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May 8, 2025 39 mins

The Saints are still trying to figure out their QB situation thanks to Carr’s injuries. Senior NFL Reporter for TheMMQB.com, Albert Breer talks about Shedeur Sanders and all things NFL. Plus, broken glass on Lee’s Leftovers.

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Two pros and a cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Is this what? What group is this?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Lincoln Park formerly known as Hybrid Theory.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Hybrid Theory, Hm hmmkay.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
That's why their name of their first album was called
Hybrid Theory.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Was because they were named Hybrid There.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, pay tribute to their their name. Oh again, we're
just talking shop here was.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Was Brady Quinn a part of that group?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Damn?

Speaker 3 (00:40):
He looks like a lead singer. Although they're probably a
little more diverse. They're probably only like up to your
hip though, and yeah they're not.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
They're not big guys.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, well, okay, can you sing Brady?

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Hey?

Speaker 4 (00:59):
You can? I cannot.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
No, it's not true that you can't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Won't do it, Scott, you need that baritone a little
bit or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:09):
That's just fun. That's just good old fun. I actually
thought of making that my my Interest song, and I
was like, ah, we'll just save that for other segments.
Although that's kind of died out. I can't remember what
we use that in reference to, you know, Lincoln Park.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
The group kind of looks like what our show team
would look like if we had one.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Yeah, it's fair. Ironically, speaking of Lincoln Park, I got
a high school buddy, he got his car stolen there
the other day.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
We're in Lincoln Park.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Oh yeah, they live in Lincoln Park. I think they're
moving on. Then his wife got held up her car
stolen at a gas station. Sounds like things are going
really well in Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I mean, they got a zoo and everything over there.
It's a surprising that. I mean, that's what people will
call it.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Damn yep, thank god she dropped off the kids already.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Dang well, you know, it could be could be worse.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
I definitely could. Look speaking of cargetting stole, Hey looks
like a social media like a video editor. Hey, look
at that news update.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Person blah speaking of Uh great, great, great segue from
from Brady Quinn. Uh cars. And we're going to talk
about Derek Carr because there was that story that came
out where he had this shoulder surgery that popped up

(02:46):
I don't know, or the shoulder issue that popped up
that he was considering having surgery on. It was right
around the draft, and its just the timing of it
was a little odd. It just felt like there was
you know, maybe a little bit more to the story
and a little bit more to what was going on there,
and apparently the details are such this according to Jane

(03:07):
Slater of the NFL Network that Derek Carr has been
to New Orleans twice in recent weeks to meet with
team doctors at the facility. It is believed that he
injured the shoulder in the same game he injured his
left wrist. He also suffered a concussion in that game.
That game was Week fourteen against the Giants. He didn't
start meaningfully throwing the football until this spring as he

(03:29):
ramped up for the offseason work, and that's when he
noticed he had this issue with the shoulder. So they're
still trying to figure out what the course of action
will be. But apparently that is the story as to
how this happened. So we must ask the quarterback of
the show, Brady Quinn, do you buy that theory or
that story that you know he didn't realize there was

(03:49):
something wrong with his shoulder and until he started throwing
what four months about four months after he suffered the
injury in Week fourteen.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
Look, everyone got a different way they handled the offseason.
Some guys really don't pick up a football for a while,
and they like to get their shoulder rest, they like
to get their body rest, they like to do other things.
They usually golf. I remember when I used to train
in Arizona now seasons, there was a quarterback out there
and he would come out to Athletes' Performance which is

(04:20):
now called EXOS right off the campus there of Arizona State,
and he would go out on the track and he
would throw the ball from about ten yards twenty yards
thirty yards away. I don't even know if he build
up to like forty and probably get about I don't know,

(04:40):
fifty throws in and just literally playing catch, you know,
straight across from one another ten yards twenty thirty yards,
and then he'd go he go hit the golf course
like hed come in for his workout, do his workout,
and he go hit the golf course the rest of
the day. And that was his routine. And he felt
like that was the best way to manage keeping his
shoulder and everything in a condition that allowed him to

(05:01):
be ready for the off season training and practices, but
also not burn it out. So by the time you
got the camp, you didn't have dead arm. And that's
a real thing, you know, guys will go all out
in the off season. They'll they'll prepare for the OTA's
mini camp and they get the training camp. About a
couple weeks into it, you get exhausted with so many
throws that you end up having dead arm where you

(05:24):
just can't get any pop out of your arm. And
sometimes it's you know, shoulder pain and elbow pain, whatever
it is. All those things will happen. So everyone's got
a different way of doing it. You know, a lot
of guys will We'll find a way of training and
doing some throwing or doing some sort of throwing motion
that mimics that that's not as detrimental on your on

(05:45):
their shoulder. So it all really depends on the individual.
So is it is it possible?

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah, he could have taken a bunch of time off
and when he started really throwing and ramping up again,
he has said, Dude, I thought this would go away.
Like I thought, you know, this would give it some time,
the inflammation would go down, and I'd be able to throw.
Now I feel like this is an issue. I mean,
think about Ryan remember Ryan Tandhill's knee when they often
to not have surgery. It was a partially torn acl

(06:12):
I think yeah, and then once they got into OTA's
they're like, oh boy, we made a mistake, Like I'm
not going to be able to do this the way
I thought. And that's the hard part is you really
don't know until you start to kind of ramp back
up again and get even close to the level of
intensity that you're going to in a game and understand, oh,

(06:32):
my body's not reacting the way I think it should.
So definitely possible. Not that uncommon, honestly for him to
kind of realize it at the time of which he did.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
I just would ask the question, what's the benefit of it,
Like why, you know, does it even why is it
even really a large conversation, like I know for a
high school guy or a college guy. If it's high school,
you know, you you don't want to lose a scholarship, right,
So if you have an injury of some sort, you

(07:07):
make it through an entire season, right bumping off season,
you better make it through the entire season and get
to the university you're going to be at and say,
I don't know, you know, maybe it's something that was
there along Dowa did this, that and the other, and
then the university covers that that injury, like I've heard

(07:29):
of that quite a bit. In fact, in terms of
college going into the pros. It could impact your you know,
your draft stock, your your stock altogether. And if it's
an injury that you can get through and it's not
like just readily easily detected and put into your medical report,

(07:53):
you do it so that you can get in. What's
the benefit of him taking this amount of time to
say my shoulder is sore. It could be or not
be a surgically repaired procedure that has to take place.
I don't is there a bonus? Is there? Is there

(08:14):
some type of workers comp Is there? What would be
the reasoning behind him waiting, because outside of knowing what
that would be, I don't know why it would even
be a big deal. Okay, he just figured out he's hurt. Okay,
if it was during season when he hurt his wrists,
got a concussion, Okay, it was doring season. I mean

(08:35):
there's two other injuries there, but he has this one
later on. Is it for his roster status? Like, what
would be the benefit of him holding out on saying
that his shoulder is sore.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
The only reason I'm skeptical of the whole story is
because also this offseason there was stuff that came out
that he wasn't happy about his contract status that before
they reworked his deal or whatever it was that he
was you know, he wanted to be traded like that
was stuff that had come out this offseason, and then

(09:10):
they rework his deal. He's going to be coming back,
He's going to be the quarterback, and he's got this
shoulder issue that pops up, and I just I wonder
if this is maybe a little bit like the Jimmy
Garoppolo situation with the Niners where he just decided I'm
gonna have I'm gonna have surgery and then they couldn't
move him and he just stayed on the roster. Like

(09:32):
I just it just feels like the off season has
been a little bit awkward. And that's why I'm like,
so you just like figured this out now, Like as
he started ramping up, I mean, yeah, who knows, you know, physically,
you know what he was feeling at that time. I
just wonder if maybe he was happier with his situation
from a contract status, if any of this would even

(09:53):
be in a discussion point.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, only he can answer that.
But like I said, it's not that uncommon for him
to discover it later on, and I think everyone wants
to avoid surgery. If he has surgery on it, he's
probably gonna miss a portion of the season, if not
a good portion of it. That's the hard part about
discovering in April and then dealing with it now in May.

(10:16):
And I guess, again, it's not that uncommon that he
would find some sort of soreness in there. It's uncomfortable,
or maybe it's still lingering. You know, who knows. If
he had throw the football in February March and thought, okay,
still a little so I'm gonna give it a break,
and then now we're getting into April, I like, man,
this is still bothering me, Like I need to get
this looked at again. There's something still that's going on here.

(10:39):
Again I'm having a lot of discomfort. Or as long
as he's played as many throws as he's made, there
could be some chronic things going on there in there too,
So you really don't know. But it's again, it's not
that bizarre to think that it took him this long
to discover it. The hard thing now is to figure
out how to go about handling it. Can he play

(10:59):
through it, and can he be the best player he
can be with dealing with it, and then the kind
of medicate it and pushed to twenty twenty six or
does he have to get surgery. If he has to
get surgery, it puts the team in a tough spot,
even though they drafted Tyler Schuck in the second round
and they've actually got you know, your guy there Jonas
the roster as well.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Yeah, that's the Rattlesnake. But that doesn't sound anything like
like Medusa's hate.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
That sounds like Rock the Rattler.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Yeah, if you if you were walking in a field
and you were listening for doing again Jonas, Yeah, if
you were listening for that, you'd get bit and you'd
probably if you'd have anyone else out there to help
you out, probably end up dying.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
So well, I don't know, maybe that's.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
His I think it's false advertisement. I think actually someone
so much. If someone out there gets bitten by Rattlesnake,
please please reach out to us and blame just Knox.
You can sue him if you'd like, for giving a
false impression of what a rattlesnake sounds like.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Well, let me tell you something. If it's underwhelming, it
matches the organization. They just hired their coach twenty minutes ago,
and they got a quarterback who's discussing his injury at
a church, so that I ought to tell you everything
that's going on in New Orleans with the Saints.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
That's mostly because apparently they you know, ESPN was discussing
it for him, which is odd.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
But I mean, yeah, they got a lot of players
questionable on their roster right now. Yeah, looking at.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
That, they're not in a great spot like this team
feels like for a new head coach to take this on,
and Kellen Moore, they are in a weird spot. Like
it said, it's an aging roster that needs to kind
of transition probably at some point, but I don't know
that they're there yet. Maybe this decision by Derek Carr,
if he does need surgery and depending on how much
time he'll miss, will lead them to have to having

(12:48):
to make that sort of decision where this is going
to be more of a rebuilding year.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
By the way, you mentioned, I'm not asking you for
the name. I mean if you want to give out
Twitter handle and jersey numb or whatever. But the quarterback
that you worked with in Arizona, So fifty throws and
a round of golf. Yeah, that's like knowing you he
worked No, no.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
He worked out before that, Like you'd come in and
work out and do what he needed to do, and
then after the workout he'd throw, you know, like about
fifty throws and he'd go go to the golf course. Okay.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Knowing Brady the way that I know him, if you
were to say, hey, you know you could have the
perfect day, just a you day, what would it be,
it would be workout, throw the ball around, round the golf.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
That's the sounds pretty good to me. Man at the end,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
So you know that guy was doing it right?

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah there, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
You're out there throwing four hundred balls, getting dead arm
in the middle of So you.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Throw a little espresso in there, a protein shake after
the workout and yeah, a couple uh. They called him
KFC's that's kind of the new Drigger choice outs kettle,
some fresca, splash, a Cran's delicious.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
Yeah, KFC, I'll switch from Popeyes let's go.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah, pop going straight Popeyes out of the two.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
What did you just say?

Speaker 4 (14:12):
What's the Popeyes?

Speaker 5 (14:14):
I don't know, but I'm switching to cass KFC.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
He went to Chicken. He immediately went to Chicken and
I went with him. So figure, man, is.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
This a is this a duplicate? Is this something that's
that should be where it's supposed to be in the rundown?
I'm just asking.

Speaker 6 (14:33):
You mean albur brew next? No, Lee, I know, oh,
I know what you're talking about. No, that is not
a TYPEO.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
That was Lee to Lap saying, Ay, Jonas, can you
take us to break talking about Albert Brewer on next?
Like that was that was saying.

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Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, Yeah, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox
Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knocks with you here.
Coming up next though, we are we are going to
find out, uh, exactly what went wrong for one player
in the NFL. That'll be yours right here at FSR.

Speaker 7 (15:38):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Albert Breer Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB,
also the star of Amazon's NFL All on Prime Coverage.
He is their insider and he is our insider every
Thursday on the show. Get him on x at Albert
Breer AB, Good morning. How are we feeling?

Speaker 3 (16:09):
How you doing?

Speaker 8 (16:10):
Guys? What's going on?

Speaker 3 (16:12):
We do not sound at all.

Speaker 8 (16:14):
Come, I was a little, a little I apologize.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Hey, Albert, Albert, just between me and you, don't worry.
Draftking still says that the Celtics are going to win
that series. The betting odds. Yeah, they're the favorite to
win that series.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Still so I.

Speaker 8 (16:34):
Mean, yeah, I uh, I don't know how much faith
I have when the game plan is constantly to launch
threes and screw up possessions at the end of regulation,
over time a half, whatever, whatever the situation.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
The NBA game Isn't that though, Albert, Isn't that the
NBA nowadays? Outside of the negative part.

Speaker 8 (16:54):
I really don't. I mean, I don't get it because
it's like I don't feel like any of its situational anymore.
I don't want to get a huge, like philosophical debate here,
but like, like I don't get like, when you're up
twenty to keep watching threes when you're not hitting them,
you know what I mean? Like, it's like, shouldn't you
just be trying to, like, I don't know, close the

(17:14):
game out, you know what I mean? Like, isn't the
I mean, if the if the goals to score one
hundred and forty points, then yeah, maybe, like you keep
watching three the goal is to win the game. Shouldn't
you adjust your strategy, especially if they're not going down
for you? It doesn't make any sense to me. It
just feels like everything is a math problem now and again,

(17:35):
we can we have a larger discussion about that. But
you know, it's it's it's frustrating to watch for sure.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
All Right, So let's ask you about this what exactly
went wrong between George Pickens and Mike Tomlin and Pittsburgh,
because it does feel like when they decide to move
away from wide receivers, it's a telling sign.

Speaker 8 (17:56):
It sure is. I mean, I think you look at
the history of it. Obviously, Artavius Bryant and uh, you know,
and and and Juji Smith Schuster and Antonio Brown and
Quick Chase Claypool. There's a ton of history Mike Wallace
guys that weren't nearly as productive when they left Pittsburgh
as they were when they were Steelers. And you know,

(18:18):
I think one of the things that Mike is really Mike,
She's really good at is being able to reach people,
and it's allowed the Steelers to cast a wide nett
talent wise, they can take chances on guys other teams
can't because Mike's so good in that area. So it's
always to me like a red flag when when the
Steelers are ready to walk away from a guy. There

(18:40):
is some explanation here, though, I think a big part
of it is he's going into a contract here, They're
probably not going to give me a huge contract, and
they're bringing DK Metcalf who's also an ex receiver, so
there's a little bit of a redundancy there. And you know,
if you look at two guys who do a lot
of the same things, you know, you're sort of projecting

(19:00):
forward and you're looking at it and I think you're saying, Okay, so,
like this is going to eat into George Pickens production,
into his role. How is he going to accept that?
And what's that going to look like in October and
November when he's playing for life changing money and we're
not giving it to him, you know. And I think
that's a huge part of it, and that's a nuanced
the whole thing that I don't think very many people

(19:20):
are paying attention to. And that, by the way, could
be a problem Dallas too, you know, because you know
you've got an established number one receiver there in Cdee Lamb,
who's a volume player, like who's you know, had over
one hundred catches several times, and who you're going to
get the ball to a lot as you should because
he's one of the best receivers in football, and so

(19:43):
you know, like for Dallas, you know, it's going to
be easy for everybody to say the right things at OTAs,
at MIDI camp and training camp. But where the rubber
hits the road is like when you get October and
November and you know Dak Prescott's going to Ceedee Lamb
in the big spots and you know, maybe George Pickens
has it two or three week stretch where he has
four yards, then he has thirty five yards, and he

(20:04):
has six yards. How are you going to handle that?
You know, I think that's all part of the equation here,
and you know, it's certainly something I think that that
played in the Pittsburgh's willingness to move on, and also,
you know, I think is part of what Dallas is
going to be faced with and trying to get the
most out of a very very talented player, Albert.

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Let's stay with the Pittsburgh steals here. What the hell's
happening at the quarterback position? I mean, they've got to
be all in on Rogers or Bust at this point.

Speaker 8 (20:31):
Yeah, Mason Rudolph is happening at quarterback right now. Yeah,
they're trying to as my read on the whole thing, Brady.
If they feel confident about where they are. I don't
know one way or the other whether they have a
hard assurance from Aaron, but I know they feel good
about it, and you know, obviously, and then the next

(20:54):
question would be, well, why don't you just sign him then?
And I think part of it is, you know, out
of respect for the personal stuff that Aaron's referenced. And
I think for both sides it's like okay, like you
could do a contract now, you know, but then if
he's not there for for OTAs, for different phases of
the off season program, then that's going to be hanging

(21:15):
for both sides, like when does he show up?

Speaker 9 (21:19):
You know?

Speaker 8 (21:19):
So I and I don't think like retirement's totally out
of the equation. I you know, if if things go
away in Minnesota, could they revisit I mean, I think
like that's the thing is, like there's so much some
of the loose ends like just sitting out there now.
But I think that the Steelers for right now are
trying to respect the situation that that that Aaron Rodgers
is in. And you know, I certainly think that Aaron

(21:42):
Rodgers is a little leery to feel tied down to
anything until all the stuff in his personal life as resolved.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Abe, I want to switch to another AFC North team
and another quarterback situation, and and kind of I oppose
this question to the fellas earlier, and I'll be curious
to get your take on it. In a draft and
on a team, if you have two guys, so we
we've all agreed to eliminate one quarterback, all right, you

(22:11):
eliminate Deshaun Watson from the conversation. He's not going to
be a part of it. You bring in two free
agents and Picket and Flacco, and then you draft one
in the third, and then you draft one in the fifth,
taking all names out of the draft and just saying
you drafted one in the third, you drafted one in

(22:31):
the fifth, and you brought in two free agents in
the same offseason. What do you think the likelihood and
just every year operation of business, would it be plausible
to think that that fifth round quarterback will be on
that roster or even on the practice squad come come season?

(22:54):
And do you think that there will be a difference?
Because I feel like I know what you're going to say.
Is this different because of the name? When you attach
the name to the fifth rounder.

Speaker 8 (23:06):
I mean, I think we've already seen it different, right, Like,
so it is different because of the name. That's that's
that goes without saying there's like strings attacks that wouldn't
be attached with a if you know she do hers
last name was Smith. That's just what it is, you know,
And so like I I think, you know, just the
challenges ahead are real, you know, for Kevin Stefanski and

(23:29):
his coaching staff, And I think the first one is
coming right away, which is how do you divvy up
the reps? How do you create the right opportunity for
everybody because I think with four quarterbacks on the roster,
the rules the way they are now about what you
can do in the spring, what you can do in
the summer, you know. I think, you know, for a
lot of teams, like the spring is about teaching them

(23:50):
the summers about competition. Well, I think for the Browns
they have to get a read on on on how
their quarterbacks stack up and at least have a working
pecking order going into the summer just to be fair
to the rest of the team, you know, because you
can't have the entire training camp be about like okay,
like this is going to be a four man quarterback race,

(24:10):
Like you can't let that consume training camp. So I
think you have to have an idea of where you're at,
like at the end of the off season program in
the middle of June, and then split the work up
when you get to the summer based on that. And
the easy thing to do would be to say, well,
all right, like let's take Joe out of the equation
for right now, Joe, You've already played for Kevin. But

(24:31):
you think Joe Bloco is going to sign up for that,
you know, I mean based on his own desire to
win the job, and you know the fact that he's
going to be working with a new offensive coordinator that
he doesn't know there and Tommy Reese. Does he really
want to sit there and let the other guys get
the leg up on him when he knows that it
wouldn't cost a team anymore to walk away from him

(24:53):
and release him at the end of camp than a
wake Kenny Pickett. So you know, if you're Joe, you're
probably going to want to get the reps too. So,
like I think it's it's a tricky situation for everyone
involved and you know they're gonna have to be creative
and and finding a way to get a real read
on where the rookies are. And you know, then even
like I mean, on another level, when you get to
the to the end of camp and you know you're

(25:14):
you're getting closer to the cutdown, you know, I think
you have to assess, okay, like if Chador or Dylan
Gabriel aren't your starter or either if I'm ready to
be your primary backups, and if they are, then do
you walk away from the veteran who doesn't win the
starting job? And if they aren't, does that mean you're
keeping four quarterbacks? Or you're cutting one of the rookies?

(25:36):
Can you sneak one of the rookies to the practice squad?
It's because you normally, like a third round pick, I
mean generally a third round pick makes the team. You know,
a third round pick generally isn't going to be cut.
A fifth round pick could be cut. Are you cutting
Shador then?

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Correct?

Speaker 8 (25:48):
It's just complicated in so many different ways, you know.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
That's what I'm saying. So if you take the name
out of it, chances are you're cutting the fifth rounder.
Like that's a strong chance that the fifth rounder is
getting cut if you take the names.

Speaker 8 (26:01):
Out of it, LeVar I would say, if you just
look at this situation logistically, I think you would say
shadu Or has to beat out one of the veterans
first spot on the roster.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Right, And much like what anybody else would face you
and what you're saying, you're not going to get enough
reps to be able to do that that. It just
doesn't seem feasible that a fifth rounder is going to
get with four quarterbacks. It doesn't seem like they're going
to get enough reps to do.

Speaker 8 (26:30):
That, which is why, like, it's not weird that they
took Shador in the fifth round. It's weird that they
took on Gabriel in the third round and then took
Shador in the fifth round.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
You know, that's correct.

Speaker 8 (26:43):
It's not strange that you would take a flyer on
chad Or. It's strange that you would take a flyer
on after you already spent a pack.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
I already took a quarterback. That's that's what I'm thinking too.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
By the way, historical data tells us that approximately fifty
to six percent a fifth round picks will make the
NFL roster in their first year. Boom just stat position.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Again, I still think that's based off the position.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
I think that we need to argue about this. We're
on the same page. We know we LeVar made a
very clear indication he doesn't think Shador is going to
be on the team come Week one of next year
in any capacity, practice, squad or ross.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
He's put that out there. So I want to touch
on what you just said though there, Albert, because you
said it's odd though that they draft him the fifth
round after they took one in the third, and given
the veterans that are both there, who made the decision then?
Because help me understand, help Browns fans understand if you're
going to take one of the third after you already
added two, one via trade, one veteran you signed that's

(27:41):
already been there, and you've kind of got the Deshaun
Watson thing lingering, even though he's not going to be
back for this year, Like, who made the decision then
to then draft Shador and add that to the mix.

Speaker 8 (27:54):
I don't know exactly who pulled the trigger on it.
I know what the looks on the faces of the
guys who are in that draft room were when the
when the pick was made. I mean, look, like I
think sometimes these things can work different ways, you know
what I mean? Like, I think it's notable too. And
this is a point that I don't I don't hear
a lot of people making it was their last pick,

(28:16):
and I think that that's relevant too, don't you guys
like they didn't have another pick after that fifth rounder?
So look, I it does make you wonder it's like,
all right, well we have to take him at some point,
you know what I mean? Like, so like I you know,
it could be I mean, you know, obviously Jimmy's history
is what it is, but like then there's also like

(28:37):
the piece of it, like where it's like if you
know that's what your owner wants, like and your owner
has been pushing it, but he's not specifically saying you
have to take them. I mean, do you kind of
feel cornered and it's like okay, like well let's just
do it here. You know, it could be something like
that too. So I don't know exactly, I don't know
the ins and outs of whether or not, like this
code red was ordered, but you know, I can't say

(28:59):
it didn't have.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Either Albert Breer. Uh So, I'm curious based on everything
that we know this off season, because I feel like
there's been too much negativity here on shad Or Sanders
and all the other standing lines. If you had to
right now, say now that free agency has done for
the most part, there's still some names out there, but
now that it's done for the most part, now that

(29:21):
the draft is done, coaches have been hired. Which team
do you think has had the best off season?

Speaker 8 (29:31):
I would, you know, I think New England's had a
really good off season with you know what they've been
able to do around around Mike Rabel and you know,
going and getting a bunch of guys. I think a
lot like the Commander's offseason last year, where they they
brought in a lot of guys that had connections to
the coaching staff. Morgan Moses was with Todd Downing in
New York. You know, Robert Splaine was with Josh McDaniels

(29:55):
in Vegas. Obviously, got a couple of Rabel guys there.
They come over from Tennessee, guys like you know, Harold
Andry so like there are definitely I think a lot
of moves that the pagers made on top of the
bigger moves like Steph Diggs and and uh and and
Milton Williams, where you look at it and you say, okay,

(30:18):
like there there's some certainty there. They know what they're
getting because they've been with those guys before. The other
the other team I really liked was was Chicago, and
I just I think fortifying the offensive line in front
of a front of Caleb Williams and really like fortifying
both fronts, you know, and doing.

Speaker 9 (30:34):
What they did and you know, going and getting you know,
Dio Oda yingbo from from from Indianapolis and Grady j
from Atlanta for their defensive line, and then the offensive line,
you know, being able to land three new starters and.

Speaker 8 (30:50):
Jonah Jackson, Joe Tooney and Andrew Dolman. Yeah, I just
think like that's a good way to sure that you're
going to be in every game. Like if if you're
strong on the lines of scrimmage, chances are you're going
to be able to have some control over the games
you're playing in, and you're the very going to give
you a chance to be in every game, and you're
going to get a clean rate at who your rookie

(31:11):
quarterback is going to be who your who? Your who
your quarterback. You're now second your quarterback can grow into
the being and uh and yeah at Colston level in
there too. So I like Chicago and New England. Obviously,
both those teams had a long way to go coming
from where they were last year, but I think both
teams had really solid offseasons.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
There is get him on X at Albert Breer. He
is the senior NFL reporter lead content strategist at the
m m QB. You can also see his work during
the season on Amazon, NFL on Prime and by the way,
keep keep your head up again, Ab, the Celtics are
favored to win that series. I just want a friendly reminder.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Because I know you were. You were wearing it a little.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
Bit on social media.

Speaker 8 (31:50):
How do you feel about it?

Speaker 2 (31:52):
I mean, I think they're I think they're going to win.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
But LaVar's killing off everyone.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, LeVar is the undertaker this week.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Yeah, demoralizing Victna loss is demoralizing out of there.

Speaker 8 (32:09):
What happened on Saturday night. I think days to think
about it now, so we'll see.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
It happen they do, all right, all right, we'll do
it again next week. There are Albert there this year
on Fox Sport training Ohio State. Yeah, he's fine.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
There's always Ohio State. You know, he's got He's got Ohio.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
State, which fund I think they were in some poll
they were voted most toxic fan base recently.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Fans.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, there was some pole that was out there.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Well, that was coming off of the h The admission
from a was a Tennessee fan who apparently a hot
day fans told their five year old kid something about
Santa Claus. I believe that didn't go over.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Well, that's not very nice.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
All right.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Coming up next here, we are going to we are
going to have another edition of Lee's Leftovers right here
on FSR.

Speaker 7 (33:04):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
You need Bro on everything like you need like serious help, man.
We'll be talking about interventions for Lee. There might need
to be a need for Jonah's intervention.

Speaker 7 (33:29):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
I'm telling you you need help. Bro.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Damn, you're preaching the choir here. I've said it for
a while with the Jonas it.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Is let's say a prayer for you two times today
and one hell Mary and I don't even.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Know Jonas knocks h it is Two Pros and a
cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn Johnson stealing.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
All my stuff, by the way, bro, like, stop stealing
my bits. Brouh God, Lee, can I live? It worked
really hard to create my bits. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
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Speaker 1 (34:29):
These might smell a little funk so incredible, but they're
still good. Time to find out what's laugh? It's Lee's laugh,
all right.

Speaker 8 (34:40):
The laugh?

Speaker 1 (34:40):
What do we got?

Speaker 3 (34:40):
And he's gonna tell us about everything? But Lee, come on.

Speaker 6 (34:46):
Lee, guys, I did it again. You gotta keep me
away from the pool with the glass I talked. Oh no,
I was cognizant of it. I was like Okay, there's
a beer. I'm gonna hold it way over here, away.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
From the pool.

Speaker 5 (34:59):
And there was a Victor by the way, Victoria Victoria beer.
I don't know if you've had that. It's a cervesa
logger with.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
A new friends.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Yeah, yeah, you know Vicky.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (35:13):
No.

Speaker 6 (35:13):
It was just a long long neck, long neck, six
six pack, long neck, some glass.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Long neck, Willie, long neck Victoria.

Speaker 5 (35:25):
So I popped off the top and the it just shattered.

Speaker 6 (35:28):
It shattered the entire rim of the of the top
of the beer glass everywhere.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
I don't understand. How did you shatter it? So I
popped off the top. How with like a lighter or something.

Speaker 5 (35:40):
Yeah, well, usually I would use a lighter.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
I didn't.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
It wasn't with a lighter. It was actually with a
shot of tequila. What do you mean have you ever
seen me open a beer? It's uh, you could I
could use anything.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
I mean, you got one in studio. Why don't we
just see it here?

Speaker 6 (35:53):
Well, it's like I could use anything to pop to
pop the top off, and you just put it under
and then you pop it off.

Speaker 3 (35:59):
Just leverage it off, leverage it off. But how did
you break it? Lee it?

Speaker 6 (36:04):
Because Victoria uses such cheap glass. Oh wow, that it
just like exploded. Oh wow, where did you get the
beer from from?

Speaker 8 (36:14):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (36:14):
Well, it wasn't prestige.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
It was the where was the what did you check
the like the born on date of the beer? That
sounds like a beer bottle that was created in the thirties.
That's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 6 (36:23):
I don't think anybody really buys Victoria very often, so
I think it was an old bottle.

Speaker 5 (36:28):
Or just cheap glass, cheaply used glass. It was brown glass.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
So you couldn't drink yesterday because of that.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
Oh no, I still drink.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
Okay, Well, what happened to the hot crop? Well happened
to all the glass going into the hot top? Did
you just act like it didn't happen?

Speaker 8 (36:43):
Well?

Speaker 6 (36:44):
No, So I was far away from the pool because
I was actually thinking about that. It was over in
the corner in the yard by in the courtyard by
the pool.

Speaker 5 (36:51):
But I came out and I swept it all up.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
He's a sweeping So you you basically materialize that in
your thoughts? What's that called? You? You manifested that.

Speaker 5 (37:05):
Kind of did yeah?

Speaker 6 (37:05):
Manifest like like you ever like speed and you're like oh,
this would be the worst time for a cop to
show up. And then of course you see one on
the side of the road right then and there you manifested, Brady.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
What would you say is would be the best way
to avoid breaking a beer during the week if you,
you know, are gainfully employed and working double duty, like
during the week, what would you say is the best way.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
To Why would you why would you ask me this?

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Just like like, what would you say would be the
best way to avoid having that?

Speaker 4 (37:38):
To avoid it? Well, you just wouldn't drink, like you
don't even touch the bio during the wark week. I
mean like most people would say, like, hey, I can
make it till the weekend. Let me just take off
Monday through really Friday, and so I get the happy
hour and then I can go enjoy it and then
I've got you know, Friday, Saturday, Sunday beverages.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
Yeah, or you could enjoy your time off by the pool.
You just have a beer drinking responsible Lee?

Speaker 4 (38:03):
Did you just have one beer yesterday?

Speaker 5 (38:05):
I had about two or three beers?

Speaker 4 (38:07):
And then what else did you have? It had to
have been a shot involved, maybe a beat box.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
Well, I did give away that I used a shot
to open up the beer. So yeah, that was about it.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
No beat box, yeah, alright, no beatbox? All right? What
else did you drink along the course of that? It
was delivery Wednesday.

Speaker 5 (38:21):
No, but no delivery Wednesday for me.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Yesterday I smoked a hookah yesterday. Hell yeah, gus poolside too.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
There you go to break the hookah.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
So there you go. Uh. It was what berry berry meant.
It was good, nice, It was very good. It's going
to get hot out here the next couple of days.
So yeah, today or yesterday was the start of it.
Today is going warm up a whole lot. I'm excited.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
What was your total tally from yesterday?

Speaker 6 (38:53):
Three beers in a shot and then two b two
burgers and two burgers in a steak.

Speaker 5 (38:56):
That was where I went wrong. I ate way too much.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Day.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
Yeah, we were barbecued by the pool.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
What do you enjoy, chestnut? Who eats two burgers in
a steak?

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Lar? No? Not the last lo No, it was more
than three bears.
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