October 1, 2024 • 36 mins
Frustration mounts in Miami with the absence of Tua Tagovailoa. Pete Prisco stops by for his weekly visit. Plus, the start of October on Lee’s Leftovers.
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action in the NFL on Monday Night Football, which, by
the way, I think we got two more of these
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to go. Two more double barrel action Monday Night Football
Extravagance is coming up later this season. So clearly this
show started a trend. You wanted double barrel action, you
got it. We've got two more to go. But looking
back on the one last night, Jared Goff was perfect.
Gino Smith may as well have been played really, really well,
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by the way, I think he had the most completions
in a loss in NFL history, So you know that's
how good Ginosmith was last night kind of got buried
behind Jared Goff's performance. Will Levis got hurt. Mason Rudolph
came in. We're going to talk to Pete Prisco about
all that. But we were talking earlier in the show
about the situation in Miami at order back. There seem
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to be some players that were very frustrated, most notably
Tyreek Hill over the equality of the offense last night
as they looked terrible against the Tennessee Titans, and Mike
McDaniel the head coach, Levar's guy.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
He spoke to the media afterwards.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
I don't foresee this locker room quitting. I don't see
it as their nature. However, you have to give guys
reasons to go above them and beyond. I think you
have to hold literally every person in the building accountable
to what we see their jobs as and their purpose
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and what they're doing for the team, what they're not
doing for the team. It's hard conversations that are very,
very necessary.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I would Tyler Homi's performance.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
I thought he did some good things. There's some stuff
that as a competitor he wanted.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
To have back.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Had a couple ops and you know, you know, there's
a throw down the sidelines to Tyreek, and you know
there's this a.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Couple, a couple opposity that.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
But overall, I thought he did a good job. But
I didn't think that his teammates around him at times
were doing what we needed them to do in a
game like that. I thought he had a lot of
us played, and you know, I thought he competitor, or
he was a competitor all the way through.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
So teammates weren't doing enough to help out Tyler Huntley
and tyreek Hill was seen yelling on the sidelines, very frustrated.
Mike McDaniel looked like he was pissed off. And I
do wonder at that point, if you're one of the
guys who's teaming up with Tyler Huntley and realized he
just got there not that long ago, isn't it on
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you to try and make the transition as seamless as
possible for him, Knowing how difficult the situation was. Tyreek
Hill yelling and screaming on the sideline doesn't seem like
it's going to help anybody. Seems like a problem. You
want to you have to.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, so you have to understand, you know, wide receivers, obviously,
it's it's an incredibly frustrating job for them because they
could be doing everything they're supposed to be doing, but
the reliant on other people to ultimately be able to
reap the rewards of their job. So whether it's the
offensive line running back and pick up someone else, could
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be it could be another wide receiver who's running their
route within a concept that's supposed to clear something out
for them or occupy a defender. So the tough thing
is they could be doing everything in their power every
single play, giving one hundred percent, you know, and that
becomes exhausting when you're not winning as well. It's one
thing when this stuff, the sort of thing happens and
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you're still winning. It's another thing then when you're not
winning and you're not reaping that reward from your individual
performance or efforts you at the quarterback on top of that,
when he's not getting you the football when you think
he should be, it could become a frustrating deal. And
that's why a lot of those guys, you know, they're
more emotional players anyway, you know, I think Petros has
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done an amazing job of defining how when you don't
play in the trenches, it's a little easier to you know,
kind of yap and talk trash and have that sort
of emotion and all that. And that's typically how things
are played on the outside. And that's typically how things
are done with the wide receiver and quarterback or wide
receiver to a quarterback, because oftentimes you don't find wide
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receivers who are truly understanding of what that job entails.
In this case, I think, you know, it's hard for
Tyler Huntley to pick up an offense in you know,
a couple of weeks time that, as I try to
explain to people, it's like speaking a different language. So
imagine having to go out and do your job tomorrow
speaking Spanish, speaking French, speaking Italian, speaking Chinese.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Imagine having to do your job an elite level, world
class level, speaking a different language. That's what a different
offense is. And honestly, sometimes the toughest part is where
there is some carryover as far as terminology. You know,
let's say you've got a concept that's, you know, called
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Maverick or something like that, and it was Maverick was
something else in your old offense, and now it's something
new in this offense. That's the hardest thing to transition
from because you've been so ingrained in whatever that old
offense was that you've now got to memorize it to
what it is now and do that in under two
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and a half seconds, because that's how much time you
have at the snap of the football to be able
to make the right decision, a good decision. So it's
an incredibly difficult task for any quarterback who's coming in,
especially off the street, who hasn't been there for the
spring summer training camp now into the season to learn
that system and do it.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I always tell people it takes three years.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
The first year, when you're in a system, you were
just learning that offense like the back of your hand.
You're trying to develop chemistry with the guys you're throwing to.
That's really your one, your two. You're then learning how
you're going to be able to apply it to defenses
that you see not only in your preparation leading up
to that game, but also adjustments within game, and then
how you've mastered that offense to use it against all
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these different defenses. Then the third year, you're hopefully out
there just playing without thinking about any of it. The
hard part is you very rarely can be in a
system for three years because if your coordinator is bad,
he's getting fired. If he's really good, he's getting a
head coaching job. You know, you have players that move
in and out of the system, so you're kind of
teaching them the system the following year. So that's the
hard part is it's very seldom that you get that
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sort of consistency around you and within a system. But
I will say this, when you're in that situation like
Tyler Huntley.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
If there's one guy you're going to look to.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
One guy, you're going to lean on one guy, you're
going to force the football too. It's Tyreek Hill. And
I think the difficult So the difficult part for Tyreek
Hill is he's probably on him saying that. The harder
part about that is unless he's got separation, unless he's
in a position where you know he's got that one
on one, it becomes a risky proposition. You're throwing to
a guy that you don't have any chemistry with.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
You can't. You haven't enough time to.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Be there to understand how he moves, how he runs
in and out of cuts. And I can promise you
someone as fast as Tyreek Hill is so difficult because
he's such an outlier.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
He's different than every other guy you throw to.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
When you have a guy with that sort of elite speed,
he will times change your drop. It's like you always
hear about glance eights or a bang eight is what
you call him, and it's typically you know, three steps
or five steps. If it's undergun, you hit that fifth
foot and you're banging it. You're throwing that thing on
a line. It's gonna land somewhere eighteen to twenty two
yards downfield, and that's the timing of that play.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
How you're gonna throw it. The problem is, when you've
got a fast guy like Tyreek Hill, you.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Gotta chop that thing down even more. It might not
even be a three step drop in gun because he's
so fast. It might be kind of more of a
one and gathered than.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
You're ripping it.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And that's the hard thing is all that timing, all
the rhythm you play within NFL systems, it's learned. It
takes reps, it takes time and experience. Tyler Hunty, doesn't
you know, I can't afford that opportunity right now with
everything going on.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
Problem with that is that they brought him in to
be that fill in. And again I'll go back to
our one. I think the weight of this doesn't fall
at the feet of the players. I think the weight
of it falls at the feet of the coaching staff.
And the reason being is is that you have to
be aware of the fact that you know that Tua
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is one hit away from not being in the game.
I would think that the most important position on the
Miami Dolphins team, outside of it obviously being Tua would
be the backup quarterback and what he represents to this
team because he has to be in a ready to
go mode every single down, every single practice, every single game.
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And for the Miami Dolphins to be in a situation
where they had to pull somebody out, you know, off
of off of the you know, off of the street
to come in and be that guy. I know that
the second string guy went down as well, and it's
extraordinary circumstances to have to deal with. But I still
think that this ultimately comes down to if you find
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yourself in a position, if my contingency plan if toa
were to go down, and then for some reason, I
have to bring somebody off of off of you know,
being an unrestricted free agent, a free agent to be
in my you know, be in my building and run
this team. I got to have a playbook that's ready
for a guy that hasn't been here long enough. I
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have to have something prepared where our team can handle
to a going down. That's something that I believe has
to be a contingency plan, and even moving forward now,
if it wasn't evident, you know, hitting it and the season,
it has to be evident now that you have to
have a contingency plan for Tua going down if you're
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riding and dying with Tua knowing what his his health
situation is. And be clear, if this were to happen again,
you probably I mean, I'm assuming you probably have to
move on all together, right, I mean, let's just be
real here, you probably have to move on all together.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
So what is your contingency plan?
Speaker 6 (11:30):
And that language that that you're speaking of that they
got to learn, and this, that and the other. It's
got to be in duplicate. It's got to being triplicate.
It has to be. And as you mentioned earlier, Jonas,
I think that it would have been prudent. It would
have been wise to bring in a guy that at
least a veteran of understanding and of experience that has played.
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Ryan Tannehill would have been a perfect backup. Whether that
created confusion or maybe you know, in the in the
locker room, you know, people might be looking at Ryan like, oh,
maybe he should be the starter over to it. Maybe
that maybe it creates a quarterback controversy. I don't know,
But as a coach you got to manage that because
you have to have a quarterback that can keep your
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team going in the right direction if to what goes
down that I think that's the harsh reality to I
can't be sensitive or or upset if you bring in
a guy that has started in this league, has had
success in this league and he's your backup, because the
chances of you going down seem to be fairly high.
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What about Jimmy Garoppolo? What about Jimmy Garoppolo back up
with the Rams.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I think he's over his two game suspension that you
know he took because he pissed hot, you know, got
on the gas a little bit.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Now, is that what it was? Something like that? That
is all you think he did? Warm potty and we
don't think it was.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Maybe like a little you know, extra man or something,
a little great Sunday.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Something passion or the sand in sharp passion. Oh jeez,
I don't know. I don't know what his IG's live
status is. But uh, Jimmy Garoppolo's out there. He's backing
up if they feel like they can. You know, they
want to try and develop Stetson Bennett, who you know
didn't have the most ideal preseason. You know, maybe Jimmy
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Garoppolo could be an option for him. It just feels
like a few out there like they they just need
to tread water until Tua comes back. But treading water
would have meant you could have you know, you were
favored to beat the titles.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
What if he goes down again, you tread it water
he gets back. What if he goes down again? Yeah,
then you know you know what I mean, like whatnot
we just drown? You know, let's drown. Yeah, let's drown it.
So then now you're back to the brown floor as days. Right,
just go ahead and tank it. Huh, tank it so
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we can spank it. Go get it, go get a
good one in the draft.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah, it feels like, uh, they're they're in a tough spot.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
And the bad's bad position to be in man because
you gotta you have to prepare. Is though Tua will
eventually not be available. And how like in sport, you
have to know that it's the next guy. What we
always joke around riverside, right, you got to know at
some point that maybe somebody that's really important to your
team is going to go down due to injury. But
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but this is different, like the expectation or the understanding
the anticipation it's much. It's got to be different here
than any than any other situation.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
It's a very unique situation. And in this unique situation,
you have.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
Got to be aware of the fact that Tua could
go down at any given moment and it might not
even be that big of a hit. It might not
even be that violin of a play. It's just that
he is prone to getting concussed. And that is the
reality of it. Can't you can't skate around it. Can't
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skate around it. No way of side stepping it, shaking it,
brushing it under the carpet. You can't do it. It's hair.
It's a reality, and you have to move accordingly. That's
what I would.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Say, Dolphins Patriots this weekend. That might be the the
under folks, the under. You know, back in the day,
there used to be one game that was always in
Standard Deaf. Everything else was in HD, but for some
reason one was in SD, Like that would be the
Standard Deaf game of the week. And it is not
a great slate of games, as we laid out yesterday.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
So here's the hard thing, too, is when you have
a double barrel action like last night, Yeah, and you've
just got you know, double digit wins. I guess you
could say the Lions Seahawks was it.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Was entertaining at one point.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
At one point, yeah, they got within a touchdown and
then obviously GoF hit. It was a Jamison Williams for
a long touchdown, So that's kind of that.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Was like fifteen points.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
My point is, I feel like, and we talked about
this before, like the excitement around the league has been
well documented.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I'm I'm sure if you guys know this.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
The first four weeks they've been more mistackles since they've
been tracking the stat since twenty seventeen than ever.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
There's been an ungodly amount of mistackles.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
In fact, if you extrapolate it out for the entirety
of a season, they will average over eighteen miss tackles
per game. That's the rate that they're on right now.
It's just it's bad, dude, It's bad football. And this
is a league that you know, I think they just
sit there and look at the fan base. Oh, they'll they'll,
they'll watch, they'll they'll continue to keep. No, man, it's
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not an entertaining product. It's not great to watch. You're
getting bad matchups, so no one's gonna watch. The rating
is gonna be down. These TV networks are gonna be
upset about this. And the problem is, like all people
care about his money. They don't care about saying maybe
we need to invest back some of this money into
the product. Like maybe the NFL, maybe Roger Goodell needs
to realize that these off seasons that the union keeps
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fighting for, and even the union for that matter, they
need to realize they're making a crappier product. It's hurting
their players. There's not as much growth, there's not as
much development. All these things are leading to I think
guys having shorter careers. If you look at the average
lifespan of an NFL player, it's under three years. The
one thing they've done to help prop that up has
allow veterans to be on practice squads where the practice
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squad eligibility rules are different now.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
But even then, no one's being developed anymore.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
It's become tough to watch, and the NFL and the NFLPA,
the powers that be, like they need to start looking
at this more intently to figure out how can we
actually make this more of a full year job where
we're allowing these guys to develop.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
So we've got a better product. So, by the way,
so guys aren't getting injured, that's part of why.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
The reason why guys get injured their bodies out of position,
They're not in the right place where they should be.
There's a mental area of mistake. All this stuff needs
to be looked at.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
And I don't know you.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Guys feel, but like this is part of our job
is watching this, coming back, analyzing and talking about it.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
It's been crap. It has not been fun to watch again.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
And I know people go, oh, you know college football,
college football, you kind of expect it to some degree
at that level because they're younger, and then there's restrictions
around how much they can practice and play all that
because they're a student as well and everything else.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
You don't have any league, no, and so there's no
excuses for it. Then you only got thirty two teams.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
You don't have one hundred and thirty plus teams like
you do at the FBS level.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
That's the hard part about it.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
So I said I misspoke earlier. It was actually the
Seahawks had gained thirty eight first downs in the game
last night. That's the most in NFL history and a
loss combine the Titans and Dolphins at twenty nine, So
you know, just two different games, two different worlds last
night from what we got to see one one over
to the other. So yeah, it's there's been some bad games. Look,
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even the Chiefs like, look, Patrick Mahomes is the best
in the league right now. Everybody knows that and acknowledges that,
Like that doesn't look all that hot. Like there's just
there's a lot of a lot of teams out there
that you watch and you go, what the hell is this?
Like penalties and everything else that goes along with it.
So it's been ugly. But October's here, so maybe they
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just needed to get out of this little preseason stretch
and now we've got a good football right around the corner.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
I would assume that the football is going to improve dramatically.
Well can't get worse, which could oh good, But I
would assume it's going to improve because now we're out
of preseason.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
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Speaker 3 (20:16):
I forgot about that. That's right, that's right. How are
we feeling?
Speaker 7 (20:21):
I'm good, guys? How are you? I mean you know that?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah, of course you love this. You're a smooth operator.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
Yeah of course. Well I used to be.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Hey, come on, every one saw you guys going to
date night. I've seen it before. There's still a lot
of smooth operating in there.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Yeah, we do, we do, Pete, what do you think
of the smooth operating of Mason Rudolph last night?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I came in a relief for your guy, Will Levis.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
I mean they all stink. I mean the quarterback, the quarterbacks.
The quarterback play in this league is atrocious right now
in a lot of places. I mean it really is.
And they didn't even try and pass. They go, here, Mason,
you're in now, Well we're just going to turn and
run the ball. And you know what, Miami didn't stop it.
So they kept doing it and doing it.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
And doing it.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
And you know, on the other side, I mean, you
feel sorry for Ronley. I mean, he goes in there,
he barely knows the plays and they couldn't do anything.
So it's that was bad. Levis getting hurt, not good.
Levis throwing a band interception not good. But the quarterback
play around this league, in large part because bad off
as the line play as part of the reason, is awful.
Right now, you got.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yeah, And I'm just going to ask you.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
You know, we get on you about Will Levis and
all that kind of stuff, but at what point do
you kind of start being alarmed obviously injury last night,
but just in general, if he doesn't start taking those
strides that you know, you and maybe some others have
kind of proclaimed he's going to take this year.
Speaker 7 (21:44):
Yeah, well, I mean, if he keeps some own interceptions
like that Brady, he's going to go sit on the bench.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
But you see one of those guys who just throws
bad picks.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I mean, there's guys who just they do that at times,
they throw bad interceptions.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Yeah, that one was like all the one like the
one he threw for the pick six last week. Defended
that and Kurt Warner did a great breakdown of it.
But there's no defense to the one last You got
to see that guy. How do you not see him?
I mean that that to me is concerning, and I
wanted to see how he would respond to it. I
do think if he had responded well to it, fine,
If he didn't respond to it, I think they're going
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to yank maybe yank him out of there anyway. So
the fact he got hurt, and look, he made a
great play to try and get the first down, probably
did get the first down. They should have challenged that.
But you got to be, you know, less reckless with
your body too. So look, there's a lot of things
that play there. If he doesn't pick it up, he's
going to be a failure. I mean, and then you
look at that quarterback class and you go Bryce Young
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right now, failure, Will Levis failure, Anthony Richardson under fifty
percent complete your percentage, you know, debates still out there.
And then you got DJ Stroud the only guy that's
playing worth a dam. So that's kind of the way
the quarterback position goes these days.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
I like your your commentary there and listen, it's kind
of in a way, Pete.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
It's the teams as well.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
There are a lot of teams that you would have
we would have looked at and said, preseason wise, we
wouldn't think that they'd be struggling the way that they are.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
You know, what do you attribute that to?
Speaker 6 (23:08):
I mean, I feel like they're coming out of preseason
right now, if you ask me, I feel like practices
are different, the approach is different, the you know, the
focus in on health is much higher, the understanding of
the you know, the needs of the players is higher.
What I mean, do you look at this and you say,
you know, maybe we're going to see better football now? Like,
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what's your take on just the state of play altogether
right now? In the NFL?
Speaker 7 (23:34):
State of play is terrible. I mean, I'll be the
first one to say it, and I've been around this
game for a long time, and you make good points there. Look,
here's a couple of things that you don't hit during camp.
So once you go to to the regular season, you're
hitting for the first time. Offensive lines don't work together.
They can't hit, they can't simulate, you know, coming off
the double and the speed of the linebacker, because they
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don't do that in training camp, so you don't get
to that until you're in the regular season. All the
teams that twist and stunt the oppositive line can't handle
it because they don't see it, they don't rep it.
And I think that's where quarterbacks are getting blasted, and
therefore the quarterback play is bad. And so you're sped
up up front, but everybody's playing a lot of off covers,
so you're slowed down on the back end, and the
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combination of the two makes for bad quarterback play. The
other thing is it's a survival test. We're in week four.
Look around in the league and see who's not playing.
And I always say, this is my theory on it.
I think guys over training. Now you come out of it,
and you know that's just me and Brady have talked
about this in the past. But you train, you come out,
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you take maybe two three weeks off, and boom, you're
right back to training with high intensity trainers around the country.
Your guys. Then you go do all your stuff with
the team, and then you maybe take the week and
a half off and most guys don't do the top
doing anything in that week and a half off before
the season starts and they get right back into training camp.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
So what were they doing in the old days? Well,
what were they doing in the old days? Now?
Speaker 7 (24:59):
In the old days, they up playing in December and
they had one mini camp where everybody came back slovenly
and smoking cigarettes and drinking booze, and then they showed
up in training camp and got themselves in shape. And
you have left to that.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Yeah, you need you need a carton of Marlboroughs and
that's all you gotta have happened.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Back the cigarette smoking, Come on, Pete, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
That was ridiculous. I mean, look, no, not cigarettes. But
but you know, guys today are so they spend so
much money to take care of their body, and sometimes
I think they overtrain it. I mean, look at look
look at Christian McCaffrey. He's got achilles ten and ice
in both you know ankles, I mean both legs. That's ridiculous.
I mean he's overtraining. I think there's too much training going.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
On that or maybe something's going off the off the field,
you know, Wow, yeah, he.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Just got busy opera.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
He might be one of the smoothest, right that, or.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Is a herky jerky Maybe that's what if.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Pete,
I wanted to ask you just to explain a couple
of things because I was on your Twitter account, your
x account at Prisco CBS, and I just I'm gonna
read off three tweets and I would like for you
to explain just what these are in reference to. All Right,
so this is all from Sunday. All right, So.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Tweet one, can you get any dumber? Play?
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Tweet two, That, folks, is what you call overthinking it
play football? Tweet three, how to turn a momentum faucet off?
Speaker 3 (26:35):
One oh one? What was that in reference to?
Speaker 7 (26:38):
That's in reference to the bill stupid trick play that
they try to run and you're going down. It's twenty
one to ten and you got momentum and you're driving
and you try stupid trick play? What the hell was that?
The guy gets planted, they fumble, and the whole momentum
has gone, the game is over. I just and at
(26:59):
least look to give Joe Brady credit because he came
right out afterwards he said that was a stupid decision
on my part, and it really was. And when I
see that, you know, I just, what are these guys thinking?
You have the momentum. It's not like you're trying to
get it back. You're going you're moving in to make
it a one score game. Why do you do that?
So everybody sits around on Monday and says, oh my gosh,
(27:20):
look how creative he is. Go play football. It was
ridiculous with a dumb call, mighty calls.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
In the game.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Let me ask you this one I threw out to
the guys earlier. Do you think maybe the Rams are
looking at Jared Goff and how he's playing right now
and are like, you know, maybe we would have won
a super Bowl if we just want to stuck with
Jared Goff.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
Yeah, He's No. I don't think they're thinking that because
they knew what they had Jared ivan looking. I give
Ben Johnson and that group a lot of credit for
making it really easy on him. And Sean mcvay' is
a great play caller too. But at the time of
his life, I think they needed to make the move
to go get Stafford, and had they not won it,
I think they really be sitting there saying, maybe we
did make the wrong decision. But I mean, look, Stafford
(28:02):
is doing damn good quarterback and they moved the football
with nobody. I mean that that's the tribute to Sean
McVay and nobody.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
They didn't. They didn't look very good. They made the
Bears defense like almost like the eighty five Bears. His
past week, I yeah, bounce over Bartenders, Yeah I did.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
What about the week before? What about the week before?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
When when I'm just saying, he's not moving the same
the arm, it just doesn't look the same, man, That's
all I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
And Jared gobb there's our headline, there's our Brady headline
that Stafford washed up.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
By the way, he used to do this when we
worked together.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
He would take anything I said and then he just
would make it into the most like headline ever.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
And like.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
You said that, yeah, I did go viral, go viral,
but he's washed.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I'm not. I'm not trying to get a virus or
go viral. And Peter, I'll save that for you, Pal
Tang lost.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
Us. What right, LaVar, That's what it sounded like to Pete.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Pete, how about this talk about golf, because what he
did last night was historic. We don't see that very often. Man,
it was pretty ridiculous how he played, you know, it was, Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
It was outstanding. I mean, look it was. It was
well done. He stood in there, made the throws and
and look that Seattle defense is a shell of itself
with all the injuries. But you got to give credit.
Not one hit the ground. That's amazing to think about that.
You could have one tips at the line of scrimmage normally.
So yeah, I give him all the credit. But he's
a good player. I always thought he was a better
player than he got credit for. And you're right. He
(29:36):
fits with what they want to do with Detroit. He's
having He's also a good start. He's having a good
career with the Lions, and he resurrected it.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
At Prisco CBS is where you can find him just
airing out decision making in the NFL on on fire basis.
Pete Prisco's CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ analyst. He's our
smooth operator every Tuesday here on the show.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Well you do what.
Speaker 7 (30:01):
Buy, idiot, that's what the coaches and general managers are
in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Dah, that's a headline. Bang bang, there is the great cool.
Let's go with us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Coming up next here, we are going to close up
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Speaker 2 (30:25):
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Speaker 4 (30:52):
We've got four playoff games in Major League Baseball coming
up later on, all sorts of stuff to discuss, NFL,
college football.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
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Speaker 2 (31:22):
These might smell a little fun game that sounds incredible,
but they're still good.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Time to find out what's left?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
It's Lee's laugh over all.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Right, d'lat what do we got? All right?
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Guys?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Happy October first?
Speaker 8 (31:37):
Nothing says October first, much like the start of Major
League Baseball Wildcard you know that starts today? We got
are you guys gonna be watching the wild Card games?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Of course we got to fourteen? Did you guys watch
the games yesterday?
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Oh that that first game ends? The first game was wild, man,
but they ended up ultimately both getting out.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
It's a good watch. Bar No, it's not Fox, Come
on man, Fox Fox.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (32:07):
Yeah, we've got Astros at Tigers, Royals visiting the Orioles
Brewers hosting.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
The Mets or Pirates.
Speaker 7 (32:16):
I know.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
No, it's also uh, these games, so the we've got
way in a while it's the Pirates. Yeah, I'm a
way till next year. These are all that's another year,
another track. These are all Disney showcases.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
By the way, you know these are all uh coming
up today, ABC, ESPN two. So not Fox, No, you
would say, but sure, sure glad the you're glad the
Cubs are a part of it again?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
What sports radio? Fox? Sports radio? How do you say cut?
You mean Fox? Pretty good? Dumped?
Speaker 6 (33:02):
What else?
Speaker 7 (33:02):
We go?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Well?
Speaker 8 (33:03):
With it being October one, h when do you guys
start thinking about putting up decorations for Halloween?
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Well? Maybe start last night. So oh I observed them
being put up, but I don't ever think about them.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Oh, fall decorations, as you seem like the fall decorations
type of first Oh yeah, but we'll be like my
wife goes all out and it's been that way for
three four weeks.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
What's all out?
Speaker 4 (33:29):
That autumn leaves a pumpkin everywhere you step, like everything
is thankful.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Everything, it's like a thankful She skips right over Halloween
to Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Oh, it doesn't even like Fall is fall, and even
when it's not right, and then once that's over, then
Christmas is here, and then I think Okay.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Find the funny thing.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
About you people out here is that those leaves that
you're talking about that you want to round your house,
and my ass and my brothers along with many others
had to rake those bad boys up and put them
in bags. So while you're sitting there having fun, Oh,
look at the different colored leaves. Oh, that would be
(34:13):
fun to put them around the house. Yeah, some of
us was getting buried in them joints trying to rake
them up and put them in bags.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
I'll say this, it was nice being in State college
because you could see the beginning of fall, saw it,
and then we come out to La and it's ninety
five degree damn, just miserable.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
We don't have a heat waved to day.
Speaker 8 (34:30):
Ye, my palm trees shedding into my pool and that's
that's that's a bummer. That's fall fall weather right there.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Dust.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
So you saw Impact game list. Yeah, you lead off
this segment with like an alcohol recommendation like this, what
are you tying, Adams? Well, that's a good time.
Speaker 8 (34:48):
Yeah, it's a good time to find your spice rum
and put it into your uh, your pumpkin spices.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
What you know.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I'm glad, Yes, rady. Yeah, there you go. I mean
that was coming.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
I got pumpkin pumpkin spice and the refrigerator and in
the back. That's why I was drinking this morning. You
know it's my favorite you brought. It's only seasonal. Yeah,
but I'm taking it with me. I'm not leaving it here.
You know, it'd be some heathen work going on around here. Man,
I don't trust it. Yeah, I'm gonna take it right
with me.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Smart move smart.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (35:17):
Well, I was on the way to the uh to
the story yesterday and I said, hey to my good
old friend that I yel el's there.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
Now.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
What did you say to him when you saw him?
I don't know, is that you? Hey, buddy? Now what
I buy?
Speaker 8 (35:36):
They did put a tarp up on the fence, so
I had to kind of like peek in and make
sure he was there.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
What you right there?
Speaker 8 (35:43):
He scared me because it was it was it was
dark out. He's got an imprint, so he looked like
a skeleton.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
What a some like alpaca?
Speaker 6 (35:50):
Yer?
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Yeah? Leave him alone? He hi, Yeah he did. He
perked up. I think I woke him up. Start spitting
in your face.
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the way, I think we got two more of these
(01:17):
to go. Two more double barrel action Monday Night Football
Extravagance is coming up later this season. So clearly this
show started a trend. You wanted double barrel action, you
got it. We've got two more to go. But looking
back on the one last night, Jared Goff was perfect.
Gino Smith may as well have been played really, really well,
(01:39):
by the way, I think he had the most completions
in a loss in NFL history, So you know that's
how good Ginosmith was last night kind of got buried
behind Jared Goff's performance. Will Levis got hurt. Mason Rudolph
came in. We're going to talk to Pete Prisco about
all that. But we were talking earlier in the show
about the situation in Miami at order back. There seem
(02:01):
to be some players that were very frustrated, most notably
Tyreek Hill over the equality of the offense last night
as they looked terrible against the Tennessee Titans, and Mike
McDaniel the head coach, Levar's guy.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
He spoke to the media afterwards.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
I don't foresee this locker room quitting. I don't see
it as their nature. However, you have to give guys
reasons to go above them and beyond. I think you
have to hold literally every person in the building accountable
to what we see their jobs as and their purpose
(02:42):
and what they're doing for the team, what they're not
doing for the team. It's hard conversations that are very,
very necessary.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I would Tyler Homi's performance.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
I thought he did some good things. There's some stuff
that as a competitor he wanted.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
To have back.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Had a couple ops and you know, you know, there's
a throw down the sidelines to Tyreek, and you know
there's this a.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Couple, a couple opposity that.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
But overall, I thought he did a good job. But
I didn't think that his teammates around him at times
were doing what we needed them to do in a
game like that. I thought he had a lot of
us played, and you know, I thought he competitor, or
he was a competitor all the way through.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
So teammates weren't doing enough to help out Tyler Huntley
and tyreek Hill was seen yelling on the sidelines, very frustrated.
Mike McDaniel looked like he was pissed off. And I
do wonder at that point, if you're one of the
guys who's teaming up with Tyler Huntley and realized he
just got there not that long ago, isn't it on
(03:53):
you to try and make the transition as seamless as
possible for him, Knowing how difficult the situation was. Tyreek
Hill yelling and screaming on the sideline doesn't seem like
it's going to help anybody. Seems like a problem. You
want to you have to.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, so you have to understand, you know, wide receivers, obviously,
it's it's an incredibly frustrating job for them because they
could be doing everything they're supposed to be doing, but
the reliant on other people to ultimately be able to
reap the rewards of their job. So whether it's the
offensive line running back and pick up someone else, could
(04:28):
be it could be another wide receiver who's running their
route within a concept that's supposed to clear something out
for them or occupy a defender. So the tough thing
is they could be doing everything in their power every
single play, giving one hundred percent, you know, and that
becomes exhausting when you're not winning as well. It's one
thing when this stuff, the sort of thing happens and
(04:50):
you're still winning. It's another thing then when you're not
winning and you're not reaping that reward from your individual
performance or efforts you at the quarterback on top of that,
when he's not getting you the football when you think
he should be, it could become a frustrating deal. And
that's why a lot of those guys, you know, they're
more emotional players anyway, you know, I think Petros has
(05:12):
done an amazing job of defining how when you don't
play in the trenches, it's a little easier to you know,
kind of yap and talk trash and have that sort
of emotion and all that. And that's typically how things
are played on the outside. And that's typically how things
are done with the wide receiver and quarterback or wide
receiver to a quarterback, because oftentimes you don't find wide
(05:34):
receivers who are truly understanding of what that job entails.
In this case, I think, you know, it's hard for
Tyler Huntley to pick up an offense in you know,
a couple of weeks time that, as I try to
explain to people, it's like speaking a different language. So
imagine having to go out and do your job tomorrow
speaking Spanish, speaking French, speaking Italian, speaking Chinese.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Imagine having to do your job an elite level, world
class level, speaking a different language. That's what a different
offense is. And honestly, sometimes the toughest part is where
there is some carryover as far as terminology. You know,
let's say you've got a concept that's, you know, called
(06:17):
Maverick or something like that, and it was Maverick was
something else in your old offense, and now it's something
new in this offense. That's the hardest thing to transition
from because you've been so ingrained in whatever that old
offense was that you've now got to memorize it to
what it is now and do that in under two
(06:37):
and a half seconds, because that's how much time you
have at the snap of the football to be able
to make the right decision, a good decision. So it's
an incredibly difficult task for any quarterback who's coming in,
especially off the street, who hasn't been there for the
spring summer training camp now into the season to learn
that system and do it.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I always tell people it takes three years.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
The first year, when you're in a system, you were
just learning that offense like the back of your hand.
You're trying to develop chemistry with the guys you're throwing to.
That's really your one, your two. You're then learning how
you're going to be able to apply it to defenses
that you see not only in your preparation leading up
to that game, but also adjustments within game, and then
how you've mastered that offense to use it against all
(07:18):
these different defenses. Then the third year, you're hopefully out
there just playing without thinking about any of it. The
hard part is you very rarely can be in a
system for three years because if your coordinator is bad,
he's getting fired. If he's really good, he's getting a
head coaching job. You know, you have players that move
in and out of the system, so you're kind of
teaching them the system the following year. So that's the
hard part is it's very seldom that you get that
(07:39):
sort of consistency around you and within a system. But
I will say this, when you're in that situation like
Tyler Huntley.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
If there's one guy you're going to look to.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
One guy, you're going to lean on one guy, you're
going to force the football too. It's Tyreek Hill. And
I think the difficult So the difficult part for Tyreek
Hill is he's probably on him saying that. The harder
part about that is unless he's got separation, unless he's
in a position where you know he's got that one
on one, it becomes a risky proposition. You're throwing to
a guy that you don't have any chemistry with.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
You can't. You haven't enough time to.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Be there to understand how he moves, how he runs
in and out of cuts. And I can promise you
someone as fast as Tyreek Hill is so difficult because
he's such an outlier.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
He's different than every other guy you throw to.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
When you have a guy with that sort of elite speed,
he will times change your drop. It's like you always
hear about glance eights or a bang eight is what
you call him, and it's typically you know, three steps
or five steps. If it's undergun, you hit that fifth
foot and you're banging it. You're throwing that thing on
a line. It's gonna land somewhere eighteen to twenty two
yards downfield, and that's the timing of that play.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
How you're gonna throw it. The problem is, when you've
got a fast guy like Tyreek Hill, you.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Gotta chop that thing down even more. It might not
even be a three step drop in gun because he's
so fast. It might be kind of more of a
one and gathered than.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
You're ripping it.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And that's the hard thing is all that timing, all
the rhythm you play within NFL systems, it's learned. It
takes reps, it takes time and experience. Tyler Hunty, doesn't
you know, I can't afford that opportunity right now with
everything going on.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
Problem with that is that they brought him in to
be that fill in. And again I'll go back to
our one. I think the weight of this doesn't fall
at the feet of the players. I think the weight
of it falls at the feet of the coaching staff.
And the reason being is is that you have to
be aware of the fact that you know that Tua
(09:37):
is one hit away from not being in the game.
I would think that the most important position on the
Miami Dolphins team, outside of it obviously being Tua would
be the backup quarterback and what he represents to this
team because he has to be in a ready to
go mode every single down, every single practice, every single game.
(10:02):
And for the Miami Dolphins to be in a situation
where they had to pull somebody out, you know, off
of off of the you know, off of the street
to come in and be that guy. I know that
the second string guy went down as well, and it's
extraordinary circumstances to have to deal with. But I still
think that this ultimately comes down to if you find
(10:23):
yourself in a position, if my contingency plan if toa
were to go down, and then for some reason, I
have to bring somebody off of off of you know,
being an unrestricted free agent, a free agent to be
in my you know, be in my building and run
this team. I got to have a playbook that's ready
for a guy that hasn't been here long enough. I
(10:45):
have to have something prepared where our team can handle
to a going down. That's something that I believe has
to be a contingency plan, and even moving forward now,
if it wasn't evident, you know, hitting it and the season,
it has to be evident now that you have to
have a contingency plan for Tua going down if you're
(11:07):
riding and dying with Tua knowing what his his health
situation is. And be clear, if this were to happen again,
you probably I mean, I'm assuming you probably have to
move on all together, right, I mean, let's just be
real here, you probably have to move on all together.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
So what is your contingency plan?
Speaker 6 (11:30):
And that language that that you're speaking of that they
got to learn, and this, that and the other. It's
got to be in duplicate. It's got to being triplicate.
It has to be. And as you mentioned earlier, Jonas,
I think that it would have been prudent. It would
have been wise to bring in a guy that at
least a veteran of understanding and of experience that has played.
(11:51):
Ryan Tannehill would have been a perfect backup. Whether that
created confusion or maybe you know, in the in the
locker room, you know, people might be looking at Ryan like, oh,
maybe he should be the starter over to it. Maybe
that maybe it creates a quarterback controversy. I don't know,
But as a coach you got to manage that because
you have to have a quarterback that can keep your
(12:13):
team going in the right direction if to what goes
down that I think that's the harsh reality to I
can't be sensitive or or upset if you bring in
a guy that has started in this league, has had
success in this league and he's your backup, because the
chances of you going down seem to be fairly high.
(12:34):
What about Jimmy Garoppolo? What about Jimmy Garoppolo back up
with the Rams.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
I think he's over his two game suspension that you
know he took because he pissed hot, you know, got
on the gas a little bit.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Now, is that what it was? Something like that? That
is all you think he did? Warm potty and we
don't think it was.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Maybe like a little you know, extra man or something,
a little great Sunday.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Something passion or the sand in sharp passion. Oh jeez,
I don't know. I don't know what his IG's live
status is. But uh, Jimmy Garoppolo's out there. He's backing
up if they feel like they can. You know, they
want to try and develop Stetson Bennett, who you know
didn't have the most ideal preseason. You know, maybe Jimmy
(13:18):
Garoppolo could be an option for him. It just feels
like a few out there like they they just need
to tread water until Tua comes back. But treading water
would have meant you could have you know, you were
favored to beat the titles.
Speaker 6 (13:34):
What if he goes down again, you tread it water
he gets back. What if he goes down again? Yeah,
then you know you know what I mean, like whatnot
we just drown? You know, let's drown. Yeah, let's drown it.
So then now you're back to the brown floor as days. Right,
just go ahead and tank it. Huh, tank it so
(13:54):
we can spank it. Go get it, go get a
good one in the draft.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Yeah, it feels like, uh, they're they're in a tough spot.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
And the bad's bad position to be in man because
you gotta you have to prepare. Is though Tua will
eventually not be available. And how like in sport, you
have to know that it's the next guy. What we
always joke around riverside, right, you got to know at
some point that maybe somebody that's really important to your
team is going to go down due to injury. But
(14:25):
but this is different, like the expectation or the understanding
the anticipation it's much. It's got to be different here
than any than any other situation.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
It's a very unique situation. And in this unique situation,
you have.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
Got to be aware of the fact that Tua could
go down at any given moment and it might not
even be that big of a hit. It might not
even be that violin of a play. It's just that
he is prone to getting concussed. And that is the
reality of it. Can't you can't skate around it. Can't
(15:03):
skate around it. No way of side stepping it, shaking it,
brushing it under the carpet. You can't do it. It's hair.
It's a reality, and you have to move accordingly. That's
what I would.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Say, Dolphins Patriots this weekend. That might be the the
under folks, the under. You know, back in the day,
there used to be one game that was always in
Standard Deaf. Everything else was in HD, but for some
reason one was in SD, Like that would be the
Standard Deaf game of the week. And it is not
a great slate of games, as we laid out yesterday.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
So here's the hard thing, too, is when you have
a double barrel action like last night, Yeah, and you've
just got you know, double digit wins. I guess you
could say the Lions Seahawks was it.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Was entertaining at one point.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
At one point, yeah, they got within a touchdown and
then obviously GoF hit. It was a Jamison Williams for
a long touchdown, So that's kind of that.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Was like fifteen points.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
My point is, I feel like, and we talked about
this before, like the excitement around the league has been
well documented.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
I'm I'm sure if you guys know this.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
The first four weeks they've been more mistackles since they've
been tracking the stat since twenty seventeen than ever.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
There's been an ungodly amount of mistackles.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
In fact, if you extrapolate it out for the entirety
of a season, they will average over eighteen miss tackles
per game. That's the rate that they're on right now.
It's just it's bad, dude, It's bad football. And this
is a league that you know, I think they just
sit there and look at the fan base. Oh, they'll they'll,
they'll watch, they'll they'll continue to keep. No, man, it's
(16:39):
not an entertaining product. It's not great to watch. You're
getting bad matchups, so no one's gonna watch. The rating
is gonna be down. These TV networks are gonna be
upset about this. And the problem is, like all people
care about his money. They don't care about saying maybe
we need to invest back some of this money into
the product. Like maybe the NFL, maybe Roger Goodell needs
to realize that these off seasons that the union keeps
(17:01):
fighting for, and even the union for that matter, they
need to realize they're making a crappier product. It's hurting
their players. There's not as much growth, there's not as
much development. All these things are leading to I think
guys having shorter careers. If you look at the average
lifespan of an NFL player, it's under three years. The
one thing they've done to help prop that up has
allow veterans to be on practice squads where the practice
(17:23):
squad eligibility rules are different now.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
But even then, no one's being developed anymore.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
It's become tough to watch, and the NFL and the NFLPA,
the powers that be, like they need to start looking
at this more intently to figure out how can we
actually make this more of a full year job where
we're allowing these guys to develop.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
So we've got a better product. So, by the way,
so guys aren't getting injured, that's part of why.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
The reason why guys get injured their bodies out of position,
They're not in the right place where they should be.
There's a mental area of mistake. All this stuff needs
to be looked at.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
And I don't know you.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Guys feel, but like this is part of our job
is watching this, coming back, analyzing and talking about it.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
It's been crap. It has not been fun to watch again.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
And I know people go, oh, you know college football,
college football, you kind of expect it to some degree
at that level because they're younger, and then there's restrictions
around how much they can practice and play all that
because they're a student as well and everything else.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
You don't have any league, no, and so there's no
excuses for it. Then you only got thirty two teams.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
You don't have one hundred and thirty plus teams like
you do at the FBS level.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
That's the hard part about it.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
So I said I misspoke earlier. It was actually the
Seahawks had gained thirty eight first downs in the game
last night. That's the most in NFL history and a
loss combine the Titans and Dolphins at twenty nine, So
you know, just two different games, two different worlds last
night from what we got to see one one over
to the other. So yeah, it's there's been some bad games. Look,
(18:55):
even the Chiefs like, look, Patrick Mahomes is the best
in the league right now. Everybody knows that and acknowledges that,
Like that doesn't look all that hot. Like there's just
there's a lot of a lot of teams out there
that you watch and you go, what the hell is this?
Like penalties and everything else that goes along with it.
So it's been ugly. But October's here, so maybe they
(19:16):
just needed to get out of this little preseason stretch
and now we've got a good football right around the corner.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
I would assume that the football is going to improve dramatically.
Well can't get worse, which could oh good, But I
would assume it's going to improve because now we're out
of preseason.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
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Speaker 2 (19:45):
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Speaker 4 (19:59):
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Sports HQ analyst. Is this music and get him on
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Speaker 3 (20:16):
I forgot about that. That's right, that's right. How are
we feeling?
Speaker 7 (20:21):
I'm good, guys? How are you? I mean you know that?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah, of course you love this. You're a smooth operator.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
Yeah of course. Well I used to be.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Hey, come on, every one saw you guys going to
date night. I've seen it before. There's still a lot
of smooth operating in there.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Yeah, we do, we do, Pete, what do you think
of the smooth operating of Mason Rudolph last night?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I came in a relief for your guy, Will Levis.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
I mean they all stink. I mean the quarterback, the quarterbacks.
The quarterback play in this league is atrocious right now
in a lot of places. I mean it really is.
And they didn't even try and pass. They go, here, Mason,
you're in now, Well we're just going to turn and
run the ball. And you know what, Miami didn't stop it.
So they kept doing it and doing it.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
And doing it.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
And you know, on the other side, I mean, you
feel sorry for Ronley. I mean, he goes in there,
he barely knows the plays and they couldn't do anything.
So it's that was bad. Levis getting hurt, not good.
Levis throwing a band interception not good. But the quarterback
play around this league, in large part because bad off
as the line play as part of the reason, is awful.
Right now, you got.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yeah, And I'm just going to ask you.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
You know, we get on you about Will Levis and
all that kind of stuff, but at what point do
you kind of start being alarmed obviously injury last night,
but just in general, if he doesn't start taking those
strides that you know, you and maybe some others have
kind of proclaimed he's going to take this year.
Speaker 7 (21:44):
Yeah, well, I mean, if he keeps some own interceptions
like that Brady, he's going to go sit on the bench.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
But you see one of those guys who just throws
bad picks.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I mean, there's guys who just they do that at times,
they throw bad interceptions.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
Yeah, that one was like all the one like the
one he threw for the pick six last week. Defended
that and Kurt Warner did a great breakdown of it.
But there's no defense to the one last You got
to see that guy. How do you not see him?
I mean that that to me is concerning, and I
wanted to see how he would respond to it. I
do think if he had responded well to it, fine,
If he didn't respond to it, I think they're going
(22:16):
to yank maybe yank him out of there anyway. So
the fact he got hurt, and look, he made a
great play to try and get the first down, probably
did get the first down. They should have challenged that.
But you got to be, you know, less reckless with
your body too. So look, there's a lot of things
that play there. If he doesn't pick it up, he's
going to be a failure. I mean, and then you
look at that quarterback class and you go Bryce Young
(22:37):
right now, failure, Will Levis failure, Anthony Richardson under fifty
percent complete your percentage, you know, debates still out there.
And then you got DJ Stroud the only guy that's
playing worth a dam. So that's kind of the way
the quarterback position goes these days.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
I like your your commentary there and listen, it's kind
of in a way, Pete.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
It's the teams as well.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
There are a lot of teams that you would have
we would have looked at and said, preseason wise, we
wouldn't think that they'd be struggling the way that they are.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
You know, what do you attribute that to?
Speaker 6 (23:08):
I mean, I feel like they're coming out of preseason
right now, if you ask me, I feel like practices
are different, the approach is different, the you know, the
focus in on health is much higher, the understanding of
the you know, the needs of the players is higher.
What I mean, do you look at this and you say,
you know, maybe we're going to see better football now? Like,
(23:29):
what's your take on just the state of play altogether
right now? In the NFL?
Speaker 7 (23:34):
State of play is terrible. I mean, I'll be the
first one to say it, and I've been around this
game for a long time, and you make good points there. Look,
here's a couple of things that you don't hit during camp.
So once you go to to the regular season, you're
hitting for the first time. Offensive lines don't work together.
They can't hit, they can't simulate, you know, coming off
the double and the speed of the linebacker, because they
(23:55):
don't do that in training camp, so you don't get
to that until you're in the regular season. All the
teams that twist and stunt the oppositive line can't handle
it because they don't see it, they don't rep it.
And I think that's where quarterbacks are getting blasted, and
therefore the quarterback play is bad. And so you're sped
up up front, but everybody's playing a lot of off covers,
so you're slowed down on the back end, and the
(24:16):
combination of the two makes for bad quarterback play. The
other thing is it's a survival test. We're in week four.
Look around in the league and see who's not playing.
And I always say, this is my theory on it.
I think guys over training. Now you come out of it,
and you know that's just me and Brady have talked
about this in the past. But you train, you come out,
(24:37):
you take maybe two three weeks off, and boom, you're
right back to training with high intensity trainers around the country.
Your guys. Then you go do all your stuff with
the team, and then you maybe take the week and
a half off and most guys don't do the top
doing anything in that week and a half off before
the season starts and they get right back into training camp.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
So what were they doing in the old days? Well,
what were they doing in the old days? Now?
Speaker 7 (24:59):
In the old days, they up playing in December and
they had one mini camp where everybody came back slovenly
and smoking cigarettes and drinking booze, and then they showed
up in training camp and got themselves in shape. And
you have left to that.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Yeah, you need you need a carton of Marlboroughs and
that's all you gotta have happened.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Back the cigarette smoking, Come on, Pete, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
That was ridiculous. I mean, look, no, not cigarettes. But
but you know, guys today are so they spend so
much money to take care of their body, and sometimes
I think they overtrain it. I mean, look at look
look at Christian McCaffrey. He's got achilles ten and ice
in both you know ankles, I mean both legs. That's ridiculous.
I mean he's overtraining. I think there's too much training going.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
On that or maybe something's going off the off the field,
you know, Wow, yeah, he.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Just got busy opera.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
He might be one of the smoothest, right that, or.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Is a herky jerky Maybe that's what if.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Pete,
I wanted to ask you just to explain a couple
of things because I was on your Twitter account, your
x account at Prisco CBS, and I just I'm gonna
read off three tweets and I would like for you
to explain just what these are in reference to. All Right,
so this is all from Sunday. All right, So.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Tweet one, can you get any dumber? Play?
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Tweet two, That, folks, is what you call overthinking it
play football? Tweet three, how to turn a momentum faucet off?
Speaker 3 (26:35):
One oh one? What was that in reference to?
Speaker 7 (26:38):
That's in reference to the bill stupid trick play that
they try to run and you're going down. It's twenty
one to ten and you got momentum and you're driving
and you try stupid trick play? What the hell was that?
The guy gets planted, they fumble, and the whole momentum
has gone, the game is over. I just and at
(26:59):
least look to give Joe Brady credit because he came
right out afterwards he said that was a stupid decision
on my part, and it really was. And when I
see that, you know, I just, what are these guys thinking?
You have the momentum. It's not like you're trying to
get it back. You're going you're moving in to make
it a one score game. Why do you do that?
So everybody sits around on Monday and says, oh my gosh,
(27:20):
look how creative he is. Go play football. It was
ridiculous with a dumb call, mighty calls.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
In the game.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Let me ask you this one I threw out to
the guys earlier. Do you think maybe the Rams are
looking at Jared Goff and how he's playing right now
and are like, you know, maybe we would have won
a super Bowl if we just want to stuck with
Jared Goff.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
Yeah, He's No. I don't think they're thinking that because
they knew what they had Jared ivan looking. I give
Ben Johnson and that group a lot of credit for
making it really easy on him. And Sean mcvay' is
a great play caller too. But at the time of
his life, I think they needed to make the move
to go get Stafford, and had they not won it,
I think they really be sitting there saying, maybe we
did make the wrong decision. But I mean, look, Stafford
(28:02):
is doing damn good quarterback and they moved the football
with nobody. I mean that that's the tribute to Sean
McVay and nobody.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
They didn't. They didn't look very good. They made the
Bears defense like almost like the eighty five Bears. His
past week, I yeah, bounce over Bartenders, Yeah I did.
Speaker 7 (28:21):
What about the week before? What about the week before?
Speaker 1 (28:24):
When when I'm just saying, he's not moving the same
the arm, it just doesn't look the same, man, That's
all I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
And Jared gobb there's our headline, there's our Brady headline
that Stafford washed up.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
By the way, he used to do this when we
worked together.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
He would take anything I said and then he just
would make it into the most like headline ever.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
And like.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
You said that, yeah, I did go viral, go viral,
but he's washed.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I'm not. I'm not trying to get a virus or
go viral. And Peter, I'll save that for you, Pal
Tang lost.
Speaker 7 (29:01):
Us. What right, LaVar, That's what it sounded like to Pete.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Pete, how about this talk about golf, because what he
did last night was historic. We don't see that very often. Man,
it was pretty ridiculous how he played, you know, it was, Yeah,
it was.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
It was outstanding. I mean, look it was. It was
well done. He stood in there, made the throws and
and look that Seattle defense is a shell of itself
with all the injuries. But you got to give credit.
Not one hit the ground. That's amazing to think about that.
You could have one tips at the line of scrimmage normally.
So yeah, I give him all the credit. But he's
a good player. I always thought he was a better
player than he got credit for. And you're right. He
(29:36):
fits with what they want to do with Detroit. He's
having He's also a good start. He's having a good
career with the Lions, and he resurrected it.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
At Prisco CBS is where you can find him just
airing out decision making in the NFL on on fire basis.
Pete Prisco's CBS Sports, CBS Sports HQ analyst. He's our
smooth operator every Tuesday here on the show.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Well you do what.
Speaker 7 (30:01):
Buy, idiot, that's what the coaches and general managers are
in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Dah, that's a headline. Bang bang, there is the great cool.
Let's go with us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Coming up next here, we are going to close up
shop on a Tuesday morning with another edition of Lee's
Leftovers here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
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Speaker 3 (30:37):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
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Speaker 3 (30:43):
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Speaker 4 (30:44):
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Speaker 3 (30:49):
We've got our midweek Awards as well too.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
We've got four playoff games in Major League Baseball coming
up later on, all sorts of stuff to discuss, NFL,
college football.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
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Speaker 2 (31:22):
These might smell a little fun game that sounds incredible,
but they're still good.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Time to find out what's left?
Speaker 2 (31:30):
It's Lee's laugh over all.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Right, d'lat what do we got? All right?
Speaker 8 (31:35):
Guys?
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Happy October first?
Speaker 8 (31:37):
Nothing says October first, much like the start of Major
League Baseball Wildcard you know that starts today? We got
are you guys gonna be watching the wild Card games?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Of course we got to fourteen? Did you guys watch
the games yesterday?
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Oh that that first game ends? The first game was wild, man,
but they ended up ultimately both getting out.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
It's a good watch. Bar No, it's not Fox, Come
on man, Fox Fox.
Speaker 7 (32:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (32:07):
Yeah, we've got Astros at Tigers, Royals visiting the Orioles
Brewers hosting.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
The Mets or Pirates.
Speaker 7 (32:16):
I know.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
No, it's also uh, these games, so the we've got
way in a while it's the Pirates. Yeah, I'm a
way till next year. These are all that's another year,
another track. These are all Disney showcases.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
By the way, you know these are all uh coming
up today, ABC, ESPN two. So not Fox, No, you
would say, but sure, sure glad the you're glad the
Cubs are a part of it again?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
What sports radio? Fox? Sports radio? How do you say cut?
You mean Fox? Pretty good? Dumped?
Speaker 6 (33:02):
What else?
Speaker 7 (33:02):
We go?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Well?
Speaker 8 (33:03):
With it being October one, h when do you guys
start thinking about putting up decorations for Halloween?
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Well? Maybe start last night. So oh I observed them
being put up, but I don't ever think about them.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Oh, fall decorations, as you seem like the fall decorations
type of first Oh yeah, but we'll be like my
wife goes all out and it's been that way for
three four weeks.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
What's all out?
Speaker 4 (33:29):
That autumn leaves a pumpkin everywhere you step, like everything
is thankful.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Everything, it's like a thankful She skips right over Halloween
to Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Oh, it doesn't even like Fall is fall, and even
when it's not right, and then once that's over, then
Christmas is here, and then I think Okay.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Find the funny thing.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
About you people out here is that those leaves that
you're talking about that you want to round your house,
and my ass and my brothers along with many others
had to rake those bad boys up and put them
in bags. So while you're sitting there having fun, Oh,
look at the different colored leaves. Oh, that would be
(34:13):
fun to put them around the house. Yeah, some of
us was getting buried in them joints trying to rake
them up and put them in bags.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
I'll say this, it was nice being in State college
because you could see the beginning of fall, saw it,
and then we come out to La and it's ninety
five degree damn, just miserable.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
We don't have a heat waved to day.
Speaker 8 (34:30):
Ye, my palm trees shedding into my pool and that's
that's that's a bummer. That's fall fall weather right there.
Speaker 6 (34:37):
Dust.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
So you saw Impact game list. Yeah, you lead off
this segment with like an alcohol recommendation like this, what
are you tying, Adams? Well, that's a good time.
Speaker 8 (34:48):
Yeah, it's a good time to find your spice rum
and put it into your uh, your pumpkin spices.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
What you know.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
I'm glad, Yes, rady. Yeah, there you go. I mean
that was coming.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
I got pumpkin pumpkin spice and the refrigerator and in
the back. That's why I was drinking this morning. You
know it's my favorite you brought. It's only seasonal. Yeah,
but I'm taking it with me. I'm not leaving it here.
You know, it'd be some heathen work going on around here. Man,
I don't trust it. Yeah, I'm gonna take it right
with me.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Smart move smart.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (35:17):
Well, I was on the way to the uh to
the story yesterday and I said, hey to my good
old friend that I yel el's there.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
Now.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
What did you say to him when you saw him?
I don't know, is that you? Hey, buddy? Now what
I buy?
Speaker 8 (35:36):
They did put a tarp up on the fence, so
I had to kind of like peek in and make
sure he was there.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
What you right there?
Speaker 8 (35:43):
He scared me because it was it was it was
dark out. He's got an imprint, so he looked like
a skeleton.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
What a some like alpaca?
Speaker 6 (35:50):
Yer?
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Yeah? Leave him alone? He hi, Yeah he did. He
perked up. I think I woke him up. Start spitting
in your face.
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Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.