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November 20, 2024 39 mins

The Old P, Petros Papadakis stops by for his weekly visit. Kevin Stefanski rightly brushes off hot seat chatter. Plus, another edition of Lee’s Leftovers.

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Speaker 5 (01:06):
Here we go.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
He's the old peon X. He's the co host of
the Petros and Money Show, which you can hear on
the Blowtorch and five seven LA Sports. He's a Fox
college football analyst. He is the great Petros papadakas with
us here Pee, what's happening?

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Good morning? Hello, sister Nancy.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Huh We actually we said would Petros know the song?
Which we all agreed you would, and then one of
us said, you lost your virginity to the song.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
No, Sister Nancy though one of the first female DJs
in Jamaican history.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
Come on, talk to him.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
This is one of the most famous songs in Jamaican hits.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
Talk to him, Petros.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I think the I think the rhythm is called taxi
gang on.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
Talk to said the song sucked for a long time.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Well, it's a very famous song.

Speaker 6 (02:07):
She so bummm so what boom bum boom b uppy
boom boom blum boom boom.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
She quit music for a long time and moved the
United States and actually was a president of a bank.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
Oh wow, I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah. And then recently, maybe not recently, maybe about seven
years ago, she started touring again and singing. Because her
music is still pretty popular.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
It's never going to go out of style.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
She's got another song called Pigeon Rock about her pigeons
and how much she likes her pigeons. It's really good.
She's got another song called Transport Connection down where she says,
whether you drive a car or you're a walk foot man,
we all live on this little island.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
I told you all Petros was going to be in
on it.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
No, I like sister names. There's a lot of great
fear email Jamaican kind of toasters, and they've always been
sort of behind because Jamaica is misogynistic in its way,
but especially musically. But she, uh, she's great. Uh. There's
a woman called Patra from the nineties who was awesome.

(03:18):
But Lady Saw, Yeah, Lady saw as the most he
knew how to the one that does the uh the Steve.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
Oh yeah, tell him about how Petra danced.

Speaker 7 (03:29):
Yeah, pull up to my bumper bump for babe, babe,
pull up to it.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
She's my homies.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Uh p.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
The uh the QB switch for USC was that just
because they were playing Nebraska they had success or? Or
is this uh you know what it's gonna look like
moving forward with the final couple of games of their season.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Oh well, I don't know. Uh, Lincoln Riley switched quarterbacks,
probably because there was a bye week and they were
getting a lot of heat. So the bye week was
going to be about him getting fired, and instead it
was about the quarterback change.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
Time made so he flipped it up on him.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Well that happened. Hold times go ahead, Brady, I'm sorry, No,
I was asking, is it you said he's he was
going to get fired on the bye week? Whatever?

Speaker 8 (04:21):
Is that realistic? Isn't the bio it's huge?

Speaker 2 (04:23):
No, he's not going to get fired. But the talk,
you know, the talk was he changed the narrative. No,
I don't think they can fire him this offseason, and
no matter what happens, I just don't think there's anybody
that'll pay that buyout that's involved with the USC not
after I thought.

Speaker 8 (04:38):
I wasn't Crusoe the big donor wasn't he that?

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, we talked about this. Rick Caruso is a guy
who gave ninety million dollars to fire Clay Heltman hire
Lincoln Riley, and that was part of the ten year
deal that Lincoln Riley got and the seventy million dollar
buyout that they're underneath right now, and that was connected
to his mayoral bid in the city of Los Angele,
And they let him speak at the press conference and

(05:03):
half the people wore masks. There were people walking around
cleaning up trash in the background of the coliseum. Very awkward.
And that's the press conference where you don't even know
what Lincoln Riley you got, really don't You really don't know,
and that whole thing that we've talked about. So yeah,
but I don't know if there's somebody that will pay
that out now. So no, that's not my thought. My
thought was just he didn't want to hear two weeks

(05:25):
of we've got to fire Lincoln Riley, who's going to
play this buyout? So they changed the quarterback. Not that
may Ava was bad. He was great against Nebraska, but
I don't think Miller Moss really lost himself that job.
I mean, if you throw the ball thirty times in
the first half of the football game, when your best
player on your offense is the running back and you're

(05:45):
at now in the Big Ten, like, I don't really
want to hear about USC one way or the other
once they lost at Maryland or once they lost at Minnesota,
because at that point, what are we doing? Now you're
worse than a middling Big Ten team and there's nothing
to do. There's nothing to say, regardless of how sexy
you think your coaches. So this is rivalry Week here

(06:08):
in town USC versus UCLA. Usually it's a pretty I mean,
it used to be a whole week where we would
put everybody on that you can think of, and all
this stuff. But now it's kind of sad. Everybody who
I'd want to talk to about Rivalry Week, for the
most part, is dead. You know, all the people we
used to put on. Terry Donahue, John Robinson just passed,

(06:33):
Charles White, Sam Cunningham. The people we want to talk
to about the game aren't with us anymore. We might
throw Ronnie Lott on or something this week, but somebody's like,
well you want Matt Castle. It's like, well, he's not
even on it's the B game for NBC. He's on Army,
Notre Dame.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
Why not Reggie Bush. Reach out to Reggie there?

Speaker 8 (06:56):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
I don't know if he'd want to be I don't
think we can pay the freight to have them on.

Speaker 8 (07:01):
Is there is there is there a fear of being sued.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
After the you know, I try to avoid retigious people
for the most part.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Petros, I want to talk about the other team in
Southern Cows win this past week in Nebraska. It's like
they got to a point this season where they had
five wins. We kind of looked at them and going okay,
like Matt Rules turned this thing around. Four weeks later,
they've lost four straight games. It seems to be all
in with the exception of Indiana, like tight games like

(07:32):
it's it's the same issue they've dealt with. They just
can't seem to pull out some of these one score games.
They got Wisconsin and then at Iowa, did they i mean,
did they get to pull eligible at this point? Did
you did you see enough of that game to get
a fuel for like where this Nebraska team's at.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
You know, it feels exactly like you said, it feels
like they are not helpless. And if you just look
at some of the stuff that we saw early in
the year and see how it's played out, it is
pretty amazing. This has been one of the most confusing
confounding years in the history of college football, maybe just

(08:10):
to see how foreign everything is to everybody else. Almost
all the opponents, all the film, all the different stuff
from playing all the different people. But some of these
teams are just still the same, right Like Nebraska is
a hard luck team that can't find a way to
win down the stretch. Kansas sort of feels like that too,

(08:33):
after feeling really good about what that team was going
to be coming into the year. If you think about
that Nebraska versus Colorado game and what a complete top
to bottom ass whooping it is that the Cornhuskers put
on Colorado, and then you think about what it would
be like if they played today. It's hard to imagine.

(08:54):
What about LSU and USC and of course they're struggling
now too, But you look like a completely different team
in the first game of the year as opposed to
what they're like now. And we made a lot of
proclamations early about who was what and what was what?
I mean Northern Illinois beating Notre Dame, and look at

(09:15):
the direction both of those teams have gone in as
the season has gone on. So it's been it's been
a wild year, and I really like Matt rule two,
but what is it? Year two?

Speaker 5 (09:29):
Year two, year.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Two, and if if they don't get to a bowl
and then year three, you know you're going to start
to hear a lot of buzz around there. If they're
I mean, they want to do what a lot of
teams are doing. Michigan State is doing it, San Diego
State is doing it. Nebraska is doing it on a
bigger stage, I guess week in and week out. But
they're trying to develop around their young quarterback and they're

(09:53):
going to be a lot of growing pains in that regard.
I mean, football is a lot more than quarterback play.
But you're young quarterback is gonna make mistakes and your
team is gonna kind of take on that struggle.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Last week and particularly it looked like he's starting to
kind of fall off a little bit.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Yeah, and you know, look, that's what the season's like.
It's hard, and you know, it's interesting. I don't really know.
Doing games like I do, it's hard to tell whether
teams are just more decimated than they usually are or
thinner than they usually are as far as depth goes
here in November and how the nil and who's on

(10:33):
your team and guys that make business decisions as the
season goes on, after the team loses a couple of games.
All of those things are factored in now and it's
kind of hard to quantify the difference of what our
sport is. But still enjoying doing it all. But yeah,
some of those teams are are frustrating to watch, I'm
sure for their fan base because they're I mean, I'm

(10:56):
doing an Avada game. I mean they've lost like eight
games by one or something. I mean, you're literally in
every game they were. They almost beat SMU, one of
the better teams in the country, in the first game
of the season. And uh, there's a few teams like
that that are kind of in every game but can't
find a way to pull it out. And maybe a
little bit more parody than we thought there would be

(11:17):
in college football even with the modern nl A, I
l A and all the different stuff that we talk about.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
Petro is rivalry weak for you guys. You have U
C l A.

Speaker 7 (11:28):
They're actually doing better than what some people thought that
they would have have done. How how important do you
think it is for these teams to perform well in
in this game? Like does it does it have I mean,
historically it's had a big, big, big influence on recruiting
and in the area. I mean it's now more, you know,

(11:49):
obviously spread out. It's not so much you gotta win California,
but it is still you gotta win California if you're
SC or UCLA.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Right well, I think one of USC's biggest problems right
now under Lincoln Riley is that they're not recruiting California
in the way that they should. They're not building a
fence around the city of Los Angeles in the way
that they should. And I think we've talked about it.
I mean, in the past, for decades, USC has been
the destination on the West Coast to compete with other

(12:19):
teams that are blue bloods everywhere else because consistently compete
with them because they could develop and cultivate offensive and
defensive line play locally. And they've done that for many,
many years. Hall of famers and people that are household
names in football, Anthony Munos, Bruce Matthews, and so on

(12:43):
and so forth. But those guys don't go to USC anymore.
Because USC has an air raid coach and had an
air raid coordinator in Graham Harrell for years, and offensive
linemen have a tendency to shy away from offenses like that.
So where are the offense of linemen on the West
Coast going to be developed? They're going to Oregon, and

(13:05):
Oregon is the number one team in the country and
just made it into the Big Ten Championship because of
a brilliant email that was said last night. So it
is interesting in that regard. It is a big recruiting
game in LA, but both of these teams need to
recruit LA better. Deshaun had some real momentum with three

(13:27):
straight wins, but they lost up at Washington last night,
so that kind of took a lot of the air
out of the balloon for UCLA. They certainly have improved
as the season has gone on, and you have to
give Deshaun Foster credit for that because that's what good
coaches get teams to do down the stretch, and that's

(13:47):
got to be harder to do than ever in this
modern day era. So flipped, I tipped my cap to him,
who has the advantage. Both teams are quite even. It's
not really It's amazing to me how little people care
in town about this game. People are calling it the
empty Seats Bowl.

Speaker 8 (14:08):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
You know two years ago this was Dorian Thompson Robinson
against Caleb Williams for the PAC twelve Championship. Berth to
play Utah, Yeah, yeah, and it was an absolute barn
burner and UCLA had him under Chip Kelly and of
course dtr threw a pick or two or three and
that's what killed it. But this year it just doesn't

(14:33):
have the buzz. And it's interesting also because it's a
seven o'clock kick, and when SEUCLA is not that great
of a game, they push it till later in the day.
And I've called a few of those when they're late
in the day and the longer you leave people out
there tailgating and the later you kick, somebody's gonna get stabbed.

(14:56):
That happened I think it was two thousand. Shouldn't we
should we shouldn't laugh about that? Well, somebody was stabbed
in the face. In the face, yeah, right on that
golf course that UCLA what's it called Brookside golf course
that the Rose Bowl is next to. I don't bee
the fact, great of a golf course, but not in there.
I mean they let everybody park on it. Uh, and

(15:19):
somebody got stabbed in the sand trap right in the face,
in the face in like two thousand and nine because
the tailgate was too late. Very upsetting. Uh.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Petro's I made mention of this earlier this week, and
I'm curious to pick your brain about it. You mentioned
the lack of development on the offensive line because this
air raid system and Wake and Riley and I kind
of go through like the.

Speaker 8 (15:42):
Phil Longo firing at Wisconsin.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
He has air raid roots, and.

Speaker 8 (15:46):
I just I said this earlier this week, like it's
out of style. Well, it's not even that it's out
of style.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
It just has a ceiling, like if you're serious about
really trying to win your conference, win win a national championship,
it just it doesn't seem like any of the guys
that have roots to the air raid system.

Speaker 8 (16:02):
Ultimately can do that.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Like they get to a certain point and then it
just kind of flattens out, like it's too predictable, it's
too easy to attack or for defenses to defend against.
It never really works out. Like they have some red
zone issues, don't they.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
They did well, And yeah, when you're not balanced like that,
or you can't you know, run the football where you
need to but I guess, can you think of an
air raid where you're like, no, yeah, that was the
team that won the national championship using an air raid,
or was able to consistently win their conference using the
air raid system.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
The last roar of the air raid was the TCU run, right,
And that's kind of where those guys are hiding. They're
back in Texas. Now there's a few air raid guys left.
There's Zach Kittley, who works for a defensive coach Joey
McGuire at Texas Tech. There's Kittley's he's the mentor for

(16:51):
the coordinator at Washington State.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Which is interesting you bring up Tech because arguably they're
the best players TODs Brooks the running back exactly.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Well, that's what I didn't anymore, right, And they don't
want to throw it. I mean they don't want to
run it, but they have to because their best players
are running back. I mean, that's the USC's problem. Their
best players would he marks the Mississippi State transfer running
back and Lincoln Riley begrudgingly runs the ball. When he
runs the ball, he didn't want to run the ball. Uh,
It's it's problematic, but yeah, that's that they've kind of

(17:22):
they've kind of run back into the hovels of Texas. Uh,
the air raid people. Graham Harrell was fired as the
OC at Purdue a while back, and they're struggling, of course,
with identity. I think you're absolutely right. I think that
the last big air raid higher was Lincoln Riley at

(17:43):
USC right at the right around the end of it,
Mike Leach passed, one of our favorite people in football history.
And I think you're right. I think it's a I mean,
it was a system designed as a gimmick to keep
up with teams that are physically superior, the same thing
Chip Kelly did with his run game back at Oregon,

(18:03):
spacing and pacing people out, and they made it all
the way to a great BCS title game against Auburn.
Then everybody in the country watched. And Eugene's a small
town and so is Auburn, Alabama. But everybody turned out
to watch that game because all of the regions were involved.
And I think that's usually what's for the best in
college football. But I take your point, Brady, and I've

(18:25):
been I've been noticing that for a long time. I
mean for a while. We talked about the brilliance of
the air raid and pumped all these people up and
built all these graphics on all these shows. And now
these coaches are getting fewer and fewer and farther between
as far as being celebrated, because I think you just
have to be more balanced to have success, and the

(18:46):
air raid people don't really want it to be balanced.
Now everybody's air raid is a little bit different, you know,
all of these Dana Holgerson really changed and used a
tight end and full back because why because when he
was at West Virginia, he had to recruit the local
players or the state would turn on him and burn
him at the stake. And what did he do with
all the local players are tight ends and fullbacks, angry

(19:09):
white guys. So he had to adjust and put them
into his air raid and change. So, I mean, I
hate to paint everything with a broad brush because we
know how nuanced the sport is and how different everybody's
kind of approach is. Like Mike Leach's original approach with
the air raid was, we want to stress the defense

(19:29):
by getting the ball to all five skill position guys
at any time, at any point on the field as
quickly as possible. But there were side effects to that.
They kept a gurney right close to the sideline to
carry the quarterback off because that's basically what would happen
every year. These guys would get destroyed, you know, I mean,
bring out the meat wagon exactly. Gardner Minshew, you know,

(19:52):
I mean he was great, and guys like I mean
it was it was not an air raid. It was
a what did they call it? The run and shoot?
But God rest his soul, Colt Brennan, you know, and
Gardner Minshew, guys like that. They get down in the
red zone where the quarterback usually get sacrificed to the
gods of the defensive line, and these guys would dink
and dunk and fly all over the place. I mean,

(20:14):
Colt Brennan would be horizontal to the ground, you know,
throwing a sidearm pass, you know to some five foot
two sawed off slot guy.

Speaker 8 (20:24):
You know, that's a horse shock you out there.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah. But but I take your point, Brady. None of
those teams are going to line up against Georgia and
have much of a chance, you know, like we saw
with TCU when it finally with TCU beating Michigan in
that college football playoff a couple of years back. Is
really one of the miracles. That's amazing. You know, that

(20:49):
was a pretty amazing moment, and sometimes it happens like that.
But I think your point, as far as the actual
trend is.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Well put out, Petros before I let you go. Do
you have a favorite moment from the usc U c
L A rivalry from when you were playing, like an
interaction with something trying to.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Think about the statute limitations? Oh, well there was one.
There was one. Uh remember that guy, Brandon Ibadasia. Yeah, yes,
he was dating like one of our soccer player or
basketball player at usc and she had said a couple

(21:31):
of things about him and uh, oh he tackled me.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
Oh no, let me dial in.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Well, he tackled me early in the game and he
uh we were in the pile and he grabbed my
ankle and twisted it around the whole thing, you know,
to where I didn't even have to take one shot.
I had to take two shots at halftime.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
Of what of what? Tell the world?

Speaker 6 (21:54):
What?

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Whatever?

Speaker 9 (21:54):
You know?

Speaker 2 (21:55):
The train maybe a little nova cane, some Cortizon.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
Oh thank you? Okay, all right, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Why are all those guys lined up that there's a train.

Speaker 7 (22:06):
There's a t train to run the train. Yeah, buddy,
nectar of the gods.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
How did that guy come out of the locker room
looking so hard?

Speaker 5 (22:24):
We got to hear this story.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
I'm not gonna tell it. I won't have this this
stupid morning show.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
Flash on, all right, come on, you got finished.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
The ankle. The ankle gets gets twist anyway. So I
got mad, and later in the game he tackled me again,
and I told him something about you know, his uh.

Speaker 5 (22:42):
His his girlfriend or I don't know if they were. Yeah,
it was homie.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
And like, what did you tell him? He looked really mad?

Speaker 5 (22:49):
What did you tell him?

Speaker 2 (22:50):
I don't remember, but it's hard to say anything in wealth.

Speaker 7 (22:53):
What context was it?

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Baby? I might have said something about I know that
I know that you pay her parking tickets or something
something like that.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
Oh that's not.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
I can't, but I'll tell you what happened. And he
looked really sad. You know how to make it sound,
you can you really mad in his helmet, you know,
really mad? And uh, of course you know personnel change.
I come off the field and this dude just threw
our left tackle into the stands and just started like
tackling Carson Palmer, sacking everybody. Just he became Superman out there.

(23:32):
After I told him about his girlfriend and I was
standing on the sideline, I'm like, damn, maybe I shouldn't
have said that, and that they beat us, and they're
like chanting eight more years as we walked off the
field and he's like shirtless, flexing on the fifty like.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
The incredible Hulk.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
He was jack like the orange there.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
I shouldn't have said anything about that.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
I get him on. That's exactly how it be sounded to.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
God.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
What at the old pr x Eus Petross Papadegas.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
We appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
We'll do it again next week. There he is. Dudes,
be too much man, y'all too much.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Keep your shirts on that. I love that.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
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Speaker 3 (25:00):
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Speaker 5 (25:06):
You better leave him alone for it. Pop you one,
Pop you one good too.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Damn.

Speaker 5 (25:12):
Right in the mouth, two pros and a cup of Joe.

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Speaker 3 (25:22):
Bely Heels.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
That's where one a bee whoa.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Living in Beverly healed, Beverly.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
I'm sorry, I just I just need to have a
moment there come out.

Speaker 7 (25:40):
We were talking about drinking and I can recall getting
freaking bladed to this song before.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
Man, I was throwing them. I was double fisting out, throwing.

Speaker 7 (25:50):
Long islands up in the air and they were It
was coming out of my cup and this that, and
it was spilling and I didn't even care.

Speaker 11 (25:56):
It was like Beverly h Yeah.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
Everybody knows Weezer's best song, though, man, I don't know
about all that. I just know this one. This one
goes hard. You don't know Weezer's best song? What is it? Really?
What is it? I mean, this is like a no
brainer for everybody living in Beverly Hills. I used to
live in Beverly Hills. It's relatable, I know that.

Speaker 7 (26:23):
Yeah, I had a really good time at the skybar.

Speaker 5 (26:27):
Oh yeah, this is it right here, Weezer's best song,
and everybody knows this is the best one. Let's hear it.

Speaker 8 (26:41):
I almost said something that I would like for sure
dumped for.

Speaker 7 (26:43):
I mean, I was gonna be right there with you. You
want to say it, Come on, I got the red
button right here. No, nope, because it'll make the podcast.

Speaker 11 (26:51):
How is this not your opening?

Speaker 4 (26:53):
That's a great point, because I don't want to make
it too much about me.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
It's all by the way.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
You can hear the Jonas Box Show Saturdays two to
four pm Eastern AM to one pm Pacific time.

Speaker 12 (27:05):
Such a testament text messages, by the way, that would
have gotten dumped.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
Yeah, mom was just as good too.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
You know? Was that what you thought I was gonna say?

Speaker 5 (27:24):
LeVar? You know that was much better? Hate him?

Speaker 2 (27:30):
You know what?

Speaker 11 (27:31):
The what a way to go out?

Speaker 5 (27:33):
That's that's how you. Uh.

Speaker 7 (27:35):
I almost said it too, and I grabbed I grabbed
the dump button. I almost said it, but you know.

Speaker 5 (27:43):
We should have just did it.

Speaker 7 (27:44):
And you want to do it. We could still do it.
We got one good dumping, got one good dumping.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
Us, don't dump.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
Tell us what we can and can't do. That red
button is staring me right in the face right now.
You gonna just take a good moment of me having
Beverly Hills and you want to turn it into that.
See that's that I mean. You show people you're true
you every once in a while. Man, you sent you
sent Lee out upset. Lee was upset with you when
he left the studio, and then you want to be

(28:13):
a jerked eys when we we do the opening to
the segment you're talking about.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
That's you, Jonas, that's you. Tell them.

Speaker 7 (28:21):
I was very offended there you go, I apologize and
I could I could feel it coming up off of him,
like I.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
Felt the vibe. Man, you were feeling the whole BA.

Speaker 7 (28:31):
I'm just saying, it's just what you do, Jonas. Natural instigator. Man,
you was the brother and the family that was the
natural instigator. And sometimes it got your ass beat by
your brothers, and sometimes it got somebody else's beat ass
beat because you instigated and your brothers beat their asses
at times.

Speaker 5 (28:47):
Yeah, sometimes you know.

Speaker 7 (28:50):
That's how why I started working out and became good
ass sports because I would instigate and my brother would
beat my ass. True story. Yeah, he was good with
his hands. Man tap me yep, like three four shots,
three four piece. And his name was Mike. So imagine
back in them days, Iron Mike was the guy like
we just saw, not the guy we just saw with
Jake Paul, but the other one that we saw with

(29:11):
other guys and my brother was Iron Mike.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
I mean that's how I started. Yeah, I started lifting.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
But you you're you're.

Speaker 7 (29:17):
An instigator, bro. I can't believe you just gaslight gas
lit Lee like that and then sent him in there
to do the do do this segment?

Speaker 5 (29:26):
Man, are you okay? Lee?

Speaker 11 (29:29):
I'll get over it.

Speaker 5 (29:29):
Okay, all right, Riverside get over it now. We should
here from hitting with the Riverside.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
You know.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Apparently we were talking about dysfunctional teams in the NFL.
Earlier in the show, the Cleveland Browns made that list
dysfunctional organizations. Apparently there's been some speculations, some conversation that
maybe Kevin Stefanski could be on the hot seat for
some reason whatsoever.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
I mean, who knows that? So Stefanski was asked about
it yesterday.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
You grew up what's an under wip two and eight?

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Your name is shown up Ony hot seat less.

Speaker 5 (30:04):
I'm gonna be getting how do you.

Speaker 11 (30:05):
Feel going into this thresh draft stretch of Pittsburgh, Denver, Pittsburgh.

Speaker 9 (30:10):
I think probably because I grew up listening to that,
I'm smart enough to not worry about outside noise. I
get that's part of this gig. That's life from the
big city. My sole focus is getting this team ready
to get a win on Thursday night.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
Why the hell would Stefanski be on the hot season.

Speaker 7 (30:27):
Because he only has two wins? I mean, that's just
like to me, that would be the obvious reason why.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
I think anybody with a pair of eyes can see
what's happening there and going that sounds Stefanski like, that's
that That too is also what's happening there with ownership.

Speaker 7 (30:46):
I could sit there and say, the reason why I
scored low test scores at moments in time in class
was based upon how I was taught, not how I test.

Speaker 5 (30:56):
Agreed and and and you know what.

Speaker 7 (30:59):
At the end of the day, that's the test score
that I earned, and that's the test score that's going
to go in the great book, and that's the test
score that I have to live with. I can honestly
sympathize with coaches like Stefanski being in a situation he's in,
but it does not absolve him from the situation and

(31:21):
the circumstances that he finds himself in, which is a
failing team that he is the head coach of that
he made it a point to say it's his final
decision as to who goes on that field and who plays,
especially when Deshaun Watson was still coming or playing on
the team. So to me, I listen, whether right, whether wrong,

(31:44):
whether fear unfair. He's the head coach of a two
to win team, it has to be a discussion as
to if he is the proper coach for the team.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
I think the tough thing is it probably would be
an easy decision if they didn't do what they did
a year ago. You know, when you when you're able
to guide a team with multiple backups, playing a quarterback,
amongst other things, to the playoffs, I think there's a
sense of like, look, that was an anomaly that doesn't
happen very often. We can point to other examples of

(32:18):
that with Doug Peterson and Nick Foles and how that worked.

Speaker 5 (32:20):
Out for the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
But it's rare.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
I mean, it's why I don't know, I've been trying
to think of another time in NFL history where you're
gonna have a backup essentially leading to maybe you count
Tom Brady the first one for blood set. I mean,
I just it's very rare that it works out that way,
and I think he should get the benefit of the
doubt in my mind. You know, this the situation Cleveland's in,

(32:44):
he was put in, meaning Kevin Stefanski, he didn't sign
up for this and maybe became the head coach there.
You know, there's people who threw the Deshaun Watson contract
and quarterback situation on him and on the rest of
the team for that matter, and it feels like they've
been battling that every single year the past couple of years,

(33:06):
or every single week it seems at times. And that
seems to be more of the issue with that organization
more so than Kevin Stefanski. Kevin Stefanski has been coached
here twice. Like, I don't think there's a question about
whether or not he can coach, whether or not he
can battle through adversity.

Speaker 8 (33:24):
This year hasn't worked out to be the case, but
more often than not with a healthy roster. I think
they're competitive. I think they're gonna be a playoff team.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
But again, they've got this thing hanging over their head
because the position that Jimmy has them, their owner put
them in. When you sign a quarterback, when you trade
for a quarterback, you give up that conversation you sign
them to that contract. Especially with everything else off the field.
You think it was just Andrew Berry and Kevin STEFANSI,
who are put like their brain trust together, go hey,

(33:56):
we really like Deshaun Watson. We'd like to sign them,
and then it has them just gives them the thumbs up.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
No, they're probably sorting through all of the lawsuits and
any information they can get in all that stuff, going, Man,
if we're gonna bring this guy in and we're gonna
give him this contract in order to you know, have
him come to Cleveland and not go to Atlanta where
he thought he was gonna be going, we'll better make
pretty damn sure that he's gonna be the guy like

(34:24):
this stuff isn't gonna come out and come back to
bite us.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Like that involves your owner because it reflects on him.
And now we fast forward what two years after the fact,
and it's been a disaster. I don't know if he's
willing to cut bait and move on, but I mean,
at some point that's the problem with this whole situation.

Speaker 8 (34:43):
It's not Stefanski.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
He's not the issue in Cleveland.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
I think people around the NFL recognize that it's not
Stefanski's idea to pay two hundred and thirty million dollars
to a weirdo. But they do recognize and even if
it were, how do you get that approved?

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Right?

Speaker 7 (34:59):
If that's if that's it's not an ownership deal, how
do you get that amount of money approved guaranteed to
a play in the NFL?

Speaker 4 (35:05):
He took an organization that han't been to the postseason
in decades to the playoffs twice translator, two different.

Speaker 7 (35:13):
Two different quarterbacks, which, by the way, to Q's point,
I mean, you see what happens if you look at
one another and you look at the owner and you say,
are you being are you being serious right now? Are
you being serious? Both them men gone? So say something

(35:34):
to the owner if you want to.

Speaker 4 (35:35):
It's a Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox
with you. Coming up next, we're going to close up
shop with another edition of Lee's Leftovers.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
Right here on FSR.

Speaker 10 (35:45):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Alrightrrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. We
are going to be back on the air tomorrow, six
am Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific, same time, same place.
Before we get to another edition of Lee's Leftovers, though,
I want to remind you that if you've missed any
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Speaker 3 (36:27):
These might smell.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
A little fun.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
What is that?

Speaker 10 (36:29):
Sounds incredible, but they're still good time to find out
what's left.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
It's Lee's leftovers?

Speaker 5 (36:36):
All right, the lap? What do we got?

Speaker 11 (36:38):
Not too many leftovers? Before I'm out the door to
Green Bay. Uh So I got a middle of down
and just let letting you guys know. Uh mister Eric
from Prestige his celebration of life is tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (36:50):
I'll be checking that out, okay, So.

Speaker 11 (36:52):
All right, all right, P my guy, all right, P Eric,
good job man?

Speaker 1 (36:55):
What up?

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Eric?

Speaker 11 (36:58):
On top of that, buddy? On top of that, I'm packed.
I'm ready to go. I think I got everything I need.
I got all my warm stuff. Is there anything I
need for this trip that I'm forgetting some bluetooe Okay,
I'll grab some.

Speaker 8 (37:12):
Take take your aj Hawk, Jersey.

Speaker 11 (37:14):
I can't find it, okay in my storage unit somewhere.

Speaker 8 (37:19):
Do you think it's in your storage unit?

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Or did it get stolen out of the back of
your car during that soup kitchen?

Speaker 11 (37:25):
That's I would not.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
Put it back your tire rack. Emergency kit yep, yep.

Speaker 11 (37:34):
I'm gonna be renting a car and.

Speaker 7 (37:35):
You're you're make sure you have an emergency Better Help
card in your uh in your wallet so if you
need some therapy while you're there, you're able to contact them.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
Correct.

Speaker 11 (37:46):
Yeah, if I'm drinking a little too much, I need
a little help, you know.

Speaker 7 (37:48):
I'm like, hey, you know, make sure you have your
app downloaded for DraftKings so that you can go on draft.

Speaker 11 (37:56):
That's what I That's what I was thinking, is can
I I can do that?

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Right?

Speaker 5 (37:59):
Make sure are you in California?

Speaker 12 (38:01):
Nie?

Speaker 7 (38:02):
Pizza oven locator in your phone so that you can
go find a place where you can eat great eats
that are used in unie, you know ovens.

Speaker 11 (38:10):
Speaking of which I'll probably be eating a lot of
cheese curts.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
Okay, there you go, there you go?

Speaker 7 (38:14):
All right, Okay, you got that's I think that would
end it for the checklist for me of offerings to use.

Speaker 11 (38:20):
Is there any place you recommend I need to go
outside of the game, like in Greek?

Speaker 1 (38:25):
I mean, dang so like a true Bears fan, I
mean to check out Chicago anyway, though, so what but a.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
Good stick go to Milwaukee? Well, I out in Milwaukee.

Speaker 11 (38:39):
I will be in I will be flying into Milwaukee.
But if anyone wants to tweet me some recommendations of
what to check out at lead a lap.

Speaker 7 (38:46):
I'm gonna connect you with my home man he might
be there. If he's there, you guys should hang out.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
By the way, Lee, This is a late kick. So
this is a four to twenty five eastern kick. Yeah,
so I think is Tom Brady on the call? I
think yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:59):
So.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
Uh, I'm gonna get a little more chilly than that
it would have if it was an earlier.

Speaker 11 (39:04):
Kids, about thirty degrees.

Speaker 5 (39:06):
Are you ready for that? Are you sure you're ready
for that?

Speaker 11 (39:08):
I'm a little nervous. I'm a little I was. I've
always said I want to go when it's snowing and
uh and cold. But I'm second guess.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
I mean, you've got a scarf on right now in
the studio.

Speaker 8 (39:18):
Well, what do you bring.

Speaker 11 (39:19):
Into I've gotten a lot of thick long Johns. I've
heard compression compression pants and unders is a good call,
and uh, hand warmers and feet warmers.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
There you go.

Speaker 11 (39:30):
I got my Green Bay jacket. All right, I'm a
hit up that pro shop.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
Hey, good luck to you, Matt. All right, one more
to come, one more to go, have a good time. Man,
get a bail on us. He'll be all right.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah, just survived.
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