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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
Give this punies you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
I turned around, I say, let my seat be free.
Can you stop kicking me?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
His?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I am in my c Two Pros and a Cup
of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Lady Quinn, Jonas
Knox with your hair, happy to have sticks back. You
were giving more information on the little girl. Yes, not
little girl.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I mean she was a bigger, big little girl like
she had to have been so.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
So you even pushed your seat back and she was
still firing off.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I mean I even turned around before I knew it
was a little girl, like I turned around to see
who was abusing my seat the way that they were.
For the entire first hour and a half of the flight.
I turned around and I looked because it was finally
to my wits end one hour and a half into
a five hour flight. So alert stops. So that's how
(01:43):
I know, all right, she gets what she's doing. Then
I turned and I look at the dad after she
started doing it, like two minutes after I turned around,
right the dad. I put my hands up to the dad, like,
are you going to tell your kid to stop kicking
my seat? Like you do know that there's a person
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on the other side of this seat and it's first
class seating, so.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
You got space. It's not like you cramped in there.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Looked at the dad. The dad looks at the kid,
tells the kid stop. The kid stops for like five minutes,
like may three minutes longer. Next thing, you know, kids
dealing on the back seat of my seat again. So
it is what it is, man. I mean, I was
two seconds away from turning around and say I can't
do nothing to her, but I will whoop your ass.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
I was close. I was close. It was close. It
was close hostile.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I gotta admit I almost hit the hostile black man button,
like it's there. I had the hostile black man buttons.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
So maybe maybe the Delta agent wasn't wrong on the phone.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I hadn't hit the button on that though I was.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I was actually being a customer, just in need of
some customer service.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
I was not.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I was upset, but I had not went past the
point of being so irate that I pulled the ripcord.
I hit the emergency be an irate, hostile black man.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
I did not do that.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
I'd say, what would be the one example of that
hitting the button?
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Would it be that that's seven on seven fight with
the guy with the.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Oh, yeah, I'll get When I was in high school,
I was playing basketball and we were in a tournament
and we were winning the tournament.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
We were in the championship game.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
We're playing against the school Ducaine, and we were winning.
And Ducaine is an inner city school outside of Pittsburgh,
predominantly black school. But they had a few like its reversed, like,
they had a few white kids on their team. And
the one white kid on the team was like throwing
some nice little slurs at me. Right, So I'm like
(04:01):
laughing at him like ha ha whatever, Like you're just trying,
Like I get it.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
It's mental game. Yeah, it was it was.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
It was. It was decent. But was he like a
Jason Williams type guy or like how we.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, I don't yeah, no, yeah maybe.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
I didn't put that. I didn't invest that much into him.
But I just I just know, like he was there
saying what he was saying. It was like whatever, man like,
not like I've dealt with that. It's not a big
deal to me. But the game was over and we
were walking, everybody shaking hands, dapping each other.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
I knew a couple of dudes on the team that
was so and so forth.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
And he looks at me, and I look at him,
and I'm like, on some like cool stuff, like I'm
about to like dap him up and like say, you know,
good game. You know whatever. He goes, remember what I said,
and I and I hit I hit the hostile black
man button.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
I hit it.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Don't make me angry.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I hit it. How often can you?
Speaker 5 (05:05):
And then I hit him?
Speaker 4 (05:07):
How often can you hit that button? Though?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Oh no, man, you got you gotta know your you
got to know your limitations, man, Like, there's certain things
you just it's hard to come back from.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Yeah, it would it be hard to come back from
a team that you feel like you've performed above and
beyond and you're not getting paid the way you want.
Do you think that would be hard to come back from.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Oh man, it's not once you get the deal done.
And I would say I would say based off of
what you're alluding to, he certainly has proven that he
should be paid. Uh, they should. They will end up
paying him. This will get done and then I think
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all will be it's just moving forward. He's there, you know,
he's there. He seems to be in good spirits. It's
just I think that whatever it is, the process that
these guys take with Dallas, it is what it is,
and you just got to be willing to just go
through the process of it and until it gets done.
(06:16):
But I do believe it'll get done. I don't believe
just because this has happened before. I do not believe
Micah is looking at this as they don't want them,
or you know, he's going to have hard feelings towards it.
I mean, he might be a little bit uncomfortable with
it right now, possibly maybe, I mean, it would be
natural for him to have feelings towards it, But I
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do believe he in his heart of hearts, he does
know he's going to get a contract. It's just a
matter of how big that contract is. Is it the
biggest non quarterback contract or is there going to be
a problem because he came in lower than say TJ.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Watt.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Well, the good news is Jerry Jones did talk further
about the new negotiations and actually did pay your guy.
Uh Micah Parsons a compliment of all.
Speaker 7 (07:06):
The players that I've ever negotiated with, Michael Parson is
as savvy and knowledgeable and understanding of his financial business
relative to football as any player I've been around.
Speaker 5 (07:20):
He called Michael.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I mean, when you're that savvy and you're that that
into what it is, you got called Michael.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Yes, Yes he.
Speaker 7 (07:28):
Did, Michael Parson.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Is that like a Texas draw Lord, give you a chance?
Give you a chance? No, maca.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
Maca Michael Parson.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I just think that him feeling as though, like I
don't dang. I know there are people be bit like
LaVar makes things racist on this show, Like i'ma I'm
gonna go there. I'm gonna go there because already I
already hit black hostyle button. Anyway, I'm gonna go right,
how many white dudes do you know named Micah?
Speaker 5 (08:12):
I actually feel like I have met a white mic.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
I've never met a white man I know one.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Yeah, where's he from? It's a biblical name, isn't it?
Is it? I don't I thought it was.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
It's I mean, to Jerry Jones's defense.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
How many of you know you said you know something?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I went to school with a kid named Micah? Really yeah,
I've never known one. It's like a lazy Michael. It's
like the parents you know, didn't fill out the rest
of them.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Okay, Well that kind of plays into the narrative.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I'm just saying he talked about how savvy he was,
the most savvy ever. That does include every racial group
that he's dealt with, Right, So if you're looking at
it from the perspective of how savvy and how smart
he is, I think he was given Micah buck compliment.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Hey, Coop, can we run with that on just point?
Make that the headline. LeVar Arrington says black players negotiate
better than whites.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
No, I didn't say that, I said I said that.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Jerry Jones clearly felt like, how well he's negotiating.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
He's not Micah, he's Michael.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
Do we have the sound on him talking about the
comparison between Michael and Ceedee Lamb.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Do we have that sound?
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Was it the one from last week where he was
he was basically talking about all the things that go wrong.
There's no way.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
There, There's there's some interesting quotes. So if you don't
have the sound, I'll read you the quote.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
But I just I don't know.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Why he does this, you know, he he seems to
he seems to like bury himself in these different holes
where he says things that have to take off the players.
I mean, one of the biggest stargust contrasts between the
negotiations with Michael Parsons, and I just thought, we have
(10:12):
to keep calling Michael Parsons for the rest of.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
This this UH segment segment.
Speaker 6 (10:16):
But I mean, Mike is there, CD held out like
he legitimately held out. So when I look at this,
I say, Okay, would this deal have been done had
Mike had not been there, had he not been present
and training camp? Even though he's trying to do the
right thing, he's trying to avoid fines, he's trying to
avoid that whole mess that comes along with it. So
(10:40):
that's you know, that's not the direction he's gone. Will
it ultimately warn him a contract?
Speaker 5 (10:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
Like when people get upset with players for holding out,
here's a prime example of a dude who's done every
single thing you could ask him to do, and even
in a moment when he's you know, he he could
be holding out, he could, he's not, and yet he
it's not netting him the result of what he should
be compensated and paid. So I know it stinks for
fans to not, you know, see their favorite player sometimes
(11:07):
in training camp. It's the only leverage you have as
a player. You have to show them what life is
like when you are not there, and that's the greatest
thing you can do to kind of put more pressure
on the ownership to get the contract done. And I
just I feel like when you show up, you're playing
with you're playing with them, and it just ends up
dragging out.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Do we have the sound? I don't believe. So, Okay,
So here's the quote. Here's the quote.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
This is This is in regards to Jerry Jones downplaying
the pay Mica chance that emerged at training camp. I
heard it a lot, but not compared to how I
heard it. How I heard them say pay C D.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Lamb.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
That was a faint little sound compared to the way
they were hollering last year, paid Lamb. Whoever's not in
you can count on a few hollering that. But it
was a big loud chant last year on Lamb. Like
basically like I don't I don't know why you have.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
To even compare the two, Like, what's the point?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
That was a great, great quote terrible.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I mean, the voice was funny as Michael Michael was.
Michael got a faint one compared to C. D.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Lamb. All I'll say is And.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
By the way, can I just mention this One of
the more famous examples of somebody holding out and using
their leverage was EMMITTT. Smith because he held out and
missed two games of the regular season and they ended
up paying him. And so Jerry's been through that and
apparently just hasn't learned this lesson. I don't think it's
a lesson to be I think he he did. He
(12:40):
deals the way he deals, and if it means going
two games into the season with one of your best
players not playing because they don't have a new contract,
then that's what he's willing to do.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Try to hear my strategy on this what I think
it is.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
I think it's the fact that we don't want to
talk about the football that's actually been played out there.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Maybe we just want to focus on everything else outside
of it exact.
Speaker 6 (13:05):
I mean, imagine if we just walked in as the
Dallas Cowboys, Imagine we just walked into camp, no issue
off the field at all, Like, no issue, we just squarely.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Focused on the football.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
You'd say, well, it's been over thirty some years since
they won a Super Bowl. That's our expectation every year.
Like wait, this kind of stinks to be a Dallas
Cowboys fan. So maybe he's like, hey, guys, we got him,
we got them, we got him, all right, I need
me some glory.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Hole.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
It's like next next thing, you know, people are like,
what do you say, I want some glory?
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Yeah, Like, let's not pay attention to the actual football,
the fact we haven't won a Super Bowl over thirty
some years. Let's just go ahead and have these contract
issues by the time we get to the seas we
start playing games.
Speaker 8 (13:47):
Jr.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
It's like few I don't have to worry about that anymore.
Now to playing football games.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Let's by the way, have we got an update on
on uh, the receiver's health that went down?
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Pick pickings?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Have we gotten Has there been an update on he
went down on the sideline during practice? Y'all didn't see that.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
I haven't heard anything.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
Yeah, I wonder, what the hell there's another player I
thought you were talking about who went down?
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Your sales pretty serious? Yeah, you're talking about Sharon Jackson.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's but there was the idea of
I don't know what the update of it is, but
I mean, you're talking about a team that desperately needs
to do better than what they have done, and they
have been riddled with injuries and that has has really
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it has really not done any good. Like they've not
been able to overcome the injury bugs that they've had
with their players in the last few years. I was
just curious, like you, you got Micah there, but Mike
isn't participating. And while I agree like Micah, yeah, while
(15:04):
I agree that you know, when a guy isn't there,
it is like figure out what life is like without him,
But I ultimately feel like with a guy like Micah,
you don't have to He doesn't have to do anything
but be Micah Parsons at this point in time, because
the idea of not paying Micah Parsons, even the idea
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of making it about well, they didn't do it as
loud for him as they did for Ceedee Lamb. I mean,
it's that's all trivial. He's going to get paid, and
the idea is how much and when and as long
as you.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Know that, you do what you need to do.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
But it does still ultimately come back to the conversation
point of what you guys are discussing, like, this team
has not had the greatest of success for a really
really long time, and so when you're paying players, I mean,
what is the thought process when you're paying players on
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a team that's underperforming. I mean, I know you got
to keep up with market value, but still I'm on,
if I'm Jerry Jones, I'm on some wait and see
type stuff like I want to pay you really not really,
but yes, like if for as long, for as long
as as he's been losing and trying to win, and
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he had a he had an offensive line that had
multiple potential Hall of Famers one for sure Hall of famer.
You had one of the best offensive lineman offensive lines
you could have constructed. You had a quarterback emerge as
a good quarterback. You had a solid backfield, like two backs.
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You had what two receivers and one one utility. You
had a full roster. Your defense was the same. You
could say the same about the defense is that you
had the personnel to be able to make a run
for it multiple times, at least several times, at least
several seasons.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
And that's why that that playoff lost to the Packers
loomed so large because you can't explain that one that
was Dan Quinn still as a defensive coordinator. They're at
home like you can't explain that. And Jerry Jones just
hasn't like they haven't recovered from it.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
They find ways of just having the most crazy endings.
I mean, I still go back to San Francisco that
that last play or zik got blown up. You know,
you can go through the years. It's it's crazy. But
the truth is to your point, LeVar, this deal will
get done. It's just a matter of when, not if.
(17:52):
And but I do wonder if Micah didn't or Michael
didn't show up, which ever want to call him? Would
it put more pressure on him? Yeah, if they would
have gotten this done by now, you know, if they
would have said, hey, all right, let's let's get this
thing done.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Maybe maybe not.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Maybe it worked for Seke, work for Emmitt, it worked
for you know, there's other players it's worked for, work
for CD. So that's the one thing I think that's
interesting about it.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
And that might be why he's given him the compliments.
He's so complimentary of him, is because he's there.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
I mean, the wrong name, isn't that void the compliment?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
I just feel like that's an added compliment, Like he
called him Michael.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
That that Jared Knox. He's one hell of a radio house.
That Jerry.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
They're like, well, that's that's not my name, but it
does kind of stinging bites.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Was there any follow up?
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Was there any follow up to him calling him Michael?
And has he called him Michael since?
Speaker 5 (18:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
I'm certain somebody had that brought it to us. If
you are like Dad, you do know you called him
Michael today?
Speaker 6 (18:56):
I was gonna say, if you're the actual person asking
the question, like, let's say one of one of US three.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
I was interviewing Jerry Jones. Would you correct him?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I would I would have, would you just because of
my personal tie to him. Though, if he was like
a regular dude, like just somebody I didn't know, I
just let him go.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
I would have been like Michael Parson, it's a slip.
He's an older he's an old man. You know, it's
a slip.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
He missed both of them. He didn't get the last name, right,
what's the last name?
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Let's hear.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
Negotiated with Michael Parson is.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Yes, yeah, yeah, maybe maybe hold on, hold on now.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Maybe he's talking about someone else, entirely different person. Maybe
it's a different Maybe it's a different person.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
Maybe like Michael Parson is in the front office somewhere,
you know, maybe they just hired him and brought him on.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Or maybe he's an agent, oh yeah, or an agent.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
Maybe I was thinking, like maybe he's like the guy
getting coffee and you know, running the copy here and
picking some stuff up here and there, one.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Of those Yes, yeah, it's a slip. I mean, I
don't think it's a big deal. But at the end
of the day, Micah will get paid. It's a matter
of how much will he get paid? That's the bottom line.
And Hendrickson and my guy out in Detroit, Why am
(20:18):
I blanking on his name, Aiden hutch Hudson. I think
whatever it is from there, I think those are the
guys that they don't they don't get. I don't know
that Aiden gets more than anybody of the three between Miles,
TJ and Mike.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
What Micah is going to get.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I don't think Hendrickson is going to get what it
is that he's looking for.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
I think Micah is the last one.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
That was another thing that we talked about last week
that you missed out on. We found out that Bengals
fans are really sensitive if you if you question or
criticize their organization being cheap. They're not happy about it.
Even though they got this Shamar Stewart deal done. So
he's there, but Trey Hendrickson is still nowhere to be
found Cincinnati. So a lot going on with training camp
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With you here. How corny is this beat? Pretty bad?
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Coming up? A little over fifteen minutes from now, we
are going to close up shop with what we're calling
coops leftovers since Lee the lap is not here, which,
by the way, Lee's just been out for ages, but.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Maybe he's getting I would love for that to be
wily as an inn.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Oh you think went to rehab for six days?
Speaker 6 (23:11):
And by the way, can people stop asking like, hey,
does he drink as much as you guys make about yes,
more more? Stop asking the question that's too much. Dang well,
we're trying to help him, all right. Stop being mad
at us trying to help him, all right, Am I wrong?
Speaker 5 (23:32):
Saying that?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
It's that none of the stories that we've told are embellished,
none of them are made up. He really was drinking
hurricanes at eight in the morning with Beignet's.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
I mean I was drinking them with them though.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Yeah, but you didn't blow chunks at eleven am and
then go out afterwards.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
Well that is, and then face plant and spike your
face off the Bourbon street there of that is true.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
So Lee will be back tomorrow. We're assuming we'll see
what happens. But there is somebody and this could you know,
who knows how this is going to turn out. But
there was a report that came out. Chance Martin of
Foxnews dot Com says that Colorado head coach Dion Sanders
(24:22):
and his medical team will hold a press conference later
today to provide general health and team updates. This is
supposed to happen. I'm seeing it about one Eastern time.
They're going to have this press conference. There's been some speculation.
Obviously he's got health issues that he's been going through.
(24:42):
There was a video that came out a little while
back courtesy of his son's YouTube channel, where Dion Sanders
here was talking about having to make a will and
just how difficult that was for him.
Speaker 8 (24:58):
I'll love if I'm ready today emotionally last night was till. Yes,
it was tough because to.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
Make a wheel.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
Listen, it's not easy, you know, to think that you
might not bear. How do you want to make to
hear by stream?
Speaker 4 (25:41):
So that was Dion Sanders's serious.
Speaker 6 (25:45):
Yeah, I would say this though, like he's made a
lot of money. I mean, I assume that he's got
a state planning, which would mean he already has a will.
So people, people should I mean, just some quick advice.
You can have a living will, which is obviously a
smart thing to do once you turn the age of eighteen.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
But then obviously as you.
Speaker 6 (26:08):
Get older, you have especially once you have kids, you
definitely should have you know, some estate planning done. If
you have things to pass down to them, you should
get that done asap. You know, you don't want anything
to happen after you're here, and it not be very specific.
Where money, where a home, where cars whatever are going
to the people you want them to go to.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
So call that a PSA if you will.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
But it sounds odd that he would be at this
point stage in his life, given how much money he's made,
that he wouldn't already have all that stuff done.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
But thoughts and prayers. Man, I hope whatever is going
on is you know, he's gonna be all right.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
No, there's been a lot of speculation when it came out,
you know, people saying that he's faking it so that
he cannot coach, get out of coaching because his kids,
you know, he wants to coach his sons or whatever.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
I've seen he's stunk, right, Like I've seen that, like
he's concerned about how bad they'll be now that the
door is not there.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
I just I think it's such it has such a
serious tone to it when when you hear him that
I would have to say it it would be irresponsib
which is not irresponsible for a fan to do it.
I mean, because fans are they do what they want
to do. But for me, the first thing I thought
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about were, Okay, this is a conversation that he may
obviously made public's he's going to do a presser with
his medical staff and medical team to talk about what's
going on. I do know he ended up going back
to his home for a time, and there were a
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lot of guys that were going to visit him. So
I would just say in terms of why, people like,
I don't think this is a moment in time to
take this topic and try to figure out why he
like the why of it all. I think I think
it's really one of those situations where it's just collect
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the information at face value, because it does seem to
have the elements of someone who has been battling whatever
it is he's battling to actually like stay alive. So
what what is the issue? Like, what is because I
(28:41):
know he had the stuff with his foot, but is
this relate? Is this related? That's what I'm saying. I don't,
I don't. I don't have that type of information. All
I'm saying is is that it's this is serious enough
in nature where again guys were going like Michael Irvin,
like Little Wayne and listen, they were documenting it, you know,
(29:05):
you know we Yeah, they were documenting it the people
that were going to see him. But people were actually
going to the house to see Dion Sanders. So I
would say the reason why I brought up the context
of people possibly thinking that he's trying to leverage his
health to stop coaching. I would say unequivocally, in my estimation,
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that's not what this is. I do not believe that
that's what this is. I do believe he is seriously
battling a health issue or health issues plural and to
the tune of him feeling a certain type of way
in terms of the things we just heard him say
in that sound bite, and it's more about what he's
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willing to disclose to the public, how much of what
he's dealing with, which by him saying that he's uncomfortable
with the idea that he had to do a will,
I think it gives you a little bit of context
if you if you're taking him at face value for
what he's saying, and in a situation like this there,
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I would never not take somebody who's who's clearly going
through health issues. I mean, you can look at the
fact that he lost toes and they had you know,
the way his leg looks now, He's clearly fighting through
health issues at times. So I just think it's too
real of a situation to actually be for me as
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as a media person to start trying to draw conclusions
as to is he trying to do this to not
coach anymore. I think it's more about looking at like
where he's at with his health, what he's what he's
comfortable with disclosing, and what happens next.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
You don't want to play the jump to conclusions board.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
Not for this one, I guess, not for I mean,
I did reach out to someone in the program and
I said, hey, like, what's going on?
Speaker 5 (31:05):
Is it's gonna be okay?
Speaker 6 (31:06):
And they basically just said to me, like he will
be good, Like he's going to be good. So that
was all I really got back. Obviously, they don't I
don't think anything specifically to leak out, not that i'd
say it anyway, it's someone saying that personal health information.
But I'm optimistic, and I do I have to ask
this question because I do feel like this is the time,
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a day and age we live in. I feel like
if it's not something serious, then that's going to create
an issue for people, like they're going to be like,
oh see, like they made a big deal about.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
It Just it's almost like I don't know how you
handle these sorts of situations, because it's tough. You're a
public figure, you're coaching a bunch of young men. You
don't want them to find out about something that you
don't you're not ready to prepare to talk to them about,
you know, which happens all the time in college football.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
And when you have something.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
Like this sale we're gonna have a press conference in
metal team, et cetera, there's a there's a level of
seriousness right There's it's like a very you know, sober
thing to hear when so I'm sorry, I starts talking
about preparing a will.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
But then we live in.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
This this heinous society where it depending on what it is,
it might not be serious enough, where people then start
attacking and throwing out those allegations like you just mentioned.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Like that's the tough thing about all this.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
We just had some really big celebrities pass away, like
some big, big, major ones, And I just think that
this is one of them type topics where you get
a little touch sensitive, you know, it's a touch sense
like you're you're me like, bro, I'm sitting there like
wondering if I'm dying.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Like stuff like that makes you like feel like damn, like.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Am I dying?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Like like you're not getting any younger, is what I'm
saying like, you're getting older, technant you're all dying exactly.
I mean, but I'm just saying, like, am I closer?
Like out close?
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Sami you know, said last week you're close than his
dang he he did sit on.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
I don't think so Jonas lives too safe. They're the
ones that he's a he's a vampire.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Yeah that's true.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yeah, I think the ones that play too safe, they
die quicker, they die off quicker.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
But forever.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Yes, Lee lived till he's like eighty years old.
Speaker 5 (33:23):
He's gonna be a liver transplant.
Speaker 11 (33:25):
You know.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
They did a comparison between Ozzy Osbourne and Hulk Hogan.
They were like, this guy did weightlifting, everything you could
possibly do under the son to be be in shape
and be strong and stuff like that, and Ozzy Osbourne
did the exact opposite. Who knows all the things that
he did, and they lived to basically be the same age.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
The moral of the story is live your life. I
don't know, I think Ozzie was older. Was he like
five years yeah? Yeah they yeah, so there you go.
And Hogan went through a ton of health issues.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I just like this these types of these types of deals.
I was just like, let's wait and see what he
has to say. There's no reason to kind of come
up with any conspiracy theories about it, like it doesn't
serve any purpose. But to the point that you are
making in terms of how society is and how they
handle things like this, in terms of the seriousness of
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nature or whatever it may be. We may never know
how serious in nature what he's dealing with is depending
on what they disclosed, you know, what they.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
Decide to talk about.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
But I think the reality of it is is that
it's serious enough where it's continuing to be something that
is discussed. And maybe it's because he misses he missed
time for the camps or whatever it may have been,
things that he you know, was supposed to do as
a coach, that he was at.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
His home instead of there.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
I don't know what made it more of a topic,
but I would say if if I'm seeing, it's been
made a topic because it's it has some seriousness in
nature to what it is that he has going on.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
So this season will be if I mean if he
coaches in the assumption is yes, will be the first
season he's.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Coached without coaching his kids at least one of them.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Look, man, if he decided later today to be like,
I don't have it, Like I just said, I'm not
gonna judge.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Like I stayed. I stayed.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
I stayed alive long enough to coach them into the league. Yeah.
I mean, maybe that's why he didn't take the job
in the league. I get it.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
It was such a hot topic that he would go
to the league and coach, and the fact that he
did not, and it seemed like he had an opportunity
to at least interview and see what was was possible.
It just seemed like that just died on the vine.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
And if maybe he's you know, gets through the process
and he gets to this point in the offseason and
he's like, look, man, I thought I was good to go.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
It just doesn't feel the same. And you're talking about
the feeling with his kids. I'm saying he might be
sitting here right now thinking to hisself health wise, I
just don't I don't feel like I want to do
it anymore. He might, I mean, why why wouldn't I
Why isn't that okay? Why is it? I don't like
(36:21):
if I lost two toes and like I had this
big whatever it is he's got going up his leg.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Whatever you call that, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
A scar.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Maybe I guess we call it a scar talking about
you didn't see like whatever surgery they had to do,
he's got up like bruh, Like it goes all the
way up his leg.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
You never seen it.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
You gotta look it up. It goes all the way.
It's not it's not like.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
You ever looked at.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
You always find a way to make it a joke though,
you're go ahead, give us some comic relief. No, I
just haven't looked at his legs in a while. You
want to lie on that. I wouldn't have looked at
his legs outside of them shown. I recall seeing a
post where he was in the Colorado UH training room.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
You saw it.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
It looks like some kind of graph, like skin graph
because of how big like whatever it is that they
what they had to do.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
It went all the way up his leg.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
And it's just going on right.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
So there could be again, he could be in a
place just maybe there's a there's no there's no hitting agenda,
there's there's no conspiracy theories. The man just a fighting
health issues and they're serious enough where he's in flux.
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He's not decided on if he's going to play or
if he's going to coach or not. I mean, I
think that that's just that face value and if he's
going to be good, and that's the report that's coming out.
I guess we're going to hear what he has to
say what is the team, But I just wish them well,
Like at the end of all of it, the conclusion
of it is just wish them well.
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Speaker 2 (39:11):
These might smell a little fun incredible, but they're still good.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
Time to find out what's left.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
It's Lee's all right, justin Cooper, what do we got?
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 11 (39:25):
So earlier in the show we heard we heard Brady's
kind of review of Happy Gilmore too, and so I'm
looking forward to, uh, the next review of the next
sports movie sequel. We've got bend It like Beckham sequel
in the works. Lorraine is excited.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
There was a first one.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Yeah, no kid even heard of bend It like Beckham.
That we can bend the ball into the net. Guys, see, yes, yes,
it's a girl movie.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (39:57):
Sorry, it starred Kira Knightley and what I'm out.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
I'm so confused. So this isn't about David Beckham.
Speaker 4 (40:07):
She can bend it like Beckham.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
Oh, now I get the title. Okay, yes, I must.
I must have missed this one.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Yeah, I thought it was about David Beckham. Anyway, either way.
Speaker 5 (40:17):
I'm out.
Speaker 11 (40:19):
Well, everybody from the original cast from the movie in
two thousand and three. It was a hit movie. They're
all coming back. Well, they think they're going to come back.
They have to approve the script first.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
It was a hit movie.
Speaker 11 (40:31):
Yeah, seventy six million on a budget of six million.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
Jesus, good for them.
Speaker 9 (40:40):
Bye.