May 26, 2025 • 39 mins
The guys talk about if what we saw from Karl-Anthony Towns and the Knicks in the 4th quarter of Sunday's game is sustainable going forward, the College Football Playoffs going to a straight seeding format, Would You Rather?, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
If there's any piece of sage advice that you need
going into every Knicks game for the rest of the year,
it's simple. Midway through the game, when you feel the
temptation to open Twitter x and you feel like you
need to say something about the game, follow Herm's advice.
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Don't press send, because at the end of the day,
all you're gonna do is look like an idiot. An
hour later, he's Buck rising on Jason Fitz. We're in
for two bros and a cup of Joe on Fox
Sports Radio, hanging out with you all morning long. And
this one is simple. It is simple to me. By
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Knicks fan's getting some nice sleep today, but who's not
getting any sleep? Buck, It's pretty simple. Everybody that decided
to tweet with about fifteen minutes left in the game
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that the Knicks were getting absolutely murdered, they were That's fine.
But we see he even noted media people that should
know better turning this game off.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Knicks are dead. This thing's over.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Media people that you know love the attention, Like I
don't know, barstool out there are just constantly telling us,
I mean, portnoy on one the whole thing, And I'm looking.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
At him like the hell are you thinking?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Because if there's any one thing we can count on
in this year's playoffs is that the bigger the lead
you have against the Knicks, the more uncomfortable you should be.
Yet again, they were down by as many as twenty
in this game, which is the way they went. So
it doesn't make any sense to anybody. But I don't
understand why you can, right now, in good conscious tweet
anything until the clock actually hits double zeros when it
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comes to the New York team.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Why would you personally attack me that way?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, I'm just you know, I'm just setting the no
no no message.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
You talked all the way around it, and.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
You didn't even I mean, you don't even look me
in the eyes anymore. All Right, this is supposed to
be We're supposed to get communicate. This is a relationship.
We have to be upfront and honest with people with
one another. Otherwise it's never going to work. Why wouldn't
you just look at me and say, why did you
tweet about the Knicks being left for dead potentially down three,
down twenty points against the Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Why?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I think the important thing here is that you had
the opportunity to really own it for yourself. The important
thing here is that you have the opportunity to complete
because I just look, there's certain things I've learned as.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I don't want to read nothing except for the way
that they got played out and Karl Anthony Towns in
the entire experience, go Pacers.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
You never have you never have any sort of regrets.
That's a Buck Rising and regret don't really like I.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Don't reflect me much to be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yeah, I just keep doing it A volume shooter, baby,
I'm Russell Westbrook out here.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
If Buck Rising woke up in the movie The Hangover,
like with the Caesars suitet, trash, a lie or a
tiger sorry in the bathroom, a baby in the closet,
Buck would look around and he would say, must have
had a good night, and then he would just go
about his day. Like if I was missing on the roof.
Buck would not look for me. Buck would just be like,
here's a grown ass man, He'll figure it out. We're
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all adults. I'm gonna go hit the casino. That's how
Buck lives. And so I look, I appreciate that about you.
I appreciate the consistency here, because if you weren't out
there snarky on the world wide interwebs, then who would
you be.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I respect it. I just think my.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Entire personalities and derived off my twitter's that's that's as
bad as sad as a state of affairs as you
could possibly have.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
At least it's not derived at your TikTok. I mean,
that's that's a personal growth.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I just think that this year, given what we saw
against I don't know, the Celtics, maybe this is the
year to draft that. Like you you write it out,
you draft it, and you realize, I'm not going to
be first to market on this one. I'm just gonna
be right to it. Like the number of times, this
is what I do. When I watch the Raiders. Right
Raiders go up by three touchdown, I'm immediately like I'll
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write the tweet of like, oh feels good, and then
I'll just delete it because I know that I don't
want the blowback that comes from the eventual disappointment that's going.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
To be there for me. Like this is, these are
life lessons.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Look, let me be the older brother here and give
you the life lesson that you need. Yeah, condescendingly, I'm
coming with my walker and be like, let me tell
you Sonny about this, Like, I'm just I'm here to
help you, brother.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I'm here to help you not tweet during your next game.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I just I just wanted to.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I want it to be noted that it's the much
much older brother handing down this advice at this particular
point in time.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
That makes you the mistake kid, Like you were definitely
the like Mom and Dad thought they were out of
the woods.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
They thought they could do the hibbity dibbity with no no.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
They thought they could do hibbity and dibbity and not
have to worry about it. And instead they're like, well,
son of a biscuit, here we go having another one
of these Like that. That's that's where our relationship is.
You are fine, you are I'm the problem, older child.
You are the mistake.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I will wear that mantle proudly, and I will rage
tweet through sporting events and you will never be able
to tell me not to because nothing about that your
your approach. Your approach sounds almost like therapy. Like before
you make a rash decision, you count to ten before
you say something that you probably shouldn't say. You count
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to ten before you tweet about the next being dead
and buried and gone. You put it out there, you
save it in the draft. You count to ten, and
then you see if that tweet is still worth sending
in a ten second span, because last night, if you
were watching the fourth quarter that tweet, you would have
had the opportunity. And now they give you the edit button.
I think if you pay for Twitter, they give you
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the edit button. At this particular point in time.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Maybe if you get the blue check some of us
get the blue check mark just because of our status,
Like they just give you the blue check mark. So
some of us, you know, we're just sort of like
Twitter came in and they're like, you, sir, deserve a
blue check mark, and.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
So you just get it for free. You know. Me
and Lebron like we're basically living in the same.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
House and I'm the elitist. I think that.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
When you talk about the way that I guess the
thing about this is have no expectation about how these
games are going to play out, because it is impossible
to continue to expect the Knicks down twenty plus at
any point throughout the course of these playoffs to still
find miraculous ways to come back and win. And this
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was not a miraculous basketball game by any stretch of
the imagination. It was a miraculous fourth quarter. It was
a miraculous fourth quarter performance from a player who has
I don't know, questionable viability as to how much of
a truly star player in the NBA Karl Anthony Towns is.
But you know what, he did it when they absolutely
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needed him. He did it on apparently a knee that
is not feeling particularly great right now. Because the way
that the next play and how short the bench of
the Knicks is throughout the course of this playoffs will
just grind you down. And frankly, that's the biggest reason
why I wonder how sustainable all of this is, because
the Knicks have to white knuckle their way through these
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moments at any given point in time, and it seems
exhausting and it seems unsustainable. And yet here we are, fitsy,
how many shows have we done throughout the course of
the NBA postseason, through now the three rounds that we
have been through talking about the next doing something that
they absolutely have no business doing, whether it be Jalen
Brunson in these clutch moments, whether it be the Karl
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Anthony Towns moments plural that he's given us, and to
his credit, he absolutely has. I just I don't know,
is it just lazy analysis of me to sit here,
to watch these Nick games, to say to myself, they
can't keep getting away with this, and then they continue
to get away with it. I don't know why my
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brain is so wired to think that the Knicks aren't
capable of doing it when they continue to show that.
You can't outright leave them for dead because you tried.
You tried to kill them against the Celtics.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I did try to kill them against the Celtics.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
It feels to me like I use this analogy a lot,
but like if you've ever had a buddy that walks
in and gets a scratch off lottery ticket and suddenly
that's how they pay the mortgage and they're like, oh
my god, I paid the mortgage. Well a month later
they're suddenly in the same situation and they go buy
the scratch off lottery ticket.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
You're like, that's not a smart way to pay your mortgage.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
But it worked again and again and again, and at
some point you look at it and say, hey, it's
better to be lucky than good. I don't think you
can consistently put yourself in twenty point holes and rely
on that to be the strategy of how you get
yourself an NBA championship at some point.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
That being said, their.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Sticktuitiveness when they're down by big quantity, that's something. But
also look at what happened in this game for Indiana,
fewest number of threes that they've attempted all playoffs, lowest
shooting percentage they've had from three point range all playoffs.
And you could say, well, that's suffocating defense down the stretch.
There were some really good closing defense by the next
I take nothing away from that, but overall, are they
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going to be like if the method to winning against
Indiana night in and night out is needing a massive
quarter from Karl Anthony Towns and needing the Pacers to
not be able to find good looks from three, not
be able to make the looks they have at an
unprecedented level, Like that doesn't feel like something that is
necessarily necessarily going to be repeated over and over and
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over in this series. So I feel like Indiana has
a pretty clear cut example of what they need to
get right for the next game.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
And I trust that they will.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
That being said, if I'm the Knicks, I just yeah,
at this point, it is part I'm on a heater,
And it looked like if you play craps, you got
the buddy that comes in and puts, you know, one
hundred bucks on black over and over and over and over.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Again, and every once in a while it works. But
here's what happens.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
We see that person at the crafts table the one
night that it's working, and we're like, oh my god,
they're kissed by the gods of gambling.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
They must own the casino.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
What you don't see is the other two hundred times
this year they tried that lost all their damn money. Right, Like,
at some point these things sort of regress to the means.
I believe that it's point the consequence that have caused
the Knicks to get into large deficits will be the
thing that eventually kills them in the playoffs. I stand
by that math, even though right now, to be fair,
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you're right, the math ain't math.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Well, and it's I think you said this in maybe
not so many words, but whose issues are more correctable
throughout the course of this series?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Is it Indiana or is it New York?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
The Pacers are the best shooting team left in the
field across the board by percentage, and they had it
off night, and they are a team that is going
to find ways to correct those mistakes and find ways
to get their shots. Now, the nationsmith injury is going
to be interesting here as far as their defense because
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how much time he might miss.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Or is expected to miss.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I haven't seen any reporting or any follow ups as
of this morning other than that he needed to come
out of that game, and that is a critical loss
for them. So perhaps we're talking about I mean, injuries
have played a role throughout.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
The course of this playoffs.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Look no further than the Cleveland Cavaliers and how completely
ravaged they were throughout the course of that series and
how much of a massive impact that had on the
entire postseason where it's one of the best regular season teams,
the Calves, and they just they just didn't have the
horses left to continue to keep pace with the no
pun intended the Pacers throughout the course of that series.
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Indiana's issues are more correctable. New York seems to be
more capable of these spectacular moments.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
But what would you rather rely upon?
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Would you rather rely upon the devil, you know, or
just kind of leaving your fate up to Okay, well.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Brunson's gonna get us again this time.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Our cat's gonna have an unbelievable fourth quarter, and we're
gonna we're just gonna We're gonna do this thing based
off vibes, damn it, and we're gonna make our way
through the entire postseason that way. I know it's it's
more scientific than that. But as we've talked about before,
and I'm certain that I don't have to tell Knicks fans.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
This, Nobody is briefed.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Nobody in New York or anybody who can about this
basketball team across the country or frankly, across the basketball
consuming world, is breathing any kind of sigh of relief.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Being down to one in the series with a.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Team that is still completely viable, and frankly, I think
a better top to bottom basketball team than New York
is right now. New York has just had incredible moments
throughout the course of this postseason that have defined the
way that we've talked about them.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Better to be lucky than good, but you got to
be both to win a championship, and I think Indiana
is better.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Update on the poll.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
We asked if you had to pick one player remaining
in the NBA playoffs to build your team around, which
one would it be. We picked a star from each
of the four remaining teams. Jalen Brunson in last place
at this point, not even close, Tyrese Haliburton in third.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
But we do have a change at the top.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
SGA getting forty percent of the vote, Anthony Edwards getting
forty two percent of the vote. So the world is
coming around to our logic. We'll keep you updated on
the poll obviously. Guys can keep chiming in at Fox
Sports Radio at Buck Rising at JA fits. In the meantime,
college football is changing and it's never been better. We'll
tell you about it next. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz.
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Speaker 5 (13:11):
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Speaker 1 (13:25):
It's two Pros and a Cup of Joe on Fox
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Fits takeover. College football is perfect. No, I joke that
college football is perfect, but I will say this college
football fans. We mentioned it earlier in the show Constantly
Up in Arms right, and the news this week came
out that college football is going to get rid of
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any of the automatic seeding advantages you saw from the
college football playoffs. So, for example, the highest ranked Group
of five team is still guaranteed a playoff spot, but
now they will be in the playoffs based on wherever
their ranking is. So this year, if the highest ranked
Group five team is let's say I don't know U
and LV and they're right number twenty three, they will
not suddenly find themselves in a top four seed with
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the first round by.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
None of that advantage still exists.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
So while they will get into the playoffs, the seeding
the playoffs will be done in a way that matches
the rankings of the teams, which I think is important.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
But Buck, look, I think this was a smart change.
It all makes sense.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
You watched Indiana football last year sort of take the
world by storm, but then we watched some of these
non traditional teams get their butts kicked in the playoffs.
To me, the one thing that really stands out, though,
is like, at some point, if your college football just
rip the band aid off, whatever changes you got, because
college football fans hate any change that ever comes through
the door, so it doesn't matter what it is. And
I'm so tired of this very false narrative that NIL
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is killing that change, the playoff expansion and NIL and
conference expansion is all killing college football. It's like, well,
I don't know, the ratings are pretty spectacular, and the
money being made by everybody's pretty spectacular, and people are
getting rich and everybody's still going to I don't think
the system's broken. I just think the college football fans
are traditionalists, kind of like baseball fans, and they hate
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any change to their sport.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
So to me, I would just take a pause on everything.
I'd look at it and say, what do we want
the playoffs to be? How do we want it to be?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I'd rip the whole thing apart and make guy ginormous
changes right now, all at once, just in a way
that's like, hey, we've ripped a partner sport, but here's
the new version of it.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Fall in love with it or don't? We don't care?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Why do you think that hasn't happened yet?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Genuine look, because honestly, I think everybody is scrambling to
figure out the whise the house and the rights, and
because nobody has been sitting here thinking forward thinking like
everything that's happening to the NCAA right now is their
own fault. Nil is the is their own fault. They
never managed any of these situations when they had the
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opportunity to, so now all of a sudden they're scrambling
to try and figure out how to do it, and
piece by piece is like, well that's a good idea
and it's better than what we have, so let's just
do that.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I don't know that you can recover that way.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
You can't.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And that's been the biggest issue that they are in
danger of taking advantage of one of the most loyal
audiences in any sport whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Fitsy.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
It's not just because you are obviously familiar with the
SEC country and I live in Nashville, Tennessee, which is
right in the heart of SEC country, and we both
understand that college football in the Southeast is tribal. It's
an entirely different it's it's as close to I think
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European soccer and the passion that the fans have as
anything that we have in American sports.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Right, it is.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Singular that way. It is, it is sacred that way,
it is passed down, it is in people's blood, and
they are at risk because they are so reactive as
opposed to being proactive in the way that they're governing
their sport. And really it's collegiate athletics as whole as
a whole, but we understand that for the purposes of
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revenue general, college football is always going to be king
there and that is the thing that is going to
drive the change first and foremost, and everything else just
has to go along.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
In the wake of college football.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
You have conference commissioners taking matters into their own hands,
because the NCAA can't be trusted to govern their own
sport as the foremost governing body. And I say foremost
in air quotes, which with as much sarcasm as humanly possible,
they have been thoroughly and utterly in nept and I
know that again, it is the easiest version of the
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conversation to say, well, the NCAA sucks and they've wrecked
this for all of us, and they've let the corporations
and the television networks come in here and ravage the
thing that makes the most sense, because the question that
they are not asking themselves at the end of the
day fitsie, is is this good for the sport? That's
not the job of the television networks to consider, right,
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It's not their job to consider what is in the
best interest in the health and the future viability of
this sport. There is supposed to be a body that
is tasked with overseeing that, with governing that, with policing that,
with protecting that. It's sure as hell not respectfully, Fox
and ESPN and everybody else that's bidding for live rights,
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their job is to do the best thing possible for
the network, for the shareholders, for all the people that
are financially invested in this thing, but it is coming
at the expense of the sport. And how we go
about trying to figure out the fact that we're just
putting a placeholder in on this straight seating model because
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this isn't going to matter next year, it's going to
be a sixteen team playoff. This is just kind of
like a one year all right, We'll see how it
goes f around and fact find out type of situation,
and it may be better, it may ultimately end up benefiting.
I don't know if you're going to ever eliminate there's
no perfect formula to eliminate blowouts in the postseason. I mean, hell,
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we're getting ready to talk about or I mean, we
have talked about today a series between the Minnesota Timberwolves
and the Oklahoma City Thunder that was completely non competitive
in game three, and we're talking about conference finals.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Like at the highest of highs.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
College football has protected itself pretty well against that. But
you're I mean the SMUs of the world and Indiana's
there's always going to be an SMU in Indiana in
this model of the College FOOTBA playoff.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
In fact, they're creating.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Environment, an environment for more of those things to happen
and just make the games relevant later into the season
and to get more juice at a having, you know,
college football playoff games on campuses. But if there was
somebody with the foresight to do exactly what you're talking about,
it would.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Have been done.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
They've left this entire thing open to what they've chalked
up to the exploratory period. That exploratory period since the
Supreme Court voted that college sports in the previous month
model was actually unconstitutional. We're going on four and five
years of an exploratory period of people just effing around
and trying to figure out and they've done so. I
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wouldn't say poorly, because it still makes money, it's still rates,
it's still football at the end of the day. But
again I am I am genuinely concerned fits that this
is the one sport more than any other, that is
as at risk of taking advantage of its fan base's
goodwill as any that we're talking about purely for the
sake of the dollar.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
He's buck rising up, Jason Fitz.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I agree with some of that, but I also think
that's what's happened across the board like, is is putting
an NFL playoff game on exclusively on a streaming app
really good for the growth of the game. No, but
it makes teams a bunch of money. It is putting
Major League Baseball god knows where it ends up half
the time, Like, is that good for the sport? No,
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but it's good for money the NBA. I mean, they
look at all the conversations about TTT and TTNT over
and over again, and it's like, well, don't really care.
We care where we're going to make the most money.
That's what everybody's out for this point. And the hard
part of college football is like, look, you can you
can pick whatever metric you want if I'm being fair,
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if you want to say, hey, look at the championship.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
In the playoff, college.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Football ratings were down for some of that, right, But
if you look at the regular season, college football ratings
were up. In fact, the bowl games were supposed to
get killed, but bowl games were up fifteen percent this
year for ESPN, which is a huge number a year
over year. So like, I think your point is an
important one here, because a peak behind the curtain. I mean,
I hosted College Football Live for ESPN for multiple years, right.
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So one thing that fans are always convinced of is
that the network partners are coming in and say, no,
we really need Texas to win. That just doesn't happen,
Like there is not an edict where they come in
and say, guys, we need the following teams like it
doesn't they know people are going to watch, like it's
not that difficult. So this concept that any of the
networks are biasing you know, the college Football Playoff or
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the College Football Selection Committee, like that just doesn't exist.
I covered the College Football Selection Committee in person, and
you know, remotely on digital shows for ESPN that were.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
The highest level of coverage for it.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I can tell you one hundred percent that ESPN never
was was contact.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Just why conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
ESPN's not going into the committee saying what we really
need is a ratings matchup here. Most of the committee
members aren't even thinking about that.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Like all of this becomes.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I think college football fans feel so disrespected by the
way that this has all been done that the only
way that you can make logic of atter sense of
it is to believe that there's some great grand conspiracy theory.
The fact is everybody's out for money, like the TV
partners are out from and that's why it's going to go.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
To sixteen games.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
So my thing is, if we're going to go to
sixteen games anyway, why tweak the playoff this year? Just
blow it up, give us sixteen games. Like everybody's already uncomfortable.
The faster you just get to rock bottom for the
existing fan base, the more you can rebuild in this
uncomfortable landscape. Because I do believe at their even if
there are people today that say, well, I hate where
football's going, I'm not gonna watch this anymore.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Okay, if your.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Grandfather and your grandmother, like if they were die hard
Balls fans, and you live in Tennessee and Valls fans
have been in your life for forty fifty years, and
you sit there and say, I'm giving up on them, Okay,
hit me. When the college football playoff happens and the
Balls are.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
In it, you watch them.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Because I think most people have that fandom, especially in
the South and the Midwest, for the Big Ten, in
the SEC, in the Big twelve. The fandom is so
cooked into who you are as a person. Even if
you wanted to turn it off, I don't think most
fans can, and that's what college football's relying on. We
can screw over everybody because at the end of the day,
as long as at some point we normalize the ship,
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people will hop back on whatever that ship looks like.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Yeah, but you don't think there's any danger of seeing
that depreciate because we're in a unique time, I think
in terms of just sports fandom generally, where you can
consume something like the NBA via social media without having
to watch a single regular season game. You can know
all the players, you can track the stats, you can
have as much information as anybody is capable of having,
but you don't watch the games. Now football is different
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because the inventory is so much less, the stakes are
much much higher. College football is trying to find ways
to continue to raise those stakes.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
And prolong the amount of fan.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Bases that they can keep through November and into December
and into January, where that in a lot of situations
once you get to bowl eligibility and no real shot
at a national championship. The way that I mean, I
don't know how many how many FBS college football programs
are there right now, one hundred and thirty something like
for the vast majority of them, You're still talking about
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the same four, or likely the same combination of four
at the top of the heap, even if you continue
to expand the field that way.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
So I get what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
I don't think that this is anything that is immediate,
For example, that we would see just a ratings drop
off from college football because fans are just sick and
tired of being taken advantage of. But if you told
me that the there was one sport where you might
see people start to chip away at that, or business
start to chip away at what is something that has
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been safeguarded so well, it's so much different than the
NFL fitsy. I for the longest time in my life
had no interest in college football. I'm not from a
part of the country where it matters. I've lived now
for a decade plus in a part of the country
where it is religion. Akin to religion, it is blasphemous
if you do not participate in the pomp and circumstance
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that is college football. And now that I have been
ingrained in that society for a long enough period of time,
I think it is such a better product than the NFL.
It is so much more compelling than the NFL. It
is so much easier to get attached than it is
to the NFL. It brings you so much more from
all different sides. But that is derived from the fans
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as much as it is the product on the field,
because the product on the field is still minor league
football at the end of the day. You're not gonna
tell you, I mean, but he's sitting here arguing that
Tuesday night maction is a better product than whatever the
NFL might toss up on a Thursday night or a
Monday night doubleheader, or the lowest version of the NFL. Right,
the football itself is not the issue. The thing that
makes college football special is the fans, and the fans
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have never felt more begrudged by the product or the
way that the product is being tampered with. And so,
I you're probably right, it's probably not going to see
any any kind of substantial change. I remember Mark Cuban
talking about professional football this way. I mean, it had
him in ten fifteen years ago, where he pigs get fat,
hogs get slaughtered talking about the NFL and what has
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the NFL done but take over the world and leave
the NBA.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
And it's dust.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
So maybe is so great that it's just going to
continue to overwhelm time and time again, and people will
continue to come back because football is really the thing
that carries the day. Not to interrupt.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
You, no, no, I think one hundred percent here acknowledging
that college football is my favorite sport to cover. It's
my favorite sport to just casually. But the NFL is
my favorite sport, right Like, I make no bones about that.
But this is you know, when the NFL put out
their schedule, if you want to watch every NFL game
this year, if that's the.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Power you want, so you want red zone.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
You want to be able to watch not just your
favorite team, You want to be able to watch every
game this year if you factor in the monthly subscriptions
that are required just during the months of the NFL
season to do it. When you add up the price,
it comes out to one thousand, five hundred and fifteen
dollars now this season to watch every because that includes
Sunday Ticket YouTube TV, which you would have to have
to have the Sunday Ticket during that time, Peacock just
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during that time, Netflix just during that time, Amazon Prime
just during that time, an ESPN plus during that time.
Even factoring the fact taxes and fees on this one,
you come up to fifteen hundred and fifteen dollars. That
the common like, you want to watch every game that's
not red Zone, but you want to have access to
every NFL game.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
That's what you're doing. Fifteen hundred and fifteen dollars. Man.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I remember for years, as somebody that's had red Zone
for most of my adult life, when the Raiders were good,
I would sit there and figure out, Okay, how many
games do they have that are on national TV? Do
I need to buy red Zone? How much does it
cost to go to a bar every weekend? Versus the
cost of these things, You're now at a spot where,
my god, like, at fifteen hundred dollars over the course
of your seventeen week schedule. Quick math, what is that
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seventy five eighty bucks? I don't know around that range
a weekend you're playing, you're paying just to watch football games.
Like That's that's the wild West that we've gotten into.
And so when we talk about control that TV networks have,
I think what we have to just acknowledge in this
whole process is that leagues don't care about fans. Leeds
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care about making money, and the way they make money
in today's world more than ever is TV rights, So
they're going to sell to the highest bidder. So like
there's an inevitability where YouTube is getting This year they're
streaming a game exclusively.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
They'll be free to the world on just YouTube, not
YouTube TV, just YouTube.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Like, but all of these things are sort of trials,
Like these these streaming services are only going to get
more and more content, which means you're gonna have to
pay more and more a la cart like the fans
are going to repeatedly get screwed no matter what the
sport is, including college football.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Once you accept that every sport's doing it, now.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
It's like, all right, how's college football really any worse
than the rest of them. It's just hurting a really
loyal fan base that feels like they're watching their game
change in front of their eyes. But it's inevitable because
to your point you made earlier, I have to remind everybody,
the Supreme Court ruled that all of these processes of
throttling down athletes were unconstitutional. So every time a college
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football fan starts with the well, we just got to.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Change this, this, this, this, and this.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I would remind you every time the NCAA's been sued,
they've lost, so like, there isn't a solution. There isn't
anyone that's going to protect the fans because the courts
have told you those solutions are unconstitutional.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Can I give you what is probably my most unpopular
sports opinion right now?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Oh God, I cannot wait for this. This is this
is gonna be cold Buck Rising. Our ei s I
n G on Twitter, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
I hate red zone. I can't stand it.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
It's I don't know if it is something that I
have conditioned my brain. Because for people that don't know,
I'm an NFL reporter, I cover one team. I go
to one game, I watch one game, and then I
work after the game. I'm in press conferences, we're doing
locker room like. I don't see a lot of games
until Tuesday, basically because that's my day to catch up
on the NFL when I have a bye week or
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when you know, on the rare time. Certainly not this year.
The team that I cover, the Tennessee Titans, has a
primetime game.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Not in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
I will watch red zone and be completely overwhelmed by
the fact that, like, I can't keep the thread. I
so this is I know it's a losing argument. I
know it's I'm probably the only the only person in
America that feels that way. But like, red zone is
so overwhelming to me fits and I understand that it
has gambling ramifications and fantasy ramifications and all the things,
all the different things, all the jazz hands that need
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to be added.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
To our football experience.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Because you get about twelve minutes of actual football action
throughout the course of a football game. I totally understand it.
It makes me insane, insane. I can't do it, even
though I should stop paying for it at some point,
but I can't.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
You and I actually share this. I don't like red zone.
I don't think red zone gives you enough of a
picture of the game. And I would challenge everybody when
you are listening to your favorite analyst, just one whoever
you love to listen to one week, just watch your
favorite team only on red zone.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Go back and listen to the analysis, and then watch
the whole game.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Because the number of times, like again as a Raiders fan,
the number of times I would hear people just go
off about the greatness or the terribleness of let's say
Derek Carr, and it's like, well, yeah, because you watched
red Zone, so you saw eight plays over the course
of the game. You saw the eight biggest plays, but
you didn't see the rest of the context. Like you
cannot judge a book at some level by you know,
the cliffs notes, the Hey, I'm going to give you
(31:52):
these five characters, one sentence on each.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Now go write me a book report. It's the reason
that for what I do.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
For my job for Yahoo and for Fox Sports Radio,
I go back on the NFL app and I rewatch
all the games. And as the year goes or this
season goes on, and some teams become less competitive. Yes,
when when you know the Jags inevitably are terrible this year,
I'll stop watching as much as the Jags as I
don't have to talk about him because it takes a
long time to watch all the games. But I'm with you.
(32:18):
I'm I'm actually an anti red zone. I'm glad that
red zone doesn't particularly exist for college football because I
don't think it gives you a real sense of anything
going on.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Although Scott Hansoon lovely man.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
I would never say any the man is a rock star,
a superstar in our industry.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
I have all the respect of the world for him.
I just I can't watch the product.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Oh yeah, no, his ability just to not pee for
that long is a pretty spectacular.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
There's got to be a bucket, right, Like, there's a bucket.
There's no way that he's.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Just not just not peeing.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I mean he says he doesn't. There are big gaps.
So there are big gaps where they just go to
the game for a couple of minutes. I'm like, yeah,
he's see Like most if you see an outdoor concert
and you see the semis for your favorite act on
the of the stage, most of those semis have a
bucket in there somewhere.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I've done it a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
So you have to just run off and like mid show,
especially like back when I was touring with people that
were maybe getting it after it during the show a
little bit, like I had wont too many drinks and
you're like, yeah, I don't want to be in my pants,
like I'm wearing jeans.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
People, we'll see this.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
You got to run off to the side of the
like I would imagine this Scott has right me my bucket.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Even worse than that is when you have the flu
and you're on the road, like you don't get to
cancel shows, so you just have a yack bucket like
you used to have a yack bucket out of my
keyboard sometimes. So like you know, you're just like you
finish your solo and you just leaned on your and
then like you know, after the show, somebody has to
clean that up. There's an image for you. Would you
rather coming up next? These buck Rising? I'm Jason Fitz.
That's a heck of a dace. Would you rather coming up?
(33:45):
We'll give you some of the best scenarios you've ever
heard in your entire life, and we'll figure out which
one we'd rather do.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
He's Buck Rising.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I'm Jason Fitz, hanging out for Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
onus Knocks weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz, hanging out with you
on a Monday morning. I'm not sure which one of
us is the mamas, which one of us is the papas.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
But I have a pretty good idea for two crows
in a cup of joe.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
You know it's okay, that's all right. We don't even
have to do it based on vocal in todation.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
But you know, okay, okay, okay, Well, I mean one
of us is Mama Cass and it ain't me. I'm
just saying, oh, that's a dated reference, dated reference. There by,
By the way, great job by Lorraina putting the music
together today has been spectacular work by her.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Great job.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
We're about We're about to get some spectacular work from
Justin because it's not buck You ready for this? We
always try and do this. It's time for the greatest
game show in radio history. It is time for what
you rather?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Did We get it?
Speaker 5 (34:52):
It's easy, guys, don't think too hard on would you rather?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Bucket? Tous no good?
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Or fix it? All right? Justin's gonna come in. Give
us some would you rather scenarios?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Bucketter fits it, Bucket sounds more fun, it sounds like
a hell of it. Monday, give us a we're trying
not to get fired. You can help us on this.
Give us a would you rather, and we'll see how goes?
Speaker 6 (35:18):
All right, guys, would you rather get tackled by a
pro linebacker once? Or have to explain the offside rule
to your grandma every day for a year.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Oh, I am so not interested in physical pain. I've
worked around linebackers. It seems like a deeply unpleasant experience.
I will happily explain to grand that's my grandma the
offside's rule every day for just one year.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
I could do it for a year.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
You mean, like in perpetuity, just one year, every day
for a year.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
All right, for a year. I can handle a year.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Now give me the hit. I'll take the tackle. My
little weak bones.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Look you went along with spontaneously combust there would be you.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
You would just poof a puff of smoke.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
But I don't want to have to tell Mema she's
stupid and by the fortieth or fiftieth day in a
row of explaining to the same rule and be like Mema,
I don't really like my grandma's both died before I
was one. I have no idea who my grandparents are.
But that being said, I'm out on I'm out on Mema.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Over and over and over again.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
I don't know why she's mema having a teller every
day for a year now.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I'd lose all patients.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Like Grandma, we went over this, this is off sides
over and over and over again, and then she's gonna
have follow up questions.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
That's not gonna be a quick conversation. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
I just imagine your grabbing your grandmother by the shoulders and.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Shaking her and saying, why are you so stupid?
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Oh god, you're not that far off.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
And besides, the tackle would be it would I would
take it in stride and it would be a spectacular
video of viral moment. I'm in on that getting tackled
by a linebacker in the NFL. All right, what do
you got for us next?
Speaker 6 (37:00):
I would also take the tackle by the way boom
see see to me, that's that's something you can tell why,
that's something you can tell your grand like kids about.
But then like telling your grandmother who like who you're
going to brag to, like you can say, oh, I
got tackled by you, know, so whether.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
You wants to do it for the bragging rights and
the other ones, the social media moment you're a part
of this cloud chasing society, and you can both.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
Go to hell, all right, next one, would you rather
be the worst player on a championship team or the
best player on a team that never wins?
Speaker 1 (37:36):
No best player on a team that never wins. Look,
I think the only thing that you you have is
the pride that you take in the work that you do.
So you know, in my mind, I take so much
pride in the work that I've been a part of.
You know, I I don't care whether if it doesn't
result in a championship. But I did my damnedest and
I went out there and showed who I was every
single day. I could take personal pride in that, like,
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rather than being the hangar on that is somehow getting
it app doesn't deserve he or she doesn't deserve.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
That's a very noble way to say what I want
to say, which is I'm a show pony.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Baby.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
You gotta let me trot like. That's that's what it is.
I don't need your rings. I just need to know
that I'm the best. I need you to know that
I'm the best. I already know that I'm the best.
This is just how it's gonna work. Charles Barkley living
a pretty good life with no rings.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
I could do it too. Giddy up, all right?
Speaker 6 (38:25):
Would you rather have to wear a mouthguard twenty four
to seven or shoulder pads to every social event?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
He should?
Speaker 4 (38:33):
I should probably be wearing shoulder pads to every social
event at this point in my life, just based on
how Memorial Weekend, Memorial Day weekend has gone for me,
the amount of drool that I think would result from
the mouthpiece all the time, I think the shoulder pads
are a much safer play.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
No, no, no, If I wear shoulder pads, it's gonna
look like the eighties, like women's outfits it all had
the big, like puffy shoulders on them. Because I'm such
a little dude, like that's not gonna be a becoming
look on me. I'll go with the inevitability of making
people trying to understand me.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
With a mouth guard. I'm in on that one.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
I just imagine you, like it's like the turtle. You're
just like a turtle in the in the helmet and
are in the shoulder pads.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
You know, see different if it's if it's modern shoulder
pads or like nineties shoulder pads.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Now we're talking like Michael Bennetts shoulder pads that he's wearing, Like,
you know.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
We shoulder pads.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
They're gonna be the beefiest shoulder pads you've ever seen
in your damn life. Also, I'm trying to figure out
this turtle thing, Like does that mean?
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Like so I'm a cute little turtle though?
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Right?
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Like I'm an adorable turtle, right like you're you're.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
You wouldn't be an ugly turtle, you know what, I'll.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Take that as a hell of a compliment. I don't
know what to.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Make of that. He's buck rising on Jason fitz Hope
you guys have a wonderful Memorial Day.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Thanks for sharing some of it with us on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
See you
If there's any piece of sage advice that you need
going into every Knicks game for the rest of the year,
it's simple. Midway through the game, when you feel the
temptation to open Twitter x and you feel like you
need to say something about the game, follow Herm's advice.
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Don't press send, because at the end of the day,
all you're gonna do is look like an idiot. An
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Knicks fan's getting some nice sleep today, but who's not
getting any sleep? Buck, It's pretty simple. Everybody that decided
to tweet with about fifteen minutes left in the game
(01:03):
that the Knicks were getting absolutely murdered, they were That's fine.
But we see he even noted media people that should
know better turning this game off.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Knicks are dead. This thing's over.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Media people that you know love the attention, Like I
don't know, barstool out there are just constantly telling us,
I mean, portnoy on one the whole thing, And I'm looking.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
At him like the hell are you thinking?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Because if there's any one thing we can count on
in this year's playoffs is that the bigger the lead
you have against the Knicks, the more uncomfortable you should be.
Yet again, they were down by as many as twenty
in this game, which is the way they went. So
it doesn't make any sense to anybody. But I don't
understand why you can, right now, in good conscious tweet
anything until the clock actually hits double zeros when it
(01:44):
comes to the New York team.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Why would you personally attack me that way?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, I'm just you know, I'm just setting the no
no no message.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
You talked all the way around it, and.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
You didn't even I mean, you don't even look me
in the eyes anymore. All Right, this is supposed to
be We're supposed to get communicate. This is a relationship.
We have to be upfront and honest with people with
one another. Otherwise it's never going to work. Why wouldn't
you just look at me and say, why did you
tweet about the Knicks being left for dead potentially down three,
down twenty points against the Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Why?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I think the important thing here is that you had
the opportunity to really own it for yourself. The important
thing here is that you have the opportunity to complete
because I just look, there's certain things I've learned as.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I don't want to read nothing except for the way
that they got played out and Karl Anthony Towns in
the entire experience, go Pacers.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
You never have you never have any sort of regrets.
That's a Buck Rising and regret don't really like I.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Don't reflect me much to be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yeah, I just keep doing it A volume shooter, baby,
I'm Russell Westbrook out here.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
If Buck Rising woke up in the movie The Hangover,
like with the Caesars suitet, trash, a lie or a
tiger sorry in the bathroom, a baby in the closet,
Buck would look around and he would say, must have
had a good night, and then he would just go
about his day. Like if I was missing on the roof.
Buck would not look for me. Buck would just be like,
here's a grown ass man, He'll figure it out. We're
(03:14):
all adults. I'm gonna go hit the casino. That's how
Buck lives. And so I look, I appreciate that about you.
I appreciate the consistency here, because if you weren't out
there snarky on the world wide interwebs, then who would
you be.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I respect it. I just think my.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Entire personalities and derived off my twitter's that's that's as
bad as sad as a state of affairs as you
could possibly have.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
At least it's not derived at your TikTok. I mean,
that's that's a personal growth.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I just think that this year, given what we saw
against I don't know, the Celtics, maybe this is the
year to draft that. Like you you write it out,
you draft it, and you realize, I'm not going to
be first to market on this one. I'm just gonna
be right to it. Like the number of times, this
is what I do. When I watch the Raiders. Right
Raiders go up by three touchdown, I'm immediately like I'll
(04:01):
write the tweet of like, oh feels good, and then
I'll just delete it because I know that I don't
want the blowback that comes from the eventual disappointment that's going.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
To be there for me. Like this is, these are
life lessons.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Look, let me be the older brother here and give
you the life lesson that you need. Yeah, condescendingly, I'm
coming with my walker and be like, let me tell
you Sonny about this, Like, I'm just I'm here to
help you, brother.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I'm here to help you not tweet during your next game.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I just I just wanted to.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I want it to be noted that it's the much
much older brother handing down this advice at this particular
point in time.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
That makes you the mistake kid, Like you were definitely
the like Mom and Dad thought they were out of
the woods.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
They thought they could do the hibbity dibbity with no no.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
They thought they could do hibbity and dibbity and not
have to worry about it. And instead they're like, well,
son of a biscuit, here we go having another one
of these Like that. That's that's where our relationship is.
You are fine, you are I'm the problem, older child.
You are the mistake.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I will wear that mantle proudly, and I will rage
tweet through sporting events and you will never be able
to tell me not to because nothing about that your
your approach. Your approach sounds almost like therapy. Like before
you make a rash decision, you count to ten before
you say something that you probably shouldn't say. You count
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to ten before you tweet about the next being dead
and buried and gone. You put it out there, you
save it in the draft. You count to ten, and
then you see if that tweet is still worth sending
in a ten second span, because last night, if you
were watching the fourth quarter that tweet, you would have
had the opportunity. And now they give you the edit button.
I think if you pay for Twitter, they give you
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the edit button. At this particular point in time.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Maybe if you get the blue check some of us
get the blue check mark just because of our status,
Like they just give you the blue check mark. So
some of us, you know, we're just sort of like
Twitter came in and they're like, you, sir, deserve a
blue check mark, and.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
So you just get it for free. You know. Me
and Lebron like we're basically living in the same.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
House and I'm the elitist. I think that.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
When you talk about the way that I guess the
thing about this is have no expectation about how these
games are going to play out, because it is impossible
to continue to expect the Knicks down twenty plus at
any point throughout the course of these playoffs to still
find miraculous ways to come back and win. And this
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was not a miraculous basketball game by any stretch of
the imagination. It was a miraculous fourth quarter. It was
a miraculous fourth quarter performance from a player who has
I don't know, questionable viability as to how much of
a truly star player in the NBA Karl Anthony Towns is.
But you know what, he did it when they absolutely
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needed him. He did it on apparently a knee that
is not feeling particularly great right now. Because the way
that the next play and how short the bench of
the Knicks is throughout the course of this playoffs will
just grind you down. And frankly, that's the biggest reason
why I wonder how sustainable all of this is, because
the Knicks have to white knuckle their way through these
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moments at any given point in time, and it seems
exhausting and it seems unsustainable. And yet here we are, fitsy,
how many shows have we done throughout the course of
the NBA postseason, through now the three rounds that we
have been through talking about the next doing something that
they absolutely have no business doing, whether it be Jalen
Brunson in these clutch moments, whether it be the Karl
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Anthony Towns moments plural that he's given us, and to
his credit, he absolutely has. I just I don't know,
is it just lazy analysis of me to sit here,
to watch these Nick games, to say to myself, they
can't keep getting away with this, and then they continue
to get away with it. I don't know why my
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brain is so wired to think that the Knicks aren't
capable of doing it when they continue to show that.
You can't outright leave them for dead because you tried.
You tried to kill them against the Celtics.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I did try to kill them against the Celtics.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
You're right.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
It feels to me like I use this analogy a lot,
but like if you've ever had a buddy that walks
in and gets a scratch off lottery ticket and suddenly
that's how they pay the mortgage and they're like, oh
my god, I paid the mortgage. Well a month later
they're suddenly in the same situation and they go buy
the scratch off lottery ticket.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
You're like, that's not a smart way to pay your mortgage.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
But it worked again and again and again, and at
some point you look at it and say, hey, it's
better to be lucky than good. I don't think you
can consistently put yourself in twenty point holes and rely
on that to be the strategy of how you get
yourself an NBA championship at some point.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
That being said, their.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Sticktuitiveness when they're down by big quantity, that's something. But
also look at what happened in this game for Indiana,
fewest number of threes that they've attempted all playoffs, lowest
shooting percentage they've had from three point range all playoffs.
And you could say, well, that's suffocating defense down the stretch.
There were some really good closing defense by the next
I take nothing away from that, but overall, are they
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going to be like if the method to winning against
Indiana night in and night out is needing a massive
quarter from Karl Anthony Towns and needing the Pacers to
not be able to find good looks from three, not
be able to make the looks they have at an
unprecedented level, Like that doesn't feel like something that is
necessarily necessarily going to be repeated over and over and
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over in this series. So I feel like Indiana has
a pretty clear cut example of what they need to
get right for the next game.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
And I trust that they will.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
That being said, if I'm the Knicks, I just yeah,
at this point, it is part I'm on a heater,
And it looked like if you play craps, you got
the buddy that comes in and puts, you know, one
hundred bucks on black over and over and over and over.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Again, and every once in a while it works. But
here's what happens.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
We see that person at the crafts table the one
night that it's working, and we're like, oh my god,
they're kissed by the gods of gambling.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
They must own the casino.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
What you don't see is the other two hundred times
this year they tried that lost all their damn money. Right, Like,
at some point these things sort of regress to the means.
I believe that it's point the consequence that have caused
the Knicks to get into large deficits will be the
thing that eventually kills them in the playoffs. I stand
by that math, even though right now, to be fair,
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you're right, the math ain't math.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Well, and it's I think you said this in maybe
not so many words, but whose issues are more correctable
throughout the course of this series?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Is it Indiana or is it New York?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
The Pacers are the best shooting team left in the
field across the board by percentage, and they had it
off night, and they are a team that is going
to find ways to correct those mistakes and find ways
to get their shots. Now, the nationsmith injury is going
to be interesting here as far as their defense because
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how much time he might miss.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Or is expected to miss.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
I haven't seen any reporting or any follow ups as
of this morning other than that he needed to come
out of that game, and that is a critical loss
for them. So perhaps we're talking about I mean, injuries
have played a role throughout.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
The course of this playoffs.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Look no further than the Cleveland Cavaliers and how completely
ravaged they were throughout the course of that series and
how much of a massive impact that had on the
entire postseason where it's one of the best regular season teams,
the Calves, and they just they just didn't have the
horses left to continue to keep pace with the no
pun intended the Pacers throughout the course of that series.
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Indiana's issues are more correctable. New York seems to be
more capable of these spectacular moments.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
But what would you rather rely upon?
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Would you rather rely upon the devil, you know, or
just kind of leaving your fate up to Okay, well.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Brunson's gonna get us again this time.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Our cat's gonna have an unbelievable fourth quarter, and we're
gonna we're just gonna We're gonna do this thing based
off vibes, damn it, and we're gonna make our way
through the entire postseason that way. I know it's it's
more scientific than that. But as we've talked about before,
and I'm certain that I don't have to tell Knicks fans.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
This, Nobody is briefed.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Nobody in New York or anybody who can about this
basketball team across the country or frankly, across the basketball
consuming world, is breathing any kind of sigh of relief.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Being down to one in the series with a.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Team that is still completely viable, and frankly, I think
a better top to bottom basketball team than New York
is right now. New York has just had incredible moments
throughout the course of this postseason that have defined the
way that we've talked about them.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Better to be lucky than good, but you got to
be both to win a championship, and I think Indiana
is better.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Update on the poll.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
We asked if you had to pick one player remaining
in the NBA playoffs to build your team around, which
one would it be. We picked a star from each
of the four remaining teams. Jalen Brunson in last place
at this point, not even close, Tyrese Haliburton in third.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
But we do have a change at the top.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
SGA getting forty percent of the vote, Anthony Edwards getting
forty two percent of the vote. So the world is
coming around to our logic. We'll keep you updated on
the poll obviously. Guys can keep chiming in at Fox
Sports Radio at Buck Rising at JA fits. In the meantime,
college football is changing and it's never been better. We'll
tell you about it next. He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz.
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Speaker 5 (13:11):
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Speaker 1 (13:25):
It's two Pros and a Cup of Joe on Fox
Sports Radio. He's Buck Rising, I'm Jason Fitz. It's Bucking
Fits takeover. College football is perfect. No, I joke that
college football is perfect, but I will say this college
football fans. We mentioned it earlier in the show Constantly
Up in Arms right, and the news this week came
out that college football is going to get rid of
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any of the automatic seeding advantages you saw from the
college football playoffs. So, for example, the highest ranked Group
of five team is still guaranteed a playoff spot, but
now they will be in the playoffs based on wherever
their ranking is. So this year, if the highest ranked
Group five team is let's say I don't know U
and LV and they're right number twenty three, they will
not suddenly find themselves in a top four seed with
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the first round by.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
None of that advantage still exists.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
So while they will get into the playoffs, the seeding
the playoffs will be done in a way that matches
the rankings of the teams, which I think is important.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
But Buck, look, I think this was a smart change.
It all makes sense.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
You watched Indiana football last year sort of take the
world by storm, but then we watched some of these
non traditional teams get their butts kicked in the playoffs.
To me, the one thing that really stands out, though,
is like, at some point, if your college football just
rip the band aid off, whatever changes you got, because
college football fans hate any change that ever comes through
the door, so it doesn't matter what it is. And
I'm so tired of this very false narrative that NIL
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is killing that change, the playoff expansion and NIL and
conference expansion is all killing college football. It's like, well,
I don't know, the ratings are pretty spectacular, and the
money being made by everybody's pretty spectacular, and people are
getting rich and everybody's still going to I don't think
the system's broken. I just think the college football fans
are traditionalists, kind of like baseball fans, and they hate
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any change to their sport.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
So to me, I would just take a pause on everything.
I'd look at it and say, what do we want
the playoffs to be? How do we want it to be?
Speaker 1 (15:13):
I'd rip the whole thing apart and make guy ginormous
changes right now, all at once, just in a way
that's like, hey, we've ripped a partner sport, but here's
the new version of it.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Fall in love with it or don't? We don't care?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Why do you think that hasn't happened yet?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Genuine look, because honestly, I think everybody is scrambling to
figure out the whise the house and the rights, and
because nobody has been sitting here thinking forward thinking like
everything that's happening to the NCAA right now is their
own fault. Nil is the is their own fault. They
never managed any of these situations when they had the
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opportunity to, so now all of a sudden they're scrambling
to try and figure out how to do it, and
piece by piece is like, well that's a good idea
and it's better than what we have, so let's just
do that.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I don't know that you can recover that way.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
You can't.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
And that's been the biggest issue that they are in
danger of taking advantage of one of the most loyal
audiences in any sport whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Fitsy.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
It's not just because you are obviously familiar with the
SEC country and I live in Nashville, Tennessee, which is
right in the heart of SEC country, and we both
understand that college football in the Southeast is tribal. It's
an entirely different it's it's as close to I think
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European soccer and the passion that the fans have as
anything that we have in American sports.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Right, it is.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Singular that way. It is, it is sacred that way,
it is passed down, it is in people's blood, and
they are at risk because they are so reactive as
opposed to being proactive in the way that they're governing
their sport. And really it's collegiate athletics as whole as
a whole, but we understand that for the purposes of
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revenue general, college football is always going to be king
there and that is the thing that is going to
drive the change first and foremost, and everything else just
has to go along.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
In the wake of college football.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
You have conference commissioners taking matters into their own hands,
because the NCAA can't be trusted to govern their own
sport as the foremost governing body. And I say foremost
in air quotes, which with as much sarcasm as humanly possible,
they have been thoroughly and utterly in nept and I
know that again, it is the easiest version of the
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conversation to say, well, the NCAA sucks and they've wrecked
this for all of us, and they've let the corporations
and the television networks come in here and ravage the
thing that makes the most sense, because the question that
they are not asking themselves at the end of the
day fitsie, is is this good for the sport? That's
not the job of the television networks to consider, right,
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It's not their job to consider what is in the
best interest in the health and the future viability of
this sport. There is supposed to be a body that
is tasked with overseeing that, with governing that, with policing that,
with protecting that. It's sure as hell not respectfully, Fox
and ESPN and everybody else that's bidding for live rights,
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their job is to do the best thing possible for
the network, for the shareholders, for all the people that
are financially invested in this thing, but it is coming
at the expense of the sport. And how we go
about trying to figure out the fact that we're just
putting a placeholder in on this straight seating model because
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this isn't going to matter next year, it's going to
be a sixteen team playoff. This is just kind of
like a one year all right, We'll see how it
goes f around and fact find out type of situation,
and it may be better, it may ultimately end up benefiting.
I don't know if you're going to ever eliminate there's
no perfect formula to eliminate blowouts in the postseason. I mean, hell,
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we're getting ready to talk about or I mean, we
have talked about today a series between the Minnesota Timberwolves
and the Oklahoma City Thunder that was completely non competitive
in game three, and we're talking about conference finals.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Like at the highest of highs.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
College football has protected itself pretty well against that. But
you're I mean the SMUs of the world and Indiana's
there's always going to be an SMU in Indiana in
this model of the College FOOTBA playoff.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
In fact, they're creating.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Environment, an environment for more of those things to happen
and just make the games relevant later into the season
and to get more juice at a having, you know,
college football playoff games on campuses. But if there was
somebody with the foresight to do exactly what you're talking about,
it would.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Have been done.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
They've left this entire thing open to what they've chalked
up to the exploratory period. That exploratory period since the
Supreme Court voted that college sports in the previous month
model was actually unconstitutional. We're going on four and five
years of an exploratory period of people just effing around
and trying to figure out and they've done so. I
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wouldn't say poorly, because it still makes money, it's still rates,
it's still football at the end of the day. But
again I am I am genuinely concerned fits that this
is the one sport more than any other, that is
as at risk of taking advantage of its fan base's
goodwill as any that we're talking about purely for the
sake of the dollar.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
He's buck rising up, Jason Fitz.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
I agree with some of that, but I also think
that's what's happened across the board like, is is putting
an NFL playoff game on exclusively on a streaming app
really good for the growth of the game. No, but
it makes teams a bunch of money. It is putting
Major League Baseball god knows where it ends up half
the time, Like, is that good for the sport? No,
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but it's good for money the NBA. I mean, they
look at all the conversations about TTT and TTNT over
and over again, and it's like, well, don't really care.
We care where we're going to make the most money.
That's what everybody's out for this point. And the hard
part of college football is like, look, you can you
can pick whatever metric you want if I'm being fair,
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if you want to say, hey, look at the championship.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
In the playoff, college.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Football ratings were down for some of that, right, But
if you look at the regular season, college football ratings
were up. In fact, the bowl games were supposed to
get killed, but bowl games were up fifteen percent this
year for ESPN, which is a huge number a year
over year. So like, I think your point is an
important one here, because a peak behind the curtain. I mean,
I hosted College Football Live for ESPN for multiple years, right.
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So one thing that fans are always convinced of is
that the network partners are coming in and say, no,
we really need Texas to win. That just doesn't happen,
Like there is not an edict where they come in
and say, guys, we need the following teams like it
doesn't they know people are going to watch, like it's
not that difficult. So this concept that any of the
networks are biasing you know, the college Football Playoff or
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the College Football Selection Committee, like that just doesn't exist.
I covered the College Football Selection Committee in person, and
you know, remotely on digital shows for ESPN that were.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
The highest level of coverage for it.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I can tell you one hundred percent that ESPN never
was was contact.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Just why conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
ESPN's not going into the committee saying what we really
need is a ratings matchup here. Most of the committee
members aren't even thinking about that.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Like all of this becomes.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I think college football fans feel so disrespected by the
way that this has all been done that the only
way that you can make logic of atter sense of
it is to believe that there's some great grand conspiracy theory.
The fact is everybody's out for money, like the TV
partners are out from and that's why it's going to go.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
To sixteen games.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
So my thing is, if we're going to go to
sixteen games anyway, why tweak the playoff this year? Just
blow it up, give us sixteen games. Like everybody's already uncomfortable.
The faster you just get to rock bottom for the
existing fan base, the more you can rebuild in this
uncomfortable landscape. Because I do believe at their even if
there are people today that say, well, I hate where
football's going, I'm not gonna watch this anymore.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Okay, if your.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Grandfather and your grandmother, like if they were die hard
Balls fans, and you live in Tennessee and Valls fans
have been in your life for forty fifty years, and
you sit there and say, I'm giving up on them, Okay,
hit me. When the college football playoff happens and the
Balls are.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
In it, you watch them.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Because I think most people have that fandom, especially in
the South and the Midwest, for the Big Ten, in
the SEC, in the Big twelve. The fandom is so
cooked into who you are as a person. Even if
you wanted to turn it off, I don't think most
fans can, and that's what college football's relying on. We
can screw over everybody because at the end of the day,
as long as at some point we normalize the ship,
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people will hop back on whatever that ship looks like.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Yeah, but you don't think there's any danger of seeing
that depreciate because we're in a unique time, I think
in terms of just sports fandom generally, where you can
consume something like the NBA via social media without having
to watch a single regular season game. You can know
all the players, you can track the stats, you can
have as much information as anybody is capable of having,
but you don't watch the games. Now football is different
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because the inventory is so much less, the stakes are
much much higher. College football is trying to find ways
to continue to raise those stakes.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
And prolong the amount of fan.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Bases that they can keep through November and into December
and into January, where that in a lot of situations
once you get to bowl eligibility and no real shot
at a national championship. The way that I mean, I
don't know how many how many FBS college football programs
are there right now, one hundred and thirty something like
for the vast majority of them, You're still talking about
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the same four, or likely the same combination of four
at the top of the heap, even if you continue
to expand the field that way.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
So I get what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
I don't think that this is anything that is immediate,
For example, that we would see just a ratings drop
off from college football because fans are just sick and
tired of being taken advantage of. But if you told
me that the there was one sport where you might
see people start to chip away at that, or business
start to chip away at what is something that has
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been safeguarded so well, it's so much different than the
NFL fitsy. I for the longest time in my life
had no interest in college football. I'm not from a
part of the country where it matters. I've lived now
for a decade plus in a part of the country
where it is religion. Akin to religion, it is blasphemous
if you do not participate in the pomp and circumstance
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that is college football. And now that I have been
ingrained in that society for a long enough period of time,
I think it is such a better product than the NFL.
It is so much more compelling than the NFL. It
is so much easier to get attached than it is
to the NFL. It brings you so much more from
all different sides. But that is derived from the fans
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as much as it is the product on the field,
because the product on the field is still minor league
football at the end of the day. You're not gonna
tell you, I mean, but he's sitting here arguing that
Tuesday night maction is a better product than whatever the
NFL might toss up on a Thursday night or a
Monday night doubleheader, or the lowest version of the NFL. Right,
the football itself is not the issue. The thing that
makes college football special is the fans, and the fans
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have never felt more begrudged by the product or the
way that the product is being tampered with. And so,
I you're probably right, it's probably not going to see
any any kind of substantial change. I remember Mark Cuban
talking about professional football this way. I mean, it had
him in ten fifteen years ago, where he pigs get fat,
hogs get slaughtered talking about the NFL and what has
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the NFL done but take over the world and leave
the NBA.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
And it's dust.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
So maybe is so great that it's just going to
continue to overwhelm time and time again, and people will
continue to come back because football is really the thing
that carries the day. Not to interrupt.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
You, no, no, I think one hundred percent here acknowledging
that college football is my favorite sport to cover. It's
my favorite sport to just casually. But the NFL is
my favorite sport, right Like, I make no bones about that.
But this is you know, when the NFL put out
their schedule, if you want to watch every NFL game
this year, if that's the.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Power you want, so you want red zone.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
You want to be able to watch not just your
favorite team, You want to be able to watch every
game this year if you factor in the monthly subscriptions
that are required just during the months of the NFL
season to do it. When you add up the price,
it comes out to one thousand, five hundred and fifteen
dollars now this season to watch every because that includes
Sunday Ticket YouTube TV, which you would have to have
to have the Sunday Ticket during that time, Peacock just
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during that time, Netflix just during that time, Amazon Prime
just during that time, an ESPN plus during that time.
Even factoring the fact taxes and fees on this one,
you come up to fifteen hundred and fifteen dollars. That
the common like, you want to watch every game that's
not red Zone, but you want to have access to
every NFL game.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
That's what you're doing. Fifteen hundred and fifteen dollars. Man.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I remember for years, as somebody that's had red Zone
for most of my adult life, when the Raiders were good,
I would sit there and figure out, Okay, how many
games do they have that are on national TV? Do
I need to buy red Zone? How much does it
cost to go to a bar every weekend? Versus the
cost of these things, You're now at a spot where,
my god, like, at fifteen hundred dollars over the course
of your seventeen week schedule. Quick math, what is that
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seventy five eighty bucks? I don't know around that range
a weekend you're playing, you're paying just to watch football games.
Like That's that's the wild West that we've gotten into.
And so when we talk about control that TV networks have,
I think what we have to just acknowledge in this
whole process is that leagues don't care about fans. Leeds
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care about making money, and the way they make money
in today's world more than ever is TV rights, So
they're going to sell to the highest bidder. So like
there's an inevitability where YouTube is getting This year they're
streaming a game exclusively.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
They'll be free to the world on just YouTube, not
YouTube TV, just YouTube.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Like, but all of these things are sort of trials,
Like these these streaming services are only going to get
more and more content, which means you're gonna have to
pay more and more a la cart like the fans
are going to repeatedly get screwed no matter what the
sport is, including college football.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Once you accept that every sport's doing it, now.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
It's like, all right, how's college football really any worse
than the rest of them. It's just hurting a really
loyal fan base that feels like they're watching their game
change in front of their eyes. But it's inevitable because
to your point you made earlier, I have to remind everybody,
the Supreme Court ruled that all of these processes of
throttling down athletes were unconstitutional. So every time a college
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football fan starts with the well, we just got to.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Change this, this, this, this, and this.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I would remind you every time the NCAA's been sued,
they've lost, so like, there isn't a solution. There isn't
anyone that's going to protect the fans because the courts
have told you those solutions are unconstitutional.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Can I give you what is probably my most unpopular
sports opinion right now?
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Oh God, I cannot wait for this. This is this
is gonna be cold Buck Rising. Our ei s I
n G on Twitter, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
I hate red zone. I can't stand it.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
It's I don't know if it is something that I
have conditioned my brain. Because for people that don't know,
I'm an NFL reporter, I cover one team. I go
to one game, I watch one game, and then I
work after the game. I'm in press conferences, we're doing
locker room like. I don't see a lot of games
until Tuesday, basically because that's my day to catch up
on the NFL when I have a bye week or
(30:27):
when you know, on the rare time. Certainly not this year.
The team that I cover, the Tennessee Titans, has a
primetime game.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Not in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
I will watch red zone and be completely overwhelmed by
the fact that, like, I can't keep the thread. I
so this is I know it's a losing argument. I
know it's I'm probably the only the only person in
America that feels that way. But like, red zone is
so overwhelming to me fits and I understand that it
has gambling ramifications and fantasy ramifications and all the things,
all the different things, all the jazz hands that need
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to be added.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
To our football experience.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
Because you get about twelve minutes of actual football action
throughout the course of a football game. I totally understand it.
It makes me insane, insane. I can't do it, even
though I should stop paying for it at some point,
but I can't.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
You and I actually share this. I don't like red zone.
I don't think red zone gives you enough of a
picture of the game. And I would challenge everybody when
you are listening to your favorite analyst, just one whoever
you love to listen to one week, just watch your
favorite team only on red zone.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Go back and listen to the analysis, and then watch
the whole game.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Because the number of times, like again as a Raiders fan,
the number of times I would hear people just go
off about the greatness or the terribleness of let's say
Derek Carr, and it's like, well, yeah, because you watched
red Zone, so you saw eight plays over the course
of the game. You saw the eight biggest plays, but
you didn't see the rest of the context. Like you
cannot judge a book at some level by you know,
the cliffs notes, the Hey, I'm going to give you
(31:52):
these five characters, one sentence on each.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Now go write me a book report. It's the reason
that for what I do.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
For my job for Yahoo and for Fox Sports Radio,
I go back on the NFL app and I rewatch
all the games. And as the year goes or this
season goes on, and some teams become less competitive. Yes,
when when you know the Jags inevitably are terrible this year,
I'll stop watching as much as the Jags as I
don't have to talk about him because it takes a
long time to watch all the games. But I'm with you.
(32:18):
I'm I'm actually an anti red zone. I'm glad that
red zone doesn't particularly exist for college football because I
don't think it gives you a real sense of anything
going on.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Although Scott Hansoon lovely man.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
I would never say any the man is a rock star,
a superstar in our industry.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
I have all the respect of the world for him.
I just I can't watch the product.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Oh yeah, no, his ability just to not pee for
that long is a pretty spectacular.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
There's got to be a bucket, right, Like, there's a bucket.
There's no way that he's.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Just not just not peeing.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I mean he says he doesn't. There are big gaps.
So there are big gaps where they just go to
the game for a couple of minutes. I'm like, yeah,
he's see Like most if you see an outdoor concert
and you see the semis for your favorite act on
the of the stage, most of those semis have a
bucket in there somewhere.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I've done it a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
So you have to just run off and like mid show,
especially like back when I was touring with people that
were maybe getting it after it during the show a
little bit, like I had wont too many drinks and
you're like, yeah, I don't want to be in my pants,
like I'm wearing jeans.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
People, we'll see this.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
You got to run off to the side of the
like I would imagine this Scott has right me my bucket.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Even worse than that is when you have the flu
and you're on the road, like you don't get to
cancel shows, so you just have a yack bucket like
you used to have a yack bucket out of my
keyboard sometimes. So like you know, you're just like you
finish your solo and you just leaned on your and
then like you know, after the show, somebody has to
clean that up. There's an image for you. Would you
rather coming up next? These buck Rising? I'm Jason Fitz.
That's a heck of a dace. Would you rather coming up?
(33:45):
We'll give you some of the best scenarios you've ever
heard in your entire life, and we'll figure out which
one we'd rather do.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
He's Buck Rising.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
I'm Jason Fitz, hanging out for Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
onus Knocks weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz, hanging out with you
on a Monday morning. I'm not sure which one of
us is the mamas, which one of us is the papas.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
But I have a pretty good idea for two crows
in a cup of joe.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
You know it's okay, that's all right. We don't even
have to do it based on vocal in todation.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
But you know, okay, okay, okay, Well, I mean one
of us is Mama Cass and it ain't me. I'm
just saying, oh, that's a dated reference, dated reference. There by,
By the way, great job by Lorraina putting the music
together today has been spectacular work by her.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Great job.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
We're about We're about to get some spectacular work from
Justin because it's not buck You ready for this? We
always try and do this. It's time for the greatest
game show in radio history. It is time for what
you rather?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Did We get it?
Speaker 5 (34:52):
It's easy, guys, don't think too hard on would you rather?
Speaker 3 (34:57):
Bucket? Tous no good?
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Or fix it? All right? Justin's gonna come in. Give
us some would you rather scenarios?
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Bucketter fits it, Bucket sounds more fun, it sounds like
a hell of it. Monday, give us a we're trying
not to get fired. You can help us on this.
Give us a would you rather, and we'll see how goes?
Speaker 6 (35:18):
All right, guys, would you rather get tackled by a
pro linebacker once? Or have to explain the offside rule
to your grandma every day for a year.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
Oh, I am so not interested in physical pain. I've
worked around linebackers. It seems like a deeply unpleasant experience.
I will happily explain to grand that's my grandma the
offside's rule every day for just one year.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
I could do it for a year.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
You mean, like in perpetuity, just one year, every day
for a year.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
All right, for a year. I can handle a year.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Now give me the hit. I'll take the tackle. My
little weak bones.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Look you went along with spontaneously combust there would be you.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
You would just poof a puff of smoke.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
But I don't want to have to tell Mema she's
stupid and by the fortieth or fiftieth day in a
row of explaining to the same rule and be like Mema,
I don't really like my grandma's both died before I
was one. I have no idea who my grandparents are.
But that being said, I'm out on I'm out on Mema.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Over and over and over again.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
I don't know why she's mema having a teller every
day for a year now.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I'd lose all patients.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Like Grandma, we went over this, this is off sides
over and over and over again, and then she's gonna
have follow up questions.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
That's not gonna be a quick conversation. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
I just imagine your grabbing your grandmother by the shoulders and.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Shaking her and saying, why are you so stupid?
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Oh god, you're not that far off.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
And besides, the tackle would be it would I would
take it in stride and it would be a spectacular
video of viral moment. I'm in on that getting tackled
by a linebacker in the NFL. All right, what do
you got for us next?
Speaker 6 (37:00):
I would also take the tackle by the way boom
see see to me, that's that's something you can tell why,
that's something you can tell your grand like kids about.
But then like telling your grandmother who like who you're
going to brag to, like you can say, oh, I
got tackled by you, know, so whether.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
You wants to do it for the bragging rights and
the other ones, the social media moment you're a part
of this cloud chasing society, and you can both.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
Go to hell, all right, next one, would you rather
be the worst player on a championship team or the
best player on a team that never wins?
Speaker 1 (37:36):
No best player on a team that never wins. Look,
I think the only thing that you you have is
the pride that you take in the work that you do.
So you know, in my mind, I take so much
pride in the work that I've been a part of.
You know, I I don't care whether if it doesn't
result in a championship. But I did my damnedest and
I went out there and showed who I was every
single day. I could take personal pride in that, like,
(37:56):
rather than being the hangar on that is somehow getting
it app doesn't deserve he or she doesn't deserve.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
That's a very noble way to say what I want
to say, which is I'm a show pony.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Baby.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
You gotta let me trot like. That's that's what it is.
I don't need your rings. I just need to know
that I'm the best. I need you to know that
I'm the best. I already know that I'm the best.
This is just how it's gonna work. Charles Barkley living
a pretty good life with no rings.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
I could do it too. Giddy up, all right?
Speaker 6 (38:25):
Would you rather have to wear a mouthguard twenty four
to seven or shoulder pads to every social event?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
He should?
Speaker 4 (38:33):
I should probably be wearing shoulder pads to every social
event at this point in my life, just based on
how Memorial Weekend, Memorial Day weekend has gone for me,
the amount of drool that I think would result from
the mouthpiece all the time, I think the shoulder pads
are a much safer play.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
No, no, no, If I wear shoulder pads, it's gonna
look like the eighties, like women's outfits it all had
the big, like puffy shoulders on them. Because I'm such
a little dude, like that's not gonna be a becoming
look on me. I'll go with the inevitability of making
people trying to understand me.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
With a mouth guard. I'm in on that one.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
I just imagine you, like it's like the turtle. You're
just like a turtle in the in the helmet and
are in the shoulder pads.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
You know, see different if it's if it's modern shoulder
pads or like nineties shoulder pads.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Now we're talking like Michael Bennetts shoulder pads that he's wearing, Like,
you know.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
We shoulder pads.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
They're gonna be the beefiest shoulder pads you've ever seen
in your damn life. Also, I'm trying to figure out
this turtle thing, Like does that mean?
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Like so I'm a cute little turtle though?
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Right?
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Like I'm an adorable turtle, right like you're you're.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
You wouldn't be an ugly turtle, you know what, I'll.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Take that as a hell of a compliment. I don't
know what to.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Make of that. He's buck rising on Jason fitz Hope
you guys have a wonderful Memorial Day.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Thanks for sharing some of it with us on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
See you
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