April 21, 2025 • 39 mins
It’s Draft Week and the guys have the latest odds. Big Dom gets his props for scouting Draft prospects. Puka Nacua throws shade by telling Brock Purdy to take less money. Plus, Lee’s Leftovers.
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Var Var Var Var Thursday Night, First Round NFL Draft, LaVar, LeVar, LaVar, LaVar.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
I mean Jonas Jonas, Jonas Jonas will be there. Who
are they gonna pick? Who are they gonna pick? Who
are you gonna pick? We don't know. Will it matter?
We Will it change anything?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Probably not.
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Speaker 4 (01:22):
That is right. It is Draft week.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Everybody embarking on Green May, Wisconsin to take in the draft.
See if there's anything left over from the rubber ducky
klaw machine that lead to Lap and his cohorts that
ran through when he was out there during the course
of the season. Yeah, the guys who offered their place.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Up to us, they're their culture. I don't know their
meth lab whatever. Everybody's the way. Well, yeah, crook, you
gotta have cruts.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Yeah, yeah, it's the trailer of all the uh, all
that stuff inside of it. But yeah, so it is
Draft week. Here feels like a foregone conclusion. Cam Ward's
going to go one. We've got Travis Hunter going to
Abdul Carter three, and then you just kind of see
what the Patriots do after that. There was an interesting
(02:18):
little shift that I did see that it's been basically
a two team race for who's going to draft Ashton genty.
The Raiders have been the favorite, the Bears have been second,
and now the Jacksonville Jaguars are in the mix. Running back.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
No, y'are not fans of ATN.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
It just hasn't It just hasn't been what it needs
to be last couple of years that great.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
He's been banged up that that's been one of the issues.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
And so I'm wondering, did Jalen Walker perform himself at
his pro date in two going to the New England Patriots.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
That's what I'm wondering. You think he did that much
of his pro day that it changed all that.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
It's possible. And here's the reason why I would think
it's possible is are you confirming the measurables of him,
like the way he looks physically along with the way
that he moves, and you're able to see it. It's
possible that they saw something. And how he performed in
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his drills not so much. I don't think so much
in his forties or his forty or is vertical or
anything like that. I think it was more so I
think a lot of people came away really really blown
away by his movement. And sometimes you don't necessarily get
a really fair opportunity to see maybe a guy like
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Jalen Walker in terms of what all he can do
movement wise within a game, and and then you get
into a practice or into a pro day, and and
now it's like Okay, this dude's ability to maneuver or
the things that you know, people are saying about Abdul
in terms of him grading out high because of what
they saw him do in the games with his bend.
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You saw some of that in Jalen Walker, when in
fact he won the buckets, which proves he's the you know,
he was the best, you know linebacker. But I think
that there are things that they may have seen that
that shows the same type of characteristics in the same
type of skill sets that people have been raving about
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over abdual Carter as well, and we know that that's
a big need for New England to get an edge.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
So I'm just curious.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I don't know that to be eaten, but I'm just
curious if he did maybe move up to being considered
at that posit that point that pick.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I believe there's conversation about taking at dual Carter at
three and the Patriots treading up so that there's that
room are starting to come out. I kind of threw
that out last week in talking about the New York
Giants and some their late quarterback workouts and the reasoning
behind that, and some of it being that maybe they
want to trade out of this where they feel like
Abdua Carter would be coveted. A team like New England's
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sting at four would love to have him.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I will say this about this edge class.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
It's interesting you bring up Jalen Walker because he's a
player that played off the ball, he could play on
the ball, and he's one of those players that it
kind of depends on how a team's going to view him,
where they feel like he fits in their scheme, because
this is actually a really loaded defensive end class. Now
there's a drop off in my opinion after Abdul as
far as that next group of guys. But that next
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group you kind of have a really interesting bunch. I mean,
Schmart Stewart is getting a lot of play and conversation
and about his physical tools and how he tests and
how he performs. Yet it doesn't really match up always
with the tape as far as the production. Michel Williams
looks the part. I mean, he's a guy that's going
to go I think a lot higher than people realize.
James Pierce is one of the most explosive. He's undersized,
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but the problem is that people are a little bit
worried about some of his off field stuff and his
demeanor that's been talked about a bit. Mike Green out
of Marshall's like an under the radar type prospect too.
Landon Jackson's interesting next, you know, skeleton out of out
of Texas and m I'm telling you this much, I
don't know what DraftKings has the over under at at
edge defenders in the first round.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
I will put it at.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Somewhe between five and a half six and a half.
I think that's where the over under would be five
and a half. I take the over six and a half.
I think it's close. I think there'll be a cutoff
there at some point. But I didn't even mention J. T.
Twoy Milau, who I think is in that conversation.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Yeah, you asked, and you shall receive. The over under
on DraftKings for total defensive lineman slash edges selected in
the first round is eight.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
And a half. Yeah, oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I mean, okay, there you go one way under what
it what it will probably be. Uh, it's a it's
a really big class and it's in need. You know,
the NFL usually they want to it's not just one anymore.
So there will be a lot of ends I think
coming off of the board, and Jalen Walker could be
thrown into that edge conversation depending on how a team
views them, you know, or even a defense that is
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a little more versatile with how they use their off
the wall linebackers, you know, putting those guys sometimes as
an edge defender to to rush the passer or in
passing situation. So that's one of the underlying like if
you're an NFL draft kind of geek or if you're
into that stuff like I am, that's one of the
things that I'm really looking forward to seeing is which
edge defenders go where, how teams kind of see them
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playing within their system. Because even the body type of
like Shamar Stewart who's six foot six almost three hundred pounds,
and then you look at a guy like James Pierce
who six five two forty three, like completely different body types.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
And then how they'll even be implemented and used.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
So lot a lot to dissect, a lot to to
in regards to the NFL Draft. But that's to me,
the problem is we're not hearing a lot about it,
Like there's not a ton of buzz about it. Besides
maybe us touching on this right now.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
And by the way, the over of eight and a
half that's at minus two to ten, that's the price
on that means.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I think one in doubt these teams are going to
start taking these edge defenders.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
So some impressive dudes. Man, I'm a big fan of Walker,
I'll say that, and believe do you believe in this theory? That?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And I felt like this because like I've been out
of the NFL now, my last year was twenty fourteen,
you know, in training camp with the Dolphins, and I
was training in South Florida probably starting in two thousand
and nine. I originally started like training the off season
Arizona in like seven o eight, but then in two
thousand and nine I started going to South Florida and
one of the things I noticed was a lot of.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Kids who had kind of that that build.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
That size and athleticism age, and especially some of the
coaches and some of those trainers you're around guys were
already preaching to those kids, like the guys who like
wanted to play receiver or tight end but like couldn't catch,
they didn't have endi coordination. Yeah, they're like preaching for
them or guys honestly who are who were like trying
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to play receiver because everyone wants touch the ball, right,
Like when you're young and you're you're used to playing
in spread systems or seven on seven, everyone wants to
touch the ball. But then when you see certain dudes,
you're like, hey, man, you ain't gonna be able to
catch a cold. So yeah, unless you work on this,
maybe you get better. But like you can go play
cornerback or a d N position, edge position, and you
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can make a lot of money. But I feel like
that trend kind of started like around that period of
time where I started seeing kids who then when they
were coming to the field to work out, they weren't
catching passes with you anymore. They were over working on
their their like edge rush drills or your dropbacks or whatever.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
No, you're right, I just think that there's still a
there's a uniqueness to being an edge rusher or even
being a multifaceted linebacker, and and and that I think
that thing is how how you're wired. You know, it's
it's it's one thing to be able to do it athletically.
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But I've always looked at like, if I call a
receiver a dog. Like that receiver is a dog, then
you're like that could translate to them being a guy
that does it on the defense side of the ball
if they don't have that kind of dog mentality to
be able to to, you know, get over there and
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and deal with what you have to deal with. I
would say it would be a hard proposition to say
that it's a trend where guys that are out there
trying to play offense and play receiver end up going
over and playing on the defense side of the ball. Now,
cornerback is different that that's that's you know, kind of
translates like you can you got to do different things,
and you got to learn different skill.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Sets to be able to do it.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
But a lot of the things that like a tight
end would do to get off of the ball, a
lot of the things that a tight end has to
do to block, and all those different things. Linebackers and
defensive ends have to do those things as well. And
and so like a pass rush is no different than
a pass release, a pass pattern release. And and then
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you got to understand, you know, what are your responsibilities
within doing that? Do you have a two way go
or you know, do you have to maintain contain Is
it an inside Is it because of a stunt that
you got to force yourself inside? But still a lot
of those things are based off of what other people
are doing, and that's the same thing conceptually that you
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would be doing as a tight end or.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
As a receiver.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
So yeah, it is more of a thing and the
specifications of training, like you see the things with like
Aaron Donald and Body and Max Crosby and Von Miller
and all that they do like a pass rush summit
these days. So it is a major it's a it's
a big piece of the puzzle anymore. And it is
(12:08):
certainly something that people specify on how they you know,
go about approaching their train and go doing it.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
You know, there's a chance because it's the Eagles, and
we mentioned, you know, some Georgia bulldogs.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
They got some pass rushers.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Oh yeah, and they're gonna you know, they would probably
be interested in the Georgia Bulldog despite whatever red flags
any prospect might have. And we did find out from
Howie Roseman what really the key job is for one
big dom, the pride of Penn State. I've asked a question,
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what does he actually do other than almost getting a
fight with you know, members of the forty nine ers
a year ago. And as we found out, he does
a little bit more than that. Apparently he's the guy
who identifies the issues with prospects.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
In the draft. This according to how he rose in
the GM.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
You do have objective criteria that we look at to
take players off our board. So it's very easy for
us to kind of get into individual arguments or make
excuses for guys based on subjective factors, and I think
that that's really hard to do. So for us, we
start with the with these basic principles of we will
(13:27):
not draft because of this, and when we get past
those guys, then we obviously have a process that we
go through that starts with Dom. I don't think there's
any doubt that he's the best in the National Football
League and in my opinion, really all of sports in
what he does, his ability to not only gather information,
but to have a feel for people, and then we
(13:50):
just have to make judgments, you know, in those situations,
those are a little bit more subjective, and that's based
on all the information that we get Big Dom.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I don't know adult Dom, but in college Don was
a cool dude. So if it's like connect his ability
to connect with people. I mean, Don was a cool dude.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Man.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I love that though at all, Hey, what do we
know about so and so? I'll have Don looking do it?
I mean it's domb you know, you got to have
a guy.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
I really wonder like what does he do? Like what
does he actually do security? Like, didn't he just start
off as security to Andy Reid? He's did security for Andy,
he's been there since ninety nine, did with the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
And it seems like it's kind of like now they've
brought his his workload or you know, what his responsibilities are.
But I mean, when you're I'll say this, when you're
the security for a team, you learn a lot about
personalities and a lot about the quirks and how people are.
(14:57):
And that is not reserved to just like a d
lineman or you know, a you know, a volatile type
of receiver or coin. It's everybody. And so as you learn,
as you learn how that all you know plays out,
you start to get a feel for if this guy
is a problem or if he's just someone who's just misunderstood.
(15:20):
There's a big difference. There's certainly a big difference. And
so to me, when you got a guy that you
know that, they're the ones that build the relationships with
the players, you know a lot of times, like I
know the people I was closest with to this day,
like Mike and uh dang, why am I blinking on
his name right now? But the security detail for our
(15:42):
team when I was playing in Washington, John John Bean, Uh,
those are your guys, Like I hit them for everything,
like everything, like whether it's parking on Sunday, whether it's
something going on, uh, you know, an event, whatever it
may be, little thing, you just hit him up and
you built that relationship and that rapport with them. So
(16:05):
I could see where how he's coming from in terms
of looking and depending on Dom to kind of get
a feel for, you know, those aspects of the characteristics
of a player.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Hey, we're thinking about taking so and so here. Hey, Dom,
yeh him, make a couple of calls.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Go check him out, Dom, go shake him down. It's great,
shake him down, Dom, How.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Does that work? What do you think he's doing behind
the scenes?
Speaker 1 (16:28):
They probably I don't know, Like I said, I don't
know adult Dom, And really I never really hung with
him all like that in college either like I was
seeing wah, he was like this big mother lover Bro.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
He was big as s and he'd be walking.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
He always had on some jeans. He always had on
some tims, always had some TEMs on. And he used
to have like literally like six seven eight nine T
shirts on, Like I'm not even exaggerating it, like six
seven eight nine T shirts.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
I'd be like, bro, why you got something T shirts on? Man?
Did he play sports? Apparently? They said he played ball.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I wasn't there when he was on when he tried
or whatever however it played out. I never saw him
on the field. I never saw him, but he did
say he wanted to play. Because I always be like, bro,
why don't you play? Why don't you come out and
try out? Like you're big brouh like and you look
strong like he was walking around and he'd always be
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like full of sweats. So I used to just think
that that was his like his workout deal, like to
wear all them T shirts and he always had tims on.
If you walk in Penn State's campus, like, bro, you're
walking MOUs to go to class and he walking with
these T shirts no matter how cold, no matter how hot.
He got his tims on, he got his boots on,
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and he's got his jeans and his eight shirt T shirts.
I mean that was that was Big Dom. But we
called him Big Dom. Like you just see him walking
like for me, I just see him walking like we stopped.
We talked this, that and the other. I was about it.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Now he's making calls. Get straight job security. There's there's
going to be Jonas. Why do you find this so funny?
I find this entertainment. It just there you.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
I don't know of anybody else who, like, who else
has this in the NFL?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Like everyone ever got security? Dude? But everyone does. Okay,
but they've got a guy.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
But they've got a guy who makes calls and finds out,
Hey who should we?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yes, everybody does. Everyone does. I just sat there told
you that I didn't know that was a thing.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
I didn't know they this applied to the draft either,
that was just game day operations.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
No, got someone that's the head of security that also
is going to work with local law enforcement, that's going
to work with other people who are able to do
background checks. I mean, honestly, there's like p I s.
These teams will hire to follow prospects to get a
sense for what they do on a day to day
basis in the preparation heading into the draft.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
The teams have pasted on Jalen Carter are going to
look back at that one and go, oh boy, kind
of screwed that up.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
It just depends, though.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
It all depends because it's just it's the environment that
they're in. It's the environment that they're in, and there's
a lot of play. It goes in the play.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
And to that point, if he goes on a team
that doesn't have as many former college teammates and a
different environment, is he going to handle himself the same way?
Who knows, but that, without a doubt plays a factor.
I think the other thing is for every Jalen Carter
you want to highlight, there's also players who.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Had a terrible REP and improved and.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yeah, it didn't walk out who they are, So you can,
you can make a light of it, but the reality
is Jonas like, there's a lot of guys who had.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
That REP and they owned up to that rep and
it did not help them at all. So and then
meanwhile there's other guys who are like.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Super super good dudes, try everything but they don't have
to have the talent, like just hoping they can get
a shot or an opportunity. That's the fun part about
the draft though, too, is there's some great stories to him, man.
I mean even I saw a clip with Daniel Jeremiah
talking to Brock Purdy about his draft evaluation of him,
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which I thought it was a little bit interesting. And
I know we're up against it and I know what we're
talking about next segment, But what was interesting about the
segment was everything Daniel Jeremiah said about Brock Purty.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
It was true back then.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Like all those things he the way he described him
as a prospect was like, that's really accurate. He just
happened to go as the last pick in the seventh
round and obviously landing with that environment, that situation, circumstance,
it's a lot of them to excel to the point
where he's going to be having a contract negotiation somewhere
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around two hundred million dollars potentially.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
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Speaker 4 (21:00):
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Speaker 5 (21:00):
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You made it a Bob Marley Monday. Huh okay, uh intentional,
but yes, okay, I'll take it. Do you have any
good songs?
Speaker 1 (21:37):
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around with Bob Man all around in my own.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
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Speaker 6 (23:15):
No?
Speaker 5 (23:17):
My do we have some pocket watching here? This is
Poka Nakua, the Rams wide receiver who was on the
Games with Names podcast with Julian Edelman and he was
asked about Rock Parties potential contract extension and what that
number could look like.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Let's take a listen. Is he gonna get a five?
I don't think, so, do you think he's gonna go
with a four? It's gonna start with a four? Yeah?
High four?
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Mm?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
No, I think mid for I think so. I mean,
I think if he does that, that'd be smart for
him and them.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
Yeah, I mean I think he's he seems like a
smart guy. I don't think he like there's still they
have a chance to still be in their window. And
I think if if he goes for a five, that
the window closes.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
So I'm confused. What I mean, is he there? GM?
I'm confused?
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Here, got go? Can you clear this up?
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Cute?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Give one of y'all, y'all clear this up?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
I mean, Jonas, why would they be talking about money
on this podcast with Juan Edelman?
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Like what?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
That's what The first question I'd bring to mind is
how do you get on that subject?
Speaker 4 (24:31):
And like, why are you asking.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
A player for an opposing a divisional opponent about another
quarterbacks contract negotiation?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Like the whole thing is kind of odd.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I mean, I guess it's interesting because now we're talking
about it because of what he said, But it's it's
interesting because you almost never hear other players talk about
a player should take less, Like at no point in
my experience around the NFL, or any player is any
player like ya, homie, you should take less like everyone's
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like no, man, take as much you can get, like get, oh,
you can while you're here. Man, you know what NFL
stands for and not for long, like you better take
everything you can get. That's usually how most players approach it,
and honestly a lot of other players look at that
perspective and they say, I understand it because it keeps
pushing the envelope for contracts. Like if you continually keep
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resetting the market at different positions, then allows other guys,
even if they are the best at their position, still
to make more money. Theoretically, it's one of the reasons
why when they slotted the NFL draft a rookie pool.
Once they started slotting those contracts, it actually limited how
fast these contracts could go up and resetting the market,
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and it really hurt the middle class because now you
either have rookies or you have guys who made it.
You don't have anything in between. And you used to
have guys that you know, they had a good season,
it was a Pro Bowl year, and they could sign
a contract that was going to be comparitive with whatever
that top five, top ten rookie quarterback contract, for example,
would have been, because the money was so big. We
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always use the Sam Bradford example of being the first
overall pick. He was gonna end up making fifty million
guarantee before he took a snap, and that upsets some people,
probably some owners too, because they felt like there was
a big risk in all of that. But it was
still good for the middle class players because they're like, well,
hold on a second, this guy's getting fifty million. I
actually just had a Pro Bowl season, or I just
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had a good season. I should be getting at least that, right.
So we've kind of gone down this whiny road now
of where we're looking at players and saying, ah, well,
maybe you should take a team discount. Like that's a
step backwards in my opinion. But maybe it's a little
like divisional warfare, you know, maybe bringing.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
It up Poka Nikua knows.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
This is a sore point for brockperty in the forty
nine ers, they see him twice a year, why not kind.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Of you know, started to create a little controversy about it.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
You know, keep pouring a little extra to see if
you can't draw up some more frustration.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I just don't understand why paying him more means the
window is closing for San Francisco, Like, is that is
he basically insinuating paying him more is closing the window
or doesn't mean that they're paying him because they feel
like the window is closing in terms of with the
roster that they have. I was just not clear on
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what that may have represented.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Like I don't know, I just always was taught, you know,
I don't know if rude is the right word.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
But if you don't have something nice to say, like.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Don't don't watch somebody else's pockets, like don't don't worry
about what somebody else is making or what they're going
to get or what their contract is like, and he's
out there like, oh yeah, well, if they do give
him that money, their windows closed, like tang, Wait, what
is he basically saying if they give him all the money,
you don't have any money to give anybody else.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
He don't have any quality players around Is that like
a lightweight? Is he shaved?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I Like, if you're if you're giving brock Party all
the money and you can't give quality players around him money,
then he's not going to be the brock party that
you paid him and the window is closed.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
It's is that the interpretation?
Speaker 5 (28:14):
It's like, I would just assume that like the bigger
the contracts get throughout the league, the better for everybody
would be mine would be my thought, because at some point,
Pooka the Coup is going to want to get paid too.
Like what if somebody said, oh, yeah, listen, you can't
give him that kind of money.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
He should he should take less, you know, if he's smarter,
build on around though.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Otherwise I mean the windows closing that they pay Pooking
the coup that money.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Yeahang right.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I mean have you ever heard a player ever say like,
oh no, dog, you should take less?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
He lightweight shaded him, man, I'm telling he shaded him
on that one. I'm not sure what what direction though,
I'm not sure where that's like, what is he basing
the shade off of? Is it he doesn't think he's
that good? Does he think that he's better if they
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had more players? Maybe he's setting that up for himself.
I mean, didn't his quarterback does get paid?
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:11):
I mean if he if it wasn't a question about
how good he was, then there would be no question
about what should he get Like there was no like
Joe Burrow was gonna get paid. He was going to
get paid, same with Josh Allen, Mahomes like all that.
Like the fact that there's a debate about brock Party
is like the debate about Dak Prescott, like, well, if
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you pay him, is he worth this much?
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Like what he's It's so it's so funny though too.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
And look again, I think what fascinates me about this
conversation is his first impressions are lasting. And every time
we look at Dak Prescott, you know, I probably had
he won a Super Bowl or we wouldn't be having
this conversation. But he hasn't gotten to that point. But
neither is Joe Burrow. He's gotten to one, hasn't won it.
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Josh Allen hasn't gotten to one, even though he's one
MVP now and he's had some really successful years in
the playoffs. Dak can't really say that quite as much.
So there's different levels to this, but we always kind
of come back to, Yeah, there's just something about Dak
that's just not as good as Josh Allen or Joe
Burrow or Lamar Jackson all guys who are first round picks.
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You know, Brock pretty same thing. And I've said this before,
Like I spoke to a guy last year. I guess
it would been two years ago, back when Sam Darnald
was on the roster in San fran and I said, hey,
I'm just curious, like how Donald looked, and he goes,
you would have not been able to tell that he
wasn't the starter based on just watching him throw, watch
him do everything and warm ups like he looks to
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be the better guy, like bigger strong arm, you know,
just as athletic, if not more so.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Now, that's not everything to the game.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
But when we come down to this contract situation, it's
why I always revert back to Okay, let's just say
that they wanted to trade brock Purtty, Like what would
be the trade bard market for brock Purty?
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Would it? Would it be that robust? It wouldn't be
anywhere close to the.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Same as Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson or Joe Burrow.
And that's what's interesting about this is, you know, is
brock Purty going to take that forty or forty five
million per year because he thinks that he wants to
build out the team out around him, or is there
also kind of some sort of realization that like, hey,
I'm not the same as those guys, like my intangibles
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and maybe my strengths are in different points. But maybe
it also has a lot to do with who I'm
playing with, the system I'm playing with, and forty nine
ers fans can get up upset with me saying that,
But I think right now, if you ask yourself, if
you could have Lamar Jacks instead of brock Purty, you
would Joe Burrow seat of Brockerty, you would Josh Allen,
but you would hands down, like there's there's no confusion.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
What's so about Trevor Lawrence. I would They would probably take.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Trevor Lawrence too, even though he's not as accomplished, because
I think you put brock Purty in Trevor Lawrence's situation,
that's an entirely different set of circumstances. I'm not sure
they're ever even a playoff team. I'm just saying just
raw talent ability, you can see a drastic difference, and
it's not something to hold against brock Purty, But in
these negotiations, that's kind of the hold up and I've
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said this before. Go look at Kyle Shanahan's track record.
This guy is one of the best to ever do
it as a offensive mine and play caller. He never
gets enough props. It didn't matter if it was RG
three or Kirk Cousins, two different systems, Ballin' Rookie of
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the Year. Kirk Cousins ends up becoming a franchise quarterback.
He goes down to Atlanta, Matt Ryan MVP season, gets
to a Super Bowl. What else in Matt Ryan's career
did he do that?
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Never? You go look at his time in Houston when.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
He first got you call in place and all that,
and then he goes out to San Francisco, the one
of the better offensive teams, and with the exceptions of
Trey Lance, every single quarterback has been able to operate
that system be pretty darn good. I mean, Jimmy Garoppolo
had had some you know, health issues, but it got
into a Super Bowl. I mean, think about that for
a second.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
I don't want it.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
It doesn't matter, man. They just it's a system that
is quarterback friendly and you will have the opportunity to
excel in And I do wonder if they say, well,
if it's if we found Brock pretty is mister relevant
in the seventh round, we can find someone else who would
come in.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
And do this too.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
I mean they did sign mac Jones too. I don't
want anything to happen to Brock party. I would love
to see Mac Jones turn Just see Mac Jones get
a shot to just sling it out there, turn off,
because that was the rumor right that Shanahan wanted mac Jones.
And it was John Lynch who wanted Trey Lance back
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when there was the rumblings about who they were going
to take there with the pick, and they ended up
going with Trey Lance and the rest is history. But well, listen, hey, Brock,
get paid what you can get paid. Don't worry about
what Pooka says.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Man.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I don't worry about no closing windows. You're open for business,
baby damn.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
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Speaker 3 (34:39):
Here he comes. This is his walkout music. Oh yeah,
if you did get the start again.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
Oh they got they got the the Trent Williams boombox
that he's bringing with him.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Yeah.
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Three o'clock Spacific.
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Speaker 4 (35:37):
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Speaker 2 (35:40):
These might smell a little fun, that sounds incredible, but
they're still good. Time to find out what's left. It's
Lee's right to laugh.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
What do we got?
Speaker 8 (35:51):
Well, you had mentioned it Jonas Clippers at Nuggets tonight,
as well as Pistons at Nicks in the NBA playoffs
if you're looking for something to watch the night, and.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Anyhow playoffs as well.
Speaker 8 (35:58):
I don't know if we've mentioned that today Canadians at
Capitals and Oilers at Kings their first games game ones,
and then we also have Blues at Jets and Avalanchet Stars.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
The Kings can't beat the Oilers, but the Houston Oilers
know the Edmonton. But if you believe the great Fred Rogan,
he claims it's going to be a different story. He's
a big King's blow hard. He he claims it's going
to be a different story because the Kings have home.
Isis time, according to him. So people listening on the blowtorch,
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just so you know, Fred called a shot. I know
if that's good or bad luck for anybody out there,
we'll call my shot.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
What's that she got? Blue Jackets are out of it.
I'm done.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
That's the Colt that's that Colt, you spin it.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
I didn't spend it that time. I was just ready
to go. Okay, yeah, I was ready to go. Fellas
we had mentioned it earlier.
Speaker 8 (37:02):
Rest in peace to Pope Francis, who passed away this
morning at the age of eighty eight. We got odds
though on the next Pope, you guys conclaim starts it's
fifteen days from now. Wait, yeah, yeah, well you know
this is the news. So Cardinal Pietro Perlyn is the
odds on favorite. He's the Secretary of State at the Vatican.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
What do you got on this? What do you check
out the favorite?
Speaker 8 (37:26):
Because he's the secretary of State at the Vatican, so
he's very high up in the ranks as is.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
You've been to the Vatican either, you too? You know, Lee,
I know you have. You're trying to get forgiven for all.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
The sins, But have you really Lee Leaves, Like, is
there a liquor store called the Vatican?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Have you been, Jonas? Have you been?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
No?
Speaker 4 (37:46):
I have not been to you. You got to go.
If you haven't been, you got to go. It is incredible.
I would do it. Yeah, do it for certain we
do a show from there. I'm not sure that's going
to happen, although the times it would be better for
you guys that's afternoon drive bottle scot in between Mass.
(38:08):
Probably damn. I've done Mass quite a few times. I've
done Communion online. Although one thing that bothered me is
you're not supposed to take photos and Assistine Chapel.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
And so many tourists do. It's like, dude, just stop,
You're not supposed to be doing this. Why do you
have to do this? Why do you have to ruin it?
I mean, it's incredible all the way around, but a
lot of people abusing some of that privilege to be
in there.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I love to check it out maybe one day. What's
the big cathedral or whatever in Barcelona? Is a Barcelona?
Speaker 4 (38:41):
There's one big Familia? Is that what it is? I've
been to that? Very beautiful? Do you know that?
Speaker 6 (38:46):
Lee?
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Antonio Galadi?
Speaker 8 (38:47):
These are the architects who does a lot of the
architecture around the Barcelona.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
How the hell would you know that? Lee? Just one
of the things I know. He's got random facts. Yeah,
have you been to Barcelona? Lee? I love Barcelon. Oh
you went on a bender, didn't you?
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Yeah, in the Park of Singouti's park.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yeahuti, I dislocated my pinky because I saw a very beautiful,
beautiful young lady topless, and I panicked and ran into
the water and dove into the water, the Black Sea,
and hit my finger off of it wasn't deep enough
where I dove, but I.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
That was the first time I was stand up.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I thought she was watching me, and yeah, there you go.
I had to get out of there. If that's all
I know, like this, Oh, I get out of here.
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I mean Jonas Jonas, Jonas Jonas will be there. Who
are they gonna pick? Who are they gonna pick? Who
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We Will it change anything?
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Probably not.
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Speaker 4 (01:22):
That is right. It is Draft week.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Everybody embarking on Green May, Wisconsin to take in the draft.
See if there's anything left over from the rubber ducky
klaw machine that lead to Lap and his cohorts that
ran through when he was out there during the course
of the season. Yeah, the guys who offered their place.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Up to us, they're their culture. I don't know their
meth lab whatever. Everybody's the way. Well, yeah, crook, you
gotta have cruts.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Yeah, yeah, it's the trailer of all the uh, all
that stuff inside of it. But yeah, so it is
Draft week. Here feels like a foregone conclusion. Cam Ward's
going to go one. We've got Travis Hunter going to
Abdul Carter three, and then you just kind of see
what the Patriots do after that. There was an interesting
(02:18):
little shift that I did see that it's been basically
a two team race for who's going to draft Ashton genty.
The Raiders have been the favorite, the Bears have been second,
and now the Jacksonville Jaguars are in the mix. Running back.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
No, y'are not fans of ATN.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
It just hasn't It just hasn't been what it needs
to be last couple of years that great.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
He's been banged up that that's been one of the issues.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
And so I'm wondering, did Jalen Walker perform himself at
his pro date in two going to the New England Patriots.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
That's what I'm wondering. You think he did that much
of his pro day that it changed all that.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
It's possible. And here's the reason why I would think
it's possible is are you confirming the measurables of him,
like the way he looks physically along with the way
that he moves, and you're able to see it. It's
possible that they saw something. And how he performed in
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his drills not so much. I don't think so much
in his forties or his forty or is vertical or
anything like that. I think it was more so I
think a lot of people came away really really blown
away by his movement. And sometimes you don't necessarily get
a really fair opportunity to see maybe a guy like
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Jalen Walker in terms of what all he can do
movement wise within a game, and and then you get
into a practice or into a pro day, and and
now it's like Okay, this dude's ability to maneuver or
the things that you know, people are saying about Abdul
in terms of him grading out high because of what
they saw him do in the games with his bend.
(04:17):
You saw some of that in Jalen Walker, when in
fact he won the buckets, which proves he's the you know,
he was the best, you know linebacker. But I think
that there are things that they may have seen that
that shows the same type of characteristics in the same
type of skill sets that people have been raving about
(04:38):
over abdual Carter as well, and we know that that's
a big need for New England to get an edge.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
So I'm just curious.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I don't know that to be eaten, but I'm just
curious if he did maybe move up to being considered
at that posit that point that pick.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I believe there's conversation about taking at dual Carter at
three and the Patriots treading up so that there's that
room are starting to come out. I kind of threw
that out last week in talking about the New York
Giants and some their late quarterback workouts and the reasoning
behind that, and some of it being that maybe they
want to trade out of this where they feel like
Abdua Carter would be coveted. A team like New England's
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sting at four would love to have him.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I will say this about this edge class.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
It's interesting you bring up Jalen Walker because he's a
player that played off the ball, he could play on
the ball, and he's one of those players that it
kind of depends on how a team's going to view him,
where they feel like he fits in their scheme, because
this is actually a really loaded defensive end class. Now
there's a drop off in my opinion after Abdul as
far as that next group of guys. But that next
(05:40):
group you kind of have a really interesting bunch. I mean,
Schmart Stewart is getting a lot of play and conversation
and about his physical tools and how he tests and
how he performs. Yet it doesn't really match up always
with the tape as far as the production. Michel Williams
looks the part. I mean, he's a guy that's going
to go I think a lot higher than people realize.
James Pierce is one of the most explosive. He's undersized,
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but the problem is that people are a little bit
worried about some of his off field stuff and his
demeanor that's been talked about a bit. Mike Green out
of Marshall's like an under the radar type prospect too.
Landon Jackson's interesting next, you know, skeleton out of out
of Texas and m I'm telling you this much, I
don't know what DraftKings has the over under at at
edge defenders in the first round.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
I will put it at.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Somewhe between five and a half six and a half.
I think that's where the over under would be five
and a half. I take the over six and a half.
I think it's close. I think there'll be a cutoff
there at some point. But I didn't even mention J. T.
Twoy Milau, who I think is in that conversation.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
Yeah, you asked, and you shall receive. The over under
on DraftKings for total defensive lineman slash edges selected in
the first round is eight.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
And a half. Yeah, oh my goodness.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
I mean, okay, there you go one way under what
it what it will probably be. Uh, it's a it's
a really big class and it's in need. You know,
the NFL usually they want to it's not just one anymore.
So there will be a lot of ends I think
coming off of the board, and Jalen Walker could be
thrown into that edge conversation depending on how a team
views them, you know, or even a defense that is
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a little more versatile with how they use their off
the wall linebackers, you know, putting those guys sometimes as
an edge defender to to rush the passer or in
passing situation. So that's one of the underlying like if
you're an NFL draft kind of geek or if you're
into that stuff like I am, that's one of the
things that I'm really looking forward to seeing is which
edge defenders go where, how teams kind of see them
(07:41):
playing within their system. Because even the body type of
like Shamar Stewart who's six foot six almost three hundred pounds,
and then you look at a guy like James Pierce
who six five two forty three, like completely different body types.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
And then how they'll even be implemented and used.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
So lot a lot to dissect, a lot to to
in regards to the NFL Draft. But that's to me,
the problem is we're not hearing a lot about it,
Like there's not a ton of buzz about it. Besides
maybe us touching on this right now.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
And by the way, the over of eight and a
half that's at minus two to ten, that's the price
on that means.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I think one in doubt these teams are going to
start taking these edge defenders.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
So some impressive dudes. Man, I'm a big fan of Walker,
I'll say that, and believe do you believe in this theory? That?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And I felt like this because like I've been out
of the NFL now, my last year was twenty fourteen,
you know, in training camp with the Dolphins, and I
was training in South Florida probably starting in two thousand
and nine. I originally started like training the off season
Arizona in like seven o eight, but then in two
thousand and nine I started going to South Florida and
one of the things I noticed was a lot of.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Kids who had kind of that that build.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
That size and athleticism age, and especially some of the
coaches and some of those trainers you're around guys were
already preaching to those kids, like the guys who like
wanted to play receiver or tight end but like couldn't catch,
they didn't have endi coordination. Yeah, they're like preaching for
them or guys honestly who are who were like trying
(09:17):
to play receiver because everyone wants touch the ball, right,
Like when you're young and you're you're used to playing
in spread systems or seven on seven, everyone wants to
touch the ball. But then when you see certain dudes,
you're like, hey, man, you ain't gonna be able to
catch a cold. So yeah, unless you work on this,
maybe you get better. But like you can go play
cornerback or a d N position, edge position, and you
(09:37):
can make a lot of money. But I feel like
that trend kind of started like around that period of
time where I started seeing kids who then when they
were coming to the field to work out, they weren't
catching passes with you anymore. They were over working on
their their like edge rush drills or your dropbacks or whatever.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
No, you're right, I just think that there's still a
there's a uniqueness to being an edge rusher or even
being a multifaceted linebacker, and and and that I think
that thing is how how you're wired. You know, it's
it's it's one thing to be able to do it athletically.
(10:18):
But I've always looked at like, if I call a
receiver a dog. Like that receiver is a dog, then
you're like that could translate to them being a guy
that does it on the defense side of the ball
if they don't have that kind of dog mentality to
be able to to, you know, get over there and
(10:39):
and deal with what you have to deal with. I
would say it would be a hard proposition to say
that it's a trend where guys that are out there
trying to play offense and play receiver end up going
over and playing on the defense side of the ball. Now,
cornerback is different that that's that's you know, kind of
translates like you can you got to do different things,
and you got to learn different skill.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Sets to be able to do it.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
But a lot of the things that like a tight
end would do to get off of the ball, a
lot of the things that a tight end has to
do to block, and all those different things. Linebackers and
defensive ends have to do those things as well. And
and so like a pass rush is no different than
a pass release, a pass pattern release. And and then
(11:22):
you got to understand, you know, what are your responsibilities
within doing that? Do you have a two way go
or you know, do you have to maintain contain Is
it an inside Is it because of a stunt that
you got to force yourself inside? But still a lot
of those things are based off of what other people
are doing, and that's the same thing conceptually that you
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would be doing as a tight end or.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
As a receiver.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
So yeah, it is more of a thing and the
specifications of training, like you see the things with like
Aaron Donald and Body and Max Crosby and Von Miller
and all that they do like a pass rush summit
these days. So it is a major it's a it's
a big piece of the puzzle anymore. And it is
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certainly something that people specify on how they you know,
go about approaching their train and go doing it.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
You know, there's a chance because it's the Eagles, and
we mentioned, you know, some Georgia bulldogs.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
They got some pass rushers.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Oh yeah, and they're gonna you know, they would probably
be interested in the Georgia Bulldog despite whatever red flags
any prospect might have. And we did find out from
Howie Roseman what really the key job is for one
big dom, the pride of Penn State. I've asked a question,
(12:46):
what does he actually do other than almost getting a
fight with you know, members of the forty nine ers
a year ago. And as we found out, he does
a little bit more than that. Apparently he's the guy
who identifies the issues with prospects.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
In the draft. This according to how he rose in
the GM.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
You do have objective criteria that we look at to
take players off our board. So it's very easy for
us to kind of get into individual arguments or make
excuses for guys based on subjective factors, and I think
that that's really hard to do. So for us, we
start with the with these basic principles of we will
(13:27):
not draft because of this, and when we get past
those guys, then we obviously have a process that we
go through that starts with Dom. I don't think there's
any doubt that he's the best in the National Football
League and in my opinion, really all of sports in
what he does, his ability to not only gather information,
but to have a feel for people, and then we
(13:50):
just have to make judgments, you know, in those situations,
those are a little bit more subjective, and that's based
on all the information that we get Big Dom.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
I don't know adult Dom, but in college Don was
a cool dude. So if it's like connect his ability
to connect with people. I mean, Don was a cool dude.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
Man.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I love that though at all, Hey, what do we
know about so and so? I'll have Don looking do it?
I mean it's domb you know, you got to have
a guy.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
I really wonder like what does he do? Like what
does he actually do security? Like, didn't he just start
off as security to Andy Reid? He's did security for Andy,
he's been there since ninety nine, did with the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
And it seems like it's kind of like now they've
brought his his workload or you know, what his responsibilities are.
But I mean, when you're I'll say this, when you're
the security for a team, you learn a lot about
personalities and a lot about the quirks and how people are.
(14:57):
And that is not reserved to just like a d
lineman or you know, a you know, a volatile type
of receiver or coin. It's everybody. And so as you learn,
as you learn how that all you know plays out,
you start to get a feel for if this guy
is a problem or if he's just someone who's just misunderstood.
(15:20):
There's a big difference. There's certainly a big difference. And
so to me, when you got a guy that you
know that, they're the ones that build the relationships with
the players, you know a lot of times, like I
know the people I was closest with to this day,
like Mike and uh dang, why am I blinking on
his name right now? But the security detail for our
(15:42):
team when I was playing in Washington, John John Bean, Uh,
those are your guys, Like I hit them for everything,
like everything, like whether it's parking on Sunday, whether it's
something going on, uh, you know, an event, whatever it
may be, little thing, you just hit him up and
you built that relationship and that rapport with them. So
(16:05):
I could see where how he's coming from in terms
of looking and depending on Dom to kind of get
a feel for, you know, those aspects of the characteristics
of a player.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Hey, we're thinking about taking so and so here. Hey, Dom,
yeh him, make a couple of calls.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Go check him out, Dom, go shake him down. It's great,
shake him down, Dom, How.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Does that work? What do you think he's doing behind
the scenes?
Speaker 1 (16:28):
They probably I don't know, Like I said, I don't
know adult Dom, And really I never really hung with
him all like that in college either like I was
seeing wah, he was like this big mother lover Bro.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
He was big as s and he'd be walking.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
He always had on some jeans. He always had on
some tims, always had some TEMs on. And he used
to have like literally like six seven eight nine T
shirts on, Like I'm not even exaggerating it, like six
seven eight nine T shirts.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
I'd be like, bro, why you got something T shirts on? Man?
Did he play sports? Apparently? They said he played ball.
I don't.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I wasn't there when he was on when he tried
or whatever however it played out. I never saw him
on the field. I never saw him, but he did
say he wanted to play. Because I always be like, bro,
why don't you play? Why don't you come out and
try out? Like you're big brouh like and you look
strong like he was walking around and he'd always be
(17:26):
like full of sweats. So I used to just think
that that was his like his workout deal, like to
wear all them T shirts and he always had tims on.
If you walk in Penn State's campus, like, bro, you're
walking MOUs to go to class and he walking with
these T shirts no matter how cold, no matter how hot.
He got his tims on, he got his boots on,
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and he's got his jeans and his eight shirt T shirts.
I mean that was that was Big Dom. But we
called him Big Dom. Like you just see him walking
like for me, I just see him walking like we stopped.
We talked this, that and the other. I was about it.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Now he's making calls. Get straight job security. There's there's
going to be Jonas. Why do you find this so funny?
I find this entertainment. It just there you.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
I don't know of anybody else who, like, who else
has this in the NFL?
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Like everyone ever got security? Dude? But everyone does. Okay,
but they've got a guy.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
But they've got a guy who makes calls and finds out,
Hey who should we?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yes, everybody does. Everyone does. I just sat there told
you that I didn't know that was a thing.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
I didn't know they this applied to the draft either,
that was just game day operations.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
No, got someone that's the head of security that also
is going to work with local law enforcement, that's going
to work with other people who are able to do
background checks. I mean, honestly, there's like p I s.
These teams will hire to follow prospects to get a
sense for what they do on a day to day
basis in the preparation heading into the draft.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
The teams have pasted on Jalen Carter are going to
look back at that one and go, oh boy, kind
of screwed that up.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
It just depends, though.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
It all depends because it's just it's the environment that
they're in. It's the environment that they're in, and there's
a lot of play. It goes in the play.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
And to that point, if he goes on a team
that doesn't have as many former college teammates and a
different environment, is he going to handle himself the same way?
Who knows, but that, without a doubt plays a factor.
I think the other thing is for every Jalen Carter
you want to highlight, there's also players who.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Had a terrible REP and improved and.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yeah, it didn't walk out who they are, So you can,
you can make a light of it, but the reality
is Jonas like, there's a lot of guys who had.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
That REP and they owned up to that rep and
it did not help them at all. So and then
meanwhile there's other guys who are like.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Super super good dudes, try everything but they don't have
to have the talent, like just hoping they can get
a shot or an opportunity. That's the fun part about
the draft though, too, is there's some great stories to him, man.
I mean even I saw a clip with Daniel Jeremiah
talking to Brock Purdy about his draft evaluation of him,
(20:16):
which I thought it was a little bit interesting. And
I know we're up against it and I know what we're
talking about next segment, But what was interesting about the
segment was everything Daniel Jeremiah said about Brock Purty.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
It was true back then.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Like all those things he the way he described him
as a prospect was like, that's really accurate. He just
happened to go as the last pick in the seventh
round and obviously landing with that environment, that situation, circumstance,
it's a lot of them to excel to the point
where he's going to be having a contract negotiation somewhere
(20:51):
around two hundred million dollars potentially.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
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Speaker 4 (21:00):
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Speaker 4 (21:26):
You made it a Bob Marley Monday. Huh okay, uh intentional,
but yes, okay, I'll take it. Do you have any
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Speaker 1 (21:37):
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around with Bob Man all around in my own.
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Speaker 4 (23:01):
Gude Problem presented by Express Pros. Wow. All right, uh so, good,
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Speaker 6 (23:15):
No?
Speaker 5 (23:17):
My do we have some pocket watching here? This is
Poka Nakua, the Rams wide receiver who was on the
Games with Names podcast with Julian Edelman and he was
asked about Rock Parties potential contract extension and what that
number could look like.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Let's take a listen. Is he gonna get a five?
I don't think, so, do you think he's gonna go
with a four? It's gonna start with a four? Yeah?
High four?
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Mm?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
No, I think mid for I think so. I mean,
I think if he does that, that'd be smart for
him and them.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
Yeah, I mean I think he's he seems like a
smart guy. I don't think he like there's still they
have a chance to still be in their window. And
I think if if he goes for a five, that
the window closes.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
So I'm confused. What I mean, is he there? GM?
I'm confused?
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Here, got go? Can you clear this up?
Speaker 6 (24:16):
Cute?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Give one of y'all, y'all clear this up?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
I mean, Jonas, why would they be talking about money
on this podcast with Juan Edelman?
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Like what?
Speaker 3 (24:25):
That's what The first question I'd bring to mind is
how do you get on that subject?
Speaker 4 (24:31):
And like, why are you asking.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
A player for an opposing a divisional opponent about another
quarterbacks contract negotiation?
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Like the whole thing is kind of odd.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
I mean, I guess it's interesting because now we're talking
about it because of what he said, But it's it's
interesting because you almost never hear other players talk about
a player should take less, Like at no point in
my experience around the NFL, or any player is any
player like ya, homie, you should take less like everyone's
(25:02):
like no, man, take as much you can get, like get, oh,
you can while you're here. Man, you know what NFL
stands for and not for long, like you better take
everything you can get. That's usually how most players approach it,
and honestly a lot of other players look at that
perspective and they say, I understand it because it keeps
pushing the envelope for contracts. Like if you continually keep
(25:25):
resetting the market at different positions, then allows other guys,
even if they are the best at their position, still
to make more money. Theoretically, it's one of the reasons
why when they slotted the NFL draft a rookie pool.
Once they started slotting those contracts, it actually limited how
fast these contracts could go up and resetting the market,
(25:46):
and it really hurt the middle class because now you
either have rookies or you have guys who made it.
You don't have anything in between. And you used to
have guys that you know, they had a good season,
it was a Pro Bowl year, and they could sign
a contract that was going to be comparitive with whatever
that top five, top ten rookie quarterback contract, for example,
would have been, because the money was so big. We
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always use the Sam Bradford example of being the first
overall pick. He was gonna end up making fifty million
guarantee before he took a snap, and that upsets some people,
probably some owners too, because they felt like there was
a big risk in all of that. But it was
still good for the middle class players because they're like, well,
hold on a second, this guy's getting fifty million. I
actually just had a Pro Bowl season, or I just
(26:29):
had a good season. I should be getting at least that, right.
So we've kind of gone down this whiny road now
of where we're looking at players and saying, ah, well,
maybe you should take a team discount. Like that's a
step backwards in my opinion. But maybe it's a little
like divisional warfare, you know, maybe bringing.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
It up Poka Nikua knows.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
This is a sore point for brockperty in the forty
nine ers, they see him twice a year, why not kind.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
Of you know, started to create a little controversy about it.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
You know, keep pouring a little extra to see if
you can't draw up some more frustration.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
I just don't understand why paying him more means the
window is closing for San Francisco, Like, is that is
he basically insinuating paying him more is closing the window
or doesn't mean that they're paying him because they feel
like the window is closing in terms of with the
roster that they have. I was just not clear on
(27:24):
what that may have represented.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Like I don't know, I just always was taught, you know,
I don't know if rude is the right word.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
But if you don't have something nice to say, like.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Don't don't watch somebody else's pockets, like don't don't worry
about what somebody else is making or what they're going
to get or what their contract is like, and he's
out there like, oh yeah, well, if they do give
him that money, their windows closed, like tang, Wait, what
is he basically saying if they give him all the money,
you don't have any money to give anybody else.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
He don't have any quality players around Is that like
a lightweight? Is he shaved?
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I Like, if you're if you're giving brock Party all
the money and you can't give quality players around him money,
then he's not going to be the brock party that
you paid him and the window is closed.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
It's is that the interpretation?
Speaker 5 (28:14):
It's like, I would just assume that like the bigger
the contracts get throughout the league, the better for everybody
would be mine would be my thought, because at some point,
Pooka the Coup is going to want to get paid too.
Like what if somebody said, oh, yeah, listen, you can't
give him that kind of money.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
He should he should take less, you know, if he's smarter,
build on around though.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Otherwise I mean the windows closing that they pay Pooking
the coup that money.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Yeahang right.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I mean have you ever heard a player ever say like,
oh no, dog, you should take less?
Speaker 1 (28:44):
He lightweight shaded him, man, I'm telling he shaded him
on that one. I'm not sure what what direction though,
I'm not sure where that's like, what is he basing
the shade off of? Is it he doesn't think he's
that good? Does he think that he's better if they
(29:05):
had more players? Maybe he's setting that up for himself.
I mean, didn't his quarterback does get paid?
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (29:11):
I mean if he if it wasn't a question about
how good he was, then there would be no question
about what should he get Like there was no like
Joe Burrow was gonna get paid. He was going to
get paid, same with Josh Allen, Mahomes like all that.
Like the fact that there's a debate about brock Party
is like the debate about Dak Prescott, like, well, if
(29:33):
you pay him, is he worth this much?
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Like what he's It's so it's so funny though too.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
And look again, I think what fascinates me about this
conversation is his first impressions are lasting. And every time
we look at Dak Prescott, you know, I probably had
he won a Super Bowl or we wouldn't be having
this conversation. But he hasn't gotten to that point. But
neither is Joe Burrow. He's gotten to one, hasn't won it.
(30:00):
Josh Allen hasn't gotten to one, even though he's one
MVP now and he's had some really successful years in
the playoffs. Dak can't really say that quite as much.
So there's different levels to this, but we always kind
of come back to, Yeah, there's just something about Dak
that's just not as good as Josh Allen or Joe
Burrow or Lamar Jackson all guys who are first round picks.
(30:22):
You know, Brock pretty same thing. And I've said this before,
Like I spoke to a guy last year. I guess
it would been two years ago, back when Sam Darnald
was on the roster in San fran and I said, hey,
I'm just curious, like how Donald looked, and he goes,
you would have not been able to tell that he
wasn't the starter based on just watching him throw, watch
him do everything and warm ups like he looks to
(30:43):
be the better guy, like bigger strong arm, you know,
just as athletic, if not more so.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
Now, that's not everything to the game.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
But when we come down to this contract situation, it's
why I always revert back to Okay, let's just say
that they wanted to trade brock Purtty, Like what would
be the trade bard market for brock Purty?
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Would it? Would it be that robust? It wouldn't be
anywhere close to the.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Same as Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson or Joe Burrow.
And that's what's interesting about this is, you know, is
brock Purty going to take that forty or forty five
million per year because he thinks that he wants to
build out the team out around him, or is there
also kind of some sort of realization that like, hey,
I'm not the same as those guys, like my intangibles
(31:26):
and maybe my strengths are in different points. But maybe
it also has a lot to do with who I'm
playing with, the system I'm playing with, and forty nine
ers fans can get up upset with me saying that,
But I think right now, if you ask yourself, if
you could have Lamar Jacks instead of brock Purty, you
would Joe Burrow seat of Brockerty, you would Josh Allen,
but you would hands down, like there's there's no confusion.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
What's so about Trevor Lawrence. I would They would probably take.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Trevor Lawrence too, even though he's not as accomplished, because
I think you put brock Purty in Trevor Lawrence's situation,
that's an entirely different set of circumstances. I'm not sure
they're ever even a playoff team. I'm just saying just
raw talent ability, you can see a drastic difference, and
it's not something to hold against brock Purty, But in
these negotiations, that's kind of the hold up and I've
(32:13):
said this before. Go look at Kyle Shanahan's track record.
This guy is one of the best to ever do
it as a offensive mine and play caller. He never
gets enough props. It didn't matter if it was RG
three or Kirk Cousins, two different systems, Ballin' Rookie of
(32:33):
the Year. Kirk Cousins ends up becoming a franchise quarterback.
He goes down to Atlanta, Matt Ryan MVP season, gets
to a Super Bowl. What else in Matt Ryan's career
did he do that?
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Never? You go look at his time in Houston when.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
He first got you call in place and all that,
and then he goes out to San Francisco, the one
of the better offensive teams, and with the exceptions of
Trey Lance, every single quarterback has been able to operate
that system be pretty darn good. I mean, Jimmy Garoppolo
had had some you know, health issues, but it got
into a Super Bowl. I mean, think about that for
a second.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
I don't want it.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
It doesn't matter, man. They just it's a system that
is quarterback friendly and you will have the opportunity to
excel in And I do wonder if they say, well,
if it's if we found Brock pretty is mister relevant
in the seventh round, we can find someone else who would
come in.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
And do this too.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
I mean they did sign mac Jones too. I don't
want anything to happen to Brock party. I would love
to see Mac Jones turn Just see Mac Jones get
a shot to just sling it out there, turn off,
because that was the rumor right that Shanahan wanted mac Jones.
And it was John Lynch who wanted Trey Lance back
(33:44):
when there was the rumblings about who they were going
to take there with the pick, and they ended up
going with Trey Lance and the rest is history. But well, listen, hey, Brock,
get paid what you can get paid. Don't worry about
what Pooka says.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Man.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I don't worry about no closing windows. You're open for business,
baby damn.
Speaker 5 (34:03):
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Speaker 4 (34:27):
It's a good pool, good, very good pool. It is.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Here he comes. This is his walkout music. Oh yeah,
if you did get the start again.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
Oh they got they got the the Trent Williams boombox
that he's bringing with him.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
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Three o'clock Spacific.
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Speaker 2 (35:40):
These might smell a little fun, that sounds incredible, but
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Lee's right to laugh.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
What do we got?
Speaker 8 (35:51):
Well, you had mentioned it Jonas Clippers at Nuggets tonight,
as well as Pistons at Nicks in the NBA playoffs
if you're looking for something to watch the night, and.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Anyhow playoffs as well.
Speaker 8 (35:58):
I don't know if we've mentioned that today Canadians at
Capitals and Oilers at Kings their first games game ones,
and then we also have Blues at Jets and Avalanchet Stars.
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
The Kings can't beat the Oilers, but the Houston Oilers
know the Edmonton. But if you believe the great Fred Rogan,
he claims it's going to be a different story. He's
a big King's blow hard. He he claims it's going
to be a different story because the Kings have home.
Isis time, according to him. So people listening on the blowtorch,
(36:33):
just so you know, Fred called a shot. I know
if that's good or bad luck for anybody out there,
we'll call my shot.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
What's that she got? Blue Jackets are out of it.
I'm done.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
That's the Colt that's that Colt, you spin it.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
I didn't spend it that time. I was just ready
to go. Okay, yeah, I was ready to go. Fellas
we had mentioned it earlier.
Speaker 8 (37:02):
Rest in peace to Pope Francis, who passed away this
morning at the age of eighty eight. We got odds
though on the next Pope, you guys conclaim starts it's
fifteen days from now. Wait, yeah, yeah, well you know
this is the news. So Cardinal Pietro Perlyn is the
odds on favorite. He's the Secretary of State at the Vatican.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
What do you got on this? What do you check
out the favorite?
Speaker 8 (37:26):
Because he's the secretary of State at the Vatican, so
he's very high up in the ranks as is.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
You've been to the Vatican either, you too? You know, Lee,
I know you have. You're trying to get forgiven for all.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
The sins, But have you really Lee Leaves, Like, is
there a liquor store called the Vatican?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Have you been, Jonas? Have you been?
Speaker 1 (37:46):
No?
Speaker 4 (37:46):
I have not been to you. You got to go.
If you haven't been, you got to go. It is incredible.
I would do it. Yeah, do it for certain we
do a show from there. I'm not sure that's going
to happen, although the times it would be better for
you guys that's afternoon drive bottle scot in between Mass.
(38:08):
Probably damn. I've done Mass quite a few times. I've
done Communion online. Although one thing that bothered me is
you're not supposed to take photos and Assistine Chapel.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
And so many tourists do. It's like, dude, just stop,
You're not supposed to be doing this. Why do you
have to do this? Why do you have to ruin it?
I mean, it's incredible all the way around, but a
lot of people abusing some of that privilege to be
in there.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
I love to check it out maybe one day. What's
the big cathedral or whatever in Barcelona? Is a Barcelona?
Speaker 4 (38:41):
There's one big Familia? Is that what it is? I've
been to that? Very beautiful? Do you know that?
Speaker 6 (38:46):
Lee?
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Antonio Galadi?
Speaker 8 (38:47):
These are the architects who does a lot of the
architecture around the Barcelona.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
How the hell would you know that? Lee? Just one
of the things I know. He's got random facts. Yeah,
have you been to Barcelona? Lee? I love Barcelon. Oh
you went on a bender, didn't you?
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (39:01):
Yeah, in the Park of Singouti's park.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yeahuti, I dislocated my pinky because I saw a very beautiful,
beautiful young lady topless, and I panicked and ran into
the water and dove into the water, the Black Sea,
and hit my finger off of it wasn't deep enough
where I dove, but I.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
That was the first time I was stand up.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I thought she was watching me, and yeah, there you go.
I had to get out of there. If that's all
I know, like this, Oh, I get out of here.
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