May 22, 2025 • 39 mins
The guys look back on the legacy of Jim Irsay who passed away at age 65. NFL Insider Albert Breer gives a behind the scenes look in to the Tush Push Ban vote and more from the NFL Owners Meetings. Plus, Cauliflower Ear, Weinermobiles and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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the way up until the end of this hour at
nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. For those of
you that that did go to bed, we're not aware. Yes,
the Pacer won that game last night, somehow, some way,
The Indiana Pacers won that game last night, which you
know that's gotta be look up. That's why you gotta
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That's why I look up.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
What at the screen? Oh you're not Friday screen. No
you're not front of.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
The I was reading about des Bryant. I'm going to rescue.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Oh yeah, that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
You know, everybody likes to weigh in on things that
maybe catches uh you know, catches momental men and mainstream media.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I guess you know, but you know, this is what
it is.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
I guess I didn't realize that a topic such as
this would become such a big, big, major deal. I mean, God,
Lee bro, where we're at in our relations that way
has deteriorated so quickly and turned into such it's such
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weird old business anymore. But whatever. It would have been
much better if you could have saw what I was
doing versus me having to send you a photo.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
You know. It's kind of funny, though.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Is that a burner? That that's the best best complment
I've ever gotten? Yeah? I got shot up too, literally,
So yeah, this is you know, look, wild night for
the Indiana Pacers, especially coming off the heel, and for
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Indianapolis Sportsman coming off the heels. Of the news of
Jim Mersey's passing and so now so it is I'm
assuming that because he took over the team from his dad,
and I'm assuming this stays in the family and.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
He doesn't have any kids, does it he does have offspring, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
He's got three daughters.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
So the three daughters will each takeover equal portion of
the team running it. They have joined the organization, so
they've been in this role. However, they only get one
vote and when it comes down to acting as the owner,
it stated that maybe they'll rotate that responsibility, maybe not.
It's just I mean, look, there's been other organizations that
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have had you know, members of the family inherent teams,
and it's there sometimes becomes points for those conflicts. I mean,
for example, not saying that I know this or anything else.
I'm not even trying to speculate here, but if Jim
Mersey was in the position last season where his help
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was declining and he was contemplating making a decision on
Chris Ballot, which was a lot of the talk and
conversation based on how the.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Season had gone. You know, they haven't won the division.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
I don't believe since Chris Ballard has taken over as
general manager, and Shane Steichen hasn't been there long if
as a head coach where there's as much pressure on him.
So there was a thought and reportedly so, that maybe
they would move on from Chris Ballard but keep Shane Styking.
And I think, you know, part of I assume someone
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when they're in a position where they feel like their
life's coming to an end or they're not, you know,
they're battling through a lot of adversity, is he probably
didn't want to have one of his last big decisions
that he makes as owner of the team's firing a guy,
especially guy who's been there, who's you know, dug in
roots with him and his family, I'm sure who he
developed a great rapport with, and that.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Could be a really tough thing. And I do wonder,
you know, how.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
His personal situation and his health was maybe factoring into
the lack of a decision made at the end of
the season, but also moving forward, you know how that's
going to work for his three daughters, is maybe they
amongst the three of them, can have a vote, you know,
two against one majority of rules, or is there gonna
be one stronger voice that kind of steps up and
ends up acting as the owner amongst the three of them.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I think in those these types of scenarios, work together,
work together, figure it out, because the business is most
likely what's more important in the end than anything else.
Stick together, agree together, disagree together, even if you guys
don't fall on the same page. It's so funny, timely,
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timely point because I've been having this conversation with my
own kids, you know, them all being here home from
from for break from college for a couple of minutes,
just having that conversation of as you get older, you
start to realize things are going to continue to change
and evolve. Uh, and you just got to stay, you know,
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connected to one of another. You got to stay getting
to know one another and you know, building building that
admiration for one another and what you represent and how
hard you work. You don't have to believe in exactly
the same things or agree on every single thing. You're
going to have differences, but always make sure that the
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well being and the support for one another is there first.
Don't ever let outside forces, you know, ever separate you.
And sometimes that may be like an understated lesson to
teach your your kids as they grow. When they're younger,
it's you know, don't fight, don't fight, don't fight, you know,
and and and get along with one another, and take
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care of your your younger brother or take care of
your younger sister. Always make sure you protect them Da
da dad, so and so forth. But as they get
older and you start to realize that now you know,
society and life is beginning to mold them just as
much as you know what they have going on, you
start to realize how important your influence is on on
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your children as as like young adults, and how important
those conversations and reinforcement of what you guys represent to
one another. So you know, if you don't, if your
bonds of love and respect and admiration for one another
aren't strong, they'll be ultimately, you know, broken apart by
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outside sources, whether it's husbands, boyfriends, you know, business opportunities, whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
It may be.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Right, death in a family so hopefully you know, as
as a legacy to the ursa family obviously, uh it
being passed down from generation to generation. And Jim, you know,
being being one of the guys that that is in
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that that line of what is its succession that these
three daughters will will take it seriously and make sure
that you know, whatever decisions are being made as Colts
representatives and ownership, that they settle into being just that
and that they stay on the same page even if
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they're not agreeing with one another.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
One Ersa was a GM at twenty five years old.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Yeah, it's pretty incredible, Like, can.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
You imagine at twenty five years old, Hey, you're going
to be the GM of this team. When when he
took it over from his dad because he wasn't he
passed away at sixty five.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
He wasn't.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
It's not like he was an old man. So, but
that's an incredible run.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Man.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
He worked in every department, he was a GM owner,
you know, won a Super Bowl. Like, they had some
good times in Indy.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
So, by the way I said, it's Carli Ers, Gordon,
Casey Foyd, and Kailn Jackson are his three daughters.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
But looking over that run, if.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
You think about it, like from nineteen ninety nine to
twenty fourteen, Colts made fourteen playoffs appearances.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
They won ten division titles in that span.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
They appeared in four AFC title games, two Super Bowls,
winning that one two thousand and six, and that's their
first since the organization moved from Baltimore, which is pretty significant.
Now we kind of cut it off from that like
twenty fourteen, because when you think about the legacy.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
He left behind, not just what he meant with.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
The organization in Indianapolis or Colts fans, you think about too,
the quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
That he was able to you know, draft and pick
up and whether it was.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
You know, Harbaugh and Manning obviously you know, had a
Hall of Fame career there, I mean just alone. You know,
he goes to Denver and has again maybe you'd a
Hall of Fame career too, and that's short window.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
But I mean he had his Hall of Fame career.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
As a Colt at least in my opinion, that's kind
of what I remember the most. But then Andrew Luck
it was very much on that path and decided to
stop playing football. You know, probably before a lot of
us thought he was who was going to before he'd
be a guy you talk about being in the Hall
of Fame and because of stopping short, you know, I
don't think it's going to be there for him. But
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think about how different too, the Colts organization and what
it would look like had Andrew Lux stayed there. I
don't think it's far fetched they say, like, maybe they
make a Super Bowl appearance, maybe they win another one.
You know, he was that good of a player and
they were that much more of a competitive team as
compared to since that time they have been in a
constant state of turnover at the quarterback spot.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
And trying to answer that question, and it's just it's
tough that, you know, that's.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
Unfortunately how things went because if not, you know, you're
looking at a team that you know would have been
competitive in the AFC, you know, since that that period
of time, and maybe we're talking about saying with a
couple of Super Bowls and his legacy is a little
bit different.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
By the way, I forgot about the AFC title game.
I know, var you remember this when the Colts almost
beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh. It was when the Steelers
went to the Super Bowl and lost to the Cowboys,
but it was that AFC title game. I think it
was that three rivers and Jim Harbaugh through that Hail
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Mary at the end that bounced around and they almost
caught it. They had that one. They also had the
Steelers Colts playoff game where Jerome Bettis fumbled the ball
and Ben Roethlisberger tripped up. I forget who it was. Like,
There's been some great moments between not only the Colts
and Steelers, but the Colts and big time playoff games
for a long time. But Jim Mercay at the home.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
You know, I do remember that game. I believe I
remember that game. Wasn't Harball was Harball.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
It was the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting and just another story just
kind of touching on, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
The legacy play of it all.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
He learned the business from the ground up and he
was a part of it. And this is something that
I experienced when I was in New York and saw
how the grandkids were handling things, you know, on the
day to day, real ground level type of responsibilities from
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helping be you know, with the players with their lockers
and organizing the lockers and stuff like that, to you
name it, odds and ends jobs of what took place
in learning what it's all about until it's your time
to take over the operation. And that's exactly what Jim
Ursay did during the course of his time growing up
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before becoming the GM of the team. So you know,
to me, there would be no surprise. I know in
past we've we've made jokes about him being, you know,
the lead singer of his band and you know the
tree leaner Tree Leaners.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
And the youth was doing that.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Well, that's fine, I'll take it. I'll definitely take it.
I stand on it. I mean, I'll put my ten
toes down and put that flag in the ground that
I definitely might have led the way on making fun
of the singing group. But you know where you're because
of what's happened to him. You take a look and
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a little bit of an inventory on who he was
and what he's done, and just at a glance, you
know it was done the right way.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
You know, you learn it from the ground up.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
You learn it from the multiple sides of what the administratives,
administrative duties are. You know that that dovetails into you know,
team operations, different things like that, and lo and behold,
by the time you get to a certain age like
twenties twenty five, stuff like that, you're in position to
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actually be elevated into a role of more significance.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And you know, people aren't. I'm sure people were going.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
To have issues with it, But at the end of
the day, whether you want to call it nepotism or not,
the bottom line is is that this is the American
dream persona fied. You build something, you create something, it's
person on f and then you teach your children, your offspring,
how the business works, and they make an active decision
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do they want to play a part in it? Do
they want to have a role in it or do
they not? And if you do, you go through the
proper channels and the proper development to become that. So,
you know, having this take place gives you the opportunity
to kind of take a pause, stop and look at
a person for the person that they are.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I don't know them.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
I don't know him personally, never met him, so I
don't know what type of person he was. I'm not
gonna lit him for being this great person because I
don't know him, but I'm certainly not going to take
shots at him either. So it seems as though he's
got a pretty strong legacy. Did get Peyton Manning, you know,
and had that, did have Andrew Luck has had some
success before he checked up out of here. So I
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guess those are the things you should focus in on.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Yeah, well yeah, I mean you don't want to sleep
on the success that you have with the quarterbacks on that.
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Yeah out of there h Two Pros and a Cup
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Knox with you. So coming up next here, we're gonna
find out what actually went down at these owner meetings
in Minnesota and who got real testy with the Philadelphia
Eagles just running a muck there while having conversations about
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Right now, though, we turn it over to Albert Breer,
a senior NFL reporter lead content strategist at the MMQB.
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You also see his work during the season on Amazon
Prime as our NFL insider AB. Good morning, how are
we feeling?
Speaker 8 (16:18):
Good morning, guys, how we doing good?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
So?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
What can you tell us about this feisty conversation that
was had about the tush push in Minnesota? Jeffrey Lourie
reportedly comparing it to a teenage boy's wet dream, YadA YadA, Yeah,
like all the stuff that came out. What can you
tell us about what went into them not approving the
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banning of the tush push?
Speaker 8 (16:44):
Well, the first thing I would tell you them sick
of talking about.
Speaker 9 (16:46):
It, But just for you guys, I'll go ahead and
talk about it one more time. Yeah, you know, I
think guys like the this got so complicated and so
just wound up and different agendas and everything else over
the last four months. I think that sort of became
the problem, Like the discussion, the issue itself became a
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problem onto itself, and that really started, you know, I
think going back to March, when you know, the Eagles
really felt like they had been targeted and they were
hearing two different explanations on why this needed to be
taken out.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Of the game. On one side, you had the other.
Speaker 9 (17:21):
Teams and the other team saying that this is a
rugby play, it's not a football player. And then you
had the league saying it's a health and safety matter,
So which is it? And you know, when the Eagles
challenged the two those two groups, they didn't get answers
they thought were satisfactory, and some of the teams, the
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other teams that were concerned, looked at it and said, well,
it's way too narrow the way the packers initially wrote it,
and it does look like it's like it's targeting the Eagles.
So they went back they rewrite it based on the
two thousand and four rule, which was no pushing or
pulling of an offensive teammate period. And the end that
winds up including some other plays that some other teams
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didn't want outlawed, like you know, effort plays.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
Down the field. I did one team say to me,
we don't want to legislate effort.
Speaker 9 (18:10):
So they wound up being a no because they felt
like alignment coming downfield twenty yards and helping his teammate
over a line shouldn't be illegal. So it's just I
think it got so tied up and so complicated, and
I think too many people took their eyes off the
ball on this one. And I think to some degree
you saw yesterday, like in that meeting room, I can
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tell you it sort of became personal, and I think
that that's why in the end it didn't wind up passing.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
I have so many questions in that regard, but it
didn't pass because those twenty two to ten, they need
twenty four votes. Do you foresee this like being tabled
but potentially change it in the future. Then there's all
those kinds of nuances in different conversations we could have
about the rule, for example, like aligning running downfield, Well,
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you don't have to carry the across the line.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
You can go block the guy that's trying to tackle.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Him, right, Like That's how it's always been back when
that rules in place.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
But I digress.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
The point is, does like we'll just get enough momentum
or is it just kind of dead now where it's
just going to be the same, you know, and we're
going to the touch push moving forward?
Speaker 9 (19:19):
Well, I mean, I I would tell you Brady, we
have two hundred and seventy two games between now and
the next time, well, two hundred.
Speaker 8 (19:25):
And eighty five.
Speaker 9 (19:25):
I guess it'd be a cool playoffs two or eighty
five games between now and the next time. They talk
about this, and none of us know what's going to happen, right, Like, so.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
So if an injury happens, do you think that that's
for all the guys who voted against it, they're like, hey,
here it is.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
It's a safety issue.
Speaker 8 (19:42):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you have that.
Speaker 9 (19:43):
There's that part of it, you know what I mean, Like,
which is like if there's an injury, that might change
the dynamic for some people, you know, if teams get
more effective at stopping it, and like the Eagles aren't
running it anymore in week six, Week seven, week eight,
whatever it is beca could become a non issue. That's
not to you know what I mean, Like I just
I think it's hard to predict where we're going with
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this because we do have again, like two hundred and
eighty five football games between now and the next time
they'll talk about it, and I think that'll kind of
mark where the discussion goes. I mean, I just again, like,
I think this this, this got to the point where
it really, it really did become personal between the Eagles
and some other teams. And I think that's why you're
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sitting here, like and more of the news now is
about what happened in that room rather than the mechanics
of play, And I think it's sort of indicative of
how this conversation in general has gotten out of hand
over the last three or four months.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Aby you've been in media for quite some time. How
long would you say you've you've been in media for.
Speaker 9 (20:50):
Well, this may be my twenty first year covering the NFL,
and it covered high school sports before that, So whatever
that number is.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Oh, yeah, I'm agree gone to that process exactly.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Yeah, And so you've seen a lot of things in
the industry kind of evolve and develop, and you know,
just turning into what it is now, what's your take
on like where media personalities are right now. I Mean,
it just seems like every time I turn around, there's
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somebody in our media that has has beef. And then
I guess the reason why I'm asking you that right now,
AB is because the latest one being RG three and
Ryan Clark, which are two former guys that you've covered. Like,
do you ever, like, you know, take inventory on where
the media game is right now? What's your like curious
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from you being a vet, what's your.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Take on it?
Speaker 8 (21:50):
It's kind of funny because like one of the persons
to teach you in journalism school is don't make yourself
a story, you know, and that.
Speaker 9 (21:58):
Like the people that you cover are the story of
That's changed over the years, is all this stuff has
become more personality driven and everything else. But yeah, i'd
also say, like, for you know, my job, you know,
it's interesting. My job is much different than like like
what a former professional athlete like Ryan Clark or Robert
Griffin's job is.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
Like if my job is to report.
Speaker 9 (22:20):
On this stuff, my job is to take people behind
closed doors and tell them stuff they don't already know, and.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
And and and educate.
Speaker 9 (22:27):
Them and you know, like for for former athletes to
give opinions is to analyze the game on a level
that you know, like that that that that the general
public like wouldn't wouldn't that the level knowledge they wouldn't
have just by watching, you know. I think the commonality
is like for all of us are our our jobs
are to entertain and too and to give people something
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that they.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
Can't get anywhere else.
Speaker 9 (22:52):
And you know, I will say that it's like, I mean,
for better or worse, like those sorts of beefs, those
sorts the fights always have legs.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
I mean, it's not just the ex athletes.
Speaker 9 (23:04):
You guys, remember the showdown at Starbucks in Indianapolis and
those guys, those guys weren't athletes competing there. So I
don't know the American public. Like the more I've done this, guys,
the more it's like it's like a middle school, like
you know, like cafeteria. Like you know, anytime anybody sniffs
any sort of fight or be for whatever, it's like,
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ooh did you hear what he said about you?
Speaker 8 (23:28):
And off we go.
Speaker 9 (23:29):
So uh so, yeah, I'd say, I'd say, like how
it relates to the way we do our jobs, Like
I don't think anybody was taught to do their job
that way, you know what I mean when it comes
to being in the media, whether it's just an ex
athlete or a journalist. You know, but on the other hand,
the general public sure can't get enough of it.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get
him on x at. Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, lead
content strategist at the MMQB Amazon NFL on Prime Insider.
Got to ask you also, at these meetings, apparently the
Lions pulled back their idea that was kind of they
were coursed into putting together about reseting the playoffs. What
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went behind that not getting anywhere? Because it feels like
a no brainer. We kind of had a debate about it.
I know, some of us felt one way, some of
us felt the other. Why did that ultimately not even
make a conversation or two at the meetings this week?
Speaker 9 (24:27):
I mean, the easy answer this just flat out wasn't
enough support for it, right Like, so there were only
about a handful of teams that were willing to vote
for it in March. The commissioner wants it, that League
office wants it, so you know, they table it to
May hoping that they can drum up some more support,
But I don't think anybody was under the illusion that
it was going to pass at this meeting. I think
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this is more about setting up the discussion for twenty
twenty six and maybe more poignantly whenever they go to
eighteen games. You know, it was interesting because I like,
I think a big part of this for the league
has been how do we make week seventeen Week eighteen
more compelling because you have more teams now Resting guys
like the Rams.
Speaker 8 (25:09):
Were rewarded for it last year, like they.
Speaker 9 (25:12):
Could have been the third or the fourth seed. They
had something to play for a week eighteen, and Sean
McVay prioritized rest over getting the third seed, and then
he wound up being rewarded for it, right like, because
they came out with fresh legs and beat the crap
out of the Vikings the.
Speaker 8 (25:26):
First round of the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (25:27):
As we go to eighteen games and stuff's going to
probably become more and more relevant, he's prioritizing rests maybe
a little bit like you see in the NBA, And so,
you know, I noticed a discussion that they really wanted
to get going, and Kevin dem Off, the COO of
the Rams actually probably had the most I think the
most relevant question that he raised in the room yesterday,
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which was, we need to decide what we're trying to
do here. Are we trying to be fair or are
we trying to have a more competitive week eighteen having
a more compelling week eighteen? What's the goal?
Speaker 8 (25:59):
You want to more compelling?
Speaker 9 (26:00):
We gain? See no question the open seating format would
give you that if you are trying to be fair.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
I think the way they do it now is.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
Probably more fair because the schedules. There's so many inequities
between the schedules. I mean, for example, like the NFL
this year, go ahead, what do you have breaks?
Speaker 6 (26:18):
Well, just to that point, we had a conversation with
Pete Prisco and he was like a dog chas against tail.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
I think by the end of it he was arguing
with himself.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
But I digress you because his part.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Was well why have divisions, which I think is actually
like a fair point because if the only thing you're
saying about divisions that they bring you is oh, it
gets a chance to host a home playoff game, and
there's value in that, and the inequity in regards to
scheduling comes up because my point back to him is, well, look,
if you could, theoretically you just have a format where
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you play everyone in your own conference and you don't
have to worry about playing your division rival twice, and
that's very natural to the NFL schedule. Fans may even
hate that, but like the rivalry still exists amongst some
of those division rivels that you have, that doesn't change.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
It's no different in college football, right.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
The difference would be in this case you actually get
to see who in the regular season is the best
team of the entire conference. You can compare because there's
more competent opponents head to play, et cetera. And you
could end up doing your seating that way, which feels
at least more fair, even though there won't be as
much crossover to the NFC side, maybe besides.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
A couple of games in a seventeen game schedule.
Speaker 9 (27:30):
And I think, Brady like, it's interesting you say that,
because I think that that was sort of the challenge
that the commissioner of the league off It's put in
front of everybody I'm coming out of this meeting, was
to think big picture and this and to not let
close the door.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
On anything you know, I like, I'm with you. I
think that's the way they're going to be thinking going forward,
is like, do we need to rethink the.
Speaker 9 (27:51):
Way we do the schedule in format formula?
Speaker 8 (27:53):
Do we need to rethink the way we do divisions?
Because I mean, and I was I was going to
bring up this inequity.
Speaker 9 (27:58):
I think it's a really it's a really relevant one. Right, Like,
it's the NFC East this year plays the NFC North,
the and the AFC West, and those two divisions there
are six playoff teams. Right, So the NFC East teams,
whoever wins the NFC East, right, say they have eleven wins?
Is that more impressive than an NFC West team? And
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the NFC West is playing the two South divisions, which
I think had like five teams that had twelve or
more losses, right, and only two playoff teams. Is it
more impressive than an NFC West team winning twelve or
thirteen games. You could argue that it is, right, and
there are, but the bottom line is, no, no matter
how you slice that up, they're competing in completely different environments.
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They're not competing against the same team, you know, And
so I think that's the number one thing is like,
if you're going to look at open seating, fine, but
you really do have to address the schedule inequities then,
and the scheduling inequities.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
I don't know any way you can fix that because it's.
Speaker 9 (28:56):
Just the number of games you play because the scheduling inequities.
I think the only way to do that is to
repatch the.
Speaker 8 (29:01):
Way you do the conferences.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Yeah, you just have the conferences, you wouldn't have divisions.
I mean again, college football is battling this to some
degree too, with how the conferences are scheduling out their
games amongst other opponents.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 9 (29:14):
And I think you like and you know, like the
cool thing about that is like it may diminish to
ride the division rivalries you have a little bit, but
then it may create new rivalries too, you.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
Know, and like but more teams.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
Could you make the case too though that like it
only increases then the one time you do play that
rival like you only get one shot at it.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
You don't get to.
Speaker 9 (29:35):
Well no, no, no, But I'm saying like there's gonna
be now now, there are gonna be some teams.
Speaker 8 (29:37):
That you're gonna be playing every year.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
You know what I mean, yeah, I got you.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
I'm just saying, like the ones that used to play
twice a year, I'm saying, you don't have that shot
to maybe split or sweet night.
Speaker 9 (29:47):
It's just like that's it, and that's probably you know what.
Like that's probably where it's similar to college football too,
in that, like you know the division format, right, if
you put two rivals and opposite divisions and they're not
playing each other as much, well then that's a real
problem for some schools and less of a problem for others.
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Like you know, for some schools like that have two
or three natural rivals, like that'd be a big deal
if you lost some of those rivalries, where there might
be another school that doesn't have those same natural rivalries,
where it's less of a big deal, you know. I
mean for the NFCS teams, that will probably feel like
a huge deal. For the a FC South teams, probably.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
Less of a big deal, if that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Let me get you one lass, just switching gears on
on you for my last question. What's the update on
the Aaron Rodgers situation. I know Q said his inside
sources are saying he's going to sign. It's a it's
a foregone conclusion he's going Pittsburgh. When when does this happen?
Speaker 9 (30:50):
They've given him, they've given him, I mean like look
like I like, I like my understanding that he's given
them every indication that that that that that he's likely coming,
and they feel comfortable that he is coming, but nothing's
hundred percent. And I think really like this is kind
of kind of boiled down to you know, Aaron getting
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all of his personal matters, taking care of the level
he wants to and he's earned the right to to
to to do that and wait it out. And you know, again,
like I said you guys last week, like I think
part of this is, like you know, once he signs,
like he sort of has to start showing up or
else everybody's gonna be answering a lot of questions.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
And so you know, I.
Speaker 9 (31:29):
Think that might that's probably part of it too, where
it's like when I sell and I want to be
all in, and you know, like I know he's traveled
a bunch recently, and you know, whenever that winds down,
my guess would be that he is going.
Speaker 8 (31:43):
To be all right.
Speaker 9 (31:44):
Like whenever I sign him, I'm going to lock in
and I'm going to be a stealer all the way
in and and by the way, guys, I do think
like the way the mini camp thing caused a big
issue for him last year.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
I would not underrate that.
Speaker 9 (31:56):
As a factor in this whole thing because he you know,
going through that, the way he went through that, and
what a big deal that became last June. But I
think that that's a factor in the way he's handling
on all this.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Joe, get him on x at. Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter,
Lead content strategist at the MMQB, Amazon Prime NFL Insider
and a Thursday tradition with us here every single week.
Ab we appreciate it. We'll do it again next week.
Speaker 9 (32:21):
Thanks all, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
There is the great Alberbreer with us here. There were
some rumblings that he wasn't so confident about the cell
reception he was going to have, but made it through clean,
made it through clean, sounded great. So good to hear from. Maybe,
by the way, it's going to be good to hear
from Lee to laught because we've got another edition of
Lee's Leftovers coming up next here on the show, and
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we have got lots of questions that will be yours
right here at FSR.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
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Speaker 7 (33:41):
These might smell a little fun case what does that
sounds incredible.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
But they're still good. Time to find out what's left.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
It's Lee's laugh Jovers.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
All right, d'lap, what do we got?
Speaker 10 (33:52):
Well, guys, we have a question from Todd, none other
than Todd. I was hanging out with him yesterday delivery Wednesdays,
and I look over at him and I said, Dudde,
you get in a fight because you got califlower ear.
So he's got a hematoma on his ear. It's getting worse.
He's actually texting me right now that it's getting worse.
So I got to take him to the urgent care today.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
But do you guys have awful hygiene. It's got to
get an infection of some sort. There's no shower now,
it's MRSA.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (34:17):
I was trying to figure out what the hell would
cause that, because obviously he didn't get in a fight.
It says like if you sleep too long on one side,
that can cause that.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Alcoholism might have something that might have something to that.
Speaker 10 (34:28):
Yeah, I told him that too, So yeah, I think
it's a.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Cauliflower air from sleeping too.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Long, cauliflower ear from drinking too much.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Did he fall asleep on like a gym beam bottle?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
It can't be anything, couldn't be anything egregious, you know
what I mean? It's something simple like falling asleep is
what he has to go to the emergency.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
My guess is, you too, are wrestlingly. That's why I
think happened.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
You guys can wear the proper head gear than after
wrestling over time.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Again, it.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Is curious the timing of this all considering his uh,
his encounter not too long ago. I mean, maybe sleeping
underneath something of that weight and size could have led
to the cauliflower air. Maybe maybe there is something being
left out of the story that would give more relevance,
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uh to the story.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
That does make sense. That's a that's a good one.
Speaker 10 (35:26):
He was in a little bit of a wrestling match there,
he got for his life.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Yeah you know, oh God, and you're the one who's
got to take him to urgent care. Yeah, huge bitch.
Whoa oh wow, oh wow?
Speaker 9 (35:44):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (35:45):
His cars, his cars could put he's getting a new ball.
I wouldn't say a new car, but he hasn't gotten
it yet.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
So I'll pick up.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
What's up with you guys in your cars having issues
and you get a soup kitchen in the back of
yours and then you were having some issues.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
It's la pick up like jonases for the cargo he
lugging around right now.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
He's riding around with a bull elephant.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
Wait, you're on his lady friend.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I don't think she can be uh yeah, I don't
think I can hardly fit in this car. I don't think.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
In there.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
What was he driving?
Speaker 10 (36:30):
It's a piece of junk. It's the What happens is
it's a bench seat and it's stuck all the way
forward and it won't move back. It's kind of like
the Jonas's car where it's like leg group, did he
just call you out?
Speaker 4 (36:44):
He just took that pressure right off of himself and
put it on you Jonas.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
I mean it's probably true, it's probably accurate, But I
think there's different reasons why Todd's seat doesn't move forward
or doesn't move back.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
There's a different reason for certain watch. She wouldn't fit
in there, and it ain't to see.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, a huge bit. It's got a wooling mammoth lane
of the back.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
But but we do know if she were to be
able to get in, she would be safe.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Is that Lebra playing Chewbaca?
Speaker 2 (37:20):
There will be no I look how much.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
Joy she's getting out of this content right now? Anything
else that doesn't involve Todd.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Sure. How about this?
Speaker 10 (37:32):
Speaking of cars, the UH, you know the Indy five
hundreds of this weekend, there's gonna be an Oscar Meyer
fleet of Wienermobiles going head to head in the WII
five hundred six different Wienermobiles dream representing next different regions.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Of the country. That's Tuesday night. Have you ever seen
a Wienermobile in the uh in the wild?
Speaker 8 (37:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Actually, I've been driving. I've seen one one time on
the road. Yes, that is something.
Speaker 10 (37:58):
It's very exciting. Why, well, it's like seeing a great
white buffalo or something. Man, it's it's you don't get
to see that very often. Just it's just a it's
a it's a hot dog car.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yeah, it's glorious out in the wild.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
No, like at an event just supported him.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Did you hear that? Did you don't hear that? It's
a hot dog car? And I'm a big fan of
the wienermobile.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Okay, we know, Lorena. It's like it's not where.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
It's not a UFO. Like it's a hot dog car.
Speaker 10 (38:29):
It's the next best thing to a UFO. I mean,
I'd be a little more excited about it.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Is it a Is it a mini su v. What
is the damn thing if it didn't have the Wiener
on it?
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Yeah, Like I assume it's kind of like an r V, like.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
A RAV or something like that.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
I think it's I think it's got a little bit
of a compartment inside.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
That you can walk around.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
Can you have you written in a before?
Speaker 3 (38:51):
No? I would?
Speaker 5 (38:53):
I bet you would.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
He I wonder how.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Fast a Wiener can move?
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Great question?
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Kind of aerodynamic?
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Right?
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Kind of kind of?
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I don't I wouldn't say so though.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I don't think it looked like going through tunnels.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
It looks like a great point. I thought, I just
saw that visually. It's a great question.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
What have you had to put it in reverse and
then go back into the tunnel?
Speaker 2 (39:24):
What is that?
Speaker 4 (39:25):
What exactly does a Wiener mobile look like going through
the liberty tubes?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
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the way up until the end of this hour at
nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. For those of
you that that did go to bed, we're not aware. Yes,
the Pacer won that game last night, somehow, some way,
The Indiana Pacers won that game last night, which you
know that's gotta be look up. That's why you gotta
(01:13):
That's why I look up.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
What at the screen? Oh you're not Friday screen. No
you're not front of.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
The I was reading about des Bryant. I'm going to rescue.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Oh yeah, that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
You know, everybody likes to weigh in on things that
maybe catches uh you know, catches momental men and mainstream media.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I guess you know, but you know, this is what
it is.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
I guess I didn't realize that a topic such as
this would become such a big, big, major deal. I mean, God,
Lee bro, where we're at in our relations that way
has deteriorated so quickly and turned into such it's such
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weird old business anymore. But whatever. It would have been
much better if you could have saw what I was
doing versus me having to send you a photo.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
You know. It's kind of funny, though.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Is that a burner? That that's the best best complment
I've ever gotten? Yeah? I got shot up too, literally,
So yeah, this is you know, look, wild night for
the Indiana Pacers, especially coming off the heel, and for
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Indianapolis Sportsman coming off the heels. Of the news of
Jim Mersey's passing and so now so it is I'm
assuming that because he took over the team from his dad,
and I'm assuming this stays in the family and.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
He doesn't have any kids, does it he does have offspring, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
He's got three daughters.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
So the three daughters will each takeover equal portion of
the team running it. They have joined the organization, so
they've been in this role. However, they only get one
vote and when it comes down to acting as the owner,
it stated that maybe they'll rotate that responsibility, maybe not.
It's just I mean, look, there's been other organizations that
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have had you know, members of the family inherent teams,
and it's there sometimes becomes points for those conflicts. I mean,
for example, not saying that I know this or anything else.
I'm not even trying to speculate here, but if Jim
Mersey was in the position last season where his help
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was declining and he was contemplating making a decision on
Chris Ballot, which was a lot of the talk and
conversation based on how the.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Season had gone. You know, they haven't won the division.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
I don't believe since Chris Ballard has taken over as
general manager, and Shane Steichen hasn't been there long if
as a head coach where there's as much pressure on him.
So there was a thought and reportedly so, that maybe
they would move on from Chris Ballard but keep Shane Styking.
And I think, you know, part of I assume someone
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when they're in a position where they feel like their
life's coming to an end or they're not, you know,
they're battling through a lot of adversity, is he probably
didn't want to have one of his last big decisions
that he makes as owner of the team's firing a guy,
especially guy who's been there, who's you know, dug in
roots with him and his family, I'm sure who he
developed a great rapport with, and that.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Could be a really tough thing. And I do wonder,
you know, how.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
His personal situation and his health was maybe factoring into
the lack of a decision made at the end of
the season, but also moving forward, you know how that's
going to work for his three daughters, is maybe they
amongst the three of them, can have a vote, you know,
two against one majority of rules, or is there gonna
be one stronger voice that kind of steps up and
ends up acting as the owner amongst the three of them.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
I think in those these types of scenarios, work together,
work together, figure it out, because the business is most
likely what's more important in the end than anything else.
Stick together, agree together, disagree together, even if you guys
don't fall on the same page. It's so funny, timely,
(05:36):
timely point because I've been having this conversation with my
own kids, you know, them all being here home from
from for break from college for a couple of minutes,
just having that conversation of as you get older, you
start to realize things are going to continue to change
and evolve. Uh, and you just got to stay, you know,
(05:58):
connected to one of another. You got to stay getting
to know one another and you know, building building that
admiration for one another and what you represent and how
hard you work. You don't have to believe in exactly
the same things or agree on every single thing. You're
going to have differences, but always make sure that the
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well being and the support for one another is there first.
Don't ever let outside forces, you know, ever separate you.
And sometimes that may be like an understated lesson to
teach your your kids as they grow. When they're younger,
it's you know, don't fight, don't fight, don't fight, you know,
and and and get along with one another, and take
(06:44):
care of your your younger brother or take care of
your younger sister. Always make sure you protect them Da
da dad, so and so forth. But as they get
older and you start to realize that now you know,
society and life is beginning to mold them just as
much as you know what they have going on, you
start to realize how important your influence is on on
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your children as as like young adults, and how important
those conversations and reinforcement of what you guys represent to
one another. So you know, if you don't, if your
bonds of love and respect and admiration for one another
aren't strong, they'll be ultimately, you know, broken apart by
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outside sources, whether it's husbands, boyfriends, you know, business opportunities, whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
It may be.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Right, death in a family so hopefully you know, as
as a legacy to the ursa family obviously, uh it
being passed down from generation to generation. And Jim, you know,
being being one of the guys that that is in
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that that line of what is its succession that these
three daughters will will take it seriously and make sure
that you know, whatever decisions are being made as Colts
representatives and ownership, that they settle into being just that
and that they stay on the same page even if
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they're not agreeing with one another.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
One Ersa was a GM at twenty five years old.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Yeah, it's pretty incredible, Like, can.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
You imagine at twenty five years old, Hey, you're going
to be the GM of this team. When when he
took it over from his dad because he wasn't he
passed away at sixty five.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
He wasn't.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
It's not like he was an old man. So, but
that's an incredible run.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Man.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
He worked in every department, he was a GM owner,
you know, won a Super Bowl. Like, they had some
good times in Indy.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
So, by the way I said, it's Carli Ers, Gordon,
Casey Foyd, and Kailn Jackson are his three daughters.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
But looking over that run, if.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
You think about it, like from nineteen ninety nine to
twenty fourteen, Colts made fourteen playoffs appearances.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
They won ten division titles in that span.
Speaker 6 (08:55):
They appeared in four AFC title games, two Super Bowls,
winning that one two thousand and six, and that's their
first since the organization moved from Baltimore, which is pretty significant.
Now we kind of cut it off from that like
twenty fourteen, because when you think about the legacy.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
He left behind, not just what he meant with.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
The organization in Indianapolis or Colts fans, you think about too,
the quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
That he was able to you know, draft and pick
up and whether it was.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
You know, Harbaugh and Manning obviously you know, had a
Hall of Fame career there, I mean just alone. You know,
he goes to Denver and has again maybe you'd a
Hall of Fame career too, and that's short window.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
But I mean he had his Hall of Fame career.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
As a Colt at least in my opinion, that's kind
of what I remember the most. But then Andrew Luck
it was very much on that path and decided to
stop playing football. You know, probably before a lot of
us thought he was who was going to before he'd
be a guy you talk about being in the Hall
of Fame and because of stopping short, you know, I
don't think it's going to be there for him. But
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think about how different too, the Colts organization and what
it would look like had Andrew Lux stayed there. I
don't think it's far fetched they say, like, maybe they
make a Super Bowl appearance, maybe they win another one.
You know, he was that good of a player and
they were that much more of a competitive team as
compared to since that time they have been in a
constant state of turnover at the quarterback spot.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
And trying to answer that question, and it's just it's
tough that, you know, that's.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
Unfortunately how things went because if not, you know, you're
looking at a team that you know would have been
competitive in the AFC, you know, since that that period
of time, and maybe we're talking about saying with a
couple of Super Bowls and his legacy is a little
bit different.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
By the way, I forgot about the AFC title game.
I know, var you remember this when the Colts almost
beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh. It was when the Steelers
went to the Super Bowl and lost to the Cowboys,
but it was that AFC title game. I think it
was that three rivers and Jim Harbaugh through that Hail
(11:01):
Mary at the end that bounced around and they almost
caught it. They had that one. They also had the
Steelers Colts playoff game where Jerome Bettis fumbled the ball
and Ben Roethlisberger tripped up. I forget who it was. Like,
There's been some great moments between not only the Colts
and Steelers, but the Colts and big time playoff games
for a long time. But Jim Mercay at the home.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
You know, I do remember that game. I believe I
remember that game. Wasn't Harball was Harball.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
It was the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting and just another story just
kind of touching on, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
The legacy play of it all.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
He learned the business from the ground up and he
was a part of it. And this is something that
I experienced when I was in New York and saw
how the grandkids were handling things, you know, on the
day to day, real ground level type of responsibilities from
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helping be you know, with the players with their lockers
and organizing the lockers and stuff like that, to you
name it, odds and ends jobs of what took place
in learning what it's all about until it's your time
to take over the operation. And that's exactly what Jim
Ursay did during the course of his time growing up
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before becoming the GM of the team. So you know,
to me, there would be no surprise. I know in
past we've we've made jokes about him being, you know,
the lead singer of his band and you know the
tree leaner Tree Leaners.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
And the youth was doing that.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Well, that's fine, I'll take it. I'll definitely take it.
I stand on it. I mean, I'll put my ten
toes down and put that flag in the ground that
I definitely might have led the way on making fun
of the singing group. But you know where you're because
of what's happened to him. You take a look and
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a little bit of an inventory on who he was
and what he's done, and just at a glance, you
know it was done the right way.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
You know, you learn it from the ground up.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
You learn it from the multiple sides of what the administratives,
administrative duties are. You know that that dovetails into you know,
team operations, different things like that, and lo and behold,
by the time you get to a certain age like
twenties twenty five, stuff like that, you're in position to
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actually be elevated into a role of more significance.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And you know, people aren't. I'm sure people were going.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
To have issues with it, But at the end of
the day, whether you want to call it nepotism or not,
the bottom line is is that this is the American
dream persona fied. You build something, you create something, it's
person on f and then you teach your children, your offspring,
how the business works, and they make an active decision
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do they want to play a part in it? Do
they want to have a role in it or do
they not? And if you do, you go through the
proper channels and the proper development to become that. So,
you know, having this take place gives you the opportunity
to kind of take a pause, stop and look at
a person for the person that they are.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
I don't know them.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
I don't know him personally, never met him, so I
don't know what type of person he was. I'm not
gonna lit him for being this great person because I
don't know him, but I'm certainly not going to take
shots at him either. So it seems as though he's
got a pretty strong legacy. Did get Peyton Manning, you know,
and had that, did have Andrew Luck has had some
success before he checked up out of here. So I
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guess those are the things you should focus in on.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
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Eagles just running a muck there while having conversations about
(15:30):
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Speaker 3 (15:49):
Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio
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Right now, though, we turn it over to Albert Breer,
a senior NFL reporter lead content strategist at the MMQB.
(16:10):
You also see his work during the season on Amazon
Prime as our NFL insider AB. Good morning, how are
we feeling?
Speaker 8 (16:18):
Good morning, guys, how we doing good?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
So?
Speaker 3 (16:21):
What can you tell us about this feisty conversation that
was had about the tush push in Minnesota? Jeffrey Lourie
reportedly comparing it to a teenage boy's wet dream, YadA YadA, Yeah,
like all the stuff that came out. What can you
tell us about what went into them not approving the
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banning of the tush push?
Speaker 8 (16:44):
Well, the first thing I would tell you them sick
of talking about.
Speaker 9 (16:46):
It, But just for you guys, I'll go ahead and
talk about it one more time. Yeah, you know, I
think guys like the this got so complicated and so
just wound up and different agendas and everything else over
the last four months. I think that sort of became
the problem, Like the discussion, the issue itself became a
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problem onto itself, and that really started, you know, I
think going back to March, when you know, the Eagles
really felt like they had been targeted and they were
hearing two different explanations on why this needed to be
taken out.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
Of the game. On one side, you had the other.
Speaker 9 (17:21):
Teams and the other team saying that this is a
rugby play, it's not a football player. And then you
had the league saying it's a health and safety matter,
So which is it? And you know, when the Eagles
challenged the two those two groups, they didn't get answers
they thought were satisfactory, and some of the teams, the
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other teams that were concerned, looked at it and said, well,
it's way too narrow the way the packers initially wrote it,
and it does look like it's like it's targeting the Eagles.
So they went back they rewrite it based on the
two thousand and four rule, which was no pushing or
pulling of an offensive teammate period. And the end that
winds up including some other plays that some other teams
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didn't want outlawed, like you know, effort plays.
Speaker 8 (18:06):
Down the field. I did one team say to me,
we don't want to legislate effort.
Speaker 9 (18:10):
So they wound up being a no because they felt
like alignment coming downfield twenty yards and helping his teammate
over a line shouldn't be illegal. So it's just I
think it got so tied up and so complicated, and
I think too many people took their eyes off the
ball on this one. And I think to some degree
you saw yesterday, like in that meeting room, I can
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tell you it sort of became personal, and I think
that that's why in the end it didn't wind up passing.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
I have so many questions in that regard, but it
didn't pass because those twenty two to ten, they need
twenty four votes. Do you foresee this like being tabled
but potentially change it in the future. Then there's all
those kinds of nuances in different conversations we could have
about the rule, for example, like aligning running downfield, Well,
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you don't have to carry the across the line.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
You can go block the guy that's trying to tackle.
Speaker 6 (19:02):
Him, right, Like That's how it's always been back when
that rules in place.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
But I digress.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
The point is, does like we'll just get enough momentum
or is it just kind of dead now where it's
just going to be the same, you know, and we're
going to the touch push moving forward?
Speaker 9 (19:19):
Well, I mean, I I would tell you Brady, we
have two hundred and seventy two games between now and
the next time, well, two hundred.
Speaker 8 (19:25):
And eighty five.
Speaker 9 (19:25):
I guess it'd be a cool playoffs two or eighty
five games between now and the next time. They talk
about this, and none of us know what's going to happen, right, Like, so.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
So if an injury happens, do you think that that's
for all the guys who voted against it, they're like, hey,
here it is.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
It's a safety issue.
Speaker 8 (19:42):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you have that.
Speaker 9 (19:43):
There's that part of it, you know what I mean, Like,
which is like if there's an injury, that might change
the dynamic for some people, you know, if teams get
more effective at stopping it, and like the Eagles aren't
running it anymore in week six, Week seven, week eight,
whatever it is beca could become a non issue. That's
not to you know what I mean, Like I just
I think it's hard to predict where we're going with
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this because we do have again, like two hundred and
eighty five football games between now and the next time
they'll talk about it, and I think that'll kind of
mark where the discussion goes. I mean, I just again, like,
I think this this, this got to the point where
it really, it really did become personal between the Eagles
and some other teams. And I think that's why you're
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sitting here, like and more of the news now is
about what happened in that room rather than the mechanics
of play, And I think it's sort of indicative of
how this conversation in general has gotten out of hand
over the last three or four months.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
Aby you've been in media for quite some time. How
long would you say you've you've been in media for.
Speaker 9 (20:50):
Well, this may be my twenty first year covering the NFL,
and it covered high school sports before that, So whatever
that number is.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Oh, yeah, I'm agree gone to that process exactly.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Yeah, And so you've seen a lot of things in
the industry kind of evolve and develop, and you know,
just turning into what it is now, what's your take
on like where media personalities are right now. I Mean,
it just seems like every time I turn around, there's
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somebody in our media that has has beef. And then
I guess the reason why I'm asking you that right now,
AB is because the latest one being RG three and
Ryan Clark, which are two former guys that you've covered. Like,
do you ever, like, you know, take inventory on where
the media game is right now? What's your like curious
(21:45):
from you being a vet, what's your.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Take on it?
Speaker 8 (21:50):
It's kind of funny because like one of the persons
to teach you in journalism school is don't make yourself
a story, you know, and that.
Speaker 9 (21:58):
Like the people that you cover are the story of
That's changed over the years, is all this stuff has
become more personality driven and everything else. But yeah, i'd
also say, like, for you know, my job, you know,
it's interesting. My job is much different than like like
what a former professional athlete like Ryan Clark or Robert
Griffin's job is.
Speaker 8 (22:18):
Like if my job is to report.
Speaker 9 (22:20):
On this stuff, my job is to take people behind
closed doors and tell them stuff they don't already know, and.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
And and and educate.
Speaker 9 (22:27):
Them and you know, like for for former athletes to
give opinions is to analyze the game on a level
that you know, like that that that that the general
public like wouldn't wouldn't that the level knowledge they wouldn't
have just by watching, you know. I think the commonality
is like for all of us are our our jobs
are to entertain and too and to give people something
(22:50):
that they.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
Can't get anywhere else.
Speaker 9 (22:52):
And you know, I will say that it's like, I mean,
for better or worse, like those sorts of beefs, those
sorts the fights always have legs.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
I mean, it's not just the ex athletes.
Speaker 9 (23:04):
You guys, remember the showdown at Starbucks in Indianapolis and
those guys, those guys weren't athletes competing there. So I
don't know the American public. Like the more I've done this, guys,
the more it's like it's like a middle school, like
you know, like cafeteria. Like you know, anytime anybody sniffs
any sort of fight or be for whatever, it's like,
(23:25):
ooh did you hear what he said about you?
Speaker 8 (23:28):
And off we go.
Speaker 9 (23:29):
So uh so, yeah, I'd say, I'd say, like how
it relates to the way we do our jobs, Like
I don't think anybody was taught to do their job
that way, you know what I mean when it comes
to being in the media, whether it's just an ex
athlete or a journalist. You know, but on the other hand,
the general public sure can't get enough of it.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. Get
him on x at. Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, lead
content strategist at the MMQB Amazon NFL on Prime Insider.
Got to ask you also, at these meetings, apparently the
Lions pulled back their idea that was kind of they
were coursed into putting together about reseting the playoffs. What
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went behind that not getting anywhere? Because it feels like
a no brainer. We kind of had a debate about it.
I know, some of us felt one way, some of
us felt the other. Why did that ultimately not even
make a conversation or two at the meetings this week?
Speaker 9 (24:27):
I mean, the easy answer this just flat out wasn't
enough support for it, right Like, so there were only
about a handful of teams that were willing to vote
for it in March. The commissioner wants it, that League
office wants it, so you know, they table it to
May hoping that they can drum up some more support,
But I don't think anybody was under the illusion that
it was going to pass at this meeting. I think
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this is more about setting up the discussion for twenty
twenty six and maybe more poignantly whenever they go to
eighteen games. You know, it was interesting because I like,
I think a big part of this for the league
has been how do we make week seventeen Week eighteen
more compelling because you have more teams now Resting guys
like the Rams.
Speaker 8 (25:09):
Were rewarded for it last year, like they.
Speaker 9 (25:12):
Could have been the third or the fourth seed. They
had something to play for a week eighteen, and Sean
McVay prioritized rest over getting the third seed, and then
he wound up being rewarded for it, right like, because
they came out with fresh legs and beat the crap
out of the Vikings the.
Speaker 8 (25:26):
First round of the playoffs.
Speaker 9 (25:27):
As we go to eighteen games and stuff's going to
probably become more and more relevant, he's prioritizing rests maybe
a little bit like you see in the NBA, And so,
you know, I noticed a discussion that they really wanted
to get going, and Kevin dem Off, the COO of
the Rams actually probably had the most I think the
most relevant question that he raised in the room yesterday,
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which was, we need to decide what we're trying to
do here. Are we trying to be fair or are
we trying to have a more competitive week eighteen having
a more compelling week eighteen? What's the goal?
Speaker 8 (25:59):
You want to more compelling?
Speaker 9 (26:00):
We gain? See no question the open seating format would
give you that if you are trying to be fair.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
I think the way they do it now is.
Speaker 9 (26:07):
Probably more fair because the schedules. There's so many inequities
between the schedules. I mean, for example, like the NFL
this year, go ahead, what do you have breaks?
Speaker 6 (26:18):
Well, just to that point, we had a conversation with
Pete Prisco and he was like a dog chas against tail.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
I think by the end of it he was arguing
with himself.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
But I digress you because his part.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Was well why have divisions, which I think is actually
like a fair point because if the only thing you're
saying about divisions that they bring you is oh, it
gets a chance to host a home playoff game, and
there's value in that, and the inequity in regards to
scheduling comes up because my point back to him is, well, look,
if you could, theoretically you just have a format where
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you play everyone in your own conference and you don't
have to worry about playing your division rival twice, and
that's very natural to the NFL schedule. Fans may even
hate that, but like the rivalry still exists amongst some
of those division rivels that you have, that doesn't change.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
It's no different in college football, right.
Speaker 6 (27:10):
The difference would be in this case you actually get
to see who in the regular season is the best
team of the entire conference. You can compare because there's
more competent opponents head to play, et cetera. And you
could end up doing your seating that way, which feels
at least more fair, even though there won't be as
much crossover to the NFC side, maybe besides.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
A couple of games in a seventeen game schedule.
Speaker 9 (27:30):
And I think, Brady like, it's interesting you say that,
because I think that that was sort of the challenge
that the commissioner of the league off It's put in
front of everybody I'm coming out of this meeting, was
to think big picture and this and to not let
close the door.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
On anything you know, I like, I'm with you. I
think that's the way they're going to be thinking going forward,
is like, do we need to rethink the.
Speaker 9 (27:51):
Way we do the schedule in format formula?
Speaker 8 (27:53):
Do we need to rethink the way we do divisions?
Because I mean, and I was I was going to
bring up this inequity.
Speaker 9 (27:58):
I think it's a really it's a really relevant one. Right, Like,
it's the NFC East this year plays the NFC North,
the and the AFC West, and those two divisions there
are six playoff teams. Right, So the NFC East teams,
whoever wins the NFC East, right, say they have eleven wins?
Is that more impressive than an NFC West team? And
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the NFC West is playing the two South divisions, which
I think had like five teams that had twelve or
more losses, right, and only two playoff teams. Is it
more impressive than an NFC West team winning twelve or
thirteen games. You could argue that it is, right, and
there are, but the bottom line is, no, no matter
how you slice that up, they're competing in completely different environments.
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They're not competing against the same team, you know, And
so I think that's the number one thing is like,
if you're going to look at open seating, fine, but
you really do have to address the schedule inequities then,
and the scheduling inequities.
Speaker 8 (28:53):
I don't know any way you can fix that because it's.
Speaker 9 (28:56):
Just the number of games you play because the scheduling inequities.
I think the only way to do that is to
repatch the.
Speaker 8 (29:01):
Way you do the conferences.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
Yeah, you just have the conferences, you wouldn't have divisions.
I mean again, college football is battling this to some
degree too, with how the conferences are scheduling out their
games amongst other opponents.
Speaker 8 (29:13):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 9 (29:14):
And I think you like and you know, like the
cool thing about that is like it may diminish to
ride the division rivalries you have a little bit, but
then it may create new rivalries too, you.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
Know, and like but more teams.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
Could you make the case too though that like it
only increases then the one time you do play that
rival like you only get one shot at it.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
You don't get to.
Speaker 9 (29:35):
Well no, no, no, But I'm saying like there's gonna
be now now, there are gonna be some teams.
Speaker 8 (29:37):
That you're gonna be playing every year.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
You know what I mean, yeah, I got you.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
I'm just saying, like the ones that used to play
twice a year, I'm saying, you don't have that shot
to maybe split or sweet night.
Speaker 9 (29:47):
It's just like that's it, and that's probably you know what.
Like that's probably where it's similar to college football too,
in that, like you know the division format, right, if
you put two rivals and opposite divisions and they're not
playing each other as much, well then that's a real
problem for some schools and less of a problem for others.
(30:07):
Like you know, for some schools like that have two
or three natural rivals, like that'd be a big deal
if you lost some of those rivalries, where there might
be another school that doesn't have those same natural rivalries,
where it's less of a big deal, you know. I
mean for the NFCS teams, that will probably feel like
a huge deal. For the a FC South teams, probably.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
Less of a big deal, if that makes sense.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Let me get you one lass, just switching gears on
on you for my last question. What's the update on
the Aaron Rodgers situation. I know Q said his inside
sources are saying he's going to sign. It's a it's
a foregone conclusion he's going Pittsburgh. When when does this happen?
Speaker 9 (30:50):
They've given him, they've given him, I mean like look
like I like, I like my understanding that he's given
them every indication that that that that that he's likely coming,
and they feel comfortable that he is coming, but nothing's
hundred percent. And I think really like this is kind
of kind of boiled down to you know, Aaron getting
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all of his personal matters, taking care of the level
he wants to and he's earned the right to to
to to do that and wait it out. And you know, again,
like I said you guys last week, like I think
part of this is, like you know, once he signs,
like he sort of has to start showing up or
else everybody's gonna be answering a lot of questions.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
And so you know, I.
Speaker 9 (31:29):
Think that might that's probably part of it too, where
it's like when I sell and I want to be
all in, and you know, like I know he's traveled
a bunch recently, and you know, whenever that winds down,
my guess would be that he is going.
Speaker 8 (31:43):
To be all right.
Speaker 9 (31:44):
Like whenever I sign him, I'm going to lock in
and I'm going to be a stealer all the way
in and and by the way, guys, I do think
like the way the mini camp thing caused a big
issue for him last year.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
I would not underrate that.
Speaker 9 (31:56):
As a factor in this whole thing because he you know,
going through that, the way he went through that, and
what a big deal that became last June. But I
think that that's a factor in the way he's handling
on all this.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Joe, get him on x at. Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter,
Lead content strategist at the MMQB, Amazon Prime NFL Insider
and a Thursday tradition with us here every single week.
Ab we appreciate it. We'll do it again next week.
Speaker 9 (32:21):
Thanks all, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
There is the great Alberbreer with us here. There were
some rumblings that he wasn't so confident about the cell
reception he was going to have, but made it through clean,
made it through clean, sounded great. So good to hear from. Maybe,
by the way, it's going to be good to hear
from Lee to laught because we've got another edition of
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Speaker 7 (33:41):
These might smell a little fun case what does that
sounds incredible.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
But they're still good. Time to find out what's left.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
It's Lee's laugh Jovers.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
All right, d'lap, what do we got?
Speaker 10 (33:52):
Well, guys, we have a question from Todd, none other
than Todd. I was hanging out with him yesterday delivery Wednesdays,
and I look over at him and I said, Dudde,
you get in a fight because you got califlower ear.
So he's got a hematoma on his ear. It's getting worse.
He's actually texting me right now that it's getting worse.
So I got to take him to the urgent care today.
Speaker 6 (34:10):
But do you guys have awful hygiene. It's got to
get an infection of some sort. There's no shower now,
it's MRSA.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (34:17):
I was trying to figure out what the hell would
cause that, because obviously he didn't get in a fight.
It says like if you sleep too long on one side,
that can cause that.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Alcoholism might have something that might have something to that.
Speaker 10 (34:28):
Yeah, I told him that too, So yeah, I think
it's a.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Cauliflower air from sleeping too.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
Long, cauliflower ear from drinking too much.
Speaker 3 (34:41):
Did he fall asleep on like a gym beam bottle?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
It can't be anything, couldn't be anything egregious, you know
what I mean? It's something simple like falling asleep is
what he has to go to the emergency.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
My guess is, you too, are wrestlingly. That's why I
think happened.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
You guys can wear the proper head gear than after
wrestling over time.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Again, it.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Is curious the timing of this all considering his uh,
his encounter not too long ago. I mean, maybe sleeping
underneath something of that weight and size could have led
to the cauliflower air. Maybe maybe there is something being
left out of the story that would give more relevance,
(35:23):
uh to the story.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
That does make sense. That's a that's a good one.
Speaker 10 (35:26):
He was in a little bit of a wrestling match there,
he got for his life.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Yeah you know, oh God, and you're the one who's
got to take him to urgent care. Yeah, huge bitch.
Whoa oh wow, oh wow?
Speaker 9 (35:44):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (35:45):
His cars, his cars could put he's getting a new ball.
I wouldn't say a new car, but he hasn't gotten
it yet.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
So I'll pick up.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
What's up with you guys in your cars having issues
and you get a soup kitchen in the back of
yours and then you were having some issues.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
It's la pick up like jonases for the cargo he
lugging around right now.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
He's riding around with a bull elephant.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
Wait, you're on his lady friend.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I don't think she can be uh yeah, I don't
think I can hardly fit in this car. I don't think.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
In there.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
What was he driving?
Speaker 10 (36:30):
It's a piece of junk. It's the What happens is
it's a bench seat and it's stuck all the way
forward and it won't move back. It's kind of like
the Jonas's car where it's like leg group, did he
just call you out?
Speaker 4 (36:44):
He just took that pressure right off of himself and
put it on you Jonas.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
I mean it's probably true, it's probably accurate, But I
think there's different reasons why Todd's seat doesn't move forward
or doesn't move back.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
There's a different reason for certain watch. She wouldn't fit
in there, and it ain't to see.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Yeah, a huge bit. It's got a wooling mammoth lane
of the back.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
But but we do know if she were to be
able to get in, she would be safe.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Is that Lebra playing Chewbaca?
Speaker 2 (37:20):
There will be no I look how much.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
Joy she's getting out of this content right now? Anything
else that doesn't involve Todd.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Sure. How about this?
Speaker 10 (37:32):
Speaking of cars, the UH, you know the Indy five
hundreds of this weekend, there's gonna be an Oscar Meyer
fleet of Wienermobiles going head to head in the WII
five hundred six different Wienermobiles dream representing next different regions.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Of the country. That's Tuesday night. Have you ever seen
a Wienermobile in the uh in the wild?
Speaker 8 (37:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Actually, I've been driving. I've seen one one time on
the road. Yes, that is something.
Speaker 10 (37:58):
It's very exciting. Why, well, it's like seeing a great
white buffalo or something. Man, it's it's you don't get
to see that very often. Just it's just a it's
a it's a hot dog car.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yeah, it's glorious out in the wild.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
No, like at an event just supported him.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Did you hear that? Did you don't hear that? It's
a hot dog car? And I'm a big fan of
the wienermobile.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Okay, we know, Lorena. It's like it's not where.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
It's not a UFO. Like it's a hot dog car.
Speaker 10 (38:29):
It's the next best thing to a UFO. I mean,
I'd be a little more excited about it.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Is it a Is it a mini su v. What
is the damn thing if it didn't have the Wiener
on it?
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Yeah, Like I assume it's kind of like an r V, like.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
A RAV or something like that.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
I think it's I think it's got a little bit
of a compartment inside.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
That you can walk around.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
Can you have you written in a before?
Speaker 3 (38:51):
No? I would?
Speaker 5 (38:53):
I bet you would.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
He I wonder how.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Fast a Wiener can move?
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Great question?
Speaker 5 (39:01):
Kind of aerodynamic?
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Right?
Speaker 5 (39:04):
Kind of kind of?
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I don't I wouldn't say so though.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I don't think it looked like going through tunnels.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
It looks like a great point. I thought, I just
saw that visually. It's a great question.
Speaker 4 (39:20):
What have you had to put it in reverse and
then go back into the tunnel?
Speaker 2 (39:24):
What is that?
Speaker 4 (39:25):
What exactly does a Wiener mobile look like going through
the liberty tubes?
Speaker 2 (39:29):
You know,
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