March 18, 2025 • 38 mins
The guys get their brackets ready and debate whether or not Cooper Kupp deserves an apology. NFL Insider Pete Prisco, debates landing spots for Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson. Plus, wrapping up Game 1 of the season on Lee’s Leftovers.
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missed it live, bet Jesus graced us with his presence.
He's got the Cubs plus two and a half who
are currently trailing by two in the seventh there in Tokyo.
So we've got a live sporting event.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
We got the.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
NCAA Tournament coming up later on this week, we got
playing games. People still crying because North Carolina got in
all sorts of fun stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Are we not going to talk about the SEC? What
the thirteen fourteen teams in?
Speaker 6 (01:47):
There's sixty something teams, like there's.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Sixty eight, but there was also what three hundred men's
basketball team? So it's as much as we want to
act like there shouldn't be these conversations and debates, it
does feel like West Virginia got snubbed. And it does
feel like when you've got Texas, you wouldn't see bigger
brands as part of it. The SEC getting that many
teams in, and I understand the SEC was solid. Don't
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get me wrong, you know, I actually I love Florida
in this tournament. I think they're built to potentially when it.
Auburn's been fantastic all season long. I get all that,
but I just I think we end up getting into
this like brand bias with some of these conferences, and
we'll see how the tournament plays out. You know, there's
typically on average eight upsets I think in the first
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round per year that occur. I don't know that we'll
see that many, but I do think that there's enough
of a conversation about how we go about selecting some
of these like mid tier teams that are on the bubble,
like if they're actually deserving of getting in.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
I was actually gonna ask you, is, what do you
how does it feel to know that you're not gonna
win the Bragget Challenge this year? Because I don't know
what that feeling is because I know I'm gonna win.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Who won last year? Again? Do you remember who won
last year?
Speaker 6 (03:00):
So we got to stop living in the past.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Jesus went He definitely didn't. I don't actually think any
of us won last year. I mean, Jonas didn't even
fill out half the bract a couple of years ago.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Who won the show, who went out of the show,
Who had the best showing out of the show? Curious
who did the best? I believe it was far Yeah,
follow up. It probably was.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I think just last actually listen, listen West.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Virginia there there what rank ended up being ranked seventh
in in their conference. Again, if you're not a top
seeded team, it's so many teams. There are so many
teams that make it into this tournament. I just I
think that when you have the opportunity to play in
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a conference where you can punch your ticket by winning games,
but you don't win enough games, I just I don't know.
I don't have a hard feeling Sold Virginia being left out.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
So a team that goes six and twelve in conference
play and nineteen and fifteen on the season, you think
they should get in.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Because that's who's that's who Texas is.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, all right, so where were they? Where were they ranked?
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Right?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
But what they they're in the plan, they're in the
they're one of the one of.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
The four plans first four that have to play to
make actually into the sixty four. I mean, that's what
I'm saying is is you could have you could have
easily gone with which and the only reason I bring
up Texas specifically, and you can talk about their their record,
their quad one wins and all that they're a bigger brand, like,
no doubt about it, Texas rates, We get that. And
there's a conspiracy theory that because the NCAA tournament, which
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this is the only money generator for the NCAA, this
is the biggest there's a misconception that like college football
actually actually helps out. But the reality is, like it's
really March madness. College football does really nothing for the
NCAA as far as generating revenue for them. This is
this is it, and so TV ratings matter. The gambling
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outfits obviously, this is a huge I mean, this is
quite possibly one of the single biggest you know, a
couple of weeks in sports betting of the year. And
I've told you guys before, if you had a buddy
who you know is in that world, and there's there
are some you know, big sharks out there and all
they do is bet college basketball. That is all they
do to make their living. That's how big college basketball is,
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in particular.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
When it comes to March Madness.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So I understand that you want to kind of help
drive up you know, ratings and attention to it, but
it does feel like there are some teams that shouldn't
have gotten in this year that did that. We're using
UNC as one of them. They're a blue blood. You
can make that case too, but Texas resume. When I
look at it, I'm like, yeah, I don't know. I
would rather seen West Virginia in there.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I mean, do you think it's because the conference maybe
respect it more considered better. I mean, Arizona seems to
be the one. Arizona and Kansas and basketball, they seem
to be ones that make sense in the Big Twelve.
But I mean if you look at it from top
to bottom, I don't know that there's a whole bunch
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of respect. I mean Cincinnati historically, you know, but I
don't know. I don't look at Houston definitely historically. But
when you get into the SEC, I mean, I mean
that's a big conference, it's a big name, and there's
a lot of I mean when you say that, there
are a lot of teams that maybe hold a little
bit more you know, respect going into it. I mean,
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I would.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Say this is my perspective on college basketball. There's more
parody in college basketball than ever before. And I also
think that the March MADNS tournament set up, it will
take good teams on a bad shooting night and bounce
them out in a heartbeat. And we've all been there,
We've all done that. We've all filled out brackets thinking
whether it was Virginia who got be by a sixteen
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seed or whoever you want to point to, we've all
gone through that exercise of thinking one of the favorites
was going to make it through bad shooting nights. Someone
gets in foul trouble, someone gets injured, and they're out,
and that's unfortunate how it works. And I would make
the case even more so you know these teams aren't
as stacked as they once were, Yes, Duke to me
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is you know?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
To me, I think they're them in Florida.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I could you know either of those two teams from
what I've watched this year in Auburn. Those are the
three that if I had to put money on those
three teams, and I'll give you the field, that would
be how I'd go about constructing that, Like that's that's
how i'd present that argument. But I think I just
think it's a more level playing field now. And I
think you saw that era of one and done's with
Caliperi that kind of went out the wayside because so
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many more teams that had more experience or had a
different mix of players were able to handle that tournament
atmosphere and everything that comes along with it, because you
don't really get a true home field advantage Like you
mentioned Houston for example, They've been phenomenal this year. They're
sixteen and one at home. That doesn't matter that when
it comes to then see a tournament, you know you're
not really playing on.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Your home court.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
You know, the confines of those stadium setups and how
the basket looks in regards to like the deep backdrops
and everything else. Like, all those things are different, and
you can find yourself in a tough shooting night as
you're trying to adjust. So again, I just I would
have liked to see in a team like West Virginia
and I thought should have been in over a team
like Texas. Might upset some people whatever. I just think
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it's their their opportunity and their journey to get in.
And I do think there's a little bit of brand
bias that played a.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Role in all this.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Tough balls and sucks for you guys. You're gonna go
against me. I mean, I'll call it right now. Lee,
you can mark this just like we marked my interesting
question to John Palm Morosi last hour. You can mark this,
I'm winning this Bracket Challenge this year. You can mark
that I will finish first on this show in the
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Bracket Challenge this year, guaranteed we'll see.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Or what.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Or nothing like this is not everything has to be
a bet here, all right. Not if everything has to
be some bet, some wager, or you guys get together
and splice together some audio that makes me sound like
a horse's ass at the end of the whole thing.
Not everything has to go.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
With I wasn't around for that one, so don't put
that on me. You chose to make that that uh,
that wager and you never paid it up. By the way,
do you know, well, that's that's very true. He knows.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
He told me that's true.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
By the way, if Tony Roma gets ten million dollars
a year, I'm getting a sex change. That's completely taken
out of context.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
What was the context, Jonas?
Speaker 6 (09:40):
There was rumors that Tony Romo was going to get
a big contract from CBO more than that. Yeah, By
the way, if Tony Roma gets ten million dollars a year,
I'm getting a sex change, what do you get eighteen,
you get eighteen something.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Like that, sixteen eighteen something there.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Then goes.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
I thought it was going to go, but you know, hey,
it happens. I do know this, you guys, you guys
do oh, you guys, do somebody that you guys owe
somebody an apology. Cooper Cup was just trying to find
a home and free agency. You guys were reckless on
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the air calling out Amish communities, looking up different Amish
villages across the country. All the guy wanted to do
is go back home and play for the Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
He did.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
He signed a three year deal. So the floor is yours.
If you guys want to apologize to not only Cooper Cup,
but his family and the Amish. No doubt listening to
us right now on the iHeartRadio app or on a
radio dial and a horse and buggy somewhere in the Midwest.
Go ahead and make that. Make that happen.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
They get they get showed by segment by segment with
pigeons and ravens. I'm they are listening. They're just reading
the transcripts, that's all.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I mean. There is a Pacific Northwest Mine conference up
there there.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
You go next to the Anabaptist congregations in Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Alaska, Montana, and.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Utah, Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
So maybe maybe he's a keynote speaker for that there.
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Speaker 4 (12:47):
Lee can't even get Pete anymore? That oh no, yeah,
so we will jan the Jordan's schult slide continue. Dang
oh well.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Yeah so so we'll keep you posted as to whether
or not Pete Prisco still banged up from Saint Patti's
Day or or he's going to be a part of
this show. Does Pete? That?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Does Pete seem like.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
The guy type of guy that would party on Saint
Patty's Day.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Seems like he would be.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
He might, he might have a drink or two, but
he's more of a Columbus State type guy.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
You know.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
Okay, yeah, that makes sense, which.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Suggest that that Tam would suggest that he takes every
advantage he can of an outside bar and having you know,
fellowship with friends around the bar.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Okay, not wrong, now.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I mean it's very fine.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
I'm being told that we have Pete Prisco. There might
be a little bit of an issue with the connection,
maybe some crackling on the phone. So Pete Prisco, can
you hear us?
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
No, Pete Prisco yet.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
So Pete Prisco, it's okay. Though we do we do
a segment with Albert Breer, you know, so we we
know how to get through phone technical issues. You know,
it's smooth. It's a good at us, you know.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
Yeah, thing's happening the way we do it. So we
are we will have Pete lead to that baby.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Smooth operator.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
All right, a smooth operator. Pete Prisco, can you hear us?
Speaker 5 (14:22):
I hear you?
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Oh there we go there we.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Are locked in and ready to go with Pete Prisco.
He is senior NFL columnist for the CBS Sports and
analyst on CBS Sports h Q. You can get him
on X at Prisco, CBS.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
And Pete got to be to be a senior senior
at your job. Pete like, how old.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
You got it? How old you gotta be? You gotta
be old and you got to be around for twenty
five years? Like I've been in place that Pete.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Educate these guys who started power wreckings me how many
years ago?
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Well, when I started there, which was twenty five years ago,
I thought, you thirty, I'm having my twenty. I know,
I'm having my twenty fifth anniversary at CBS in November,
which is incredible.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
What are they gonna get you? A tic tac? Like,
what are they gonna get you?
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Some probably a foot out the door?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Oh, come on, they would do that to you, would they?
Speaker 5 (15:18):
No? Well, you know we're all replaceable, aren't we. Brady.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
As you found out when Kyle longed to.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Kyle long didn't take my spot.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I know you think that, but he actually is eventually
replacing you because you have to have someone else who's bald.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
So there you go.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
You know what you know what's funny You say that
and everybody laughs, because when me and you used to
do the picture, it was like this big giant headed
hair and big giant head being the thing there going
but big giant head of hair, and then you have
bald head. Now you have two shiny heads in the
same and it's like somebody made a joke about what
maybe in the mini me or something, you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Oh wow, I can't believe they do that to your Pete.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
You would too.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I gotta ask you, though, as you transition to talking
actually about the NFL and your guy Rodgers, does it
make sense for him to fall in the footsteps of
Brett Favor and go to Minnesota? Are you a little
bit like confused by why Minnesota would signed back Darnold?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
But they entertain Rogers.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Rogers is better right now? I mean, look, if I
were Aaron Rodgers and the Vikings wanted me, that would
be fantastic. It could be the best spot of all
of them. You go there, you get a you get
a great play call, or you get a great system,
you get a great receivers. What's not the like about it?
Now the question becomes do they want him? And I
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think that's what they're trying to work through. But I mean,
as far as Rogers, there's no better place for him
than being in Minnesota, and and so I think if
they didn't want them, he would definitely go there.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Why has it taken so long, then, Pete? And why
aren't the other teams just moving? Is it really? Is
this really a case of everybody is waiting on Aaron
Rodgers just the way.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
He likes it is? I mean, but but but LaVar,
when you wait, what do you What are your options
if you don't wait, if you're if you're the Giants,
what are your options if you don't win?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
I just feel like only one team is going to
get I don't feel like one team is going to
get Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers has made it it's seemingly
clear that he wants the one team that is Minnesota.
If I'm Pittsburgh or I'm I'm New York, I'm making
a move on a different quarterback. I don't I don't
understand why that that's like a hard concept who to get. Well,
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they clearly it's clearly not Russell Wilson. Then, so I
don't know who that who is? And I don't know
that it's a name that is being regularly circulated throughout
the media circles. But they got to get somebody, especially,
I mean both teams. They've got to get somebody. I
mean who who is there and who's there in room starter?
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Who's there right now that they're starting, are they going
with who they have? It seems like they gotta find somebody.
I don't know who it is, but I just don't
understand why you're just waiting on Aaron Rodgers. I think
you got to be a little bit more proactive than that.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Oh, he's the best option out there, so you wait
and see what happens. There's no rush right now, what
are you doing. You're an off season workouts. There's no
rush to go get a guy. So you wait for
Aaron Rodgers. If he doesn't, if he's not your guy,
then you then you start going to get a guy
to fill that role and decide what you're gonna do.
But right now, you wait on Aaron Rodgers. Now you
don't wait, you know, until the draft, you don't wait
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until the offseason program begins. But you certainly have time
now to wait for him. Give him another week if
he decides that you know he's not going to play,
or if he's going to go to Minnesota, he's going
to go to one of the other two teams. Then
you start to do your due diligence on the other guy.
Well you're doing your due diligence now, but then you
decide to make a decision to get one. There's also
the draft. You can be aggressive if you want to
and try and go off to the number one spot
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if you believe that's the case, or to go to
the number two spot if you want to make that move,
if you want to get one of those guys. So
there are options. But this is what happens when you
don't go your position. You panic, you panic, you panic,
and now they're all in panic mode.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Pete,
this is going to be tough for you, probably a couple,
you know, humbling couple of years for your guy, Russell Wilson,
now that he's waiting around on Aaron Rodgers to see,
you know, who's going to be planned B for him
or plan C for him based on interest from the
Giants or the lack thereof from the Steelers, the Titans,
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the Browns, have been rumored, what the hell is going
on with Russ? Why are people so hesitant to want
to go to him.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Well, it's been a rough couple of years for Russ.
Let's be real. I mean, other than the fact he
made a boatload of money from the Broncos on the
playing field's been a rough couple of years. And he
is a backup quarterback in the NFL. And if you're
sitting there and you think that Russ Wilson's going to
come in and fix the New York Giants, you're crazy.
He's just not. He's a backup quarterback now. And I
think that's one of the situations where you know, LeVar White,
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they should wait, what not wait what should they do?
Go sign Russell Wilson in New York to play quarterback?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
That's not gonna see.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
That just seems so strange to say that to me.
I just honestly, like, is Russell Wilson that much of
an abomination of a quarterback that this is where we're
at we're talking about him? I don't I don't buy that.
I don't buy that at all. I don't understand what
it is that that now Russell Wilson is the punchline too.
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Oh my gosh, what you're gonna go sign Russell Wilson
in free agency? Like, I don't know, I think that's
something that right, he's not that good.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
No, he's not that good. And and and look he
takes he holds the ball. He takes a ton of backs.
He's one of those guys that, okay, good. He could
throw the moon ball down the fireline and make a
receiver ball, but catch it once in the blue moon.
But he doesn't throw it to the middle. He's not
very good right now, He's not very good.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Hey, Pete, can you describe what a moon ball looks like?
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Like?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Help describe our listeners what exactly that looks like?
Speaker 5 (21:02):
He throws the fifty fifty?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Oh no, no, oh, I guess oh here he is
he's back.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Yeah, the high the high arch or that George Picking
plucks out of the air when he's covered by a
guy that he shouldn't be thrown to him in the
first place.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
You know what I was gonna say, like, have you
called like the helium balloon or what do you call
it before?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
No, No, he doesn't have a helium because he has
a good arm. So the helium balloon is. The guys
that don't have the good arm, those passes stay in
the air for about sixty minutes, you know how they are.
I mean, you know there's a lot of guys around
the league that have helium balloon arms. But no, he's
got a good arm. He does. He just throws it
up and just go make a play for me, George.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I mean, come on, break she'd I got an as Rogers.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
He threw double digit interceptions, by the way, Aaron.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Rodgers through twenty eight through twenty eight touchdown passes last
year he did.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
You know, he threw eleven interceptions too.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
But he threw twenty eight touchdown passes. That's more than
a lot of the guys that you mahomes, more than
Justin Herbert, more than a lot of guys on that list.
So you know, look at it, Aaron Rodgers. So, LeVar,
are you saying that Russell Wilson is better than Aaron
Rodgers right now?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I'm not saying Russell Wilson. I'm not as good ass
today as good ass as good ass, Oh god.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
I'm glad I got a good chuckle in this morning.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
That's I don't see why that's so common Damn, I
don't hit it. I don't get it because you.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Watched them last year. They're not even close. They're not
close to each other. He's terrible. He's a backup quarterback.
Aaron Rodgers can still start for a year or two
if they were twenty eight years old right now, same
exact games, twenty eight years old. Which one would people
be clamoring the signs Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I mean, I get that, but today I don't. I
don't think that that's that there's that large of a difference.
There's not that large of a gap between Aaron Rodgers
and Russell Wilson. Well today, everybody, that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
The way darn Aaron Rodgers and they waiting on Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
That's get That's fair. All right.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Well, let's transition to a team, Pete, that you once
made a grand proclamation about.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
And that is the Cincinnati Bengals the night they drafted
Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Guaranteeing multiple Super Bowls within the next ten years. Well,
we're about halfway through that. Maybe a little bit on
the back side of it, but the Bengals make some
big moves they extend Jamar Chase to a big time deal.
They get t Higgins in there as well. Still looking
for the details on that one. I feel like you
might have got shafted a bit. They also signed back
Mike Gesseki. They're trying to get Trey Hendrickson. Pete, Is
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this the year you picked the Cincinnati Bengals to win
the Super Bowl and your proclamation comes true?
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Let me see what they do in the draft on defense,
and I'll get back, I mean, Brady, the proclamation. You've
again we've gone to the exaggeration category here because.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
It wasn't we have Pete, We have not.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
I said they would win one in ten, which they
haven't done, by the way, so I'm still not right
on it.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
It's worse you've never picked them, that's the worst part.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Yeah, Well, because usually there's better teams than in the conference.
And probably wouldn't pick them again next year, but Mike,
you never know. Let me see what they do.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
But I like what they what's the point of you
saying it? Then if you don't actually believe what you said.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Well, because I thought they would build their defense a
little bit better than it was, and by the way,
they were winning a whisker of winning the whole damn
thing a couple of years ago. Get the rams, I.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Mean horseshoes and hand grenades.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Pete, you're correct, and slow dancing. It's close too, Yeah,
it matters and close and slow dancing and in hand
grenades and horseshoes, you're right. But look, the bottom line
is I like what they've done for all the years
of criticism they've taken in that organization, and there's been
plenty of it. You know, the old Chief Bengals, they
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don't have a darge scouting staff, they won't spend put
money into the team. Well they did, and they did it,
and they look it's good for the quarterback. That offense
is different front when T. Higgags isn't on the field.
And so now they just have to draft and supplement
the roster. And by that I mean get better on defense.
Some of those young guys got to get to the
point where they got to get coached up better. They
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spent a lot of draft assets on defense that haven't
quite lived up to the expectations. Well, now it's time
to get them to get to that expectation. And if
they do, they'll be better on defense, new defense. It's
going to be changed there. So look, I'm optimistic about
the Bengals. I will say this, if you look at
that division, there's two teams in the division. It's the
Bengals right now as we stand here, right now, it's
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the Bengals and the Ravens. Because the Steelers have so
much uncertainty at the quarterback position.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Pee, why are you arguing so much with the barstool guys?
Your Eagles are? Your Eagles opinion? Is really that offensive
to people that this is still dragging on even after
they won a super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Well, I mean, look, that went on and on and
on the week after the super Bowl because I did that,
you know that clickbait thing that they say on Wednesday
after the Super Bowl, And then it went on and on.
Eagles fans got nasty, went on a radio couple of
radio stations, they got nasty, and then it lived in
it for a while, and then all of a sudden,
they went on barstool with those guys, and I had
no idea. The producer was an Eagles fan, so he
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got on there and ran it and raged like like
a fan that he is screaming and yelling and and
you know. So look, it keeps keeps on going, and
then the Eagles fans come back out, I'm an idiot,
you're moron. You don't know what you're talking about. And
the reality is, Look, the reality is, like I said
to them, Jalen Hurts good quarterback, not a great quarterback.
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But there's only like four or five great quarterbacks in
the NFL. And you know five or six who are they?
Alan Lamar, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, and James Daniels is
on his way to be in the fifth one those
that's to them guys right there, six to fifteen, interchange
and move them around from year to year. They will change.
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That's the way it is. And Jalen Hurts is one
of those guys. And they keep, you know, they keep
screaming why he wanted his Super Bowl? He outplayed Mahomes. Great.
It's a team game. If you rank, like I told
those guys, if you rank that offensive unit one through
for the offensive units one through four, offensive line would
be one, take one, Barkley would be two, the receiving
group would be three, and Jalen Hurts would be four.
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So I guess that makes him the weak link of
the offense then, right. I mean, that's the reality of it.
He's a good player, not a great player. I stand
by what I said. I will not back away from it.
And there are other guys in this league that I
would take for the next five years. Just like I stated,
would you take.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Aaron Rodgers over Jalen Hurts if you were the Eagles.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
For tomorrow afternoon or for.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
For next season? Next season, if you could get Aaron
Rodgers and your Philly would you take It's just a
hypothetical because I just want to see where your mind
is right now.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Probably not no, But there are a lot of other
guys I would take before him, though, you know, I
just just because how many guys would have won the
Super Bowl with the phillip That's the other question. Would
Aaron Rodgers have won the Super Bowl with the Philadelphia
Eagles the way they play?
Speaker 6 (28:10):
Probably?
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I think that's a hard one.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
But that's just it because he had.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Personnel in New York. But I think there's a bigger
issue in New York other than outside.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Of get a terrible offensive line in New York and
and look, when you have an offensive line like that,
the running game like that, the receivers like that, you know,
it makes the offense so much easier for whoever's playing quarterback.
And that's that's not to say that Jalen Hurts isn't
a good player, but to think he's one of the
elite of the elite of the NFL. That's there's no
way he's up there with those top guys. There's no
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way he just isn't. And in one radio interview, the
guy said, oh, well, look, Josh Allen never beats Mahomes.
So there's not a general manager in the NFL that
would take Jalen Hurts over Josh Allen, including Howie Roseman.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
By the way, you don't feel like there's any intangibles there.
The reason why they're making it to the super Bowl.
I mean it falls at the feet of the coach
and the quarterback when the team wins and loses. Like
he's got to have more of a role than what
you're I think you're minimizing him a little bit.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
I'm not minimizing his role. I think I said he's
a good players, really yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
You can't just be a good play like there's a
few you can name that. Like, I don't feel like
Trent Dilferd was like a crazy good quarterback. I think
Brad Johnson was good, but I don't think he was
a crazy good quarterback. You know, I don't think he
was crazy good, but I thought he was good enough.
I just feel like you got to play a larger
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role than just being pretty good in order to go
to the Super Bowl, win one and make two appearances
in it. I just think that there there has to
be for the most important position. He's great at something.
He's got to be great at something, Pete, He's got
to be great at something. I mean, if we're looking
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I think he's got to be great at something like
great could be a blanket turn that's a blanket way
of looking at it. I think he's great at something.
There's there, and there may be more than one thing
that he's great at, but he's great at side. He
might not be great at some of the things that
you may pinpoint, but he's got to be great at something.
They've they've been successful.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Can I ask this question because I think you're referring
to Russell Wilson. Are you not there, LeVar, I'm talking
about Jaylen Hurts right now. Okay, but let me ask
about Russell. Would you agree Russell's Hall of Fame quarterback?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Pete?
Speaker 5 (30:32):
What that?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Would you agree Russell Wilson's a Hall of Fame quarterback?
Speaker 5 (30:36):
I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I mean for a guy who's been like ten Pro
Bowls and won a Super Bowl, he's not getting in.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Well, we got a guy. We got a guy in
New York who won two Super Bowls and is in
top ten and touchdown passes in passing the yards, and
he didn't get.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
In first ballot. He didn't get in first ballot.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
He might not spell it.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
He's probably going to get in, Pete, I mean, there's okay.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
What the fameou is right now? I'm not sure the
way the Hall of Fame voting is right now. I
don't know if he is going to get it.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
I knew it, Okay, Pete.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
What if I told you though Russell Wilson has been
the ten Pro Bowls and he only went to four
Pro Bowls?
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Is it the fans vote for Pro Bowls? Give me
a break.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
It's players people too, so do the coach it plays
getting into the halday.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
What if I told you that Russell Wilson played on
the number one scoring had the team that had the
number one scoring defense four years in a row, and
the last team to do that was the fifties Dynasty Browns.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
What if I told you that that's and that's a
great stat The problem with that is about six of
his Pro Bowls.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Came after that.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
But what are you talking about? Ten Pro Bowls? Brady?
When did he he had three good years after the guy?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Are you trying to argue with facts?
Speaker 5 (31:47):
But I'm not went away after the legion of boom
went away. He had three good years and in fact,
he might have had one of his best year and
then it kind of went off.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
He went to six Super Bowls, Pete, like what you
tell you or Bulls Pro Bowls?
Speaker 5 (32:00):
When was the last time Russell Wilson was good? Dang?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I mean it was pretty good this last season. I
was gonna say he stepped in for Pittsburgh, even though
you disagree with that. I don't think his last year
it was in Denver, was as bad as you make
it out to be. Twenty twenty was probably his last.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
How he was in that year, I.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Understand your your butt buddies with one of the guys
in the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Front office, twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Twenty twenty was his last high high watermark probably as
far as statistically speaking.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Yes, I mean he has a chance to be in
the Hall of Fame. But I mean if he like
many getting in, he ain't getting in.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Eli Manning was not a first ballot, Like, we can't
make a big deal about Eli Manning not being a
He's not a first ballot Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
The way the Hall of Fame is structured right now,
I'm not sure he's going to get in.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Really, he's going. He's a two time MVP of the
Super Bowl. He's going, and he's a Manning. He's going
to get in. Pete Like, that's ridiculous. He's going to
get in. I think the better question here is is
like you're saying that you don't think that Russell Wilson
has the chance to get in. That Pro Bowls don't matter.
Pro Bowls matter, Bro. I'm gonna be the first one
to stand on that, and I'm gonna stand that, Yeah,
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Pro Bowls matter. Don't say they don't matter. They do matter.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
They shouldn't matter because you see, okay.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Then they shouldn't have it. I don't think I don't
think an MVP of the League award should matter if
you don't have one defensive player up for it, at
least one player every year, But they do, and it matters.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
That matters when a guy drops that, when a guy
drops out and the fourth alternate goes.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
That shouldn't matter as much. That should not, but that's
always been stated, but that has. But but you already
have the distinction, Pete. If you're if you are the
first one voted in and you defer, that doesn't do
away with the award. That just meant that you didn't
want to play in the game. That doesn't diminishing being
voted a Pro Bowl.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Fame.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Yes, yes, Philip Rivers has had a Hall of Fame
career because having success and doing it at a high
level for duration of time is generally you know, that's
what it's measured on. So while he didn't win a
Super Bowl, he had he had a prolific career as
a quarterback. I think Philip Rivers is a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
I would if Russell Wilson is a Hall of Famer,
Philip Rivers is a Hall of Famer, I would agree
with that.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
But I don't think that. I don't I have no
reservations of saying that that Philip Rivers had a Hall
of Fame career. I have no problem saying.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
That LaVar wants to fill the damn Hall up with quarterbacks,
doesn't he?
Speaker 4 (34:36):
I mean, no, I'm not I'm not saying fill the
Hall up with quarterbacks. I'm just saying, you know, if
we're saying who who has done enough to get into
the Hall of Fame, I think that those are two names.
Russell Wilson and Philip Rivers are two names that you
could mention and say they deserve to be in the
Hall of Fame. And Eli Manning you can add Eli
Manning's name to it as well. Maybe he didn't have
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the accolades in terms of the BI do you work
outside of the Super Bowls and the m v P.
But he nonetheless made made enough Pro Bowls, He made
enough Pro Bowls, and he is a two time m
VP of the Super Bowl. How many guys can say that?
Not many. That's another name, That's another name you could
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throw in the conversation.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
Well, Pete, I.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Guess they're all. Guess they're all in.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Pete, You're Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Repete, hold on, hold on, Pete, are you really not
going to give LeVar the sound?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
The siren is not going to.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Go off.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
The quarterback whisper.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
I am not a quarterback whisper, not a whisper quarterback
defender quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
And I still do what the hell happened to you?
I still do you know what happened that that changed you?
He changed you forever? Oh?
Speaker 4 (35:56):
No, Pete, You're you know what if I see you again?
I'm a thumb rest.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Just called Pete.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
He is, Pete, He's odd ex at Prisco, CBS Pete Prisco,
always a good time, CBS Sports HQ Senior NFL columnists
for CBS Sports. Thanks Pete. We'll do it again next week.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
You got it, guys, Take care there he is?
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Speaker 7 (37:13):
Guys, I sent this over to you if you saw
it cosm Here in La Dodgers fans lined up all
the way down the block, filled up the arena. The
problem is, uh, they don't. They can't sell beer until
six am Pacific time. Game just ended five minutes before
six am, So unless you were pulling a little plastic
flask like.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Your boy here, you're kind of out of Look so
you're just staying there for for leftover.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
So what this was really near and dear to your heart,
wasn't it? We I noticed this?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yeah, what's the work not getting a drink before six am.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
That really hurts.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
That's a deal breaker.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
Lee, what's the workerround here, like, what would you recommend?
Because you know, I think they're doing it tomorrow morning
as well too.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
So Cosm is a beast though, man.
Speaker 7 (37:54):
Yeah, so if you guys used to go to Enough Experience, Yeah,
it looks awesome. It's gonna be looked great for for
March madness.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
That's goodnament.
Speaker 7 (38:03):
Sure, and uh yeah, you just put it in your
back pocket. Bring a little plastic one that you could
grab at your at your local convenience store.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
You're good to go. Load it up.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Load it up with one though, Well, whatever your poison is,
I mean, what would you recommend though?
Speaker 4 (38:19):
For a baseball game? I would say tequila.
Speaker 7 (38:21):
Tequila is your choice for baseball?
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Why is that?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Lee?
Speaker 4 (38:25):
What? What what specific group is that connected to?
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Lee?
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Well?
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Doortiers do yers?
Speaker 6 (38:30):
You're gonna be you're gonna want some tequila with Oh
you act like they were just showing Cosm on the
local news here.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
And how should you say you should drink tequila for
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Speaker 4 (01:32):
We got the.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
NCAA Tournament coming up later on this week, we got
playing games. People still crying because North Carolina got in
all sorts of fun stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Are we not going to talk about the SEC? What
the thirteen fourteen teams in?
Speaker 6 (01:47):
There's sixty something teams, like there's.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Sixty eight, but there was also what three hundred men's
basketball team? So it's as much as we want to
act like there shouldn't be these conversations and debates, it
does feel like West Virginia got snubbed. And it does
feel like when you've got Texas, you wouldn't see bigger
brands as part of it. The SEC getting that many
teams in, and I understand the SEC was solid. Don't
(02:12):
get me wrong, you know, I actually I love Florida
in this tournament. I think they're built to potentially when it.
Auburn's been fantastic all season long. I get all that,
but I just I think we end up getting into
this like brand bias with some of these conferences, and
we'll see how the tournament plays out. You know, there's
typically on average eight upsets I think in the first
(02:32):
round per year that occur. I don't know that we'll
see that many, but I do think that there's enough
of a conversation about how we go about selecting some
of these like mid tier teams that are on the bubble,
like if they're actually deserving of getting in.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
I was actually gonna ask you, is, what do you
how does it feel to know that you're not gonna
win the Bragget Challenge this year? Because I don't know
what that feeling is because I know I'm gonna win.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Who won last year? Again? Do you remember who won
last year?
Speaker 6 (03:00):
So we got to stop living in the past.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Jesus went He definitely didn't. I don't actually think any
of us won last year. I mean, Jonas didn't even
fill out half the bract a couple of years ago.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Who won the show, who went out of the show,
Who had the best showing out of the show? Curious
who did the best? I believe it was far Yeah,
follow up. It probably was.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I think just last actually listen, listen West.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Virginia there there what rank ended up being ranked seventh
in in their conference. Again, if you're not a top
seeded team, it's so many teams. There are so many
teams that make it into this tournament. I just I
think that when you have the opportunity to play in
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a conference where you can punch your ticket by winning games,
but you don't win enough games, I just I don't know.
I don't have a hard feeling Sold Virginia being left out.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
So a team that goes six and twelve in conference
play and nineteen and fifteen on the season, you think
they should get in.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Because that's who's that's who Texas is.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Yeah, all right, so where were they? Where were they ranked?
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Right?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
But what they they're in the plan, they're in the
they're one of the one of.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
The four plans first four that have to play to
make actually into the sixty four. I mean, that's what
I'm saying is is you could have you could have
easily gone with which and the only reason I bring
up Texas specifically, and you can talk about their their record,
their quad one wins and all that they're a bigger brand, like,
no doubt about it, Texas rates, We get that. And
there's a conspiracy theory that because the NCAA tournament, which
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this is the only money generator for the NCAA, this
is the biggest there's a misconception that like college football
actually actually helps out. But the reality is, like it's
really March madness. College football does really nothing for the
NCAA as far as generating revenue for them. This is
this is it, and so TV ratings matter. The gambling
(05:11):
outfits obviously, this is a huge I mean, this is
quite possibly one of the single biggest you know, a
couple of weeks in sports betting of the year. And
I've told you guys before, if you had a buddy
who you know is in that world, and there's there
are some you know, big sharks out there and all
they do is bet college basketball. That is all they
do to make their living. That's how big college basketball is,
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in particular.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
When it comes to March Madness.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
So I understand that you want to kind of help
drive up you know, ratings and attention to it, but
it does feel like there are some teams that shouldn't
have gotten in this year that did that. We're using
UNC as one of them. They're a blue blood. You
can make that case too, but Texas resume. When I
look at it, I'm like, yeah, I don't know. I
would rather seen West Virginia in there.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I mean, do you think it's because the conference maybe
respect it more considered better. I mean, Arizona seems to
be the one. Arizona and Kansas and basketball, they seem
to be ones that make sense in the Big Twelve.
But I mean if you look at it from top
to bottom, I don't know that there's a whole bunch
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of respect. I mean Cincinnati historically, you know, but I
don't know. I don't look at Houston definitely historically. But
when you get into the SEC, I mean, I mean
that's a big conference, it's a big name, and there's
a lot of I mean when you say that, there
are a lot of teams that maybe hold a little
bit more you know, respect going into it. I mean,
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I would.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Say this is my perspective on college basketball. There's more
parody in college basketball than ever before. And I also
think that the March MADNS tournament set up, it will
take good teams on a bad shooting night and bounce
them out in a heartbeat. And we've all been there,
We've all done that. We've all filled out brackets thinking
whether it was Virginia who got be by a sixteen
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seed or whoever you want to point to, we've all
gone through that exercise of thinking one of the favorites
was going to make it through bad shooting nights. Someone
gets in foul trouble, someone gets injured, and they're out,
and that's unfortunate how it works. And I would make
the case even more so you know these teams aren't
as stacked as they once were, Yes, Duke to me
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is you know?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
To me, I think they're them in Florida.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I could you know either of those two teams from
what I've watched this year in Auburn. Those are the
three that if I had to put money on those
three teams, and I'll give you the field, that would
be how I'd go about constructing that, Like that's that's
how i'd present that argument. But I think I just
think it's a more level playing field now. And I
think you saw that era of one and done's with
Caliperi that kind of went out the wayside because so
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many more teams that had more experience or had a
different mix of players were able to handle that tournament
atmosphere and everything that comes along with it, because you
don't really get a true home field advantage Like you
mentioned Houston for example, They've been phenomenal this year. They're
sixteen and one at home. That doesn't matter that when
it comes to then see a tournament, you know you're
not really playing on.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Your home court.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
You know, the confines of those stadium setups and how
the basket looks in regards to like the deep backdrops
and everything else. Like, all those things are different, and
you can find yourself in a tough shooting night as
you're trying to adjust. So again, I just I would
have liked to see in a team like West Virginia
and I thought should have been in over a team
like Texas. Might upset some people whatever. I just think
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it's their their opportunity and their journey to get in.
And I do think there's a little bit of brand
bias that played a.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Role in all this.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Tough balls and sucks for you guys. You're gonna go
against me. I mean, I'll call it right now. Lee,
you can mark this just like we marked my interesting
question to John Palm Morosi last hour. You can mark this,
I'm winning this Bracket Challenge this year. You can mark
that I will finish first on this show in the
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Bracket Challenge this year, guaranteed we'll see.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Or what.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Or nothing like this is not everything has to be
a bet here, all right. Not if everything has to
be some bet, some wager, or you guys get together
and splice together some audio that makes me sound like
a horse's ass at the end of the whole thing.
Not everything has to go.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
With I wasn't around for that one, so don't put
that on me. You chose to make that that uh,
that wager and you never paid it up. By the way,
do you know, well, that's that's very true. He knows.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
He told me that's true.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
By the way, if Tony Roma gets ten million dollars
a year, I'm getting a sex change. That's completely taken
out of context.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
What was the context, Jonas?
Speaker 6 (09:40):
There was rumors that Tony Romo was going to get
a big contract from CBO more than that. Yeah, By
the way, if Tony Roma gets ten million dollars a year,
I'm getting a sex change, what do you get eighteen,
you get eighteen something.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Like that, sixteen eighteen something there.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Then goes.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
I thought it was going to go, but you know, hey,
it happens. I do know this, you guys, you guys
do oh, you guys, do somebody that you guys owe
somebody an apology. Cooper Cup was just trying to find
a home and free agency. You guys were reckless on
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the air calling out Amish communities, looking up different Amish
villages across the country. All the guy wanted to do
is go back home and play for the Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
He did.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
He signed a three year deal. So the floor is yours.
If you guys want to apologize to not only Cooper Cup,
but his family and the Amish. No doubt listening to
us right now on the iHeartRadio app or on a
radio dial and a horse and buggy somewhere in the Midwest.
Go ahead and make that. Make that happen.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
They get they get showed by segment by segment with
pigeons and ravens. I'm they are listening. They're just reading
the transcripts, that's all.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I mean. There is a Pacific Northwest Mine conference up
there there.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
You go next to the Anabaptist congregations in Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Alaska, Montana, and.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Utah, Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
So maybe maybe he's a keynote speaker for that there.
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Pete Prisco, who should be joining us here molentarily.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Lee can't even get Pete anymore? That oh no, yeah,
so we will jan the Jordan's schult slide continue. Dang
oh well.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Yeah so so we'll keep you posted as to whether
or not Pete Prisco still banged up from Saint Patti's
Day or or he's going to be a part of
this show. Does Pete? That?
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Does Pete seem like.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
The guy type of guy that would party on Saint
Patty's Day.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Seems like he would be.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
He might, he might have a drink or two, but
he's more of a Columbus State type guy.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
You know.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
Okay, yeah, that makes sense, which.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Suggest that that Tam would suggest that he takes every
advantage he can of an outside bar and having you know,
fellowship with friends around the bar.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Okay, not wrong, now.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I mean it's very fine.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
I'm being told that we have Pete Prisco. There might
be a little bit of an issue with the connection,
maybe some crackling on the phone. So Pete Prisco, can
you hear us?
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (13:53):
No, Pete Prisco yet.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
So Pete Prisco, it's okay. Though we do we do
a segment with Albert Breer, you know, so we we
know how to get through phone technical issues. You know,
it's smooth. It's a good at us, you know.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
Yeah, thing's happening the way we do it. So we
are we will have Pete lead to that baby.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Smooth operator.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
All right, a smooth operator. Pete Prisco, can you hear us?
Speaker 5 (14:22):
I hear you?
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Oh there we go there we.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Are locked in and ready to go with Pete Prisco.
He is senior NFL columnist for the CBS Sports and
analyst on CBS Sports h Q. You can get him
on X at Prisco, CBS.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
And Pete got to be to be a senior senior
at your job. Pete like, how old.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
You got it? How old you gotta be? You gotta
be old and you got to be around for twenty
five years? Like I've been in place that Pete.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Educate these guys who started power wreckings me how many
years ago?
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Well, when I started there, which was twenty five years ago,
I thought, you thirty, I'm having my twenty. I know,
I'm having my twenty fifth anniversary at CBS in November,
which is incredible.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
What are they gonna get you? A tic tac? Like,
what are they gonna get you?
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Some probably a foot out the door?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Oh, come on, they would do that to you, would they?
Speaker 5 (15:18):
No? Well, you know we're all replaceable, aren't we. Brady.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
That's true.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
As you found out when Kyle longed to.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Kyle long didn't take my spot.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I know you think that, but he actually is eventually
replacing you because you have to have someone else who's bald.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
So there you go.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
You know what you know what's funny You say that
and everybody laughs, because when me and you used to
do the picture, it was like this big giant headed
hair and big giant head being the thing there going
but big giant head of hair, and then you have
bald head. Now you have two shiny heads in the
same and it's like somebody made a joke about what
maybe in the mini me or something, you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Oh wow, I can't believe they do that to your Pete.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
You would too.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I gotta ask you, though, as you transition to talking
actually about the NFL and your guy Rodgers, does it
make sense for him to fall in the footsteps of
Brett Favor and go to Minnesota? Are you a little
bit like confused by why Minnesota would signed back Darnold?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
But they entertain Rogers.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Rogers is better right now? I mean, look, if I
were Aaron Rodgers and the Vikings wanted me, that would
be fantastic. It could be the best spot of all
of them. You go there, you get a you get
a great play call, or you get a great system,
you get a great receivers. What's not the like about it?
Now the question becomes do they want him? And I
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think that's what they're trying to work through. But I mean,
as far as Rogers, there's no better place for him
than being in Minnesota, and and so I think if
they didn't want them, he would definitely go there.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Why has it taken so long, then, Pete? And why
aren't the other teams just moving? Is it really? Is
this really a case of everybody is waiting on Aaron
Rodgers just the way.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
He likes it is? I mean, but but but LaVar,
when you wait, what do you What are your options
if you don't wait, if you're if you're the Giants,
what are your options if you don't win?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
I just feel like only one team is going to
get I don't feel like one team is going to
get Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers has made it it's seemingly
clear that he wants the one team that is Minnesota.
If I'm Pittsburgh or I'm I'm New York, I'm making
a move on a different quarterback. I don't I don't
understand why that that's like a hard concept who to get. Well,
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they clearly it's clearly not Russell Wilson. Then, so I
don't know who that who is? And I don't know
that it's a name that is being regularly circulated throughout
the media circles. But they got to get somebody, especially,
I mean both teams. They've got to get somebody. I
mean who who is there and who's there in room starter?
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Who's there right now that they're starting, are they going
with who they have? It seems like they gotta find somebody.
I don't know who it is, but I just don't
understand why you're just waiting on Aaron Rodgers. I think
you got to be a little bit more proactive than that.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Oh, he's the best option out there, so you wait
and see what happens. There's no rush right now, what
are you doing. You're an off season workouts. There's no
rush to go get a guy. So you wait for
Aaron Rodgers. If he doesn't, if he's not your guy,
then you then you start going to get a guy
to fill that role and decide what you're gonna do.
But right now, you wait on Aaron Rodgers. Now you
don't wait, you know, until the draft, you don't wait
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until the offseason program begins. But you certainly have time
now to wait for him. Give him another week if
he decides that you know he's not going to play,
or if he's going to go to Minnesota, he's going
to go to one of the other two teams. Then
you start to do your due diligence on the other guy.
Well you're doing your due diligence now, but then you
decide to make a decision to get one. There's also
the draft. You can be aggressive if you want to
and try and go off to the number one spot
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if you believe that's the case, or to go to
the number two spot if you want to make that move,
if you want to get one of those guys. So
there are options. But this is what happens when you
don't go your position. You panic, you panic, you panic,
and now they're all in panic mode.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Pete Prisco joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Pete,
this is going to be tough for you, probably a couple,
you know, humbling couple of years for your guy, Russell Wilson,
now that he's waiting around on Aaron Rodgers to see,
you know, who's going to be planned B for him
or plan C for him based on interest from the
Giants or the lack thereof from the Steelers, the Titans,
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the Browns, have been rumored, what the hell is going
on with Russ? Why are people so hesitant to want
to go to him.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Well, it's been a rough couple of years for Russ.
Let's be real. I mean, other than the fact he
made a boatload of money from the Broncos on the
playing field's been a rough couple of years. And he
is a backup quarterback in the NFL. And if you're
sitting there and you think that Russ Wilson's going to
come in and fix the New York Giants, you're crazy.
He's just not. He's a backup quarterback now. And I
think that's one of the situations where you know, LeVar White,
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they should wait, what not wait what should they do?
Go sign Russell Wilson in New York to play quarterback?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
That's not gonna see.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
That just seems so strange to say that to me.
I just honestly, like, is Russell Wilson that much of
an abomination of a quarterback that this is where we're
at we're talking about him? I don't I don't buy that.
I don't buy that at all. I don't understand what
it is that that now Russell Wilson is the punchline too.
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Oh my gosh, what you're gonna go sign Russell Wilson
in free agency? Like, I don't know, I think that's
something that right, he's not that good.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
No, he's not that good. And and and look he
takes he holds the ball. He takes a ton of backs.
He's one of those guys that, okay, good. He could
throw the moon ball down the fireline and make a
receiver ball, but catch it once in the blue moon.
But he doesn't throw it to the middle. He's not
very good right now, He's not very good.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Hey, Pete, can you describe what a moon ball looks like?
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Like?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Help describe our listeners what exactly that looks like?
Speaker 5 (21:02):
He throws the fifty fifty?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Oh no, no, oh, I guess oh here he is
he's back.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Yeah, the high the high arch or that George Picking
plucks out of the air when he's covered by a
guy that he shouldn't be thrown to him in the
first place.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
You know what I was gonna say, like, have you
called like the helium balloon or what do you call
it before?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
No, No, he doesn't have a helium because he has
a good arm. So the helium balloon is. The guys
that don't have the good arm, those passes stay in
the air for about sixty minutes, you know how they are.
I mean, you know there's a lot of guys around
the league that have helium balloon arms. But no, he's
got a good arm. He does. He just throws it
up and just go make a play for me, George.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I mean, come on, break she'd I got an as Rogers.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
He threw double digit interceptions, by the way, Aaron.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Rodgers through twenty eight through twenty eight touchdown passes last
year he did.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
You know, he threw eleven interceptions too.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
But he threw twenty eight touchdown passes. That's more than
a lot of the guys that you mahomes, more than
Justin Herbert, more than a lot of guys on that list.
So you know, look at it, Aaron Rodgers. So, LeVar,
are you saying that Russell Wilson is better than Aaron
Rodgers right now?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I'm not saying Russell Wilson. I'm not as good ass
today as good ass as good ass, Oh god.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
I'm glad I got a good chuckle in this morning.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
That's I don't see why that's so common Damn, I
don't hit it. I don't get it because you.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Watched them last year. They're not even close. They're not
close to each other. He's terrible. He's a backup quarterback.
Aaron Rodgers can still start for a year or two
if they were twenty eight years old right now, same
exact games, twenty eight years old. Which one would people
be clamoring the signs Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I mean, I get that, but today I don't. I
don't think that that's that there's that large of a difference.
There's not that large of a gap between Aaron Rodgers
and Russell Wilson. Well today, everybody, that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
The way darn Aaron Rodgers and they waiting on Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
That's get That's fair. All right.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Well, let's transition to a team, Pete, that you once
made a grand proclamation about.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
And that is the Cincinnati Bengals the night they drafted
Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Guaranteeing multiple Super Bowls within the next ten years. Well,
we're about halfway through that. Maybe a little bit on
the back side of it, but the Bengals make some
big moves they extend Jamar Chase to a big time deal.
They get t Higgins in there as well. Still looking
for the details on that one. I feel like you
might have got shafted a bit. They also signed back
Mike Gesseki. They're trying to get Trey Hendrickson. Pete, Is
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this the year you picked the Cincinnati Bengals to win
the Super Bowl and your proclamation comes true?
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Let me see what they do in the draft on defense,
and I'll get back, I mean, Brady, the proclamation. You've
again we've gone to the exaggeration category here because.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
It wasn't we have Pete, We have not.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
I said they would win one in ten, which they
haven't done, by the way, so I'm still not right
on it.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
It's worse you've never picked them, that's the worst part.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Yeah, Well, because usually there's better teams than in the conference.
And probably wouldn't pick them again next year, but Mike,
you never know. Let me see what they do.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
But I like what they what's the point of you
saying it? Then if you don't actually believe what you said.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Well, because I thought they would build their defense a
little bit better than it was, and by the way,
they were winning a whisker of winning the whole damn
thing a couple of years ago. Get the rams, I.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Mean horseshoes and hand grenades.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Pete, you're correct, and slow dancing. It's close too, Yeah,
it matters and close and slow dancing and in hand
grenades and horseshoes, you're right. But look, the bottom line
is I like what they've done for all the years
of criticism they've taken in that organization, and there's been
plenty of it. You know, the old Chief Bengals, they
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don't have a darge scouting staff, they won't spend put
money into the team. Well they did, and they did it,
and they look it's good for the quarterback. That offense
is different front when T. Higgags isn't on the field.
And so now they just have to draft and supplement
the roster. And by that I mean get better on defense.
Some of those young guys got to get to the
point where they got to get coached up better. They
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spent a lot of draft assets on defense that haven't
quite lived up to the expectations. Well, now it's time
to get them to get to that expectation. And if
they do, they'll be better on defense, new defense. It's
going to be changed there. So look, I'm optimistic about
the Bengals. I will say this, if you look at
that division, there's two teams in the division. It's the
Bengals right now as we stand here, right now, it's
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the Bengals and the Ravens. Because the Steelers have so
much uncertainty at the quarterback position.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Pee, why are you arguing so much with the barstool guys?
Your Eagles are? Your Eagles opinion? Is really that offensive
to people that this is still dragging on even after
they won a super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Well, I mean, look, that went on and on and
on the week after the super Bowl because I did that,
you know that clickbait thing that they say on Wednesday
after the Super Bowl, And then it went on and on.
Eagles fans got nasty, went on a radio couple of
radio stations, they got nasty, and then it lived in
it for a while, and then all of a sudden,
they went on barstool with those guys, and I had
no idea. The producer was an Eagles fan, so he
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got on there and ran it and raged like like
a fan that he is screaming and yelling and and
you know. So look, it keeps keeps on going, and
then the Eagles fans come back out, I'm an idiot,
you're moron. You don't know what you're talking about. And
the reality is, Look, the reality is, like I said
to them, Jalen Hurts good quarterback, not a great quarterback.
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But there's only like four or five great quarterbacks in
the NFL. And you know five or six who are they?
Alan Lamar, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, and James Daniels is
on his way to be in the fifth one those
that's to them guys right there, six to fifteen, interchange
and move them around from year to year. They will change.
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That's the way it is. And Jalen Hurts is one
of those guys. And they keep, you know, they keep
screaming why he wanted his Super Bowl? He outplayed Mahomes. Great.
It's a team game. If you rank, like I told
those guys, if you rank that offensive unit one through
for the offensive units one through four, offensive line would
be one, take one, Barkley would be two, the receiving
group would be three, and Jalen Hurts would be four.
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So I guess that makes him the weak link of
the offense then, right. I mean, that's the reality of it.
He's a good player, not a great player. I stand
by what I said. I will not back away from it.
And there are other guys in this league that I
would take for the next five years. Just like I stated,
would you take.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Aaron Rodgers over Jalen Hurts if you were the Eagles.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
For tomorrow afternoon or for.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
For next season? Next season, if you could get Aaron
Rodgers and your Philly would you take It's just a
hypothetical because I just want to see where your mind
is right now.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Probably not no, But there are a lot of other
guys I would take before him, though, you know, I
just just because how many guys would have won the
Super Bowl with the phillip That's the other question. Would
Aaron Rodgers have won the Super Bowl with the Philadelphia
Eagles the way they play?
Speaker 6 (28:10):
Probably?
Speaker 4 (28:11):
I think that's a hard one.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
But that's just it because he had.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Personnel in New York. But I think there's a bigger
issue in New York other than outside.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Of get a terrible offensive line in New York and
and look, when you have an offensive line like that,
the running game like that, the receivers like that, you know,
it makes the offense so much easier for whoever's playing quarterback.
And that's that's not to say that Jalen Hurts isn't
a good player, but to think he's one of the
elite of the elite of the NFL. That's there's no
way he's up there with those top guys. There's no
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way he just isn't. And in one radio interview, the
guy said, oh, well, look, Josh Allen never beats Mahomes.
So there's not a general manager in the NFL that
would take Jalen Hurts over Josh Allen, including Howie Roseman.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
By the way, you don't feel like there's any intangibles there.
The reason why they're making it to the super Bowl.
I mean it falls at the feet of the coach
and the quarterback when the team wins and loses. Like
he's got to have more of a role than what
you're I think you're minimizing him a little bit.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
I'm not minimizing his role. I think I said he's
a good players, really yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
You can't just be a good play like there's a
few you can name that. Like, I don't feel like
Trent Dilferd was like a crazy good quarterback. I think
Brad Johnson was good, but I don't think he was
a crazy good quarterback. You know, I don't think he
was crazy good, but I thought he was good enough.
I just feel like you got to play a larger
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role than just being pretty good in order to go
to the Super Bowl, win one and make two appearances
in it. I just think that there there has to
be for the most important position. He's great at something.
He's got to be great at something, Pete, He's got
to be great at something. I mean, if we're looking
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I think he's got to be great at something like
great could be a blanket turn that's a blanket way
of looking at it. I think he's great at something.
There's there, and there may be more than one thing
that he's great at, but he's great at side. He
might not be great at some of the things that
you may pinpoint, but he's got to be great at something.
They've they've been successful.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Can I ask this question because I think you're referring
to Russell Wilson. Are you not there, LeVar, I'm talking
about Jaylen Hurts right now. Okay, but let me ask
about Russell. Would you agree Russell's Hall of Fame quarterback?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Pete?
Speaker 5 (30:32):
What that?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Would you agree Russell Wilson's a Hall of Fame quarterback?
Speaker 5 (30:36):
I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
I mean for a guy who's been like ten Pro
Bowls and won a Super Bowl, he's not getting in.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Well, we got a guy. We got a guy in
New York who won two Super Bowls and is in
top ten and touchdown passes in passing the yards, and
he didn't get.
Speaker 4 (30:52):
In first ballot. He didn't get in first ballot.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
He might not spell it.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
He's probably going to get in, Pete, I mean, there's okay.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
What the fameou is right now? I'm not sure the
way the Hall of Fame voting is right now. I
don't know if he is going to get it.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
I knew it, Okay, Pete.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
What if I told you though Russell Wilson has been
the ten Pro Bowls and he only went to four
Pro Bowls?
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Is it the fans vote for Pro Bowls? Give me
a break.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
It's players people too, so do the coach it plays
getting into the halday.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
What if I told you that Russell Wilson played on
the number one scoring had the team that had the
number one scoring defense four years in a row, and
the last team to do that was the fifties Dynasty Browns.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
What if I told you that that's and that's a
great stat The problem with that is about six of
his Pro Bowls.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Came after that.
Speaker 5 (31:39):
But what are you talking about? Ten Pro Bowls? Brady?
When did he he had three good years after the guy?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Are you trying to argue with facts?
Speaker 5 (31:47):
But I'm not went away after the legion of boom
went away. He had three good years and in fact,
he might have had one of his best year and
then it kind of went off.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
He went to six Super Bowls, Pete, like what you
tell you or Bulls Pro Bowls?
Speaker 5 (32:00):
When was the last time Russell Wilson was good? Dang?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
I mean it was pretty good this last season. I
was gonna say he stepped in for Pittsburgh, even though
you disagree with that. I don't think his last year
it was in Denver, was as bad as you make
it out to be. Twenty twenty was probably his last.
Speaker 5 (32:16):
How he was in that year, I.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Understand your your butt buddies with one of the guys
in the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Front office, twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Twenty twenty was his last high high watermark probably as
far as statistically speaking.
Speaker 5 (32:28):
Yes, I mean he has a chance to be in
the Hall of Fame. But I mean if he like
many getting in, he ain't getting in.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Eli Manning was not a first ballot, Like, we can't
make a big deal about Eli Manning not being a
He's not a first ballot Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
The way the Hall of Fame is structured right now,
I'm not sure he's going to get in.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Really, he's going. He's a two time MVP of the
Super Bowl. He's going, and he's a Manning. He's going
to get in. Pete Like, that's ridiculous. He's going to
get in. I think the better question here is is
like you're saying that you don't think that Russell Wilson
has the chance to get in. That Pro Bowls don't matter.
Pro Bowls matter, Bro. I'm gonna be the first one
to stand on that, and I'm gonna stand that, Yeah,
(33:10):
Pro Bowls matter. Don't say they don't matter. They do matter.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
They shouldn't matter because you see, okay.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Then they shouldn't have it. I don't think I don't
think an MVP of the League award should matter if
you don't have one defensive player up for it, at
least one player every year, But they do, and it matters.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
That matters when a guy drops that, when a guy
drops out and the fourth alternate goes.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
That shouldn't matter as much. That should not, but that's
always been stated, but that has. But but you already
have the distinction, Pete. If you're if you are the
first one voted in and you defer, that doesn't do
away with the award. That just meant that you didn't
want to play in the game. That doesn't diminishing being
voted a Pro Bowl.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
Fame.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Yes, yes, Philip Rivers has had a Hall of Fame
career because having success and doing it at a high
level for duration of time is generally you know, that's
what it's measured on. So while he didn't win a
Super Bowl, he had he had a prolific career as
a quarterback. I think Philip Rivers is a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
I would if Russell Wilson is a Hall of Famer,
Philip Rivers is a Hall of Famer, I would agree
with that.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
But I don't think that. I don't I have no
reservations of saying that that Philip Rivers had a Hall
of Fame career. I have no problem saying.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
That LaVar wants to fill the damn Hall up with quarterbacks,
doesn't he?
Speaker 4 (34:36):
I mean, no, I'm not I'm not saying fill the
Hall up with quarterbacks. I'm just saying, you know, if
we're saying who who has done enough to get into
the Hall of Fame, I think that those are two names.
Russell Wilson and Philip Rivers are two names that you
could mention and say they deserve to be in the
Hall of Fame. And Eli Manning you can add Eli
Manning's name to it as well. Maybe he didn't have
(34:57):
the accolades in terms of the BI do you work
outside of the Super Bowls and the m v P.
But he nonetheless made made enough Pro Bowls, He made
enough Pro Bowls, and he is a two time m
VP of the Super Bowl. How many guys can say that?
Not many. That's another name, That's another name you could
(35:18):
throw in the conversation.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
Well, Pete, I.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Guess they're all. Guess they're all in.
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Pete, You're Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Repete, hold on, hold on, Pete, are you really not
going to give LeVar the sound?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
The siren is not going to.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Go off.
Speaker 5 (35:35):
The quarterback whisper.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
I am not a quarterback whisper, not a whisper quarterback
defender quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
And I still do what the hell happened to you?
I still do you know what happened that that changed you?
He changed you forever? Oh?
Speaker 4 (35:56):
No, Pete, You're you know what if I see you again?
I'm a thumb rest.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Just called Pete.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (36:09):
He is, Pete, He's odd ex at Prisco, CBS Pete Prisco,
always a good time, CBS Sports HQ Senior NFL columnists
for CBS Sports. Thanks Pete. We'll do it again next week.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
You got it, guys, Take care there he is?
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Uh it is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe
here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next, We're going
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Speaker 3 (36:34):
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(37:07):
time for this and for that we turn it over
to our executive producer Lee lap Well.
Speaker 7 (37:13):
Guys, I sent this over to you if you saw
it cosm Here in La Dodgers fans lined up all
the way down the block, filled up the arena. The
problem is, uh, they don't. They can't sell beer until
six am Pacific time. Game just ended five minutes before
six am, So unless you were pulling a little plastic
flask like.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Your boy here, you're kind of out of Look so
you're just staying there for for leftover.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
So what this was really near and dear to your heart,
wasn't it? We I noticed this?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yeah, what's the work not getting a drink before six am.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
That really hurts.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
That's a deal breaker.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
Lee, what's the workerround here, like, what would you recommend?
Because you know, I think they're doing it tomorrow morning
as well too.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
So Cosm is a beast though, man.
Speaker 7 (37:54):
Yeah, so if you guys used to go to Enough Experience, Yeah,
it looks awesome. It's gonna be looked great for for
March madness.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
That's goodnament.
Speaker 7 (38:03):
Sure, and uh yeah, you just put it in your
back pocket. Bring a little plastic one that you could
grab at your at your local convenience store.
Speaker 4 (38:10):
You're good to go. Load it up.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Load it up with one though, Well, whatever your poison is,
I mean, what would you recommend though?
Speaker 4 (38:19):
For a baseball game? I would say tequila.
Speaker 7 (38:21):
Tequila is your choice for baseball?
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Why is that?
Speaker 3 (38:24):
Lee?
Speaker 4 (38:25):
What? What what specific group is that connected to?
Speaker 5 (38:28):
Lee?
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Well?
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Doortiers do yers?
Speaker 6 (38:30):
You're gonna be you're gonna want some tequila with Oh
you act like they were just showing Cosm on the
local news here.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
And how should you say you should drink tequila for
a Dodgers game? Jonas Moss
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