March 14, 2025 • 40 mins
The guys talk about why Russell Wilson didn't sign with the Browns after meeting with them on Thursday, Mac Jones signing with the 49ers and how he compares to Brock Purdy, Coop's Leftovers, and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Give thisun you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
What the hell?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
All right?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
I don't understand this. This is your intro song.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
No, this is not only not my intro song. Hell, wtf?
Everything about this? This is about this. This is Brady
Quinn's intro song. Turn it up, Turn it up. It's Friday.
It's Brady's intro song. Whoo yeah who not the verses?
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Okay, Okay, here we are who. Sometimes I get a feeling, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
A feeling that I never knew body would choose a
song like this.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I got a feeling.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Yeah, sometimes I get them feeling.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Hey, way to go with the lights, jon his way
turn it in. Yeah, we got the party started right
now with your way to do a way to do it. Cute.
See you did know how to get us pumped out.
You didn't even wait for Monday.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
No, I apparently need to send a specific song in
not too much leeway there.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
So was it?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Uh? Did you go through Lee to get to veto
Ricky went straight to the show?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I did not. I went to straight to Ricky, but
I kind of sent him. I didn't send him the
song specifically, which is probably my mistake. I sent the
title all that of it. It's fine, it's fine.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Was this close enough to the song you were looking for?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
It was a VICI for sure it was a VICI
for sure I did. That's not the version.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
I did.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Think we should still acknowledge the fact that Lee is
not here. He's not here, he's not with us. We
hope he's doing well, but we also feel like he
may be not here for a reason.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Though. Oh no, I'm not touching what.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Oh I'm touching this. I'm like, I'm not going the
direction you're thinking. Okay, good, all right, all right, Jonas,
why do you think Lee is not here today?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Do we have some conspiracy music?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Please?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Unsolved mysteries? Robert Stack?
Speaker 6 (02:36):
Oh no, all right, so.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
There's any music come comes so much faster when Lee's
not here.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
You know what, Hey, you know it's amazing.
Speaker 7 (02:49):
Loveran has been focused. She's been dowed in today. I've
been checking her out. She's been dowed in on.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
What's going on. Back there happens to be a perfect place.
Speaker 8 (03:00):
The unsolved mystery button is on my main board sometimes
I gotta go look it up.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
You know we played sound for sorry Distracted. We know
that we play sound from DeMarcus Lawrence last hour. If
Lee was here, would have been Trevor Lawrence. So there
is there just seemed to be and easier to get stuffed.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Up, grab the microphone. It was like, I know my
time is coming up.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
I have to say something because the show is running
so smoothly today.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I'm sure.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
All right.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
So there's been an elusive no, you're not you now,
but you have out of it. There's been an elusive
guest that we've been trying to get here all right.
It's been a a little bit of a chase, and
that guess is none other than Jordan Schultz, who was
last seen in Indianapolis nearly beating the piss out of
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being rapidfy the Starbucks. We reached out to him. Jordan
couldn't make it the following morning, but did say get
back to me over the weekend and let's do something
next week. I'd love to come on.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
So what happened?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Rumor has it that he was not reached out to
that weekend, and in fact, the person that was responsible
for reaching out to him that weekend didn't actually remember
he was supposed to reach out to him that weekend
until he was reminded of it after the weekend, and
so the pursuit continued. But that was a week before
this week. Yeah, and then there was a.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Guarantee that Friday, as Q mentioned earlier on that there
would be that sid guess coming on this week, yes,
which would have been to day.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
Yeah, And what happened.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And no Jordan Schultz and subsequently no lead to either tang.
So it does make you wonder.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Did he duck out on the show? So what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Is is is if you didn't want me to to
leave and not be on the show, y'all should just
stop tweeting as much and worry about winning.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Basically then I would then I be here, yeah, and
Jordan Schultz would would be on the show. Yeah, okay,
Lee Marcus Lawrence, we have to Yeah, Lee Marcus Marcus Lawrence.
So well, I've got a surprise for you guys. Oh,
don't say you got Schultz.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Coop, here's Jordan Schultz.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Oh, don't say we got Jordan Schultz on that. That
might be the best pump fake ever. Coo, Coop, that
was the faith so excited. That was the fake stat
from Dan Marito, like the fake Spike and Coop.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I was like, he gotta done that quick.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Again, Coop, that would have been great. Coop, you're gonna
just left the show right after that.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
You're a good actor, buddy, you have.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
That was not that was been not very nice.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
But the way, boy boy, so can we when we
do finally have Jordan Schultan? But did we answer the question,
by the way, why like why is Lee out? Like
isn't that why we gave the music? Like did you
answer the question?
Speaker 9 (06:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
We think he didn't show up because the shoults. Yeah,
oh he didn't want to feel the rap. Maybe that's
why I was like, because I felt like it might
have been something different going on. Man, the bar is
speculated that he's got the beatbox flu.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
I just thought it was Look, it's Friday, clearly, Taco
Tuesday and delivery Wednesdays was really really like setting the
stage for crash out Thursday. He had a rough three
day span. And then on the other front, which I
will not I'm not going to touch.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
What about borrow her Thursdays? Turn music, turn the music up,
move on to the next time. I knew exactly what
I know exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
What does that mean?
Speaker 10 (07:18):
Don't save her? She don't wanna be saved. Don't save her.
She don't want to be saved. Don't save her, she
don't want to be saved. Don't save her.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
Gosh, well did you catch that part?
Speaker 10 (07:32):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Uh did you catch that part? Hope please feeling better?
And uh he will he will be back on the
show coming up on Monday. So hopefully that is that
is not touching. It said not touching that part.
Speaker 9 (07:43):
O somebody touched. Maybe we'll call it touching the Thursday
and that's why I missed Friday.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Uh, well, hey.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
You're wrong, Jonas, You're wrong.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
You're wrong, man, You're wrong. Man? Is uh is Aaron
Rodgers gonna sign with anybody? Because I gotta be honest
with you. I'm getting a little fatigued here with this
whole Rogers just see it, that's happening like borrow Hill, Like,
does nobody somebody borrow him for the next year?
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Somebody borrow.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
As to as to what Russell Wilson's gonna do and
we know what house he's gonna stay in now, I
think I think Brady brought up the point. What point
was that that if Russell Wilson, if the Cleveland Browns
really wanted Russell Wilson yesterday, there would have been a
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deal done. So if that's the case, I saw that.
If that's the case, where does uh why do you
think they didn't want to give him a deal? Like
when I saw that, I was like, hmm, I wonder
why they did let them out to go do another interview.
My first thought was demands, Like is Russ still going
into buildings with demands like this is what I need?
Speaker 7 (09:12):
And I'm not talking office space or anything like that.
I'm just talking maybe as it applies to the support
he would need offensively, like play calling wise or something
like something to that effect. Was he going in there
would a list of demands and that turned Cleveland off,
like yeah, nah, I don't think we're going to do this.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
That's what I asked.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Do you think it was Cleveland that was turned off
fight or maybe it's Russell Wilson. Again, they're in a
tough cap situation, so I don't know. And also Cleveland's
in a position where they might draft a quarterback's good right,
so there's there's there's that sort of potential play here,
So you know, maybe it's it's both parties obviously whatever.
I mean, it could have been in a lack of
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desire on their part, but they brought him in, so ultimately,
if they really he went in. Yeah, and he went in.
But like, I think it makes sense for you to
take visits regardless, Like if the perception.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Is you a visit somewhere where you didn't plan on going.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yes, for this reason, it makes you look more desired
and so it makes it look like there's more of
a market for you. So then when I'm really starting
to negotiate with a team that I really want, then
I can say, well, this is what Cleveland's offering, this
is what so and so is offering. And the truth
of the matter is, as an agent, and this may
sound deceitful, but I don't need to tell one hundred
percent truth on this right. Sure you'll eventually see once
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we sign the deal. And look, you know, if the
Giants want to call up Cleveland and say, hey, what
are you guys offering him like, they're not going to
tell him, right because there's obviously a desire from Cleveland
side to bring him in and have them So you're
going to try to play up the fact that he's
got a bunch of different suitors and that there's multiple
offers out there for him, and that helps you have
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more leverage. I would think as an agent, as a
player in this case, so yes, I would take the visit,
and I think in this case, I mean, look, the
interesting thing about where Russell Wilson's at today because he's
in New York with the Giants, is he was just
there last year and for whatever reason, like they let
him walk out, he didn't end up signing there. He
signs in Pittsburgh. I don't think he did anything to
(11:14):
hurt himself. I mean, do you guys feel like the
year he had last year hurts him as far as
being viewed as a free agent.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
No, I don't think it hurts him. But I don't
think that he's the fact that they didn't want him back,
like definitively, like there's like a lot of grey area
and how things went in Pittsburgh or why he's not
just being re signed back to Pittsburgh. I don't think
it helps. I don't think it helps his negotiation. I
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don't disagree with that. I think that's a fair statement.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I mean, but that's more from like the Pittsburgh side
of things, which again, I think that's what you're probably
trying to search out if you're a team's looking to
sign him, is you know, why did he have a
falling out in Seattle? You know, because supposedly they've made up.
Yet when Las Vegas had a need for a quarterback,
they didn't choose to go with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
And then Seattle had a need for a quarterback and
they didn't go with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, but I think I think that bridge has probably
burned there too, because.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
I was Okay, so you're saying a relationship between Russell
Wilson and the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
No, well yeah Raiders, Yeah, because there was a need
and at the time, think about it, they moved on
from Russell Wilson to Gino Smith, and so at the
time of all that, like you know, this all happened
until Gino ends up going to the Raiders and signing
with them, right the trade yep. So because of that,
I'm just saying, like, yeah, you could say, well, now
Seattle has a need for it, but it's it's a
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new coaching staff. John Schneider's already been there, done that.
I'm not sure they were trying to look back to
go back to that, right of course, I look at
it and say, you know, he's now in a position
where he's been with you know, again, Las Vegas didn't
one with Pete Carroll. Whatever happened in Seattle happened. There's
the Denver situation, right, there's Pittsburgh now, and so I
(13:02):
think that's one of the biggest things you're trying to
figure out, because I think you have a pretty good
idea of what Russell Wilson is as a player. So
now it's figuring out in what it could be a
pivotal year for both the New York Giants, Pittsburgh, whatever
other I mean, all the teams we're talking about. You
could make the case it's a pivotal year for those
coaching staffs and maybe front office executives. Right, Like, if
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they don't sign a guy and win, they're probably going
to be out. We talked about that early with the
Inapolis Colts. So that's what's on the line is job
security for these guys. And they've got to figure out,
like in a one year time, can they bring somebody
and who can help them win enough games to lay
a foundation and provide them at least a little bit
of hope for the future.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I mean, there's a real chance that the Steelers are
going to be asked out of this whole thing, that
Rogers are gonna end up else where. They're not gonna
want Russell Wilson back, and they go into this next
year with Mason Rudolph as their starter, like, it's.
Speaker 7 (14:02):
Not going to happen. Okay, that that part of it's
not Mason Rudolph is not going to be the starter
for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Man, that's not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Could you imagine that though? And by the way, even
if he is, let's say they miss out and Rodgers
they miss out on Russell Wilson. Obviously that if they
don't have a desire for Wilson. I would assume they'd
go for someone in the draft. That's what I would assume.
They would make a play in the first round and
try to trade up, find a way of taking one,
or you know, maybe a guy drops them, whether it's
it's you know, Jackson Dart or shador if if you know,
(14:33):
some of the reports are trade which I don't think
they are. I think one of the hang ups too
for some of these veterans, whether it's Aaron Rodgers or
Russell Wilson, when you keep when we talk about like, hey,
why are they're waiting so long? What have all these
teams told them? Like Cleveland, for example, Hey, we're gonna
sign you, but we're also gonna bring in we're gonna
draft someone like we're gonna take three swings of this.
We we just traded for Kenny Pickett. We're gonna sign
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you as a veteran too, and then we're gonna draft
a guy like could you imagine that's sin? We're like,
that's how you're at Atlanta? Did it last year? Maybe
that's more of the norm, or at least moving forward,
that teams are so desperate to find whoever that guy's
going to be for them that they're willing to exhaust
too three roster spots in an offseason just to figure
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it out.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
If you find it, you found a way to move forward,
like I would exhaust my picks doing that if that
were what was truly important. I think that's what's truly
important to these teams these days. And I don't think
the player. Listen, a player doesn't want to have another
player there that threatens their very job security. But that
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is a safety safety net, or it is your possible replacement,
or they are the possible solution to the team's problem.
If you're not that solution, you shouldn't be upset or
offended when you lose your spot, especially if you're older.
Like if I'm Aaron Rodgers and I'm going into a
situation like that, I'm like, so what, I just want
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to go to the team that gives me an opportunity
to win right now, right away. If I'm looking at
the teams that are out there that I can win
right now, right away.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
I'm not looking at the New York Giants. I'm sorry,
I'm not.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
I'm looking at Minnesota first, if that's available to me,
and I'm looking at Pittsburgh's second and I'm measuring and
I'm weighing out. I see how aggressive Pittsburgh has been
in adding weapons and adding players to their team to
become a better team on both sides of the ball.
It seems like they're taking an all in type of
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approach to what they're doing. I would like to be
a part of that. Okay, you got rid of you,
didn't get rid of you. Let Sam Darnold go, he
goes into the market, he gets picked up somewhere else.
We don't know what JJ McCarthy's going to be. Minnesota's
in the NFC North. I'm familiar with the North. I
can go into a division that I'm familiar with and
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have success with the type of talent that they have
because this is probably personnel wise, as I mentioned before,
a better team than what Pittsburgh is.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Which one do I want to do? Which one do
I want to do?
Speaker 6 (17:11):
To me?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
That shouldn't take too long, That shouldn't take too long.
The variables are the variables. You know what you know?
Speaker 7 (17:17):
Nobody else is going to pop up that's going to
be more attractive, not in my estimation.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Can I give you one thing where like what I
think Aaron Rodgers and may complicate things because we talked
about the angle of well, he doesn't want to follow
directly in bred Forest footsteps, which, by the way, is
that the most ridiculous thing ever? Yes, Like you have
a first ballot Hall of Famer who decides to go
to the Jets when he prolongs his career and then
goes to the Vikings. And then the guy who got drafted,
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you know, sat for a few years, then goes in
and replaces him. Then has a guy get drafted in
the first round sits for a few years, who he
ends up moving on from, goes to the Jets and
potentially the Vikings. Like it's just it's the weirdest thing.
But to go back to the initial point of could
that deter Aaron Rodgers from falling directly into Brett Farbes' footsteps?
(18:05):
I actually think, you know, Brett might be saying to
him about the Vikings, like, hey, it's a great organization.
I enjoyed my time there. You know, that's a place
that is good ownership. Like he he probably has a
better sense and more insight for Aaron about some of that,
and it might not be so much about following his footsteps.
It might just be about how Aaron wants to finish
the final chapter of his legacy. And one of the
(18:27):
things that I think that different differentiates Aaron from Brett
was it felt like Brett was the type that wanted
to play Green Bay twice a year, Like he wanted
to be on a team that's going to be able
to come back and face the Packers, right Like he
wanted that. Yeah, maybe Aaron Rodgers doesn't want that. You know,
maybe he's looking at it saying like, I don't want
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to go to a team that was our division rival,
and that be part of my legacy, how my story ends.
Because if we're looking at it on paper, to your point,
like Minnesota is the best situation to go into as
a quarterback, and you'd think it's a no brainer, but
there might be that element of like, I'm gonna be
remembered as a Green Bay Packers quarterback as a Hall
of Famer, Like that's how he's that's probably how he's
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gonna go in the Hall of Fame as right, it's
not gonna be as a New York Jet obviously, it's
not gonna be as whatever the next team is. And
so That's where I look at it and say, I
wonder how much that factors into his decision if Minnesota
is an option, if it truly is, because he doesn't
want that to be part of whatever his legacy is
gonna be when it's all said and done.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
How much did it impact Brett Farr's relationship and his
standing in the Green Bay fan.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Bay didn't he didn't come back for a little while.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
Remember that, Like, I mean, I guess what I'm asking
what would he have been more beloved with the fanfare
of him been more had he not gone to the Vikings?
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Oh yeah, like it's pronounced. It's noticeable.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
He's more than Rogers is by Packers fans.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
He is today.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, he asked Lisa Packers fan, Well, we can't ask.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
Well obviously, I mean you looked in there like we
could ask.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
But no, Lisa Packers fan, He'll tell you like they
loved FARV Rogers.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
You know, Can I give you a timeline?
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
It took him five years after he last played, So
his last season was twenty ten in Minnesota. It was
technically eight years, you know after he had left the
Green Bay Packers, but he was still playing, right It
was with the Jets. He's with the Vikings, so clearly
you're not going to honor him. But it was July eighteenth,
twenty fifteen, was his return when they inducted him into
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the you know, the Hall of Fame, the number four
jersey they're at lambeau Field. So it took him five
years after playing to rekindle that relationship and come back.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
I just wonder does Aaron Rodgers look at how things
played out for or Brett Farvv as far as with
the fan base. You're not going to do as you
guys mentioned something significant enough in Minnesota where it offsets
what you represent it to Green Bay. Even if you
(21:16):
want a Super Bowl, even if you got a League MVP,
it's not going to offset what you represent it to
Green Bay. Is it worth it to possibly kind of
take away some of the luster or you know, create
that type of division with the fan base that disconnect
(21:37):
with the fan base. I mean, but if if Brett
Faarv fared well, then maybe Aaron Rodgers fair as well.
But I just wonder if that's going into this thought processes.
It's hard to actually think that you'd have such a
brilliant career and a divisional potential team that you land
on that's a divisional rival to where you built your
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your reputation and your brilliant career.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Aaron Jones did it.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
He's not quarterback.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, he still did it though not quarterback joined forces,
not quarterback.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
And Josh Jacobs, I hate to say it as much
as I'm an Aaron Jones fan and love his game,
Josh Jacobs did an excellent job of erasing that that
loss in year one.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
Yeah, so I mean.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
That's just you know, by the way, another name I
was thinking about that I wonder'd still be a movement out.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
There is Derek Carr.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Oh, Derek, Like I wonder, I wonder if, depending on
what happens in the draft, if people start to revisit that.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, but that's one where like if you move on
from him, where you're.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Going, well, I don't know, based on based on the
fan affair for the Saints when we were out there
at the super Bowl, I don't know, probably uh probably nowhere.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
How would we know. I mean, we were up there
so early. It's not like hey was around. It's tested
you have from the Super Bowl in our experience. The
only he saw some guy riding that like people mover
around the radio ro was flying.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
The only Saints fans I saw were, you know, kids
that were selling candy like that's it. I saw that,
and then you know they had like boxes of candy
with like a Saints hat on. But I didn't have
any care.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
And the big home he was waiting right around the corner.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I don't know what. Okay that happen.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
He's got cash, He's got a lot of cash.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
He did.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
The white guy who's dressed like a vampire has a
lot of cash.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
The other one has a chain underneath his shirt.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I see tens and fives.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Coming up to about ten steps.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
There's one who looks drunk. There's one that looks drunk.
Just go ahead and pick pocket him.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Please, Okay, y'all see that do face plant?
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Look at the bruises on his face.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
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What do you mean?
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again fifteen minutes from now from the ti Raq dot
Com Studios. Congratulations to Kyle Shanahan, all these years later,
finally gets his guy Mac Jones. You know, it only
took a few years. Took a couple of detours for
mac Jones, but he did sign a couple of days ago,
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a two year deal with the forty nine ers. Obviously
there's still there still chain.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Can I pose this question, and I'm not trying to
throw like a grenade in a room here, but how
much of a difference is there between brock Perty and
mac Jones?
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Ooh, ooh, not much?
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Ooh.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
It's a hard one because Purdy has has had more success.
But if I'm looking at it at face value, yeah,
if I had mac Jones in and in brock Party situation,
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he most likely does much better. He accomplishes, maybe more
than what brock Party does. I think as a quarterback,
mac Jones is a better quarterback, is what I'll say.
But is he a better pro quarterback?
Speaker 6 (26:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I'm not going to go that far, but I will
acknowledge that in mac Jones' like only real year of
stability at any shot, they were a ten and seven
football team. He went to the Pro Bowl. I believe
they made the playoffs that year unless I'm mistaken. But
ever since then, I mean, think about it, and it's
nothing against Matt Patricia's now the defensive coordinator at Ohio State,
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but they had Matt Patricia calling plays like it was
just it was a disaster. Like the the it's so
interesting to me, like the end of the Bill Belichick
era in New England kind of came a little bit
of a circus where you've got a guy who's never
called offensive plays before, just because he's a smart guy
and he's been great on defense. Now you annoying him
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as being able to call plays on offense. It's kind
of a slap in the face to like everyone out
there who calls plays on offense to a degree, but
like that was what he was dealing with. And then
I guess you can, you know, go back to last
year in Jacksonville, which again running was on the wall
for that staff. By the time he got in for
the seven starts, everyone had a pretty good idea that
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they were all going to get fired. It just it
wasn't a great situation to be in. And so again
I'm not trying to make excuses for him, but to
your point, it's been a completely different set of circumstances
than what brock Perties had the first two years of
his career as compared to last year, which for the
forty nine ers at least, that was more of basically
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what Matt Jones has been dealing with.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Do you buy into the report that came out that
it was John Lynch who wanted Trey Lance and it
was Kyle Shanahan and wanted mac Jones, but John Lynch
ended up winning out obviously, because.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
Did you think they regret letting Trey Lance go now today?
Speaker 6 (28:11):
I don't regret that. No, No, okay.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I mean it's you know, they're not shy from you know,
turning the keys over to somebody else if they think
they're better. I just I wonder if they get into
training camp and they start all of a sudden Mac
Jones starts playing in that system, and if there's still
not a long term deal done with Brock Purty, I
just wonder what the what the possibility could be for
mac Jones to get some pet there, because.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
How much does that play into how much brock Purdy
gets Because that's clearly the point of the conversation. I mean,
for me, clearly, the point is is how much how
much levers do you have having Mac Jones on on
the roster?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Well, I think the other question, yeah, it kind of
gives leverage to the team of like, hey, if you
don't want to like well, we'll go with Mac.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
And by the way, like again, I keep going back
to go back through like every quarterback that's played in
Nikas Shanhan, they've either had a career year or close
to that. That's just him as a play caller offensive system.
He's been that good from his time in Washington to
Houston to Atlanta to I mean Matt Ryan has MVP season,
they go to a Super Bowl, you know, and then
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subsequently after that, like, was Matt Ryan ever close to
the same. No, you know, you look at San Francisco
what they've done with Brock Purty, who was mister irrelevant.
I mean I bring up the point only because at
least when these two guys were drafted, they were viewed
drastically different from one another, and now that we see
them in the NFL, we're like, oh, well, Rock Purty
is way better. I mean they've both been to a
Pro Bowl. Yes, perty's been to a Super Bowl. But
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he's a part of a team that also is extremely
talented around him, probably a top two to three roster
in the NFL. Now, that's it was different last year
for them, give them the injuries, and it's going to be
different now moving forward, depending on the type of deal
that Brock pretty signs. But that's where things can get
really interesting in San Francisco. Is brock pretty if John
Lynch holds, you know, to this can force him to
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play this year again and we'll see what the roster
looks like out around him. But and force him to see,
like if he can actually warrant getting paid what Joe
Burrow and Josh Allen, some of these other greats in
the NFL are getting paid. That's what I'm like most
curious to see this year in the NFL from the
forty nine ers.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
I would not be surprised at the forty nine ers
finished last in the NFC West. I just will not
be surprised now the Seattle Seahawks unless they do something drastic.
Maybe they I mean, they made some decent additions. I'm
not mad at the additions that they've made. I just
don't think that the subtraction of talent lends to thinking
(30:54):
that they could be anything other than third or fourth
in the division. So I don't know why, you know,
the odds makers are looking at the forty nine ers
as this team that's going to be a really, really
good team. I'll say this, if the forty nine ers
have an amazing year, John Lynch and Mike excuse me,
(31:18):
Kyle Shanahan deserve all of the credit and accolades that
go with having a successful season. That would be possible
to a lot of two people's way.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
The Niners have twenty one picks in the next two
NFL drafts, and they've got twelve in the first four rounds,
So they're loading up like they're loading up picks. And
now we get to see if this is a full
blown rebuild or just stay retooling with all the departures
that they got. But it could be could be interesting there,
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and we'll see whether or not brock Perty gets his
deal done At this rate, he'll get his deal done
before Rogers picks which team he's going to sign with.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Sore, Oh, don't say that. Don't say that. I mean
I mean, look, I think all Rogers needs is a
good night of sleep, and that's what you need to
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do that.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
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Speaker 2 (32:32):
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Speaker 3 (32:42):
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Speaker 2 (33:18):
These might smell a little fun, sounds incredible.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
But they're still good.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Time to find out what's left?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
It's Lee's leftovers.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
No, it's Coop's leftovers because Lee ain't here. Coop, what
do we got?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
What does Lee Norman to talk about during this segment?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
He just he'll make up stuff his.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Relationship, drinking, his relationship and drinking.
Speaker 7 (33:42):
Okay, I mean, like, I mean, I don't know that
we do we want to touch on his relationships today?
Speaker 6 (33:48):
Nope?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, I mean I've got.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
A lot of questions.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
I think you guys are drawing some bad conclusions.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
I'm just saying, and uh, you'll talk about movies that
are coming out this weekend. Uh, you know it just
it's kind of whatever lead.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Comes up with.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
All right, Well, I mean I guess, uh, I guess
I'll talk about me then.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
But I'm excited.
Speaker 8 (34:09):
I just booked my longest ever trip in Vegas. It
is a nine night stay. What, yes, might as well
move there. I'm going for the World Series of Poker.
Good luck, Let's go, thank you, Let's yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Now, are you staying at MGM Park, MGM Park or
whatever it is park?
Speaker 8 (34:35):
MGM this time, I'm gonna be staying at MGM Grand. Okay,
hell yeah, because they step up.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Well.
Speaker 8 (34:42):
I mean I like Park MGM, but that's my favorite
hotel on the strip because it's really Yeah, the whole
place is non smoking, and I just I can't stand.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
This Park's place.
Speaker 8 (34:51):
Yeah, it's it used to be the Monte Carlo and
then they rebranded to Park MGM. It's got Italy, it's
really nic it's got Bavett's Steakhouse, one of the best
rest I's ever been to. Uh, And like I said,
no cigarette smoke. So that's that's why I love it.
And it's connected to the Aria, which is my favorite
poker room on the strip. But MGM Grand has a
direct monorail straight to the Paris Slash Horseshoe, which is
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where the World Series of Poker is taking place.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
So I think I told you about that.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
Yeah, I think I think Loraina did tell me about that.
So that's that's why I decided to pick that whole time.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
How many times have you done the World Series of Poker?
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Uh, this will be my fourth.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
And most you've won there's been why.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Uh, like two thousand dollars do you have to qualify
or can anyone enter?
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Anybody can enter? Oh yeah, I thought it was a
little more exclusive than that.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
All right, well no, I mean, like you all start
off with two thousand dollars. No, well, so how does
that work?
Speaker 7 (35:53):
No, I'm just I'm trying to understand because in the
World Series, aren't you playing for like millions?
Speaker 8 (35:57):
Well, so the whole the whole World Series of Poker
is like eighty something different tournaments.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
The one that everybody watches on TV is the main event.
Speaker 8 (36:08):
And what's exclusive about that is you have to have
ten thousand dollars to enter.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Hey, what's your tactic? Like, you know, everyone's good like bluffing? Like,
how do you like hide when you're trying to bluff? Like,
what do you do? Well?
Speaker 6 (36:21):
I mean, I don't want to reveal like my whole.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
I don't think somebody's listen to listen to.
Speaker 8 (36:28):
I think you're saying I'm a I'm a pretty tight player,
and I kind of make that my reputation at the table.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
And then so when I go, well, how do you
do that? Like what do you just tell people? Like, Hey, guys,
I'm a pretty tight player. Just want you to know,
you know, no, because if off fold. You know more
often when you fold, do you show people your cards
sometimes just to like let them know and give them
a little bit of a hint what's happening.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (36:53):
Sometimes, but when I like, you know, when I get
to show down a lot, I'll I'll have it. Or
or if I'm betting somebody out of a pot and
they fulled before we get to showdown, I'll flip my
cards over to be like, hey, look I actually had it.
I wasn't I wasn't bluffing. And so I like to
get that reputation going, and then I picked my spots
because now my reputation to the table is like, oh,
(37:14):
when this guy bets, he's got something, lure them in exactly, I.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Can trust you a little bit, right, And then now, yeah,
then you do stick it in their back. Good for you.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah's you know, that's one of the strategies.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
And so you what two thousand dollars? So now what
place did you finish in that tournament for two thousand
dollars out of how many people? Uh?
Speaker 8 (37:32):
That one was actually last year. It was the tag
team event. So I actually entered with my wife and
we both played.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
So that one, it's.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
Wait, wait, wait, wait, what's it called.
Speaker 8 (37:47):
It's called the tag team event, So you can you
both played the same stack, and at any point your
teammate can come in and take over playing. So it's
kind of cool because when you get a bad beat
and you get all like tilted, you're all frustrated and
start making bad moves. If instead of that happening, you
can be like, all right, tag me out, I'm gonna
(38:10):
go cool off in the you know, the restaurant or
the bar or whatever for a little yes, and then
come back a little relaxed.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Wouldn't that like give away the strategy? Like wouldn't that
let everyone know you had a bad beat? Possibly?
Speaker 8 (38:24):
But then you've got another player coming in who who's
got a totally different, you know, style, and.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Is also part of the challenge, like having to stay
awake and locked in for that.
Speaker 8 (38:36):
Oh yeah, that's so. I say that's of the biggest
things in poker is is endurance.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Are people like you know, walking around with like a
vial of hooker suggar and like pulling it out of
their coat pocket.
Speaker 11 (38:48):
I think there's a lot of that probably okay, all right,
but I mean like the best of that, you know,
I just assume.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
But like the best of the best poker players, they
you know.
Speaker 8 (39:04):
They treat their body right and you know they're getting
the right amount of sleep.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
It's nobody's drinking, like, nobody's having a cocktail while they play.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Some people are, but the but the serious ones don't.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
And so when's this happening again?
Speaker 6 (39:20):
Well, the whole world series is from like, uh.
Speaker 8 (39:23):
Like middle of June or the beginning of June to
the beginning of July. But I'll be there for like
a little over a week at the end of June.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
And so that'll be Lee having a takeover for you
those days most likely.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
Yeah, probably double duty.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yeah, perhaps, all right, perhaps you know he makes it back.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Either Lee or Bree.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
What a Bree?
Speaker 3 (39:47):
What's right?
Speaker 6 (39:48):
But wish me luck. Perhaps i'll come luck that winter.
Speaker 8 (39:52):
And if I do come back and brace the winter
by I might not come back at all.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
The way to go out, you're lying, Coopie did great today.
We appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
Oh, thank you for around, all right, buddy, appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
I love doing it, all right, good man?
Speaker 6 (40:07):
All right, h
Hey, thanks for listening to The Two Pros and a
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Give thisun you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
What the hell?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
All right?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
I don't understand this. This is your intro song.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
No, this is not only not my intro song. Hell, wtf?
Everything about this? This is about this. This is Brady
Quinn's intro song. Turn it up, Turn it up. It's Friday.
It's Brady's intro song. Whoo yeah who not the verses?
Speaker 5 (00:58):
Okay, Okay, here we are who. Sometimes I get a feeling, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
A feeling that I never knew body would choose a
song like this.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I got a feeling.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Yeah, sometimes I get them feeling.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Hey, way to go with the lights, jon his way
turn it in. Yeah, we got the party started right
now with your way to do a way to do it. Cute.
See you did know how to get us pumped out.
You didn't even wait for Monday.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
No, I apparently need to send a specific song in
not too much leeway there.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
So was it?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Uh? Did you go through Lee to get to veto
Ricky went straight to the show?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I did not. I went to straight to Ricky, but
I kind of sent him. I didn't send him the
song specifically, which is probably my mistake. I sent the
title all that of it. It's fine, it's fine.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Was this close enough to the song you were looking for?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
It was a VICI for sure it was a VICI
for sure I did. That's not the version.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
I did.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Think we should still acknowledge the fact that Lee is
not here. He's not here, he's not with us. We
hope he's doing well, but we also feel like he
may be not here for a reason.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Though. Oh no, I'm not touching what.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Oh I'm touching this. I'm like, I'm not going the
direction you're thinking. Okay, good, all right, all right, Jonas,
why do you think Lee is not here today?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Do we have some conspiracy music?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Please?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Unsolved mysteries? Robert Stack?
Speaker 6 (02:36):
Oh no, all right, so.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
There's any music come comes so much faster when Lee's
not here.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
You know what, Hey, you know it's amazing.
Speaker 7 (02:49):
Loveran has been focused. She's been dowed in today. I've
been checking her out. She's been dowed in on.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
What's going on. Back there happens to be a perfect place.
Speaker 8 (03:00):
The unsolved mystery button is on my main board sometimes
I gotta go look it up.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
You know we played sound for sorry Distracted. We know
that we play sound from DeMarcus Lawrence last hour. If
Lee was here, would have been Trevor Lawrence. So there
is there just seemed to be and easier to get stuffed.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Up, grab the microphone. It was like, I know my
time is coming up.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
I have to say something because the show is running
so smoothly today.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I'm sure.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
All right.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
So there's been an elusive no, you're not you now,
but you have out of it. There's been an elusive
guest that we've been trying to get here all right.
It's been a a little bit of a chase, and
that guess is none other than Jordan Schultz, who was
last seen in Indianapolis nearly beating the piss out of
(03:53):
being rapidfy the Starbucks. We reached out to him. Jordan
couldn't make it the following morning, but did say get
back to me over the weekend and let's do something
next week. I'd love to come on.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
So what happened?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Rumor has it that he was not reached out to
that weekend, and in fact, the person that was responsible
for reaching out to him that weekend didn't actually remember
he was supposed to reach out to him that weekend
until he was reminded of it after the weekend, and
so the pursuit continued. But that was a week before
this week. Yeah, and then there was a.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
Guarantee that Friday, as Q mentioned earlier on that there
would be that sid guess coming on this week, yes,
which would have been to day.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
Yeah, And what happened.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And no Jordan Schultz and subsequently no lead to either tang.
So it does make you wonder.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Did he duck out on the show? So what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Is is is if you didn't want me to to
leave and not be on the show, y'all should just
stop tweeting as much and worry about winning.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Basically then I would then I be here, yeah, and
Jordan Schultz would would be on the show. Yeah, okay,
Lee Marcus Lawrence, we have to Yeah, Lee Marcus Marcus Lawrence.
So well, I've got a surprise for you guys. Oh,
don't say you got Schultz.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Coop, here's Jordan Schultz.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Oh, don't say we got Jordan Schultz on that. That
might be the best pump fake ever. Coo, Coop, that
was the faith so excited. That was the fake stat
from Dan Marito, like the fake Spike and Coop.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
I was like, he gotta done that quick.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Again, Coop, that would have been great. Coop, you're gonna
just left the show right after that.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
You're a good actor, buddy, you have.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
That was not that was been not very nice.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
But the way, boy boy, so can we when we
do finally have Jordan Schultan? But did we answer the question,
by the way, why like why is Lee out? Like
isn't that why we gave the music? Like did you
answer the question?
Speaker 9 (06:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
We think he didn't show up because the shoults. Yeah,
oh he didn't want to feel the rap. Maybe that's
why I was like, because I felt like it might
have been something different going on. Man, the bar is
speculated that he's got the beatbox flu.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
I just thought it was Look, it's Friday, clearly, Taco
Tuesday and delivery Wednesdays was really really like setting the
stage for crash out Thursday. He had a rough three
day span. And then on the other front, which I
will not I'm not going to touch.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
What about borrow her Thursdays? Turn music, turn the music up,
move on to the next time. I knew exactly what
I know exactly.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
What does that mean?
Speaker 10 (07:18):
Don't save her? She don't wanna be saved. Don't save her.
She don't want to be saved. Don't save her, she
don't want to be saved. Don't save her.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
Gosh, well did you catch that part?
Speaker 10 (07:32):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Uh did you catch that part? Hope please feeling better?
And uh he will he will be back on the
show coming up on Monday. So hopefully that is that
is not touching. It said not touching that part.
Speaker 9 (07:43):
O somebody touched. Maybe we'll call it touching the Thursday
and that's why I missed Friday.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Uh, well, hey.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
You're wrong, Jonas, You're wrong.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
You're wrong, man, You're wrong. Man? Is uh is Aaron
Rodgers gonna sign with anybody? Because I gotta be honest
with you. I'm getting a little fatigued here with this
whole Rogers just see it, that's happening like borrow Hill, Like,
does nobody somebody borrow him for the next year?
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Somebody borrow.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
As to as to what Russell Wilson's gonna do and
we know what house he's gonna stay in now, I
think I think Brady brought up the point. What point
was that that if Russell Wilson, if the Cleveland Browns
really wanted Russell Wilson yesterday, there would have been a
(08:47):
deal done. So if that's the case, I saw that.
If that's the case, where does uh why do you
think they didn't want to give him a deal? Like
when I saw that, I was like, hmm, I wonder
why they did let them out to go do another interview.
My first thought was demands, Like is Russ still going
into buildings with demands like this is what I need?
Speaker 7 (09:12):
And I'm not talking office space or anything like that.
I'm just talking maybe as it applies to the support
he would need offensively, like play calling wise or something
like something to that effect. Was he going in there
would a list of demands and that turned Cleveland off,
like yeah, nah, I don't think we're going to do this.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
That's what I asked.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Do you think it was Cleveland that was turned off
fight or maybe it's Russell Wilson. Again, they're in a
tough cap situation, so I don't know. And also Cleveland's
in a position where they might draft a quarterback's good right,
so there's there's there's that sort of potential play here,
So you know, maybe it's it's both parties obviously whatever.
I mean, it could have been in a lack of
(09:54):
desire on their part, but they brought him in, so ultimately,
if they really he went in. Yeah, and he went in.
But like, I think it makes sense for you to
take visits regardless, Like if the perception.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Is you a visit somewhere where you didn't plan on going.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yes, for this reason, it makes you look more desired
and so it makes it look like there's more of
a market for you. So then when I'm really starting
to negotiate with a team that I really want, then
I can say, well, this is what Cleveland's offering, this
is what so and so is offering. And the truth
of the matter is, as an agent, and this may
sound deceitful, but I don't need to tell one hundred
percent truth on this right. Sure you'll eventually see once
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we sign the deal. And look, you know, if the
Giants want to call up Cleveland and say, hey, what
are you guys offering him like, they're not going to
tell him, right because there's obviously a desire from Cleveland
side to bring him in and have them So you're
going to try to play up the fact that he's
got a bunch of different suitors and that there's multiple
offers out there for him, and that helps you have
(10:53):
more leverage. I would think as an agent, as a
player in this case, so yes, I would take the visit,
and I think in this case, I mean, look, the
interesting thing about where Russell Wilson's at today because he's
in New York with the Giants, is he was just
there last year and for whatever reason, like they let
him walk out, he didn't end up signing there. He
signs in Pittsburgh. I don't think he did anything to
(11:14):
hurt himself. I mean, do you guys feel like the
year he had last year hurts him as far as
being viewed as a free agent.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
No, I don't think it hurts him. But I don't
think that he's the fact that they didn't want him back,
like definitively, like there's like a lot of grey area
and how things went in Pittsburgh or why he's not
just being re signed back to Pittsburgh. I don't think
it helps. I don't think it helps his negotiation. I
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don't disagree with that. I think that's a fair statement.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I mean, but that's more from like the Pittsburgh side
of things, which again, I think that's what you're probably
trying to search out if you're a team's looking to
sign him, is you know, why did he have a
falling out in Seattle? You know, because supposedly they've made up.
Yet when Las Vegas had a need for a quarterback,
they didn't choose to go with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
And then Seattle had a need for a quarterback and
they didn't go with Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, but I think I think that bridge has probably
burned there too, because.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
I was Okay, so you're saying a relationship between Russell
Wilson and the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
No, well yeah Raiders, Yeah, because there was a need
and at the time, think about it, they moved on
from Russell Wilson to Gino Smith, and so at the
time of all that, like you know, this all happened
until Gino ends up going to the Raiders and signing
with them, right the trade yep. So because of that,
I'm just saying, like, yeah, you could say, well, now
Seattle has a need for it, but it's it's a
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new coaching staff. John Schneider's already been there, done that.
I'm not sure they were trying to look back to
go back to that, right of course, I look at
it and say, you know, he's now in a position
where he's been with you know, again, Las Vegas didn't
one with Pete Carroll. Whatever happened in Seattle happened. There's
the Denver situation, right, there's Pittsburgh now, and so I
(13:02):
think that's one of the biggest things you're trying to
figure out, because I think you have a pretty good
idea of what Russell Wilson is as a player. So
now it's figuring out in what it could be a
pivotal year for both the New York Giants, Pittsburgh, whatever
other I mean, all the teams we're talking about. You
could make the case it's a pivotal year for those
coaching staffs and maybe front office executives. Right, Like, if
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they don't sign a guy and win, they're probably going
to be out. We talked about that early with the
Inapolis Colts. So that's what's on the line is job
security for these guys. And they've got to figure out,
like in a one year time, can they bring somebody
and who can help them win enough games to lay
a foundation and provide them at least a little bit
of hope for the future.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I mean, there's a real chance that the Steelers are
going to be asked out of this whole thing, that
Rogers are gonna end up else where. They're not gonna
want Russell Wilson back, and they go into this next
year with Mason Rudolph as their starter, like, it's.
Speaker 7 (14:02):
Not going to happen. Okay, that that part of it's
not Mason Rudolph is not going to be the starter
for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Man, that's not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Could you imagine that though? And by the way, even
if he is, let's say they miss out and Rodgers
they miss out on Russell Wilson. Obviously that if they
don't have a desire for Wilson. I would assume they'd
go for someone in the draft. That's what I would assume.
They would make a play in the first round and
try to trade up, find a way of taking one,
or you know, maybe a guy drops them, whether it's
it's you know, Jackson Dart or shador if if you know,
(14:33):
some of the reports are trade which I don't think
they are. I think one of the hang ups too
for some of these veterans, whether it's Aaron Rodgers or
Russell Wilson, when you keep when we talk about like, hey,
why are they're waiting so long? What have all these
teams told them? Like Cleveland, for example, Hey, we're gonna
sign you, but we're also gonna bring in we're gonna
draft someone like we're gonna take three swings of this.
We we just traded for Kenny Pickett. We're gonna sign
(14:55):
you as a veteran too, and then we're gonna draft
a guy like could you imagine that's sin? We're like,
that's how you're at Atlanta? Did it last year? Maybe
that's more of the norm, or at least moving forward,
that teams are so desperate to find whoever that guy's
going to be for them that they're willing to exhaust
too three roster spots in an offseason just to figure
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it out.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
If you find it, you found a way to move forward,
like I would exhaust my picks doing that if that
were what was truly important. I think that's what's truly
important to these teams these days. And I don't think
the player. Listen, a player doesn't want to have another
player there that threatens their very job security. But that
(15:37):
is a safety safety net, or it is your possible replacement,
or they are the possible solution to the team's problem.
If you're not that solution, you shouldn't be upset or
offended when you lose your spot, especially if you're older.
Like if I'm Aaron Rodgers and I'm going into a
situation like that, I'm like, so what, I just want
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to go to the team that gives me an opportunity
to win right now, right away. If I'm looking at
the teams that are out there that I can win
right now, right away.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
I'm not looking at the New York Giants. I'm sorry,
I'm not.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
I'm looking at Minnesota first, if that's available to me,
and I'm looking at Pittsburgh's second and I'm measuring and
I'm weighing out. I see how aggressive Pittsburgh has been
in adding weapons and adding players to their team to
become a better team on both sides of the ball.
It seems like they're taking an all in type of
(16:35):
approach to what they're doing. I would like to be
a part of that. Okay, you got rid of you,
didn't get rid of you. Let Sam Darnold go, he
goes into the market, he gets picked up somewhere else.
We don't know what JJ McCarthy's going to be. Minnesota's
in the NFC North. I'm familiar with the North. I
can go into a division that I'm familiar with and
(16:58):
have success with the type of talent that they have
because this is probably personnel wise, as I mentioned before,
a better team than what Pittsburgh is.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Which one do I want to do? Which one do
I want to do?
Speaker 6 (17:11):
To me?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
That shouldn't take too long, That shouldn't take too long.
The variables are the variables. You know what you know?
Speaker 7 (17:17):
Nobody else is going to pop up that's going to
be more attractive, not in my estimation.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Can I give you one thing where like what I
think Aaron Rodgers and may complicate things because we talked
about the angle of well, he doesn't want to follow
directly in bred Forest footsteps, which, by the way, is
that the most ridiculous thing ever? Yes, Like you have
a first ballot Hall of Famer who decides to go
to the Jets when he prolongs his career and then
goes to the Vikings. And then the guy who got drafted,
(17:44):
you know, sat for a few years, then goes in
and replaces him. Then has a guy get drafted in
the first round sits for a few years, who he
ends up moving on from, goes to the Jets and
potentially the Vikings. Like it's just it's the weirdest thing.
But to go back to the initial point of could
that deter Aaron Rodgers from falling directly into Brett Farbes' footsteps?
(18:05):
I actually think, you know, Brett might be saying to
him about the Vikings, like, hey, it's a great organization.
I enjoyed my time there. You know, that's a place
that is good ownership. Like he he probably has a
better sense and more insight for Aaron about some of that,
and it might not be so much about following his footsteps.
It might just be about how Aaron wants to finish
the final chapter of his legacy. And one of the
(18:27):
things that I think that different differentiates Aaron from Brett
was it felt like Brett was the type that wanted
to play Green Bay twice a year, Like he wanted
to be on a team that's going to be able
to come back and face the Packers, right Like he
wanted that. Yeah, maybe Aaron Rodgers doesn't want that. You know,
maybe he's looking at it saying like, I don't want
(18:48):
to go to a team that was our division rival,
and that be part of my legacy, how my story ends.
Because if we're looking at it on paper, to your point,
like Minnesota is the best situation to go into as
a quarterback, and you'd think it's a no brainer, but
there might be that element of like, I'm gonna be
remembered as a Green Bay Packers quarterback as a Hall
of Famer, Like that's how he's that's probably how he's
(19:10):
gonna go in the Hall of Fame as right, it's
not gonna be as a New York Jet obviously, it's
not gonna be as whatever the next team is. And
so That's where I look at it and say, I
wonder how much that factors into his decision if Minnesota
is an option, if it truly is, because he doesn't
want that to be part of whatever his legacy is
gonna be when it's all said and done.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
How much did it impact Brett Farr's relationship and his
standing in the Green Bay fan.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Bay didn't he didn't come back for a little while.
Speaker 7 (19:42):
Remember that, Like, I mean, I guess what I'm asking
what would he have been more beloved with the fanfare
of him been more had he not gone to the Vikings?
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Oh yeah, like it's pronounced. It's noticeable.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
He's more than Rogers is by Packers fans.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
He is today.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, he asked Lisa Packers fan, Well, we can't ask.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
Well obviously, I mean you looked in there like we
could ask.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
But no, Lisa Packers fan, He'll tell you like they
loved FARV Rogers.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
You know, Can I give you a timeline?
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
It took him five years after he last played, So
his last season was twenty ten in Minnesota. It was
technically eight years, you know after he had left the
Green Bay Packers, but he was still playing, right It
was with the Jets. He's with the Vikings, so clearly
you're not going to honor him. But it was July eighteenth,
twenty fifteen, was his return when they inducted him into
(20:45):
the you know, the Hall of Fame, the number four
jersey they're at lambeau Field. So it took him five
years after playing to rekindle that relationship and come back.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
I just wonder does Aaron Rodgers look at how things
played out for or Brett Farvv as far as with
the fan base. You're not going to do as you
guys mentioned something significant enough in Minnesota where it offsets
what you represent it to Green Bay. Even if you
(21:16):
want a Super Bowl, even if you got a League MVP,
it's not going to offset what you represent it to
Green Bay. Is it worth it to possibly kind of
take away some of the luster or you know, create
that type of division with the fan base that disconnect
(21:37):
with the fan base. I mean, but if if Brett
Faarv fared well, then maybe Aaron Rodgers fair as well.
But I just wonder if that's going into this thought processes.
It's hard to actually think that you'd have such a
brilliant career and a divisional potential team that you land
on that's a divisional rival to where you built your
(21:59):
your reputation and your brilliant career.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Aaron Jones did it.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
He's not quarterback.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, he still did it though not quarterback joined forces,
not quarterback.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
And Josh Jacobs, I hate to say it as much
as I'm an Aaron Jones fan and love his game,
Josh Jacobs did an excellent job of erasing that that
loss in year one.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
Yeah, so I mean.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
That's just you know, by the way, another name I
was thinking about that I wonder'd still be a movement out.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
There is Derek Carr.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Oh, Derek, Like I wonder, I wonder if, depending on
what happens in the draft, if people start to revisit that.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, but that's one where like if you move on
from him, where you're.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Going, well, I don't know, based on based on the
fan affair for the Saints when we were out there
at the super Bowl, I don't know, probably uh probably nowhere.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
How would we know. I mean, we were up there
so early. It's not like hey was around. It's tested
you have from the Super Bowl in our experience. The
only he saw some guy riding that like people mover
around the radio ro was flying.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
The only Saints fans I saw were, you know, kids
that were selling candy like that's it. I saw that,
and then you know they had like boxes of candy
with like a Saints hat on. But I didn't have
any care.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
And the big home he was waiting right around the corner.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I don't know what. Okay that happen.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
He's got cash, He's got a lot of cash.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
He did.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
The white guy who's dressed like a vampire has a
lot of cash.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
The other one has a chain underneath his shirt.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I see tens and fives.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Coming up to about ten steps.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
There's one who looks drunk. There's one that looks drunk.
Just go ahead and pick pocket him.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Please, Okay, y'all see that do face plant?
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Look at the bruises on his face.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
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again fifteen minutes from now from the ti Raq dot
Com Studios. Congratulations to Kyle Shanahan, all these years later,
finally gets his guy Mac Jones. You know, it only
took a few years. Took a couple of detours for
mac Jones, but he did sign a couple of days ago,
(25:24):
a two year deal with the forty nine ers. Obviously
there's still there still chain.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Can I pose this question, and I'm not trying to
throw like a grenade in a room here, but how
much of a difference is there between brock Perty and
mac Jones?
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Ooh, ooh, not much?
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Ooh.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
It's a hard one because Purdy has has had more success.
But if I'm looking at it at face value, yeah,
if I had mac Jones in and in brock Party situation,
(26:09):
he most likely does much better. He accomplishes, maybe more
than what brock Party does. I think as a quarterback,
mac Jones is a better quarterback, is what I'll say.
But is he a better pro quarterback?
Speaker 6 (26:23):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I'm not going to go that far, but I will
acknowledge that in mac Jones' like only real year of
stability at any shot, they were a ten and seven
football team. He went to the Pro Bowl. I believe
they made the playoffs that year unless I'm mistaken. But
ever since then, I mean, think about it, and it's
nothing against Matt Patricia's now the defensive coordinator at Ohio State,
(26:47):
but they had Matt Patricia calling plays like it was
just it was a disaster. Like the the it's so
interesting to me, like the end of the Bill Belichick
era in New England kind of came a little bit
of a circus where you've got a guy who's never
called offensive plays before, just because he's a smart guy
and he's been great on defense. Now you annoying him
(27:09):
as being able to call plays on offense. It's kind
of a slap in the face to like everyone out
there who calls plays on offense to a degree, but
like that was what he was dealing with. And then
I guess you can, you know, go back to last
year in Jacksonville, which again running was on the wall
for that staff. By the time he got in for
the seven starts, everyone had a pretty good idea that
(27:30):
they were all going to get fired. It just it
wasn't a great situation to be in. And so again
I'm not trying to make excuses for him, but to
your point, it's been a completely different set of circumstances
than what brock Perties had the first two years of
his career as compared to last year, which for the
forty nine ers at least, that was more of basically
(27:50):
what Matt Jones has been dealing with.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
Do you buy into the report that came out that
it was John Lynch who wanted Trey Lance and it
was Kyle Shanahan and wanted mac Jones, but John Lynch
ended up winning out obviously, because.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
Did you think they regret letting Trey Lance go now today?
Speaker 6 (28:11):
I don't regret that. No, No, okay.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
I mean it's you know, they're not shy from you know,
turning the keys over to somebody else if they think
they're better. I just I wonder if they get into
training camp and they start all of a sudden Mac
Jones starts playing in that system, and if there's still
not a long term deal done with Brock Purty, I
just wonder what the what the possibility could be for
mac Jones to get some pet there, because.
Speaker 7 (28:36):
How much does that play into how much brock Purdy
gets Because that's clearly the point of the conversation. I mean,
for me, clearly, the point is is how much how
much levers do you have having Mac Jones on on
the roster?
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Well, I think the other question, yeah, it kind of
gives leverage to the team of like, hey, if you
don't want to like well, we'll go with Mac.
Speaker 6 (29:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
And by the way, like again, I keep going back
to go back through like every quarterback that's played in
Nikas Shanhan, they've either had a career year or close
to that. That's just him as a play caller offensive system.
He's been that good from his time in Washington to
Houston to Atlanta to I mean Matt Ryan has MVP season,
they go to a Super Bowl, you know, and then
(29:24):
subsequently after that, like, was Matt Ryan ever close to
the same. No, you know, you look at San Francisco
what they've done with Brock Purty, who was mister irrelevant.
I mean I bring up the point only because at
least when these two guys were drafted, they were viewed
drastically different from one another, and now that we see
them in the NFL, we're like, oh, well, Rock Purty
is way better. I mean they've both been to a
Pro Bowl. Yes, perty's been to a Super Bowl. But
(29:47):
he's a part of a team that also is extremely
talented around him, probably a top two to three roster
in the NFL. Now, that's it was different last year
for them, give them the injuries, and it's going to be
different now moving forward, depending on the type of deal
that Brock pretty signs. But that's where things can get
really interesting in San Francisco. Is brock pretty if John
Lynch holds, you know, to this can force him to
(30:11):
play this year again and we'll see what the roster
looks like out around him. But and force him to see,
like if he can actually warrant getting paid what Joe
Burrow and Josh Allen, some of these other greats in
the NFL are getting paid. That's what I'm like most
curious to see this year in the NFL from the
forty nine ers.
Speaker 7 (30:30):
I would not be surprised at the forty nine ers
finished last in the NFC West. I just will not
be surprised now the Seattle Seahawks unless they do something drastic.
Maybe they I mean, they made some decent additions. I'm
not mad at the additions that they've made. I just
don't think that the subtraction of talent lends to thinking
(30:54):
that they could be anything other than third or fourth
in the division. So I don't know why, you know,
the odds makers are looking at the forty nine ers
as this team that's going to be a really, really
good team. I'll say this, if the forty nine ers
have an amazing year, John Lynch and Mike excuse me,
(31:18):
Kyle Shanahan deserve all of the credit and accolades that
go with having a successful season. That would be possible
to a lot of two people's way.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
The Niners have twenty one picks in the next two
NFL drafts, and they've got twelve in the first four rounds,
So they're loading up like they're loading up picks. And
now we get to see if this is a full
blown rebuild or just stay retooling with all the departures
that they got. But it could be could be interesting there,
(31:53):
and we'll see whether or not brock Perty gets his
deal done At this rate, he'll get his deal done
before Rogers picks which team he's going to sign with.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Sore, Oh, don't say that. Don't say that. I mean
I mean, look, I think all Rogers needs is a
good night of sleep, and that's what you need to
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(32:20):
do that.
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Speaker 2 (33:18):
These might smell a little fun, sounds incredible.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
But they're still good.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Time to find out what's left?
Speaker 2 (33:26):
It's Lee's leftovers.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
No, it's Coop's leftovers because Lee ain't here. Coop, what
do we got?
Speaker 1 (33:35):
What does Lee Norman to talk about during this segment?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
He just he'll make up stuff his.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Relationship, drinking, his relationship and drinking.
Speaker 7 (33:42):
Okay, I mean, like, I mean, I don't know that
we do we want to touch on his relationships today?
Speaker 6 (33:48):
Nope?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, I mean I've got.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
A lot of questions.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
I think you guys are drawing some bad conclusions.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
I'm just saying, and uh, you'll talk about movies that
are coming out this weekend. Uh, you know it just
it's kind of whatever lead.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Comes up with.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
All right, Well, I mean I guess, uh, I guess
I'll talk about me then.
Speaker 6 (34:07):
But I'm excited.
Speaker 8 (34:09):
I just booked my longest ever trip in Vegas. It
is a nine night stay. What, yes, might as well
move there. I'm going for the World Series of Poker.
Good luck, Let's go, thank you, Let's yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Now, are you staying at MGM Park, MGM Park or
whatever it is park?
Speaker 8 (34:35):
MGM this time, I'm gonna be staying at MGM Grand. Okay,
hell yeah, because they step up.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Well.
Speaker 8 (34:42):
I mean I like Park MGM, but that's my favorite
hotel on the strip because it's really Yeah, the whole
place is non smoking, and I just I can't stand.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
This Park's place.
Speaker 8 (34:51):
Yeah, it's it used to be the Monte Carlo and
then they rebranded to Park MGM. It's got Italy, it's
really nic it's got Bavett's Steakhouse, one of the best
rest I's ever been to. Uh, And like I said,
no cigarette smoke. So that's that's why I love it.
And it's connected to the Aria, which is my favorite
poker room on the strip. But MGM Grand has a
direct monorail straight to the Paris Slash Horseshoe, which is
(35:17):
where the World Series of Poker is taking place.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
So I think I told you about that.
Speaker 8 (35:22):
Yeah, I think I think Loraina did tell me about that.
So that's that's why I decided to pick that whole time.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
How many times have you done the World Series of Poker?
Speaker 6 (35:30):
Uh, this will be my fourth.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
And most you've won there's been why.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Uh, like two thousand dollars do you have to qualify
or can anyone enter?
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Anybody can enter? Oh yeah, I thought it was a
little more exclusive than that.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
All right, well no, I mean, like you all start
off with two thousand dollars. No, well, so how does
that work?
Speaker 7 (35:53):
No, I'm just I'm trying to understand because in the
World Series, aren't you playing for like millions?
Speaker 8 (35:57):
Well, so the whole the whole World Series of Poker
is like eighty something different tournaments.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
The one that everybody watches on TV is the main event.
Speaker 8 (36:08):
And what's exclusive about that is you have to have
ten thousand dollars to enter.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Hey, what's your tactic? Like, you know, everyone's good like bluffing? Like,
how do you like hide when you're trying to bluff? Like,
what do you do? Well?
Speaker 6 (36:21):
I mean, I don't want to reveal like my whole.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
I don't think somebody's listen to listen to.
Speaker 8 (36:28):
I think you're saying I'm a I'm a pretty tight player,
and I kind of make that my reputation at the table.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
And then so when I go, well, how do you
do that? Like what do you just tell people? Like, Hey, guys,
I'm a pretty tight player. Just want you to know,
you know, no, because if off fold. You know more
often when you fold, do you show people your cards
sometimes just to like let them know and give them
a little bit of a hint what's happening.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (36:53):
Sometimes, but when I like, you know, when I get
to show down a lot, I'll I'll have it. Or
or if I'm betting somebody out of a pot and
they fulled before we get to showdown, I'll flip my
cards over to be like, hey, look I actually had it.
I wasn't I wasn't bluffing. And so I like to
get that reputation going, and then I picked my spots
because now my reputation to the table is like, oh,
(37:14):
when this guy bets, he's got something, lure them in exactly, I.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Can trust you a little bit, right, And then now, yeah,
then you do stick it in their back. Good for you.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah's you know, that's one of the strategies.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
And so you what two thousand dollars? So now what
place did you finish in that tournament for two thousand
dollars out of how many people? Uh?
Speaker 8 (37:32):
That one was actually last year. It was the tag
team event. So I actually entered with my wife and
we both played.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
So that one, it's.
Speaker 7 (37:44):
Wait, wait, wait, wait, what's it called.
Speaker 8 (37:47):
It's called the tag team event, So you can you
both played the same stack, and at any point your
teammate can come in and take over playing. So it's
kind of cool because when you get a bad beat
and you get all like tilted, you're all frustrated and
start making bad moves. If instead of that happening, you
can be like, all right, tag me out, I'm gonna
(38:10):
go cool off in the you know, the restaurant or
the bar or whatever for a little yes, and then
come back a little relaxed.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Wouldn't that like give away the strategy? Like wouldn't that
let everyone know you had a bad beat? Possibly?
Speaker 8 (38:24):
But then you've got another player coming in who who's
got a totally different, you know, style, and.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Is also part of the challenge, like having to stay
awake and locked in for that.
Speaker 8 (38:36):
Oh yeah, that's so. I say that's of the biggest
things in poker is is endurance.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Are people like you know, walking around with like a
vial of hooker suggar and like pulling it out of
their coat pocket.
Speaker 11 (38:48):
I think there's a lot of that probably okay, all right,
but I mean like the best of that, you know,
I just assume.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
But like the best of the best poker players, they
you know.
Speaker 8 (39:04):
They treat their body right and you know they're getting
the right amount of sleep.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
It's nobody's drinking, like, nobody's having a cocktail while they play.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Some people are, but the but the serious ones don't.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
And so when's this happening again?
Speaker 6 (39:20):
Well, the whole world series is from like, uh.
Speaker 8 (39:23):
Like middle of June or the beginning of June to
the beginning of July. But I'll be there for like
a little over a week at the end of June.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
And so that'll be Lee having a takeover for you
those days most likely.
Speaker 6 (39:36):
Yeah, probably double duty.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yeah, perhaps, all right, perhaps you know he makes it back.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
Either Lee or Bree.
Speaker 4 (39:45):
What a Bree?
Speaker 3 (39:47):
What's right?
Speaker 6 (39:48):
But wish me luck. Perhaps i'll come luck that winter.
Speaker 8 (39:52):
And if I do come back and brace the winter
by I might not come back at all.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
The way to go out, you're lying, Coopie did great today.
We appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
Oh, thank you for around, all right, buddy, appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
I love doing it, all right, good man?
Speaker 6 (40:07):
All right, h
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