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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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I see we kept his music the same anyway though.
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Yeah? Yeah, some weirdos man?
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Who's he?
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Thank you? Thank you, Lorena, thank you.
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For the respect. That makes sense. There you go.
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There you show again, us go on Two Pros and
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ering In, Jonas NOx with you here. No Brady Quinn
suspension for the final hour based on his dismissive attitude
over my final mock ten draft.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Or whatever it's called that we did.
Speaker 6 (01:13):
It's very difficult to predict the top the bottom ten
picks in the draft. It's even more difficult than predicting
the top ten. We gave it a shot dismissive and
conduct detrimental to the team, also a positive PD test.
He pissed hot and so he is out for this
final hour here. But it is Stix and I taking
you all the way up until nine am Eastern time,
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six o'clock Pacific, and we open up the final hour
of this Football Friday with a special guest, a man
you normally hear on Wednesdays here on the show, but
he is gracing us with his presence here on this
Football Friday, the one and only Petros Papadakis. He is
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You can get him on at the Old p Petro's
good morning.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Good morning, Hello, good morning to everybody.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
Hello, La bar, good morning, sir.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
That's on the great coverage last night.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Oh thanks man, thank you appreciate that.
Speaker 7 (02:12):
You know, we weren't able to carry it in LA
because of the Clipper game, but yeah, yeah, it's unfortunately
that means I had to actually do the first hour
of the draft on the show, which was fun.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
We had a good time.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Petro's most importantly how you feel.
Speaker 7 (02:30):
I'm okay, I'm fine, Thank you for asking. But I'm
doing better.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Some people are calling you names on on social media.
I didn't know that that was public republican something.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
No, No, I was misdiagnosed, but I'm right. Wait what hell?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
What happened?
Speaker 7 (02:46):
No, that I went to I had a bad rash
and I went to the doctor and they told me
I had shingles, and then I went uh. And then
a couple of days later I went back to the
doctor and the doctor was like the other doctor, the
dermatologist was like, this isn't shingle. So I was like, okay,
I guess I can go back outside again. So anyway, Yeah,
I'm healing.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I'm doing better.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Wow, conflicting reports, what.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Are you work?
Speaker 7 (03:11):
You know, just like Urgent Care on Easter at eight o'clock.
You know, sometimes it's good to get a second opinion.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Well did any of those picks yesterday need a second opinion?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I mean, you know, time will tell.
Speaker 7 (03:25):
As Bob Marley said, you think you're in heaven, but
you're really in hell.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
But I gotta say, like usually, I.
Speaker 7 (03:34):
Mean ninety nine percent of the time, I have no
time for the NFL Draft, which makes me very different
from a lot of people in the sports world. The
event that it's become is mind boggling. I mean, the
fact that there's two hundred and fifty thousand people or whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
How many people were there one hundred and fifty g's.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 7 (03:56):
I mean after the Packers picked, they all boned out.
But it was pretty and that. But that was really
late and that's impressive. I mean just to see it
looked like farm aide. But there's no band. I mean
that's the thing that really I know they have performances
and stuff, but that's the thing that really blows my
mind about the NFL Draft, because nothing happens other than
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the fact that a guy runs around in a suit
or hugs Goodell, or there's a heartwarming moment for whoever's
announcing the pick, or some nostalgic name from the past
or some guy and you're like, who's that because I
never saw him without a helmet on. Like all that
is going on. But it's really interesting because I mean,
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it didn't used to be like this, or I didn't
feel like it used to be like this, But I
mean NFL coverage in twenty twenty five, or at least
maybe for the last fifteen twenty years, it's just become
like a douche fest, right, Like it's a douchefest, like
pre half in post is a douchefest. Like I gotta
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watch Peter Schrager, you know, I mean, it's it's you know,
and I like Peter, but you know what I'm saying,
it's all these guys like trying to out self important
each other, you know, whether it's rapapoor or the rap
sheet or schefter, you know, I mean, it's just these
guys in different suits and sweatshirt combos, douche out whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
The good old days with Beino Cook, you know right.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
You know he wasn't a douche. Now he was a
drunk old white guy, but he wasn't a doude. But
you know what I mean, Like when you watch an
NFL game or watch NFL Sunday, Yeah, there's a lot
of douchebaggery with the reporting, but at a certain point
it goes away and you watch the game and that's
what people are tuning in for the product it's amazing
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to me how popular the NFL Draft is when all
it literally is is the douche fest and the bells
and whistles of the douchery and it's it's it's amazing
how popular the event is. I have to say I
watched the event last night for the first time and
uh in a long time, with a lot more interest
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for one reason, and that was the same reason maybe
a lot of other people were watching is Shador wasn't
getting drafted, and not like I expected him to get
drafted or didn't expect him to get drafted. I mean,
I am not a breaker down of tape when it
comes to this stuff. I've seen a lot of Chaduur
to have my opinions about him as a football analyst.
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But it's really interesting because literally you had Joel Klatt,
our colleague.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
And friend, who was angry.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
I mean, he was mad that Shadur didn't get picked
Lewis the Lewis guy, Rittick.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
He was pissed.
Speaker 7 (06:53):
Mel Kiper was livid to where they picked Jackson Dart.
New York trades backhand to pick that Jackson Dart. They're
playing Jackson Dart highlights and Mel Kiper is just talking
about Shador and like Schnor didn't get picked, you know,
And and that's if there's thirty two NFL teams that
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didn't pick him. That doesn't mean that he's not going
to have a good career, that he's not going to
be a player in the NFL and have an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
But it's really interesting.
Speaker 7 (07:23):
I mean, Lewis Riddick sat there and said he could
have a better career than Tom Brady, he could have
a better career than Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
And it's like you didn't say that, Yes he did.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
You know he did. I'll play it for you and
you know that. I mean, it just starts to get desperate.
These guys are trying.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
To I don't know what benefit. What's the benefit of
doing that.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
I guess you don't want to piss off Dion and
Dion you'd call Dion and say, I mean the same thing.
Where Like you just heard a callin Cowhard clip about
how old Lebron is the one that you could feel
his presence out there. It's like that's the only person
that said that. Everybody else is said Lebron is slipping.
You know, Well, what does Cowhard say that for or
because Maverick Carter one of those guys gonna call him
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and say, good on you, Colin, We'll give you the
next whatever. I mean, I get it. No, that's what
it is. I mean, I get it. It's currency. But
at a certain point, it's like when every pundit is
screaming and whining for something and the NFL gms are
rejecting it, pick after pick after pick. At a certain
point it's like, what am I watching? You know, ESPN
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is sitting here trying to make fetch happen, and it's
it's that made it interesting to me just to see
how it was playing out and at the same I mean,
and I mean, we can have a conversation about it,
unless you guys want to change the topic. But it
is an interesting thing to me because you think about
it and whether you like Shad as a player or not,
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or whether you think what happened at Colorado was a
super remarkable sea change of college football or that they
just did okay outrunning a lot of the expectations. I mean,
we could have an art argument about that or not.
But I mean, if I'm an NFL franchise, I mean,
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do you really how good is he to invite that in.
I mean, that's usually the way, right the balance of
the scales of justice of football is you look at
a guy and you say, how good is he compared
to what we have to deal with if we pick him,
And in some instances it's a yes, you know, for
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different guys. I mean, obviously Johnny Manzel is a great example.
I mean, huge red flags all the way around, but
somebody was willing to deal with that to try to
develop him as a football player. Other guys for different reasons,
the guy at the guy from Inland Empire in Washington,
Jaden Daniels, I mean, his mom is with him every
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step of the way, just like Lamar Jackson, and some
people would see that as a detriment. I know a
lot of people see that as a detriment. But those
franchises have said, no, no, no, we'll deal with that whatever
comes with that, and it's working out pretty well for
the Ravens with Lamar and for Jaden Daniels in DC.
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That's something that they said, Okay, this is all something
we've heard about. These are whispers that we have to
deal with this mom and the family in a different
kind of way, Okay, let's try to do it and
pull it off. And it seems to be working out,
so that part of it, you know, just that balance
of how good is this guy compared to how much
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of a distraction he'll be. And if you bring in
Shador and he's not playing, somebody's gonna ask Dion about it,
and you know, Dion might criticize you your GM if
he is playing and not doing well, he might criticize
the old line. He might make headlines. You know, a
lot of that stuff. A lot of these maybes uh
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waight up with what Shador actually is as a football player,
that that might have kept him out of the first round.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 7 (11:09):
But but when you think about it, an NFL team
that brings him in and then some nightmare ensues, they'd
feel pretty stupid because everybody else might have seen it coming.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
I don't know if you guys get the same feeling
as me. And this isn't apples to apples, but I
feel like some of the.
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Coverage is starting to remind me a little bit of
Brownie James.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
Like it just again, I saw that on Twitter, you
know what I mean, where it tells you you're not
looking at what you're looking at, right, But but you know,
I mean, I I don't think that's fair to.
Speaker 6 (11:43):
Should do herself well and he's deserved way better. I mean,
they're both going to be second round picks. But again,
I don't want to get caught up in the weeds here,
but I'm just saying, as far as the coverage of it,
it does feel like, well, I mean, the guy who's
the guy who's nowhere close to being the best player
in the draft is the most polarizing player in the draft,
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all because of a good amount.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
Of the pundits last night on both networks covering the event,
which have exclusive coverage.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
We're throwing an on air temper tantrum over it.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
I mean, though, seriously to where that was the whole
draft and that is I mean, I think that speaks
to your point. I mean, and and a lot of
people said last night in social media, sorry, ESPN's whole
pr push couldn't get this guy draft.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
And it's true though.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
I mean, and it just goes to show, I mean,
there's such a thing as media pressure, and there's such
a thing as kind of a general consensus. But these
guys are not going to be bullied into picking somebody
they don't want to pick before they have to pick them.
And the market in the NFL is the biggest meritocracy
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there is in the world as far as bringing a
player in and that whole person and what it means
to the franchise. These things are gigantic investments nowadays and
the value of it all is just rocketed, and the
market tells you what your value is.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And I think that was a really hard lesson last
night for everybody.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
Who thinks that they can just go on they have
so much power just going on TV and screaming into
a camera about something they think is favorable for them
to say because of one reason or another, the market
in the NFL tells you what's what. And I do
think that that it got to the point where it
was just kind of gross last night, where it's like,
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can this guy smile?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
You know?
Speaker 7 (13:43):
Is he that mad about Shador that he can't smile?
I mean, how angry are these guys that he's not
getting picked for one reason or another? And that was
really it probably shouldn't have been, but very entertaining for me.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
You know, you know what I've been trying to understand
because there's so much to be talked about and discussed
about the draft. But what I don't understand is is how, like, Okay,
I get it's Dion and and I get that, you know,
it's the capital and all that stuff that's connected to it.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I understand that.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
I just help me understand, Uh, why how do you
become that big of a storyline and we're not even
really discussing like nuts the nuts if you ask me, right,
I mean, but.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
That's Colorado football the last couple of years too.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
So it's like you create a smoke screen of impact
and effect?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Is that?
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Is that what this really comes down to? Because I mean,
think about it. We're retiring jerseys, you know, we're up
for the Heisman, We're heading into the draft.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
We're talking top five.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Pick, and and he he has dominated the narrative and
the storylines of this entire draft, maybe outside of Travis Hunter,
maybe even.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
The entire college football season. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
No, I think you're right in a lot of ways.
And you wonder how much of it is merited and
how much of it is just a media event. And
I mean it's probably sixty forty, you know, and it
is unfortunate because but you know, if it works, if
it bleeds, it leads, and Colorado football is getting ratings,
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whether or not, if they're mediocre or just a little
bit above mediocre, or how much they've improved, all of
that is relative to how many people are watching.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
So if the market, and I mean that's the flip
side of the coin.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
If the market's telling you everybody wants to watch you
Dora Sanders, or the circus that is Colorado, or the
circus that's having a little bit more success that in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
If you're looking at.
Speaker 7 (16:03):
Year two last year, which was a lot more impressive,
but still not good enough to really challenge for the
big twelfth title or anything like that, the market dictated
that too people want to watch and it became a
big topic. But I do think at a certain point
it's a responsibility of the networks to try to just
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water down the coverage.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
You know.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
What it reminds me a little bit of LeVar is
the Lonzo Ball thing. You know, I mean that Lonzo
Ball got picked by the Lakers because and everybody's like, well,
you can't.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Blame magic for that.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
It's just a local pressure, and it's like, well, people
look back and not even like five years later, which
is usually the way to judge a draft. But people
look back like a year later and they were like, well,
what about this deeron Fox? What about this Jason Tatum?
What the hell were you guys doing.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Petro's Magic said that his jersey was going up in
the rafters. I think it was right next to the
Taylor Swift banners exactly.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
See that was a media event too, right, Like that
was a total media event. LeVar Ball was going on
Colin Cowherd and fighting with that Leahy chick whatever happened
to her. Uh you know what I mean, Like every
day it was, Oh my god. Lvar said he could
beat Michael Jordan one on one. Oh, LeVar said he
(17:21):
could win motorcross. So LaVar said, you know, I mean
it just never stopped. LaVar could win la Mon's uh
and uh, it just kept going and going, and it
became a media event. Lonzo Ball got picked and then
the dust kind of settled, and media people wondered if
the Lakers didn't kind of get bullied into that.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I mean, Magic Johnson's excuse was.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
Literally, I we had great waffle strawberry pancakes and Chino
Hills so I picked.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I mean, it was amazing, it really was.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
We got good strawberries out in Chino, right, But.
Speaker 7 (17:55):
That was a situation you're right about that great agricultural area.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Got straw berry's out in China.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Really yeah, no doubt, very agricultural.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Not just Oxnard, they got him in China.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I played football with some good players from the Nard.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
There you go, Nardcore, Kerry Colbert, Jacob Rogers, Chad Pearson, Core,
Krry Colbert.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
You get over that Camerio grad. It's a whole different world.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
I remember Kerry Colbert tried to drive on my recruiting trip,
you know, because we were all I mean, on his
recruiting trip.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I was his host, and he was like, you sure,
maybe I should drive.
Speaker 7 (18:30):
You know, we had a car full of idiots, and
I was like, dude, you're black, this is South Central
I gotta drive.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I had to tell him about you know, he was
from Oxnard.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
Petro, a guy I mean back in the back of
the nineties in South central lav Army.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Come on, I get it.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Petro is the guy that you were spoke very highly
of in your deal.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Over on his recruiting, in your dealings, in your dealings
with him throughout the course of calling games, Ash and
gent he ends up with the Raiders. Yeah, And as
the draft got closer, more and more people were kind
of echoing your sentiment throughout the course of it. Great kid,
great player, that's one that feels like it's going to
work at the next level.
Speaker 7 (19:13):
Yeah, I mean, I love the player and I got
to see him a whole lot ever since his true
freshman year at Boise, and he had a lot of
wear and tear last year. I mean, they gave him
so many carries and he was literally carrying the whole town,
the whole conference, the whole blue turf deal, all the
way to how far they got, which was maybe the
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greatest season in Boise history. But you have to look
at him in an interesting way.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
He was a slot guy. You know, he grew up
in Italy and stuff.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
You heard the story because the military family, and he
came to Texas and he was a slot guy for
a little while. Started playing running back when he got
to Boise. He didn't start his freshman and sophomore year.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I mean, he played and you could tell he was good.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
But there was a guy named George Holani who was
a running back from Servite, same place as Tetuoa McMillan
and Mason Graham who got picked last night, survilled High
School in uh in Los Angeles, Orange County area and
the Friars and.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yeah, and uh.
Speaker 7 (20:22):
It's it was. It was interesting just to see kind
of how that played out. And uh, George Holani was
their starter and Jenti kind of kind of sort of
spelled him. And it really wasn't until like midway through
last year and then and or midway through two years
ago and last year where it was like, Wow, this
guy's a really special running back. He's really hard to tackle.
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I mean, he's got so many of the weird intangibles
and the great attitude and and a lot of the
physical gifts. But he his will to not get tackled
is amazing.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
He's jacked.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
And then there's two things too, Like that Cam Skataboo's
like that too, right, that Arizona State white guy that
looks like a criminal.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
I mean, you could take the sack.
Speaker 7 (21:05):
You can take the Sacramento out of the small college back.
I mean you could take the small college back out
of Sacramento. He can't take the Sacramento.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
And Camscataboo does look like a guy who would go
to lock up in two weeks, have a cheer, he'd
have a tear drop tattoo.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
But he's getting sued for like breaking some guy's hip
on a on a golf cart.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
But like the thing about camscattaboy is and he might
have a very good NFL career, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
And I loved him as a back.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
But if he broke a tackle, which he often did,
very difficult to tackle one on one a lot like Genty, he.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Goes another two three yards past that point.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
If Genty breaks your tackle, he can really scatter away
from you accelerate quickly. And that was really the thing
that set Genty apart aside from all the really special
things he does in the box as a back, it
was the fact that he could turn you know, what's
a good twelve to fifteen yard run for most backs,
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and he goes seventy. He finds a way to keep
it going. He has a plan down the field, and
that is really remarkable. I mean you could see his
long runs and just how he keeps on going. And
when you have a game where you have twenty five
thirty carries and you're ripping off thirty forty yard runs.
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I mean that that guy was a was a real
battery powered animal last year, and I can't wait to
see what he does with the Raiders.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
Well get him on X at the old p Petros
pavenegas the co host of the Petro Some Money show
that you can hear on the blow toards in the
LA Sports.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
Analyst Well I was saying, I was saying earlier, dude, dude,
I mean, I feel like there's the possibility he does
if you if you've talked all this about him, and
if the value is what people were trying to make
it out to be, he goes in the first round.
So the fact that he didn't go in the first round,
would you be surprised if he slipped out of a second.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
I think everybody, all these guys are looking at each
other in the NFL, said no.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
You do it. You do it.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
You know, I mean, Pete, you do it.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
I mean and in many ways, like t Bow or
like Kaepernick, you know, in one way or the other,
it's like you want to invite the circus into your town.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Whether it's right or wrong, to go ahead.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
We don't want to I mean Petros.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
There's actually a good chance he might get drafted while
you guys are on the air later.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Get him on X at the olp heyrun as funny
as hell, bro.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Here
on Fox Sports Radio, Lavon Arrington, Jonas Knox with you
coming up next here though, we are going to tell
you about, well, apparently the overwhelming opinion on what could
happen at the top of the draft. Later on today
we'll get into that for you here on FSR.
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just go peds by the way, Uh, it is time
here on the Also, I was gonna ask you this,
was there really a feud on the set of Any
Given Sunday between Ll cool J and Jamie Fox.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
That was a real thing, right, They said Ell was
taking that seriously.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
You know, in his mind, he's like he was.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
A football player. Maybe that was a form of method
acting before we even like was really acknowledging method acting,
you know. But yeah, they they was like really said
l l was really into it.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
He's a movie my guy really a football.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Player, listen.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
But some people could be celebrated for that. There's that
guy who played Lincoln. Guy that my left foot or
whatever is Daniel day Johnson. What's his namely Daniel day Lewis. Yeah,
he gets celebrated from method acting. Ella Coolja tries to
method act in a football movie and he gets judged
for it.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
That's correct.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
See what is sometimes? Yeah, not my world, you know, No,
maybe I don't know. No.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
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Speaker 2 (27:01):
You heard the.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
Draft coverage live here last night on Fox Sports Radio.
LeVar Arrington, Joe Douglas, Jay Glazer, Jenny Tafft did a
great job. And you were making the point because I
was listening. Because I listen, you were making the point
that you were discussing throughout the course of the week,
which I think Joe Douglas agreed with you. You've got the
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two best players in the draft, they're available, ready.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
To be taken, and.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
I just think them it doesn't it feel like it
puts cam Ward in a tough spot because now the
Titans are going to be and Titans fans are going
to be looking at them going you better hope that
Travis Hunter isn't everything everybody said he is and that
Abdul Carter isn't everything everybody says he is, because that's
everybody talking the same thing about both those guys. And
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the feeling on cam Ward is had he come out
last year, he goes after everybody in the first round.
So it just feels like it puts Tennessee in a
tough spot in this situation.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
I mean, it feels like Tennessee puts himself in a
tough spot in this situation, right, And it is what
I asked Joe Douglas and Jay Glazer, like, especially Joe
being a GM, how is it that you can like
think about this Jonas cam Ward was ranked like fifteenth,
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as low as fifteenth on on some ranking boards, not
even a top ten prospect in grade out and ranking.
But again, you know, and Q isn't here to defend it,
So I'm gonna take full advantage of it the idea
that you could say, well, but it's because of how
important the position is that you can just throw throw caution,
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throw throw education, throw information into the win, Like, Okay,
the kid isn't ranked higher than at least let's just
go at least ten guys. They said, They said, there's
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eleven eleven guys and he did include cam Ward, but
I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
I wouldn't include cam Ward. So how do you do that?
Speaker 5 (29:26):
And you're right, and I said, listen, it creates a
situation where it's almost unobtainable for cam Ward to live
up to the billing of being the.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Number one overall draft pick.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
I mean, that's that's going to be that that's going
to be a hard one to navigate. Jonas like if
he has a If he does, then we should look
at cam Ward as a goat because he has been
put in one of the most daunting challenges, which is
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coming into an organization and a franchise that's struggling. They
haven't been able to figure it out, not only as
a team, but they haven't been able to figure it
out with the quarterback's position. While you're trying to build
this team up you're going to say, Okay, we're going
to start with this quarterback. You're saying we're going to
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build around this quarterback for the future. And so if
that's how you're looking at it, you've put all of
the weight and all of the pressure on Cam War
to be this lights out amazing football player from day one.
Now keep that in mind, because that's very important. If
he had time to develop, maybe learn what's going on,
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get acclimated, and then get integrated into playing, maybe it's
a little different. But he's getting thrown to the fire.
He's getting thrown to the wolves a meetate because he
went number one overall. That's a hard that's a hard
that's a hard sell for me. Meanwhile, if you add
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Travis Hunter, you can get wins and people will see
those wins and they'll be happy about it. You can
get Abdual Carter, You'll get wins and you can see
those wins. The grade justifies the pick. There's no real
reason to debate it. It's a team that's trying to
find his way. Generally, these teams stink anyway. Tennessee's probably
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gonna stink regardless. There's a strong possibility the teams that
that Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter went to are gonna
stink anyway. But the bottom line.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Is is that at least the pick is justified.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
That's I just don't understand how you don't lean on
the idea of justified picks, Like, oh, he's the highest
rated guy in the draft, but we went with a
guy that's rated fifteenth because he's a quarterback.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
Yeah, like if if he was fourth or fifth on
your big board. I okay, I get it, because that
maybe makes up the difference for what we're looking at.
But and then you hear the report from Schefter that
the Giants were aggressively trying to trade up to where
then like, let's say that deal gets done, the Giants
move up to one, Then all of a sudden, the
Titans pick up probably an extra first round pick. They
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dropped two spots back and still end up with abdual Carter.
And I was on San Diego Sports seven sixty yesterday.
I was talking with Ben and Sammy and I was
telling him like, I was like, listen, wouldn't you rather
because we talked about this leading up to the draft.
You could say whatever you want about Aaron Rodgers, but
I think he's got a place in Nashville. I think
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that was one of the teams that was speculated about.
I would feel much more comfortable if I was a
Titans fan going into next year with a combination of Rogers,
an Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter than just cam Ward
and saying here you go, Bud, figure it out.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I mean, I know it's a winnable vision, you would think.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
But I just he's in a tough spot, man, especially
with those a tough one.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
It's a tough one Jonas, and you know what I mean,
at least he gets to say he was the number
one overall draft pick. At least. I mean, you know,
this is America.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
So for all the people that's talking crazy like you know,
what's interesting is it's just when we pick and choose
our criticisms and our lobbing of what we want to
lob out there. A lot of people are throwing the
race card out there on Shador Sanders right, like confident
black Man. You know, it's the only reason why they're
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not they're not dealing with them.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
You know, it could be his his his appearance.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
You know, he's flashy, all these different things. You know,
cam Ward has braids. Bro cam Ward. You know, if
y'all hadn't noticed, he's black, black dude. You know what,
Let's let's take it a step further. There's a dude
that went number two overall. Team traded up to get him.
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He's heading to du duvol He's black, got braids, you know, flat,
he's flashy. Oh and by the way, he got his
jersey retired too at Colorado, By the way he played
for Colorado, by the way he played for Dion Sanders.
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You want me to keep going, I mean because we
could keep going up top because the next pick, you
know what, he's black too.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
Yeah, and he was grilled out, so if you.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Want to say too too flamboyant and too flashy at Duel,
was fully fully blinged out from mouth to toe, had
his sunglasses on, had his had his his gold grill,
his diamond grill, had the incredible had the incredible chain on,
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all all iced out, super dripped out like sometimes you know,
people talk crazy man sometimes.
Speaker 6 (35:14):
Thank God for Will Campbell. He broke that streak with
them short ass arms. Look look look here, but I
guess that'll be racial. What you're trying to say, all
white people have short arms.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
No, I don't know Rex was white racist.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
Okay, I thought t Rex was green.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
But I'm just saying, man, at some point, let it
just be what it's gone. Every single thing doesn't have
to be this is America. Like you're sitting there and
you're diminishing one thing for the other. Meanwhile, most people
would argue the fact that, regardless of anything, I don't
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think any quarterback really and my estimation was good enough
to go in the first round this year if we're
being honest, like if we call in the spade a spade,
And last I checked, Jackson Dart is not black, so
this is not racial. Well, if they were white, they'd
be first rounders. Listen, I don't think one quarterback was
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a first round draft pick grade guy this draft. And
I stand on that. That's a hell I put ten
toes down on and I'll stand on it.
Speaker 8 (36:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
And that hill's black and white.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Well, I don't know about that. It's probably green or
maybe brown.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
From the dirt.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
No, don't do that. Don't do that because I'm talking
about dirt. I got you, Yeah, don't do that.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
All right, So coming up next here, We are going
to close up shop on this Football Friday with another
edition of Lee's Leftovers here on FSR.
Speaker 8 (36:49):
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Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
Sponge Cake.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
Watching the Sun Bake.
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Sports Radio. I got a theory on this song that
every person that dies of alcoholism, they hear this on
their way out, like their body just knows.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
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Speaker 4 (37:21):
Them off somewhere. Yeah, send them off with this.
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it's time for this.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Please might smell a little fun cake.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Sounds incredible, but they're still good. Time to find out
what's left. It's Lee's left jos.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
All right, the lap what do We got a.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
Lot of good feedback on the Skelle Warriors yesterday, the
Saturday Morning Cartoon.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
So I decided to rock the T shirt. I told
you I would.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
I had the Captain power and the Skeleton Warriors laid out.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Yeah, a lot of people remember the good old days.
Speaker 6 (38:11):
Oh my god, I'm the only person on this show
that's not accomplished anymore. I really leaves and movies. Labar
was a top draft pick. Brady was a first round
draft pick. Lorena does music videos.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
I got silch.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Lorena wasn't a music video with a mask on I've
got She's in another music.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
Video too, but I won't go there on that one.
Speaker 7 (38:38):
Yeah, I got.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I worked at Chuckie Cheefs.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
I mean, you too could be in a music video.
Let's do it together.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
I mean, you've been in two Pros and a Cup
of Joe video.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
And the Aaron Rodgers Netflix dock your mad trees right
where you go?
Speaker 6 (39:04):
What else we got keeping up with the dorkiness stuff.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
I'm gonna go see not Phantom Menace, Revenge of the Sith.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
I'm gonna go see The New Star Wars The Old
Star Wars re release.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
I'm gonna go, uh, get my get.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
My doork on.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
If you know what I'm going to go see on?
What's that? You know?
Speaker 5 (39:22):
I'm going to go see my eyelids, well deserved, my
eyelids need to be seeing my eyeballs.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
What's that you get home last night after the drive.
Speaker 5 (39:32):
Like ninety five, I'm tired. I can't believe I did this.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Fire Boss, tire boss.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Yeah, I'll be good.