November 15, 2024 • 36 mins
Jayden Daniels and the Commanders are still formidable despite injuries and the loss to Philly on TNF. The Ravens and Steelers aims to be the game of the week despite Lamar’s struggles against Pittsburgh. Plus, Tyson on legacy and Lee’s Leftovers.
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So Week eleven in the NFL kicked off last night
in Philadelphia, and the Philadelphia Eagles get it done. Saquon
Barkley another great performance for them. Who the hell needs him?
The Giants are doing all right, so that's fine. Philadelphia
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Eagles get a big win, and so the Washington Commanders
have now lost too in a row, and the conversation becomes,
all right, if they're not up to the level of
a Detroit and maybe a Philly in the NFC, at
least they're on the rise. But it is a humbling
moment for one Jaden Daniels, who spoke following the game
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last night.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
I don't know if I had a two game losing streak,
but you know, it's just it's just ups and downs,
and you got to learn different things throughout.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
The rookie year.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Like I said at the beginning of season, everything's not
gonna be perfect, even though I want to be perfect.
But you know, it just comes with, you know, just
playing the position. Man, you got to go through some stuff.
You got to go through a varsity it's how you respond.
So you know, I feel like we'll respond great. You know,
we'll rest up and we'll get back to It must.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Be sweet to have not had a two game losing
streak before you get to the NFL.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
That must be sweet.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Do you play on just did you plan dominant teams
when you were in high school and then college? Did
you ever have a two game losing streak?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (03:03):
How many times once?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
My high school football team sucked out loud, I mean terrible.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Every one of them.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
And Jayden Daniels has just never had a two game
losing streak until he gets to the NFL. And look,
they were making the point you know, last night postgame
to where he's still dealing with the rib issue and
so he doesn't he's not the same player he was
earlier in the season because he you know, it's still
somewhat difficult for him to play and breathe and kind
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of function at one hundred percent. But there's also the
thought that have teams in the NFL started to maybe
figure this out a little bit more, and that's why
you've seen the offense hit a little bit of a
rough patch here recently.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Now they has some tough breaks. Like we're just saying
highlights on television right here. After they lost the ball
on the fourth down, Philly was driving and you know,
the tight end fumbles the ball after a really really
nice hustle play by the defense, and the defender knocks
the ball out. Philly gets a what they call it
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the fortuitous and I think that's the word, a fortuitous bounce,
and they're able to get hold of it and retain
possession and pretty much ice the game with Sakuan. But
they they held this game, and check the first half
of the game is a seven to three score. So
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the defense did what they needed to do and the
offense did not. But the defense kept them in the
game for the most part. So where I saw things
that I feel like my three biggest criticisms or my
three biggest takeaways from the game for the Commanders is one,
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and it's not you know, associated with jayde and daniels
health because I still think Jaydon Daniels is showing in
the games that he is formidable even in the current
state that he is physically, even though the point output
didn't reflect that. Is that this team is a very,
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very competitive team. It just needs to learn how to
finish games because in the last two weeks it's been
the fourth quarter that's been the achilles heel of this team.
That's one two is that this is a team that's
being built and it's not It's not where it needs
to be in terms of personnel. I made the point
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earlier in the show that I was curious as to
if they would have made a move and free agency
because both of the hot item item players positions were
at positions of need for the Commanders, which is the
rush in you know, the linebacker, rush linebacker and another receiver.
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You need another receiver to go with McLaurin, and you
need another rush rush linebacker, an impact linebacker like Louvu.
I think that's his name. Am I saying it correctly? Louvu?
Speaker 6 (06:19):
That's what I thought it was.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
I want to say that's the name. That dude is
special man like I love his game. But those are
my two takeaways from the game. For the Commanders is
that they are that this is a franchise first and foremost,
and I could speak from having just went there and
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the freshness of having visited there. The energy of that
place is different, and you can clearly feel that there
is a positive support from ownership and the decision makers
of the managers, general managers, the scouts, and the coaching
staff that they're going to do their jobs the way
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they're supposed to do their jobs and losing a game
in a season that they're trying to build out, modify,
identify what it is that they need to do to
win moving into the future, instead of it being a
pressurized situation where dan Quinn has to produce right this
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moment or lose your job or deal with all of
the scrutiny and all of kind of the pressure that
was coming in that negative environment that was created with
Dan Sneyder for so many years, this is actually a
feel good story. We actually can grab positives out of
what's taking place in Washington and not feel as though
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there is other drama that surfaces and takes away from
the focus of just becoming a better team and that's
clearly present here. You don't you haven't heard of any
drama surrounding Jaydon Daniels. You haven't heard of any drama
surrounding the coaches or in the front office or anything
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that would take away from what dan Quinn and company
is trying to do. And for that, I think that
is ultimately, if anything, that is the singular biggest win
in Washington d C. There has not been anyone or
anything that has made a mockery of this team or
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its fan base this entire season. And so that's my
takeaway at my observations of them.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
When when you say that like that, that just speaks
to what that fan base has gone through.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Oh yeah, one of the.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Big wins this season is that they haven't embarrassed themselves
so far. Like that's how bads we're there.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
But and it's not even it's like, it wasn't even
a feeling of we're expecting the exp is there to
be a quarterbacks controversy. The expectation is Jaydeon Daniels to
come out and say something that he's disgruntled about, or
or a coach saying something, or a GM doing something,
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or you know, the owner saying or doing something that
shouldn't or the reports are that this is taking place
like it's not the political mess and rigamoro that takes
place in the nation's capital. I've always said one thing
that you have to understand about and maybe I was
(09:34):
wrong to say this, but this is how I felt
about it, and this is what the reality for us
as the players was back then, is that you had
to handle your business as an employee for the Washington
then Redskins now commanders. You had to handle your business
as if you were one of the politicians that lived
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in the city, that lived in the area. And they
always tell you separate you know, state and church. Don't
don't talk about religion, don't talk about politics in the
in the sports arena. Keep it focused in on your
family and keep it focused in on the game, and
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everything should work out well for you. Well, things have
since changed and people are more liberal and how it
is they approach talking about what they want to talk about.
But with that being said, it doesn't have to turn
into this is the Achilles heel of this organization. This
is what drives this dominant uh. This this organization, what
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dominated this team and this franchise for so long was
politics and drama playing out in the public and in
the media. You know, they were doing what the whole
Bible book of Dan Snyder running and owning the team.
He's at odds with the news paper. He's suing them,
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They're they're writing, there's here's a report over here. They're
taking shots over here, they're firing off over here. You're
bringing a new head coach in. Here's a new new
quarterback coming in. Okay, boom, boom boom. It's all the
same mess all the time when Dan Snyder owned this team.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
And that's not me poweling on him. That's just me
being honest.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
About what the situation represented. And that's not the case anymore.
So when I see a loss like this take place
and it's the second time in a row that they
played a quality team, that's the key here. They have
to learn how and figure out where they're at right now,
what they need on their roster, what they need to
do to adjust and adapt to where they are to
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finish out the streets season as strongly as they can
by saying, Okay, these are two quality teams that we've
had to play back to back. We played them well
and early in the game, we put ourselves in good
positions to win the game, but we did not win
the game down the stretch. What do we need to
do with the personnel that we have right now to
schematically be able to correct and rectify that so that
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we can take this this last stage of the season
and really really play at a level that sets us
up to have, you know, some some success in the playoffs.
That has not been a conversation that you could really
have about this team, this this this franchise and.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
A really really really really really long time.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
You know, it's an underrated circus moment from the Washington
Commanders previously the word that I can't say because I
wasn't drafted by him. Now, remember when Albert Haynesworth signed
this big contract with him, came.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Out and did the worm, did the centipede on on them?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So he comes he comes out and because he wasn't
in shape, like was it was it Mike Shanahan who
was making him do conditioning drills every day till he
passed it until he passed. And there was literally video
coverage of it every day like there would be like
people would be recording and filming and you would go,
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all right, now, let's go live to Albert Hainsworth's conditioning
test to see if he passes.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Today.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Wait, what guy signed a seven year, one hundred million
dollar contract, which at the time was a monster deal.
He signed on the first day of free agency, and
they had film crews out there to chronicle whether or
not he could pass his physical before practice every day.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
But then, but then they turned those things into Tabloyd's stories,
like he's at the Capitol Grill, like swiping his credit card,
his his his black American Express card down the cleavage
of the server.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
At Capitol Grill.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Like the storylines that were bro the storylines that were
coming out of DC when went back in those days, bruh.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
That was before tap bro was.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Well, it wasn't gonna do it, was before tax still swiping, Yeah,
but that wasn't that wasn't to run that. You you
can't run a credit card through through the cleavage of
one of the servers.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Just can't do it. I mean, I can understand depending
on who it was, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Don't confuse.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
I've never heard of a pair being able to process
the strip.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
You know, you know, the point is, the point is
none of that is now happening there that we know
of in Washington.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
It doesn't seem like And here's the thing, right, because
it's d C. The one thing that you can be
assured of is that the media, whatever it is that's
going on, the nature of what's going on internally, the
media is going they're going to.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Get a hold of it.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
It's it's no different than New York really in a
lot of ways, it's no different than California as it
applies to other things, like things, certain things are more
important than California. But sports and politics in DC is
what drives everything. And that's kind of the same thing
business and sport drives everything in New York. Entertainment and
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the media thrives on being able to get a hold
of those provocative stories, those polarizing stories. And you have
no villains on this team. You think about it, You
just threw out Albert Haynesworth. There's a long list of
guys I'm on the list that were villainized by this
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organization at some point in time in their career.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Well, let's be honest here, there's worse list to be on,
you know, for being truthful.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
The reality here is is that that has driven this
franchise for so long. It's driven the franchise, the drama,
the confusion, the chaos, the lack of success. It has
driven this this this franchise for so long that if
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there really were true dysfunction to that level and to
that degree taking place still behind behind the scenes, it
would have surfaced by now.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Somebody would have got a hold of it.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Dan Steinberg, John Kime, Mark Maski, somebody, somebody would have
got a hold of the fact that the dysfunction is
so bad and and that the energy and the vibe
has really not even gotten better, it's gotten worse.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
That is not the case.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
It just seems like a breath of fresh air in
life has been breathed into uh, this organization, and they're
going in the right direction. So even in a two
game skid, you're not hearing the craziness that would accompany
a two game skid under the different ownership that was
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there prior to where they're at now.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
That's wild.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
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Speaker 2 (17:11):
Though? What is it?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
It's a football Friday. It's a damn football Friday. Bar
come on, you know, I don't know. I don't really
feel like doing it this week. Man, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
As just got his hair dead.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Oh I can't even transition us into our next song
the right way?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Man, come all right?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Oh yeah, shouts out to my man Daddy Garcia. Man,
I'm not, I'm not. I'm not singing it today. I'm
not going to sing it today, shouts out to my
man misch oh Man.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Two pros that cannot there on Fox Sports right now,
going to do it so coming up next here though,
here's what I do know. There's one team in the
NFL that does something against a really, really good player
that nobody else can. It's very strange. The history of
it is strange. We'll get into all of that for
you next year on FSR.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
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So coming up a little over fifteen minutes from now,
we are going to have another edition of Lee's Leftovers
as we close up shop here on a football Friday.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Here on the show.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
It is a football Friday, which means we've got NFL
coming up this weekend. We got college football coming up
this weekend, obviously, and we've got a couple of big
matchups in the NFL. The big main event of the
Sunday in the NFL is obviously the Chiefs and the Bills.
So that game is going to be taking place, must
be noted Harrison Bucker has been placed on IR, so
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the Chiefs will be out with out with their kicker
who's not going to be with the team, and so
you know, that makes that matchup a little bit more
interesting considering the Chiefs offense has had difficulty putting points together,
and so you wonder whether or not that's going to
factor in. Another great game that's taken place this weekend
is the Ravens and the Steelers, which is always a
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great game, always a classic matchup, always very physical, but
always apparently a little bit of an issue for Lamar Jackson.
So he's seventeen and five against every other team in
the AFC North in his career and one in three
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against the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I mean they have again, I think what took place
last night something that should be I guess stated, as
well as the fact that I believe that the Philadelphia
Eagles have like a superiority type of deal over the
Commanders at this point. And I think that the Commanders
kind of embrace that belief that you know, they're better
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than us, like they're big brother. The Eagles are big brother.
I just I think that I think that that's the
same thing that exists with the Ravens with the Steelers,
is that the Steelers are considered a big big brother.
And sometimes you have just like kind of like a
mental block to play at the level you're supposed to
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play at when you're playing against certain teams. And I
think that the Steelers represent that to Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
So some of the reasons why he's missed a game
because you see that you go only one in three?
Why is he only played him four times? So here's
the list of reasons why Lamar Jackson has only played
the Steelers four times in his career. In twenty eighteen,
they had already played twice before he became the starter
as a rookie. In twenty nineteen, he beat him once
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in overtime, but didn't play in the finale because the
Ravens had already wrapped up the number one seed. In
twenty twenty, he lost to the Steelers early in the season,
and the second meeting he missed due to COVID. In
twenty twenty one, he lost to the Steelers in Week thirteen,
but missed the second meeting because of an ankle injury.
In twenty twenty two, he missed both games because of
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a knee injury, and then in twenty twenty three, he
lost to the Steelers in Week five. Last year and
didn't play in the finale because Baltimore had already wrapped
up the number one seed. So there is other factors
that are kind of playing into why Lamar hasn't been
on the field against Pittsburgh. But man, this is I
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think sort of a microcosm of why Baltimore can be
frustrading at times, and we've talked about it before to
where like so many years in a row, I had
Baltimore going to the Super Bowl, and last year was
the first year I was like, I'm not doing it again.
I'm just I'm not doing it. And then they end
up in the AFC Title Game and they're a favorite
against Kansas City and they fell apart. But like, there
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are these weird moments where Baltimore just has a stinker
for some reason, like it just like that happened against
Cleveland this year. We thought it was happening last week
in the first half, and then they figured it out.
And I don't know if they're if that's now a
good sign that maybe they're starting to get past all that.
But it is sort of a weird phenomenon that Baltimore
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has a stinker at least a couple of times a year,
even when they're good. Yet it seems to always be
against Pittsburgh when Lamar Jackson's the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
It's just a weird thing.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Man. Sometimes again, sometimes you can only attribute that type
of phenomenon to maybe they're being a a ment hurdle
that he has to get over, just like in the playoffs, right,
we wonder why something seems to come up short with
this group since Lamar Jackson has taken over in the playoffs.
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Same thing with Josh Allen in Buffalo. There are certain
things that you look at and you're like, how is
that not a better stat But sometimes I think it's
as simple as saying that's.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
There.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Takes a little bit of time for guys to overcome
some of the things as a team, as an individual,
as a whole organizationally speaking, on down you just have
to work to overcome. And I think that that's kind
of what it comes down to.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Who is the team that you couldn't get past that
just for whatever reason, had your number, either college or the.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
NFL, Michigan and College Michigan, in college and in the
NFL pretty much pretty much everybody in the NFC East.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I mean, like, that's got to be aggravating.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
It's like hitting your banging your knee on the same
piece of furniture in the house and you're like, all right,
I'm not doing this ever again, and then two weeks
later you do it again. That's got to be really frustrating,
just continuing to lose to the same team over and
over again. So Lamar Jackson's probably pretty frustrated at this point.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I don't know, if he's as frustrated as Mike Tyson
is when it comes to dealing with Jake Paul. That's
another big event that's taking place. We talked about it earlier.
Mike Tyson has got Jake Paul coming up later on
tonight on Netflix. So a lot of people very very
interested in seeing how that plays.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Out, what that's going to look like.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Is it a real fight for the record, the gloves
are going to be bigger than your standard gloves, the
rounds are going to be a minute shorter, there's going
to be less rounds overall. So there are some modifications
that are being made for Mike Tyson, who is approaching,
you know, sixty years old. Well, Mike Tyson had an
interview yesterday with a young reporter and he, you know,
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was just talking and answering questions with this young reporter,
and you know, apparently Mike kind of saw who he
was talking to and just said, Yeah, it doesn't matter
to me. I'm just gonna go ahead and do what
I do. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 7 (25:25):
Well, and your return to the ring for this fight,
you are setting a monumental opportunity for kids my age
to see the legend Mike Tyson in the ring for
the first time. So, after such a successful career, what
type of legacy would you like to leave behind when
it's all said and done.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
No, I don't believe in the word legacy. I think
that's another word for ego. Legacy doesn't mean nothing. That's
just some word everybody grabbed on to. Someone said that word,
and everyone grabbed on the words, and I was used
every five seconds. I mean absolutely nothing to me. I'm
just passing through. I'm gonna die and it's going to
be over. Who cared about legacy after that? When a
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big eagle? So I'm gonna die. I want people to
think that I'm this, I'm great, I'm no way nothing
When your debt with dust, absolutely nothing, our legacy is nothing.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
Well, thank you so much for sharing that. That is
something that I have not heard before someone say that
as an answer.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
Can you really imagine something? I want my legacy to
be this way? When I get debt? Why do you
want really want to think about you?
Speaker 4 (26:24):
How?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
What's the death?
Speaker 8 (26:25):
I think I want people to think about me when
I'm gone. Who the kids about me when I'm gone?
My kids, maybe a grandkids?
Speaker 4 (26:33):
True?
Speaker 7 (26:34):
And again, thank you so much for sharing that.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
I mean, that's what legacy represents, is what your kids
and your grandkids and your great grandkids and great great.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Grandkids, by the way, I.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Mean, and that legacy isn't always just about remembering you.
It's about creating an example for those that you've created
or those that you've impacted in their lives stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I don't believe that.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
I believe that he was being an a hole in
that moment because he's playing the hill in all of this.
I just think that Mike Tyson knows how to get
things going, just like Jake Paul knows how to get
things going. And that was a response to create conversations
and to.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Create generate a reaction.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
While I think he believes in his mind like hey
you die, you're just did like some of what he
was saying, I think he believes all of it.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I don't buy it, but if you like, so, credit
to Jazzy, who is the reporter there. I believe she's
fourteen years old. She has a YouTube channel called Jazzy's
World TV. And when he starts going off on all that,
she's just kind of like, oh wow, didn't expect that.
And then he curses in front, and she just kind
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of rolls right through it like that. That is a
pro job. I just love the idea of Mike Tyson
being so locked in on the fight coming up that
he sees a fourteen year old female reporter and just says,
you know what, I'm just gonna curse. I'm gonna talk
how I talk. And this is just the way this
is gonna be. As they get ready to go do
battle with Jake Paul coming up at Cowboys Stadium, Hey,
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buried in all this, at least the Cowboys have an
event they can look forward to there, Like if you're
Cowboy fans at that stadium, like, at least you got
something to look forward to there. You're not getting wiped
out by every team that walks in there that's not
named the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
So at least there's that.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Like, I mean, people shouldn't be complaining too much about
this fight coming up, but I just it's gonna be.
That's gonna be fun, man. And you know this it's
on a Friday night. It's on Netflix, you know, like
you know, there's some college football games going on you
can check out, and then you can go watch Mike
Tyson fight again, and a lot of people are running out.
(28:44):
Here's what I think's happening. People realize this is probably
the last time you're gonna get to see Mike Tyson.
So you're seeing the betting market get kind of skewed
because a lot of people are betting on Mike Tyson
when the reality is, you know, he's almost sixty years old.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
Yeah, what is that exactly?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Mean?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
This is the last time I get to see Mike Tyson.
It's like, you may as well bet on him, you know,
like why not?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
You know, may as well bet on him, Like this
is this is an opportunity to get to see him play.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Like if Barry Bonds entered the home run Derby.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I feel like if Barry Bonds entered the home run Derby,
I bet on Barry Bonds.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I don't care what it was.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
It's not the same.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Got to get after it, man, it's.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Not the same. How's that the same?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Barry Bonds and Mike Tyson.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
If Barry Bonds came back to play, it wouldn't be
a home run Derby. It be him playing a season
I would be playing in in in games. This isn't
It's not the same. Person exactly been a way too long.
This isn't exactly a real fight, Like That's what I'm
trying to tell you. So there's no way to take
away from it. This is the real Mike Tyson. It's
a spectacle. They've created a spectacle, and people go for
(29:50):
it's entertainment. I mean, there's different ways and different levels
of entertaining. This is not a Mike Tyson fight as
we know it. This is a an exhibition of an
older man that has been a polarizing figure, has been
a magnificent boxer at one point in his life and
(30:12):
one of the scariest human beings walking the face of
this planet. And so there's cachet. There's draw to seeing
him get into an arena with a young dude that
brags and talks about what it is he's able to
do and boxing and how he's able to do it.
(30:32):
And people want to see Jake Paul get his head
knocked off, and it's intriguing to think if old ass
Mike Tyson can do it.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Are you to watch? Yes, you have a couple of cocktails? Sure, yeah,
See it's fun, I mean, and that's all it is.
But let's keep it at what it is.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
It's going to be fun to watch how it plays out,
entertaining to see how it plays out, not the fact
that this is like literally a real fight.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Oh I agree, Yeah, I'm not expecting this to be
Arturo Gotti, Mickey Ward the first the first edition, Like
I look at this, it's just like, yeah, it is
a spectacle. It's at the Jerry Dome, and you know,
but there's a curiosity that comes with it. And the
curiosity is about Mike Tyson, like he's the one carrying
the interest.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I think in this, I.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Think Jake Paul is carrying it as well, because there's
the idea of ken Jake Paul really defend himself against
an old ass.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Man that used to be a bad ass man.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Not last night he couldn't. He got slapped. You know,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I don't even understand how that all works because in
the end, like really in.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
The you see what Jake Fall changed is Instagram profile
picture to what it was Chris Rock getting slapped by
Will Smith. Dang, I'm going, I'm going.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe.
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Speaker 2 (32:30):
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Speaker 3 (32:31):
What is that? Sounds incredible, but they're still good.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Not to find out what's left?
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It's Lee's laschovers.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Go ahead, Lee, you know, let me and you finish
out the segment and finish out the show.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Uh, you know Levar's back.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Q beiled out on me earlier and now you you know,
Jonas belled out on me on the last segment, so
you know.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
What, Levar's back? Good god? What what?
Speaker 4 (32:54):
What are your leftovers hitting into the weekend? Mister lead
the last week? Have you been dry by the way,
I'm Is that a part of the.
Speaker 9 (33:01):
Yeah, yeah, yes, okay, yesterday was dry day.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
It was a dry day. Are you sure yesterday was
a dry day?
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Absolutely?
Speaker 9 (33:07):
Okay, today, it's gonna be tough because we were just
talking about it. I would love to have a cold
one with the fight tonight, but I'm gonna try my best, and.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
You're going to have a cold one with tonight.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I was just shot.
Speaker 9 (33:17):
I was dreaming about it because you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Keep doing the math and you're gonna say, well, you know,
as long as I go a week, I'll just get
past this week and I'll be dry the whole.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
This is where it's gonna get to.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
You're gonna drink tonight, and then you're gonna realize, well,
I already started the weekend, may as well finish it off.
And then you got the packers went over the bears
on Sunday, and then you're gonna think, no, no, I'm
just gonna keep dry all during the week, and then
that way that'll count towards my effort that I output
towards the weekend in Green Bay.
Speaker 9 (33:46):
That's what it feels like to me. Love the belief,
love the support system I have here.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yes, I tried, I'm the one who had your back,
and then you came in and said, maeah, listen.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I had a couple of drinks.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
Yeah, I did.
Speaker 9 (33:57):
I did, but I can still get a full weekend
before next week.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Not a shot. Now, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
I don't think you should put that unnecessary pressure on yourself.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
Man, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
You coming in to myself. I'm gonna coach.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Coach Franklin has a thing with the football season. He says,
you know, one to O, right, you win one day,
then you move on to the next day, you start
right over again.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
One to O, bro.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
I think that that's where you should start every day.
You don't do it, that's a win one and O,
and then you go to the next day and see
what happens if you don't get it. You know, we
didn't get it against Ohio State. We were all in
one that day, you know what I mean. So every
once in a while you're gonna lose lee. Yeah, but
you come back and you try, you get up and
do it again, try to make those playoffs. You know,
just man gets up one time for every one time
(34:43):
that he falls down. Fall down, fall down once, get
up once. You know what I mean, Well, go always
get up, always get back up.
Speaker 9 (34:51):
Hey, fellas, we've been talking about that super moon tonight
that's actually called the beaver moon. By the way, just
in case you were wondering, Yes, it's called the beaver moon.
I don't know why I meant to look that up.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Well, beavering and mooning is certainly going to be a
part of my weekend shenanigans.
Speaker 9 (35:09):
Yeah, well, another reason to look up into the sky. Actually,
other than the beaver moon, we had a second day
of the House Committee holding a UFO meetings what's actually
being called the Unidentified Anomalist Phenomena Exposing the Truth hearings. What, well,
you know UFOs are now called UAPs Unidentified Anomalist Phenomena.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Oh god, you know why because they're coming out of
the water now.
Speaker 9 (35:31):
Yeah, that's a lot. That's a big thing that they're
talking about in these hearings. Another thing is that a
former Pentagon official testified to Congress yesterday that the government
has evidence that we are not alone in the cosmos
and that there's a cabal of officials and that's hiding
the information that's called the immaculate.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Constantly, why haven't we met any of these well they
say they are, we have met them, and that it's
just being under wraps. Is that we have Why is
it that only people that can keep it under wraps
have met them.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Listen, man, I told everybody there's a show on Amazon
on Prime a documentary called Moment of Contact, which is
unbelievable about this touchdown and recovery of a body.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
In Brazil back in the day, and it is wild,
Like there's like, how do you make that up? There's
no way you can make that up. But like Trump
said this.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
If he got elected, he was going to get to
the bottom of UFOs and he was going to release
the Kennedy document good for the jfk assassination.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
I would like to know about both of those. Yes,
And I don't talk politics, suckers. Yeah, don't be going
on in social media talking about it's sorry to hear
LeVar talking politics.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Give your hard time.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
It's stupid.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
They already give you a hard time for that.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Sarenara, talk to you next week.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Well, tune in up on game tomorrow, by the way,
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Let me say I have a better help? Read this now?
Was in the first one? You need you need some
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Man? You do you.
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Need some better help? And you be coming up with
funnier better sayings every day. Bruh, choice to be funny?
That one you just gave me was very very funny,
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So Week eleven in the NFL kicked off last night
in Philadelphia, and the Philadelphia Eagles get it done. Saquon
Barkley another great performance for them. Who the hell needs him?
The Giants are doing all right, so that's fine. Philadelphia
(02:00):
Eagles get a big win, and so the Washington Commanders
have now lost too in a row, and the conversation becomes,
all right, if they're not up to the level of
a Detroit and maybe a Philly in the NFC, at
least they're on the rise. But it is a humbling
moment for one Jaden Daniels, who spoke following the game
(02:21):
last night.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
I don't know if I had a two game losing streak,
but you know, it's just it's just ups and downs,
and you got to learn different things throughout.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
The rookie year.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Like I said at the beginning of season, everything's not
gonna be perfect, even though I want to be perfect.
But you know, it just comes with, you know, just
playing the position. Man, you got to go through some stuff.
You got to go through a varsity it's how you respond.
So you know, I feel like we'll respond great. You know,
we'll rest up and we'll get back to It must.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Be sweet to have not had a two game losing
streak before you get to the NFL.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
That must be sweet.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Do you play on just did you plan dominant teams
when you were in high school and then college? Did
you ever have a two game losing streak?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (03:03):
How many times once?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
My high school football team sucked out loud, I mean terrible.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Every one of them.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
And Jayden Daniels has just never had a two game
losing streak until he gets to the NFL. And look,
they were making the point you know, last night postgame
to where he's still dealing with the rib issue and
so he doesn't he's not the same player he was
earlier in the season because he you know, it's still
somewhat difficult for him to play and breathe and kind
(03:39):
of function at one hundred percent. But there's also the
thought that have teams in the NFL started to maybe
figure this out a little bit more, and that's why
you've seen the offense hit a little bit of a
rough patch here recently.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Now they has some tough breaks. Like we're just saying
highlights on television right here. After they lost the ball
on the fourth down, Philly was driving and you know,
the tight end fumbles the ball after a really really
nice hustle play by the defense, and the defender knocks
the ball out. Philly gets a what they call it
(04:14):
the fortuitous and I think that's the word, a fortuitous bounce,
and they're able to get hold of it and retain
possession and pretty much ice the game with Sakuan. But
they they held this game, and check the first half
of the game is a seven to three score. So
(04:34):
the defense did what they needed to do and the
offense did not. But the defense kept them in the
game for the most part. So where I saw things
that I feel like my three biggest criticisms or my
three biggest takeaways from the game for the Commanders is one,
(04:55):
and it's not you know, associated with jayde and daniels
health because I still think Jaydon Daniels is showing in
the games that he is formidable even in the current
state that he is physically, even though the point output
didn't reflect that. Is that this team is a very,
(05:15):
very competitive team. It just needs to learn how to
finish games because in the last two weeks it's been
the fourth quarter that's been the achilles heel of this team.
That's one two is that this is a team that's
being built and it's not It's not where it needs
to be in terms of personnel. I made the point
(05:40):
earlier in the show that I was curious as to
if they would have made a move and free agency
because both of the hot item item players positions were
at positions of need for the Commanders, which is the
rush in you know, the linebacker, rush linebacker and another receiver.
(06:02):
You need another receiver to go with McLaurin, and you
need another rush rush linebacker, an impact linebacker like Louvu.
I think that's his name. Am I saying it correctly? Louvu?
Speaker 6 (06:19):
That's what I thought it was.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
I want to say that's the name. That dude is
special man like I love his game. But those are
my two takeaways from the game. For the Commanders is
that they are that this is a franchise first and foremost,
and I could speak from having just went there and
(06:41):
the freshness of having visited there. The energy of that
place is different, and you can clearly feel that there
is a positive support from ownership and the decision makers
of the managers, general managers, the scouts, and the coaching
staff that they're going to do their jobs the way
(07:04):
they're supposed to do their jobs and losing a game
in a season that they're trying to build out, modify,
identify what it is that they need to do to
win moving into the future, instead of it being a
pressurized situation where dan Quinn has to produce right this
(07:24):
moment or lose your job or deal with all of
the scrutiny and all of kind of the pressure that
was coming in that negative environment that was created with
Dan Sneyder for so many years, this is actually a
feel good story. We actually can grab positives out of
what's taking place in Washington and not feel as though
(07:46):
there is other drama that surfaces and takes away from
the focus of just becoming a better team and that's
clearly present here. You don't you haven't heard of any
drama surrounding Jaydon Daniels. You haven't heard of any drama
surrounding the coaches or in the front office or anything
(08:10):
that would take away from what dan Quinn and company
is trying to do. And for that, I think that
is ultimately, if anything, that is the singular biggest win
in Washington d C. There has not been anyone or
anything that has made a mockery of this team or
(08:31):
its fan base this entire season. And so that's my
takeaway at my observations of them.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
When when you say that like that, that just speaks
to what that fan base has gone through.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Oh yeah, one of the.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Big wins this season is that they haven't embarrassed themselves
so far. Like that's how bads we're there.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
But and it's not even it's like, it wasn't even
a feeling of we're expecting the exp is there to
be a quarterbacks controversy. The expectation is Jaydeon Daniels to
come out and say something that he's disgruntled about, or
or a coach saying something, or a GM doing something,
(09:14):
or you know, the owner saying or doing something that
shouldn't or the reports are that this is taking place
like it's not the political mess and rigamoro that takes
place in the nation's capital. I've always said one thing
that you have to understand about and maybe I was
(09:34):
wrong to say this, but this is how I felt
about it, and this is what the reality for us
as the players was back then, is that you had
to handle your business as an employee for the Washington
then Redskins now commanders. You had to handle your business
as if you were one of the politicians that lived
(09:56):
in the city, that lived in the area. And they
always tell you separate you know, state and church. Don't
don't talk about religion, don't talk about politics in the
in the sports arena. Keep it focused in on your
family and keep it focused in on the game, and
(10:17):
everything should work out well for you. Well, things have
since changed and people are more liberal and how it
is they approach talking about what they want to talk about.
But with that being said, it doesn't have to turn
into this is the Achilles heel of this organization. This
is what drives this dominant uh. This this organization, what
(10:39):
dominated this team and this franchise for so long was
politics and drama playing out in the public and in
the media. You know, they were doing what the whole
Bible book of Dan Snyder running and owning the team.
He's at odds with the news paper. He's suing them,
(11:02):
They're they're writing, there's here's a report over here. They're
taking shots over here, they're firing off over here. You're
bringing a new head coach in. Here's a new new
quarterback coming in. Okay, boom, boom boom. It's all the
same mess all the time when Dan Snyder owned this team.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
And that's not me poweling on him. That's just me
being honest.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
About what the situation represented. And that's not the case anymore.
So when I see a loss like this take place
and it's the second time in a row that they
played a quality team, that's the key here. They have
to learn how and figure out where they're at right now,
what they need on their roster, what they need to
do to adjust and adapt to where they are to
(11:46):
finish out the streets season as strongly as they can
by saying, Okay, these are two quality teams that we've
had to play back to back. We played them well
and early in the game, we put ourselves in good
positions to win the game, but we did not win
the game down the stretch. What do we need to
do with the personnel that we have right now to
schematically be able to correct and rectify that so that
(12:09):
we can take this this last stage of the season
and really really play at a level that sets us
up to have, you know, some some success in the playoffs.
That has not been a conversation that you could really
have about this team, this this this franchise and.
Speaker 6 (12:27):
A really really really really really long time.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
You know, it's an underrated circus moment from the Washington
Commanders previously the word that I can't say because I
wasn't drafted by him. Now, remember when Albert Haynesworth signed
this big contract with him, came.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Out and did the worm, did the centipede on on them?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
So he comes he comes out and because he wasn't
in shape, like was it was it Mike Shanahan who
was making him do conditioning drills every day till he
passed it until he passed. And there was literally video
coverage of it every day like there would be like
people would be recording and filming and you would go,
(13:10):
all right, now, let's go live to Albert Hainsworth's conditioning
test to see if he passes.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Today.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Wait, what guy signed a seven year, one hundred million
dollar contract, which at the time was a monster deal.
He signed on the first day of free agency, and
they had film crews out there to chronicle whether or
not he could pass his physical before practice every day.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
But then, but then they turned those things into Tabloyd's stories,
like he's at the Capitol Grill, like swiping his credit card,
his his his black American Express card down the cleavage
of the server.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
At Capitol Grill.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Like the storylines that were bro the storylines that were
coming out of DC when went back in those days, bruh.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
That was before tap bro was.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Well, it wasn't gonna do it, was before tax still swiping, Yeah,
but that wasn't that wasn't to run that. You you
can't run a credit card through through the cleavage of
one of the servers.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Just can't do it. I mean, I can understand depending
on who it was, it doesn't.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Don't confuse.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
I've never heard of a pair being able to process
the strip.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
You know, you know, the point is, the point is
none of that is now happening there that we know
of in Washington.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
It doesn't seem like And here's the thing, right, because
it's d C. The one thing that you can be
assured of is that the media, whatever it is that's
going on, the nature of what's going on internally, the
media is going they're going to.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
Get a hold of it.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
It's it's no different than New York really in a
lot of ways, it's no different than California as it
applies to other things, like things, certain things are more
important than California. But sports and politics in DC is
what drives everything. And that's kind of the same thing
business and sport drives everything in New York. Entertainment and
(15:15):
the media thrives on being able to get a hold
of those provocative stories, those polarizing stories. And you have
no villains on this team. You think about it, You
just threw out Albert Haynesworth. There's a long list of
guys I'm on the list that were villainized by this
(15:36):
organization at some point in time in their career.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Well, let's be honest here, there's worse list to be on,
you know, for being truthful.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
The reality here is is that that has driven this
franchise for so long. It's driven the franchise, the drama,
the confusion, the chaos, the lack of success. It has
driven this this this franchise for so long that if
(16:04):
there really were true dysfunction to that level and to
that degree taking place still behind behind the scenes, it
would have surfaced by now.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
Somebody would have got a hold of it.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Dan Steinberg, John Kime, Mark Maski, somebody, somebody would have
got a hold of the fact that the dysfunction is
so bad and and that the energy and the vibe
has really not even gotten better, it's gotten worse.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
That is not the case.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
It just seems like a breath of fresh air in
life has been breathed into uh, this organization, and they're
going in the right direction. So even in a two
game skid, you're not hearing the craziness that would accompany
a two game skid under the different ownership that was
(16:58):
there prior to where they're at now.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
That's wild.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio. By the way, it should be
pointed out here, like if you're looking around, going, yes,
it feels like there's a super moon or a full
moon or feel you know what today is?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Though? What is it?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
It's a football Friday. It's a damn football Friday. Bar
come on, you know, I don't know. I don't really
feel like doing it this week. Man, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
As just got his hair dead.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Oh I can't even transition us into our next song
the right way?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Man, come all right?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Oh yeah, shouts out to my man Daddy Garcia. Man,
I'm not, I'm not. I'm not singing it today. I'm
not going to sing it today, shouts out to my
man misch oh Man.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Two pros that cannot there on Fox Sports right now,
going to do it so coming up next here though,
here's what I do know. There's one team in the
NFL that does something against a really, really good player
that nobody else can. It's very strange. The history of
it is strange. We'll get into all of that for
you next year on FSR.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Two Pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here.
So coming up a little over fifteen minutes from now,
we are going to have another edition of Lee's Leftovers
as we close up shop here on a football Friday.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Here on the show.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
It is a football Friday, which means we've got NFL
coming up this weekend. We got college football coming up
this weekend, obviously, and we've got a couple of big
matchups in the NFL. The big main event of the
Sunday in the NFL is obviously the Chiefs and the Bills.
So that game is going to be taking place, must
be noted Harrison Bucker has been placed on IR, so
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the Chiefs will be out with out with their kicker
who's not going to be with the team, and so
you know, that makes that matchup a little bit more
interesting considering the Chiefs offense has had difficulty putting points together,
and so you wonder whether or not that's going to
factor in. Another great game that's taken place this weekend
is the Ravens and the Steelers, which is always a
(19:34):
great game, always a classic matchup, always very physical, but
always apparently a little bit of an issue for Lamar Jackson.
So he's seventeen and five against every other team in
the AFC North in his career and one in three
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against the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
I mean they have again, I think what took place
last night something that should be I guess stated, as
well as the fact that I believe that the Philadelphia
Eagles have like a superiority type of deal over the
Commanders at this point. And I think that the Commanders
kind of embrace that belief that you know, they're better
(20:22):
than us, like they're big brother. The Eagles are big brother.
I just I think that I think that that's the
same thing that exists with the Ravens with the Steelers,
is that the Steelers are considered a big big brother.
And sometimes you have just like kind of like a
mental block to play at the level you're supposed to
(20:45):
play at when you're playing against certain teams. And I
think that the Steelers represent that to Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
So some of the reasons why he's missed a game
because you see that you go only one in three?
Why is he only played him four times? So here's
the list of reasons why Lamar Jackson has only played
the Steelers four times in his career. In twenty eighteen,
they had already played twice before he became the starter
as a rookie. In twenty nineteen, he beat him once
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in overtime, but didn't play in the finale because the
Ravens had already wrapped up the number one seed. In
twenty twenty, he lost to the Steelers early in the season,
and the second meeting he missed due to COVID. In
twenty twenty one, he lost to the Steelers in Week thirteen,
but missed the second meeting because of an ankle injury.
In twenty twenty two, he missed both games because of
(21:35):
a knee injury, and then in twenty twenty three, he
lost to the Steelers in Week five. Last year and
didn't play in the finale because Baltimore had already wrapped
up the number one seed. So there is other factors
that are kind of playing into why Lamar hasn't been
on the field against Pittsburgh. But man, this is I
(21:56):
think sort of a microcosm of why Baltimore can be
frustrading at times, and we've talked about it before to
where like so many years in a row, I had
Baltimore going to the Super Bowl, and last year was
the first year I was like, I'm not doing it again.
I'm just I'm not doing it. And then they end
up in the AFC Title Game and they're a favorite
against Kansas City and they fell apart. But like, there
(22:17):
are these weird moments where Baltimore just has a stinker
for some reason, like it just like that happened against
Cleveland this year. We thought it was happening last week
in the first half, and then they figured it out.
And I don't know if they're if that's now a
good sign that maybe they're starting to get past all that.
But it is sort of a weird phenomenon that Baltimore
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has a stinker at least a couple of times a year,
even when they're good. Yet it seems to always be
against Pittsburgh when Lamar Jackson's the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
It's just a weird thing.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Man. Sometimes again, sometimes you can only attribute that type
of phenomenon to maybe they're being a a ment hurdle
that he has to get over, just like in the playoffs, right,
we wonder why something seems to come up short with
this group since Lamar Jackson has taken over in the playoffs.
(23:13):
Same thing with Josh Allen in Buffalo. There are certain
things that you look at and you're like, how is
that not a better stat But sometimes I think it's
as simple as saying that's.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
There.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Takes a little bit of time for guys to overcome
some of the things as a team, as an individual,
as a whole organizationally speaking, on down you just have
to work to overcome. And I think that that's kind
of what it comes down to.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Who is the team that you couldn't get past that
just for whatever reason, had your number, either college or the.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
NFL, Michigan and College Michigan, in college and in the
NFL pretty much pretty much everybody in the NFC East.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I mean, like, that's got to be aggravating.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
It's like hitting your banging your knee on the same
piece of furniture in the house and you're like, all right,
I'm not doing this ever again, and then two weeks
later you do it again. That's got to be really frustrating,
just continuing to lose to the same team over and
over again. So Lamar Jackson's probably pretty frustrated at this point.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
I don't know, if he's as frustrated as Mike Tyson
is when it comes to dealing with Jake Paul. That's
another big event that's taking place. We talked about it earlier.
Mike Tyson has got Jake Paul coming up later on
tonight on Netflix. So a lot of people very very
interested in seeing how that plays.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Out, what that's going to look like.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Is it a real fight for the record, the gloves
are going to be bigger than your standard gloves, the
rounds are going to be a minute shorter, there's going
to be less rounds overall. So there are some modifications
that are being made for Mike Tyson, who is approaching,
you know, sixty years old. Well, Mike Tyson had an
interview yesterday with a young reporter and he, you know,
(25:11):
was just talking and answering questions with this young reporter,
and you know, apparently Mike kind of saw who he
was talking to and just said, Yeah, it doesn't matter
to me. I'm just gonna go ahead and do what
I do. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 7 (25:25):
Well, and your return to the ring for this fight,
you are setting a monumental opportunity for kids my age
to see the legend Mike Tyson in the ring for
the first time. So, after such a successful career, what
type of legacy would you like to leave behind when
it's all said and done.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
No, I don't believe in the word legacy. I think
that's another word for ego. Legacy doesn't mean nothing. That's
just some word everybody grabbed on to. Someone said that word,
and everyone grabbed on the words, and I was used
every five seconds. I mean absolutely nothing to me. I'm
just passing through. I'm gonna die and it's going to
be over. Who cared about legacy after that? When a
(26:00):
big eagle? So I'm gonna die. I want people to
think that I'm this, I'm great, I'm no way nothing
When your debt with dust, absolutely nothing, our legacy is nothing.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
Well, thank you so much for sharing that. That is
something that I have not heard before someone say that
as an answer.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
Can you really imagine something? I want my legacy to
be this way? When I get debt? Why do you
want really want to think about you?
Speaker 4 (26:24):
How?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
What's the death?
Speaker 8 (26:25):
I think I want people to think about me when
I'm gone. Who the kids about me when I'm gone?
My kids, maybe a grandkids?
Speaker 4 (26:33):
True?
Speaker 7 (26:34):
And again, thank you so much for sharing that.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
I mean, that's what legacy represents, is what your kids
and your grandkids and your great grandkids and great great.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Grandkids, by the way, I.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Mean, and that legacy isn't always just about remembering you.
It's about creating an example for those that you've created
or those that you've impacted in their lives stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I don't believe that.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
I believe that he was being an a hole in
that moment because he's playing the hill in all of this.
I just think that Mike Tyson knows how to get
things going, just like Jake Paul knows how to get
things going. And that was a response to create conversations
and to.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Create generate a reaction.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
While I think he believes in his mind like hey
you die, you're just did like some of what he
was saying, I think he believes all of it.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I don't buy it, but if you like, so, credit
to Jazzy, who is the reporter there. I believe she's
fourteen years old. She has a YouTube channel called Jazzy's
World TV. And when he starts going off on all that,
she's just kind of like, oh wow, didn't expect that.
And then he curses in front, and she just kind
(27:47):
of rolls right through it like that. That is a
pro job. I just love the idea of Mike Tyson
being so locked in on the fight coming up that
he sees a fourteen year old female reporter and just says,
you know what, I'm just gonna curse. I'm gonna talk
how I talk. And this is just the way this
is gonna be. As they get ready to go do
battle with Jake Paul coming up at Cowboys Stadium, Hey,
(28:09):
buried in all this, at least the Cowboys have an
event they can look forward to there, Like if you're
Cowboy fans at that stadium, like, at least you got
something to look forward to there. You're not getting wiped
out by every team that walks in there that's not
named the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
So at least there's that.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Like, I mean, people shouldn't be complaining too much about
this fight coming up, but I just it's gonna be.
That's gonna be fun, man. And you know this it's
on a Friday night. It's on Netflix, you know, like
you know, there's some college football games going on you
can check out, and then you can go watch Mike
Tyson fight again, and a lot of people are running out.
(28:44):
Here's what I think's happening. People realize this is probably
the last time you're gonna get to see Mike Tyson.
So you're seeing the betting market get kind of skewed
because a lot of people are betting on Mike Tyson
when the reality is, you know, he's almost sixty years old.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
Yeah, what is that exactly?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Mean?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
This is the last time I get to see Mike Tyson.
It's like, you may as well bet on him, you know,
like why not?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
You know, may as well bet on him, Like this
is this is an opportunity to get to see him play.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Like if Barry Bonds entered the home run Derby.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I feel like if Barry Bonds entered the home run Derby,
I bet on Barry Bonds.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I don't care what it was.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
It's not the same.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Got to get after it, man, it's.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Not the same. How's that the same?
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Barry Bonds and Mike Tyson.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
If Barry Bonds came back to play, it wouldn't be
a home run Derby. It be him playing a season
I would be playing in in in games. This isn't
It's not the same. Person exactly been a way too long.
This isn't exactly a real fight, Like That's what I'm
trying to tell you. So there's no way to take
away from it. This is the real Mike Tyson. It's
a spectacle. They've created a spectacle, and people go for
(29:50):
it's entertainment. I mean, there's different ways and different levels
of entertaining. This is not a Mike Tyson fight as
we know it. This is a an exhibition of an
older man that has been a polarizing figure, has been
a magnificent boxer at one point in his life and
(30:12):
one of the scariest human beings walking the face of
this planet. And so there's cachet. There's draw to seeing
him get into an arena with a young dude that
brags and talks about what it is he's able to
do and boxing and how he's able to do it.
(30:32):
And people want to see Jake Paul get his head
knocked off, and it's intriguing to think if old ass
Mike Tyson can do it.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Are you to watch? Yes, you have a couple of cocktails? Sure, yeah,
See it's fun, I mean, and that's all it is.
But let's keep it at what it is.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
It's going to be fun to watch how it plays out,
entertaining to see how it plays out, not the fact
that this is like literally a real fight.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Oh I agree, Yeah, I'm not expecting this to be
Arturo Gotti, Mickey Ward the first the first edition, Like
I look at this, it's just like, yeah, it is
a spectacle. It's at the Jerry Dome, and you know,
but there's a curiosity that comes with it. And the
curiosity is about Mike Tyson, like he's the one carrying
the interest.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I think in this, I.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Think Jake Paul is carrying it as well, because there's
the idea of ken Jake Paul really defend himself against
an old ass.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Man that used to be a bad ass man.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Not last night he couldn't. He got slapped. You know,
I don't.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
I don't even understand how that all works because in
the end, like really in.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
The you see what Jake Fall changed is Instagram profile
picture to what it was Chris Rock getting slapped by
Will Smith. Dang, I'm going, I'm going.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
It is two pros and a cup of Joe.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with
you or coming up next year from the Tire Studios.
We're gonna close up shop on a Football Friday with
another edition of Lee's Leftovers. And it's one of the
great mysteries of all time.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
We'll get to the bottom of it right here on FSR.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.
You know these might smell.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
A little fun.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
What is that? Sounds incredible, but they're still good.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Not to find out what's left?
Speaker 3 (32:37):
It's Lee's laschovers.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Go ahead, Lee, you know, let me and you finish
out the segment and finish out the show.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Uh, you know Levar's back.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Q beiled out on me earlier and now you you know,
Jonas belled out on me on the last segment, so
you know.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
What, Levar's back? Good god? What what?
Speaker 4 (32:54):
What are your leftovers hitting into the weekend? Mister lead
the last week? Have you been dry by the way,
I'm Is that a part of the.
Speaker 9 (33:01):
Yeah, yeah, yes, okay, yesterday was dry day.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
It was a dry day. Are you sure yesterday was
a dry day?
Speaker 6 (33:07):
Absolutely?
Speaker 9 (33:07):
Okay, today, it's gonna be tough because we were just
talking about it. I would love to have a cold
one with the fight tonight, but I'm gonna try my best, and.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
You're going to have a cold one with tonight.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I was just shot.
Speaker 9 (33:17):
I was dreaming about it because you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Keep doing the math and you're gonna say, well, you know,
as long as I go a week, I'll just get
past this week and I'll be dry the whole.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
This is where it's gonna get to.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
You're gonna drink tonight, and then you're gonna realize, well,
I already started the weekend, may as well finish it off.
And then you got the packers went over the bears
on Sunday, and then you're gonna think, no, no, I'm
just gonna keep dry all during the week, and then
that way that'll count towards my effort that I output
towards the weekend in Green Bay.
Speaker 9 (33:46):
That's what it feels like to me. Love the belief,
love the support system I have here.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yes, I tried, I'm the one who had your back,
and then you came in and said, maeah, listen.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I had a couple of drinks.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
Yeah, I did.
Speaker 9 (33:57):
I did, but I can still get a full weekend
before next week.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Not a shot. Now, we'll see.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
I don't think you should put that unnecessary pressure on yourself.
Speaker 6 (34:08):
Man, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
You coming in to myself. I'm gonna coach.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
Coach Franklin has a thing with the football season. He says,
you know, one to O, right, you win one day,
then you move on to the next day, you start
right over again.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
One to O, bro.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
I think that that's where you should start every day.
You don't do it, that's a win one and O,
and then you go to the next day and see
what happens if you don't get it. You know, we
didn't get it against Ohio State. We were all in
one that day, you know what I mean. So every
once in a while you're gonna lose lee. Yeah, but
you come back and you try, you get up and
do it again, try to make those playoffs. You know,
just man gets up one time for every one time
(34:43):
that he falls down. Fall down, fall down once, get
up once. You know what I mean, Well, go always
get up, always get back up.
Speaker 9 (34:51):
Hey, fellas, we've been talking about that super moon tonight
that's actually called the beaver moon. By the way, just
in case you were wondering, Yes, it's called the beaver moon.
I don't know why I meant to look that up.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Well, beavering and mooning is certainly going to be a
part of my weekend shenanigans.
Speaker 9 (35:09):
Yeah, well, another reason to look up into the sky. Actually,
other than the beaver moon, we had a second day
of the House Committee holding a UFO meetings what's actually
being called the Unidentified Anomalist Phenomena Exposing the Truth hearings. What, well,
you know UFOs are now called UAPs Unidentified Anomalist Phenomena.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
Oh god, you know why because they're coming out of
the water now.
Speaker 9 (35:31):
Yeah, that's a lot. That's a big thing that they're
talking about in these hearings. Another thing is that a
former Pentagon official testified to Congress yesterday that the government
has evidence that we are not alone in the cosmos
and that there's a cabal of officials and that's hiding
the information that's called the immaculate.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
Constantly, why haven't we met any of these well they
say they are, we have met them, and that it's
just being under wraps. Is that we have Why is
it that only people that can keep it under wraps
have met them.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Listen, man, I told everybody there's a show on Amazon
on Prime a documentary called Moment of Contact, which is
unbelievable about this touchdown and recovery of a body.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
In Brazil back in the day, and it is wild,
Like there's like, how do you make that up? There's
no way you can make that up. But like Trump
said this.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
If he got elected, he was going to get to
the bottom of UFOs and he was going to release
the Kennedy document good for the jfk assassination.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
I would like to know about both of those. Yes,
And I don't talk politics, suckers. Yeah, don't be going
on in social media talking about it's sorry to hear
LeVar talking politics.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Give your hard time.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
It's stupid.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
They already give you a hard time for that.
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Sarenara, talk to you next week.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Well, tune in up on game tomorrow, by the way,
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