought up that's pretty Jonas. You got
to back me up there. He brought all of that
up and then he goes do it. I'll say it then,
I'll say it. No, no, no, please, okay. But I
just I remember doing a game with Joel at Baylor.
(28:24):
It was a big game. It was Baylor Oklahoma, and
and it was like two hours before the game, right,
and we were in.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
The concourse parliaments.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
We weren't smoking at that point, but I remember saying Joel, stop,
I want to buy a T shirt. It was like
two hours before the game, and He's like, I can't wait.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
He went up into the booth.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
He couldn't wait for me. And I got into the
booth like thirty seconds after him, and I was like,
all right, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
That would give me.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
It would give him so much more street cred if
people knew about ripping darts.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
But all right, Petro used to be a lot more
nervous before the games. Let's just put it.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I think Gus has listened them up. Gus is listening
them up.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
Well, you know that's a vape.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
That's a different Oh good, Petro. Some some money shows where
you can hear Petros alongside Matt.
Speaker 7 (29:22):
Joel on one of those robot d's.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Yeah on the blow towards a five seventy l a
Sports Get him on X at the old P Thanks
P Dude again next week.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
There he is.
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(31:00):
the quote unquote breaking news uh in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
UH.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
The reports are that Jamis Winston will be starting a
quarterback for the New York Giants. Jackson Dard obviously dealing
with the concussion, and so Jamis Winston is going to
be the starting quarterback. He jumps over Russell Wilson, and
so it'll be, uh, Jamis out there slinging it around
for the Giants this weekend. And you know the Giants
(31:25):
obviously it's been a busy week. They fired Brian Dayball,
their coach, and so you know, there's a lot of conversation.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
About Mike Kafka takes over as the interim head coach
who was the OC, which a lot of people think
Mike Kafka is one of those young budding stars offensive mind.
So he gets his opportunity to see if if you
can't maybe put a stamp on things. But remember Jamis
got what seven starts was it was last year with
the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Yeah, so he looked good, has some games.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Yeah, it hasn't been that long since he's you know,
started play some football. I know it's he's had gaps
in time. And obviously he spent some time with the
Saints more as a backup. But I think that tenure
with the Saints really kind of revamped a little bit
of his career and really just a longevity too, and
people seeing him as a guy who couldn't come in
(32:17):
get them some wins, play better football.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
That's stinting. With the Saints, I.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Think he threw like twelve thirteen to fourteen touchdowns with
three picks, and that was his whole thing, was like
he turned the football over too much, even his final time,
final year at at Florida State, and obviously is you
know that season he led the league in passing. He
threw for over five thousand yards, you know, through a
lot of touchdowns, but through thirty picks too, led the
(32:42):
league and picks that was always kind of the knock that,
people were like, ah, if you could just get out.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Of a system. I think he's done a decent job
of that.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
The problem is in Cleveland he had hit a bunch
of turnovers and again, you know that was a team
that you know, largely struggled last year.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
So comes with the territory.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
But like he can he can help this offense out,
like I do think if he can spread the football
around with that defense, the way that they've been defense
has been able to play outside of the Denver collapse.
You know, I think you're you're gonna have a team
that's gonna be a little bit competitive here, So optimism important.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
They've got the Packers. One thing you say about green
Bay there, you know, their offense has been kind of
wretched in the past couple of games. They're defensively they've
been great, like yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
But the Packers played down to their competition. They play
up to their competition. And when when you play like that, unfortunately,
it leads you to be a team that is going
to be in a tight game every game and you
really don't know what you're gonna get or it's a
bit confusing when you see their team get up for
some of the bigger games, but then also play down.
It's I mean, I'm not saying that Carolina is necessarily
(33:49):
a bad football team. You know, they're running in five hundred,
but you know, you look at some of the other
games they played this season, you're like, what the hell
was that?
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Yeah, it's not been great, and there there's been some
people thrown out the idea that, you know, is Matt
Lafleor's job in jeopardy. Can we just like, let's stop, like,
Matt Lafleor is not gonna get fired. Okay, they're they're in.
They've after the Pittsburgh game, they've not looked the same,
but they're a seven point favorite on the road at
(34:21):
the Giants. For a reason. There's still a good football team.
And you look at Green Bay and the idea that
Matt Laflor's job would be in jeopardy is kind of
kind of wild, kind of doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
He's made the playoffs whatevery year but one during his tenure.
Speaker 4 (34:36):
It's crazy, it does.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
I think his worst season, they were only like eighty
nine a few years back, Like, what are we talking
about here? He probably has one of the best win
percentages for a head coach in his first seven years.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Has that long he's been.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
Coaching now, Yeah, he probably has one of the better
win percentages, like in NFL history.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I mean he's got to be over six hundred.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
He's seventy two and thirty six.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, like one, I just he's gonna get fired.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Nice But that's but this is it was like the
Nick Sirianni stuff, Like when there were people throwing that
out there, it never made any sense. And the fact
that it was even a talking point or a discussion,
like you can say whatever you want about Siriani and
his demeanor and his personality. They win games. So does
he just not get any credit for that? I mean,
(35:23):
does Matt Lafleur not get any credit for the fact that,
you know, they're at where they're at, they've never had
you know, outside of twenty twenty two when they finished
eight to nine, they've never had a losing It just
none of it makes any sense. But you know it's
nowadays everybody wants they demand results. And plus if they
get to the postseason, like it would not surprise me
(35:44):
in the NFC if Green Bay went on a run,
it wouldn't surprise me at all. They've got the defense
to do it. If they could run the football and
get anything going offensively, like I picked Green Bay to
go to the super Bowl, that should be a good
news for Packers fans, right based on the pick of them.
If I've got your back in something, you want to
be on that side, I can tell you that for sure.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Why do you say this? You know that's a lie.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
You know that you were typically are the kiss of
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five hundred for the season. Now you're terrible.
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Okay.
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All right, brema, what do we got? What are we
looking at? Alrighty guys.
Speaker 8 (37:51):
Yesterday it was announced that the CFL is going to
allow its players to participate in the flag football and
the twenty twenty eight Summer Olympics out here.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Why would they have banned them from it? I don't
really understand that. It's like, you're a league that's struggling
a bit. You could use all the publicity you can get.
Speaker 8 (38:09):
There was like an overlap with a regular season. I
think that was like one of the issues. But they're
going to implement the rules and they're their players participate.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
I got there's more people to be watching the Olympics
in the CFL. No disrespect, but.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
That's just the truth.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
By the way, if I mean, look, let's be real.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
The players who'd be playing, I would assume are going
to be playing for Canada. They're not gonna be playing
for the US flag football team. But other leagues take
breaks in the middle of the season for international play
for the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
This isn't like that uncommon.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
I do believe the English Premier League is going through
a break right now for the next couple of weeks.
I think hockey's done it during various periods, so I'm
not really sure why that was an issue in the
first place.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Do you have a CFL team, like, uh, he had
to go with one? I think I know.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
If I had to, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
It's between the Hamilton tiger Cats or the Toronto Argonauts.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
I was going to say the Saskatchewan rough Riders.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, but that's well, that's a whole other story for you.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
So I'm a Calgary stam Peters guy, Like that's just me.
That's the way I operate, you know. Okay, yeah, I'm
more of a Calgary guy. But uh, you know, it's
just I mean, it used to be the Edmonton Eskimos,
but you can't say that.
Speaker 7 (39:27):
All right?
Speaker 4 (39:27):
What else we got he's just naming?
Speaker 3 (39:31):
No, no, just let me know.
Speaker 8 (39:32):
Yeah, some sad dudes. Jaguars rookie Travis Hunter. His season
is over. He just went underwent a season ending surgery
and his knee and he's going to miss the rest
of this season.
Speaker 7 (39:43):
All right.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
Does this have anything to do with the wear and
tear on him from coming from college, Because there are
some people out there who are speculating that it's not
so much what he's done so far in the NFL,
it's all the plays and snaps that he played in
college that have maybe subjected him to this sort of injury.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Are you on that buying that?
Speaker 7 (40:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (40:02):
Like what do we I mean, you played a lot
and the idea that people thought that that was just
going to translate over into the NFL, it never made
any sense to me. I didn't I didn't understand why
they gave up what they did to get him. I
really didn't like they gave up a lot. Their first
round pick is gone next year, and you know, good
for the Browns that they were to able to recoup
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that much in return for him, But it didn't It
didn't make sense to me why they would make that move.
But seems like a good dude. Hopefully he can bounce.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Back, you know. I hope that's a great player, tremendous talent, Elsie.
Hopefully love Arkin bounce back.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Yeah, maybe see you tomorrow,
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