November 14, 2024 • 41 mins
The guys wonder if Aaron Rodgers calls it quits after this season. Senior NFL Reporter, Albert Breer gives insights into organizations like the Bears and Jets. Arguments for MVP and Coach of the Year. Plus, fake bears and UFO’s in Lee’s Leftovers.
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Somebody who you know has got a few weeks left
in their season, potentially their career is the one and
only Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers spoke about the potential of
wanting to come back and play next season despite all
the struggles from this year, and had this to say.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
You've talked about wanting to play the honest year here
four tis the way this season gone for you or
as a team?
Speaker 6 (02:29):
Change stock felt at all?
Speaker 8 (02:30):
Not really, not not for the negative. No, I really
if you don't want to play as he doesn't twenty five,
I think so?
Speaker 9 (02:35):
Yeah, how do you feel about how you played this year?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Are you playing the way you thought you didn't play.
Speaker 9 (02:40):
Back from every day? No?
Speaker 8 (02:42):
I mean I'm not playing as well as I would
have liked to play, for sure. The beauty in this
game is it's a team game. The frustrating part is
that you know, if you if you're a great competitor,
you owed yourself to a standard and and it's not unrealistic.
And I haven't a recess standard this year.
Speaker 7 (03:01):
So do you believe Rogers comes back and his quarterbacking
for the Jets next year? Because even if he does,
my thought is they're still drafting a quarterback. They're gonna
be picking high enough that I can't imagine they would
go another year and not address the situation long term.
But I just wonder you're gonna have a new coach.
Do they want to deal with all that? It hasn't
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been smooth. I know DeVante Adams is going to be there.
Are they running this thing back for one final chapter
in Aaron Rodgers' career.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Don't you guys wonder though, if that factors into his decision.
I mean, there's a lot of things that are up
in the air. Who's going to be their head coach?
If they come to him and they say we're going
to draft a quarterback to a venture replace.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
You, there's that thought too, right.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
You know, maybe that deturs him from wanting to come back,
because if he's playing the way he is now, next year,
whoever they draft, people are gonna be clamoring for him,
And he's probably thinking to myself, like, do I really
want to deal with that?
Speaker 6 (04:02):
I mean, I'm a first ballot Hall of Famer and
this is how I'm gonna go out.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
So I don't know, it's I think he'll come back
because I don't think he wants the season end the
way this one seems like it's going to. I mean,
even if they won out, I'm not sure they would
make the playoffs. So that's the tough part is there's
still so much football left to be played. The topic
is probably a better conversation like four weeks when we
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have a more definitive answer of where they're at or
maybe just a week from now, they lose in this week,
But those have to be some of the factors. It's
got to be about who's the head coach. Are you
gonna draft one it? If you do, are you being
frank with me upfront about it, what's the plan for that?
And does you want to have to deal with that
heading into twenty twenty five possibly his last year.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yeah, I think it's about everything else outside of Aaron
Rodgers in this scenario, Like when when I think a
major point, a good point is how do they finish
shout this season? Well, I think a lot of those players.
If you're really looking at this team and how serious
in nature the situation is for the Jets to win,
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they would have they should have been thinking about how
important it was to win before you got to the
point of now looking at how important it is to win,
and meaning that to get to three wins over the
course of nine games, I believe it's nine games. What
they're three and six? I believe maybe three and six, right,
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three and six maybe. Anyway, the point is that they've
they've lost at such a rapid clip. Three and seven,
three and seven, Okay, they they've lost that such a
rapid clip at this point. The sad thing about all
of this is you'll find that they'll lose some of
these games that they weren't even supposed to lose because
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some of these guys are their minds are wondering their
self preservation, guys don't want to get hurt, whatever it
may be, and they'll mess around and they'll lose some
of these games that they shouldn't lose, like like say,
for instance, losing too you know, I don't know, like say,
I don't know, could something like a Jacksonville Jaguire game
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could sneak up on them? You know, I really do
look at it from the standpoint of if if we're
basing it off of how they finished this season, and
I don't believe they're going to finish with more Again,
I capped them off at nine, y'all win a little lower,
go figure. I capped them off at nine. I wouldn't
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be surprised if they only win two or three more games.
So if they're at six seven wins for the season,
they're definitely bringing in a new head coach. Now the
question becomes, what, like Q, you probably noticed, what is
the implications of releasing Aaron Rodgers, because I seriously doubt
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that there's a tremend this amount of trade value for
what it would take to get Aaron Rodgers through a trade.
I would rather wait and see if they releasing.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
He's got a no trade clause, so even if someone
came out, he would have to agreegree to it, which yeah,
I think in that case he'd probably rather rech.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
What is the hit against their cap is it? Is
it a significant hit?
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:21):
The Jets are gonna have to carry a dead cap
hit of over sixty six million.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
That's high.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
So that's but that's regardless of if there's a trade scenario.
That wouldn't really transition over. He only carries a seventeen
a little over seventeen million dollar cap hit for next
excuse me a little, okay, reading the wrong year. It's
a forty nine million dollar dead cap hit next year. Okay,
his cap hit if someone was to trade for him
and he agreed to it, in that instance, it would
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be about a little over twenty three million, about twenty
three and a half.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Out of half. They're going to try to trade him,
they're going to.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Try to trade the case because again because they can try.
But like he can just say, well, I'm going to
retire then, and now you don't have him, You don't
get an asset back for him, and you're still eating
a dead cap.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
You gotta pay him or do you it's just did
cap because what he's not they've already guaranteed that money
stoning those money stone.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
Yes, they've either paid it out through like a signing bone.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
He doesn't play.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Uh yeah, he was guaranteed seventy five million at signing.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
I don't try to look for the signing bonus numbers.
I have to go back and look through this.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
But man, there's a lot of trapping going on. Let
me tell you something. God bless all of you quarterbacks,
because y'all out here trapping like this is what you
call trapping. What Deshaun Watson did, trapping what sounds like
from Aaron Rodgers trapping, Dak Prescott his latest contract, trapping
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Like there's a lot of trapping going on out here,
Trevor Lawrence trapping. I mean, all I would say is this,
if that's the if that's the scenario that plays out,
is that you're stuck with Aaron Rodgers, which is crazy
to say, at this point, if you're stuck with Aaron Rodgers,
I'm not taking the New York Jets coaching job. I'm
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not doing it because all you're doing is rolling the
dice on If this man plays well, then I have
a tap bit I survived the year. I just don't
unless he's a close friend of Aaron Rodgers. I just
don't see a quality coach wanting to take that job
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under these circumstances, which means it's more about the team
and the Jets and how they want to handle this
scenario versus Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 7 (09:40):
Yeah, but if you're going quarterback early in the draft,
if they're picking in the top five, let's say, or
they're picking in the top ten, you're most likely going
to end up with a quarterback there.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Like, it's not the.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
Worst situation in the world to have Rogers be the
veteran ahead of that young.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
I think if you know Aaron Rodgers, I do not
think that it's a healthy situation, knowing his influence over
Woody Johnson in that scenario, I do not think it's
a healthy situation for a coach to have a fair
opportunity to have success.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
I think Rogers understands that he's lost all ability to just.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Dictate everything at his I don't think so.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
I think he's I think he's more realistic at this point,
I really do. I think he looks at it and goes, yeah,
so I've got one year left. I'm going to be
a great mentor to this guy. Like I was for
Jordan Love and like you know, Brett Favre was. He
didn't like that. He didn't like the fact that Jordan Love.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
He didn't like the fact that they ever brought in
any quarterbacks while he was there. He didn't like it.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Heah, But this is a different time, like this is
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
I also think there's an element, and because because Ben
Roethlisberger felt the same.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Remember when they drafted was it Mason.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
And he called into a weekend sports show in Pittsburgh
to complain about.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
It, Because at that point in their career, there's there's
still playing a high level. Rodgers was still winning MVPs,
and and yet instead of drafting to support him, they
drafted to replace him. So of course that'll tick you off.
It looks maybe he feels different now at this point
time in his career. But I think you can to
your point, I think you can make the case that
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because of how this year is gone, like, they need
more help than ever. I mean, and they've obviously have
tried to Levante Adams.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
They're going to get he's They're going to look at
it as get him more help versus get him his replacement.
His replacement is not his help, not in his mind.
He's not going to interpret that as well and help.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
The other thing is is you're assuming they're in a
position to take who is something they feel really good
about a quarterback? I mean outside of Shador Sanders. Yeah,
it starts to kind of drop off with how some
of the guys have played. Now cam Ward's up there,
but as I said before, some people will feel like, oh,
is he you know, big enough to a stand you know,
seventeen games, YadA, YadA, YadA, once we get to that
time of the year. I'm just telling you now. You
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can shoot the messenger all you want, but these are
some of the things that I see and this is
how this works. Have been through the process, this is
where it's going. So they're going to start to look
at Carson Beck, for example, if he declares and comes
out and they're going to say, you know, poor decisions,
some bad games. He's not played up to the level
that he did the second half of last year where
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people started look at him as potentially the number one
overall quarterback, and in particular the last three four games
it's been bad, bad, I mean, this is some really
poor performances. Now he hasn't gotten help and the old
lines was a mess in particular last week, but still
that's going to hurt him. You know, cam wore have
talked about the size, but also there's and this is
what one scale said to me. They said, well, we
don't feel like he plays within the confines of the
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offense you have to in the NFL to succeed, and
that's true, but you also have to have that special
ability to create and make plays, which he does. And
I also feel like his poise and composure in so
many tight situations like we've seen this year have led
him to have success and a comebacks wins versus col
and Virginia Tec and others. So you know, I'm a
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big fan cam Ward. I don't see it the same
way other people do, but those are just some of
the conversations about it. So the question then becomes if
you are the Jets, are you just gonna take a quarterback?
To take a quarterback if you don't really feel that
good about it? You know, you might say, let's go
take a guy we know can start player for the future,
and then we can, you know, look to take a
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quarterback where we feel like we need one, because we
don't feel like we need one right now. Man, I
think that's a very likely scenario for the Jets.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
And what's crazy is how do you come away feeling
positive that that's how you should feel with the way
this team is playing currently, you know, and then you
gotta think like you're wasting valuable time because this now
will be what year four for guys like sos Gardner.
There's guys that are You're probably going to want to
restructure their contracts at some point, like you're not going
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to be able to hold this amount of talent on
one roster too much longer. I just thought, I don't
see it that way. I mean, you're wasting time.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
I just think to have this discussion, your hand up, like,
because to have this discussion and not bring up the
fact that Greg's are line ruined this year for the
New York jets I think is unfair to all parties involved.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
Okay, it's something.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Two different conversations before and after Greg's are lined.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
They still have lost this will this will come down
to this because there's nothing. I mean, maybe they could
restructure a little bit of Roger's capit to reduce the
twenty three and a half million if they feel like
he's the guy next year and there and they're all
in for one more year. Like I think one of
the more likely scenarios is Jeff Albright ends up being
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the head coach into next year. They kind of keep
things as is. He could try to go all in
one more year and then at that point they break
down rebuild. I could be one hundred percent wrong, but
they're gonna have thirty four million in cap space. That's
not including whatever additional cap savings they could potentially have
or any restructurings that lead to that. So to your
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point about Sauce Garden or some the others, they could
restructure those contents or excuse me, extend them. But what
Johnson is gonna have to pay a decent amount of cash.
He's gonna have to pay out more cash to those guys,
So rightfully, so.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
They're very deserving of it.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
And I think you know, when you talk about you
know which guys are gonna be paying out or Rohich
guys you have to extend. Those are the guys who
are building blocks right like they're not going anywhere. There
should be jets for over ten years, whether it's Quinn Williams,
Sauce Garden, whoever. So that's the one good thing about
it is I think I think if you are paying
those guys, you feel good about having those guys in
your roster.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
With life after.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
Rogers, you know what this situation Well, I was just
gonna say, so basically, do what the Raiders are probably
gonna do.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
You keep ap for another year after he's the interim.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Guy, and then you just blow everything out and make
some changes after this.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
That isn't what's happened.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
Geez well, I'm just saying that's probably what's gonna happen.
You know, it's this situation.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
This, this is what This situation in New York feels
like Lee, you were there with me. The situation feels
like you're at the table and when you brought Aaron
Rodgers in, you were up like felt good about it.
You were winning. You made a great decision. This is
going to change your outcomes. Everything, everything is made right,
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and then you start to see losses. You start to
see things not go the way that you thought they
were going to go right. But you're looking at how
much you have, You're looking at what you could when
you're looking at the possibilities, And what did I keep doing? Lee?
What'd you keep doing? Kept on playing? Kept on playing?
That's what this situation reminds me of. Woody Johnson has
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a situation where he's sitting at the table. He should
pick his chips up and effing run away from the table,
but he's faced with the idea of you know, what
kept me at that table is the potential and the
possibilities of knowing that this is a fifty to fifty proposition,
and by a stroke up maybe fate, a stroke of luck,
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me staying in there one more hand changes my my outcomes.
It changes everything about what this moment in time represents.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
You know what else? Keep shit the table?
Speaker 7 (17:11):
What when some somebody walks behind you as you're getting
ready to leave.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
What what cocktails? And then you have another one and
they just keep you there?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
No, get just more, Lee, We did drink a lot
that that day.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
Though you're smoking, guy, you're smoking cigars and we were
smoking in the morning.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Slept after the show with one note.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
It's uh, the Jets will have the second oldest roster
in the NFL next year, assuming Rogers does come back,
which obviously inflates that number.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Who's got the oldest?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (17:44):
The San Francisco forty nine ers?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
No kidding?
Speaker 6 (17:46):
Yeah, yeah, their average age is twenty eight years old.
Speaker 9 (17:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
This might be it for them too, might be hit
last year was it for them? Might be boys the men.
Although we come to the end of the road, we
have come.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
To the.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Room still lacked gol. We got alpha. Albert, he's gonna
talk about to stay.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I'm gonna let you take it all the way to
the break.
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morning right now, though, we welcome in Albert Breer, senior
NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB, also the
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star of Amazon's Thursday night football coverage. AB.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
What's happening? How you doing? All right?
Speaker 7 (19:13):
So let's start with the most noisy franchise in the
league this week, and that would go to the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
What the hell is going on there?
Speaker 7 (19:23):
Like it feels like everything is become unraveled over the
past couple of weeks, Like where did where are they
at with Caleb Williams and the reporting that's out there
that some veterans went to the coaching staff to have
him benched? What have you heard about that situation?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (19:40):
I mean I think right now it's a number of
different things going wrong at once. The scheme, you know,
where they were from a development standpoint with them, like
all of it, you know, and I think there was
you know, father. Like quite honestly, like I didn't see
on the staff for going back to January and February,
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they really didn't have anybody outside of Thomas Brown who
had worked with the rookie quarterback before and at least
one who's starting. And you know Thomas Brown's experiences one
year with Bryce Young which didn't go great last year.
So you know, I think just kind of digging through it,
talking to people there, talking to some of their opponents.
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You know, maybe he wasn't as developed as as they
had hoped coming into the pros. And then you know,
like some of the stuff they were doing with him
over the last over the last over the last couple
of months, it stopped working. And you know they were
trying to create layups for him by by by by
rolling them out and moving them around, and you know
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that was actually kind of curtailing his playmaking ability because
you know, cut off half the field, it makes it
easier for the defense attinion when you play them on
straight dropbacks. You know, like defenses could see the wheels
and his head turning. It just wasn't good all the
way around. And I don't know how much of that
falls the feed of Caleb. How much of that falls
to the feed of the coaches maybe not doing enough
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to meet him half halfway from from a scheme standpoint.
But you know, it looked pretty good until a few
weeks ago, and it's all really kind of come unraveled.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Since Albert we're just some of the New York Jets rogers.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
The potential of him coming back next year, how much
of it is a contingent upon him versus who they
hire his head coach. Does Jeff Albright have a chance
at getting this thing for another year even though they
obviously have not been able to win a bunch of games.
Speaker 9 (21:38):
I'm like, I think, like I would say, like the
way that one's trending is towards a complete and a
complete reset. There are a lot of people that I've
talked to that that feel like Woody Johnson is going
to debt and may the entire operation and start over again. Now,
Like part of that is, you know, if you look
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at the contracts with some of those guys, like Joe
Douglas is in the final year of his contract of
a six year deal that he did the way back
in twenty nineteen, you know, you look at like some
of the agent on the roster. That's there, you know.
So I like, what's what's a little less certain is
what's going to look like coming out of the year
where you know, are you going to hire a football
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zar first or are you going to hire a head
coach and then let what the head coach hire people?
Hire a head coach and build around the head coach
like that. I don't think that there's you know, real
answers on where that's going right now, but it does
feel like that things are trending towards a pretty pretty
thorough reset. Now can they do things to change that
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if they catch fire here over the next you know,
two months and seeking into the playoffs or at least
make it competitive and Aaron Rodgers society wants to come back. Sure,
you know that's that's still out there for him. But
I'd say, you know, where it stands right now, it
certainly looks like it's trending towards a you know, pretty
thorough reset there in twenty twenty five, What's what.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
The reset in Indianapolis? Why why the sudden change of
hard a being like all of a sudden, No, he's in,
he's in the meetings, he's he's present, he's he's become
such a great pro in like a matter of a
few days. What like, what what's the change of heart?
Speaker 9 (23:18):
I think I think there's a competing interest in that building,
and I think it's like sort of the now versus
you know, the future of the franchise and how much
stay invested in Anthony Richardson and you know, really like
I think the tiebreaker, you know, LeVar over the last
month has come down to what's beests for the team,
you know, and what they can sell to the locker room.
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And you know, I think a few weeks ago he
had gotten to the point where, you know, I think
what the players were looking at was, you know, Anthony
Richardson can't run the offense at a high level and
Joe Flackel has shown evidence that he could, and there
was a real gap there, right, So it's like how
much longer are you going to be able to sell
Anthony Richardson to the locker room when you know you've
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got Joe Flacco over here who looked like he could
get more out of Michael Pittman, out of Alec Pearce,
out of Jonathan Taylor, out of all the guys in
that locker room, and you know, over the last couple
of weeks, like now that's flipped, you know, and Flacco
didn't look very good on Sunday, and so now you're
back to well, if there isn't like a real gap
between the two, then you go with the younger guys.
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So I think it's really that simple. It's the best
way to do business. Maybe not, you know, but I
think for Shane Stike, and this is sort of boiled
down to you know, kind of judging this by what's
going on on the field. And again, like a couple
of weeks ago, I think there was a pretty significant
gap between between Flacco and Richardson, which sort of forced
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the coach's hand and put them in a position where
it was like, okay, like we got to play Joe
Flacco to give the rest of the guys out there
a chance. And you know, obviously now it looks like
that's flipped, where maybe Flacco has kind of come back
to mean and now you have a reason to play
Richardson because the Plato doesn't maybe provide you the answers
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that you thought he would.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
He is Albert Brier, Amazon NFL on Prime Insider senior
NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. How likely is it?
Speaker 7 (25:18):
And obviously you're going to be there with the Commanders
and the Eagles later on tonight for Amazon, But how
likely is it that Cliff Kingsbury is a one and
done offensive coordinator in Washington?
Speaker 9 (25:30):
I don't think what does that out there?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Well, no, I'm just saying meaning he's going to get
another opportunity.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
To be Oh.
Speaker 9 (25:36):
I was like, I was like, do you know something
I don't know?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
No, So he's done all right for himself.
Speaker 9 (25:42):
Yeah, I like, I obviously done a fantastic job there. Yeah,
I would say there's a possibility of it, Like I now,
I mean, like you know, how many jobs are open?
You know, like what sorts of situations are those? Like
I don't know that he's going to rush to go
to his next opportunity, but you know, I think you
(26:02):
certainly look at the job that he's done with Jaden
Daniels if you look back on like you know, they
were able to get to the playoffs, so Kyler Murray
in their third year together there, so he's been a
playoffs you know, head coach in the NFL, the experience
of the quarterbacks being able to marry, you know, like
what you're seeing at the college level with what works
in the pros, you know, even like just down to
(26:24):
the scheme stuff. Like I know, one of the reasons
why dan Quinn hired him was because he felt like
close offense was unique and hard to prepare for and
hard to deal with. You know. Now, it might not
be the most complex offense in the NFL, but it
does present problems that really don't exist with other teams.
And I think you're seeing that in Washington now. So
Close's got a lot going for him, no question, and
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my my feeling would be that he probably probably will
have a couple opportunities at least to interview and you
see where it goes from there.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Albert, I want to ask you, just at this point
the season, who do you give the MVP to. I
feel like, you know, Lamar Jackson to me, should be
the front runner. However, I feel like people sometimes get
fatigued when when his stats will be better than what
he had last year, but everyone tries to attributed to
some degree to the postseason success. What have you know,
it's a regular season award. Would you be fine? By
(27:19):
the way, are you being a voter for that? I'm
even sure if you are.
Speaker 10 (27:21):
I'm not a vote.
Speaker 9 (27:22):
No, I'm not a voter. But I think like Lamar
would probably have my vote right now. I do think
there are a number of good candidates, so like I
Lamar like to me, Lamar keeps evolving, you know what
I mean? Like, and Lamar keeps growing his game, and
I think like this year he may deserve it more
than he deserved it last year or in nineteen. And
(27:43):
you know, like that's based on just that word value.
You know, the Ravens have gone through a lot of change.
Sixty percent of his offensive line from last year's gone,
Like that's a lot of veteran infrastructure that they lost,
and Kevin Ziteletter, Morgan Moses, and John Simpson being gone.
So they're turning over, you know, like sixty percent of
his offensive line. They're breaking Derrick Henry in as a
(28:06):
new tailback. Now that's obviously become a big plus, but
that was an adjustment at the beginning too, you know.
And then defensively they lose Mike McDonald as their DC.
They're going with younger edge players Patrick Queen's being replaced
by Trent and Simpson, and there have been bumps on
that side of the ball, And so I think Lamar
has had to be better on a game to game
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basis for them to be as good as they are,
you know, Whereas like I think in the past, maybe
the teams he was playing on were a little bit
more complete. So yeah, I think Lamar absolutely deserves to
be the front runner for MVP. And I think you're
right that there's that fatigue thing. It's like the old
Michael Jordan thing, like he could have been the MVP
any year in the nineties, you know, but it was
(28:47):
like when do you actually give it to him? Sometimes
people are hesitant if they've already given the MVP to someone,
you know once, then you give to them twice, twice,
you give them to them three times, because you know,
there's and elevated status as someone gets when they're a
two times or a three time or four time MVP.
But he certainly deserves, deserves, deserves to be right there
(29:08):
at the top of the list, and I think Josh
Allen deserves to be there with him too, just you know,
based on again, like the attrition in Buffalo and you know,
no Steph Diggs, no Mitch Morris, now Michael High, no
Jordan Boyer, Notredavius White. You know, they're right there and
at seven and two and ready to bring the Chiefs
(29:29):
into to Buffalo for a game that could wind up
having a having weight on who winds up with the
number one seed. I think, you know, Josh Allens had
a pretty crazy year two So those two I think
would be at the top of the list. Big golf
deserves mentioned too. The only thing about golf is sort
of the imverse of that, right like where that there
was that one game, that Titans game where they had
(29:50):
nine net passing yards and forty two points. You know,
it's a Detroit team that is capable of winning so
many different ways. So Char's played incredible the five picks
last week now withstanding, but you know, like do you
grade that on a curve because he's playing for a
team that's so complete.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Let's stay in that lane right there. Maybe for my
last question in terms of getting that type of award,
I feel like, honestly, hands down, I think it's a
shame that success isn't rewarded for Coach.
Speaker 9 (30:21):
Of the Year.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I think I think Andy Reid has shown that he
should be the Coach of the Year this year by
the way he's been able to win in Kansas City,
the way that he has They just continue to do
what they do. But I will also say I love
the fact that I'm hearing Mike Tomlin being thrown out
there now after the switch to Russell Wilson. Me being
(30:45):
a Pittsburgh fan and a Tomlin fan, who do you think, like,
who right now do you think is the front runner
for that award?
Speaker 9 (30:54):
There are a lot of good candidates. Tomlin definitely deserves
I mean, I you know, like for what he's achieved
over the years, but this year in particular, and having
the stomach to go to Russell Wilson when he did,
when a lot of people, including people in his own building,
thought it was the wrong thing to do. He deserves
a lot of credit. I mean, you can't overlook Andy Reid.
(31:16):
That's another one of those, like, you know, career accomplishment things.
But like, I think he deserves to be in the mix. Campbell,
like you said, has done a great job. Kevin O'Connell
you know with Minnesota, like for having lost maybe like
the two I'd say maybe like maybe except for Justin Jefferson,
the two most important players in that franchise over the
last decade Kirk Cousins and daneil Hunter. And they're seven
(31:40):
and two and right in the mix with the Lions
in the NFC North. The one that I don't think
it's enough credit, that I think deserves it at some
point is Matt Lafleur in Green Bay. I just think,
like if you look at like everything that he's done
over the years and now he's never won it, right, Like,
but he coached Aaron Rodgers to two MVP Awards. He
managed that situation, you know, with Rogers in the front office,
(32:04):
which as we can see now, like isn't an easy thing.
And he retrofitted his offense for Rogers at the same
time he was developing Jordan Love behind him. And you know,
there were a couple of games this year where I mean,
like the two games at the beginning of the year
where where Jordan Love was out where the Packers rushed
for something like five hundred yards and you just think
(32:26):
about that, like, you take Jordan Love out, you put
Malik Willis in, and like, what's the other team going
to do? The other team's gonna stack the box and
try to stop the run, and they're going to try
to put the ball in Malik mil Willison's hands. Yet
somehow the Packers find a way to rush for five
hundred yards in those two teams. There's just like little
things like that that I really think with floor deserves
(32:48):
is due and we'll see what the record winds up being.
They're obviously behind the Vikings and the Lions in the
NFC North now, but he's another one that I think
is a good name for the.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Award, Albert Breer. Before I let you go, sorry to
bear the lead, but are you going to be at
Wrigley Field.
Speaker 9 (33:04):
For I am not, man, I am not. I think Brady,
you are supposed to at one point now you guys aren't.
Is that right? Yes?
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Which it's causing a big stir with the Ohio State
fans all these noon starts and everyone's blaming big noon kickoff.
Can I just make this PSA, our pregame show has
zero involvement with these star times for Ohio State will
really enter their team for that matter.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
That is a fox, that is a big ten, that
is a big twelve.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
You know, media rights deal Meetia rights partner CBS and NBC,
Like those are the players that make a decision on that.
Like Ohio State started the noon last week, we weren't there.
Ohio State starting at noon this week, We're not there.
Like we have nothing to do with that, Yet our
pregame show keeps taking the brunt of all this. I mean,
if you guys want to have thrown at Joel Klatt,
thrown at Joel Klatt, Yeah, but he's.
Speaker 9 (33:57):
Calling the game, like maybe he's get over to Joel Clad.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
I'm just saying we I hit.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
With Tortillas and Lubbick and me while they're like, yeah,
the big noon, f big noon, because these noon starts
were like, dude, we're not even in your state right now.
Speaker 9 (34:13):
I mean you got to say, like you've been in
the shoe for a night game though, and like, I
mean that is a angry, awesome atmosphere for for a
night game, and it just there would at least be
like once a year or once every couple of years
there would be a massive game there. There was a
couple of years ago when Notre Dames came in right like.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
And it just I mean it is, well, there's there's
two issues with that.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
The one is, you don't guys don't have that great
of a schedule this year. So who had that game
been Nebraska? I mean, I you is, I mean, it's
not like you thought. But by the way, just so
people understand, a lot of these schedules, like the white
out for Penn State was scheduled back in September. So
people want to act like they're they're gonna move around
shift around games. It's not easy to do that with
the new big big ten media, right, Stell, that's the
(34:58):
first thing. The second is you didn't think, I you
was going to be a night game deal for you
guys to start the season.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
No, No, okay, So like that's the hard part is
go talk to.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
NBC then, because they're the ones that are actually in
that primetime slot that if your Fox you want to
move a game.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
You have to deal with.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
So I'm not trying to like pass the buck, but
a lot of people don't understand the media writers do well.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
But again.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
He says, and so you don't know the behind the
scenes of how hard it is to try to work
with a partner, let alone too, that you have to
move around different games, those time slots, and with the conference.
So the interesting right for all the people that can plain,
it's like, well, like what's what's the alternative then if
you like talk to Ohio State, talk to the Big
ten that's who agreed.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
To this deal.
Speaker 9 (35:44):
I mean, for the record, yeah, for the record, Like
I didn't bring this up, Brady did. Like here's the
other thing I do. I do think part of it
is a result of like some things getting messed up
in the negotiation. If a guy who is not working
as a Big ten anymore, who may be working in
Chicago now.
Speaker 10 (36:05):
So I think, I mean he was the commissioner, right, yeah,
And I think that that like it even goes back
to do you guys, like you guys remember what happened
with Penn State Michigan Boulevard.
Speaker 9 (36:15):
You probably remember this, right, like what happened last year
where they negotiated something that like wasn't allowed like contractually
with Big ten teams. So they had to move Michigan
State Penn State to Ford Field because they were they
weren't they weren't allowed to like play night games like
after you know, daylight savings or whatever. So there were
(36:35):
all kinds of things screwed up in the television.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Deal and for sure, I mean, like like the reason why.
Speaker 9 (36:43):
I will I'll also say this, like I don't I
don't think Joel and gust would be averse to the
idea of calling Nebraska Ohio State at night, right, there's
got to.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Be of course, like everyone would would want to have
that atmosphere, that night game and all that. We'd love
be in a place where there's a night game. By
the way, we did that last year. We went to
Boulder last year when it was a night game. We
went to Notre Dame USC last year when it was
a night game.
Speaker 9 (37:08):
I will say this, like, I think one thing that
the NFL has done well is like over the last
few years they've broken up like the conference affiliations so
they can do more things creatively with the schedule, so
they're not hemmed in, you know what I mean, Like exactly,
I think the Big ten can take a page from
that book, from that playbook and saying, look, like, yes,
(37:29):
we signed the deals to do this, but like let's
just exercise some common sense here, Like let's look at it,
like why isn't Fox. How about for this one week
NBC you have the noon game and Fox you have
the primetime game, you know what I mean, Like, there's
got to be a creative way where everybody winds up
a winner, where you're doing those things for the good
of the schools, for the good of the conference, and
(37:50):
for the good of the networks. There's got to be
a way to do.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
That, you'd hope.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
So, And by the way, the last thing, quickly, we're
not in Wrigley this week because of permitting issues, the
cost of it, et cetera. Permitting issues with I guess
the city of Chicago, and is that right, yeah, which
goes to show.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
You so we have to break though out.
Speaker 11 (38:07):
But that's the biggest That's the thing is like how
good would that be for Northwestern for Chicago to have
you guys there and yet just figure it out, you know,
like just figure it out.
Speaker 9 (38:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (38:19):
Well, Ab, we appreciate it. We'll do it again next week.
I thank is Albert Breer joining us here on Fox
Sports Radio. Coming up next, we're going to close up
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Speaker 12 (39:23):
What do we got guys? Cool story out of California.
Four locals just down the road were are being arrested
and accused of insurance fraud after dressing up like a
bear and vandalizing their cars, one of them being a
Rolls Royce ghost, a couple of Mercedes and trying to
wrack up a couple hundred thousand dollars in past.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
This is amazing photo evidence or video evidence? Oh yeah, yeah,
how much do they actually look like a live bear?
Speaker 7 (39:50):
So it basically it looks like a bear with full
flexibility of his arms inside the car, and then you
show the bear claw marks and they look so fake.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
Due credit to these guys for a creativity, though, I mean,
there's something to be said for that. I don't know
who these guys are, and I'm not condoning I legal behavior,
but if they're trying to, you know, get some money
out of insurance companies, all right, more power to them,
all right, stake in insurance companies never want to pay
(40:23):
up when you.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
Need them to.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Those guys you should get.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
I hope, I hope they're able to get off the
hook for this one.
Speaker 12 (40:33):
They got like expert biologists to come in and say, yeah,
those kind of bears don't live in that area of California.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Oh my god, it's so good.
Speaker 12 (40:40):
You got to see the suit too, and they kept
the suit and the clause in their closet.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
So they came and got raided and they found it.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
By the way, could you imagine the investigation that goes
along with that because they make the claim and then
insurance company reaches out.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
They're like, yeah, we think these guys might addressed up.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
As as a bear and like broke into their own
car to total these things and get money out of there.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
Like come on, yeah, come on, they're like no, seriously,
go search their house and you.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Got to see this railed videos, or.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
If the girlfriend like was like no, no, no, no,
we're into we're into kind of dressing up in costumes
like this.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Yeah he supposed to player, got any porge, Damn, it's
gonna be a wolf.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Next, I'll up and pop and blow your car down.
I'll blow something down.
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We're gonna have more on that with Albert Breer. Fun matchup,
fun game. We got the Commanders and the Eagles taking
taking place later on. That was part of Quinn Wins,
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which you can hear if you listen back on the podcast.
Somebody who you know has got a few weeks left
in their season, potentially their career is the one and
only Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers spoke about the potential of
wanting to come back and play next season despite all
the struggles from this year, and had this to say.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
You've talked about wanting to play the honest year here
four tis the way this season gone for you or
as a team?
Speaker 6 (02:29):
Change stock felt at all?
Speaker 8 (02:30):
Not really, not not for the negative. No, I really
if you don't want to play as he doesn't twenty five,
I think so?
Speaker 9 (02:35):
Yeah, how do you feel about how you played this year?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Are you playing the way you thought you didn't play.
Speaker 9 (02:40):
Back from every day? No?
Speaker 8 (02:42):
I mean I'm not playing as well as I would
have liked to play, for sure. The beauty in this
game is it's a team game. The frustrating part is
that you know, if you if you're a great competitor,
you owed yourself to a standard and and it's not unrealistic.
And I haven't a recess standard this year.
Speaker 7 (03:01):
So do you believe Rogers comes back and his quarterbacking
for the Jets next year? Because even if he does,
my thought is they're still drafting a quarterback. They're gonna
be picking high enough that I can't imagine they would
go another year and not address the situation long term.
But I just wonder you're gonna have a new coach.
Do they want to deal with all that? It hasn't
(03:23):
been smooth. I know DeVante Adams is going to be there.
Are they running this thing back for one final chapter
in Aaron Rodgers' career.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Don't you guys wonder though, if that factors into his decision.
I mean, there's a lot of things that are up
in the air. Who's going to be their head coach?
If they come to him and they say we're going
to draft a quarterback to a venture replace.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
You, there's that thought too, right.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
You know, maybe that deturs him from wanting to come back,
because if he's playing the way he is now, next year,
whoever they draft, people are gonna be clamoring for him,
And he's probably thinking to myself, like, do I really
want to deal with that?
Speaker 6 (04:02):
I mean, I'm a first ballot Hall of Famer and
this is how I'm gonna go out.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
So I don't know, it's I think he'll come back
because I don't think he wants the season end the
way this one seems like it's going to. I mean,
even if they won out, I'm not sure they would
make the playoffs. So that's the tough part is there's
still so much football left to be played. The topic
is probably a better conversation like four weeks when we
(04:29):
have a more definitive answer of where they're at or
maybe just a week from now, they lose in this week,
But those have to be some of the factors. It's
got to be about who's the head coach. Are you
gonna draft one it? If you do, are you being
frank with me upfront about it, what's the plan for that?
And does you want to have to deal with that
heading into twenty twenty five possibly his last year.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yeah, I think it's about everything else outside of Aaron
Rodgers in this scenario, Like when when I think a
major point, a good point is how do they finish
shout this season? Well, I think a lot of those players.
If you're really looking at this team and how serious
in nature the situation is for the Jets to win,
(05:11):
they would have they should have been thinking about how
important it was to win before you got to the
point of now looking at how important it is to win,
and meaning that to get to three wins over the
course of nine games, I believe it's nine games. What
they're three and six? I believe maybe three and six, right,
(05:32):
three and six maybe. Anyway, the point is that they've
they've lost at such a rapid clip. Three and seven,
three and seven, Okay, they they've lost that such a
rapid clip at this point. The sad thing about all
of this is you'll find that they'll lose some of
these games that they weren't even supposed to lose because
(05:54):
some of these guys are their minds are wondering their
self preservation, guys don't want to get hurt, whatever it
may be, and they'll mess around and they'll lose some
of these games that they shouldn't lose, like like say,
for instance, losing too you know, I don't know, like say,
I don't know, could something like a Jacksonville Jaguire game
(06:17):
could sneak up on them? You know, I really do
look at it from the standpoint of if if we're
basing it off of how they finished this season, and
I don't believe they're going to finish with more Again,
I capped them off at nine, y'all win a little lower,
go figure. I capped them off at nine. I wouldn't
(06:38):
be surprised if they only win two or three more games.
So if they're at six seven wins for the season,
they're definitely bringing in a new head coach. Now the
question becomes, what, like Q, you probably noticed, what is
the implications of releasing Aaron Rodgers, because I seriously doubt
(06:59):
that there's a tremend this amount of trade value for
what it would take to get Aaron Rodgers through a trade.
I would rather wait and see if they releasing.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
He's got a no trade clause, so even if someone
came out, he would have to agreegree to it, which yeah,
I think in that case he'd probably rather rech.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
What is the hit against their cap is it? Is
it a significant hit?
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:21):
The Jets are gonna have to carry a dead cap
hit of over sixty six million.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
That's high.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
So that's but that's regardless of if there's a trade scenario.
That wouldn't really transition over. He only carries a seventeen
a little over seventeen million dollar cap hit for next
excuse me a little, okay, reading the wrong year. It's
a forty nine million dollar dead cap hit next year. Okay,
his cap hit if someone was to trade for him
and he agreed to it, in that instance, it would
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be about a little over twenty three million, about twenty
three and a half.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
Out of half. They're going to try to trade him,
they're going to.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Try to trade the case because again because they can try.
But like he can just say, well, I'm going to
retire then, and now you don't have him, You don't
get an asset back for him, and you're still eating
a dead cap.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
You gotta pay him or do you it's just did
cap because what he's not they've already guaranteed that money
stoning those money stone.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
Yes, they've either paid it out through like a signing bone.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
He doesn't play.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Uh yeah, he was guaranteed seventy five million at signing.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
I don't try to look for the signing bonus numbers.
I have to go back and look through this.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
But man, there's a lot of trapping going on. Let
me tell you something. God bless all of you quarterbacks,
because y'all out here trapping like this is what you
call trapping. What Deshaun Watson did, trapping what sounds like
from Aaron Rodgers trapping, Dak Prescott his latest contract, trapping
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Like there's a lot of trapping going on out here,
Trevor Lawrence trapping. I mean, all I would say is this,
if that's the if that's the scenario that plays out,
is that you're stuck with Aaron Rodgers, which is crazy
to say, at this point, if you're stuck with Aaron Rodgers,
I'm not taking the New York Jets coaching job. I'm
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not doing it because all you're doing is rolling the
dice on If this man plays well, then I have
a tap bit I survived the year. I just don't
unless he's a close friend of Aaron Rodgers. I just
don't see a quality coach wanting to take that job
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under these circumstances, which means it's more about the team
and the Jets and how they want to handle this
scenario versus Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 7 (09:40):
Yeah, but if you're going quarterback early in the draft,
if they're picking in the top five, let's say, or
they're picking in the top ten, you're most likely going
to end up with a quarterback there.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Like, it's not the.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
Worst situation in the world to have Rogers be the
veteran ahead of that young.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
I think if you know Aaron Rodgers, I do not
think that it's a healthy situation, knowing his influence over
Woody Johnson in that scenario, I do not think it's
a healthy situation for a coach to have a fair
opportunity to have success.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
I think Rogers understands that he's lost all ability to just.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Dictate everything at his I don't think so.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
I think he's I think he's more realistic at this point,
I really do. I think he looks at it and goes, yeah,
so I've got one year left. I'm going to be
a great mentor to this guy. Like I was for
Jordan Love and like you know, Brett Favre was. He
didn't like that. He didn't like the fact that Jordan Love.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
He didn't like the fact that they ever brought in
any quarterbacks while he was there. He didn't like it.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Heah, But this is a different time, like this is
Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
I also think there's an element, and because because Ben
Roethlisberger felt the same.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Remember when they drafted was it Mason.
Speaker 7 (10:50):
And he called into a weekend sports show in Pittsburgh
to complain about.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
It, Because at that point in their career, there's there's
still playing a high level. Rodgers was still winning MVPs,
and and yet instead of drafting to support him, they
drafted to replace him. So of course that'll tick you off.
It looks maybe he feels different now at this point
time in his career. But I think you can to
your point, I think you can make the case that
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because of how this year is gone, like, they need
more help than ever. I mean, and they've obviously have
tried to Levante Adams.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
They're going to get he's They're going to look at
it as get him more help versus get him his replacement.
His replacement is not his help, not in his mind.
He's not going to interpret that as well and help.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
The other thing is is you're assuming they're in a
position to take who is something they feel really good
about a quarterback? I mean outside of Shador Sanders. Yeah,
it starts to kind of drop off with how some
of the guys have played. Now cam Ward's up there,
but as I said before, some people will feel like, oh,
is he you know, big enough to a stand you know,
seventeen games, YadA, YadA, YadA, once we get to that
time of the year. I'm just telling you now. You
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can shoot the messenger all you want, but these are
some of the things that I see and this is
how this works. Have been through the process, this is
where it's going. So they're going to start to look
at Carson Beck, for example, if he declares and comes
out and they're going to say, you know, poor decisions,
some bad games. He's not played up to the level
that he did the second half of last year where
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people started look at him as potentially the number one
overall quarterback, and in particular the last three four games
it's been bad, bad, I mean, this is some really
poor performances. Now he hasn't gotten help and the old
lines was a mess in particular last week, but still
that's going to hurt him. You know, cam wore have
talked about the size, but also there's and this is
what one scale said to me. They said, well, we
don't feel like he plays within the confines of the
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offense you have to in the NFL to succeed, and
that's true, but you also have to have that special
ability to create and make plays, which he does. And
I also feel like his poise and composure in so
many tight situations like we've seen this year have led
him to have success and a comebacks wins versus col
and Virginia Tec and others. So you know, I'm a
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big fan cam Ward. I don't see it the same
way other people do, but those are just some of
the conversations about it. So the question then becomes if
you are the Jets, are you just gonna take a quarterback?
To take a quarterback if you don't really feel that
good about it? You know, you might say, let's go
take a guy we know can start player for the future,
and then we can, you know, look to take a
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quarterback where we feel like we need one, because we
don't feel like we need one right now. Man, I
think that's a very likely scenario for the Jets.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
And what's crazy is how do you come away feeling
positive that that's how you should feel with the way
this team is playing currently, you know, and then you
gotta think like you're wasting valuable time because this now
will be what year four for guys like sos Gardner.
There's guys that are You're probably going to want to
restructure their contracts at some point, like you're not going
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to be able to hold this amount of talent on
one roster too much longer. I just thought, I don't
see it that way. I mean, you're wasting time.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
I just think to have this discussion, your hand up, like,
because to have this discussion and not bring up the
fact that Greg's are line ruined this year for the
New York jets I think is unfair to all parties involved.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
Okay, it's something.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Two different conversations before and after Greg's are lined.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
They still have lost this will this will come down
to this because there's nothing. I mean, maybe they could
restructure a little bit of Roger's capit to reduce the
twenty three and a half million if they feel like
he's the guy next year and there and they're all
in for one more year. Like I think one of
the more likely scenarios is Jeff Albright ends up being
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the head coach into next year. They kind of keep
things as is. He could try to go all in
one more year and then at that point they break
down rebuild. I could be one hundred percent wrong, but
they're gonna have thirty four million in cap space. That's
not including whatever additional cap savings they could potentially have
or any restructurings that lead to that. So to your
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point about Sauce Garden or some the others, they could
restructure those contents or excuse me, extend them. But what
Johnson is gonna have to pay a decent amount of cash.
He's gonna have to pay out more cash to those guys,
So rightfully, so.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
They're very deserving of it.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
And I think you know, when you talk about you
know which guys are gonna be paying out or Rohich
guys you have to extend. Those are the guys who
are building blocks right like they're not going anywhere. There
should be jets for over ten years, whether it's Quinn Williams,
Sauce Garden, whoever. So that's the one good thing about
it is I think I think if you are paying
those guys, you feel good about having those guys in
your roster.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
With life after.
Speaker 7 (15:38):
Rogers, you know what this situation Well, I was just
gonna say, so basically, do what the Raiders are probably
gonna do.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
You keep ap for another year after he's the interim.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
Guy, and then you just blow everything out and make
some changes after this.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
That isn't what's happened.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
Geez well, I'm just saying that's probably what's gonna happen.
You know, it's this situation.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
This, this is what This situation in New York feels
like Lee, you were there with me. The situation feels
like you're at the table and when you brought Aaron
Rodgers in, you were up like felt good about it.
You were winning. You made a great decision. This is
going to change your outcomes. Everything, everything is made right,
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and then you start to see losses. You start to
see things not go the way that you thought they
were going to go right. But you're looking at how
much you have, You're looking at what you could when
you're looking at the possibilities, And what did I keep doing? Lee?
What'd you keep doing? Kept on playing? Kept on playing?
That's what this situation reminds me of. Woody Johnson has
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a situation where he's sitting at the table. He should
pick his chips up and effing run away from the table,
but he's faced with the idea of you know, what
kept me at that table is the potential and the
possibilities of knowing that this is a fifty to fifty proposition,
and by a stroke up maybe fate, a stroke of luck,
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me staying in there one more hand changes my my outcomes.
It changes everything about what this moment in time represents.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
You know what else? Keep shit the table?
Speaker 7 (17:11):
What when some somebody walks behind you as you're getting
ready to leave.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
What what cocktails? And then you have another one and
they just keep you there?
Speaker 4 (17:20):
No, get just more, Lee, We did drink a lot
that that day.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
Though you're smoking, guy, you're smoking cigars and we were
smoking in the morning.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Slept after the show with one note.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
It's uh, the Jets will have the second oldest roster
in the NFL next year, assuming Rogers does come back,
which obviously inflates that number.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Who's got the oldest?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (17:44):
The San Francisco forty nine ers?
Speaker 3 (17:45):
No kidding?
Speaker 6 (17:46):
Yeah, yeah, their average age is twenty eight years old.
Speaker 9 (17:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
This might be it for them too, might be hit
last year was it for them? Might be boys the men.
Although we come to the end of the road, we
have come.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
To the.
Speaker 6 (18:03):
Room still lacked gol. We got alpha. Albert, he's gonna
talk about to stay.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I'm gonna let you take it all the way to
the break.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
We'll be right back with Albert Breer. This is Fox
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have another edition of Lee's Leftovers here on a Thursday
morning right now, though, we welcome in Albert Breer, senior
NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB, also the
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star of Amazon's Thursday night football coverage. AB.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
What's happening? How you doing? All right?
Speaker 7 (19:13):
So let's start with the most noisy franchise in the
league this week, and that would go to the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
What the hell is going on there?
Speaker 7 (19:23):
Like it feels like everything is become unraveled over the
past couple of weeks, Like where did where are they
at with Caleb Williams and the reporting that's out there
that some veterans went to the coaching staff to have
him benched? What have you heard about that situation?
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (19:40):
I mean I think right now it's a number of
different things going wrong at once. The scheme, you know,
where they were from a development standpoint with them, like
all of it, you know, and I think there was
you know, father. Like quite honestly, like I didn't see
on the staff for going back to January and February,
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they really didn't have anybody outside of Thomas Brown who
had worked with the rookie quarterback before and at least
one who's starting. And you know Thomas Brown's experiences one
year with Bryce Young which didn't go great last year.
So you know, I think just kind of digging through it,
talking to people there, talking to some of their opponents.
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You know, maybe he wasn't as developed as as they
had hoped coming into the pros. And then you know,
like some of the stuff they were doing with him
over the last over the last over the last couple
of months, it stopped working. And you know they were
trying to create layups for him by by by by
rolling them out and moving them around, and you know
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that was actually kind of curtailing his playmaking ability because
you know, cut off half the field, it makes it
easier for the defense attinion when you play them on
straight dropbacks. You know, like defenses could see the wheels
and his head turning. It just wasn't good all the
way around. And I don't know how much of that
falls the feed of Caleb. How much of that falls
to the feed of the coaches maybe not doing enough
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to meet him half halfway from from a scheme standpoint.
But you know, it looked pretty good until a few
weeks ago, and it's all really kind of come unraveled.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Since Albert we're just some of the New York Jets rogers.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
The potential of him coming back next year, how much
of it is a contingent upon him versus who they
hire his head coach. Does Jeff Albright have a chance
at getting this thing for another year even though they
obviously have not been able to win a bunch of games.
Speaker 9 (21:38):
I'm like, I think, like I would say, like the
way that one's trending is towards a complete and a
complete reset. There are a lot of people that I've
talked to that that feel like Woody Johnson is going
to debt and may the entire operation and start over again. Now,
Like part of that is, you know, if you look
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at the contracts with some of those guys, like Joe
Douglas is in the final year of his contract of
a six year deal that he did the way back
in twenty nineteen, you know, you look at like some
of the agent on the roster. That's there, you know.
So I like, what's what's a little less certain is
what's going to look like coming out of the year
where you know, are you going to hire a football
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zar first or are you going to hire a head
coach and then let what the head coach hire people?
Hire a head coach and build around the head coach
like that. I don't think that there's you know, real
answers on where that's going right now, but it does
feel like that things are trending towards a pretty pretty
thorough reset. Now can they do things to change that
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if they catch fire here over the next you know,
two months and seeking into the playoffs or at least
make it competitive and Aaron Rodgers society wants to come back. Sure,
you know that's that's still out there for him. But
I'd say, you know, where it stands right now, it
certainly looks like it's trending towards a you know, pretty
thorough reset there in twenty twenty five, What's what.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
The reset in Indianapolis? Why why the sudden change of
hard a being like all of a sudden, No, he's in,
he's in the meetings, he's he's present, he's he's become
such a great pro in like a matter of a
few days. What like, what what's the change of heart?
Speaker 9 (23:18):
I think I think there's a competing interest in that building,
and I think it's like sort of the now versus
you know, the future of the franchise and how much
stay invested in Anthony Richardson and you know, really like
I think the tiebreaker, you know, LeVar over the last
month has come down to what's beests for the team,
you know, and what they can sell to the locker room.
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And you know, I think a few weeks ago he
had gotten to the point where, you know, I think
what the players were looking at was, you know, Anthony
Richardson can't run the offense at a high level and
Joe Flackel has shown evidence that he could, and there
was a real gap there, right, So it's like how
much longer are you going to be able to sell
Anthony Richardson to the locker room when you know you've
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got Joe Flacco over here who looked like he could
get more out of Michael Pittman, out of Alec Pearce,
out of Jonathan Taylor, out of all the guys in
that locker room, and you know, over the last couple
of weeks, like now that's flipped, you know, and Flacco
didn't look very good on Sunday, and so now you're
back to well, if there isn't like a real gap
between the two, then you go with the younger guys.
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So I think it's really that simple. It's the best
way to do business. Maybe not, you know, but I
think for Shane Stike, and this is sort of boiled
down to you know, kind of judging this by what's
going on on the field. And again, like a couple
of weeks ago, I think there was a pretty significant
gap between between Flacco and Richardson, which sort of forced
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the coach's hand and put them in a position where
it was like, okay, like we got to play Joe
Flacco to give the rest of the guys out there
a chance. And you know, obviously now it looks like
that's flipped, where maybe Flacco has kind of come back
to mean and now you have a reason to play
Richardson because the Plato doesn't maybe provide you the answers
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that you thought he would.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
He is Albert Brier, Amazon NFL on Prime Insider senior
NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. How likely is it?
Speaker 7 (25:18):
And obviously you're going to be there with the Commanders
and the Eagles later on tonight for Amazon, But how
likely is it that Cliff Kingsbury is a one and
done offensive coordinator in Washington?
Speaker 9 (25:30):
I don't think what does that out there?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Well, no, I'm just saying meaning he's going to get
another opportunity.
Speaker 7 (25:35):
To be Oh.
Speaker 9 (25:36):
I was like, I was like, do you know something
I don't know?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
No, So he's done all right for himself.
Speaker 9 (25:42):
Yeah, I like, I obviously done a fantastic job there. Yeah,
I would say there's a possibility of it, Like I now,
I mean, like you know, how many jobs are open?
You know, like what sorts of situations are those? Like
I don't know that he's going to rush to go
to his next opportunity, but you know, I think you
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certainly look at the job that he's done with Jaden
Daniels if you look back on like you know, they
were able to get to the playoffs, so Kyler Murray
in their third year together there, so he's been a
playoffs you know, head coach in the NFL, the experience
of the quarterbacks being able to marry, you know, like
what you're seeing at the college level with what works
in the pros, you know, even like just down to
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the scheme stuff. Like I know, one of the reasons
why dan Quinn hired him was because he felt like
close offense was unique and hard to prepare for and
hard to deal with. You know. Now, it might not
be the most complex offense in the NFL, but it
does present problems that really don't exist with other teams.
And I think you're seeing that in Washington now. So
Close's got a lot going for him, no question, and
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my my feeling would be that he probably probably will
have a couple opportunities at least to interview and you
see where it goes from there.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Albert, I want to ask you, just at this point
the season, who do you give the MVP to. I
feel like, you know, Lamar Jackson to me, should be
the front runner. However, I feel like people sometimes get
fatigued when when his stats will be better than what
he had last year, but everyone tries to attributed to
some degree to the postseason success. What have you know,
it's a regular season award. Would you be fine? By
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the way, are you being a voter for that? I'm
even sure if you are.
Speaker 10 (27:21):
I'm not a vote.
Speaker 9 (27:22):
No, I'm not a voter. But I think like Lamar
would probably have my vote right now. I do think
there are a number of good candidates, so like I
Lamar like to me, Lamar keeps evolving, you know what
I mean? Like, and Lamar keeps growing his game, and
I think like this year he may deserve it more
than he deserved it last year or in nineteen. And
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you know, like that's based on just that word value.
You know, the Ravens have gone through a lot of change.
Sixty percent of his offensive line from last year's gone,
Like that's a lot of veteran infrastructure that they lost,
and Kevin Ziteletter, Morgan Moses, and John Simpson being gone.
So they're turning over, you know, like sixty percent of
his offensive line. They're breaking Derrick Henry in as a
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new tailback. Now that's obviously become a big plus, but
that was an adjustment at the beginning too, you know.
And then defensively they lose Mike McDonald as their DC.
They're going with younger edge players Patrick Queen's being replaced
by Trent and Simpson, and there have been bumps on
that side of the ball, And so I think Lamar
has had to be better on a game to game
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basis for them to be as good as they are,
you know, Whereas like I think in the past, maybe
the teams he was playing on were a little bit
more complete. So yeah, I think Lamar absolutely deserves to
be the front runner for MVP. And I think you're
right that there's that fatigue thing. It's like the old
Michael Jordan thing, like he could have been the MVP
any year in the nineties, you know, but it was
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like when do you actually give it to him? Sometimes
people are hesitant if they've already given the MVP to someone,
you know once, then you give to them twice, twice,
you give them to them three times, because you know,
there's and elevated status as someone gets when they're a
two times or a three time or four time MVP.
But he certainly deserves, deserves, deserves to be right there
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at the top of the list, and I think Josh
Allen deserves to be there with him too, just you know,
based on again, like the attrition in Buffalo and you know,
no Steph Diggs, no Mitch Morris, now Michael High, no
Jordan Boyer, Notredavius White. You know, they're right there and
at seven and two and ready to bring the Chiefs
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into to Buffalo for a game that could wind up
having a having weight on who winds up with the
number one seed. I think, you know, Josh Allens had
a pretty crazy year two So those two I think
would be at the top of the list. Big golf
deserves mentioned too. The only thing about golf is sort
of the imverse of that, right like where that there
was that one game, that Titans game where they had
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nine net passing yards and forty two points. You know,
it's a Detroit team that is capable of winning so
many different ways. So Char's played incredible the five picks
last week now withstanding, but you know, like do you
grade that on a curve because he's playing for a
team that's so complete.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
Let's stay in that lane right there. Maybe for my
last question in terms of getting that type of award,
I feel like, honestly, hands down, I think it's a
shame that success isn't rewarded for Coach.
Speaker 9 (30:21):
Of the Year.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
I think I think Andy Reid has shown that he
should be the Coach of the Year this year by
the way he's been able to win in Kansas City,
the way that he has They just continue to do
what they do. But I will also say I love
the fact that I'm hearing Mike Tomlin being thrown out
there now after the switch to Russell Wilson. Me being
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a Pittsburgh fan and a Tomlin fan, who do you think, like,
who right now do you think is the front runner
for that award?
Speaker 9 (30:54):
There are a lot of good candidates. Tomlin definitely deserves
I mean, I you know, like for what he's achieved
over the years, but this year in particular, and having
the stomach to go to Russell Wilson when he did,
when a lot of people, including people in his own building,
thought it was the wrong thing to do. He deserves
a lot of credit. I mean, you can't overlook Andy Reid.
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That's another one of those, like, you know, career accomplishment things.
But like, I think he deserves to be in the mix. Campbell,
like you said, has done a great job. Kevin O'Connell
you know with Minnesota, like for having lost maybe like
the two I'd say maybe like maybe except for Justin Jefferson,
the two most important players in that franchise over the
last decade Kirk Cousins and daneil Hunter. And they're seven
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and two and right in the mix with the Lions
in the NFC North. The one that I don't think
it's enough credit, that I think deserves it at some
point is Matt Lafleur in Green Bay. I just think,
like if you look at like everything that he's done
over the years and now he's never won it, right, Like,
but he coached Aaron Rodgers to two MVP Awards. He
managed that situation, you know, with Rogers in the front office,
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which as we can see now, like isn't an easy thing.
And he retrofitted his offense for Rogers at the same
time he was developing Jordan Love behind him. And you know,
there were a couple of games this year where I mean,
like the two games at the beginning of the year
where where Jordan Love was out where the Packers rushed
for something like five hundred yards and you just think
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about that, like, you take Jordan Love out, you put
Malik Willis in, and like, what's the other team going
to do? The other team's gonna stack the box and
try to stop the run, and they're going to try
to put the ball in Malik mil Willison's hands. Yet
somehow the Packers find a way to rush for five
hundred yards in those two teams. There's just like little
things like that that I really think with floor deserves
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is due and we'll see what the record winds up being.
They're obviously behind the Vikings and the Lions in the
NFC North now, but he's another one that I think
is a good name for the.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Award, Albert Breer. Before I let you go, sorry to
bear the lead, but are you going to be at
Wrigley Field.
Speaker 9 (33:04):
For I am not, man, I am not. I think Brady,
you are supposed to at one point now you guys aren't.
Is that right? Yes?
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Which it's causing a big stir with the Ohio State
fans all these noon starts and everyone's blaming big noon kickoff.
Can I just make this PSA, our pregame show has
zero involvement with these star times for Ohio State will
really enter their team for that matter.
Speaker 6 (33:32):
That is a fox, that is a big ten, that
is a big twelve.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
You know, media rights deal Meetia rights partner CBS and NBC,
Like those are the players that make a decision on that.
Like Ohio State started the noon last week, we weren't there.
Ohio State starting at noon this week, We're not there.
Like we have nothing to do with that, Yet our
pregame show keeps taking the brunt of all this. I mean,
if you guys want to have thrown at Joel Klatt,
thrown at Joel Klatt, Yeah, but he's.
Speaker 9 (33:57):
Calling the game, like maybe he's get over to Joel Clad.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
I'm just saying we I hit.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
With Tortillas and Lubbick and me while they're like, yeah,
the big noon, f big noon, because these noon starts
were like, dude, we're not even in your state right now.
Speaker 9 (34:13):
I mean you got to say, like you've been in
the shoe for a night game though, and like, I
mean that is a angry, awesome atmosphere for for a
night game, and it just there would at least be
like once a year or once every couple of years
there would be a massive game there. There was a
couple of years ago when Notre Dames came in right like.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
And it just I mean it is, well, there's there's
two issues with that.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
The one is, you don't guys don't have that great
of a schedule this year. So who had that game
been Nebraska? I mean, I you is, I mean, it's
not like you thought. But by the way, just so
people understand, a lot of these schedules, like the white
out for Penn State was scheduled back in September. So
people want to act like they're they're gonna move around
shift around games. It's not easy to do that with
the new big big ten media, right, Stell, that's the
(34:58):
first thing. The second is you didn't think, I you
was going to be a night game deal for you
guys to start the season.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
No, No, okay, So like that's the hard part is
go talk to.
Speaker 5 (35:07):
NBC then, because they're the ones that are actually in
that primetime slot that if your Fox you want to
move a game.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
You have to deal with.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
So I'm not trying to like pass the buck, but
a lot of people don't understand the media writers do well.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
But again.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
He says, and so you don't know the behind the
scenes of how hard it is to try to work
with a partner, let alone too, that you have to
move around different games, those time slots, and with the conference.
So the interesting right for all the people that can plain,
it's like, well, like what's what's the alternative then if
you like talk to Ohio State, talk to the Big
ten that's who agreed.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
To this deal.
Speaker 9 (35:44):
I mean, for the record, yeah, for the record, Like
I didn't bring this up, Brady did. Like here's the
other thing I do. I do think part of it
is a result of like some things getting messed up
in the negotiation. If a guy who is not working
as a Big ten anymore, who may be working in
Chicago now.
Speaker 10 (36:05):
So I think, I mean he was the commissioner, right, yeah,
And I think that that like it even goes back
to do you guys, like you guys remember what happened
with Penn State Michigan Boulevard.
Speaker 9 (36:15):
You probably remember this, right, like what happened last year
where they negotiated something that like wasn't allowed like contractually
with Big ten teams. So they had to move Michigan
State Penn State to Ford Field because they were they
weren't they weren't allowed to like play night games like
after you know, daylight savings or whatever. So there were
(36:35):
all kinds of things screwed up in the television.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Deal and for sure, I mean, like like the reason why.
Speaker 9 (36:43):
I will I'll also say this, like I don't I
don't think Joel and gust would be averse to the
idea of calling Nebraska Ohio State at night, right, there's
got to.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Be of course, like everyone would would want to have
that atmosphere, that night game and all that. We'd love
be in a place where there's a night game. By
the way, we did that last year. We went to
Boulder last year when it was a night game. We
went to Notre Dame USC last year when it was
a night game.
Speaker 9 (37:08):
I will say this, like, I think one thing that
the NFL has done well is like over the last
few years they've broken up like the conference affiliations so
they can do more things creatively with the schedule, so
they're not hemmed in, you know what I mean, Like exactly,
I think the Big ten can take a page from
that book, from that playbook and saying, look, like, yes,
(37:29):
we signed the deals to do this, but like let's
just exercise some common sense here, Like let's look at it,
like why isn't Fox. How about for this one week
NBC you have the noon game and Fox you have
the primetime game, you know what I mean, Like, there's
got to be a creative way where everybody winds up
a winner, where you're doing those things for the good
of the schools, for the good of the conference, and
(37:50):
for the good of the networks. There's got to be
a way to do.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
That, you'd hope.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
So, And by the way, the last thing, quickly, we're
not in Wrigley this week because of permitting issues, the
cost of it, et cetera. Permitting issues with I guess
the city of Chicago, and is that right, yeah, which
goes to show.
Speaker 6 (38:05):
You so we have to break though out.
Speaker 11 (38:07):
But that's the biggest That's the thing is like how
good would that be for Northwestern for Chicago to have
you guys there and yet just figure it out, you know,
like just figure it out.
Speaker 9 (38:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (38:19):
Well, Ab, we appreciate it. We'll do it again next week.
I thank is Albert Breer joining us here on Fox
Sports Radio. Coming up next, we're going to close up
shop with another edition of Lee's Leftovers right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
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Speaker 2 (39:12):
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they're still good. Time to find out what's lacks Lee's las?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
All right, the lap?
Speaker 12 (39:23):
What do we got guys? Cool story out of California.
Four locals just down the road were are being arrested
and accused of insurance fraud after dressing up like a
bear and vandalizing their cars, one of them being a
Rolls Royce ghost, a couple of Mercedes and trying to
wrack up a couple hundred thousand dollars in past.
Speaker 5 (39:43):
This is amazing photo evidence or video evidence? Oh yeah, yeah,
how much do they actually look like a live bear?
Speaker 7 (39:50):
So it basically it looks like a bear with full
flexibility of his arms inside the car, and then you
show the bear claw marks and they look so fake.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
Due credit to these guys for a creativity, though, I mean,
there's something to be said for that. I don't know
who these guys are, and I'm not condoning I legal behavior,
but if they're trying to, you know, get some money
out of insurance companies, all right, more power to them,
all right, stake in insurance companies never want to pay
(40:23):
up when you.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
Need them to.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Those guys you should get.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
I hope, I hope they're able to get off the
hook for this one.
Speaker 12 (40:33):
They got like expert biologists to come in and say, yeah,
those kind of bears don't live in that area of California.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Oh my god, it's so good.
Speaker 12 (40:40):
You got to see the suit too, and they kept
the suit and the clause in their closet.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
So they came and got raided and they found it.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
By the way, could you imagine the investigation that goes
along with that because they make the claim and then
insurance company reaches out.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
They're like, yeah, we think these guys might addressed up.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
As as a bear and like broke into their own
car to total these things and get money out of there.
Speaker 6 (41:03):
Like come on, yeah, come on, they're like no, seriously,
go search their house and you.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Got to see this railed videos, or.
Speaker 5 (41:10):
If the girlfriend like was like no, no, no, no,
we're into we're into kind of dressing up in costumes
like this.
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Yeah he supposed to player, got any porge, Damn, it's
gonna be a wolf.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Next, I'll up and pop and blow your car down.
I'll blow something down.
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