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August 27, 2024 37 mins

The latest on the Trent Williams holdout. Mike McCarthy makes interesting comments about his future job security. CBS NFL Columnist, Pete Prisco joins the guys to talks all things NFL. Plus, “You In or Out?”

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Speaker 5 (00:59):
Hey, I mean, well, speaking of college Football Hall of Famer,
I've been meaning to say this on the air. Hell,
you do know that they had your school has to
nominate you, because I had the conversation I was with
my people when they did the unveiling of the Archie
Griffin statue at the Rose Bowl and I was like, well,
I'm gonna get my bro in, man, I need to
get my little bro in there, so we could, you know,

(01:20):
we can flex together on being college football Hall of Famers.

Speaker 6 (01:23):
And they're like, we love Brady. You know two things
about that.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
First is there is a long line of guys at
Notre Dame who should get in before me.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
Well that's to say that exists for me too, and
they're still not in. So it's just it's all about
who you know, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yeah, but I'm young enough.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
I'd rather wait for some of the older guys who
I've been waiting their time and should get in.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
Okay, I mean, well, I'm going to keep politicking for you.
But the only thing is is that I'm not the
one that handles things that at at Notre Dame.

Speaker 6 (01:55):
They got it. They got to put put you in.
We could, we could get it done from Maybe we
need to just.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Hire you over Notre Dame. That's the whole thing. We
just need to hire you on there.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
Well I don't know, man, but I'm just saying, you know,
I just I meant to tell I meant to say it.

Speaker 6 (02:09):
On air too. You know, it's like, you should be
in that Hall of Fame.

Speaker 7 (02:12):
Man.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
So I've been politicking for you every time I get
the opportunity. They listen to the show too, by the way,
so shouts out to the National Football Foundation.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
I'd be sweet, you guys are yeah right. So the
problem is, I don't think Jonas would come out for it,
you know, Oh, no chance. Oh, in fact, I would
no chance. Oh I would say it. I would vote
against it, Like, well, you don't have a vote. Well,
I mean if I did, I would take the social
media and be fake outrage that Brady got in. That's

(02:42):
the path I would take him. I would just I
hate him.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
I hate him.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
That would be the fake take I would go with.
But yeah, I agree. I think he should be in
the Hall of Fame, and you guys could be in
together and just kind of celebrate flex on everybody because
like what others shows have two college football Hall of Famers.
I mean, that's like the elite.

Speaker 6 (03:05):
You're being sarcastic.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
I'm not being sarcast I was in a studio I
dropped kick and you're esophacust.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
First of all, I'm not being sarcastic. I'm not being
sarcastic at all. I think it's an awesome honor. And
I know how much witness by the way, I know
how much you meant to meant to LeVar. I think
would be sweet, be pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
It meant you know, I wear that every day. I'm
probably get that thing in throwing me at some point.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
When you got the news, did you cry?

Speaker 6 (03:36):
Might have.

Speaker 5 (03:38):
I'm okay with crying. I'm that's not you know, I
allowed my emotions to flow.

Speaker 6 (03:45):
I think I did. I was shocked, you remember, I
shared it with you guys.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
I was like, I was like, are there more than
one college Hall of Fame?

Speaker 6 (03:52):
Like, because I was confused when I got the ball.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
I was like kind of confused, like it kind of
like hit like a reset on me, and I was
like I didn't know what was going on kind of
sort of it's like what hall of fame is this?

Speaker 7 (04:04):
You know?

Speaker 5 (04:04):
I didn't think I got into the Hall of Fame.
And I thought somebody like sent the ball might have
like you know kind of you know, decorated it a
certain type of way, wanted me to sign it or
something like that, like I should be in I don't
know it came unexpectedly.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
I look at it from this angle as somebody who
played high school football but was horrific at it. The
fact that you guys not only excelled at that level
and then got to the next level and excelled at
a rate to which you're worthy of being the best
to ever do it is wild to think about it.

(04:43):
I don't know how many times you guys just stop
and think about that accomplishment. But it's it's not normal
at all.

Speaker 6 (04:51):
And I can tell you about it.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Majority of us who played, like Lee played high school football,
Eddie played high school football. There's a lot of people
listening right now that played high school football, and it
just it wasn't even a thought in their mind. Like
you know what, I want to go to the next
level and I want to be like the best to
ever do it, And you guys did it, But I.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
Wanted to be the best at high school.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
Like I think about it when I'm at Man's games,
like dang, like like you get that national like think
about how hard it is. I think it's the hardest
level to get national exposure and actually be looked at
as a like a dope player. I think it's high
school because it's more players. I think high school is

(05:29):
the hardest level to make it out of.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, but isn't it easier to stand out? Though? And
especially nowadays with the.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
I think there's so many moving parts to that question,
because you could be in a league where everybody is
literally looking like pee wee league football players and you
stand out and it's like how do you?

Speaker 6 (05:52):
How do you?

Speaker 7 (05:53):
Like?

Speaker 5 (05:53):
I always made the argument when people start having the
discussion points of who's like the most dominant in this
that the other. And I always said, you got to
look at how big the school is. You got to
look at how big you know, the ranking, like the
rating of what they are like for Western PA when
I was coming out, which is there's I guess it's larger,

(06:14):
not larger schools now, but Quahda was it. It didn't
go any higher than Quahda. If you played Quahda football,
like and you were good at Kwaida, that means you
were good.

Speaker 6 (06:26):
If you were in.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
Single A or city league, they didn't wait it as
the same. Like you could be a dope football player
like Rod Rutherford was in college when you were in college,
right Q.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
Yeah, he was there I think one year, like my
freshman year. I think he was a senior.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
Okay, so Rod played at Perry and he's one of
the greatest football players to ever come through our area.
And he never really got the type of notoriety that
he was probably deserving of because he played at PTA,
which is Perry traditional academy shouts out to the North Side.

Speaker 6 (07:00):
But it's like my.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
Argument was, like, Okay, people will say this, that and
the other, but it's just hard to stand out in
high school balls. So it's like if you could stand
out and dominate at at the highest levels, like if
you go to Modern Day and you can dominate at
Modern Day, like you're going to get pub if you
could do it at Bosco, if you could do it

(07:24):
at like, uh, what what was the school in Ohio
that everybody was it Masalon or Washington Then it was
sayt Ignacious and stuff like that. Like if you could
dominate in those schools, it was a given. But outside
of like the ones that they look at, like how
do you get how do you get the exposure? You

(07:46):
know what I mean? So it's like to be able
to be someone special in high school. Man, that that's
saying a lot. And if you could take it to
the next level and always say to me the difference
and you tell me C. But I always felt like
the differences I saw in college from high school was
the ability to be on time, the ability to be

(08:07):
you know, at meetings and be present in meetings, to
be present at practice every day, and really be able
to balance out being a college student and a college athlete.
I felt like a lot of times that was the
biggest if people are being honest, that was what weeded
out the players. It wasn't like cause there were guys

(08:30):
that were probably better players than what I was. I
think it's like two or three off the top of
my head that I would have thought would have been
just as good, if not better than me, you know
when we got to school, and it didn't end up
working out that way. But it was because their focus
was on other things, you know, they were focused in
on you know more so. I'd say the one dude,

(08:52):
he really was about the girls, and it had him
being late for workouts, late for practices.

Speaker 6 (08:58):
He got in a dog house and never got out
of it, you know.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
But it's it's quite a it's quite a challenge Jonas
to be special at any of the levels that you
go to. I mean, obviously the numbers get lower as
you go higher, but it's definitely I think it's tremendously
difficult to be considered to be like a really really
good ball player and to be a special ballplayer, uh

(09:23):
an All American ballplayer at at any level.

Speaker 6 (09:26):
Man. That's that's my take on it.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Even if you suck like I did, it's still fun
because all those guys that I played football.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
You get to get dominated by guys like Brady. That's true,
That's that's what made it. And then there's football.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Okay, but all those all those guys that take that damn.

Speaker 6 (09:50):
Part of this.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
That what.

Speaker 6 (09:53):
You know? He was a two way player.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
I mean, yeah, I don't know how I got thrown
in the middle of all this.

Speaker 6 (10:02):
You want two white players?

Speaker 4 (10:05):
No platooned it? Man, don't you on the side of
the ball.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Don't you disrespect just on a Dublin coffin high school
like that.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Just an offense I was giving it.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
But the.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
The one thing I would say is that all the
guys that I played with are still my best friends.
So twenty something years later, we're all still and that's
just from playing football and all the sucked.

Speaker 6 (10:27):
I was the word lay with you.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
No, he did not he uh he was soccer player.

Speaker 6 (10:34):
Yeah, okay, but you know.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
He's you know, and that's what By the way, that's
one of the things I love about Lee though. Lee,
did you play the linebacker and O?

Speaker 7 (10:41):
Line?

Speaker 4 (10:41):
Is what it was?

Speaker 8 (10:42):
That is correct? Middle linebacker and center?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
How many times did you knock yourself out?

Speaker 8 (10:47):
Too many times?

Speaker 5 (10:48):
But that you locate a picture of you when you
play is possible?

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (10:53):
Somebody was asking me for that the other day. Uh, yeah,
somebody has some pictures of you. I don't have them.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
I would have loved to play with Lee.

Speaker 6 (11:00):
I bet.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I bet Lee was the ultimate team guy, like do
whatever you can to get the job done.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
You know, that's true.

Speaker 9 (11:08):
Absolutely funny enough, though, I was not friends with many
of the guys off the field.

Speaker 6 (11:11):
But well, yeah, because they weren't into drinking.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
As much as Yeah, they didn't work at the liquor store.

Speaker 6 (11:18):
They want to drink either.

Speaker 9 (11:20):
They all did want to go drinking after But yeah, wait,
so why wasn't I friends with them?

Speaker 6 (11:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (11:26):
I had friends who didn't really play football.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
More like the movies and the screen actors.

Speaker 8 (11:32):
Build Yeah, yeah, a bunch of theater nerds and.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
You were like, you have a photography on this, and
the lady it just really gets.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
It's going absolutely looking at Lee like, wow, man, the
hell is going on with this?

Speaker 7 (11:48):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Can I can I read a quote to you guys
and you tell me what you think of it?

Speaker 6 (11:52):
Sure? All right?

Speaker 3 (11:53):
So Jerry Jones was talking about, you know, just how
he believes that, you know, the pressure that Mike McCarthy feels,
you know, like going into your final year of your contract,
the anks all that stuff, like says it's a good thing,
it could be a positive. Now, this is not the
first time Dallas has had a coach going to the
final year of his contract without a deal. I believe
they did it twice with Jason Garrett. So it's not,

(12:16):
you know, unfamiliar for Jerry Jones and company. But Mike
McCarthy was talking about, you know, just the bringing back
CD lamb, what this does for them, you know, getting
into December and January and all that, and said the
following quote. We keep talking about playoffs and things like that,
but I don't know when the hell it became easy
to win twelve games in a season. So we've got

(12:38):
to really get back to winning week in a week out.
That feels like a guy who's just about at the
end of his rope. With the whole discussion, because if
there's any other organization in the NFL, if you put
together on paper what Mike McCarthy had done, I think
you'd have a contract extension already. And yet he's a
lame duck going into the final year of his deal

(13:01):
with three straight twelve win seasons in Dallas? Am I
crazy to think that Mike McCarthy would have a long
term deal already if he was with anybody else in
the NFL?

Speaker 4 (13:12):
You, I don't think you're crazy to say that. I
do think.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
I mean, look, clearly, Jerry Jones is trying this method
with Mike McCarthy and his quarterback Dak Prescott, because that's
also in the final the year of his deal. So
I just I look at it and I say, we
do apply that concept. I mean, LaVar, how many times
you see you hear a lot of all the guys
balling out this year's in a contract yere.

Speaker 6 (13:36):
You hear that all the time the time, and it.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Does, for whatever reason, get a lot of guys to
go ball out play well and they end up making
that next big contract. I mean, Pete will come on
and talk about that. We've talked about that at length.
So maybe there is something to the madness. I don't
know if it's warranted in this case, given what Mike
McCarthy's done during his time there in Dallas.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
But I also think his expect the expectation.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Of of when Mike McCarthy got there wasn't to be
a playoff team.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
It was to win a super Bowl like that.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
That was ultimately what this was about in hiring him,
because he had won one before and they thought that
had a playoff team that was underachieving and they wanted
to bring in a guy who could get them to
a super Bowl. And so unfortunately it still doesn't happen yet,
even though Mike McCarthy is a good coach and you know,
winning twelve games in the regular season is not easy, especially

(14:31):
playing the NFC East.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
Yeah, I mean I tended to sat with that. You
know that they could have stayed with Jason Garrett if
they were going to just keep making it to the playoffs.
I mean, he you know, he really didn't want to
get rid of Jason Garrett. Jerry Jones has really been
a coach friendly owner, you know, to to the coaches
that are hired there. But I think where we're at

(15:00):
now is Mike McCarthy was supposed to deliver more than
what he has, and I believe that delivery was supposed
to come with Dak Prescott before we got to the
end of this contract. I wonder, I actually wonder is
Mike McCarthy more on the hook because Jerry Jones and

(15:22):
Dallas has to think about if they're going to pay
Dak Prescott again void of a Super Bowl appearance, a
Super Bowl victory, multiple appearances, maybe at least one victory.
Is this more so a symptom of I can justify

(15:47):
the amount of money that I paid Dak Prescott the
first time and feel good about putting that money out
there the second time because I brought in a coach
that was going to utilize him the way that he
utilized Aaron Roddy had the success with Aaron Rodgers, you know,
having the opportunity to possibly win a Super Bowl. I mean,

(16:08):
if you think about it, Aaron Rodgers had some loaded teams.
But those teams that Mike McCarthy had when he first got.

Speaker 6 (16:15):
To to Dallas. They were pretty loaded. They were they
were they were.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
Certainly certainly personnel wise good enough to go win a
Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
I mean, the first year went sideways because of the
Dak injury, and that's you know, that's kind of the one.

Speaker 6 (16:32):
Those things happen.

Speaker 5 (16:33):
But nonetheless, I just wonder, is the fact that both
of these guys their contracts are up pretty much at
the same time, and they still have yet to.

Speaker 6 (16:45):
Have performed more, performed.

Speaker 5 (16:48):
Better than the coach they had before they brought in
Mike McCarthy just just curious to me, is is that
a measurement? Is that a measure stick for Jerry Jones
right now? And why there could be some you better
do it this year? You better, you better do it
now because if I got to pay Dak Prescott.

Speaker 6 (17:10):
I'm not paying you.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
If we ain't won no championship, I'll pay Dak, but
I ain't paying you.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Is there an element too of Bill Belichick being out
there and feeling like I need to get the results
otherwise I'll bring a guy who's done this, you know.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
I just wonder, does there is there any trepidation by
Jerry Jones because he hired the higher up to Bill Belichick,
and I don't feel like that went well. I don't
know that that. I don't know that the Bill Parcells
era in Dallas went too well. I thought I felt

(17:47):
as though it just seemed like Bill Parcells was such
a strong personality that it might.

Speaker 6 (17:55):
Have not have ended well in Dallas with Parceales.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
And I just wonder, being from that coaching tree, you'd
have to assume Belichick he's probably thinking, well, he's from
the Belichick or he's from the Parcels coaching tree. Do
I want to deal with that type of strong will
personality coming from from a coach. That would be my
only question as it applies to Belichick.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
You know, maybe Pete Prisco's got the answers. Maybe they'll
be joining us here next on Fox Sports Radio. It
is two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on FSR.
We so we've got that, and usually Brady knows how
to stir it up with Pete. We've gotta maybe turn
him into a little bit of a red ass here
on a Tuesday morning. So that'll be yours here on FSR.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
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Speaker 3 (18:49):
Right now, Pete prisc goes in CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ.
Pete Senior NFL columnist, Pete, what's happening in good morning?
How are you?

Speaker 10 (19:01):
What's up?

Speaker 7 (19:02):
Guys? How are you?

Speaker 3 (19:03):
We're fired up to have you on. We were talking
believe it or not, we were talking about the Cowboys
a few moments ago. Just curious, is this is the
strategy for Jerry Jones when he says he likes the
fact that, you know, you go into your final year,
there's a little bit of angst. It creates a better performance.
Is that just what he's planning with Dak and Mike McCarthy, Like,

(19:24):
let them play this year out and then we'll just
see where we're at. And is there the chance that
we are looking at the final year for both of
them if this doesn't.

Speaker 10 (19:31):
Go well well for Mike McCarthy. I think that's definitely
the case. If they don't win, he's gone. So from
a coaching standpoint, it probably makes sense to do it
that way.

Speaker 7 (19:41):
But the other way. I mean, if Dak Prescott.

Speaker 10 (19:44):
Led the league in touchdown passes last year and you
can't get that deal done and he goes out and
has a great season, then all of a sudden, your
quarterback walks out the door. So I think they're really
taking a chance there. I wouldn't do it because you're
damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't.
If you don't find him to the long term extension,
what are your what are you gonna do next year?
It's not a great draft for quarterbacks and so all

(20:04):
of a sudden you look around you go, we don't
have one.

Speaker 7 (20:06):
So I would.

Speaker 10 (20:07):
Find a way to get that done. But you're probably
right in terms of the head coach, that's for sure.
He's got one year and if he doesn't prove it,
he's gone.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
I mean, he's been forty two and twenty five during
the course of the regular season.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
He's got three straight what twelve win seasons? Yeah, and
they're gonna move on. It seems a bit bizarre.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
And I made the case earlier Pete that you know,
Jerry Jones brought him into a Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
He didn't bring him in to get to the playoffs.
He felt like he had a playoff.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Team that was underachieving, and that was the whole point
of bringing in Mike McCarthy. But do you think this
has anything to do with the fact that a guy
like Bill Belichick is out there just taking a year
off and that he feels like maybe he's got him
in his back pocket and could hire him next year
if things don't work out this year.

Speaker 10 (20:49):
Yeah, but here's the thing, Brady, But Bill Belichick's not
a young man anymore.

Speaker 7 (20:53):
I mean, and again, yeah.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
You would know.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Oh but yeah, saying well, no.

Speaker 10 (20:59):
It takes one to know one believe it. But I know, Brady,
and LeVar knows this too. I might be older in years,
but you guys get ten for every football year you're playing,
you play, so now you're ten much older, though.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
Not so much QB this morning.

Speaker 10 (21:17):
So that makes like one hundred. Levar's like one hundred.

Speaker 8 (21:20):
And twenty and I move like it too.

Speaker 10 (21:25):
Yeah, but no, I mean, look, Bill Beltier doesn't even
want to coach again, Brady. I mean, is he going
to get comfortable doing the stuff he's doing now and
not want to get back in. I mean, it's it's again.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
It might impact his dating life Fete, right, I mean, you.

Speaker 10 (21:40):
Can't go out and find those twenty three year old
He's been days. You know, it's going to be hard
on this dating flyfe.

Speaker 7 (21:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (21:46):
I just don't know if you want after a year away,
if I want to get back in. But knowing Gerry,
I mean in the back of his mind, of course
that's something he's thinking about it. If this doesn't work
out with Mike McCarthy, then I can go out and get,
you know, a Bill Belchier.

Speaker 7 (21:58):
But here's the other thing. The coaching staff. You know,
I got Mike Zimmer.

Speaker 10 (22:01):
I think Mike Zimmer has a one year deal too.
I mean, these guys come back to try and win now,
and so the pressure is clearly on that coaching staff.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
Let's go over to because I heard Q bring up
the fact that you might have a differing opinion on
the discussion we were having about the Jets and the
Dolphins and New England and the Bills and the Bills, right,
And that's there where I was going to fit finish
off with.

Speaker 6 (22:28):
I think the Bills are the Bills.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
I think they will still win the division and they'll
show that they're the Bills when they get to the playoffs,
but not before then. Uh, the guys seem to be
really really bullish on the Jets.

Speaker 6 (22:41):
What what's your take on this.

Speaker 7 (22:43):
I'm with you, LeVar. I can't believe I'm saying that,
but I am.

Speaker 6 (22:46):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 7 (22:47):
I think people are discounting the Bills. I mean they
really are.

Speaker 10 (22:51):
And I was there for a couple of days two
weeks ago and just watching that team and where they're at.

Speaker 7 (22:57):
You know, everybody says, well, Niggs is gone.

Speaker 10 (23:00):
That's auditioned by subtraction. The guy didn't do anything in
the last ten weeks of the season. He was a
pain to deal with. He kind of dragged some other
guys down. He's gone. They feel, you know, rejuvenated because
he's not there, and you know they liked him as
a player, but they're not unhappy he's gone. Then you
go last year on that defense day, Kwon Jones went
down about four games in best run stuffer, Milano went down,

(23:22):
now he's hurt again, best linebacker, and then the corner
Tredavius White went down. Didn't have a cornerback, and then
the safeties were banged up the whole year. And yet
there they were at the end of the year, throw
rifle shot into the end zone with a chance to
beat the Chiefs, and then should have made the field
goal with another chance to beat the Chiefs. So I
think when you look at it from that standpoint, I
think they're a better team. I think they're better understanding
of the offense.

Speaker 7 (23:42):
When I was there, they were getting the ball out quick.

Speaker 10 (23:46):
Allen looks much more comfortable now at Joe brady offense,
and he's not going to be asked to do as much.
He's going to have a really good, fundamentally sound season.

Speaker 7 (23:53):
He won't turn it over as much.

Speaker 10 (23:54):
And I'm with you. I think they're the team to beat.
I think the Jets are right there behind them in
the division.

Speaker 7 (23:59):
I think Miami me third.

Speaker 10 (24:00):
And you know, Miami has to overcome, you know, this
whole reputation of being soft until they prove it then,
and you're only going to have that feel about them
that they're soft. They went one to six against teams
with winning records. They had the fun to watch the
bells and whistles. Oh they moved the ball, and we'll
preach that most everybody's great. In September and October but
when it comes time to win games, they have to

(24:22):
prove the people they're on to soft football.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Pete Prisco, senior NFL columnists for CBS Sports also CBS
Sports HQ, joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. You
can get them on AX at Prisco, CBS. I want
to ask you about the team in your neck of
the woods, the Jaguars, because it sure feels like shod
Con took a different approach this offseason where he really
tightened the screws and kind of put all the pressure,

(24:46):
speaking of coaches on the hot seat, potentially on Doug
Peterson and company to coach up those guys better. So
what would be what is a realistic expectation for the
Jaguars this season that would mean Doug Peterson as the
head coach for longer than just this year.

Speaker 7 (25:03):
Playoffs.

Speaker 10 (25:04):
I think they have to get into the playoffs. And
by the way, we look back at last season and
they want nine games. It's not like it was a disaster,
but what happened was they went into that Sunday night
game with the Ravens as the number one seed in
the AFC and then just collapse down the stretch, in
large part because you know Trevor Lawrence was hurt but
didn't practice much the entire second half of the season.

(25:26):
But look, they have to get in the postseason.

Speaker 7 (25:29):
I think I think.

Speaker 10 (25:30):
This is a real, you know, one of those years
for Doug Peterson wires to prove the people that the
offense can do what it needs to do. And you know,
he's got a reputation for being this great offensive play
caller and last year they weren't very good calling plays.

Speaker 7 (25:43):
Now there were reasons the center wasn't very good.

Speaker 10 (25:45):
He got, you know, pushed back into their lap every
time they snapped the ball.

Speaker 7 (25:49):
He's no longer the center. They went out andsign Mitch Morrise.
That's an improvement.

Speaker 10 (25:52):
When Kirk got hurt late in the season, it took
away a big weapon. I think the receiving group is
going to be special because I think Brian Thomas has
a chance to be one of the elite, elite guys,
and so they're gonna score points. It's just a matter
of what do they do on defense and can they
hold up in the secondary.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Pete, I got to ask you because typically before the
season starts, you've got a few hot takes. Someone called
him sizzling hot, takes. What do we got going into
week one of.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
The NFL seasons as far as your hot takes for
this year.

Speaker 7 (26:20):
Will Levis is going to be a star.

Speaker 10 (26:23):
Nice you know, you know I'm on that one for
a while.

Speaker 7 (26:27):
That's right, yes, right, And I'll tell you what. Yeah,
but you know what, he's making some money off of
that mallyonnaise, isn't he You know what?

Speaker 10 (26:34):
I asked him about that? He said, I may I
get that to try and make the money. He wouldn't
be you know, he's funny about it.

Speaker 6 (26:40):
Yeah, why not?

Speaker 7 (26:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (26:41):
I think he's gonna be a big time player. I
think the criticism is him coming out of school was unwarranted.
I mean there were reasons and bringing you know that,
you know, Liam Cohne and all that going away, and
and now he's got a good offensive monket coach.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
And cow and jacked up hete Apparently, you can't be
muscular as a as a quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 6 (26:59):
You can't be two jacks.

Speaker 10 (27:00):
They didn't they see your your photo shoot when you
came out.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Someone had me a picture of me and my skivviies.
I don't know what's going on there.

Speaker 10 (27:08):
Yeah, I mean look he's but again, Brady, I wanted
my quarterback working, you know, everybody always like and I
and I talked to him.

Speaker 7 (27:16):
He told me a story.

Speaker 10 (27:17):
Was in Italy for vacation three weeks before camp, and
he scouted out these fields to go throw and he
hopped over the fence of one of these soccer fields
and next thing he go, he surrounded. The police are there,
and Brady tried to tell him in Italy that he
was an NFL quarterback and they could.

Speaker 6 (27:34):
Have less bike care. He's not.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
He's he's not playing soccer or football over there, doesn't matter.

Speaker 10 (27:40):
But he's going to be a star, and he's the
other one.

Speaker 6 (27:44):
No hold on, you go any further.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Before you go any further, were you sold on the
fact because he took a vacation in Italy given that
your a pies on, so you think he's.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
Got the.

Speaker 7 (27:54):
You know, it's funny.

Speaker 10 (27:55):
I'm a pison and I've never been to Italy, So
he's got one ball got to get I gotta get
my booty over there, you know. I got to go
see the Chiefs. You know.

Speaker 7 (28:04):
But here's the other hot take.

Speaker 10 (28:06):
Let's slow down on the Houston Texans coronation.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Okay, I like it.

Speaker 6 (28:13):
I don't agree with that.

Speaker 7 (28:15):
You know how I love c this strout.

Speaker 10 (28:17):
I've mentioned Marino and you know what that means to
me when I mentioned Marino. Yeah, well, here's the thing.
Do they know how to play being the hunted? You know,
when you sneak up on people, it's a whole different story.
It's a whole different situation. Now a you got the
first place schedule. Their schedule is brutal. But not only that,

(28:37):
the division's much better.

Speaker 7 (28:39):
Everybody's division is going to be better.

Speaker 10 (28:41):
And now you have to handle being the hunted.

Speaker 7 (28:44):
And I wonder.

Speaker 10 (28:45):
Look, I'm a big Demico Ryan's guy. I think he's
a great coach, but this is that first year where
you have to handle that. Sometimes teams struggle with it
and then the next year they.

Speaker 7 (28:53):
Go surging forward.

Speaker 10 (28:54):
So I worry a little bit about the Texans, don't.

Speaker 7 (28:57):
I don't think they're the chiefs.

Speaker 10 (28:58):
You know, people put them.

Speaker 7 (28:59):
Up there with the chief I don't see that.

Speaker 10 (29:01):
Well, they pushed for the division title, absolutely, but I
think we need to slow the role and then being
the super Bowl team right now?

Speaker 5 (29:07):
Can I ask you about Phil Yates real quick? Would
you ever do a tackling. Uh, you know, demonstration on
the beach. And if so, would it end in your
shoulder being dislocated from your body?

Speaker 6 (29:20):
Pete?

Speaker 10 (29:22):
Yes, I would and know it wouldn't because I supposedly
played football somewhere.

Speaker 7 (29:29):
But man, man, I don't know.

Speaker 10 (29:31):
I was looking, I mean, seriously, what was he doing?
It looked like he didn't want to hit the damn thing,
you know, I got. I shuddered to think if there
was a human on the other side, what would have
Brady knows. Brady knows some of my old football, dirty
football stories.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Yeah, he's never been afraid to hold a couple of
nuts in his hands.

Speaker 10 (29:53):
Oh story, Pete, that is the true story.

Speaker 7 (30:00):
That is a cheap story.

Speaker 10 (30:02):
Hey, hey, the guy cleaned my hands. I mean, move,
would you do? My hand was on the ground and
he's the old days when they had those metal clean
He stopped on my hand.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
What would you I wouldn't gone looking for walnuts, I'll
tell you that much.

Speaker 6 (30:15):
I'm with you there, Pete, I'm with you there.

Speaker 10 (30:18):
He had a high pitched voice after.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
That, Right, what'd you do that?

Speaker 7 (30:25):
Bet?

Speaker 3 (30:25):
He's a Pete Prisco senior NFL columnist for CBS Sports.
Also CBS Sports HQ analyst. You can get him on
x at. Prisco CBS is going to be joining us
throughout the football season as well too. We're looking forward
to it. Thanks Pete, We appreciate it. We'll do it
again next week.

Speaker 6 (30:39):
Thanks Pete.

Speaker 7 (30:40):
All right, take care a.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Right good stuff with Pete Prisco.

Speaker 8 (30:43):
There.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe on
Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next here, we are going
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Speaker 2 (30:52):
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Speaker 6 (30:59):
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Speaker 2 (31:00):
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Speaker 3 (31:04):
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Speaker 2 (31:47):
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Speaker 7 (31:50):
What you to know?

Speaker 2 (31:52):
If they're in at least four If they're.

Speaker 9 (31:55):
Out, all right, lead to laugh. What do we got guys?
We have the US Open underway first round. You guys
in or out on the US Open of course talking
about tennis here out out in Queens.

Speaker 6 (32:07):
Oh, I'm in on it.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
I'll watch it.

Speaker 8 (32:09):
Yeah, yeah, I'm in on this.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
I am No, you're not lead. Why would Lee not
be in on this?

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, he thinks that he's in on it. If it's
on the TV at the bar that he goes to,
it will be okay. But you're not actively pursuing that.
You would have gone to that bar if they had
Parcheesi re runs on the TV. So like it just
happens to be on the TV. It does happen to

(32:38):
be on the TV. I will watch. I want to
see Cocoa goffa repeat defender title.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
Yeah, speaking of where the shock.

Speaker 9 (32:49):
Speaking of that bar, they it's one of those bars
that has the what do you call it, the hot spot,
uh lottery thing going on. You can get a ticket
and watch the ball that way. What It's one of
those bars where it's like you can get a lot
of ticket right there. They also have like the Hotspot
TV where it's like it's just a red.

Speaker 6 (33:10):
Ball just dropping.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
I love doing during the day. I love playing baseball.
My son Lee's watching the lottery ball drop it at
a bar.

Speaker 8 (33:19):
And I bring that up because it is International Lottery Day.
Mega Millions is up to five hundred and seventy five million.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
I bought it out on that everyone's in.

Speaker 8 (33:28):
Yeah, I bought a ticket and I don't know where
it is and I have like anxiety over it.

Speaker 9 (33:33):
I hope you win in camp I imagine.

Speaker 5 (33:37):
I hope you win it, and I hope they say
that their numbers hit and you don't even know that
it was your number that hit.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (33:46):
I would, But if like my pake my liquor sore,
Prestige like said, oh, we sold the loot winning ticket,
I would be freaking out.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
By the way, does Prestige Liquor know that you give
them shout outs on the show, probably often like they
can't like, you.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
Know, lead, you've been nil deal in the works here.

Speaker 8 (34:09):
I know, I gotta get a hold.

Speaker 9 (34:10):
I gotta get a whole jersey with all the sponsors
on my shoulders and everything.

Speaker 8 (34:13):
Let's get buzzball.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
You can get.

Speaker 8 (34:17):
Backwoods Backwards is heavy in that game? Aren't they in
like cornhole.

Speaker 6 (34:23):
Something like that?

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Oh man, Okay, what else?

Speaker 8 (34:28):
If you're looking for something to watch tonight?

Speaker 9 (34:30):
Untold Sign Steeler offers a fascinating side of the story.
Connor Stallions gives his side of the of the sign stealing.

Speaker 8 (34:37):
Story on a Netflix documentary.

Speaker 6 (34:38):
Out Why you be out on that? I don't I'm
not interested.

Speaker 5 (34:42):
I mean, I watch it if y'all want to talk
about it, but I always I'm interested.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Is because there's a lot of Ohio State fans who
feel like this is vindication, which I've seen a lot
of posts out there. A lot of Michigan fans are like, oh,
there's nothing there. I'm kind of more curious for like
the back and forth. One of the things I still
don't get because everyone's like, I'll look at their win percentage,
you know, with Connor stallions there. It's like, well, guys,
he wasn't there for a strong portion of last season

(35:07):
and their most important.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Games they still won those. So how are we viewing that?

Speaker 3 (35:13):
You know, if there was a significant drop off like
when they went to Penn State or they you know,
Indiana or I don't know, the college, the semi final,
the national chance, like I can understand the discussion, but
they won it all. Like, after all this stuff came out,
I just think at that point, I'm like, all right,
that's it. I got my answer.

Speaker 6 (35:35):
Whatever out damn fellas.

Speaker 9 (35:41):
TMC has confirmed that OJ Simpson's remains have been cremated
and turned into jewelry I'll split up amongst his four
adult children. They haven't specified what kind of jewelry, whether
it's a necklace or ringing or whatever.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Wait, you got the trachea?

Speaker 6 (35:54):
I wanted it? What a wait? Doing here?

Speaker 9 (35:59):
Would you guys be it or out on wearing a
trinket or a piece of jewelry with loved ones remains.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Out, I'd be worried. I'd like lose it it and break.

Speaker 6 (36:10):
I don't know, I'm out on that. I think I'm out.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
I'd rather have like a something else.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
For them to like pay homage to him, you know,
like I want like a wristwatch of my my dad's esophagus, Like,
what are we doing here?

Speaker 5 (36:22):
Hey, you got a tattoo of boss Hog?

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Damn, I got them. I got that before he died.

Speaker 6 (36:30):
Way do you?

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (36:33):
Yeah, I didn't know that.

Speaker 6 (36:38):
I like, how do you know that, LaVar? Have you
seen it? I've seen it?

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Yeah, LaVar, how do you know that?

Speaker 6 (36:43):
I've seen all of Jonas Brady? What are you getting
that there?

Speaker 4 (36:47):
I never worked them for a while. I didn't know that.

Speaker 6 (36:50):
Maybe you guys are.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
Doing something I don't know, you know, the kind of
we gotta work. I do not know we gotta work.

Speaker 7 (36:59):
You know.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
I hate her?

Speaker 4 (37:07):
So you what else we got?

Speaker 8 (37:08):
College volleyball starts today?

Speaker 9 (37:10):
Got dump Kentucky versus Nebraska, Wisconsin versus Louisville out in.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
Telebar in especially women's volleyball.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Why is that?

Speaker 6 (37:23):
Go l m U Lions and all the way
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