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October 3, 2024 35 mins

The Jets could use an Aaron Rodgers security blanket like Davante Adams. Senior NFL Reporter for TheMMQB, Albert Breer gives insight on the Adams drama in Vegas and much more. Plus, Lee's Leftovers. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Give this you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
That's a great stretch moment right there. Get a real
good stretch on that one. Yes song Jonas good picking
make you want to just walk down the hall and
just slap random people, like just slap them. Yeah yeah,
slop yeah yeah, slap yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
What time they start showing up to the football building
there at Penn State.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
It depends like this is a Wednesday, so they up
been here. They get up in here early.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Food be ready. Food was already gone when I got
here at like five thirty. So it's a nice place, man,
It's a pretty cool place. Like you go into Saturday
though or Friday. What was that today? I had to
get the police to let me in. I don't know, man,
one of days Friday, I think it was Friday. Yeah, Friday.
Everybody gets to sleep on Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
I was just gonna say that. I remember being told
when I was young, how it's it's not the night before,
it's the night before, the night before where you need
the best rest.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
And I always felt like that was true.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Like I always felt like, I don't even know if
it's scientifically proven, but mentally I always felt like when
I look back and I got good rest two nights
before whatever game, I always like look up feeling the best.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Like even if I didn't sleep at.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
All the night before because I was so excited or
whatever it was, there was something about the night before,
the night before.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
You know, yeah, I can dig it. Yeah, yeah, that's
that's today. Today is the night before the night before.
That's right.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Well, yeah you're rested, bar I am tired. Yeah, that's
all right. You sound great, thank you, Yeah, you sound great.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
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(02:45):
as we pick some moneyline games in the NFL this weekend,
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here on last week.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, I think we did. That's not great. Did all
of us do awful?

Speaker 1 (03:00):
I took the Niners, which is the took the biggest spread,
So there's that.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Do we do two versions of it?

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Did we do one where it was a little more
risky and then one where we kind of picked the favorites.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
Yeah, we got greedy.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
We went three teamer and then we did six teamer,
which just never pays out.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
We did work together on that, huh.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
Yeah, we kind of built it here on the air.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
It didn't work out. No, that's not good.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
Because that's that's a problem with the parlay.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
You miss one and you lose them all if you
do it with DraftKings. Yeah, they got options opportunities. We
do have a little bit of an update here just
some clarity. Ian Rappaport of the NFL Network reported earlier
that DeVante Adams has a wish, a preference. Uh, he

(03:46):
would like to be a member of the New York Jets.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Oh no, go figure, but he.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Has not demanded that he Did's only the Jets. He
is open to other options, but he would like to
play for the Jets if.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
That was Are the Jets open to wanting to go
get Davonte Adams? And what do the Jets give up
to get Davonte Adams.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
I just know whatever Robert Sala says, it probably will
be wrong and Rogers will have to come out and
correct it after the fact.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
Tang, you got to assume that Davante is in a
great position because Aaron Rodgers does hold the keys to
the car to the kingdom in New York City.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
I mean the Jets do have sixteen almost seventeen million
in cap space.

Speaker 4 (04:35):
So that man said hold him accountable. Bight at the microphone,
told the coach, hold them accountable. They gonna get this
deal done.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, I think the deal with the space to do it.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
So it depends on what the Raiders because here and
you could there's precedent said where it's a set can
round pick and something that's kind of been what's worked
in the past. The problem is, you know, the Jets
want them, you know Devons Adams wants them, and so
the Raiders are like, all right, go pay up. We

(05:12):
can send them wherever we would like.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
I mean, I just think it's interesting.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
I think it's interesting the timing of having a frustrated
main receiver in New York at the same exact time
you have a frustrated receiver in Las Vegas. Like, I
just think that that's what's the coincidence of that. Like,

(05:38):
what's kid's name Wilson.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Right, and not his name, Garrey Wilson.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
I mean, he has the same type of complaints almost
feeling the same type of way with production and how
that all looks and how that feels to him in
New York, and yet you have DeVante trying to get there.
I mean, is there the possibility that Davante could be

(06:03):
grossly underestimating going and rejoining Aaron Rodgers in a new environment,
a new setting, a new team, and Aaron Rodgers hasn't
even established if he can be the guy all like that.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
In New york I would say this, he knows what
he's getting himself into. He knows the quarterback, he's going
to know the offense, he knows the offensive play caller.
So all those things line up for him to be
in a better situation than probably what he's looking at with.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
The Raiders right now. And the other comment to that
would be.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
The frustration that Gara Wilson's talked about when he's watching
other teams and what they do, how they move around players,
the shifts, the motions pre snap. You don't see that
quite as much.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
And it was like that in the Green Bay when
Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Was there, and there's times where Lafloora could get in
the place he wanted to. And now you see since
he's left, how much more they like to do that,
the pre snap motion shifts, and it's just it's something that.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
You know, go back to Peyton Manning. They didn't do
a ton of it.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
It was all about cadence and at the line of
scrimmage and trying to determine what the defense was doing
so he could get the team the best possible play.
He was that field general. Aaron Rodgers is very much
like that. It's one of the reasons why the conversation
about the false starts was a hot button topic for him,
because he's been doing this his entire career. He's known
for this. I mean, everyone's trying to replicate what he does.

(07:25):
He replicated what Brett Farv did so they could get
free plays, they could get those those touchdowns, those big
plays or pass interferences off of it.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
So he understands how.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Big of a tool that is and his tool belt
to utilize. And more so than that, it's his ability
to be able to go up to the line of scrimmage,
threaten them, to be able to run a play or
threaten them, to be able to get them to jump
off sides and get a free play, but also to
gather information that's reconnaissance, right, He's getting all that information
to then figure out what play he wants to get into,

(07:57):
what route he wants to check to. So so here's
the frustration of Garrett Wilson is well, he's being more static,
you know, so it's easier for defenses to put a
corner in safety over top of him or to play
bracket coverage if he's somewhere else. What makes it difficult
it is when you have Bresall and Braylan Allen their
two running backs running the football well, and then you

(08:18):
have Demante Adams, and you have Gia Wilson, and you
have Mike Williams, Alan Lazard these other different pass options,
it becomes really really hard to take away all of that.
So the more talented that roster becomes, the more static
the offensive alignment can be pre snapped because the defense
has to show their hands.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
They have to say, we're gonna either.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Gonna try to stop the run first second down and
then try to play you know, whatever type of split
safety coverage or some sort of bracket coverage, or we're
gonna try to double Garret Wilson, We're gonna try to
double DeVante Adams. In this hypothetical scenario, it makes it
that much more difficult for defenses because then you've got
Mike Williams one, then you have Alan Lazard one on one,
maybe it's you know, Tyler kap On one on one,

(09:00):
whatever the case is, or Braylen Allen has been great
out of the backfield as as Brisaul. You find those
mismatches then because they can't take it all away. So
that would be the reason why I think Devanta Adams
looks at New York and says, no, I can make
this work because he was already in Green Bay and
he experienced that and you can go through the time.

(09:22):
So they had other players who are able to capitalize
because the attention DeVonta Adams got. And oh, by the way,
the ability for Aaron Rodgers and Devanta Adams still to
be double teams, like, doesn't matter, he'll make it. He'll
make the whole shot throw. He'll make the throw that
we're like, yeah, no one but Aaron Rodgers can fit
that in there. No one but Devanta Adams can make
that catch. Like they're that rare of a combination. So

(09:44):
I hope it happens just so both of these players
ultimately can get what they want and we can see
what it looks like.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Now.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Whether or not that turns into anything, I don't know,
but I would love to see Devanta Adams and Aaron
Rodgers back together again.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Is the Jets offense outdated? And I ask that because
when Mike McCarthy was fired in Green Bay, one of
the knocks on him afterwards, what was that the offense
and his scheme was outdated?

Speaker 2 (10:12):
That you needed to freshen up.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
So he got together and some you know workshed somewhere
and got coaches together during his one year off and
all that, and they watched film and and sort of
had this this kind of you know, meeting every single
week to go over stuff in the NFL because he
needed to adapt to the new NFL. Well, I don't
I mean, is that like who's from now that we

(10:33):
know that? Like, is that what's happening here? That maybe
what Rogers brought from Green Bay is outdated in New York?

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Like?

Speaker 6 (10:42):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (10:42):
I don't think so?

Speaker 7 (10:43):
No?

Speaker 1 (10:43):
I mean it, Look the football's football goes through cycles.
Right now, everyone's talking about the shell coverage, two high looks.
We've heard people talk at length about let's outlaw two
eye safety.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
No, that's not what it is.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Let's bring back a fullback, Let's bring back more base personnel,
Let's bring back the personnel groupings. That force defense is
to put an extra defender in the box. Otherwise you
have the numbers count and you should be able to
block and run the football effectively. And then you build
play auction and play action off of that, you build
the boots off of that.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
That's part of the issue.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
And if you really want to mess with the defense,
you take that twenty one to twelve personnel or however
you want to define it. You know, regular base, and
you start splitting out into empty formations. And so you
take the base personnel from defense that they're going to
have to put on the field once you start being
able to run the football, and you make those guys
match up either in zone or man coverage, and you

(11:37):
build things from there. Like the hard part about the
conversation regards to why shell coverage has become so effective,
and then you can point to a bunch of reasons.
For me, it's like what we're playing with so many
three wide receiver sets. There's constantly three our receivers in
the field. So you're already telling the defense kind of
what you want to do. You have guys who aren't
as good at blocking. You're allowing the defenses to match

(11:59):
you just even in nickel, but in dime and these
light packages where you know you've got lighter linebackers. Now,
I mean for these dudes are like two twenty five,
they are smaller, yes, some are thirty.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
You're playing dime and nickel more than your playing base defenses.
You're nice and so generally that's the new norm is
not even to have you know, three linebackers thumpers out there.
You have more coverage guys. So yeah, yeah, I mean
you're one hundred percent right of the evolution of all
of it.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
And that's the thing is no one wants to talk
about it.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
It's like no one wants to talk about the fact
that let's just like like look at, for example, why
San Francisco's offense is so effective, Like, yes, brock Purty
is really good operating that offense.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
They have really good players. It's also the.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Fact they still run the damn ball man, Like they're
still finding creases, finding ways of getting you into formations
and fronts. They won to be able to run the
football effectively, and they use base personnel to do it.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Use check is a huge weapon, Like we will look
at them as a Swiss army knife.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Because people in fantasy love the fact that he catches
the football and he plays a part of the passing
game that helps out party, that helps out the offense.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
But the reality is like go look at Baltimore and
go look at Ricard and the way he opens up holes.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
I mean how scary of a combination is Derrick Henry
and Patrick Ricard becoming with Lamar and Lamar Jackson's ability
to run the.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Football and hell, well, and he's he's kind of that
that switch up, right, he's the guy you throw to
as well, and he's got to speak to.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
But I'm just saying, man, if you if you want
to say that's not outdated, like most people would say
going back to more regular base personnel, two running backs,
two tight end sets, bringing an offensive lineman, Well, but
they would say that that's more old school, right, Yeah,
so I wouldn't say.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
That it's outdated.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
I would say, if anything, like offenses need to maybe
go back and look at being a little more outdated
with how they're going to approach a lot of what
we're saying right now in the NFL and starting to
run the football or even throw the football at some
of those base personnel groupings.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Yeah, you guys are ready to party?

Speaker 5 (14:00):
Why are you ready to You're ready to throw a
little party.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
I just want you to know I'm scarred by last week.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
Man.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Way I've learned on Knox locks because how bad I've been.
You just got to dust yourself off and keep coming over.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, I know you say that crap. But what you're
gonna do is you're gonna pick.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Let's see, all right, we've got your old faithful San Francisco.
We got he maybe stays in the NFC West with
Seattle or the Chiefs. So those are the three games
that Jonas will pick.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Hey, listen, I'll let you guys pick first because I'm
gonna pick a winner. That's all I know. That's the
one thing I can guarantee on this year is there is.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
One game, LeVar I want to pick before Jonas, just
to try to take it away.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
So satisfied, right, So go ahead.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
This is the party part to see if our friends
are DraftKings. So this is what we're doing. We are
going to pick a parlay. We're gonna build it on
the air, and we're gonna show you what the payout
would be if you go to draft Kings right now.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
So who wants to go first? Because I'll go don't matter.
Yeah you want to go first, of bar, sure, I'll
go first. I'll give your first crack out of it.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Just a team to win, you know, don't even need pointspread.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Jump on the Vikings. Guess who they're taking on the Jets.
The Jets are coming into Minnesota, London, London, London, change
your pick. No, the Vikings are still the home team.
And I don't feel like, I mean, even though they're
the j E T has Jets where they should be
flying and they they should be the ones that should

(15:23):
be the favorites.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
I say, rock with the Vikings, all right.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
So the London Vikings, London Biking.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
All right, Brady, who are you taking? All right? So
I could go with the San Francisco forty Niners.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
They are a seven point, you know, a favorite over
the Cardinals at home for the Seahawks, who are floating
with a touchdown. They're a six point favorite of the
Giants for the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
But I'm gonna go with the Chicago Bears. Rat bastard.
Oh yeah, I knew that's exactly what Jonas want to do.
Is Chicago Bears.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
They're a four point favorite over the Panthers at Soldier Field.
I'm gonna take away that pick from Jonas and I'm
gonna select it.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Damn you? How fail you? All right?

Speaker 3 (16:02):
So we continue on here on this little parlay party.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
That kind of throws a wrench into things I.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
Will go, all right, you know what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
What are you gonna do?

Speaker 3 (16:11):
I'm gonna take the Jacksonville Jaguars on the money line
hosting the Indianapolis Colts.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
I will take Jacksonville.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
So, I just think I liked a little bit of
what I saw last week. They were at least competitive.
I think they bounced back who the hell knows with
Anthony Richardson Joe Flacco. I think Jacksonville responds at home,
And I'm going to take the jackson What we've got
here on this little parlay party. We've got the Vikings
on the money line over in England to take on
the Jets, Bearsnel Panthers, and we got the Jaguars hosting

(16:44):
the Colts. That money line payout if you lay one
hundred dollars, the payout is plus three nineteen, so a
plus three nineteen payout.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
If you would like.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
To be a part of this, if you would like
to go on DraftKings and then and look at this.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
And say, hey, I'd like to bring back four nineteen
and change. You take those three money lines right now, Bears, Jags,
and Vikings this weekend, and it's a nice little payout
of four hundred and nineteen dollars on you one hundred
dollars A plus three to nineteen in.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
This parlay party. Chang out that.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
Get that work all right, Maam and Lee.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Keep track of that, because I'm a feeling that's going
to go south in a hurry. It is probably two
Pros and a Cup of Joe Here on Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you coming up
next year, though, we're going to get the very latest
on this trade speculation with DeVante Adams. Could it be
happening sooner rather than later. We'll get the details on
it right here on FSR.

Speaker 8 (17:43):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 3 (17:58):
Right now, we're going to welcome in Albert Breer, senior
NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the m MQB, also
an insider for Amazon's NFL on prime coverage AB, What's Happening?

Speaker 5 (18:10):
Good Morning, Happy Thursday?

Speaker 7 (18:11):
Yeah, and also former Texas resident so I heard that.
I'm not sure where Franklin's is, but I always liked uh.

Speaker 6 (18:18):
I don't know if you've been to Hard.

Speaker 7 (18:19):
Eight and Capel like that was near the Valley Ranch,
the Cowboys Old facility. That place is outstanding. And then
and then the Salt Lick, and I think it's in Driftwood.
It's like outside of Austin.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
It's in the hill country somewhere there.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
You know.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
You know what I like about the go to try
Franklins bro That's all same, you know, I like it.

Speaker 6 (18:37):
Where is it? Where?

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Where it's in Austin. I don't know the exact spot,
but it's in Austin. We try to every time we
have a game there, we try to go by.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
It's the best part is is when you go to
the website, it says the hours open eleven am until
sold out, So whenever you get there with their left,
it's gone.

Speaker 7 (18:55):
It's like that too, that like lines up. God, I
wish I could remember the name of it. But there's
a place in Houston like that where like you almost
have to go there for lunch because they almost never
make it to dinner. You like, it's so popular in
the line for lunch is outrageous and.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
They ah, so, so what's the line like to acquire
DeVante Adams right now?

Speaker 2 (19:16):
How's that looking?

Speaker 7 (19:17):
Ab Well, the line, I'd say there are some skeptics
in the line is the way I would say, uh, say.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
That thing's going right now.

Speaker 7 (19:25):
You know, some of the other teams involved really believe
that Adams is trying to engineer trade to the Jets. Now,
if you want to kind of rewind and how this
all happened, you know, obviously over the last couple of weeks,
Adams has had discussion with the Raiders about this, and
they know his preferences and his preference display with a.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
Quarterback that he's familiar with.

Speaker 7 (19:45):
The Jets are at the top of the list, you know,
and I think you'd be naive to think that Adams
and Aaron Rodgers haven't haven't talked about.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
This, you know.

Speaker 7 (19:53):
So there's that, and then you know, the Saints are
another team that I know he mentioned the Raiders, but
I think the same cap situation kind of precludes them
from being really involved in it. The Steelers the Bills
have also inquired, but again, like there's just this feel
there that he's trying to engineer a trade to the

(20:14):
Jets at this point, that's what his focus is. It
doesn't mean he won't play anywhere else or anything like that,
but you know, it's it's pretty clear to the other
teams involved that that the Jets are where he wants
to be.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
So because of that, does that make this trade easier
or harder? Considering the Raiders are probably looking to say,
we need to make a market, but everyone feels he
wants to go to one team.

Speaker 7 (20:36):
I think it makes it harder, you know, especially if
you're looking for like say too right, and you know,
we can all look at it and say, well, he
should get what Brandon at was.

Speaker 6 (20:47):
Was was going to get if he had been traded.
I think that's naive, you.

Speaker 7 (20:51):
Know, like I I you know, and if you want
to look at the trade offers for I, you know,
the Patriots offered a it was a two four and
and Kendrick Bourne. The Browns offered a two of five
and Amari Cooper. The Steelers offered a two and a three.
So like those offers were, you know, for a twenty

(21:12):
six year old receiver that you could see being with
you for the next half decades. Jeantay Adams turns thirty
two in December. He's a great receiver. I'm not taking
anything away from him. He's obviously a special receiver, and by.

Speaker 6 (21:24):
All account's a pretty good guy too, you know.

Speaker 7 (21:26):
Like so it's just the reality of his age, you know.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
And so I think that the easier comps.

Speaker 7 (21:31):
So are probably Keenan Allen and Stefan Diggs. Alan is
eight months older than Adams. Diggs is eleven months younger
those guys. Production, the production of those three was similar.

Speaker 6 (21:43):
Last year, Alan was traded for four, Diggs was moved
for a two. But it was a future too.

Speaker 7 (21:49):
It was a two a year away from the trade, right,
it was a twenty five two when he was right,
and then and then and then and then a five and.

Speaker 6 (21:57):
A six went back with it to Houston. So there
was a give back there too.

Speaker 7 (22:02):
So I say, like that's roughly Brady like the equivalent
like value wise of a three. So like, I think,
what you're looking at here, if you want to just
you know, use the comps and everything else, it's probably a.

Speaker 6 (22:14):
Three or four.

Speaker 7 (22:15):
And you know, if you're the Raiders, I can't imagine
you'd be okay with like okay, like well, we're going
to take the pr hit for this and everything else,
and we're going to do it for a four.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
I think a three would be more palatable. But again,
like if you if you if you don't have like.

Speaker 7 (22:31):
A like if the Bills and Stealers are sitting there
and saying, no, we're not going to participate in you
tracking the market up, then like do the Raiders feel uncomfortable,
like they're not getting true value?

Speaker 6 (22:43):
Like that's what's difficult about it.

Speaker 7 (22:45):
I think if you're the Raiders, like you want to
feel comfortable that you're getting true value for the player,
but you know, without you know, like without without you know,
like three or four or five like real bidders. Because
people are skeptical that DeVante is going to get what
he wants here, it's hard to really gauge with that value.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
Might be abe, I'm a I'm gonna switch to a
different receiver who actually did show support and did say
he loves his team and loves where he's at and
treek Kill, but he's gotta be you gotta be looking
at This situation is one of the most complex and
and just you know, very very difficult situations to be

(23:23):
in because if you're Tyreek Hill, soon as you get
soon as you get you know, tongue of aloa back.
The idea of it has to be he's one hit
away from it being what what is next? And we're
seeing that they're not good without him on the field.
So while he is very supportive of the team and
supportive of his situation, uh is this is this a

(23:47):
situation where Tyreek Hill maybe should be thinking about trying
to get out of out of dodge in Miami.

Speaker 7 (23:54):
I think, like, I think a big part of him
wanting to be in Miami in the first place was personal,
you know, like that you know, his family was there,
and you know he I think he wanted to live there,
you know. So I think that that makes the dynamic
in Miami a little bit different. I think he likes
being there. I think he likes the organization and playing
with Mike McDaniel and all that different stuff. Obviously've been

(24:16):
able to get a lot of out of them as
the player as well. But you're right, like I think,
you know, from a football standpoint, this is really really
complicated because like let's just say, for instance, they hadn't
signed to it of the contract, right, well, then if
you're one of these guys, you can look at it
and say, well, you know, if two is not okay,
then you know, like maybe then in the off season

(24:39):
you trade for Kirk Cousins, who Mike McDaniel was together
within Washington.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
Right, and maybe there's like a path out that way.

Speaker 7 (24:47):
The contract that just makes it so much more complicated,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (24:51):
Like, so, I just like I think the I think
the easiest way to describe it.

Speaker 7 (24:58):
Is LeVar is like that the the Dolphins have a
ton of eggs in the too a tongue of below
a basket. And so if the Dolphins have a ton
of eggs in the to a tongue of below a basket,
that means if you're a player who's signed their long
term you do too, you know.

Speaker 6 (25:12):
So I just think.

Speaker 7 (25:13):
It's complicated because of that. But you know, I do
think like that Tyreek, at least my feeling is like
Tyreek's been really comfortable with the idea of both living
and working in Miami. I think it's a huge motivator
in him picking the Dolphins over the Jets. You know,
a couple of years ago, when of the opportunity to
go either of those teams, and you know, we'll see

(25:36):
maybe it'll be enough.

Speaker 6 (25:37):
To help him manage what could.

Speaker 7 (25:39):
Be a challenging football situation over the next few months.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Albert Bride joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Obviously
you'll be on the call and part of the coverage
for Amazon's Thursday Night Football later on tonight between the
Buccaneers and the Falcons. So I got to ask the question,
what the hell is going on with Kyle Pitts.

Speaker 7 (25:57):
Yeah, well, I think there's a lot going on. Kyle
pitts knee injury a couple of years ago lingered longer
than anybody would have liked. He was determined to play
seventeen games last year, which I'm not sure helped him.
And you know, now, I think, you know, you're looking
at a guy who you know, we're all looking at
for the context of okay, like he was a fourth

(26:18):
overall pick.

Speaker 6 (26:19):
Well, I mean, like he hasn't proven to be that
like level of player yet.

Speaker 7 (26:25):
He was good as a rookie, really good as a rookie,
but they used it more as a matchup guy. And
if he's not running the way that he used to run,
then like what is he? You know, and you have
to like accommodate him. That's the other things, Like you
can't just play him as like an inline tight end.
So you know, I like they have hope for him.

Speaker 6 (26:47):
You know that he's going to start playing.

Speaker 7 (26:48):
Faster, and like I don't think the needs as much
of a concern as it was last year, but it
certainly did send a lot of things sideways. And so
you know where this goes from here. I think it's
sort of up to Kyle Pitts, you know. And I
would say this, like he's going to have to earn
his playing time going forward, Like I don't think it's
a sure thing that like when they get when it

(27:09):
gets the nut cut in time and it's no, I'm
pritt in December and they got to put their best
eleven out there, Like Kyle pitt is going to have
to prove that he's one of the best eleven, you know,
And you know, it's just I think a piece of
of of who he is as a player now is
that you do have to accommodate him in certain ways
because he's not a traditional tight end, and so you know,

(27:32):
then it becomes who do you take off the field,
you know, Rariy McLeod's played well for them, Darnell Mooney
has played well from We're not even talking about.

Speaker 6 (27:39):
Drake London, you know.

Speaker 7 (27:40):
So I just it's like sort of a complicated situation
that they hope that Kyle Pitts can kind of over
the next couple of months get more comfortable in Zach
Robinson's offense and prove himself being one of those best
eleven Albert.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Let's say, Mantasy South just curious, you know, Andy Dalton's
going to spark to the Carolina Panthers offense and sounds
still still sitting there as the backup. Is there a
market for him before the trade deadline the season? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (28:06):
I think I think there would be a market for him.
I just don't think if you're the Panthers, you pull
the plug this quick. Like in other words, Brady, like,
where is the where is the middle ground right between
the Panthers being comfortable pulling the plug on somebody that
they invested so much in, you know, the two first
round picks DJ Moore in that trade, right.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
And then like.

Speaker 7 (28:32):
It's still being a value for another team, right, like
like what the Cowboys gave up for for for Trey Lance,
Like it was like a fourth round pick, right, Like,
let's say somebody comes and offers David Tepper, Dan Morgan,
you know, Brent Tillis and Dave Canalis a fourth round
pick for Bryce Young. That's not worth pulling the plug
on on Bryce Young for is it?

Speaker 6 (28:53):
Like?

Speaker 7 (28:53):
I don't think so so and and base.

Speaker 6 (28:56):
And how he's played. I don't know that his value
is much higher than that, So I don't know.

Speaker 7 (29:00):
Where the middle ground is. Like, I think you would
have a market for sure. I think there'd be teams
that would be they would want to come bring him
into their program.

Speaker 6 (29:07):
And try to develop.

Speaker 7 (29:08):
Him and and and have him as like, you know,
kind of like a futures player for them. I just
don't know that the price tag to go and get
a guy like that is going to match with what
the Panthers would need to pull the plug on such
a heavy investments they made in the guy.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Get him on x at.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist for the MMQB.
He'll be on the coverage for Amazon's Thursday Night Football
on Prime between the Bucks and the Falcons later on AB.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
Thanks so much, We'll do it again.

Speaker 6 (29:37):
All right, Thanks guys, have a good one.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Thanks Al.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
All right, it is two Pros and Here on Fox
Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Bradys Jonas Knox.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
With you fellows. That was my radio voice.

Speaker 8 (29:49):
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Speaker 3 (30:00):
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So we're gonna be back on the air, same time,
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Speaker 5 (30:14):
We can't wake up a little later before we closed
up shop.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
On to Zimbi, what are you going on? Yeah, Harrisburg
to Man. Probably will end up at the p Man's.
You know, I gotta go get my big fish every
time I'm in town.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
What up? P Mann.

Speaker 5 (30:32):
And they're and their non spicy wings?

Speaker 2 (30:35):
What a joke? Hey man? Relax, bruh, Relax.

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Speaker 2 (30:55):
Please might smell a little fun, sounds incredible, but.

Speaker 8 (30:58):
They're still good to find out what slap's.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Lee's all right? Lee?

Speaker 9 (31:06):
What do you got guys? An update from the world
of Hollywood. We know the slap herd around the world,
from Will Smith to Chris Rock. How about the fart
heard around the world. The director of Men in Black
says they had to evacuate the set for three hours
after Will Smith let win.

Speaker 10 (31:21):
Loose No, Yeah, for three hours.

Speaker 9 (31:25):
But they said, how long goes that movie made? Well,
they're saying this is uh. I think this is for
the new Men in Black coming up.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
I smelled something horrible on my flight yesterday. You know what,
It made me think about the story that we did
where you could get banned from Disney. I think they
should come up with that rule for flying. If you
don't excuse yourself to like a designated like flagellation area,
you could to get banned for fly.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah, then Lee's gonna run up an Amtrak bill because
I mean it won't be.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
A lot on flights. I get it.

Speaker 10 (32:00):
Sorry, Lee, Yes, this was actually my fault.

Speaker 9 (32:03):
This was on the set of The First Men in
Black ninety seven, so that just now came out.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah, like what a loser who's holding onto a fart story?

Speaker 4 (32:12):
I mean, serious funk in your body? How believable is that?
It's It's not really believable. It's just three hours over
a fart.

Speaker 10 (32:24):
They probably just called lunch, you know, and have a
have a.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Long sounds like a Hollywood thing. Lay some of your
into your pal.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
Yeah, I got, I always got Gosh, Will Smith, just
let one go.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Let's go to line.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
Wait, I got news for you.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
With all the stuff that's come out about Hollywood and
behind the scenes lately, like that's the last of their problems,
you Will Smith cutting a fart, which, Hey, you know
what now that you go back and listen to that
Cat Williams interview with Shannony, Yeah boy, he sure.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
You're called this shot?

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Uh? Yes, and he did not miss.

Speaker 9 (33:02):
Oh guys, I was dropping off my mom at a
hotel yesterday.

Speaker 10 (33:08):
She she's ready for a trip to go to New
York City.

Speaker 9 (33:11):
Anyway, she's a very hoity toity hotel and I'm helping
her get set up, and she starts digging around in
the mini bar. She doesn't realize it's one of those
motion sensor mini bars. She's moving stuff around. I turned
my back on her for a second. She's not used
to this kind of stuff. I'm like, dude, you're racking
up like thousand dollars. Bill, I'm going to show you
what she did to this place. Uh So, anyway, I

(33:32):
got the bell boy was there and he kind of
witnessed the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
What I say, care of it? It was on my
credit card.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Man called me, daddy Wow, called me.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (33:50):
Just you know, yo, daddy, in case you don't know
out there, like don't even breathe on the stuff or
else they'll charge.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Lease, Daddy Lee, what's your trick that you do when
it comes to the hotel mini bar? What's the trick
you told me about yesterday?

Speaker 9 (34:02):
Oh well, just so make sure I don't make that
mistake that she did, because you know, sometimes I'm stumbling
in there. So I'll put like bags in front of
the fridge, like you know that little literally that stool
you put your bag on.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
Yeah, that in front of the literally thought he was
going to say something like, I keep it on the censor.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
You're right, take the top offs.

Speaker 6 (34:23):
Like.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Just just to avoid the temptation that Lee uses a
piece of luggage as a security guard in front of
the mini fridge, so you.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
Don't put it up tang.

Speaker 9 (34:37):
Okay, what oh, not much else we got not time
for anymore. So anyway, go make some votes for fat
Bear of the Week. We got eight fifty six verse
five or four and Walker versus chunk.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Can you still send the link? Yeah, I send it
to you.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Send the link. I put it on our Twitter. All right,
all right, well I'm out of here.
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