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fist pumping. Yeah, okay, I thought you meant like a
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to be a hip thrust.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Of pole pump. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
Yeah, mister Stix was pole pumping last night on The
Pillow Man. It was yeah, yeah, Var's dog is he's
horned up? That dude feels like a freaking brick when
he gets in that mode.
Speaker 7 (01:23):
Damn.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
I pushed him like I'm thinking that he was going
to move. When I put I was like, cut it out.
I didn't budget him an inch, not an inch. I
went back down. Hey man, he's kind of BIG's kind
of big, he's kind of strong. It was kind of intimidating.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Five legs tough to push him over, and I mean
he was flexed up on that pillow, bru I felt
bad for that pillow skunk spreading with some blue shoe.
Huh maybe, damn.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
You know, his breath's just now starting to smell normal.
It's just now, Like I don't know how long ago
that was now, but he's just now. His breath is
just now starting. His mouth is just now starting to
spell normal. You're stupid, Come on, let's go. I didn't
say anything. It was a big pause conversation. I mean,
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there was a lot of pauses involved in that.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Go.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Can we get back to the conversation we were having
about this, because I do want to I do want
to play out a scenario for example for you, Like we're.
Speaker 8 (02:32):
Talking about the playoffs and conference.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
The playoffs, so the Lion's proposed not awarding division winners
an automatic home game the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
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Speaker 6 (03:00):
Good job, Yeah, there you go, damn good job.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
The funny thing is that's not about Lee. That's actually Jonas.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Jonas is a radio formatics freak, where like you have
to get it, you have to can't get in.
Speaker 5 (03:17):
Yeah, so.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
You're It's funny like because you and Pete Prisco would
actually agree on this, And it's interesting to me always
like when you have this conversation with people, because Jonas
and I have talked about this for years.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
No, no, hear me out.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Jonas and I have talked about this for years because
I've always said, if you really think about a playoff format,
all right, unless it's a series, it's usually not like
the best way of indicating like who's your ultimate champion, right, Like,
you have a season that goes on and you have
teams with the best record, and you could probably by
the end of the season say well, this team is
the best team in the NFL, and then you go
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through a playoffs in there, and there's all sorts of
different things that can happen in a sudden death, you know,
but the but that's that's how we award our champion,
right That's how we present the Super Bowl the Lombardi
Trophy at the end of the year. So then the
question becomes like, is the way we're doing it the
best way of doing it? Meaning, you know, we're able
to put together this seven team on each in each
conference playoff format, but let's look at how we do it.
(04:18):
You know, now we only give away one buy once.
At some point it'll be eight teams and each side
there won't be any buys. That's my assumption. But I
think that's where we're heading. But as of right now,
Detroit got the buy last year, Casey got the buyer
other side, and then you had Philadelphia played Green Bay.
So let's say, for example, because you know, Minnesota was
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what last year, were they fourteen and three?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
I think so yeah, was out there.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
They were because they lost obviously the end of the season,
but that game ultimately would have determined whether or not
they were able to win the division.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Win one seed, all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Three yep.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Okay, So they're fourteen and three and they're the five seed.
So meanwhile they play a Rams team that was ten
and seven. But when their division, by the way, the
NFC West was not a great division last year.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Right, I think we can all admit that.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
So four wins less, I mean, and this has been
as bad at times as Again, I go back to
the Seahawks the year that they got in I think
they were what seven to eight and one or something
like that. I mean, you could legitimately have an eight
to nine team win their division and a fourteen and
three team whose six wins better have to go on the.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Road or be at home. There have been teams that
have had better, way better records than teams that made
the playoffs and they were at home. I'm not disagreeing
with what you're saying, yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Because when you're saying like, well, we want to reward
the division, you are like in that case, think about it.
If you just did away with divisions like you're saying
an eight to nine team wouldn't get into the playoffs,
but because you have divisions, they if they win it,
they automatic get in. So to go back to the
last thing you had said, like like what's the reward.
Why should we just not get away, you know, get
(06:07):
get rid of divisions. Well, you're still rewarding teams for
winning their division. That they won their division, they get
automatic bid in the playoffs, they just don't automatically get a.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
Home playoff game.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
And I think what you should do, or what the
NFL should do, which makes the most senses if you
got two teams that are both sitting there, Let's just say,
for example, both division winners both ten and seven, but
one team won their division, one team didn't. The team
that won the division gets to be that higher seat
or gets the host of the playoff game. Like like
that's if they were going to square off. That's how
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you do it. And we have all this time breaking
scenarios within it anyway, right, Like that's how you know
oftentimes we'll get to that point. But the general point is,
like you had a matchup last year, or a team
who won four more games was not rewarded for that
with a home playoff game and playing in Minnesota. No
disrespect to Rams fans in LA, but playing in Minnesota
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is a lot different than playing in LA, Like that
is a true home field advantage. It's loud, it's tough
to play in there. That's that's a you know, twelfth
man you're gonna get on defense if you're the Vikings
defense is you're if you're Brian Flores and you've got
a complex, complex blitz scheme that Matt Stafford and Sean
McVay have to figure out communicate on the road versus
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at home, where it's it's not as difficult obviously to
communicate and get those adjustments made to handle what Flow
likes to do on defense in Minnesota. So that's all
I'm saying is it makes complete sense to me to
not give that automatic qualification to division winners that you're
gonna host a playoff game.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
No, like you should have to actually have a better record.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Look at the entire body of work, and we'll go
from there and spare me the argument too of like
the you know, we were the tougher strength to schedule.
There's thirty two teams, all right, There's not that many
it's in college football, we're you got over one hundred teams,
So it's the NFL like that that's not going to
really make a bigger case one way or another.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Yeah, I mean I understand what you're saying. I really do,
and it makes perfectly good sense. I just think that
when you're looking at when you're looking at dividing things up,
I divided it up into these divisions. This conference is
the NFC conference. These are the divisions within the conference.
Speaker 8 (08:23):
I don't you know.
Speaker 6 (08:25):
I look at it just very very simply. If you're
in the South, if you're in the East, if you're
in the West, if you're in the North, your task
is to win your division. You're part of the conference,
that's your task.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
And I just I get it.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
If this team over here ends up being these three
teams and this division over here end up being better
than four of the teams over here in this division,
and they should be rewarded for being better teams over
here in this division, I get it. But at the
end of the day, it's almost to me, it's like
it's like life like it's not Sometimes it's just not fair,
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But that's what it is. That's you're over here, this
is your division. You are a really really good team.
You got a really really good record, but you were
only the third best team record wise in your division. Like,
you're not going to the playoffs, sorry, because this team
over here they won their division. And to that point,
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because they won their division, where they're at, they should
get the spoils of winning their Division's that's how I
mean to me, whether it's fair or not. Now, unless
we're saying, okay, we're going to do a reshuffling or
reordering like we were talking about for the college football playoff,
unless we're talking about just reshuffling at all once you
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get to the playoffs, Okay, we have a conversation if
that's if we feel like that makes it more competitive, okay,
that's fine. But if we're just basing it off of
this is your division. You're in the South. You gotta
win the South. If you get out of the South,
then you are what you're You're getting a home game,
I mean, that's I mean, that's what you that's what
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you base your season off of.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
This is why.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Also, when the Chargers pushed for this in twenty twenty three,
it didn't get approved, and that the speculation is the
owners don't want to lose the home game revenue if
they want a division like so the Spoils you talk
about like they want that home game because they went
the revenue.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
It's like, and I can rearrange the divisions before there
are teams that are in different divisions than what they
were in before.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
Breakup.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
Then and the AFC Fourth break up, the NFC West
break it up, or the AFC West break it up.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
There were three matchups this year and Brady touched on
this that the worst team record wise got to host
that playoff team playoff game over a team that had
a better record, Like it just it doesn't seem fair.
I just well, Washington beat Tampa Bay, the Rams beat Minnesota,
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and then the Texans beat the Chargers. The Chargers should
have been hosting that playoff game, Commandos. They went on
to Tampa Bay. They won that game. They should have
been hosting.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
So the Rams beat Minnesota, but they you know again,
they were hosting.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
So two of the three kind of got the shaft.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
And by the way, that Seattle Seahawks team, and obviously
that place has as big of a home fit advantage
as anyone, probably next to the Chiefs Fans and Narrowhead
they had that. I'm pretty sure they won their wildcard game. Yeah,
and Lee can look that up. That was against New Orleans.
That was the year after I think New Orleans won
the Super Bowl. That was when Marshawn Lynch rattled off
that epic touchdown run.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And again I'm not saying that these teams shouldn't be
in Winning your division should be an automatic qualifier. Where again,
in a year where you're seven and eight, you're probably
not going to be a playoff team.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
And going back back.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Then, there was only six teams that were on each side,
so I would I'd be willing to imagine that they
weren't one of the top six teams with a seven
eight one record in the NFC at that point.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Now, the next question is do you believe this is
going to be changed? I don't because I think it's
the best round.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
I mean, I think you're I mean, the NFL should,
they should, but they won't. And it's fine that they'll
continue to keep, you know, doing.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
This for a division winners and crap.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
But like these are the small tweaks that I wonder,
like ten twenty years down the road, when you look
at the NFL where they're at, if we'll ever look
back at a certain point and say, yeah, that was
kind of the bubble. That was when the NFL was
at its peak. They just didn't seem to want to
innovate with, you know, replay technology. They didn't seem to
want to, you know, make subtle adjustments here and there.
(12:53):
And I'm not saying like baseball will come back and
take over, or even the NBA for that matter, because
they're dwindling. But I do wonder if they'll ever come
a point in time where I don't know, maybe it's
college football, like maybe it's a different version of football
that ends up coming and overtaking them, because and again
that's a lot of ground to cover.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
The NFL is so much, so far superior to everyone else.
But I do wonder.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I mean, if you go back through like a baseball
was America's pastime for a reason, we can go back
and talk.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
About why that was and what changed.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
But I do wonder if they'll become a certain point
in time in the future we'll look back and we'll
say like, yeah, they probably should have done a few
things here. They're different, and maybe the NFL wouldn't be
in this position.
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Speaker 7 (15:57):
Happy Turny Day?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
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Speaker 5 (16:03):
Oh stop. You know, if Ohio State was in it,
you'd be all, let's go boy.
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But you know, I yeah, I mean I I can't
name more than three or four guys on Ohio State's
team either.
Speaker 9 (16:15):
Crazy really no, I just like I don't know why,
but like over the last like five six, I'm just
and I'm sure over the next couple of days, I'll
watch a bunch, you know what I mean. But it's
maybe it's like the the lack of storylines or the
lack of NBA guys in it, but it's just it's
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gotten harder for me to to really lock in.
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Bro, I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna give it my
best shot today.
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if I could walk in a little bit.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
So you're not gonna be uh licking the lid, so
to speak, taking in the first day of attorney or no.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
I wish I still could.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I used to love that part of it, for sure.
I actually have a bachelor party over.
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I think it was, you know, the.
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First weekend of the tournament in thirteen and.
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We we all went to Austin for that, So that
was fantastic.
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I used to I used to love.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
I used to love colling to the.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Ball on on Thursday and Friday attorney weeks. But uh,
well the first weekend of the attorney But but yeah,
those days are those those days are in the past.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Yeah, all right, So where do we now? Where do listen?
You know, we're all we're all there. Where do we
stand on the Aaron Rodgers front? Because there's been a
lot of reports, a lot of conflicting reports. Uh, he's
gonna wait patiently, Maybe he wants to play, maybe he doesn't.
Maybe the door is still open to Minnesota. What can
you tell us from your vantage point?
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, I mean, I think like the the interest in
Minnesota I think was sort of more of a two
way thing than it was, you know, one side pursuing
the other, you know, in other words, like the Steelers
and Giants are pursuing Aaron Rodgers. I think, you know,
like there was sort of a mutual curiosity, you know,
with the Minnesota thing when the Biking is struck out
(18:04):
on keeping Sam Donald or Daniel Jones, and it is
something that they very seriously discussed, you know. And and
I think a part of this, of course, is where
they're at with JJ McCarthy right now. And you know,
we've talked about that over the last two weeks. We
don't have to go over every detail, but you know,
he did lose weight, he lost four months of development time.
Now he's getting himself back to to his fighting weight.
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But you know, they've they've got a fourteen win team
and they've got veterans in that locker room, and you know,
I think for the guys in charge there, it's about
giving the team the best shot they possibly can to
win at the highest level as a quarterback position. This
is not a rebuilding team that can think a year
into quarterback development. You know, so you know, the Vikings ultimately,
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I think, make this decision to do what they did
because you know, Donald or Jones, I think you would
have at least had legitimate competition, like Donald probably comes in,
comes back as a starter.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
But there's a.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Scenario in that, you know, and and there's a scenario
there where McCarthy beats him out maybe the middle of
the year, and Jones comes back as in a competition
for the job with McCarthy. If you're bringing Rogers in,
it's in a completely different context where you're jamming the
pods button on the.
Speaker 7 (19:24):
JJ McCarthy era. What sort of effect does that have
on JJ? How does he take that? Like?
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Where does where does that leave the Vikings in their
young quarterback? I think that's sort of why in the end.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
Yeah, they made the decision at least for now to.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Go forward with JJ because it was different than the
Donald situation. It was different than the Jones situation. But
I still think they're going to add a viable veteran
quarterback there. And that leaves that leaves Aaron Rodgers with
three options. Now it's it's the Steelers, it's the Giants,
or it's retirement.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Well, you I was just going to say, what do
you mean by what what's your interpretation of I'm saying
for now, like are they expecting him to just stay
on the free agency block?
Speaker 5 (20:07):
I mean if he did?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
I mean, like so all right, like let's say, if
you want to gain this out LeVar, Like, let's just
say Aaron decides he's going to do it. Far did
right like where if you remember, like farv, let the
whole thing play out forever, right like and and and
I I can remember that, like what that was? What
what that was like for those few summers where it
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was he is he coming back? Is he not? You know?
So like if if Aaron decides, like you know what,
like I'm not ready to make a decision right now,
I'm going to make a decision in June, well, then
you know, in that scenario, the Vikings would have a
chance to get JJ McCarthy in for their off season program,
see him in OTAs, get a sense for where he's at,
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and then if it doesn't look good, they could turn
around and go and get good you know, go and
and and press that. But obviously, if he's obviously if
he's off the market, that's that's not on the table anymore.
So That's what I mean when I say like for now,
Like if Aaron for some reason made the decision that
he was going to just hang out on the market
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for the next three months, you know, things can materially
change over the course of time.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
And if it's not Rogers, I mean, I feel like
Pittsburgh is the one that's in a really interesting spot
because I mean, Russell Wilson's.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
The next guy.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
But do they they think I can I mean the
toothpastes out of there? I mean, I don't know, is
he well, don't give me the Mason Rudolph stuff like there?
Who is it Joe Flacco?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Then? Like I mean, is like I'm I'm being serious.
Here's like, is Joe Flacco?
Speaker 7 (21:43):
You know about?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Joe Flacco is the one that's the most interesting a
because he's been obviously won a super Bowl in Baltimore.
He did he took the Browns of the playoffs. Why
not go ahead and hit the third team and he'd
be a great fit. I think for what they probably
want to do. It's just like, is that gonna work?
Like if you're Mike Tomlin, because it feels like with
the moves they're making this offseason this is kind of
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an all in year? Is that the direction you want
to go? Like, is Joe Flacco at this age now
better than Brussel Wilson.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
I mean, I don't know. I like, you're the quarterback.
You can answer that, Like, what do you think?
Speaker 5 (22:20):
I really don't think there's a drastic difference between the two.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I mean, I know Russell Wilson's play teetered off at
the end of the season, but from you know, watching
Flaca with the Colts and granted they don't have as
much as I think now the Steelers do, I don't know,
it kind of feels like a bit of a wash
a little bit.
Speaker 7 (22:36):
Yeah, I mean, but I think you have to like
remember too, like how that didn't end.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Great between Wilson and the Steelers, And there was stuff
that came out during Super Bowl Week that like, I
mean like, look like we can we can tell where
that was coming from about the way that it ended
right like and so like if you are, if you're
the Steelers, do you look at that and say, you know, no,
we don't want to introduce that like and have that
history coming into our coming back here, like we better,
(23:03):
we'd be better off just you know, like going on
the low drama route and bringing in Joe Blacko. I mean,
I like, it's just it's just an idea. But I mean,
I I think, like I think what you say, what
you're saying Bill Brady is correct, which is they have
set themselves up now where they are all in, you know,
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and and look, I think like for for the most part,
like if you look at the roster, they really could
have gone one or two one or two ways this offseason.
Like I think there was a scenario you could look
at there and say, are they ever going to be
are they going to be good enough at quarterbacks? Fast
enough to be able to maximize TJ. Watt at thirty one,
Minka Fitzpatrick at twenty nine, What they've got with Cam Haywood,
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what he's got left right like some of these core
guys there, or is this the time for them to
rip the band aid off?
Speaker 7 (23:54):
Right?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Like? And so because and and by trading for DK Metcalf,
they sort of doubled down on being all in, right
because he's a third contract guy who's been beat up
as well. So like, you know, now, I think what
you're offering Aaron Rodgers is like, you're coming in here
and we're not asking you to list everybody up the
way the Jets did and the way the Giants.
Speaker 7 (24:15):
Are sort of asking you to do it.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
With the franchise that's been down for a while, you're
jumping on a moving train here, and we can offer
you the opportunity to come and play with a bunch
of guys. We're in the same situation you are, where
it could be over soon for them as well, and
so like we're going to be all in on you
the same way we're all in on TJ. Watt and
Making Fitzpatrick and Cam Hayward and let's go after it.
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You know, I think that's why by Aaron Rodgers, I
think that's why it matches up, you know, Aaron Rodgers
and the Steelers, and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
He is Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 10 (24:49):
AB.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Where do we stand on the Trey Hendrickson conversation? Obviously
the Bengals got the receiver deals done. Are they going
to be able to go three for three this offseason?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah? It's interesting because like I, you know, I think
with every day that it doesn't happen, you get like
new deals that sort of can change the context. Obviously,
Miles Scare is gonna have an effect on it because
he plays the same position now Trey Anderson Isn't Miles
Scare not saying that, but like just having a guy
at that position lifts the ball, raise the bar, I
think has an effect on it, you know. And then
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you know Daniel Hunter doing his one year extension that
has an effect on it as well. You know Daniel
Hunter coming in it just over what what Max Crosby got,
Like that's going to have an effect on it too.
So like I think if you look at the totality
of it, you look at you know, where where where
where they're at, Like it's it's going to be on
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the Bengals to do what they did with t Higgins
and and and Jamar Chase, and they broke some precedents
and doing those deals, and they broke some other policies
about guaranteeing future years. You're gonna have to if you're
the Bengals, go to a bigger number and you know,
give him the market correction that he's been asking for
for a while, and you're probably gonna.
Speaker 7 (26:04):
Have to guarantee a lot of it.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Too, and you know, again this is sort of the
last piece of the puzzle for them, you know, and
that they you know, this was what.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
Joe Burrow asked for.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
And the guys that he mentioned by name, there were
four of them that was it was Chase Higgins, Kasicki,
and Hendrickson. Hendrickson is the last one that's not signed,
and he's also the oldest of the of the group.
So we'll see what they do. It's it's a complicated
situation because this has been ongoing for a couple.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
Of years for them.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Albert, want to ask you about some of the rule
changes as we were kind of discussing earlier. I mean,
the Towitch push thing, I don't I don't know if
there's a ton of people pushing forward outside of Green Bay.
I mean, maybe you can get us, give us a
better sense for some of the teams that are flying
under the radar, who are like, yes, through.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Those guys, we want to get us out of the league.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
But also we talked about the Detroit Lions proposal to
do away with division winners.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
Hosting home playoff games. We kind of talked about this year.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
To two thirds of the teams that were in that situation,
who had better overall records, but they had a team
with a lesser record hosting, you know, lost and then
who knows how that would have worked out otherwise. So
I guess on that front, with those two specific rules,
do you see any potential chance that changes.
Speaker 9 (27:28):
The touch push?
Speaker 2 (27:29):
I'd say no, Like I actually like me personally, I don't.
I don't like the rule change because I like it'ld
be one thing if like everybody was doing it, you
know what I mean, and put a cheat code for everybody.
I just don't love the idea. And I think we've
talked about this in the show, right Like, I don't.
I don't love the idea of changing a rule just
because one team's really good at it, you know, at
this one thing. It just it feels to me like
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kind of non competitive, I don't know, you know. And
then the second thing, like you know, the Lions proposal.
I I I also think that that's probably unlikely, but
it could be one of those things where you start
the discussion now and the rule changes two years from now.
I will say, one thing that the owners really like
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is the idea that that pass to having a home
playoff game is in front of them at the start
of every season, and like, it's not complicated. You win
your division, you get a home playoff game, you know,
and so you know, can.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
I uncomplicated for you? Can I uncomplicated for you?
Speaker 7 (28:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
So obviously outside of the by the next three highest
you know, best win total teams they host Like like
you winning a division should you should automatically qualify you
for the playoffs, especially in the year.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Where you can have an eight to nine team that
makes it in.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
But if you're playing like a fourteen and three team,
it's just it's ridiculous to me that scenario and I and.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
That fourteen and three team wind up losing, right like
they lost the Vikings lost to the Rams last year
on the Fires. But yeah, like here and you could
argue very easily argue that the Vikings very much earned
the right to host the playoff game with how they
played all year. You know.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
The flip side of that of that is because.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Of the schedule inequities, you know, And this is one
thing that I think is I think this is a
fair argument. The scheduling for formula for people who don't know,
is done by division and so like, really the app
the closest thing to apples to apples when it comes
to scheduling are the other teams in your division. They're
the ones that are playing closest to the same schedule
as you. So a team in the NFC East isn't
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playing in the same sort of you know, under the
same sort of context as a team in the NFC West.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
So, like the argument would go, well, you know, if one.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Team had a really tough draw one year, and the
champion of that division has, you know, too fewer wins
than a wildcard in another division, but had a much
tougher schedule, well then there should be a bonus for that,
you know, But.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Can we make the same argument about weaker I mean,
look at both AFC NFC South, and usually those teams,
especially if they finish with a poor record, they're supposed
to at least have an easier record the next season.
Usually you're penalized for how well you do the following
season with the schedulers.
Speaker 7 (30:18):
And that's and that's fair. But because of like, because
of the way that the schedule works.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Like I'm talking about playing you play the whole division,
you know what i mean. Like, so, like I don't
know like, so I will the toughest division football maybe
the AFC North right now, right, Like the AFT North
is a really difficult division. So if you're in the
NFC South and you have to play the AFC North
and then say you have to play the NFC West, right, well,
that's tougher than maybe somebody who has to play both
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East divisions, right, Like so like that that that's how
much that what percent of your schedule is that? That's
that's eight games, you know what I mean, that's almost
half your schedule is in that context, in a much
tougher context than maybe somebody else is playing in So
that would be the argument.
Speaker 7 (31:01):
You know, And again I think there I get that.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
You still have six games versus easier opponents.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
Right, could you make it? Could you make it? Could
you make it? But could you make it? Like where
I don't know if a team is two games or
three games? That are where it gets ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Could you make a provision for that? Like like, I
don't know the answer to this, but because of the
scheduling and equity, I think it does make it a
little bit more difficult to.
Speaker 7 (31:26):
Have a cut and dry answer.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
And again, like I I'm just telling you like and
the owners they love their money, right, they love the gate,
they love having home playoff games, and I think that
that easy path to the home playoff games, I think
a lot of owners want to hold onto that.
Speaker 8 (31:41):
Abe.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
I got one last question for you this this whole
quarterback thing. Shadoor and Ward cam are pretty much, you know,
have identical stat lines from this this season, and they've
been looked at as the top guys, and then Dart
is thrown in there as the third guy. I look
at the you know, it's pro pro day season and
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and we're obviously seeing that that mill Row ran an
amazing forty time. Is there the chance that that a
guy like Jaylen Milroe can you know, have a performance
at his pro day that puts him in the conversation
to add one more to the three that are being discussed,
Is there any chance for him to be able to
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gain ground on those that are considered to be the
three main prospects at quarterback?
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I mean yeah, I think like running the forty, which
was actually like in the midst four fours, I mean
that the two schools always put out like faster times.
It was I that I talked to four teams that
had him, I think three of them had him at
four four five, which is still.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
That's still yeah, that's fair fat.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Like for a quarterback on the two hundred and sixteen pounds.
Speaker 7 (32:52):
I think this is going to come down to fit.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
And I actually think like that really is the case
for you know, the quarterbacks outside.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
Of cam Ward.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Like cam Ward, there's just feeling there where like I
think you look at it, you know, I think most
teams would look at him and say like, Okay, we
can develop him into something.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
Whereas with I think that the next group.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Of guys who's all going to come down to fit.
That goes for Shador, that goes come that, that that
goes for Dart, and that goes for for Jalen Milroe.
And you know, I would go back to the example
of the guy that he's compared to the most, which
is Jalen Hurts. Right Like, there were a lot of teams,
you know, five years ago that looked at Jalen Hurts
and said he shouldn't go in the first two days
of the draft, like he's a Day three guys. But
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the Eagles saw a guy who was a really good
fit for for for what they wanted to do and
identified you know, him as a guy who was going
to work to get better and had gotten better going
from Alabama to Oklahoma and and just saw something other
teams didn't and took him in the second round. And
you know, two months ago he won.
Speaker 7 (33:52):
The Super Bowl. So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I I think, like I think with a guy like
Melroe is going to come down to fit, which I
I think is the case with a lot of quarterbacks
in this year's class.
Speaker 7 (34:02):
So he's not alone in that.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
But I think it's going to take somebody having a
vision for him, the same way the Eagles had a
vision for Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Get him on x at. Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter,
Lead content strategist at the MMQB, Amazon NFL on Prime
Insider ab enjoy the tournament, Enjoy the weekend. We'll do
it again next week.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
All right, thanks guys.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
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Speaker 1 (34:27):
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Speaker 4 (34:50):
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Speaker 3 (34:59):
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We'll be able to know potentially whose bracket is busted
at that point, so that'll be that'll be a fun talk.
Speaker 7 (35:43):
Then.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
Right now, though we close up shop with this.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
These might smell a little fun case.
Speaker 7 (35:49):
What is that? Sounds incredible?
Speaker 3 (35:50):
But they're still good.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
Time to find out what's left?
Speaker 4 (35:55):
It's Lee's left, Joe, all right, d lap, what do
we got? Well?
Speaker 10 (35:59):
On top of it being tip off to the tournament,
it's also Spring Equinox or the vernal equinox, first day
of spring, so enjoy the cherry blossoms in DC, the festivities,
all that good stuff. It's only going to get warmer
from here. Sweet yes, good times ahead. Get that barbecue ready, guys,
EA Sports, I know we were talking about playing some
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football with the kids on the on the games. EA
Sports is now going to raise the amount they were
paying players from nine hundred dollars to fifteen hundred dollars.
It's one hundred and fifty percent increase. Oh no, nine
hundred dollars from six hundred and fifteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 8 (36:32):
Good job on them.
Speaker 10 (36:34):
They made over five hundred million dollars in sales last year, twenty.
Speaker 8 (36:37):
One million of that is going to nil payments.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
To the place say that, say that again, they may
how much five hundred million, how much is going towards
the players?
Speaker 8 (36:46):
Twenty one million?
Speaker 4 (36:48):
It's a fair spirit. Jeez, well, I don't want to
get took greedy bar.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Here's the problem is, and this is a window into
collective bargaining agreements with a mass of student athletes like
this and whoever it may be. Like, it's kind of
what concerns me about as things move closer to more
of a professional model. It's like, who's negotiating.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
On their behalf? Because this is the sort of thing
that's that's happened with the NFLP.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I know there's a lot of guys who want to
disagree with that, but there's been a lot of things
that were clawed back and we're trying to make our
way back now. And for college players, like, is there
someone who's going to be able to advocate for them
and negotiate for them to get them a more fair deal.
So you don't hear a number like this and you
don't go, wait, wait a second, aren't the players the
one that make the game? Like otherwise, what are we
(37:41):
doing here and they're only getting twenty one mili off that, Like,
where's the rest of the money going?
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Stop being so suld?
Speaker 6 (37:48):
What does twenty one million represent to five hundred? What
what percentage is that.
Speaker 8 (37:54):
I'm looking for? I think we think it was like
one point five or two percent.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
Well that's not right now, right, I mean we're just
gonna laugh at.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Is it that small?
Speaker 6 (38:06):
It's four percent? Yeah, yeah, that's a bottle. Right, that's better.
I mean it's not better, but that is ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
All right, let's go to that.
Speaker 6 (38:15):
I don't even want to touch on it. I've been
touch on that one Saturday though, But go ahead.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Let's let's Saturday.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
Let's keep going.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
What's Saturday?
Speaker 6 (38:22):
That's what I talk s o S. I keep it,
I keep it above board. On during the week, I
take my gloves off. Come on, I might bring you
on for that one too, Q. Come on, what you got?
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Well?
Speaker 10 (38:34):
Some Masters news Masters around the corner. Scheffler's unveiled his
dinner menu for the Master's Dinner, which is not any
different from what it was in twenty twenty three, pretty
much the same thing. Cheeseberger Sliders, fire Cracker, shrimp, Texas
raby steak unless you want some red fish and.
Speaker 8 (38:50):
A chocolate chin cookie. So good job on, Scottie Schffler.
Speaker 10 (38:53):
Other masters news, though, is an ex AUGUSTA National employee
is gonna serve one year in prison for stealing a
bunch of green jackets. He's gonna also have to cough
up three million dollars in restitution fees.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
Oh wow, man dang, I mean three million? Whose green
jackets were they?
Speaker 8 (39:17):
Arnold, Palmer, Ben Hogan and Jeans.
Speaker 10 (39:20):
I'm not sure how to pronounced. They get them back?
They did confiscate them. Yeah, so it was a whole.
Speaker 8 (39:25):
He's got to pay three million dollars.
Speaker 6 (39:28):
Because he was selling them. But did they get them
all back? Doesn't say here in this article. If they
got he must have sold them and for them to
come back, it's say three million.
Speaker 8 (39:39):
He was selling a whole bunch of memorabilia t shirts
Speaker 6 (39:42):
And mugs, tickets, You scumbag, damn enjoy your year sitting
down