August 28, 2024 • 39 mins
The Old P, Petros Papadakis talks about the transition from Week 0 to Week 1. The NFL approves the sale of 10% of teams to Private Equity Firms. Shohei Ohatani is the Express Pros Pro of the Week. Plus, a debate over cranberry juice and the end of an era on the show.
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And it is a Wednesday, which means it's time for
one of the favorite traditions on this show. For many
people out there, as we get a visit from our guy,
the old p Petro's Papadakis, the co host of the
Petros and Money Show, which you can hear on the
(01:19):
Blowtorch AM five to seven, E LA Sports Fox college
football analyst and our good friend Pete.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
What's happening that.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Good cigal early in the morning.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
That's great.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
And Lady Saw, Yes, Lady Saw sound like Petra.
Speaker 7 (01:37):
Lady Patra, although famous in our day, LeVar, nowhere near
as impactful dancehall world as a Lady Saw. The Lady
Saw is no longer Lady Saw. She had no she's
born again, yeah, mother, mother, No, she doesn't use Saw
(01:58):
at all anymore. She just goes by her name Marion.
I forget her last name. But anyway, she's become Yeah,
she's become born again and she still performs, but mostly gospel.
And she's had now that she got rid of the
slackness lyrics which are you know, sexual lyrics and stuff
(02:19):
like that. She does not Marion Hall, that's her name.
She can't get a visa anymore. Oh wait, because Marian Hall,
who does like that? Uh, I don't know what kind
of music that is? What Marion Hall. Yeah, well there
could be two. You know, it's a big world. But
Marion Hall, lady saw it really is probably the most
(02:42):
famous female dance hall performer of all time. No Doubt
used her on a song. Steven Sagall used her on
a song. A lot of rappers have used her and
stuff like Marion Hills.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Who I was thinking of.
Speaker 7 (02:56):
That is that is like a seven or eight yard out,
like over the head of the receiver overthrow.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
That's the you know, hey, first series first gave it
little get up there. That's the thing you say as
a quarterback pat shows. Do you ever hear the quarterback
they used to go get up? It's like hope you
can pray, think at last moment and I'm very tired
yours pick up?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
He's get up.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
You guys know what Patton goes, well, you guys do,
but that the listeners, Patten go is like a way
to you know, warm up in football.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
The only way I got on the field after the
walk through.
Speaker 7 (03:32):
Uh you do the thing where the quarterback pats the
ball and everybody just kind of runs, you know, a
little route quarterbacks arm warm up. If the dude threw
it too far, I just stop and turn around.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I wouldn't even go get it.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Oh you were one of those guys.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
Oh if the dude was all juiced up and like
four string quarterback like pat and go like it's like
all right.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
At Laser Show, I remember remember when that soldier boy
tell him or whatever wherever that however that song went
y yeah, that song. We were there like the Superman
all yeah, that song. It's single handedly ruined the patten
(04:10):
Go line in Cleveland. I'll never forget that song coming
on and not one skill player, not one paid attention
to anything that was happening in patten Go and it
just started dancing and doing the Superman or whatever that was.
And I was like, what is happening? Is this is
this normal in the NFL? Is how this goes?
Speaker 7 (04:30):
I had an epiphany like that at USC where there
was the John Robinson had there was this chick named
Jamie and she wore like a holster like for guns,
but instead of the of a gun, instead of a
gun and the holster, it was the air horn.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You know, to blow the horn, and the horn you know.
Speaker 7 (04:49):
In practice it indicates that you know you're changing periods
or if you get the three toots practice is over
and everybody wants practic this to be over. And there's
nothing football players hate more than football practice. And I
remember John Robinson would go and then the guys started
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doing like they had like a song, which.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Was Jake me blowing a horn and Jamie blow and
it was very distracting.
Speaker 7 (05:27):
He couldn't get any work here at the end of
practice with the blow the horn.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Chaps, wait, hold lot of that fi way that John
Robinson might be up there with one of your best ever.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
Oh yeah, my Jay Robb is probably my best, but
you know, not as significant as a coach anymore as
he used to be. But yeah, John Robinson and he
really used to like point at her like almost like
very cinematically. And I might have seen Jamie doing more
than blowing a horn once in the dab.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
And I was I was shocked, good Grace.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
I was absolutely young, a young, impressional white tailback, and
I was.
Speaker 8 (06:06):
Sure we got some sound for you. I know, I'm
sure Jonas was going to do it.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
No, I was going.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
I didn't want to piss you off, p I just
want to for the record, I have part.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
This is my idea.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
We've been teasing this.
Speaker 8 (06:21):
Sorry, to Petros and I just want to I want
us to have enough time for you to maybe discuss.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
It and talk about it.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
It's close.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
It's close.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Oh I wish it was. I saw that clip, Petros,
and I almost called you that was I was just.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
Look, I had like a thousand plus people there and
Jeanie's sitting there, and then you know, Jeanie's like a
baby seal, like she's not that comfortable being interviewed, but
she does our show once a year because we go
way way back and doesn't care about the criticism and
she knows about it.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
And you guys are close to j Moore, so like
all makes sense.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
I don't know jymore that well. But but there might
be some other people involved in the show.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
The dude, I don't know. But she Uh.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
We mentioned Bronnie James like early and and and people
were like oh, like people were booing. I was like,
where I can get through the next seven minutes of
this interview and get this woman on her way.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Uh, but go ahead and play the sound.
Speaker 8 (07:21):
Okay, we want it because it this has to do
with Bronnie, but kind of sort of indirectly because it's
lebron talking about go ahead, right now, you let it go.
Speaker 9 (07:30):
You cannot call me Dad in the workplace, all right,
once we once we leave out of the private facility
and the gates close, I could be Dad again in
the car, if we ride together at home, I could
be Dad. No, he gotta call me like two three
or Bron okay, or you know, go if he wants to.
Speaker 8 (07:49):
That's up to him. I mean, I just would you
ever call him Goat? Would you call him Goat James?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
No? You know, I'm from a different air.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
I still think Michael Jordan's the greatest basketball player of
all time. But it can't be It can't be denied
that Lebron James is not maybe the most significant athlete
of his generation, without a doubt, probably is unless you
factor in all the soccer stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
He really is a marvel.
Speaker 7 (08:24):
He's going to be forty and he's still performing at
a great level. What it takes to run the Lebron
James industry, the way they fire people, move people around,
deny it all, manipulate the media. That kind of stuff
is unsavory to me, and I'm never going to be
(08:45):
cool with it.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
But you can't deny his greatness as an athlete.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
I mean, he's really he certainly wasn't denying it in
that No, well.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
He never well, when he said what was it, he
said that the block on the Varyears made him the
greatest player of all time.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
From that moment on, he's been a full on self propagandist,
which is whatever. That's fine. I mean, I guess it's fine.
I mean, Genie Buss said it to us. She considers
him a bargain. They make a lot of money off
Lebron James, whether that means wins and losses, I mean,
they don't compete for championships, which is what the Lakers
people thought that that's what the Lakers were all about.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Petros Petros in season, in season champs last year.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
So you're right, I'm sorry they raised that manner.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
But I mean, honestly, guys, it's we got a game
this week, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I mean, but I'm worried about it. So you're not.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
You're not bothered by two three or Bron or goat.
Speaker 7 (09:40):
Well, we're in the two three week comfort zone of
Genie Bus came on the show, So I'm being nice
for a couple of weeks. It's a cycle, guys, it's
been going on for like decades. I'm not I'm not
as offended by it. Look, the whole thing's going to
be insufferable.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
The thing was in you knew it was going to be.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
Insufferable and hard to swallow. When they picked a kid,
you knew it was going to be a gas lighting anthem.
That's and so we're just we're right on track for that.
Can't wait for media day.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I'm curious because we've talked about there not being a
preseason in college football. When you were playing, did you
ever felt like feel like you were ready to go
week one? Or was it like, yeah, help, this goes well?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Well.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
The camps we used to have were so horrible and
so intense and so without regulation and rules that by
the time Week one came, you were ready to rip
the head off your opponents, swinging around like a hammer,
throw into the stands. That being said, you would worry
about losing steam, you know, mid October, and that's usually
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what would happen to some of our teams when I
played for Paul Hackett, because we would literally have three
days and forty play run drills and just absolute death
march of a camp and you'd come out in Week
one and just physically eat somebody alive because you're so
pissed off. But then maybe your team starts to run
(11:13):
out of gas and injuries catch up. It's not a
perfect balance. But football is so much preparation, so much installment,
so much glacial pace in the offseason to get ready
just for one game. So yeah, you feel ready, I mean,
and if you're not, you don't even know the difference,
(11:34):
because you think you're ready. You think your team is awesome,
you think everybody's in great shape, you think everybody's ready
to go. Whether that's the case or not, it's hard
to say. Sometimes you get out on the field and
you know two or three guys are that used to
be standing right next to you are now laying down
like Private Ryan, and you're like, oh my god. But yeah,
(11:56):
but yeah, you always feel you always feel really anxious
to play the first game because you're tired of playing
against your own guys. You're tired of rooting against your defense,
rooting against your offense so to speak, in practice, and
really really having a deep hatred for those people.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Is there a party that feels like I mean, when
you watch the NFL preseason and go. It would be
nice to have like a warm up or something. And
do you look at the college football schedule and do
you just give teams like, for example, Penn State and
West Virginia, we're going to be there this weekend. Do
you give them more credit for scheduling a more difficult
Week one right out the game?
Speaker 7 (12:35):
Always do because that's what makes week one exciting. Like
I have Arizona State Wyoming, which is kind of an
afterthought of a game, but Wyoming won, you won, No,
they won nine games last year and Arizona State lost nine,
and of course they're reloaded and deeper. And I think
Kenny Dillingham's a really really interesting and impactful name in
(12:56):
college football, and he's got some tough circumstances there. But
I like that game because it feels like it's going.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
To be competitive, right.
Speaker 7 (13:04):
I mean, when somebody throws out Abilene Christian in Week one,
everybody's just going through the motions to stroke the other
team in the broadcast and it's a celebration of them
in a showcase. I'd much rather see yourself tested in
Week one. LSU USC is going to be interesting. You know,
at West Virginia is a much improved team with a
(13:25):
speedy quarterback and green and a coach that saved his
job Neil Brown last year took over the play calling.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
So I like that.
Speaker 7 (13:35):
I prefer that that was generally what happened when I
was at USC. We played Penn State or Purdue or
somebody like that in the opener, very rarely a team
that we were favored to win by thirty or something
like that. To me, that's a little bit better because
it gives you a measuring stick. And with the new playoff,
(13:59):
I don't think anybody really knows how it's going to
shake out.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
That's the thing.
Speaker 7 (14:02):
Everybody's acting like they haven't all figured out this year
and they know what it's going to be like, But
nobody really knows what it's going to be like at all,
because we've never done anything like this before, not to
this magnitude.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
You think your squad can beat LSU, that's a big win.
If they can get out to gate NB.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
I mean, yeah, yeah, I'm not in this realm where
it's like, oh my god, USC screwed. You know, they
have a new defensive staff. I'm very interested to see
if USC wins that game.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
It's not going to.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
Be because they scored fifty points, although if they do
they might win.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I think if they win the game.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
Guessing about the team, it'll be because they're much improved
physically upfront. You can't just run the ball all over
them like you've been able to the last decade or
so since two thousand and six two thousand and eight,
USC has been really susceptible to that. So if LSU,
I mean, and LSU's given up what like two thousand
(14:57):
yards rushing the last couple of years, they haven't stopped
the run very well either.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
It's not optimistic.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I don't know. I don't but that's the thing that's like,
I don't know at all.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
I mean, LSU's got a lot of different guys, but
most people just say it's an SEC team. USC is soft,
they've been saw and LSU is going to run over them.
That's what I mean, That's what you said.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
That happens though, how what will your reaction be?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Not surprised?
Speaker 7 (15:25):
But like, if somebody's going to run the football on you,
they're going to do it in week three, or they're
going to do it in week one, Like, let's figure
it out, right, USC's got an all new defensive staff.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Aga, you guys are in a different conference.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Well, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Run in that they run.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
And I understand what I'm saying is if USC is
going to be giving up a lot of run running
yards this year, it's either going to happen in week one,
week five, week eight. You should know what your susceptibility
is early, and they've hired all new people to stop
that kind of bleeding. So h we'll know. Man, I
(16:05):
don't know. I mean, I really don't know. I mean
last year they just weren't big enough and obviously didn't
have a great defensive scheme. They had to fire everybody
all Lincoln Riley's best friends and Miller Moss is going
to be the starter, and Lincoln Riley's going to be
calling place with more of a Baker Mayfield type of
guy or not as much of an improvisational quarterback. I
(16:28):
should say, uh so that'll be very different and maybe
a little bit more consistent for the offense. But as
far as having a real gauge on what's going to
happen in the game, I don't think us he's going
to get blown off the field.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
But then again, Brian Kelly. I mean, what has he won?
Nine to ten games?
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Is last year?
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Family, Ai'm done winning yet?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (16:50):
And yet though he has adopted quite a southern uh.
Speaker 8 (16:55):
Uh, that's right, they got some games left in them
that day needs still win him and his family.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Is he the winning most winning coach in the history
of Notre Dame?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
He is? He has more wins.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
I can't believe they let him beat a newt Rockbey's
record before that. They they would, that's what they need.
They didn't get rid of it, but I thought they
would get rid of him before. I mean, I thought
that that record. They were never going to let a
coach eclipse that record. But they let Brian Kelly eclipse
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in and then he left him at the altar.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
That's one way of putting it. I mean, I think
there's a lot more details behind the story. It's actually funny,
you know, that Lincoln Riley effect is ultimately how it
all came around. It was LSU who was originally looking
at Lincoln Riley, right, That's how Once and once that
fell through, the USC position came open and USC was
maybe inquiring about Brian Kelly's interest about coming out to
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be head coach and he wasn't going to do that.
But when Lincoln Riley it was interested in USC and
LSU was looking for a head coach, and then opened
up the opportunity for I don't know, maybe they're both
wrapped by the same agent and maybe it both kind
of worked out where Lincoln Riley goes to USC and
Brian Kelly goes to l s U.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
Yeah, but before that, I mean, it just shocks me
that they ever let him get that far. I never
I never was winning ten times. I never thought Notre
Dame would let a guy beat that record. I always
thought that they'd find a way to retire him or
get rid of him.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I'm not kiddicking me.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
He'd been into a national championship game and then two
college football playoffs.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Playing some drugs in his car fit out, you know
what I mean. I literally thought. I literally thought that
they would find like they they'd put him in, they'd
dip him in a lake, you know, or.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Something, get a trash bag full of method.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
His back look like the dairy queen when you get
the soft.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
New Rockley was like a national hero as a football coach.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I mean, I try to explain to people, people understand
he literally built the stadium there like he was port.
He was port general contractor. Like people don't understand that
the lengths of the house that Rockney bill was not
purely about the success that he had on the field.
It literally had to do with his vision for creating
a football only stadium, which was not the norm back then.
(19:22):
That's why you always had those tracks around the football
stadium was because usually it was a shared space. And
his vision was to make football have a venue like
that where people would come, and he built it.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
Kansas had a track up until a couple of years ago.
But yeah, Newt Rockney's legend and legacy and the myth
of it all.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
He had the Horseman, didn't he the Horseman?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
The four Horsemen?
Speaker 8 (19:49):
Yeah, where they coached by him.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
I thought, he.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
It's quite possible. I know Inside and mister Outside were army.
I know that. But but Newt Rockney, they had like radio.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Shows about him, like TV specials about his life, like
you can't imagine, like Nick Saban's stardom is a flickering
night light compared to the way people used to look
at new Rockney in the way Notre Dame revers him.
And I was just surprised they'd ever let anybody beat
that record. And then Brian Kelly beat that record and
(20:24):
some shisty agent helped him get down to Cajun country
like Southern comfort.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
That movie Petros. You're on Wyoming, Arizona State this weekend?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I am.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
One, by the way.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Yeah, they were the horsemen.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Yeah, they were go go go finish the plug.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Well just ten thirty Eastern Times.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Revelation, you know, the horsemen of the Apotmas.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
No, jeez, I think that was the opening ceremony for
the Olympics.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Yeah, ah, what I.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Mean, too much? Too many times and berries out there
for you.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Where are you going with those belt berries?
Speaker 8 (20:59):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (20:59):
No, just letting everybody know.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Ten thirty Eastern Times, seven thirty Pacific FS one on Saturday, Wyoming,
Chris Myer State.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Yeah yeah, yah boom, there you.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Got kid, because I care.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
About Tell me about Sigal here? What's he looking for.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
A Yeah, what is he looking for here?
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Looking for to wind? Yes, he want them to wind it.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Of course he is, uh Petro, So we appreciate it again.
At the old p on x is where you can
find him, and yes, he'll be on the call. Wyoming
Arizona State ten thirty Eastern times Saturday night on FS one.
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Speaker 6 (22:34):
Can I ask you serious question.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
Yeah, are y'all pro cran grape or pro cran apple?
Speaker 5 (22:48):
I just like regular cran.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
No fusion, Nah, no fusion, you know meta ley yeah, Q.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
And alson what's the question?
Speaker 8 (23:01):
I'm sorry, are you pro cran grape or pro cran apple?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I don't. I don't really. I don't think I've had either. Really, Yeah, Dan,
I don't drink a lot of like juice or anything
like that. I would say the last time I had
cranberry would be in a KFC, which is kettle fresco
and a splash of cranberry, a splash. Yeah, Well, you
(23:30):
don't want to too much in there, you know. I
think there's a good line from The Departed that kind
of you know, sets the top.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Can we say that? I was just about to say
that lineup?
Speaker 8 (23:39):
You want to say that the opening line. I don't
say the whole entire thing.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
What do you want your say the whole entire deal?
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Come on, Jack in the beginning, Come on say the
whole thing.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
I can't.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Oh, I really want to, you should, but I can't. Yeah,
there's a lot of a lot of lines from that movie.
But yeah, if you're sitting next to Leonardo DiCaprio to
throw it out.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Hard or up in there?
Speaker 5 (24:01):
You know, do they do they? Lee? Yeah, I just go.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
If I was never gonna if I was never gonna
have cranberry, I just go straight cran I don't need apple,
I don't need peach, I don't need you know, grape,
none of the other fusions.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Just let it rock.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
I also add a little bit.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Of water in cranberry whenever I have it as well, too,
you know, is a little bit of sugar.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Yeah, it does taste very sugary.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Yeah, what are you shaking your head for?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Lee?
Speaker 5 (24:34):
What's the last time you had cranberry without vodka and it?
Speaker 11 (24:38):
That is a good point, now that you bring that up,
I guess I do water down my I.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Gonna say some mind doesn't have any alcohol in it,
So I'm the a hole.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Yeah, I hate it when that happens, watering down the.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I think the point that Lee's making is the only
reason he's actually drinking cranberry juice is because it's an
alcoholic where it's like, we're judging you for drinking cranberry
without alcohol in it.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I mean I don't drink it anyways.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
But Brady, I remember Brady telling me one time. He's like,
you know what, man like, you don't need to drink
juice because it looks like you're on it. And I
was like, oh, it's a great point, sang. I just
took the compliment and ran with it. Actually, no juice,
no juice. Well he's gone, so there is no more juice. Okay,
this is you made it your mama joke earlier. Now
(25:24):
you talked about my dead dog. What's going on with you?
Speaker 6 (25:27):
And I just hit and I just hit Orienthiol too.
You know. There you go.
Speaker 8 (25:34):
It was a mama joke though, I mean, it wasn't.
It wasn't directed towards anyone, you know. It was just
your mama, you know.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Uh well, uh, your mama and your pop.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
Let's add do let's do let's do the radio formatics,
as Q would.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Say, your mama and you'll pop on two pros and
a cup of Joe wants you to know that the
NFL is changing. Uh and thank god we've got Brady
Quinn here to break all down and pups. No more
private equity now allowed in the NFL, up to ten percent.
Brady Quinn, what can you tell us how expensive bear
is going to get what how expensive for beer is
(26:13):
going to get a games?
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Now?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Well, it does beg the question like why now? And
I think the immediate and the immediate thought is for
a lot of the family owned franchises and teams out there,
they'd like to be able to cash out. And one
of the ways they do that is they sell a
portion of their equity that they've gotten the team, because
(26:36):
contrary to what a lot of us think, they don't
generate as much cash I mean straight cash when it's
all said and done that the owners can take home
and put in their pockets. And so this is the
way they go about doing it. And so if you
look at the valuation of a team, and that's what
I'm most interested in is how these private equity companies
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who are now allowed to own up to ten percent
of the franchise, how are they being evaluated? You know,
how are they coming up with these valuations? Is there
a standard? Is Roger Goodell in some fashion or form
helping to put together the formula or the metrics they're using,
you know, in the NBA, it's much more kind of
(27:19):
like a baseline of hay, here's what it's worth, right,
Here's what these Uh, these organizations are generating cash flow wise,
et cetera. You know, media rights deal and all that stuff.
With other franchises, it kind of fluctuates, and it's a
little harder to put your finger on exactly how they
go about constructing the value of what these are worth.
(27:40):
And the reason why that's important is because you know,
you obviously want to have a lot of these teams
working off of, you know, very similar metrics, so you
have an idea at least for a level playing field.
You know, if you get one private equity company that
comes in and values a franchise at four billion, that
means they can infuse that ownership group with four hundred
(28:01):
million in capital and cash. And if you've got another
that comes in at two billion, obviously it's two hundred million,
so it's half the amount. So you can kind of
understand some of the issues that you may run into
in figuring out like how they go about constructing, well,
how do they get to that ten percent? Like what
does that ten percent look like? And the reason why
that's important is for the owners they won't have cash
(28:22):
in their pockets. Now. The spiel and what they're going
to try to spin to you is this. It's more
cash so they can do stadium improvements and they can
help improve the franchise, and they can do this, this
and that. But I think we've all seen throughout time
when you provide and like the owner a chance to
(28:43):
cash out, they're going to cash out, Like it will
probably go to a yacht, It'll probably go to a
couple of their estates, a private plane at G five.
You know, it's that's typically how it ends up working.
And look, they've worked hard for it, and they've obviously
had had an NFL franchise and there's a lot to
be said that so that's their prerogative. But the point
is that you bring up is how is it going
(29:05):
to affect the fan experience? How's it going to affect
the player experience? And that's what I think we're gonna
have to, you know, try to figure out, like I
can only speculate, you know, could beer prices go up potentially?
But remember this is only a ten percent ownership stake.
You know, private equity companies are generally investing in companies
(29:25):
that are not publicly traded in the like stock exchanges
for example, right, and you know, oftentimes they'll try to
go in as the general partner, so they're gonna have
like kind of more of a majority uh stake in
all of this. In this case, they're what's called an LP,
a limited partner, and so they don't have any rights,
they don't voting rights or nothing. And in fact, you know,
these private equity groups can actually invest into up to
(29:47):
six teams, so they could technically have a ten percent
stake in six separate teams, or a percentage of that
ten percent stake that goes to private equity. You know,
maybe you want to give one private equity company three,
another three and other three someone else won something like that.
But they can have end up to six teams. And
so the NFL has already come out and said, look,
(30:08):
we can't give all these guys or all these private
equity companies uh information and disclose so much because you know,
then it would be a conflict of interest and they'd
have all this you know, inside information on different you know,
operations that things going on. So that's that's one kind
of I guess box they've checked as far as handling that.
(30:28):
What I'm curious is is are they going to get
the returns they're looking for? You know, typically in private equity.
You know, you're you're looking there's a risk reward balance,
and in most cases you're not necessarily always looking for
cash flow right away. You're looking for cash flow probably
in year three, four five, after you've been able to
go in and implement different strategies that are supposed to
help improve the cash flow. So, you know, are these
(30:50):
limited partners only you know, coming into to provide cash
are they coming in as strategic partners who are going
to help them figure out how to essentially put that
work capital into the mix and and help out, you know,
improve their operations or improve the stadium operations. And they
were well fan experience, you know, we don't know. It's
it's something that I think is going to happen relatively
(31:10):
quickly because it's been voted on and passed, and I
think there's been a lot of UH franchises who are
looking for this opportunity to cash out and and and
and you know, have this influx of you know cash
to help either you know, pad their pockets or help
out with the you know, various portions of their organization
that need help. So you know, there's there's still a
lot of questions as to what it's going to look like.
(31:32):
But I think it's going to have an impact in
the sense of hopefully a better fan experience and obviously
an impact on these owners and being able to uh
finally get the cash they feel like they probably deserve
at least at this point time. And look, maybe some
of them ended up kind of going all in and
using some of the cash to spend on you know,
free agents and sot of signing, but different things like
(31:53):
that that will help improve their roster.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
So there's more parody in the NFL. First thing I
thought was, is this toad toe dipping? Are you dipping
your toe in on allowing your franchise to go? Are
you cashing? Are you seeing what this feels like before
you cash all the way out as the NFL, as
(32:18):
as owners, because they got to all be on the
same page with stuff like this, because you you are,
in essence, you're still you're you're exposing what your operation
is to to inequity to to private equity groups. I
started thinking to myself, and it's come up in our prior,
(32:39):
you know, previous previous shows. When does the bubble burst
for the National Football League popularity? When does when do
you hit the ceiling of what what this game is
able to do, what it's able to generate. I mean,
these guys got to have they're certainly forecasting Midell, the owners,
(33:01):
they're forecasting. And that's why there's so many different things
that are taking place. You see so many you know,
pivoting from just having the draft in one place, trying
to make it a more international, nationally uh you know,
consumed game. It's just at some point the the sport
(33:22):
has to hit a ceiling at some point, and what.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
Better way to see, if you know.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
What, before it hits the ceiling, before it gets to
that point of where there's no return and it's not
at its highest value anymore. Because these are still businessmen
we're talking about that owned these these franchises. In most cases,
when when is the time to pull the ripcord. Not
that the the NFL is going to fall off and
(33:49):
not be what it is, but at some point it's
like there's no more growth, there's no more growth, and
are they are they testing out the market to see
what they can do, because you ultimately can establish more
value by bringing in private equity. You can also establish
(34:10):
a new trend. If we give up ten percent. Ten
percent isn't a super significant amount. So if we give
up ten percent and that that feels good, it looks good,
who's to say you don't give up another ten you know,
who's to say, now it's like kind of like all right,
you know, here's where we're going with it. And then
now you put you basically put the NFL on on
(34:34):
auto crews like it's on auto palette, because you're going
to have you're not it's not going to be the
Roonies or the Browns.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
It's not going to be family oriented.
Speaker 8 (34:45):
It's going to be it's going to be a corporate deal,
and it's going.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
To be ran like. It's going to be ran like
a corporate deal.
Speaker 8 (34:53):
It almost could turn into you know, like franchising, as
in franchising, not not franchises that are owned by families,
but these have now turned into franchises like somebody owns
all of them. Who's to say that it doesn't end
up being somebody who owns all of them and franchises
and out to somebody else.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
I don't know what direction it goes in, but I
think that you got to.
Speaker 8 (35:17):
Be at least for me, I'm interested in understanding what
the business model evolves into, because at some point the
level of growth is not going to be there like
it has been for the National Football League.
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Speaker 1 (36:44):
See there you go. The patent go line is gone.
Everyone's dancing. No one's throwing footballs like Petro's talked about
how you would run and just turn around like you
throw the ball up. There's no one they're running. Everyone's dancing.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
By the way, I would lay out in the patent
go line that ball was thrown too far.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
I'd make an effort. It's the only time I got
on the field.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
Interesting.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
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Speaker 3 (37:43):
Let's go to the news desk.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Now here's Brady Quinn.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Yeah, alright, uh oh, this is really Two Pros and
a cup.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Of show what you to know?
Speaker 5 (37:59):
What happened?
Speaker 7 (38:01):
Please?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Or what they're out?
Speaker 11 (38:04):
One thing we all know is that we're cluck guys
and that the rundown is Bible. Well, there was a
mistake on the rundown today. There's no PQ news. It's
you in er out? So you guys inner out on
the PAK news?
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Is it at the end of an era?
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Man, it's the end of an hour. Unfortunately, on showing
to keep going so he can not do this segment.
Speaker 8 (38:24):
Apparently, what do I wanted news from the Great State
of Florida.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Well, that's that's good because I do have some Florida
news for you.
Speaker 11 (38:31):
Florida man Palm Beach Shores, David Goalie, seventy five years old,
pulls out a knife after his wife gets wine wine
spilled up.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
What what?
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Pulls out?
Speaker 11 (38:40):
A pulls out a steak knife off the table and
attacks the manager after he poured wine on his uh
on his wife.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
I mean that's reasonable. I don't know what's rate.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Are you doing the news segment right now? Lee? And
what happened? I thought we're doing in or out?
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Are you in or out?
Speaker 7 (38:52):
On?
Speaker 11 (38:53):
Pulling out a steak knife on the manager after he
pours wine on your wife.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
I'm out on answering that.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
I am in.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I'm out. That seems a little engregious, but you know.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
I'm in Lee. I'm in on that too. What else
we got Lee?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Guys?
Speaker 11 (39:11):
Happy birthdays to Honey Boo boo Jack Black Leeann rhymes
in all.
Speaker 8 (39:15):
Right, Jack Black is performing in state college. That's my nickname,
that's Lee's nickname.
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And it is a Wednesday, which means it's time for
one of the favorite traditions on this show. For many
people out there, as we get a visit from our guy,
the old p Petro's Papadakis, the co host of the
Petros and Money Show, which you can hear on the
(01:19):
Blowtorch AM five to seven, E LA Sports Fox college
football analyst and our good friend Pete.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
What's happening that.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Good cigal early in the morning.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
That's great.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
And Lady Saw, Yes, Lady Saw sound like Petra.
Speaker 7 (01:37):
Lady Patra, although famous in our day, LeVar, nowhere near
as impactful dancehall world as a Lady Saw. The Lady
Saw is no longer Lady Saw. She had no she's
born again, yeah, mother, mother, No, she doesn't use Saw
(01:58):
at all anymore. She just goes by her name Marion.
I forget her last name. But anyway, she's become Yeah,
she's become born again and she still performs, but mostly gospel.
And she's had now that she got rid of the
slackness lyrics which are you know, sexual lyrics and stuff
(02:19):
like that. She does not Marion Hall, that's her name.
She can't get a visa anymore. Oh wait, because Marian Hall,
who does like that? Uh, I don't know what kind
of music that is? What Marion Hall. Yeah, well there
could be two. You know, it's a big world. But
Marion Hall, lady saw it really is probably the most
(02:42):
famous female dance hall performer of all time. No Doubt
used her on a song. Steven Sagall used her on
a song. A lot of rappers have used her and
stuff like Marion Hills.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Who I was thinking of.
Speaker 7 (02:56):
That is that is like a seven or eight yard out,
like over the head of the receiver overthrow.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
That's the you know, hey, first series first gave it
little get up there. That's the thing you say as
a quarterback pat shows. Do you ever hear the quarterback
they used to go get up? It's like hope you
can pray, think at last moment and I'm very tired
yours pick up?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
He's get up.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
You guys know what Patton goes, well, you guys do,
but that the listeners, Patten go is like a way
to you know, warm up in football.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
The only way I got on the field after the
walk through.
Speaker 7 (03:32):
Uh you do the thing where the quarterback pats the
ball and everybody just kind of runs, you know, a
little route quarterbacks arm warm up. If the dude threw
it too far, I just stop and turn around.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I wouldn't even go get it.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Oh you were one of those guys.
Speaker 7 (03:45):
Oh if the dude was all juiced up and like
four string quarterback like pat and go like it's like
all right.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
At Laser Show, I remember remember when that soldier boy
tell him or whatever wherever that however that song went
y yeah, that song. We were there like the Superman
all yeah, that song. It's single handedly ruined the patten
(04:10):
Go line in Cleveland. I'll never forget that song coming
on and not one skill player, not one paid attention
to anything that was happening in patten Go and it
just started dancing and doing the Superman or whatever that was.
And I was like, what is happening? Is this is
this normal in the NFL? Is how this goes?
Speaker 7 (04:30):
I had an epiphany like that at USC where there
was the John Robinson had there was this chick named
Jamie and she wore like a holster like for guns,
but instead of the of a gun, instead of a
gun and the holster, it was the air horn.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You know, to blow the horn, and the horn you know.
Speaker 7 (04:49):
In practice it indicates that you know you're changing periods
or if you get the three toots practice is over
and everybody wants practic this to be over. And there's
nothing football players hate more than football practice. And I
remember John Robinson would go and then the guys started
(05:16):
doing like they had like a song, which.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Was Jake me blowing a horn and Jamie blow and
it was very distracting.
Speaker 7 (05:27):
He couldn't get any work here at the end of
practice with the blow the horn.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Chaps, wait, hold lot of that fi way that John
Robinson might be up there with one of your best ever.
Speaker 7 (05:35):
Oh yeah, my Jay Robb is probably my best, but
you know, not as significant as a coach anymore as
he used to be. But yeah, John Robinson and he
really used to like point at her like almost like
very cinematically. And I might have seen Jamie doing more
than blowing a horn once in the dab.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
And I was I was shocked, good Grace.
Speaker 7 (06:00):
I was absolutely young, a young, impressional white tailback, and
I was.
Speaker 8 (06:06):
Sure we got some sound for you. I know, I'm
sure Jonas was going to do it.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
No, I was going.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
I didn't want to piss you off, p I just
want to for the record, I have part.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
This is my idea.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
We've been teasing this.
Speaker 8 (06:21):
Sorry, to Petros and I just want to I want
us to have enough time for you to maybe discuss.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
It and talk about it.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
It's close.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
It's close.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Oh I wish it was. I saw that clip, Petros,
and I almost called you that was I was just.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
Look, I had like a thousand plus people there and
Jeanie's sitting there, and then you know, Jeanie's like a
baby seal, like she's not that comfortable being interviewed, but
she does our show once a year because we go
way way back and doesn't care about the criticism and
she knows about it.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
And you guys are close to j Moore, so like
all makes sense.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
I don't know jymore that well. But but there might
be some other people involved in the show.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
The dude, I don't know. But she Uh.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
We mentioned Bronnie James like early and and and people
were like oh, like people were booing. I was like,
where I can get through the next seven minutes of
this interview and get this woman on her way.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Uh, but go ahead and play the sound.
Speaker 8 (07:21):
Okay, we want it because it this has to do
with Bronnie, but kind of sort of indirectly because it's
lebron talking about go ahead, right now, you let it go.
Speaker 9 (07:30):
You cannot call me Dad in the workplace, all right,
once we once we leave out of the private facility
and the gates close, I could be Dad again in
the car, if we ride together at home, I could
be Dad. No, he gotta call me like two three
or Bron okay, or you know, go if he wants to.
Speaker 8 (07:49):
That's up to him. I mean, I just would you
ever call him Goat? Would you call him Goat James?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
No? You know, I'm from a different air.
Speaker 7 (08:05):
I still think Michael Jordan's the greatest basketball player of
all time. But it can't be It can't be denied
that Lebron James is not maybe the most significant athlete
of his generation, without a doubt, probably is unless you
factor in all the soccer stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
He really is a marvel.
Speaker 7 (08:24):
He's going to be forty and he's still performing at
a great level. What it takes to run the Lebron
James industry, the way they fire people, move people around,
deny it all, manipulate the media. That kind of stuff
is unsavory to me, and I'm never going to be
(08:45):
cool with it.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
But you can't deny his greatness as an athlete.
Speaker 8 (08:48):
I mean, he's really he certainly wasn't denying it in
that No, well.
Speaker 7 (08:52):
He never well, when he said what was it, he
said that the block on the Varyears made him the
greatest player of all time.
Speaker 6 (08:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:00):
From that moment on, he's been a full on self propagandist,
which is whatever. That's fine. I mean, I guess it's fine.
I mean, Genie Buss said it to us. She considers
him a bargain. They make a lot of money off
Lebron James, whether that means wins and losses, I mean,
they don't compete for championships, which is what the Lakers
people thought that that's what the Lakers were all about.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Petros Petros in season, in season champs last year.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
So you're right, I'm sorry they raised that manner.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
But I mean, honestly, guys, it's we got a game
this week, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I mean, but I'm worried about it. So you're not.
Speaker 5 (09:36):
You're not bothered by two three or Bron or goat.
Speaker 7 (09:40):
Well, we're in the two three week comfort zone of
Genie Bus came on the show, So I'm being nice
for a couple of weeks. It's a cycle, guys, it's
been going on for like decades. I'm not I'm not
as offended by it. Look, the whole thing's going to
be insufferable.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
The thing was in you knew it was going to be.
Speaker 7 (10:02):
Insufferable and hard to swallow. When they picked a kid,
you knew it was going to be a gas lighting anthem.
That's and so we're just we're right on track for that.
Can't wait for media day.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I'm curious because we've talked about there not being a
preseason in college football. When you were playing, did you
ever felt like feel like you were ready to go
week one? Or was it like, yeah, help, this goes well?
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Well.
Speaker 7 (10:30):
The camps we used to have were so horrible and
so intense and so without regulation and rules that by
the time Week one came, you were ready to rip
the head off your opponents, swinging around like a hammer,
throw into the stands. That being said, you would worry
about losing steam, you know, mid October, and that's usually
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what would happen to some of our teams when I
played for Paul Hackett, because we would literally have three
days and forty play run drills and just absolute death
march of a camp and you'd come out in Week
one and just physically eat somebody alive because you're so
pissed off. But then maybe your team starts to run
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out of gas and injuries catch up. It's not a
perfect balance. But football is so much preparation, so much installment,
so much glacial pace in the offseason to get ready
just for one game. So yeah, you feel ready, I mean,
and if you're not, you don't even know the difference,
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because you think you're ready. You think your team is awesome,
you think everybody's in great shape, you think everybody's ready
to go. Whether that's the case or not, it's hard
to say. Sometimes you get out on the field and
you know two or three guys are that used to
be standing right next to you are now laying down
like Private Ryan, and you're like, oh my god. But yeah,
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but yeah, you always feel you always feel really anxious
to play the first game because you're tired of playing
against your own guys. You're tired of rooting against your defense,
rooting against your offense so to speak, in practice, and
really really having a deep hatred for those people.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Is there a party that feels like I mean, when
you watch the NFL preseason and go. It would be
nice to have like a warm up or something. And
do you look at the college football schedule and do
you just give teams like, for example, Penn State and
West Virginia, we're going to be there this weekend. Do
you give them more credit for scheduling a more difficult
Week one right out the game?
Speaker 7 (12:35):
Always do because that's what makes week one exciting. Like
I have Arizona State Wyoming, which is kind of an
afterthought of a game, but Wyoming won, you won, No,
they won nine games last year and Arizona State lost nine,
and of course they're reloaded and deeper. And I think
Kenny Dillingham's a really really interesting and impactful name in
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college football, and he's got some tough circumstances there. But
I like that game because it feels like it's going.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
To be competitive, right.
Speaker 7 (13:04):
I mean, when somebody throws out Abilene Christian in Week one,
everybody's just going through the motions to stroke the other
team in the broadcast and it's a celebration of them
in a showcase. I'd much rather see yourself tested in
Week one. LSU USC is going to be interesting. You know,
at West Virginia is a much improved team with a
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speedy quarterback and green and a coach that saved his
job Neil Brown last year took over the play calling.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
So I like that.
Speaker 7 (13:35):
I prefer that that was generally what happened when I
was at USC. We played Penn State or Purdue or
somebody like that in the opener, very rarely a team
that we were favored to win by thirty or something
like that. To me, that's a little bit better because
it gives you a measuring stick. And with the new playoff,
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I don't think anybody really knows how it's going to
shake out.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
That's the thing.
Speaker 7 (14:02):
Everybody's acting like they haven't all figured out this year
and they know what it's going to be like, But
nobody really knows what it's going to be like at all,
because we've never done anything like this before, not to
this magnitude.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
You think your squad can beat LSU, that's a big win.
If they can get out to gate NB.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
I mean, yeah, yeah, I'm not in this realm where
it's like, oh my god, USC screwed. You know, they
have a new defensive staff. I'm very interested to see
if USC wins that game.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
It's not going to.
Speaker 7 (14:30):
Be because they scored fifty points, although if they do
they might win.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I think if they win the game.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
Guessing about the team, it'll be because they're much improved
physically upfront. You can't just run the ball all over
them like you've been able to the last decade or
so since two thousand and six two thousand and eight,
USC has been really susceptible to that. So if LSU,
I mean, and LSU's given up what like two thousand
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yards rushing the last couple of years, they haven't stopped
the run very well either.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
It's not optimistic.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I don't know. I don't but that's the thing that's like,
I don't know at all.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
I mean, LSU's got a lot of different guys, but
most people just say it's an SEC team. USC is soft,
they've been saw and LSU is going to run over them.
That's what I mean, That's what you said.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
That happens though, how what will your reaction be?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Not surprised?
Speaker 7 (15:25):
But like, if somebody's going to run the football on you,
they're going to do it in week three, or they're
going to do it in week one, Like, let's figure
it out, right, USC's got an all new defensive staff.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Aga, you guys are in a different conference.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Well, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Run in that they run.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
And I understand what I'm saying is if USC is
going to be giving up a lot of run running
yards this year, it's either going to happen in week one,
week five, week eight. You should know what your susceptibility
is early, and they've hired all new people to stop
that kind of bleeding. So h we'll know. Man, I
(16:05):
don't know. I mean, I really don't know. I mean
last year they just weren't big enough and obviously didn't
have a great defensive scheme. They had to fire everybody
all Lincoln Riley's best friends and Miller Moss is going
to be the starter, and Lincoln Riley's going to be
calling place with more of a Baker Mayfield type of
guy or not as much of an improvisational quarterback. I
(16:28):
should say, uh so that'll be very different and maybe
a little bit more consistent for the offense. But as
far as having a real gauge on what's going to
happen in the game, I don't think us he's going
to get blown off the field.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
But then again, Brian Kelly. I mean, what has he won?
Nine to ten games?
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Is last year?
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Family, Ai'm done winning yet?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (16:50):
And yet though he has adopted quite a southern uh.
Speaker 8 (16:55):
Uh, that's right, they got some games left in them
that day needs still win him and his family.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Is he the winning most winning coach in the history
of Notre Dame?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
He is? He has more wins.
Speaker 7 (17:07):
I can't believe they let him beat a newt Rockbey's
record before that. They they would, that's what they need.
They didn't get rid of it, but I thought they
would get rid of him before. I mean, I thought
that that record. They were never going to let a
coach eclipse that record. But they let Brian Kelly eclipse
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in and then he left him at the altar.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
That's one way of putting it. I mean, I think
there's a lot more details behind the story. It's actually funny,
you know, that Lincoln Riley effect is ultimately how it
all came around. It was LSU who was originally looking
at Lincoln Riley, right, That's how Once and once that
fell through, the USC position came open and USC was
maybe inquiring about Brian Kelly's interest about coming out to
(17:55):
be head coach and he wasn't going to do that.
But when Lincoln Riley it was interested in USC and
LSU was looking for a head coach, and then opened
up the opportunity for I don't know, maybe they're both
wrapped by the same agent and maybe it both kind
of worked out where Lincoln Riley goes to USC and
Brian Kelly goes to l s U.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
Yeah, but before that, I mean, it just shocks me
that they ever let him get that far. I never
I never was winning ten times. I never thought Notre
Dame would let a guy beat that record. I always
thought that they'd find a way to retire him or
get rid of him.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I'm not kiddicking me.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
He'd been into a national championship game and then two
college football playoffs.
Speaker 7 (18:39):
Playing some drugs in his car fit out, you know
what I mean. I literally thought. I literally thought that
they would find like they they'd put him in, they'd
dip him in a lake, you know, or.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Something, get a trash bag full of method.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
His back look like the dairy queen when you get
the soft.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
New Rockley was like a national hero as a football coach.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I mean, I try to explain to people, people understand
he literally built the stadium there like he was port.
He was port general contractor. Like people don't understand that
the lengths of the house that Rockney bill was not
purely about the success that he had on the field.
It literally had to do with his vision for creating
a football only stadium, which was not the norm back then.
(19:22):
That's why you always had those tracks around the football
stadium was because usually it was a shared space. And
his vision was to make football have a venue like
that where people would come, and he built it.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
Kansas had a track up until a couple of years ago.
But yeah, Newt Rockney's legend and legacy and the myth
of it all.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
He had the Horseman, didn't he the Horseman?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
The four Horsemen?
Speaker 8 (19:49):
Yeah, where they coached by him.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
I thought, he.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
It's quite possible. I know Inside and mister Outside were army.
I know that. But but Newt Rockney, they had like radio.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Shows about him, like TV specials about his life, like
you can't imagine, like Nick Saban's stardom is a flickering
night light compared to the way people used to look
at new Rockney in the way Notre Dame revers him.
And I was just surprised they'd ever let anybody beat
that record. And then Brian Kelly beat that record and
(20:24):
some shisty agent helped him get down to Cajun country
like Southern comfort.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
That movie Petros. You're on Wyoming, Arizona State this weekend?
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I am.
Speaker 6 (20:34):
One, by the way.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Yeah, they were the horsemen.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
Yeah, they were go go go finish the plug.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Well just ten thirty Eastern Times.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Revelation, you know, the horsemen of the Apotmas.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
No, jeez, I think that was the opening ceremony for
the Olympics.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Yeah, ah, what I.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Mean, too much? Too many times and berries out there
for you.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Where are you going with those belt berries?
Speaker 8 (20:59):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (20:59):
No, just letting everybody know.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Ten thirty Eastern Times, seven thirty Pacific FS one on Saturday, Wyoming,
Chris Myer State.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Yeah yeah, yah boom, there you.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Got kid, because I care.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
About Tell me about Sigal here? What's he looking for.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
A Yeah, what is he looking for here?
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Looking for to wind? Yes, he want them to wind it.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Of course he is, uh Petro, So we appreciate it again.
At the old p on x is where you can
find him, and yes, he'll be on the call. Wyoming
Arizona State ten thirty Eastern times Saturday night on FS one.
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Speaker 6 (22:34):
Can I ask you serious question.
Speaker 8 (22:37):
Yeah, are y'all pro cran grape or pro cran apple?
Speaker 5 (22:48):
I just like regular cran.
Speaker 8 (22:52):
No fusion, Nah, no fusion, you know meta ley yeah, Q.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
And alson what's the question?
Speaker 8 (23:01):
I'm sorry, are you pro cran grape or pro cran apple?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I don't. I don't really. I don't think I've had either. Really, Yeah, Dan,
I don't drink a lot of like juice or anything
like that. I would say the last time I had
cranberry would be in a KFC, which is kettle fresco
and a splash of cranberry, a splash. Yeah, Well, you
(23:30):
don't want to too much in there, you know. I
think there's a good line from The Departed that kind
of you know, sets the top.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Can we say that? I was just about to say
that lineup?
Speaker 8 (23:39):
You want to say that the opening line. I don't
say the whole entire thing.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
What do you want your say the whole entire deal?
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Come on, Jack in the beginning, Come on say the
whole thing.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
I can't.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Oh, I really want to, you should, but I can't. Yeah,
there's a lot of a lot of lines from that movie.
But yeah, if you're sitting next to Leonardo DiCaprio to
throw it out.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
Hard or up in there?
Speaker 5 (24:01):
You know, do they do they? Lee? Yeah, I just go.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
If I was never gonna if I was never gonna
have cranberry, I just go straight cran I don't need apple,
I don't need peach, I don't need you know, grape,
none of the other fusions.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Just let it rock.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
I also add a little bit.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Of water in cranberry whenever I have it as well, too,
you know, is a little bit of sugar.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Yeah, it does taste very sugary.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Yeah, what are you shaking your head for?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Lee?
Speaker 5 (24:34):
What's the last time you had cranberry without vodka and it?
Speaker 11 (24:38):
That is a good point, now that you bring that up,
I guess I do water down my I.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
Gonna say some mind doesn't have any alcohol in it,
So I'm the a hole.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Yeah, I hate it when that happens, watering down the.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I think the point that Lee's making is the only
reason he's actually drinking cranberry juice is because it's an
alcoholic where it's like, we're judging you for drinking cranberry
without alcohol in it.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I mean I don't drink it anyways.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
But Brady, I remember Brady telling me one time. He's like,
you know what, man like, you don't need to drink
juice because it looks like you're on it. And I
was like, oh, it's a great point, sang. I just
took the compliment and ran with it. Actually, no juice,
no juice. Well he's gone, so there is no more juice. Okay,
this is you made it your mama joke earlier. Now
(25:24):
you talked about my dead dog. What's going on with you?
Speaker 6 (25:27):
And I just hit and I just hit Orienthiol too.
You know. There you go.
Speaker 8 (25:34):
It was a mama joke though, I mean, it wasn't.
It wasn't directed towards anyone, you know. It was just
your mama, you know.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Uh well, uh, your mama and your pop.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
Let's add do let's do let's do the radio formatics,
as Q would.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Say, your mama and you'll pop on two pros and
a cup of Joe wants you to know that the
NFL is changing. Uh and thank god we've got Brady
Quinn here to break all down and pups. No more
private equity now allowed in the NFL, up to ten percent.
Brady Quinn, what can you tell us how expensive bear
is going to get what how expensive for beer is
(26:13):
going to get a games?
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Now?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Well, it does beg the question like why now? And
I think the immediate and the immediate thought is for
a lot of the family owned franchises and teams out there,
they'd like to be able to cash out. And one
of the ways they do that is they sell a
portion of their equity that they've gotten the team, because
(26:36):
contrary to what a lot of us think, they don't
generate as much cash I mean straight cash when it's
all said and done that the owners can take home
and put in their pockets. And so this is the
way they go about doing it. And so if you
look at the valuation of a team, and that's what
I'm most interested in is how these private equity companies
(26:57):
who are now allowed to own up to ten percent
of the franchise, how are they being evaluated? You know,
how are they coming up with these valuations? Is there
a standard? Is Roger Goodell in some fashion or form
helping to put together the formula or the metrics they're using,
you know, in the NBA, it's much more kind of
(27:19):
like a baseline of hay, here's what it's worth, right,
Here's what these Uh, these organizations are generating cash flow wise,
et cetera. You know, media rights deal and all that stuff.
With other franchises, it kind of fluctuates, and it's a
little harder to put your finger on exactly how they
go about constructing the value of what these are worth.
(27:40):
And the reason why that's important is because you know,
you obviously want to have a lot of these teams
working off of, you know, very similar metrics, so you
have an idea at least for a level playing field.
You know, if you get one private equity company that
comes in and values a franchise at four billion, that
means they can infuse that ownership group with four hundred
(28:01):
million in capital and cash. And if you've got another
that comes in at two billion, obviously it's two hundred million,
so it's half the amount. So you can kind of
understand some of the issues that you may run into
in figuring out like how they go about constructing, well,
how do they get to that ten percent? Like what
does that ten percent look like? And the reason why
that's important is for the owners they won't have cash
(28:22):
in their pockets. Now. The spiel and what they're going
to try to spin to you is this. It's more
cash so they can do stadium improvements and they can
help improve the franchise, and they can do this, this
and that. But I think we've all seen throughout time
when you provide and like the owner a chance to
(28:43):
cash out, they're going to cash out, Like it will
probably go to a yacht, It'll probably go to a
couple of their estates, a private plane at G five.
You know, it's that's typically how it ends up working.
And look, they've worked hard for it, and they've obviously
had had an NFL franchise and there's a lot to
be said that so that's their prerogative. But the point
is that you bring up is how is it going
(29:05):
to affect the fan experience? How's it going to affect
the player experience? And that's what I think we're gonna
have to, you know, try to figure out, like I
can only speculate, you know, could beer prices go up potentially?
But remember this is only a ten percent ownership stake.
You know, private equity companies are generally investing in companies
(29:25):
that are not publicly traded in the like stock exchanges
for example, right, and you know, oftentimes they'll try to
go in as the general partner, so they're gonna have
like kind of more of a majority uh stake in
all of this. In this case, they're what's called an LP,
a limited partner, and so they don't have any rights,
they don't voting rights or nothing. And in fact, you know,
these private equity groups can actually invest into up to
(29:47):
six teams, so they could technically have a ten percent
stake in six separate teams, or a percentage of that
ten percent stake that goes to private equity. You know,
maybe you want to give one private equity company three,
another three and other three someone else won something like that.
But they can have end up to six teams. And
so the NFL has already come out and said, look,
(30:08):
we can't give all these guys or all these private
equity companies uh information and disclose so much because you know,
then it would be a conflict of interest and they'd
have all this you know, inside information on different you know,
operations that things going on. So that's that's one kind
of I guess box they've checked as far as handling that.
(30:28):
What I'm curious is is are they going to get
the returns they're looking for? You know, typically in private equity.
You know, you're you're looking there's a risk reward balance,
and in most cases you're not necessarily always looking for
cash flow right away. You're looking for cash flow probably
in year three, four five, after you've been able to
go in and implement different strategies that are supposed to
help improve the cash flow. So, you know, are these
(30:50):
limited partners only you know, coming into to provide cash
are they coming in as strategic partners who are going
to help them figure out how to essentially put that
work capital into the mix and and help out, you know,
improve their operations or improve the stadium operations. And they
were well fan experience, you know, we don't know. It's
it's something that I think is going to happen relatively
(31:10):
quickly because it's been voted on and passed, and I
think there's been a lot of UH franchises who are
looking for this opportunity to cash out and and and
and you know, have this influx of you know cash
to help either you know, pad their pockets or help
out with the you know, various portions of their organization
that need help. So you know, there's there's still a
lot of questions as to what it's going to look like.
(31:32):
But I think it's going to have an impact in
the sense of hopefully a better fan experience and obviously
an impact on these owners and being able to uh
finally get the cash they feel like they probably deserve
at least at this point time. And look, maybe some
of them ended up kind of going all in and
using some of the cash to spend on you know,
free agents and sot of signing, but different things like
(31:53):
that that will help improve their roster.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
So there's more parody in the NFL. First thing I
thought was, is this toad toe dipping? Are you dipping
your toe in on allowing your franchise to go? Are
you cashing? Are you seeing what this feels like before
you cash all the way out as the NFL, as
(32:18):
as owners, because they got to all be on the
same page with stuff like this, because you you are,
in essence, you're still you're you're exposing what your operation
is to to inequity to to private equity groups. I
started thinking to myself, and it's come up in our prior,
(32:39):
you know, previous previous shows. When does the bubble burst
for the National Football League popularity? When does when do
you hit the ceiling of what what this game is
able to do, what it's able to generate. I mean,
these guys got to have they're certainly forecasting Midell, the owners,
(33:01):
they're forecasting. And that's why there's so many different things
that are taking place. You see so many you know,
pivoting from just having the draft in one place, trying
to make it a more international, nationally uh you know,
consumed game. It's just at some point the the sport
(33:22):
has to hit a ceiling at some point, and what.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
Better way to see, if you know.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
What, before it hits the ceiling, before it gets to
that point of where there's no return and it's not
at its highest value anymore. Because these are still businessmen
we're talking about that owned these these franchises. In most cases,
when when is the time to pull the ripcord. Not
that the the NFL is going to fall off and
(33:49):
not be what it is, but at some point it's
like there's no more growth, there's no more growth, and
are they are they testing out the market to see
what they can do, because you ultimately can establish more
value by bringing in private equity. You can also establish
(34:10):
a new trend. If we give up ten percent. Ten
percent isn't a super significant amount. So if we give
up ten percent and that that feels good, it looks good,
who's to say you don't give up another ten you know,
who's to say, now it's like kind of like all right,
you know, here's where we're going with it. And then
now you put you basically put the NFL on on
(34:34):
auto crews like it's on auto palette, because you're going
to have you're not it's not going to be the
Roonies or the Browns.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
It's not going to be family oriented.
Speaker 8 (34:45):
It's going to be it's going to be a corporate deal,
and it's going.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
To be ran like. It's going to be ran like
a corporate deal.
Speaker 8 (34:53):
It almost could turn into you know, like franchising, as
in franchising, not not franchises that are owned by families,
but these have now turned into franchises like somebody owns
all of them. Who's to say that it doesn't end
up being somebody who owns all of them and franchises
and out to somebody else.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
I don't know what direction it goes in, but I
think that you got to.
Speaker 8 (35:17):
Be at least for me, I'm interested in understanding what
the business model evolves into, because at some point the
level of growth is not going to be there like
it has been for the National Football League.
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Here we go, Posha too old Toney high Football right field,
hit pretty d on the track series at.
Speaker 7 (36:02):
The walk bits.
Speaker 10 (36:08):
Old so Hey Old Connie joins the forty forty club
in the most grand fashions.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
That's the Blowtorch A five to seventy l A Sports
on the Call. Congratulations to show Hey Otani for being
our Express Pros Pro of the Week. Coming up next
here we are going to close up shop on a
Wednesday morning right here on FSR.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
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Soldier board.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
See there you go. The patent go line is gone.
Everyone's dancing. No one's throwing footballs like Petro's talked about
how you would run and just turn around like you
throw the ball up. There's no one they're running. Everyone's dancing.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
By the way, I would lay out in the patent
go line that ball was thrown too far.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
I'd make an effort. It's the only time I got
on the field.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
Interesting.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
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Speaker 2 (37:20):
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Speaker 3 (37:43):
Let's go to the news desk.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Now here's Brady Quinn.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Yeah, alright, uh oh, this is really Two Pros and
a cup.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Of show what you to know?
Speaker 5 (37:59):
What happened?
Speaker 7 (38:01):
Please?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Or what they're out?
Speaker 11 (38:04):
One thing we all know is that we're cluck guys
and that the rundown is Bible. Well, there was a
mistake on the rundown today. There's no PQ news. It's
you in er out? So you guys inner out on
the PAK news?
Speaker 5 (38:15):
Is it at the end of an era?
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Man, it's the end of an hour. Unfortunately, on showing
to keep going so he can not do this segment.
Speaker 8 (38:24):
Apparently, what do I wanted news from the Great State
of Florida.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Well, that's that's good because I do have some Florida
news for you.
Speaker 11 (38:31):
Florida man Palm Beach Shores, David Goalie, seventy five years old,
pulls out a knife after his wife gets wine wine
spilled up.
Speaker 6 (38:38):
What what?
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Pulls out?
Speaker 11 (38:40):
A pulls out a steak knife off the table and
attacks the manager after he poured wine on his uh
on his wife.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
I mean that's reasonable. I don't know what's rate.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Are you doing the news segment right now? Lee? And
what happened? I thought we're doing in or out?
Speaker 5 (38:52):
Are you in or out?
Speaker 7 (38:52):
On?
Speaker 11 (38:53):
Pulling out a steak knife on the manager after he
pours wine on your wife.
Speaker 6 (38:58):
I'm out on answering that.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
I am in.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
I'm out. That seems a little engregious, but you know.
Speaker 5 (39:06):
I'm in Lee. I'm in on that too. What else
we got Lee?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Guys?
Speaker 11 (39:11):
Happy birthdays to Honey Boo boo Jack Black Leeann rhymes
in all.
Speaker 8 (39:15):
Right, Jack Black is performing in state college. That's my nickname,
that's Lee's nickname.
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