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Speaker 2 (01:10):
Hey guys, thank you, Thank you Jesus. It has been
quite a show. People can leave me alone? And so
are they still hitting me up today? No? Okay, no, no,
not that I could see it. Yeah, and end.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
So there is a little bit of an issue in
the NFL. There's a lot of second round draft picks
who haven't signed their contracts yet, and this goes back
to the first two picks of the second round getting
guaranteed contracts and now everybody else is just kind of waiting.
Trey Harris of the Chargers did not report the camp, so.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
He's only like two that are signed out of all
of the second round picks. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Two, So we've got thirty of thirty two that are
not signed to fully guaranteed contracts. Quinn Shawn Jenkins. That's
a little bit of a snag in things. He got
arrested over the weekend, domestic battery or about that one.
Not great, but thirty of the thirty two are still
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waiting to get their deals done, and so the question
becomes do all of them just get guaranteed contracts? Has
everybody DoD Is this how this is going to go?
Or is this going to play out and linger all
the way through training camp? Mike Florio made the point
in talking with an agent who reached out to him,
why didn't they do this sooner like they participated in
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all the earlier stuff this offseason. So now training camp
rolls around and now they're going to do it. Why
not do this sooner? So now we wait to see
whether or not thirty of thirty two are going to
get deals done before the year.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, so let's just call what it is. They have
not agreed upon terms. I always hate when people who
are smart and they know the difference, they don't actually
identify what it is. All right, they're not under contract,
they're not holding out, all right. They're not holding out
for a better contract or more money. They have not
agreed upon terms. The point being made though, about why
they ever started to go to stuff in the first
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place is well taken. I mean that was a personal
preference by them, maybe their agent and their team to
make that decision, and probably an act in good faith,
thinking that the team's going to sign them to this
deal and follow suit with the Browns and the other
teams escape me at the moment. But you know, it
hasn't happened. And here's the thing. I don't think we're
gonna see all thirty guys. We're all thirty two draft
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picks in the second round.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I'll put it that way.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Get guaranteed contracts. Someone will break the line if you
will and sign a deal that is not fully guaranteed,
and it's unfortunate because this is what owners always rely on.
And we're just going through a conversation earlier today about
collision between owners with guaranteed contracts and quarterbacks. You don't
think these owners aren't probably saying to each other like
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hold the line, like don't follow Jimmy Haslam here. That
was part of the reason for the initial issue when
he gave out that Deshaun Watson fully guaranteed contract.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
You know, j C.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Trader thought more players would follow a suit and he
was frustrated with Russell Wilson for not getting a fully
guaranteed deal. Where here we go again, we have a
couple of voters who's made that decision because they're probably
looking at saying we're not going to move on from
these guys, you know, after they're what four year deal,
so that we feel pretty confident in our evaluation and scouting.
But to your point, Jonnics, what makes it interesting now
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it's Quinnshine Junkins because he's put a position where, depending
on what happens off the field, it could actually you know,
impact one of the clauses where you know it's under
the player of conduct policy, and it can erase all
this guarantees.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I think the idea and maybe I'm I'm I'm wrong,
and having you here is it make a difference. I'm
feeling as though they're not asking for something different. It's
something that has happened since this new CBA deal has
been put in place, whatever that structure is, they weren't
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going for something new or something different. This is pretty
much you're slotted to get the contract you're gonna get
at the pick you're at. So it takes out the
guessing and the thinking and really you negotiate like other things,
other other lingo or whatever it may be, not the money.
That's what I thought this was all about. And so
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that to me now I'm all confused because I felt
as though all of these things that were done that
changed how the rules of engagement were for rookies getting drafted.
It led to their not being any type of as
you mentioned, guys that don't have a signed contract by
the time training camp comes, which you could people love
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to put out there that their holdouts. I mean, that's
how it's used, that's how it's discussed, that's that's how
it's framed. And now you have fans getting upset, like,
why isn't he in camp? He needs to be in camp.
This is that I was. I'm under the impression unless
you give me something different, Q that the idea of
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what these players and agents are holding out on is
that this is just what the contract is supposed to be.
The fact that you're trying to make it where we
can eliminate some of the language that would would guarantee
money is now something that's new and they don't feel
comfortable doing so.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
How I'd describe it as kind of going back to
our earlier conversations about this, the contracts used to only
be really negotiate the signing bonuses in time of when
you'd get those signing bonuses, and then the really win
the offset language would come into play, right if they
move on from a player who'd be on the hook
for that.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
So that was the two.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Things that were typically negotiated in what is now the
NFL's draft slot of draft spots. These second round picks,
even though percentage of their previous contracts and prior years
used to be a high amount guaranteed, they want fully guaranteed,
so they wont similar to the first round picks when
you make that draft selection. That contract is bullproof, fully guaranteed,
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obviously with the exception of player conduct policy and other things.
But you know those players are going to make the
value of that. So one of the reasons why I
don't think everyone will stand together on this is a
guy like Tyler Shuck, the quarterback who was drafted in
second round for the Saints. He's right there in the
mix to be the starting quarterback, and so he knows
how pivotal and how important it is to get into
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camp and get those reps because of their quarterback situation
where there's not really a clear cut guy at all
in any way, shape or form. But here's the problem.
He gets a four year deal. It's potentially gonna be
worth about ten point eight million dollars, potentially fully guaranteed.
I would imagine if you're his parents, if you're his agent,
if you're brothers, sister, or someone, you're probably saying, man,
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it'd be nice that that was fully guaranteed, as opposed
to how this season looks for the Saints, which their
overrunners probably said up what four wins? Jonas, is that
fatter to say or estimate? Efforting I would say, because
if they do play as poorly as Vegas thinks they're
going to play, he's most likely to be done. They're
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gonna draft someone else with the number one overall pick
or someone else with a really high first round pick,
and now he's trying to survive as a backup or
trying to find out, you know where else.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
He could potentially play.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Now, the side of that argument is going to be
Saints fans and a team saying, what, we're drafting in
the second round to be our guy, and we give
you a fully guaranteed deal and you don't play up
to it, you know, that's on you. Well, it's pretty
tough with where that roster's at and this situation right now,
with a new head coach in year one expecting Kellen
more than them just to you know, take off and
play great. It's going to take some time for them
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to get going. And they don't have the He doesn't
have the ability to sit and watch like Patrick Mahomes
did his rookie year or other you know, great quarterbacks,
Aaron Rodgers sat for three whoever you want to talk about.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
He doesn't have the luxury of that.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
So there's a lot of new wants as to this,
And I think that's the tough part is every one
of these other thirty players is in a different position,
and they're all competitive, and they all want to go
and compete and play. But this may be the only
contract they get, so they better maximize it and make
it the best they can, but most most likely won't.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Not only that, but if he plays well five and
a half Saints win total. If he plays well, then
people will be upset if he says he wants a
new contract because he's outplayed his contract, right, Like, if
he's making ten million, what would he be making by
year four of his contract? If he's making ten million, now,
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what would the fourth year is contract?
Speaker 1 (09:41):
He makes three point four million dollars three point on
this on this rookie contract.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
So, I mean, I just don't understand why would you
have a problem fully guaranteeing the guy's contract your I mean,
chances are if if he were to play well, you
got a value. If he doesn't play at all, it's
not enough money where you would sit there and be like, dang,
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like we guaranteed three million dollars. Like I just don't
I don't see that being in it.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
So here's this is the projection that I've been able
to research right now, about half his contract would be
guaranteed if you were to sign it based on how
contracts in the second round we signed in previous years.
So he'd have about four point five million guaranteed as
opposed to at least ten point eight.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I mean, why is that? I don't know. See, my
whole thing is again when we get into the language,
and you have to correct me on this if I'm
wrong fully guaranteed means if he doesn't if he makes
the roster, or is it if he doesn't make the
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roster at any point that what six to seven year?
Is it a seven year contract? No, it's four four
year okay, four year contract. If he were to get
cut in year two, he gets three and four. Yeah,
he gets the rest of the contract. Okay. Because the
way I see it is is if it is guarantees
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that and I know we've had this debate before conversation,
if it's based off of roster bonuses or workout bonuses,
stuff like that, it's it's like that's a guarantee or
a bonus, but you have to be on the roster
or you have to make the workouts in the off
season to get it, but that's still your money.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, I mean some of it's it's some of this
is a little bit different, right, It's if it's a
full guaranteed contract, it really doesn't matter what's stated in there.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
You get the monies.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Unless you know, for example, there's offset language where you're
not with the team and they cut you, you go somewhere else.
That team's gotta pay for it. But someone's got to
pay for it, like regardless injury everything. If it's full guaranteed,
it's full guaranteed. You know, a workout bonus has to
be earned, which that would be different though it would
be included.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
So these guys in this second round going for fully
guaranteed contracts, that is different. That isn't what was kind
of originally agreed upon in terms of the approach of
the slided contracts for the draft moving forward. This is different. Well,
the value of it is.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
So they're not changing like they're basically saying, hey, I'm
supposed to make about ten point eight million this year.
In the past, only about half of that was fully guaranteed.
Now I went the entirety of it, which it's interesting
that you know, they decided to stand together on this,
but then not mispractice time to force the issue more
with the teams. But also why this year just because
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picks thirty three and thirty four signed fully guaranteed deals.
You know, the first round picks have always been that
since the new CBA, So why is it just now
that the second round is They want to make this
push for those draft picks as well and then try
to you know, stand together or unified so that future
second round picks will also have fully guaranteed deals. But
in a small way, this wall. I'll just quickly say
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one more thing. This is how you get to fully
guaranteed deals in the NFL. You get more guys who
get drafted to that spot have a full guaranteed deal,
and then they come into league next their expectations. So
what do you think they won their next deal? They
like it being fully guaranteed. Sure, So if you want
to start that trend, you have to start it with
draft picks at least in my opinion, and them seeing
the value of having a fully guaranteed deal and then
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trying to push forward with veteran players as well.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
So and look, I'm not against them getting fully guaranteed contracts.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Good for them.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
You know, everybody should, the majority guys should probably have
fully guaranteed contracts. Why did the Texans give Jaden Higgins
a fully guaranteed contract in the second round because they
were the one that set the precedent and Nick Casario's
the guy who made the deal happen.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Why why did.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
I would imagine I would imagine that they, most like
them in Cleveland probably looked at it and said, if
we're drafting a guy in the second round, we're not
getting rid of them before the end of his rookie contract.
So we feel confident our observation and evaluation of who
is as a person, player, et cetera. Now, again, quick
Jung Jugkins makes it interesting, but you know there's carvouts
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or clauses in the contract that because of what he's
doing off the field, are going to avoid those guarantees,
so they don't have to worry about that. I mean,
in this case, again we're not talking huge dollars, but
you know every dollar really matters to some of these
billionaires who own NFL franchises, So you know they have
to put a certain percentage of the guaranteed money into escrow,
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which means they don't have it in their bank account,
that's in some non interest earning other account. And owners
don't like doing that, right, I mean put it this way.
You know, everyone at home could probably agree to this.
You know, if would you rather have your money earning
interest and making money for you while you're not using it,
or would you rather have to like set it aside
somewhere else where. It's like losing money on inflation. And
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that's a little bit of the issue too with some
of the owners is when you sign these big guarantees,
they've got to stock away or stack away some of
those those that guaranteed money into an escrow account, and
they don't want to do that, especially as those dollar
amounts keep going up and up and up.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
It's just nice.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
It's nice to see the Texans and Browns, Deshaun's former
team and current team are the ones handing out these guarantee.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
It's still scarred, you know, you guys should be.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
They've been a long history of things though, like you know,
that was kind of precedent setting the five year full
guaranteed deal. People tend to forget the Brock Oswaller trade.
That was an interest one that came up. Remember the
Texans paid them, things didn't work out, and then the
Browns essentially bought a second round pick when they traded
for Like it's not very often you see a team
trade for a guy that they don't feel like has
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that value, but then they get a second round pick
as well. I mean they took on that because they
had the cap space.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
If you're a call, I mean, you guys ought to
be a little bit nicer to DeShawn now that I
think about it, Like the way you guys treat him
and talking about the game. Yeah, guys really looking out
for players, looking out for the betterment of players. And
now guaranteed contracts. Anybody in the vicinity of Deshaun Watson's
getting a guaranteed contract franchise.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Wise of that man. So just how you do it
it is, that'll be those are back, those finds you're
back now, that'll be ten. Yeah, they're back. Lee got
fine earlier today, boy, Yeah, Ellie hey, Lee f b. Yeah,
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what do you got to say. I'll put it aside.
I'll put it in the in the account.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
It is, by the way, Lee, on real quick, we
need to have a camera on Lee to the entire show.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Mm hmmm, I don't know. There's a lot of cameras
going on. I don't know if we want that. I'm
just saying, Lee, you can try to make that happen.
Open another account. We can do this. Oh gosh, I'll
do it. I'll join on a effort.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
It is today, by the way sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Sorry, I know you want to get the break. Looks
like Chewbacca. He just poked his head on camera when
point I was like, godly like, what do you do
with your hair today?
Speaker 2 (17:02):
It's the bead? How you know he comes in like
this every morning? What do you mean quick? I was
just asking that shooter bang LEAs weren't a button up
though he did. Uh you were in that last night?
Speaker 6 (17:22):
No, No, it was I was flip flops in short yesterday. No,
that's right, yeah, no dress up nice for Brady's return.
Come on, okay, oh god, all right, he's.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Still wearing the same thing you're you were wearing at
the start of the show. Brady. I haven't seen you
in a minute. Oh god, yes, yes I am. That's
because you're not on camera.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Lee.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
See that was like a real f B approach, consion
conversation that that is f B playing out in real time.
There you go. Do you have Almo the same thing
you were wearing earlier? Brad, No, I'm gonna change, Mitch,
Mitch Show.
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we are going to have another edition of Lee's Leftovers
here on FSR. Should be interesting because something seems off
with Lee. Oh no, but he keeps denying it, and
I don't know why I didn't drink yesterday. Really, yeah,
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that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I don't believe. I don't congratulations. I don't. By the way, Lee,
so you had one or two drinks you wanted to
means that means I had one red wine. That's what
I add. When whenever it seems like it could actually
be truth from Lee, don't go for it. They're all lies.
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Where was I where?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
I was driving by a big billboard and it was
a beat box and it was shack. I thought it
was in Boston and Shaq was holding a beat box.
I was like, oh, that's what does look like. Yeah,
I could see why Lee would drink that.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Yeah, blue lemonade beat box. But exactly that's what it was.
That was that flavor. You knew the flavor, Yeah, shacks flavor.
The interesting thing about it is it's b statement right there.
It's packaged though like a protein shake.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
It's literally packaged as like any other protein healthy drink
you have. If you happen to grab the wrong one,
you might be thinking, oh, a beat box this is
probably good for me, and I'm getting like a bunch
of beats of my.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
System like a muscle milk.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah, it looks it's just like the same packaging as
a muscle milk. Just it says beatbox and looks different.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Although Lee did put me up on game to uh
buzz balls, I.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Had never knew what it was. And I heard him
and Laura.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
Talking about it, and I walked by in the grocery
store and I see. I was like, Oh, that's what
he's talking about. And it's literally like a Christmas ornament alcohol.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
No, oh, come on, Jonas, get the big one all
to yourself.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
I'm good.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
They make coozies for him, now, cozy cozies. Yeah, like
a beer cozy or a beer coozy.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
That's important. Yeah, we needed that. I'm sorry. Is there
a demonstrated cozy and a cozy I call it kozie,
but she said cozy. I don't know what is it?
Is it coozy or isn't it that's like cozy? Oh
I've been saying that wrong. You've been Oh wow, kind
of like f boy cozy. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
No, that's coozy. Okay, Hey, alright, thank you.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
I can understand a whole lot of support going on
between the two of them in that room. Bro, I
don't that there.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
Le rain is a real thing today. They've got each
other's backs big time.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
They do.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
That's right. Google's Google saying it goes both ways too,
it does? All right?
Speaker 5 (22:05):
All right, I don't get it. This is the season,
all right. So the All Star Game is coming up tomorrow.
We've got the Home Run Derby coming up later on tonight.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Who doesn't like the home Run Derby? All right?
Speaker 5 (22:18):
We can debate Wimbledon, you can debate the dunk contest,
the home Run Derby where you get these guys out
there just hitting bombs.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Is that the most American contest of anything we have
in sport?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
No, Like of all the All Star Games, everything we
do that like this sort of pageantry.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I think this is the most American guy with a
wooden batting they can.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah, Hey, let's just do this deal where we throw
a bunch of pitches at these guys with a.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Wooden bat and just watch them go yard. No, I
don't even think the dunk contest. There's something else. I
just don't know. The hotel hitting contest.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
No, that's not because then you'd have to put Joey
chess on up there my acclaim, right. No, what about
a World's Strongest Man, even though we don't really have guys.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
That's the first thing that kind of came from Denmark,
though it's something like it's not really American. Who's the
dude from Poland to Wanter Forever? Magnus? What was his name?
Was he from there? Magnus and II? And then the
lady that does the CrossFit what's her name Thor's daughter
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or something like that, like, yeah, that's her name.
Speaker 5 (23:30):
The guy who won Strongest Man or reallyst he was
the strongest Man contestant was the guy who was on Yeah,
but if you think about it, it's basically like if
you were just describe what is the home run derby?
A guy stands up there with a bat, he gets
slow pitched and tries to hit a ball as far
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as he possibly can, over and over and over and over.
It seems like the most boring thing in the world,
and it's awesome. It's awesome every year and you could listen.
You can make some stars out of it. But like
the Dunk Contest, it feels like it's kind of run
its course. The home run Derby, please don't ever go away.
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I think it's phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And they've got some changes in gimmicks to it, like
the clock and the different colored ball and all that.
I mean, they tried to spice it up a bit.
I just I think what they need to do is
let the guys go on to cycle steroids, Like six
weeks before this we're participating. There was never a more
fun home run Derby than the Morguire Sosa era. Like
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those guys holding toothpicks their forearms. They're so jacked and
every ball they touched, You're like, that could go out,
that could go Everything they touched. They're so juiced up.
It was awesome.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
I showed my son Sammy Sosa's two thousand and two
home run derby in Milwaukee.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Was he confused when he saw today Sammy Sosa compared
to that one.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
Yeah, he's he's like, he's like, daddy, what happen?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
What was your answer? He's like, Papa, what was your response? Papa?
Papa Blanco's bloco. He's like, Papa, you now.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
So.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
But I was showing him a Soss home run derby
from two thousand and two. You think today he's gould
hit that many when he's got when he was, yeah,
I got that.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
He was hit. It was in Milwaukee.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
He was hitting balls to the slide for like five
hundred and twenty feet away. Nobody's doing that later tonight,
it's not happening. But back then, when guys, what was
it called?
Speaker 2 (25:37):
And is that what it was called? Yeah, I mean
that was one of the things that that was McGuire's. Yeah.
I think that was technically like legal though back then
it was. Yeah. Then that was that was like the
least of MB's concerns. He looked really really like like pause,
like no, like all men, why But he looked really
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good as a player back then, like in the uniform,
Like that's that's how you are supposed to look if
you're in your uniform.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Dude, him jogging around the bases, then dumb truck, dumb
truck driving around.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
He was also broomn cale. He was wearing the hell
out of his unifour. Yes, well, when I'm sixty, I
don't take so much of a look like Mark McGuire.
I really do.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
I really do. Wish people were more forgiving about steroids
in baseball like they are with the NFL. Because in
the NFF, the in the NFL, somebody pisses hots, I
got four game suspension, big deal, like whatever, and he's
trying to come back from an injury. You do it
in baseball and you are crucified for the rest of
your career like they will. They will not let you
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hear the end of it. You were vilified.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Ford say, he's never seen a steroid hit a ball before.
Welln't that right? Yeah, I agree with it.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Football, so it benefits you way more sure because you're
immediately impacted with the ability to be bigger, faster, stronger
at the.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Point of attack, right, and you know you're not I'm
not going to miss an offensive lineman or an offensive
lineman isn't going to miss a defensive lineman or a
linebacker like you're going to get them, So I could
see that, but I mean hitting a ball, you still
got to be able to swing the bat.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
Also, do you know how many players took steroids that
probably never even made the majors, tried and maybe got
from you know single.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
I'm curious how many football players have used steroids and
didn't get caught, because I think there's a lot of
them out there. I'm telling you, I think there's a
lot of them out there. They were cheating. Hey, all's forgiven. Well,
they never got caught whatever, they never got caught, so
they don't have to be forgiven.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
But I bet you'd be some names. You'd be like, no, really,
I have an idea. Let's get Lee on steroids. Let's
get Lee juice to the gills. Oh yeah, and then
can't imagine.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I don't think his kidney kidneys, I don't know liver
has more than one, or his liver could handle it.
I just don't know. I think that would. What are
your thoughts on this? I think I'm built for it, baby,
Come on, okay. Liver strong com takes it in a
shot glass every morning. He said, if my liver is wrong, Lee,
(28:24):
you would have to go work out every day instead
of drinking though I could do both. Did you guys
notice how quickly that phase of his life came and
went by the way? Oh, is he not working out anymore?
I still go to the gym. I haven't heard him
going to the gym and forever it's been forever.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
I didn't go for a while after the fallen in
New Orleans because I couldn't do much with my arm,
so I was just doing a lot of walking. But
I've got back to the gym about a month or
so ago. But you know who did stop going?
Speaker 2 (28:53):
You all the ways stopped going?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
We go?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Well, I tore my abdominal wall, So I did stop going.
How did you do that?
Speaker 4 (29:00):
I have an umbilical hernia and it tore through my
abdominal wall.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Was that direct direct or terminal? I've done a lot
of sit ups. I've never heard this before, you know,
like terminal, you had it there all along and it started.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Okay, Now, I got my umbilical hernia during my surrogacy.
There you go, okay, So then yeah, but I've had
that for a few years now, and I apparently.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, okay, interesting, doesn't sound fun. I'll tell you that.
I mean, if you're looking for reasons not to do
sit ups. That would be one that helps never doing
them again. There you go, Maan, it is a meathead Monday, right?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Oh it is? Which my bone to pick for meathead
Monday would be this? Do you guys know how much
protein you're supposed to be taking if you would want
to put on muscle? Have you seen this before?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
It's a ton? Isn't it a gram per pound?
Speaker 1 (29:46):
You wre grams ten grams per kilogram? So like I
shouldn't be taking a pound, right, I should be taking
like two hundred grams of protein a day. Which here's
the catch. So you're telling me you want me to
like eat more protein to put on muscle bass, But
yet now I've got to intermittent fast or I've got
like a small window to do it in. How the
(30:08):
hell are you eating two inner grams of protein and
like a six hour window? Bro Jonas, I know you're
into this, so you you explained that to me.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I was just with my son. Let me let me
tell you something. I was just with my son. And
he's he's doing that whole he's preparing for for shows,
and it is wowd watching him eat. Is he eating
intermittent fasted windows like and he sticks to the eating
(30:36):
schedule and playing and it is wowed watching how much
he has to try to get down. Like he ordered
like three plates like we were we were at in
State College because he's in Pennsylvania, so we were there
filming and he was he was there and Bro his mill.
Every single meal he had it was like three of
(30:57):
everything three three two three deals of oatmeal like steel
cut oats and all that stuff and all. It's like
it's a lot of food he was eating. Bro.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
All right, how many eggs do you think you guys
could eat just in one sitting, like scrambled, like just
like a plate of eggs, just straight eggsat a lot
of eggs like ten.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Yeah, I'd be really full and comfortable. I could eat ten.
That's sixty grams of protein right there. Yeah, but then
I wouldn't eat for like the rest of the day.
I'm just saying that's a good start, though, you know,
I'm one hundred and forty short. It were like a
fourth of the way there, so I can't eat that much.
Man doesn't work. Doesn't work. When we order steaks these days,
(31:42):
like I order a tomahawk. We share it at the
table and take leftover zone.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
I don't know how bodybuilders, if this is how they
do it, I don't know how it's physically possible to
eat that much in that small amount of It's unbelievable
because then what he's got to eat every two hours? Bro,
he looks like a house. It's like every two hours.
It's every two hours, and he's like has to stuff
(32:09):
his face. He's like a house, like literally big as hell,
and you've got to drink a ton of water. Yes,
it's it's uncomfortable, he says, it's very uncomfortable. It's an
uncomfortable thing. But he is, Oh, he's he's he's the
same size as me. He's two fifty. When he started this,
he was like two nineteen. What did he wait when
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he was playing at Delaware like to twenty, he's like
to twenty. So most people slim down after they stopped playing.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
He yeah, thirty pounds a muscle. He looks like Mark McGuire.
That what we're saying. He got jacked up like Mark McGuire.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
He looks better with it. He just looks big with it.
Like he now wears like big body builder clothes, you know,
what I mean, like because his legs are getting so big,
and like he's getting big, so it's like uncomfortable for
to wear certain clothes. So he's wearing like those loose
fitting clothes. Zupus, bro. I'm like, dude, you are too
(33:08):
young to be looking like that. Man, but I go
a lot to you, like he yoked up, though I
wish I see there. I was like, dang, I wish
I could look like that. I won't. I won't ever
look like that. And I saw the way he was eating.
Ain't no way, ain't no way. Yeah, you can't put
in that. I can't get that many calories in. It's
(33:29):
no way. I'll throw up. I'll throw my stomach, it'll explode. Yeah,
no way, you get that done. Too much, too much.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
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Speaker 3 (33:50):
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Speaker 2 (34:24):
What do you looking at? So?
Speaker 5 (34:31):
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missed anything from today's show, and it's been a wild one,
we got to a very hotly contested debate while everybody
else is talking Jordan versus Lebron or all these other
mumbo jumbo sports talks conversation, we were trying to break
down what the meaning of f Boy was. So if
you'd like to find out how that went. It was
(34:52):
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Speaker 3 (35:11):
These might smell a little funk, sounds incredible, but they're
still good.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Time to find out what's left.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
It's Lee's lap, all.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Right, da lap? What do we got? Guys? We were
talking about the world's strongest man.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
I think we were trying to look for Marius Pudsniawski,
also known as the Pudsian or the Dominator, five time
world champion from Poland.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Just I don't know. The Dominator was that the game?
It was awesome back in the day, he was he
was legit. When that name of the guy in the
Diddy Trial, who was that guy? The Punisher? The Punisher.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Rats That was.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Close from the Dominator to the Punisher to the Superman.
Superman third best opening of the open weekend of the
year so far. One hundred and twenty two million domessic
another ninety five million globally bring it to two seventeen
costs to twenty five to produce.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Uh so, yeah, great weekend there for Superman. Good Have
you seen it?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Lee?
Speaker 2 (36:12):
I have seen it. I'll see it again.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
It's it was that good. I thought it was excellent.
I think the the the new Superman. David corn Sweat
I think he was really good the whole cast.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Worn sweat, horn sweat. That's growth.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Now, Lee, would he use F boy the way LeVar
Jonason I use it? Or the way you and the
Prana and pre use it?
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Uh, he would probably use it the way I would
use it. Why is that? Because it is the proper
way to use it. And I'll never go see that.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
I'll never go see that movie because he's because he's
generally and he would look at F boys as they are.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
And by the way, we have enough tape boy Superman. Yeah,
he's got that Superman. What go ahead? Sounds like he's yeah,
don't you get don't you Yeah?
Speaker 6 (36:54):
And you've heard the term F boy problems. You wouldn't
say that for your definition, you'd say it for our definition.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
F boy prop Yeah. It's like a thing that goes around.
It's like in yeah, boy, you got problems. That's the point.
Your daughter agrees, right. My daughter said there's two definitions.
She did and she said that both definitions that we
spoke of were correct. I want to clarify my stance
(37:20):
on this.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
I think our definition is the way we use it,
and Jonas LaVar and I and then there's the way
women use it, which is different. Now, the interesting thing
about this whole conversation is Lee, you use it the
way women use it at which makes you a real
f b of what FB is.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
I agree.
Speaker 6 (37:39):
I agree that I told you that you're the way
you guys use it was the way it originated, and
now it's evaulved into how women have taken it over into.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
This new slave anyway. I mean, there have been words
that we use that we had meanings for that have
been taken over now that we can't use. So, I mean,
it wouldn't be the first thing there. You wouldn't be
the first time somebody redefined something that we meant. I mean,
we can't even play the football game in the front
of the yard anymore because you'd get in trouble if
(38:10):
you said, let's go outside and play it here. You know,
I'm just saying, yeah, it's all good anyway.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
Hey, Loreena's been reading this new book called Why We
Love Football History in one hundred Moments by.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Joe trying to up my sports knowledge game.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
And of course we got Brady in the intro. That's
pretty dope. Yeah, it's pretty cool. She's uh, Larada's putting
in the work. She's you're learning the book too, did
you know, Brady? No, yeah, you're in Why We Love Football.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Apparently he was a big Browns fan, so he listed
off all the Browns quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
There's a lot of them, yes, And that's what he
said too. He was like, oh, that was a mouthful.
They got to figure it out though. WHOA, I don't know.
We'll see what I was this year. WHOA? Why would
you read that book if you want to learn about
fo fall you work on the show.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Well, it's a good way to go back in history
and find all the greatest moments like that, playoffs, like
playoffs like that's one of the things in there. So
I get to learn the history in the background, yes see,
and like big plays and stuff. I can't I can't
wait till le Bar pops up in the book.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Are you gonna I'm not significant?
Speaker 4 (39:21):
When you do, I'm gonna highlight it.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
I'm not significant. Will you sign my book? Sure? I'm
sure you have more important people that could sign your book.
So you're important? Well, thank you? All right, carry on, everybody, Lee,
what else we got?
Speaker 6 (39:39):
I start a week of dog sitting this week, so
I'll give you updates as we go along.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
It's the one that needs a diaper, so all right,
but that dog dies.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Gets lost easy money, Yeah, gets lost before it dies,
even that drug.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Addict dog or a bad match a
Speaker 1 (39:58):
F B