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January 9, 2025 39 mins

The guys break down the Orange Bowl in Miami as LaVar's Penn State faces off against Brady's Notre Dame including the keys to winning. Albert Breer also joins the show and we end things with another edition of Lee's Leftovers.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a
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(00:20):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Give this you're.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Oh yeah, a little white zombie just what you need
to get it kickstarted. Here live from the Orange Bowls.
We get set for the Two Pros and a Cup
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Speaker 5 (01:11):
There's a convention going on. There are bugs flying around.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yeah, I still bleme that on Pigpen Lee.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
Lee's conversing with members of the hotel.

Speaker 6 (01:23):
I'm back, fellas, he's I feel good, he feels good,
feel good.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I'm back. He's got his leg. You belt on again,
pulled my pants back up.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
We pissed somebody off? What happened?

Speaker 7 (01:33):
No, we we figured out what was what was going
on with the uh with whats going on?

Speaker 5 (01:41):
It was the lobby music.

Speaker 7 (01:42):
Somehow being pumped through our system. I've never we've never
encountered this.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
How is that possible? You know, you'll find something new.

Speaker 7 (01:50):
Every day, the best thing about our business, and we
figured it out problem solving.

Speaker 6 (01:55):
Check that cigar and you're it's probably like one hundred
dollars cigar.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, let me see it, let me see it. No,
it's a cigar, Juliet. That's a it's like a limited.
It's a it's a wide church hill and it is
a cuban.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
I destroyed. It's expensive. I destroyed it. Yeah he did.
That's a shame. A rough day, rough day for a
var It's still good, it's still good.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Why would hotel lobby music be piped in through.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
R after the party?

Speaker 6 (02:29):
It's the hotel lobby after the lobby is the.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Are you trying to piece that together?

Speaker 6 (02:34):
There's probably Chris, I'm going to smoke this.

Speaker 7 (02:37):
I mean, I can give some theories about why that
would happen, but not right now.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
If they're if they're using.

Speaker 7 (02:44):
Internet boy to use to work the lobby music, then
we're using their internet you mixed in.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I don't know. That's the only way I get figured.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
I'm still concerned about the fact that I ruined a
Cuban cigar.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Right, I'm gonna smoke. It's just I want to be
as good. You got some chapstick? No, for real?

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Put he put some chapstick on it? No on that
on the end. Yeah, where you're gonna smoke from? Because
that might help moisty, because I think looks tried out.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
I have chapstick.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, right, if you have something put on there help interesting? Okay? Yeah,
I have something just on that and you smoke it
from you. I'm not using your chapstick.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
You want to use mine's hell, no cap for damn
got jim Bean flavored chapstick?

Speaker 2 (03:27):
You got blood DNA on your chap stick.

Speaker 6 (03:31):
Coconut probably has like feces like rimnants on his.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
You know's got coconut and shade butter and tell you what,
tell you what what?

Speaker 1 (03:46):
LaVar about ready to run a cement truck. He's having
some conversations over here.

Speaker 6 (03:50):
By the way, I mean construction needs to have you know, inclusion.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
You haven't pulled out whoa, you haven't pulled out a
nine millimeter oh low, dark gun and like nothing.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, because I'm very respectful. Oh yeah, that's right, very.

Speaker 6 (04:07):
Respectful, Like like, it's one thing to shoot out a TV.
It's another thing to shoot at a person and in person.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
That's gonna change things.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
That's all right.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
That said, The game is tonight.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Kickoff seven five?

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Yeah, at the Orange Bowl? How about them fighting Irish?

Speaker 5 (04:28):
So Brady and iw were kind of kicking this around
during the break.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
What were you kicking around?

Speaker 8 (04:32):
So if you were to, if you are a gambler
and you want to go to draft Kings, list some
of these numbers you wanted to play some of the
player prop bets. Okay, yeah, Riley Leonard over under passing
yards for the game's Jeremiah Love over under rushing yards
for the game is a thirty eight. Yeah, So if

(04:54):
you're getting one hundred and seventy in the air and
thirty eight from your best running back, how you score points?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, that's a problem.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Well, so the love prop bet is a byproduct of,
obviously the concern about his injury. And he's going to go.
That's what Marcus Freeman said yesterday. To what extent how
healthy he is, We're gonna have to wait and see,
but if you can't go, it'll be jendarium price. We've
seen Williams two, the freshman in the backfield, and honestly

(05:23):
it's the semi final game like this is one. This
is a deal where I don't know how many carries
rather than it's gonna get. But I would if you
look at his prop bet for attempts, I would I
bet it's probably said at twelve and a half fourteen
and a half. I would take the over because I
think the one advantage Notre Dame has is a running
quarterback that, as LeVar knows, it simplifies things you could

(05:43):
do defensively, and it puts a lot of pressure on
those safeties to make a decision like are they going
to creep down in the box? Cornerbacks are on islands.
That opens up things for Jordan Faison bo Collins who
had a touchdown last week, Faizon who's got a lot
of speed, or do you guys just put you know,
a single safety, one extra guy in the box and
try to play a gap and a half up.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Front with your defensive line, which may be effective too.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
So it's a schematic thing when you've got a quarterback
who can run, because you don't play a lot of
Manda man, you got to be concerned about that if
you don't have some responsible for the quarterback, and then
it forces pressure on those safeties and making some decisions there.

Speaker 6 (06:20):
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they had the way.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Not a good side for Notre Dame though, Like those
prop bets, those numbers are very concerning, Like you know
what I'm saying, Like you're gonna have to have more
production than two hundre and eight yards from two of
your best players in passing game, running game.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
I think if you don't have a healthy love in
this game, it totally throws off the balance of what
you're going to try to establish in this game. And
I think for Notre Dame to have a real opportunity
in this game, they have to.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Establish to run.

Speaker 6 (06:57):
Yeah, I really do I think that nothing screams at
me that this team can win the game by passing
the ball and that being their first option. So if
someone can't step up and step in and feel the
production or the big, big play that you could receive

(07:20):
from a love in the running game, that's going to
be a tremendous to me, that's a disadvantage. A further
disadvantage I will say, for this injured and banged up
you know, Notre Dame.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
Team Riley Leonard.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
I don't see the rushing attempts, but rushing yards fifty
so right around fifty.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, he had won eighty something in the last game.
He was a leading rush rating. I know, I know
he threw for like ninety yards.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
But here's how I see this.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
I mean, I don't the hard thing about trying to
establish the run. Again, when you have a quarterback, it
makes things a little easier, but you know, you almost
sometimes have to throw to open it up. And I
think the hard thing is is for Penn State, if
I'm scouting them, I'm Tom Allen, their defensive coordinator.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Everything's short. I mean, they do have speed, the ability.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
To get behind a defense, but Notre Dame has not
done that very well, or Riley Leonard has not done
that very well. So, like my concerns are, if it
becomes a game where Penn State's not respecting getting beat deep,
that's a problem because it's gonna be harder to like
all the quick game, you know, the screens, the RPO,

(08:32):
all that stuff. It's only effective if you get a
little bit of space, a little bit of cushion. And
if they're not respecting any of the pass game or
the ability for someone to beat them deep, then they're
gonna stack the bucks to stop the run and say
like we're gonna force a bunch of three and ounts,
We're gonna limit your possessions. Because I know Andy Kodle NICKI,
I know Penn State's offensive line are some bruisers. They

(08:54):
got two great backs and they're gonna hammer away at
running the football. I think this is gonna be a
ugly game. I think this would be extremely ugly game,
like leaning towards the under, but like it's just gonna
be one of those. It has a big ten feel
to it, you know, old school big ten. I would
be shocked if one team really runs away with it.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
I think it's being really tight game. So you like
the unders what you're saying, I'm leaning towards it. It's
a low number, is it? Forty four and a half?

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Forty five and a half, so like a twenty three
to twenty score a twenty seven like it feels like
that to me. Again, I'm not factoring in Notre Dame,
which I think they if they have an advantage in
any part, it's probably special teams.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
So we're getting a defensive battle at Joe Robbie Stadium.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
That's exactly what we met.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Rob.

Speaker 6 (09:40):
I believe that this game will be close, but it
will be deceptively close. And the reason why I believe
it'll be deceptively close is based upon the fact that
if if Notre Dame can't run the ball effectively, and
not being able to run the ball effective lead and

(10:00):
now you're talking about they have to lean on and
depend on.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Their ability to pass the ball in this game.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
I think that it's problematic for this outfit, and I
think it exposes some things with Notre Dame that may
create it may create difficulties for them being able to
generate points and if they are, if they are struggling

(10:30):
to generate points and Penn State does what Georgia should
have did, which Penn State will do. There's no question
about it that Penn State will lean into putting that
pressure on Notre Dame to stop the run and have
to stop the.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Run over and over and over again.

Speaker 6 (10:52):
I do not know that Notre Dame's defense can hold
up under that type of duress and pressure for four quarters.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
And that would be my That would be what I think.

Speaker 6 (11:06):
Is is how this game may may play out. But
with that being said, there is there is the idea
that there could be big plays generated on offense for
Notre Dame. If Penn State isn't what they need to
be in making sure they do what they need to

(11:29):
do win Notre Dame decides that they're going to throw
the ball.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I will say this much, this has to be a
gaming you're excited about because and I know you're a
hyped up about Penn State's linebackers Tony Rojas, so many
of the like good players in that side.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Notre Dame has got a lot of great linebackers too.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
If there's a position group to watch every single series
on the field.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
I interviewed, Kay's are not too long, Yeah, Jack, Kay's
is very very impressive young men.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Well, but all these I mean, both these teams have depth,
They've athletes, They've got incredible linebackers, Like you can make
the case I think too, like if there's one position
group and I that's gonna like make or break this game,
it's probably the linebacking groups on both these teams. And
I think that factors in for Notre Dame, like how
do you match up with Tyler Warren and you know

(12:16):
in the passing game and also that and and you
know obviously again mistackles.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Tackles and space all those things.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
But if there's one position group I'd watch that, I'm
excited as like a football geek to watch.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
It's actually the linebacking group. Like these two.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Teams have guys who are gonna be playing in the
NFL starting on Sundays at linebacker, playing special teams forever,
Like they're those sorts of players.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
It's got to be frustrating just talking about Jeremiah Love
and Abdull Carter. Look, if they play, they're not it's
clearly not going.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
To be at full capacity. And then there are the
two best players.

Speaker 6 (12:45):
Say that I would not say that, I would anticipate
Abdull Carter being able to play at a high level.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
To all, why did he finish the last game?

Speaker 5 (12:57):
Are the nectar gods going to be pressed?

Speaker 2 (12:59):
I believe he was. He was hurt.

Speaker 6 (13:04):
He was hurt in that game, and and it was
obviously it was a you know, I don't want to
say what it Whatever was reported is what it was.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
And it was a testicular what it was. No, No,
it was his shoulder. It wasn't. It wasn't his nuts.
I thought it might be. I thought it might have been.
It was.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
Yeah, he's out for the rest of the game.

Speaker 6 (13:29):
These these are the reason for his sitting out. That's
not going to be the reason. And I do not
believe that. In fact, I would say that Abdul Carter
will be a part of why there's so much pressure
on that.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
On that Notre Dame. Two best prospects though in the game,
in my opinion, well I did Tyler Warren abd Carter.

Speaker 6 (13:57):
I would say there's a couple, there's a couple of
really really good. But I don't think he has to
be one hundred percent for him to have the type
of impact on the game that is going to be
If he were one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Here's the only thing I'll say, I mean, and that's fine,
is if you go back to watch the Georgia game,
Like I really thought Jalen Walker would have a bigger
impact than he did in that game. And he's also
held the Buscos Award winner. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and he
really so. Credit credit Joe Rudolph, the offensive line coach
at Notre Dame. Like they've been able to find ways
of nullifying some of those those players who are you

(14:34):
know again, impactful players.

Speaker 6 (14:36):
I think this is a different this is a different animal.
I think this defense is a little different than Georgia's defense.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
It's different.

Speaker 6 (14:45):
I think they're they think Georgia was fast and I
think Georgia was physical.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
But I will say that.

Speaker 6 (14:53):
Tom Allen is is a real you know Tim Tom
Tom Tom.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Tim Allen's from Hoping Prove Yeah, or Santa Claus. Santa
Claus he played in that. Oh you don't like been
for Tools, I'm okay.

Speaker 6 (15:10):
With Home improve Yeah whatever, anyway, however you're not going
to do it.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (15:17):
I think he's a really good play caller. I think
he has al Borland.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (15:24):
I think he has shown the ability to adapt and
adjust what he's doing with his defense in games, which
is very, very critical to having success. I just think
that this is going to be an uphill battle for
Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
I really so. Let me let me give you some sass.
Let me give you some stats. If you held the
opponent to under two hundred and forty five yards total offense, yeah,
four or fourteen on third down?

Speaker 6 (15:51):
Yeah all right for one on the one fourth down,
they should win that game. You should win that game.
But they didn't.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
That was Georgia last wee versus Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
So so one of the things again, and this is
why you play the game, is there's so many like
ball security, right, Georgia turned it over twice, their name,
capitalized on at stripsack, turned into a touchdown.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
They gave him a special teams touchdown. Like that's the unknown.

Speaker 6 (16:11):
I think that was the I think that that was
the differentiator right the game, right out of half that halftime. Yeah,
that swing, that quick swing with it it was fourteen points. Yeah,
that that was a very quick swing. I just don't
First of all, he's not going to really, he's not
going to get the opportunity to return a kick. You

(16:32):
think he shouldn't our guy is going to kick the
ball out of dan zone. He's going to he's going
to keep it in the end zone. I mean he's
he's six foot, he's a.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Boy's yeah, he's like, he's like the dude.

Speaker 6 (16:44):
It was a number ninety eight, seven foot man, and
he puts all of that seven foot into that ball.
I mean, he really kicks that ball, really kicks. He
kicks out of that ball.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
But here's the only thing I'll say too, and regards
that Jeremia Love and his effectiveness in the game, he
didn't have twenty yards in the last game. So like,
as much as we want to make his status and
that prop bet number at thirty eight yards one are
good friends with DraftKings, they didn't need it to win
last time.

Speaker 4 (17:15):
It's going to be so frustrating, though, man, Like you like,
you're two of the main reasons those two teams are
where they are, and you're going in knowing that you're way.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Less than one hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (17:26):
I like the fact that's frustrated.

Speaker 6 (17:28):
I like the fact that Notre Dame will not be
one hundred percent going into this game. I like the
fact that they had to fight their way through beating Georgia,
and I like the fact that we really didn't have
to fight.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Or SMU for that matter.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
I mean, Kevin Jennings is still throwing interceptions right now.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
I'm saying, so if we thought out by the way
we can minimize, we can minimize the opponents that that
Penn State has gone up against.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
What I will say.

Speaker 6 (18:02):
What I will say is outside of Abdul's shoulder, uh
was it whatever? Outside of these with with with Abdul
and him fighting through that, this team is very healthy.
They're they're really in a lot of ways, they're very
rested because it's been games that I would would say

(18:26):
have been very very critical games and getting good reps,
and so to me, I really feel as though, looking
at the way it's set up, it would be a travesty.
It would be a travesty if if Notre Dame were

(18:48):
to be because the only way they can win this
game is the same way they won their last game,
which is Penn State will have to be out coached.

Speaker 5 (18:57):
So what you're saying is it would be bad for
college football if Notre Dame.

Speaker 6 (19:00):
No, it would be bad for James Franklin if Notre
Dame wins and I'm being honest, this would be a
tragic loss. With all things given, all circumstances given, coming
into this game, it would be a tragic loss for
James Franklin as the head coach of Penn State.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
He'd be one and fifteen or his top five opponents.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
And that would be and it's a damning number for
what it's for, what it's worth, For what it's worth,
it would be coaching.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
That's the reason why, Wow, Penn State loses a lot
of pressure, a lot of pressure, a lot of pressure.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.

Speaker 4 (19:38):
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
Knox be live from the Orange Bowl here in South Florida,
getting ready for the big game between Penn State and
Notre Dame coming up next here though we transition over
to the NFL. We've got rumors, we've got reports. Could
a coaching hire be on the brink.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
We'll get the latest next year.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
On FSR.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
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Speaker 4 (20:13):
It's two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio.
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas NOx with you here. Coming
up in a little over fifteen minutes from now here
from the tire Rack dot Com studios, we are going
to have another edition of Lee's Leftovers that'll be yours
here on FSR. We are live here from the Orange
Bowl in South Florida, getting ready for the two Pros

(20:33):
and a Cup of Joe Bowl starring Penn State and
Notre Dame. And right now, before we get more into
that game, we turn it over to a man who's
got a big game coming up against Texas himself, the
one and only Albert Breer. Yeah, the pride of Ohio State.
Albert Breer, also the Star. Just ask him of Amazon's

(20:53):
Thursday night coverage of the NFL on Prime.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
Senior NFL reporter.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Lead Content Strategy said, the m m QB get them
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Speaker 9 (21:04):
Hey, what's up, guys, didn't know you're making the trip
to the Constellation. Came out there.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Oh wow, big big words, big words.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
You know, it's funny. We actually saw some.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Michigan fans come here because they were like, well, you know,
we didn't beat either one of these two teams when
we beat Ohio States.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
That's just what the guy told me. He said, Look,
I can win it. Whatever they want.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
He's like, we beat them, so go ahead and put
on your national championship banner.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
You can just go I didn't beat Blue.

Speaker 9 (21:37):
Don't listen to a the Michigan fans. We don't tell you.
They're rooting hard for Texas right now, and they will
be rooting hard if we advance for for one a
year two schools, so they do not want to see
us win it.

Speaker 6 (21:50):
You guys are playing the best football of any teams
by far.

Speaker 9 (21:53):
But I h'all, I'll do what the feeling is mutual?

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Yeah, no, where you go, No where I want to
switch gears. Ask you about some of the latest updates
and the coaching numbers. I want to start off with
Bill Belichick because I think when we saw it take
the North Carolina job, everyone looked at it with some
side eye thinking, all right, like is he really doing this?
And we saw the buyout for ten million bucks before
what end won? Then it turns into a million Why
he wasn't in an NFL team more motivated to interview

(22:24):
him potentially hire him before he took the North Carolina job.

Speaker 9 (22:28):
Are we sure he signed this contract in North Carolina?

Speaker 1 (22:31):
You know it's a great point because those things drag
on forever.

Speaker 9 (22:35):
Oh yeah, I mean, I like, I think there are
a lot of questions you got to ask here, you
know what I mean? Like, and I honestly like, I
like and you guys, you know, you guys know this
as well as I do. Generally, like when this stuff
comes up, isn't like, especially when a coach is like recruiting, Like,
isn't it sort of in his best interest to come

(22:56):
and stamp it out right away? You know what I mean?
Like going your normal And you know I don't cover
the college football, and maybe I don't fall quite as
close as I do the NFL. But I feel like
usually like when this speculation starts to bubble up, you know,
don't you generally get the coach coming right out and
saying like somehow getting out like I am not interested,
Like I I think I appreciate people asking, but I'm

(23:20):
not interested to try to knock it down. And I
don't know that we've seen that quite yet, right, Okay.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
I get that, but then why take the job. He's
that recruiting, He's visiting like barbecue spots.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
He's like doing that. It's amazing, it's great content on
social media.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
But he's also not Like he doesn't strike me as
a type that just goes through the motions.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Albert, he strikes me. No.

Speaker 9 (23:46):
I think I think he's Look, I'm being Devil's advocate here.
I think he attends a coaching in North Carolina in
twenty twenty five. But like, I you know, I think
there's also a very real lot a cool practical reason
why he's you know, taken the path that he's taken.
I think he badly wanted to coach this year, like

(24:08):
and I think that that's of the year off like
basically showed him like I need to coach, Like I
want to get back to coaching. I'm not done coaching.
I need to you know, I like, I'm I'm not retired.
So like that was number one number two, you know.
I think it's like he started to survey the landscape.
There was a how much interest is there out there?
And me and be I mean it was all due

(24:30):
or sect how much do I want to work for
some of these day holes, you know what I mean? Like,
and I think having the thirty thousand foot view of
the NFL made him look and say, I wouldn't want
to work there. I wouldn't want to work there. That
place is a bleep show, you know. And so I
think that there's that element of it, like where it
was like, how many like do I really want? Like

(24:52):
if I if I badly want to coach, right, like,
how many of these jobs do I really actually want?

Speaker 2 (24:58):
You know?

Speaker 9 (24:58):
And how many of these jobs actually really fit for me?
So you know, I think what going to college did
for him, it gave him the chance to get back
to coaching. I know him coaching now right like now
I know him coaching next year regardless. And then you know,
if in a year or two a really enticing NFL
situation comes along, wasn't yeah, I would, I would definitely
do that. Now, could that get accelerated? Where's the here

(25:22):
and the now? I don't think so. But if I
know anything about Bill, like I know like he like
sinks all of these things through and he doesn't leave
any stone unturned. And that's why I always thought it
was funny when like you know, back in back in
I was seven during Spygate where it was like oh yeah,
like this like little rule swept by like we didn't know,

(25:43):
Like yeah, right, you didn't know you're Bill Belichick. You know,
you know what I mean? Like, yeah, I guess. So
I feel like in all these like like with with
the way all this has set up and the way
all the way, he's kind of, you know, given himself
a chance here to coach in twenty twenty five. I

(26:03):
think it was always with the idea like I may
or may not be done coaching in the NFL, but
at the very least I know I want to coach
this year, and this gives me an opportunity to do it.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get
him on x at Albert Brier. All right, So Mike Rabel,
first of all, I just want to say this. I
think robber Craft's full of crap when he comes out
and says he felt so bad about what happened with
girod Mayo and I put him in such a bad
spot if Mike Rabel wasn't available, would robber Craft had

(26:35):
fired Drod Mayo this offseason?

Speaker 9 (26:39):
I think maybe like I think Brabel. I think the
Vrabel thing, the Rabel's availability, I think accelerated it and
kind of made it.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
He was available last offseason, wasn't he? And he was?

Speaker 9 (26:54):
But like I think that at that point they had
written into the contract that Mayo was going to see Belichick,
and I think at that point they didn't want to
screw Mayo. Now they wind up screwing Mayo anyway, you.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Know exactly, so why go through with it?

Speaker 9 (27:09):
But I here here here but but but I think
part of it Brady, Like I I think Robert Kraft,
I think that the ownership there, they have rabid years
and they they have heard everything, and like they I
think are very sensitive to criticism and to the idea
that there are some sort of clown show organization now

(27:29):
and you know that there's like this emperor has no
close dynamics to to to what's happened in New England
over the last five years, where you know, was it
this Tipney organization or was it the coaching quarterback you know,
who were sort of propping a lot of things up,
and so you know, has that perception sort of grown
and is like they've gone through some of the as

(27:50):
they went through some of those things that were really
embarrassing over the course of the year. You know, I
don't know how close do you guys followed any of that,
but like there was, I mean some of the stuff
that Jon Mayo was saying during the then had to
take back the next day. There was the benching of
Vermandre Stevenson a couple of weeks ago that like the
production you know, like the the that was set in

(28:11):
the production meeting obviously that you know, like Ross Tucker
mentioned on the air and that the vocal radio guys
had that he doesn't do that. Like it was just
it was a series of I think embarrassing events in
addition to the losing that made it look like this
was not just a struggling organization. This was legitimately like
a bottom of the league organization. And I think it

(28:32):
was an unwillingness to see it through and have patients
with a young coach who was still who's still trying
to find his wife, which is.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Like what I go back to is how do you
hire guys never been a head coach before. Not give
him some grace and not go and this is not
you know what I'm saying he's never done this before.
He's not going to be perfect at it the first year.
He's going to need a few years to be able
to get this under his belt, right, right.

Speaker 9 (28:56):
And I think it was just it was not having
the it was not having thick enough skin. I think
it's the best way to put it, to deal with
all the slings and arrows.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Robert Kraft is soft yet, that's what I heard.

Speaker 5 (29:08):
Because he is.

Speaker 9 (29:10):
I'm just I'm just like, if you think about it, right, like,
when have they dealt with this before? When they bought
the team. Bill Parcells was the coach, right right, I
was we got was eighth grade. I was n eighth grade
when they bought the team, and they won ten games,
like Robert Craft's first year. They had a step back
year in Parcels second year, and then they have like

(29:31):
a tough year in Belichick's first year. Other than that,
they haven't lost it all, you know what I mean. Like, so,
I mean Pet Carroll bottomed out. He was eight and
eight the year he got fired, you know, so they
haven't really like over thirty years, they haven't really ever
had to deal with like, oh yeah, now you're the
laughing stock of the NFL, and then you know it's
really easy to get it.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
We don't have too much more time. I'm gonna give
you one more.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
And by the way, it's incredible to think about what
in eighth grade Albert Breer it would be like with
probably a bunch of Good Housekeeping magazines underneath his bed.
Late night, I want to ask you about the Chicago
Bears when you talk about embarrassments, because Jonas was saying
earlier he hates that they've casted a wide net and
they're doing this first round of interviews over zoom. Can
you just elaborate a little bit more on that head

(30:18):
coaching search and the prospects potentially over zoom?

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Jonah, No, you.

Speaker 5 (30:24):
Don't have to do everybody over zoom, do you.

Speaker 9 (30:26):
Yeah, anybody who's employed by a team over the first
two weeks you have to do over jail.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
But like Rabel, why is he coming in over zoom?
Why can't you have him in person? Like why can't.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Why isn't he a consultant too for some teams?

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Like wouldn't that fall into that category?

Speaker 9 (30:42):
Or no, oh no he would, but he can brave
Arable can come in person, So that would be one
that could come in person. Yeah, I mean, here's here's
the thing, guys, I think with that, Like, I don't
mind going through a thorough process. I think for an
organization that is lost, as the theirs have been, I
think it makes sense to talk to a lot of
people because I think you want to see what the

(31:04):
winning organizations are doing and how they've been built. Like
I'm an advocate of that. Like I would say, like
even the Chargers last year, they knew and I think
we all knew from the very beginning that Jim Harbaugh
was at the top of the list and their target
and everything else. They still interviewed fifteen head coaching candidates
and nine general manager candidates and they still arrived at

(31:25):
the same conclusion. But like, over the course of time,
they got a chance to look inside of all these
winning organizations to get an idea of the way that
the most modern, the most advanced organizations were running. And
you know what that's done. And I think the Spanisons
would tell you this right now. That's helped them support
Jim Harbough better. So like I don't mind going through

(31:47):
a full process. I actually think like if you can gather,
you know, information on the way the rest of the
league is doing it. It's going to put you in
a better positions for whoever you put in charge.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
At the end of it.

Speaker 6 (31:58):
Before we let you go, question before before we yeah,
let you get out of here. You know, Jonas and
Q like to ask you all the questions, but I
got I got a question for you.

Speaker 9 (32:08):
Wow, what that's what?

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Coach? What coach?

Speaker 6 (32:13):
I've literally slept waiting patiently for them to finish? Uh
what what coach do you feel has the most pressure
on them to win in this year's playoffs?

Speaker 9 (32:27):
That's a great question. I think there's some pressure on Tomlin.
I there's some pressure on Tomlin to win because they
haven't won a playoff game in almost a decade there,
and so like when is that? When are they going
to turn the corner and get back to being the
Steelers they were in his early years. So I think

(32:47):
he would be somewhere on that list. I think there's
pressure on Sean McDermott to win. Question about it. You know,
they've been knocking on the door for a very long
time in Buffalo. Those would be the two that would
be on top of my list. Nick Sirianni's another one,
another obvious one, right, Like, so I think for with

(33:07):
with Nick and that roster. I'm not saying they need
to win the whole thing, but like I think if
you have a first round exit, I don't think like.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
It would be at Albert Berry interview without the cell
phone going out.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Oh no, he's gone the cell phone out, Sorry.

Speaker 9 (33:29):
Cell phone doing it again. Yeah, I was on a
good run too.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
That's hardy. Oh no, you're good, you're good. Back now
you're back now?

Speaker 9 (33:37):
Oh good, Okay, I'm good, I'm good. So I'm just
so I think Sirianni be the other one where Sirianni
like I don't. I don't think he needs to win
the whole thing, and I don't think he gets fired
if they lost in the first round. But I think
they need a good showing to kind of call the
dogs off going into twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
So to speak.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
All right, so we got twenty seconds Ohio State Texas
at the into that game, do you feel like the
buck guys will have won by more than six points?

Speaker 9 (34:05):
Wow, you're more direct about this than you know.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
There's no half points.

Speaker 9 (34:11):
Yes, I would say I would, I would say yes,
but yeah, yes, there you go. What do you guys
think you think guys, I think we got him.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
I would lay the points with Ohio State. Where you go,
all right?

Speaker 9 (34:27):
Maybe one of you two guys.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Buddy, We're having next week, so I'm not seeing anyone
other than family.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
So Aby, we appreciate it, good luck and we'll talk.

Speaker 9 (34:42):
To you next week. That's fun down there.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
There is Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
At the end.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
Get about X at Albert Breer.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.

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Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
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It's the Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Bowl
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(35:38):
Now what condition we're going to be in, who the
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(36:00):
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Speaker 5 (36:03):
These might smell a little incredible, but they're still good.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
Time to find out what's lap?

Speaker 5 (36:13):
All right?

Speaker 2 (36:14):
The lap?

Speaker 5 (36:14):
What do you got?

Speaker 7 (36:16):
Well, it's breakfast time, and you know what My favorite
breakfast is leftovers and I still got some chicken farm
from last night.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
I took it back, Yeah, I did to it made it.
It made it all the way back to so good
through the bar hopping.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
Did you put it in the fridge? I think so
oh god, I think so I hope.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
So wait so real quick? Did you take the veal
and the chicken? Yeah, that's gonna be so good.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
If you didn put it, it's gonna be sloppy, but
it's gonna be real good.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
Chicken parm might be the best next day after I
tell you it is.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
Need it back up.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
That's great. It's not, it's not. It's not as spicy
as you want to. Gumbo. Come on, all right, Var
says gumbo.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
I feel like last night.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
What they call that two finger gumbo? What they call
that spicy gumbo?

Speaker 10 (37:19):
He checked, Oh man, alright, well, you know I'm in Florida.

Speaker 7 (37:29):
We're in Florida, and so suddenly I'm getting Florida news
on my phone.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Uh, Florida.

Speaker 7 (37:34):
Great White caught on a beach an Amelia Island that's
up north.

Speaker 9 (37:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (37:40):
Probably it's not that big like Great White.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
It's it's probably there's a migration. I believe it goes
on this time of year as they go up to
the East coast.

Speaker 7 (37:50):
Apparently the second Great White cotton as many months, two months.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
And he's a moron who got lost and he got caught.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
But I draw back, he got caught a good What
was it? What was his name him? Was it Jonas?
Was it Brady? Like?

Speaker 6 (38:07):
What what was this? What makes this white great? Like,
I mean there's so many whites, like, what makes this one.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
In particular great one? You know? Is it lead to lap? It?
Was it lead the lap that got caught?

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Like?

Speaker 6 (38:22):
What what makes this white so great? That's what I
want to know anyway?

Speaker 5 (38:28):
Yeah, what's so great about this?

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Are the hard question to see you?

Speaker 5 (38:31):
Certainly? What else you got?

Speaker 2 (38:32):
I was going to talk to u FOS. Was it
a man or was it a woman? I do I
just want to know, you know, I.

Speaker 7 (38:38):
Was going to talk to UFOs. But that's two into
the weeds. I'm just going to try and find myself.

Speaker 5 (38:41):
That's into the weeds. So let's talk UFOs.

Speaker 7 (38:43):
Well, UFOs apparently you know, UFO expert says it's a
fake alien invasion.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Those drones over New Jersey says that's.

Speaker 7 (38:49):
A deep state fake in order that's hiding with the
real deal, which is an invasion coming up soon.

Speaker 6 (38:55):
So you an invasion of drones?

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Like, so dumb, so dumb.

Speaker 6 (39:04):
Where's a bloody I need a bloody ready for football, baby,
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